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Drawing a Line
Author: BobR    Date: 03/28/2008 12:26:12

It's been hard to escape all of the Clinton -vs- Obama hype lately. Hillary's underhanded tactics are given all of the proper outrage - repeatedly... The video of Rev. Wright is discussed ad nauseum. Everyone keeps wondering aloud if all of this will destroy the Democratic party. There certainly seem to be a fair number of Democrats that say they'll vote for McCain if their desired candidate is not the one nominated.

Oh really?... Are you sure?.... Perhaps it's time to really take a close look at McCain and what we'll be getting if he's elected this fall.

WAR: While Clinton and Obama snipe over who was against what when and who will get out sooner, McCain wants permanent bases in Iraq, and envisions us staying there for another 100 years to "get the job done" (whatever THAT means). He's the one that sang "Bomb, Bomb Iran" (badly, to the tune of the Beach Boys "Barbara Ann"), and would be likely to do so if he felt inclined. For that matter, he doesn't seem to understand the difference between Shia and Sunni muslims, recently repeating several times that Shiite Iran was helping Sunni al-Qaeda.

ECONOMICS: McCain has said himself that he really doesn't understand economics. His economic plan is to essentially do nothing. Our economy is teetering on the brink of collapse - do we really want someone in charge that doesn't understand the complexities of it? On top of this, he is on the Senate Committee on Commerce, where he is apparently in over his head and doesn't even realize it.

GOVERNMENT INTEGRITY: With corporatism becoming impossible to deny, we really need a president who will roll back the business-first/citizen-second mindset in DC. Instead, McCain seems to be rolling in the fascism like a dog rolling in something stinky he found in the woods. Most of the top positions in his campaign staff are current or former lobbyists. When lobbyists help politicians write laws and policies, who do you think will be favored? McCain also broke the very campaign finance law that he helped write and bears his name (the McCain/Feingold bill).

SCOTUS: Several of the more "liberal" justices on the Supreme Court are getting to the age where they either should retire or they will die in office. Since the president at the time will be the one nominating the replacement, we REALLY need that someone to be a bit more liberal than John McCain. That is - if we value our personal liberties, and want the little guy (us) to be protected from the big guy (government and corporations).

HEALTH: Some readers may be too young to remember Reagan. Reagan was old. He fell asleep in cabinet meetings. He couldn't remember things (or at least pretended not to). McCain is old too. He is already showing signs that he is not up for the rigors of the job, and inaugaration day is still just under a year away. Do we really want someone mentally feeble in the White House? Haven't we had enough of that for 8 years already?

BUSH - 4 MORE YEARS: Ultimately, McCain has embraced Bush and vows to continue Bush's legacy. With McCain succeeding Bush, we will get 4 more years of costly immoral military entanglements, 4 more years of economic malaise, 4 more years of corporate-controlled government, and possibly 4 more years of a confused White House controlled by the vice President.

Is it worth all that to "punish" the Democratic party for not nominating the candidate you desire? Where do you draw the line?

 

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Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 12:43:32




FRISTY PANTS!!!







Had to take the lady friend to the airport for a 6 a.m. flight! :thud:



Great blog Bobber!

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 12:44:52
:: taps vein ::

:: injects coffee IV ::

Comment by m-hadley on 03/28/2008 12:50:03
Thank you BobR,

For injecting a skosh reality into the debacle that has become the Democratic primary. We cannot afford in so many ways to have a President McCain. We must work together to elect a Democrat to the White House - as it is we are looking at 20 - 30 year time frame to repair the damage done by Bush/Cheney. :nervous:

Good Mornin' Everyone!

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:09:10
something tells me larry wouldn't mind if Momma snapped his braces!

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:11:08
Good Morning!



this medicine makes me a little burpy...

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:11:35
i love when jim randomly busts into song.





Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:16:28
How ya feelin' Glandy????

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:28:17
Love this song!







Yael Naim

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:41:58
Quote by starling310:

How ya feelin' Glandy????
:rofl:





I think the swelling has gone down a little tiny bit...



Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/28/2008 13:42:26
Good morning, bloggers!



I have a rare morning where I am not substitute teaching or running errands. So, I thought I would wish everyone a good morning and an early good weekend





The UNN Daily Headlines are up, if you want to take a look.



BobR, I agree that either Clinton or Obama would be better than McCain. So, for those who wish to sit this one out or vote for McCain, do you want to live with the consequences of a McCain presidency - including many more dead American troops?

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:43:52
so how long is the lady friend away?

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:44:29
Good Morning Will!!!





Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:48:37
:banana: Get down on it! :banana:

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:51:36
Am I danicng all alone here?

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:52:25
New hampshire not only goes second, some of the polls open up at 12:01





Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:54:15
Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:55:01
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

How ya feelin' Glandy????
:rofl:





I think the swelling has gone down a little tiny bit...





That's good! Glad to hear it. You've got to be good by D.C. missy.

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 13:55:40
Quote by Raine:

so how long is the lady friend away?




Just until Tuesday night. . . visiting her Dad in Seattle.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:55:47
Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:57:24
GAH! I hate hearing that people are either not going to vote of Vote for MCCain can do this. There is NO such thing as a *protest* vote in the GE.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 13:59:34
Quote by Raine:

Rudy to Run for Gov???
oh and the interesting part about this?



In the latest twist in New York politics, Rudy Giuliani is eyeing a run for governor in a special election this fall should Gov. Paterson be forced to resign, sources say.
What a vulture.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/28/2008 14:00:48
Thanks for the warm welcome!



More on McCain:



Bipartisan Team Says McCain Natural Born. As some of you may know, he was born in the Panama Canal zone.



By the way, you might like to read Obama's Sweeping Foreign Policy Critique.





Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:07:36
Quote by Grumpyman:

Had to re register to log on what is going on!


OH dear!!!



When bobber get's into the office I will see if he can figure it out!



:hug:

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:08:51
Quote by Grumpyman:

Quote by Grumpyman:

Had to re register to log on what is going on!


And as you see it is NOT my name!
This happened to Mala a couple of weeks ago. Harumph....



We will get you back in order.



Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:12:36
Praise Cheesus!

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 14:12:38
I am talking to my lady friend ( "MLF" ) on the phone. . . she is delayed in DC.

Maybe if they hold her there long enough, she can come to the meetup on the 26th.



She says "hi" to da blog!!!

Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:13:04
Good morning folks.



Working until 2 AM really crimps my ability to blog in the mornings.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:15:00
Those sheets definatly have a market...

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:16:33
:rofl: Jim LOUISE Ward!!!

:clown: with the :modbat:

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:17:14
Quote by Grumpyman:

I'm pretty sure I will not be able to make the meet up.



Work has exploded!

3 people have left, the call schedule has to be re done and vacations have been canceled. I have been so busy that I have barely had time to breath!



That sorta sux...



Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:17:40
Quote by Grumpyman:

I'm pretty sure I will not be able to make the meet up.



Work has exploded!

3 people have left, the call schedule has to be re done and vacations have been canceled. I have been so busy that I have barely had time to breath!





So sorry to hear that. We'll have to have a toast in your honor.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:17:45
Quote by starling310:

I am talking to my lady friend ( "MLF" ) on the phone. . . she is delayed in DC.

Maybe if they hold her there long enough, she can come to the meetup on the 26th.



She says "hi" to da blog!!!
back at her!!!



Comment by BobR on 03/28/2008 14:19:38
morning, folks... :coffee:

Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:20:09
Good morning BobR.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:20:32
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Grumpyman:

I'm pretty sure I will not be able to make the meet up.



Work has exploded!

3 people have left, the call schedule has to be re done and vacations have been canceled. I have been so busy that I have barely had time to breath!





So sorry to hear that. We'll have to have a toast in your honor.
we will betaosting everything in sight!



But especially our blog friends...



Comment by BobR on 03/28/2008 14:21:22
Quote by Grumpyman:

Had to re register to log on what is going on!


I just changed your password to "password"... try logging in again (and then change your password to something else). Remember that passwords are case-sensitive.

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:21:26
Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 14:22:21
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I am talking to my lady friend ( "MLF" ) on the phone. . . she is delayed in DC.

Maybe if they hold her there long enough, she can come to the meetup on the 26th.



She says "hi" to da blog!!!
back at her!!!





:banana: she liked the idea of the flashing boobs!

Comment by BobR on 03/28/2008 14:22:24
Quote by Grumpyman:

I'm pretty sure I will not be able to make the meet up.



Work has exploded!

3 people have left, the call schedule has to be re done and vacations have been canceled. I have been so busy that I have barely had time to breath!



uh -oh... I think Stan was counting on splitting the cost of the room.

Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:22:38
Ass androids.

Comment by starling310 on 03/28/2008 14:22:53
Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:24:55
Condi: the USA has a birth defect regarding Race:Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.



"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."



As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that."



"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said.

[...]

Miss Rice declined to comment on the campaign, saying only that it was "important" that Mr. Obama "gave it for a whole host of reasons."







Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:26:41
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Grumpyman:

I'm pretty sure I will not be able to make the meet up.



Work has exploded!

3 people have left, the call schedule has to be re done and vacations have been canceled. I have been so busy that I have barely had time to breath!



uh -oh... I think Stan was counting on splitting the cost of the room.
Yeah...







Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:27:05
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I am talking to my lady friend ( "MLF" ) on the phone. . . she is delayed in DC.

Maybe if they hold her there long enough, she can come to the meetup on the 26th.



She says "hi" to da blog!!!
back at her!!!





:banana: she liked the idea of the flashing boobs!






Who doesn't? :P

Comment by BobR on 03/28/2008 14:27:11
Quote by Grumpyman:



I can still cover some of the cost for him. If I need to.



(though not half seeing as I may not make it.) have him give me call if he needs me to.


It sucks you're not going to be able to make it. I was looking forward to it.



Maybe Mondo would want to share a room...

Comment by BobR on 03/28/2008 14:29:13
Quote by livingonli:

Ass androids.


Androids Gone Wild.... Ass-man edition

Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:31:15
Quote by Raine:

Condi: the USA has a birth defect regarding Race:Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.



"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."



As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that."



"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said.

[...]

Miss Rice declined to comment on the campaign, saying only that it was "important" that Mr. Obama "gave it for a whole host of reasons."









She has said in the past that she actually is a supporter of affirmative action like Colin Powell so this is one (and probably the only issue) that she's not down with the neo-cons on.



There is a floater of her being McCain's running mate. If she were the veep nominee, that would secure the ticket as a continuation of the Bush policies but the Republican racists would probably stay home (which would help the Democratic nominee).

Comment by Raine on 03/28/2008 14:31:33
Gland update:



I have nearly perfected my john McCain voice.... My Firends

Comment by Grumpymann on 03/28/2008 14:32:32
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Grumpyman:



I can still cover some of the cost for him. If I need to.



(though not half seeing as I may not make it.) have him give me call if he needs me to.


It sucks you're not going to be able to make it. I was looking forward to it.



Maybe Mondo would want to share a room...




Think how I feel.....



I want to try a Raintini!

Meet my Peeps.

Relax and have some fun!

Now I get to work......



All this week I was in Binghamton NY.

it was better than driving 3 hours, I was staying in a hotel. And I hate it!

Comment by livingonli on 03/28/2008 14:33:45