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Author: TriSec    Date: 04/29/2008 10:57:24

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,868th day in Iraq.

We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4056
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3917
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3595
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3197
Since Election (1/31/05): 2619

Other Coalition Troops: 309
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 494


We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 515, 290, 925, 000 .00



I've got an interesting first-hand account of Baghdad that comes to us via our friends at IAVA. I'm skipping their website in favor of the original source today, I'm sure Paul won't mind. In any case, New York artist Steve Mumford was originally embedded with the troops in 2003...he's been back several times since.

http://images.artnet.com/images_US/magazine/features/mumford/mumford4-21-08-2.jpg


http://images.artnet.com/images_US/magazine/features/mumford/mumford4-21-08-8.jpg




I am back in Iraq for part of April and May to continue recording the war through drawing. I’m going to Mosul, a city in northern Iraq, to visit the U. S. military’s COPs, or Combat Outposts, which have been a key part of the tactics of the surge: platoon-sized units living within the cities, backing up and working closely with Iraqi army and police. The tedious part is getting there.

At Kuwaiti customs I get a disconcerting dose of Middle Eastern bureaucracy: what should be a 20-minute job of stamping passports with visas yawns into a chasm of several hours, while the half dozen young Kuwaiti officials stare distractedly at their cell phones, pretend to take notes, and occasionally break into random conversation with one another. The stack of passports sits, barely moving. Children whine while mothers attend to them, and men look hopelessly at nothing, waiting for an official to contemptuously announce a name in a barely audible voice.

At Camp Ali al-Salem in Kuwait I gather my equipment for a nighttime flight to Baghdad in one of the cavernous halls where soldiers wait for planes to Iraq and Afghanistan. Whole companies of soldiers are sprawled out on the ground surrounded by their gear, forming vast landscapes of packs and bodies, everything covered in digital gray-green cammo. Platoons form lines in front of signs with destinations printed in large letters; the eerie light casts dramatic shadows. Despite my tiredness I wish that I could draw these scenes, but I’ve been told unequivocally that it’s impossible. I read, suck on Halls cough drops, and wait.

When I finally arrive in the Green Zone, nothing looks much different. Over the last week rockets and mortars have been falling thick and fast, mostly from Sadr City, and everyone seems to have stories to tell. Several people died, including a colonel who was out jogging one morning. It’s quiet now, with only one air raid siren all day.

There’s a lot more graffiti in the bathrooms and port-a-johns than before, but it doesn’t differ much from graffiti in any public restroom. With one exception: generations of Chuck Norris jokes, counter-jokes and commentary. Some notable examples:

Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas.

Chuck Norris has a nightlight. Not because he’s afraid of the dark but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris doesn’t read. He just stares at a book until it tells him what he wants to know.

When Chuck Norris pees he clogs the toilet.

The Peruvian guards manning the checkpoints are an enthusiastic audience while I’m drawing and I chat with them in my frayed Spanish. A young woman walks up speaking Spanish and I ask her if she’s from Peru.

"Oh no -- I’m Iraqi, from up North, near Mosul." I attempt to segue to the time of the Moors, when Spaniards mixed with Arabs but my Spanish isn’t nearly up to the task; she interrupts, "These Peruvian guys are too ugly -- only the women are good looking!" The guards hoot with delight.

I could mistake some of the Peruvians for Arabs, although others have distinctly Incan features. They have an easy rapport with the Iraqi translators, but one of the soldiers tells me they’re very racist towards the Nigerian soldiers stationed here. A Peruvian who has been here three years says none of his countrymen have been killed. "We say it’s because he’s [pointing towards the sky] a Latino!"

Much more at the link...




Since diplomacy in the Middle East is also a casualty of this war, it's fallen to Tufts University (Massachusetts) and the Crisis Management Initiative (Finland) to attempt to re-start the process. They've been having meetings in Helsinki with the factions in Iraq. There's no word if "President" Bush has denounced the process, or if Hannity or Rush have called for anyone's passports to be suspended...

WASHINGTON - After a weekend of closed-door negotiations in Helsinki, a group of rival members of Iraq's parliament and tribal leaders are set to announce today that they will gather in Baghdad for the first time for a further round of talks that they hope will lay the foundation for peace in their troubled country.

"Progress has been made," Padraig O'Malley, the UMass-Boston professor and veteran peace activist who organized the meeting, said in a phone interview from the Finnish capital.

O'Malley said the participants agreed upon all but three of 16 broad principles, which he hopes the Iraqi Parliament will eventually endorse, laying the framework for negotiations to reconcile Iraq's warring parties and militias. He said the participants hoped that that their talks would lead to a detailed agreement on core issues that have plagued Iraq, including disarming militias associated with political parties, protecting the rights of minorities, and reducing corruption in government.

So far, the participants have declined to make details of their discussions public to avoid creating too much debate and acrimony in Iraq, O'Malley said. They are planning to announce their progress at a press conference at the Helsinki airport today before returning to Iraq.

The first meeting organized by O'Malley, held in September of 2007 at an undisclosed location in Helsinki, was kept secret because of security concerns and out of a desire to have participants freely discuss their views without the scrutiny of the media.

Participants at the weekend meeting included Hadi al-Amiri, head of the Badr Organization, a Shi'ite group considered the armed wing of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, one of the most powerful Shi'ite parties, as well as Fouad Massom, a Kurdish member of the Iraqi Parliament's constitutional review committee, and Usama al-Tikrit, the leader of the Sunni-led Iraqi Islamic party and a former classmate of Saddam Hussein.

Four tribal sheiks - two Sunni and two Shi'ite - also attended.

One notable absence, however, was that of the representative from the movement loyal to cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. He had been scheduled to attend but called at the last minute to say he was unable to make the flight. As part of a crackdown ordered by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki of Iraq, supporters of Sadr have been fighting US and Iraqi forces in Sadr City, his Baghdad stronghold, in a battle that has cost dozens of lives.

The weekend's Helsinki meeting was an exercise in unconventional diplomacy. Up until now, most of the reconciliation efforts have been organized by the Arab League, the US State Department, or the Iraqi government. This meeting was organized by O'Malley, the Institute of Global Leadership at Tufts, and the Crisis Management Initiative, a Finnish nongovernmental organization.

Continued...



Lastly this morning...perhaps you've seen this ad recently? (Thanks, Raine!)

Well, guess who doesn't like it?

The ad that the Democratic Party is airing about Sen. John McCain -- picturing him mouthing words about 100 years of U.S. troop deployment in Iraq -- is not only misleading, according to lawyers for the Republican National Committee, but also illegal.

The DNC ad pictures McCain responding to a question at a town-hall styled forum in January, where he was asked how long U.S. troops might be committed to Iraq. "Maybe 100.... that'd be fine with me,'' replies McCain, who maintains that he was speaking of a non-combatant role, simliar to the long post-war deployments of U.S. forces in Germany following World War II and in South Korea. The ad repeats those 100-year remarks with overlays of script: "Five years... $500 billion... over 4,000 dead.''

"As a legal matter,'' RNC chairman Mike Duncan said today, this is a "maliciously false'' campaign ad. "The advertisement in question falsely and maliciously'' quotes Sen. McCain as saying that extending the war in Iraq for 100 years would be fine with him, and places it in a context of images of combat. "Clearly this ad is just another attempt by the DNC to mischaracterize Sen. McCain's statements.''

Sean Cairncross, general counsel for the RNC, said that McCain had responded to a question about how long the U.S..might be in Iraq. He noted that McCain's comment about 100 years included a caveat that "as long as Americans are not being injured... harmed or killed.... It's fine with me.''

The RNC, calling on cable news networks and television stations to refrain from airing the ad, maintains that a party does not have the independent right to air an ad that a candidate has, and that it becomes the obligation of networks and stations to monitor the truthfulness of ads The party stopped short of threatening legal action, however.

The RNC also accuses the DNC of making an illegal coordinated contribution to the the Democratic candidates with this ad, but maintains that the main legal problem with the ad involves its willful misrepresentation of McCain. "This is a complaint about the facts that are being misrepresented in this ad,'' Cairncross said in a conference call with reporters. "Based on this being a deliberate falsehood. We are saying to the stations, 'You have an obligation.'''

Stay tuned for a DNC reply.


Well, the DNC must have hit awful close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, eh?


 

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Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 11:40:08
Mornin' TriSec,

Great post - have I mentioned that I hate, loathe, despise this f*ckin' war? We need to come home and deal with issues large and small here on the homefront. End the War(s) NOW Happy Tuesday everybody :)

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 11:59:19
:rofl: :rofl:



................. *cough, cough* *snort*



Ahhhhh, sorry, I'm laughing over the "ad is misleading and maybe even illegal..." Oh, NOOO, are the Rapublicans upset? Aw. Too bad.



Isn't it funny that they complain over words said by their candidate, but not so much when words by a Rev. are tied to our candidate. Hmmm. Karma. I think this should be the DNC's reply:





Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 12:28:02
Velveeta! You took the words out of my mouth. When I read that story I thought of this: RNC -------> :cry:



PUHlease RNC! Would you like me to draft a list of all the "potentially illegal" or misleading statements ever made from your camp!



:grumble:



Oof...I am in a huff early this morning. F*ckers.

Comment by right wing hater on 04/29/2008 12:42:01
Good Morning everyone!



Daily Reading posted to News of Day



Highlights - Live Earth is back, Oct 5th

Delegate Calculator: HRC would need 69% of remaining votes in each primary to win (ie, winged monkeys more likely)

Study: Con-servatives tuned out everything except Fox from 1998-2006 (shocker!)

Krugman on McCain = permanent GWBush

Michael Moore on CNN (Larry King) this Wed (will talk about his endorsement of Obama)

GWBush has 265 days left....

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:08:27
Quote by velveeta jones:

:rofl: :rofl:



................. *cough, cough* *snort*



Ahhhhh, sorry, I'm laughing over the "ad is misleading and maybe even illegal..." Oh, NOOO, are the Rapublicans upset? Aw. Too bad.



Isn't it funny that they complain over words said by their candidate, but not so much when words by a Rev. are tied to our candidate. Hmmm. Karma. I think this should be the DNC's reply:







Mornin' Velveeta & Starling,

I need more caffiene I smell the RNC in just about everything these days (even infiltrating the Hillary camp - )

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:14:00
good morning!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:16:44
Just in time for indiana... I am sure that is QUITE a coincidence, huh?

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:17:28
Love the new Lying Sack of Crap version :)

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:18:29
BTB, I'm home for a few hours this morning - so I'm bi-blogging away :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:22:56
Quote by right wing hater:

Good Morning everyone!



Daily Reading posted to News of Day



Highlights - Live Earth is back, Oct 5th

Delegate Calculator: HRC would need 69% of remaining votes in each primary to win (ie, winged monkeys more likely)

Study: Con-servatives tuned out everything except Fox from 1998-2006 (shocker!)

Krugman on McCain = permanent GWBush

Michael Moore on CNN (Larry King) this Wed (will talk about his endorsement of Obama)

GWBush has 265 days left....
Live Earth is coming back! That is wonderful news!!!



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:27:06
Quote by m-hadley:

BTB, I'm home for a few hours this morning - so I'm bi-blogging away :D

Cheers,

mfaye
you are off the hook !

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:28:56
I think I am just gonna stick my head in mud until this is over at this point.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:31:11
Pocketbooks? the president is going to talk about pocketbooks this morning???

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:33:06
Raine and Others,

I got my photos back last night - a few winners in the bunch - I'll send them along to BobR so he can post them with the others :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:36:09
Faye, was I wrong? My eyes were closed every time, right?







Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:36:34
hi stan.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:37:09
I love Arianna! :swoon:

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:37:15
Did Arianna just drop an explitive?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:37:59
Quote by starling310:

hi stan.
:rofl:



Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:39:56
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

hi stan.
:rofl:





;)

now that i know he's "out there" . . .

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 13:40:08
Good morning everyone.



So, what's up gang?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:40:10
Quote by starling310:

Did Arianna just drop an explitive?
That time delay can be quite a useful tool!



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 13:41:50
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

hi stan.
:rofl:





;)

now that i know he's "out there" . . .


You are just trying to get him to post, aren't you?

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:46:10
Chris! With the Icicle Works bump!

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:47:44
Quote by starling310:

Faye, was I wrong? My eyes were closed every time, right?









No, my darling Starling,

I have several photos of your bright eyes wide open I will send them along to BobR, so he can post them with the rest of the shots - good times :)

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 13:49:33


He's still trying to pull that shit. I guess the little dictator has never heard of "checks and balances",

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 13:50:05
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

Faye, was I wrong? My eyes were closed every time, right?









No, my darling Starling,

I have several photos of your bright eyes wide open I will send them along to BobR, so he can post them with the rest of the shots - good times :)

Cheers,

mfaye


You have any pictures of me?

Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 13:54:17
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

Faye, was I wrong? My eyes were closed every time, right?









No, my darling Starling,

I have several photos of your bright eyes wide open I will send them along to BobR, so he can post them with the rest of the shots - good times :)

Cheers,

mfaye


You have any pictures of me?




Yes Liv,

At least two good ones :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 13:58:14
Last night my father brought up th e Rev thing, he said the usual talking point about how could it be possibnle that the 20 years at the church blah blah...



I asked my father if my liberal friends should judge me becuase of who he is. He started to balk, and I reminded him that he says a lot of nasty things, that I do not believe in and I still care ad love him. I told him that if he really believed that bs about obama and his pastor, that would mean that I should not associate with him, lest my friends think I am just like him.





Dad changed the subject.

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 13:59:01
:yawn:



hard to keep eyes open. . . lady friend snoozing next to me. . . :thud:

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 14:00:13
Good job Raine. . . the media may never successfully make that point, but it's really important that we make that point in our own lives. . . reach the people you can.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:01:25
:yawn: Morning



Man, still trying to recover some sleep.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 14:02:34
Good morning Mala. Sounds like you feel the same way I do.



And tonight I go back to work. Vacation goes much too fast.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:04:06
Okay something I noticed about the housing thing. I know alot of people who can't sell are trying to rent. However they can't even find people to rent a house. I'm starting to wonder if theres not something more going on or if I'm just looking at it in an odd way.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:05:23
HEy, Where has ShaneO been ?





Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:08:14
Hey! I just found out that a few of you have facebook accounts............. You'll be getting an invite from me (my real name - not as Velveeta). :D



I had forgotten that I'd signed up for that silly Facebook, until I got an email recently from an old school chum! Pretty cool!



(Otherwise, I'm not much into these online communities like FB and Myspace).

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:08:49
Ok, this is just wierd...



A Los Angeles porn company is planning to release a film supposedly showing guitar legend Jimi Hendrix having sex with two women, according to a report in the New York Times on Tuesday.



According to Vivid Entertainment, the film, which has no audio, allegedly shows Hendrix having sex with two women in a dimly-lit bedroom, the Times reports.



Vivid, which has also released sex tapes featuring Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee and Kim Kardashian, among others, says that the tape is authentic, and will be offered for sale in stores and for download Online, according to the Times report.

===================================================





Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:10:17
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning Mala. Sounds like you feel the same way I do.



And tonight I go back to work. Vacation goes much too fast.






I like to call it vacation lag.



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 14:10:51
Quote by Raine:

HEy, Where has ShaneO been ?





He's posted at the SMS live blog. Maybe he's just been busy building his drops.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:12:17
I added y'all to my face book!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:12:36
Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey! I just found out that a few of you have facebook accounts............. You'll be getting an invite from me (my real name - not as Velveeta). :D



I had forgotten that I'd signed up for that silly Facebook, until I got an email recently from an old school chum! Pretty cool!



(Otherwise, I'm not much into these online communities like FB and Myspace).






I just signed up for facebook and livejournal yesterday since so many others did. Plus I already had my myspace account.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:13:37
I am getting car sick from the sound drops...

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:14:30
Entitys can haunt people instead of places. (yes I believe in the paranormal to some extent)

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:16:30
Quote by Raine:

Ok, this is just wierd...



A Los Angeles porn company is planning to release a film supposedly showing guitar legend Jimi Hendrix having sex with two women, according to a report in the New York Times on Tuesday.



According to Vivid Entertainment, the film, which has no audio, allegedly shows Hendrix having sex with two women in a dimly-lit bedroom, the Times reports.



Vivid, which has also released sex tapes featuring Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee and Kim Kardashian, among others, says that the tape is authentic, and will be offered for sale in stores and for download Online, according to the Times report.

===================================================





:yawn:



I'm waiting for Miley Cyrus................



:lol:



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 14:17:37
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey! I just found out that a few of you have facebook accounts............. You'll be getting an invite from me (my real name - not as Velveeta). :D



I had forgotten that I'd signed up for that silly Facebook, until I got an email recently from an old school chum! Pretty cool!



(Otherwise, I'm not much into these online communities like FB and Myspace).






I just signed up for facebook and livejournal yesterday since so many others did. Plus I already had my myspace account.




I guess it's time for me to sign-up for these things with everyone else on them. I know mgm also has a facebook page.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:17:55
Quote by velveeta jones:



:yawn:



I'm waiting for Miley Cryus................



:lol:







I would do ANYTHING for the honour of being photographed by Annie. That story is so dumb.



Her parents were on set the whole time.



Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:24:29
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:



:yawn:



I'm waiting for Miley Cryus................



:lol:







I would do ANYTHING for the honour of being photographed by Annie. That story is so dumb.



Her parents were on set the whole time.



Totally stupid!! I think Disney put the pressure on her, they don't want her to turn into another Lindsey Lohan.



Too late......... she's on the way!!



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 14:29:09
So, smart women have trouble with orgasms. I guess I just have to try harder.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:35:48
I hate that **man's voice.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:36:03
Quote by Raine:

I added y'all to my face book!




Yes, that was QUICK!! Both you and Mala added me right away!! Now that's what I call mutli-tasking...........



:P



Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 14:38:20
good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:39:05
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

I added y'all to my face book!




Yes, that was QUICK!! Both you and Mala added me right away!! Now that's what I call mutli-tasking...........



:P

That is about all I can figure out how to do there!



Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 14:39:28
Quote by m-hadley:





No, my darling Starling,

I have several photos of your bright eyes wide open I will send them along to BobR, so he can post them with the rest of the shots - good times :)

Cheers,

mfaye


I emailed the login and password so you can add them yourself...

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:40:43
Quote by jd_in_ny:

good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in


woohoo! I'll take all the friends I can get!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:40:50
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

I added y'all to my face book!




Yes, that was QUICK!! Both you and Mala added me right away!! Now that's what I call mutli-tasking...........



:P







You should see my work screen, I have 3-4 internet windows open, work email, excel and word all open at the same time. I always have to be prepared for someone who comes in and says - "can you ________?" or "do you have _______?"



Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 14:41:04
oh yeah, and Morning Folks.... :coffee:

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:42:11
Quote by jd_in_ny:

good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in


I'll look fer ya. I only have vague clues............ but I'll look.............. Hmmm, I wonder if your in the city?



Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 14:42:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in


woohoo! I'll take all the friends I can get!






Me Too! :D

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 14:44:37
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in


I'll look fer ya. I only have vague clues............ but I'll look.............. Hmmm, I wonder if your in the city?



hmmm... I don't know how high my security settings are... my name is Janna, though, and I'm on the Rochester network

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:47:54
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

good morning folks!

I have a facebook account, too, if I can join in


I'll look fer ya. I only have vague clues............ but I'll look.............. Hmmm, I wonder if your in the city?



hmmm... I don't know how high my security settings are... my name is Janna, though, and I'm on the Rochester network


Hey, that's helpful. Be back.



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:49:31
B*sh sounds screachy and hysterical.

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 14:51:09
This caller sounds like she just got done jogging...

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 14:53:45
JD, I've come up with 6 Janna's! Are you wearing a wedding gown? or is your photo a question mark?

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 14:57:24
hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 14:57:40
SCOTUS and DEMS elected to congress are VERY important... HOWEVER...



This country needs a collective change in consciousness... I think many people are tired of Bush Clinton Bush Clinton.



McCAin is nothing more than a Bush.





Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:00:44
Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)




I found 2 Janna' with GWU



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:01:57
B*sh doesn't care about the average person.



Kanye said it best... George Bush doesn't care about black people...



well guess what? we are all black people in George B*sh's world.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:02:52
Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine Corleone in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:03:17
Quote by Raine:

SCOTUS and DEMS elected to congress are VERY important... HOWEVER...



This country needs a collective change in consciousness... I think many people are tired of Bush Clinton Bush Clinton.



McCAin is nothing more than a Bush.





I'll second that. We don't need dynasties. We have had 20 years with just two families in the White House.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 15:03:36
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?



heh - that would probably be simpler, yes?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:03:41
JD, Tell me when you have me, and I will delete that post....

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:03:46
Yes, Raine is brave enough, or crazy enough, to use her real name!!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:04:46
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine ***** **** in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?



heh - that would probably be simpler, yes?
2 hours...





That was our running joke the whole weekend regarding making a decision... it would take 2 hours.



(hi stan! :boobs2:)



Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 15:04:53
Quote by Raine:

JD, Tell me when you have me, and I will delete that post....


quick - delete! gotcha.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:05:57
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine ************* in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?



heh - that would probably be simpler, yes?










Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:08:00
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine ************* in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?



heh - that would probably be simpler, yes?












name redacted!



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:09:19
Have all the Headline News anchors been brainwashed by Glenn Beck?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:11:19
Shane-O!!! That Rocked!





Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:12:07
JD has been Added!

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:12:49
Got ya JD!! :banana:

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 15:12:55
Yay!

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:13:55
Gilligan Bush is holding a press conference. I'm trying to make sense of what the f*ck he's saying.



:wacko:

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:14:15
Quote by livingonli:

Have all the Headline News anchors been brainwashed by Glenn Beck?


YES.





Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:14:38
:unsure: BobR is NOT going to be happy with this story!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:14:55
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:15:20
I love :foil:'s Connery!

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 15:15:22
Friends! I feel so validated.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:15:52
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Yay!


Oh yeah, I should have warned you that Velveeta is probably on some terror watch list. And now you're associated with me.



Welcome. :D

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:16:01
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Friends! I feel so validated.
me too!!!



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:16:51
When I was in college, 80% of the guys at my college radio station wanted to nail Suzanne Hoffs. Although, I felt Michael Steele was pretty hot as well.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:17:21
Quote by velveeta jones:

Yes, Raine is brave enough, or crazy enough, to use her real name!!


Both... you have to be crazy to be brave these days!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:19:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

Friends! I feel so validated.
me too!!!





:hug:



Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 15:19:47
Quote by Raine:

:unsure: BobR is NOT going to be happy with this story!


I am cancelling my Whisky magazine subscription!!



oh wait...

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:20:17
ONLY whisky can come from Scotland. the rest is WhiskEy. this is a global tradedy.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:20:21
So, is every Mel Brooks film destined to be a Broadway musical now?



Can't wait for "SpaceBalls: The Musical".

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:21:19
Quote by livingonli:

So, is every Mel Brooks film destined to be a Broadway musical now?



Can't wait for "SpaceBalls: The Musical".


Today, April 29, 2008... Liv made a snark...





Remember this... when the musical debuts, we can say we heard it here first.

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 15:21:49
Quote by livingonli:

When I was in college, 80% of the guys at my college radio station wanted to nail Suzanne Hoffs. Although, I felt Michael Steele was pretty hot as well.


She got better with age. We actually ran into her at a bookstore in LA a few years after The Bangles broke up. She was surprised that we recognized her (or cared).

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:26:36
I feel a little bad for the CNN reporter.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:28:42
HEY! Newt is on the VIEW!! Whoopie asking him about Obama and putting him on the spot.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:28:56
the Gay Parade?

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:30:14
Quote by velveeta jones:

HEY! Newt is on the VIEW!! Whoopie asking him about Obama and putting him on the spot.


He's also supposed to be on The Daily Show tonight, frankly.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:34:39
Quote by wickedpam:

the Gay Parade?


It's a Hollywood thing.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:34:52
<-------- NEW POLL!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:38:26
Dunno if Mondo mentioned it. but yesterday, we went to lunch... Bobr had a bottle of beer from Our local beer brewer, Sweetwater brewery... he had something called Georgia Brown... On the label it said,



Smoother than a Bill Clinton apology..







:rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:39:26
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

the Gay Parade?


It's a Hollywood thing.






Yes but is it different then a Gay Pride Parade?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:40:02
DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 15:41:14
oh gawd - this caller - GET TO IT ALREADY!!

Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/29/2008 15:41:30
oh my god.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:41:31
WOW.. the SMS show is the new American Idiocracy! :rofl:

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 15:42:12
Quote by wickedpam:







Yes but is it different then a Gay Pride Parade?


Yes.



More gay.

Less pride.







:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:42:15
Quote by BobR:

oh gawd - this caller - GET TO IT ALREADY!!


ok, I need some help... OK. OK. ok.. I need some help. OK... :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 15:44:15
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:







Yes but is it different then a Gay Pride Parade?


Yes.



More gay.

Less pride.







:rofl:




:rofl:



Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:44:48
Faye, just added you to my facebook.



Geez, I've ignored that thing pretty much, up until today! :lol:

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:45:12
Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:45:36
Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?




Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:46:07
Marc Maron is such a hippy.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 15:46:41
Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.



:lol: This sounds like some of those "Chuck Norris" things!



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:48:30
OK Sam and Marc are riffing on some strange stuff... I am back to the shoe.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 15:50:50
Quote by Raine:

OK Sam and Marc are riffing on some strange stuff... I am back to the shoe.


I still have to watch the 4-17 show where Marc was arguing with Sam about leaving Air America.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:53:49
All people need to know is where those funds for the gas tax goes.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 15:59:59
The show went quickly today.





Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:00:24
Quote by Raine:

All people need to know is where those funds for the gas tax goes.


And there are some places where the highways are quite literally falling apart.

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 16:00:48
A REMINDER TO EVERYONE:



When uploading photos, please be sure to put them in the meetup08 folder!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:00:57
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.



:lol: This sounds like some of those "Chuck Norris" things!



DOES THE REVERAND WRIGHT WEAR CHUCK NORRIS' PAJAMAS?

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 16:03:20
Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?








Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 16:04:32
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.



:lol: This sounds like some of those "Chuck Norris" things!



DOES THE REVERAND WRIGHT WEAR CHUCK NORRIS' PAJAMAS?




DOES REVEREND WRIGHT WEAR MAGIC UNDERWEAR?



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:07:11
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GAS TO GO UP?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE WAR IN IRAQ?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE TO SKYROCKET?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE MORTGAGES TO FAIL?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING AND SPYING?



DOES REVEREND WRIGHT CAUSE TORTURE AT GITMO?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.



:lol: This sounds like some of those "Chuck Norris" things!



DOES THE REVEReND WRIGHT WEAR CHUCK NORRIS' PAJAMAS?




DOES REVEREND WRIGHT WEAR MAGIC UNDERWEAR?

DOES THE REVEREND WRIGHT SHOP AT WALMART?



Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 16:09:21
I love the pix of Liv and BobR on the couch

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:12:34
When is the picture of the ladies in star's bed going to show-up?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:12:35
Quote by wickedpam:

I love the pix of Liv and BobR on the couch


:rofl:



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/LivBobRDC2008.jpg


Bob and Liv... in da house!!!





Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 16:14:05
Quote by Raine:



:rofl:



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/LivBobRDC2008.jpg


Bob and Liv... in da house!!!





yo - yo - YOHHH!....

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:14:10
we maheed!



:rofl:



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/BobRDC2008.jpg


Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:16:16
Oh Goody! boxed wine!!!



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/StarlingDC2008.jpg


Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:19:10
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:



:rofl:



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/LivBobRDC2008.jpg


Bob and Liv... in da house!!!





yo - yo - YOHHH!....


Livah flav!

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:21:02
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:



:rofl:



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/LivBobRDC2008.jpg


Bob and Liv... in da house!!!





yo - yo - YOHHH!....


Livah flav!


Yeah, Boy! All I need is the clock.

Comment by Shane-O on 04/29/2008 16:23:38
Quote by Raine:

HEy, Where has ShaneO been ?





I'm sorry Ms. Raine - and Liv - I responded to you on the SMS Live Blog - I was up quite late (7 am) - AGAIN - if I could just get rid of those pesky needs for income and sleep, I could get SO much more done.





Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:25:28
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEy, Where has ShaneO been ?





I'm sorry Ms. Raine - and Liv - I responded to you on the SMS Live Blog - I was up quite late (7 am) - AGAIN - if I could just get rid of those pesky needs for income and sleep, I could get SO much more done.



:hug: Just wanted to make sure you were alright.



Comment by Shane-O on 04/29/2008 16:25:43
So glad you all had a great time at the D.C. Meet-Up (crabby that I couldn't attend - hopefully next time...)





Comment by m-hadley on 04/29/2008 16:34:01
Quote by BobR:

A REMINDER TO EVERYONE:



When uploading photos, please be sure to put them in the meetup08 folder!




BobR,

Did I mess up? I tried to put them in the correct place - maybe I goofed

If I did, I apologize :(

Looks like you all found a few of them anyway :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:35:35
And speaking of the Flava Flav Clock. There are a lot of them in this video especially the last minute and a half.





Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:40:07
Oh god... Did I hear that correct? Thom is gonna have the head of the KKK on?

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 16:43:44
Wha? I'll have to stream him. My crappy radio station cut him. :rage:

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 16:44:28
Hello from muscle spasm central! My shoulder is killing me so I am wrecked on muscle relaxers today.



If they haven't been posted here are some of the repeatedly used lines this weekend.



EXIT NOW!



This was most commonly said in God's Trailer Park (see below). Every exit had such important stuff that there was a declaritive command to exit, now.



"Two more hours." Stan, Bob myself and I think Raine kept saying this.



"God's Trailer Park" This is upland South Carolina between about Spartenburg and the North Carolina boarder. There were many and sundry creepy Jesus billboards as well as the church that faced the interstate.



"Baby Jesus has a penis!" Raine pointing at 15th century Italian statue of the Modonna and Child. He was buck naked and did have a penis.



"Look at the unit on that Savior!" My comment to Raine after she pointed out the Baby Jesus Penis. We will both be going to Hell for these comments.



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:44:45
Thom is SO damn on point today! This caller DOES sound like an angry white guy!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:47:03


"Baby Jesus has a penis!" Raine pointing at 15th century Italian statue of the Modonna and Child. He was buck naked and did have a penis.
it was actually a painting Dahlink. I think I scared people away after that fact was stated.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:48:22
Quote by velveeta jones:

Wha? I'll have to stream him. My crappy radio station cut him. :rage:


I think it will be tomorrow, Don Siegleman is coming up tho... THAT oughta be amazing.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 16:52:09
Quote by Raine:



"Baby Jesus has a penis!" Raine pointing at 15th century Italian statue of the Modonna and Child. He was buck naked and did have a penis.
it was actually a painting Dahlink. I think I scared people away after that fact was stated.






whatevah! I can't feel my fingers thanks to powerful meds hehe!

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:57:16
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:



"Baby Jesus has a penis!" Raine pointing at 15th century Italian statue of the Modonna and Child. He was buck naked and did have a penis.
it was actually a painting Dahlink. I think I scared people away after that fact was stated.






whatevah! I can't feel my fingers thanks to powerful meds hehe!
:hug:



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:58:04
The infiltration of woman not getting a taxi in NYC is hardly an issue.





Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:58:13
This caller sounds like a paid Hillary plant.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 16:58:45
Tham basically saying that he will not let his show be dumbed down.. I thom.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 16:59:28
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:



"Baby Jesus has a penis!" Raine pointing at 15th century Italian statue of the Modonna and Child. He was buck naked and did have a penis.
it was actually a painting Dahlink. I think I scared people away after that fact was stated.






whatevah! I can't feel my fingers thanks to powerful meds hehe!


Sounds like some good stuff there.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:00:57
I am sleepy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 17:04:02
Quote by Raine:

I am sleepy.






Me too.

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:08:25
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

I am sleepy.






Me too.


Me three.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:08:58
SIEGLEMAN! :clap:

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 17:12:33
Sleeeeeepy...................yeeesssss....................:thud:

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:14:45
I know this is wrong...



I know...









What about that dream ticket? Put them together??







http://adhonep.addr.com/OBAMA%20CLINTON.JPG


Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:18:27
It's HillBama.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:18:44
Obama is going to give a press conference today to address the Wright Issue.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/29/2008 17:20:54
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

hmmm... that doesn't sound like me. I don't know whether my security settings are too high - the picture I have might not show up. Do any of them have the GWU network? (Does that show?)
JD, I am Raine Corleone in Atlanta, why don't yuo add me, and then we can do it from there?





Corleone?! You just made my day, Godfather.



One of my most beloved movies - And may your first child be a masculine child.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:22:53
This is horrible.



This is why I have a problem with the hillary campaign.



When our own, our party are doing this, please tell me, how does this make us any better than that which we want to defeat in November?

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 17:23:26
Oh sheesh! More Wright talk? Can I stand it?





Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:27:09
Oh, please when is someone going to bring up The Family?

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:28:25
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh sheesh! More Wright talk? Can I stand it?



I can't.





This is really getting stupid.



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:29:29
Quote by livingonli:

Oh, please when is someone going to bring up The Family?


Don't worry. It will happen in the General Election.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:32:18
Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/29/2008 17:33:07
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:







Yes but is it different then a Gay Pride Parade?


Yes.



More gay.

Less pride.

:rofl:




You don't know how right you are!

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 17:35:54
Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.







YES. That ONE.


Hillary meeting with O'Lielly??... ug... apparently to tag-team Obama and support McCain...

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:37:45
Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.













YES. That ONE.
I think I figured something out. Maybe she is trying to go after all those that will never vote for McCain???



is it a strategy, as opposed to being a part of the democratic party?



Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:39:03
Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.













YES. That ONE.


Will Bill-O than go on and say that Obama is not man enough to appear on the Factor and challenge Bill-O in his Hello Kitty underwear?

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:40:45
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.





YES. That ONE.
I think I figured something out. Maybe she is trying to go after all those that will never vote for McCain???



is it a strategy, as opposed to being a part of the democratic party?





Well, mAnn Coulter is supporting Hillary over McSame. She seems to hate him that much.



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 17:47:23
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.













YES. That ONE.


Will Bill-O than go on and say that Obama is not man enough to appear on the Factor and challenge Bill-O in his Hello Kitty underwear?
sans the Hello kitty, I bet you he will say that barack is not man enough.



Hillary, I hope , will not further throw her fellow dem under the bus.



Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 17:54:37
Quote by livingonli:

Oh, please when is someone going to bring up The Family?


You just did! Now, go post a blog about'em!

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 17:59:24
Now I have to go head off and pick up my mail which I had on hold from the DC trip. I went yesterday but the line was too long and I didn't want to carry it all in the rain.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 18:02:55


Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 18:04:06
The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes -- knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:



During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.



At the heart of the Family's American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family's young women's group. And, at the Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.



Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's "most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen.





LINK

Comment by Shane-O on 04/29/2008 18:09:01
Right now - Obama press conference.



Obama to Wright: meet the bus...



Had to be done.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 18:14:21
Some stuff about the Family from their own words.



We believe in the fulfillment of the Scriptures foretelling the end of this world as we know it. It is our belief that we are now living in the time period known in the Bible as the "Last Days" or the "Time of the End," which is the era immediately preceding the return of Jesus Christ (2 Timothy 3:1). His second coming will fulfill the Scripture, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever" (Revelation 11:15).






Comment by velveeta jones on 04/29/2008 18:17:58
And this, which might be a problem............ for us women!



Civil Government and Religious Liberty:



We believe in the Scripture's teaching that civil government is of divine appointment, for the interest and order of human society. (snip)



The only exception to this would be in matters of faith, where obedience to a law of man would mean disobedience to the law of God.



============




The Sanctity of Life:



We are opposed to abortion. Scripture makes it clear that God esteems the unborn as a person with an identity, not merely as a mass of fetal tissue. (snip)


Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 18:18:56
Okay how frickin' addictive is facebook!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/29/2008 18:19:38
Quote by Shane-O:

Right now - Obama press conference.



Obama to Wright: meet the bus...



Had to be done.




:rofl:



Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 18:38:07
I'll have to watch the Bill Moyers thingy and the flaven from Friday night.

Rev. Wright turned on Obama like a junk yard dog, eh?



Comment by MMB on 04/29/2008 19:05:23
Thanks for the healing thoughts for my Daddy. I really am thankful!!!

Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 19:06:16
Quote by Raine:

sans the Hello kitty, I bet you he will say that barack is not man enough.



Hillary, I hope , will not further throw her fellow dem under the bus.



Apparently, Hillary IS man enough... :rolleyes:

Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 20:00:07
Bloggie got quiet suddenly. And now it's time for me to return to the mines of salt.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 20:18:15
here is the plus, if there can be...



If BArack can get thru this REv Wright drama NOW, it will be gone by November.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 20:26:11


Uhm...



1 minute in, you will see what I mean.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 20:35:16
Gas Tax Holiday gets 2 pinnochios from WaPo:



The Pinocchio Test



The advocates of a "gas tax holiday" are exaggerating the benefits to consumers from their proposal. If the Illinois experience is a guide, there is likely to be some reduction in the price of gas, but it would fall well short of the size of the tax reduction. In order to pay for the tax cut, the government would have to cut back on highway construction and maintenance or find some other way of plugging the shortfall in revenues to the Highway Trust Fund.

===================================================





Comment by BobR on 04/29/2008 20:41:46
Quote by Raine:

Gas Tax Holiday gets 2 pinnochios from WaPo:



The Pinocchio Test



The advocates of a "gas tax holiday" are exaggerating the benefits to consumers from their proposal. If the Illinois experience is a guide, there is likely to be some reduction in the price of gas, but it would fall well short of the size of the tax reduction. In order to pay for the tax cut, the government would have to cut back on highway construction and maintenance or find some other way of plugging the shortfall in revenues to the Highway Trust Fund.

===================================================





I think it's time for price controls...

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:24:03
:thud:

Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 21:24:56
It's not the $0.18 tax that bothers me. It's the other 3 DOLLARS and 50 CENTS!!!



. .. . . . . just sayin'

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:26:03
Quote by Raine:

:thud:
Listening to this guy filling in for randi, he just played a drop from *ush, Today during his press conference, saying he had not heard of 4$ a gallon gas.



Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 21:27:57
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

:thud:
Listening to this guy filling in for randi, he just played a drop from *ush, Today during his press conference, saying he had not heard of 4$ a gallon gas.





Yeah, in all fairness it's "only" $3.85/ gallon.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:28:05
Quote by starling310:

It's not the $0.18 tax that bothers me. It's the other 3 DOLLARS and 50 CENTS!!!



. .. . . . . just sayin'
AMEN to that.



I don't mind paying taxes to things that build bridges & roads for goodness sake. I am sure the people of Minneapolis who lost loved ones on that bridge would agree.



Comment by starling310 on 04/29/2008 21:29:02
Is it Stacey Taylor filling in? He's a good one.



Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:33:09
Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:34:35
Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 21:40:55
Quote by starling310:

Is it Stacey Taylor filling in? He's a good one.



yes. I like him. Today tho, he sounds like he is on his last nerves, with the callers (Understandably so)





Comment by livingonli on 04/29/2008 22:13:35
Tonight the salt mine is deep indeed. We are doing game 3 of Rangers-Penguins (Penguins are up 2-0).



At the Sunoco station around the corner from my apartment, gas was $3.61 a gallon before I left for DC. It was $3.73 when I got back and now it is $3.77 a gallon today.



In Canada, gas prices are ranging from $1.19 a liter in Alberta and the Prairies all the way up to $1.40 a liter in Newfoundland/Labroador.

Comment by Raine on 04/29/2008 22:44:13
Comment by TriSec on 04/29/2008 23:10:30
Well folks...I've just become part of "Operation Chaos"



Late to the party, I know....(the Mass Primary was back on Feb 5), but I deliberately changed my registration today to cross the lines and vote for a particular candidate.



I used to be "unenrolled". Now I'm a Democrat.



Take that, Rush!



Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 23:37:19
Evening all. Raine, to answer your question from yesterday, no I wasn't thinking Tifton. They were commanding me to EXIT NOW!

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 23:41:51
Quote by Raine:

Hillary to appear on O'Reilly.













YES. That ONE.






I've said it before and I will say it again.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/29/2008 23:44:49
Quote by Raine:

I know this is wrong...



I know...









What about that dream ticket? Put them together??







http://adhonep.addr.com/OBAMA%20CLINTON.JPG






My that looks like Tim Meadows from SNL.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:01:38
There is a Drinking Liberally here in Jacksonville! But they are lightweights they only meet once a month!

Comment by Raine on 04/30/2008 00:02:25
Tonite's dinner... Rice with Tumeric and onion ... Seasoned steak and a veggire mix of Cauliflower, green beens, onions and red pepper seasoned with Savory and Dill with sliced garlic...

Comment by Raine on 04/30/2008 00:04:00
Quote by Mondobubba:

There is a Drinking Liberally here in Jacksonville! But they are lightweights they only meet once a month!
IT's something! you can break them in!



Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:05:25
Quote by Raine:

Tonite's dinner... Rice with Tumeric and onion ... Seasoned steak and a veggire mix of Cauliflower, green beens, onions and red pepper seasoned with Savory and Dill with sliced garlic...






Mmmmm thems sound like good eats to me.



Oh Raine, I wasn't sleeping when you called. I was watching Sherry Baby with the lovely Maggie Gyllenhal

Comment by shelaghc on 04/30/2008 00:06:50
Quote by livingonli:

Tonight the salt mine is deep indeed. We are doing game 3 of Rangers-Penguins (Penguins are up 2-0).




Go Pens!

http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000a0gbt


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:07:21
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

There is a Drinking Liberally here in Jacksonville! But they are lightweights they only meet once a month!
IT's something! you can break them in!





Indeed it is.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:13:49
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:22:55
OMG. A reality show to be the next telenovela star. :thud:

Comment by BobR on 04/30/2008 00:38:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine cooking dinner


methinks she's taken a few too many nips of the cooking sherry...



:rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 00:39:53
Game now tied 3-3 with 4 minutes remaining in the second period.

Comment by BobR on 04/30/2008 00:40:52
Quote by shelaghc:





Go Pens!

http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000a0gbt


alas - both of my GA teams are done for the season...

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 00:41:13
Quote by Mondobubba:

OMG. A reality show to be the next telenovela star. :thud:


Ay, Dios Mio!

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 00:43:33
Pittsburgh just scored another goal breaking the tie.

Comment by Raine on 04/30/2008 00:44:12
Quote by shelaghc:

Quote by livingonli:

Tonight the salt mine is deep indeed. We are doing game 3 of Rangers-Penguins (Penguins are up 2-0).




Go Pens!

http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000a0gbt
That is so cute!





I loves me my rangers... but you know, NY is not so well known for the cute mascots...



Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 00:53:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by shelaghc:

Quote by livingonli:

Tonight the salt mine is deep indeed. We are doing game 3 of Rangers-Penguins (Penguins are up 2-0).




Go Pens!

http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000a0gbt
That is so cute!





I loves me my rangers... but you know, NY is not so well known for the cute mascots...



Instead we get travesties like the Gorton's Fisherman that passed for an Islanders logo for awhile.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 00:55:13
Canteen Boy and the Scout Master! Best.Alec.Baldwin.skit.ever! :rofl:

Comment by MNRN on 04/30/2008 01:22:33
tru dat my bro, tru dat. :rofl:



just a quick drive by to say hullo. The tweenagah wants the computah (she had the phone but that was NOT enough, she says....)



so nice to "see" my friends in the evening. :hug:

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/30/2008 01:38:38
Quote by MNRN:

tru dat my bro, tru dat. :rofl:



just a quick drive by to say hullo. The tweenagah wants the computah (she had the phone but that was NOT enough, she says....)



so nice to "see" my friends in the evening. :hug:




Followed by "Schweety Balls"

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 01:46:56
Rangers lost 5-3. Penguins could sweep it on Thursday.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/30/2008 02:35:27
Check this out! The "Hillary Clinton Deathwatch" widget.



:rofl:



I just added it to my facebook.



Widget link at Slate

Comment by shelaghc on 04/30/2008 02:46:19




http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000a17ry




:o









:shrug:

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 02:49:45
Damn, that's one huge squirrel.

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/30/2008 02:58:27
Oh! That is just so wrong!

Comment by BobR on 04/30/2008 03:18:16
:rofl:





Comment by Raine on 04/30/2008 03:31:21
Just got done watching the Daily show...





I am going to make a prediction...Newt Gingrich will be McCain's choice for VP.

Comment by livingonli on 04/30/2008 03:33:36
Quote by Raine:

Just got done watching the Daily show...





I am going to make a prediction...Newt Gingrich will be McCain's choice for VP.


:puke:



And if that ticket wins, it is proof that Americans are idiots.