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We paid a price...
Author: Raine
Date: 05/01/2008 12:14:47
Today marks the 5 year anniversary of "Mission Accomplished". On this day, pResident *ush announced, "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended," Bush said at the time. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." [source]
As you know, every Tuesday we have a blog here called Ask a Vet, and the numbers tell us what a lie this was. Yesterday, the White house said they paid a price for that fateful day. 'What?' you say? They admitted a mistake? Why YES!
They Paid the Price... The media SHOULD play this up. They should have played it up years ago. Problem was, the media was too busy cheerleading for this illegal war.
If, according to Dana Perino, how we describe the fight today is so important, then what have all those descriptions we have had over the past 5 years been?
Where those soldiers who died for a mistake any more or less important? First, we had to get al Qaeda, during a time when bush was conflating 911™ and Iraq, then it was for WMD's and so we had to kill Saddaam Hussein, then it was insurgents, then it was for stability, a few times it was actually stated that it was for the oil, then the insurgency became al Qaeda in Iraq, or something like that.... the reason(s) for this have changed so many times I cannot even begin to keep track, nor do I really wish to. However, ALWAYS, we are told that victory must be achieved.
And yet we never get that definition. Instead, we get an endless list of how the president would DESCRIBE this war. Each time more troops and innocent civilians die. There have been hundreds of excuses for so many things that this administration has done, but this one takes the cake. What matters is how the pResident describes the war.
They told this lie before. From Oct. 23, 2003, the pResident said in a press briefing So, the only price to pay that is coming from the White house is the fact that they got caught. And still to this day the WH is saying it was the troops fault, even tho the White House paid to have this banner made.
This all may be trivial to you, and I can understand why. However... in this time of life and death for so many people, we need leaders who tell us the truth, who don't point fingers and who take responsibility. We need a media that doesn't cheerlead like a bunch of spectators at a WWE match. We need a media who cares more about our soldiers than a reverend. We need accountability.
Yes a price was paid for Mission accomplished, but I don't think that George W Bush has a clue to what kind of price was paid. HE has never attended one funeral of a fallen soldier. Not one...
America paid a price. The rPresident simply got embarrassed. That isn't a price. That is a minor inconvenience.
Every Tuesday here on our blog is where you can see the REAL price that is paid for Mission Accomplished. It isn't about how we describe the fight, it is about how many people are dying for this needless war.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
As you know, every Tuesday we have a blog here called Ask a Vet, and the numbers tell us what a lie this was. Yesterday, the White house said they paid a price for that fateful day. 'What?' you say? They admitted a mistake? Why YES!
They Paid the Price...
After shifting explanations, the White House eventually said the "Mission Accomplished" phrase referred to the carrier's crew completing its 10-month mission, not the military completing its mission in Iraq. Bush, in October 2003, disavowed any connection with the "Mission Accomplished" message. He said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later said the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor.
"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," White House press secretary Dana Perino said Wednesday. "And we have certainly paid a price for not being more specific on that banner. And I recognize that the media is going to play this up again tomorrow, as they do every single year."
She said what is important now is "how the president would describe the fight today. It's been a very tough month in Iraq, but we are taking the fight to the enemy."
At least 49 U.S. troops died in Iraq in April, making it the deadliest month since September when 65 U.S. troops died.
If, according to Dana Perino, how we describe the fight today is so important, then what have all those descriptions we have had over the past 5 years been?
Where those soldiers who died for a mistake any more or less important? First, we had to get al Qaeda, during a time when bush was conflating 911™ and Iraq, then it was for WMD's and so we had to kill Saddaam Hussein, then it was insurgents, then it was for stability, a few times it was actually stated that it was for the oil, then the insurgency became al Qaeda in Iraq, or something like that.... the reason(s) for this have changed so many times I cannot even begin to keep track, nor do I really wish to. However, ALWAYS, we are told that victory must be achieved.
And yet we never get that definition. Instead, we get an endless list of how the president would DESCRIBE this war. Each time more troops and innocent civilians die. There have been hundreds of excuses for so many things that this administration has done, but this one takes the cake. What matters is how the pResident describes the war.
They told this lie before. From Oct. 23, 2003, the pResident said in a press briefing
The "Mission Accomplished" sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished.
This all may be trivial to you, and I can understand why. However... in this time of life and death for so many people, we need leaders who tell us the truth, who don't point fingers and who take responsibility. We need a media that doesn't cheerlead like a bunch of spectators at a WWE match. We need a media who cares more about our soldiers than a reverend. We need accountability.
Yes a price was paid for Mission accomplished, but I don't think that George W Bush has a clue to what kind of price was paid. HE has never attended one funeral of a fallen soldier. Not one...
America paid a price. The rPresident simply got embarrassed. That isn't a price. That is a minor inconvenience.
Every Tuesday here on our blog is where you can see the REAL price that is paid for Mission Accomplished. It isn't about how we describe the fight, it is about how many people are dying for this needless war.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/01/2008 12:34:02
m-hadley on 05/01/2008 12:34:02
Mornin' Raine (& Others as you arise from your slumber 
) :coffee:
Excellent post, fits right in with the entry I posted last night on my blog. We have all heard the drum beat to go to war with Iran. If we think that this unprovoked invasion will turn out any better than the invasion/occupation of Iraq, we are seriously misguided/delusional.
Hope that you have a very Happy May Day - remember that May Poles are NOT for Pole Dancing - :D
Cheers,
mfaye
) :coffee:Excellent post, fits right in with the entry I posted last night on my blog. We have all heard the drum beat to go to war with Iran. If we think that this unprovoked invasion will turn out any better than the invasion/occupation of Iraq, we are seriously misguided/delusional.
Hope that you have a very Happy May Day - remember that May Poles are NOT for Pole Dancing - :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
Raine on 05/01/2008 12:36:12
Raine on 05/01/2008 12:36:12
Good morning Faye! it is stunning that here we are trying to stop one war and prevent YET ANOTHER!
And yes! HAPPY MAY DAY! (you commie socialists you!
)
And yes! HAPPY MAY DAY! (you commie socialists you!
)
Comment by 
BobR on 05/01/2008 12:43:17
BobR on 05/01/2008 12:43:17
Mission Accomplished! :coffee:
Comment by right wing hater on 05/01/2008 12:48:32
Good Morning Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum
Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...
'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period
The future is bright: the kids are alright!
Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)
Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show
Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum
Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...
'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period
The future is bright: the kids are alright!
Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)
Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show
Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/01/2008 12:49:14
TriSec on 05/01/2008 12:49:14
Morning folks!
Awww shucks, Raine....(looks down, shuffles feet) :redface:
Ask a Vet soldiers on....until such time we are no longer at war. Pray that we see it in our lifetime.
Awww shucks, Raine....(looks down, shuffles feet) :redface:
Ask a Vet soldiers on....until such time we are no longer at war. Pray that we see it in our lifetime.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 12:54:19
Good morning! I just got done reading them...
The friggin dittohead story just po's me off to no end.
Well they all do, but hey...
Raine on 05/01/2008 12:54:19
Quote by right wing hater:
Good Morning Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum
Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...
'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period
The future is bright: the kids are alright!
Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)
Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show
Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
The friggin dittohead story just po's me off to no end.
Well they all do, but hey...
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:11:17
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:11:17
I saw the last 2 minutes of that interview. I found myself
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:12:29
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:12:29
:thud:
WOw. That was stunning.
WOw. That was stunning.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:18:17
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:18:17
I despise her for going on HIS show of ALL people. I am sorry I do.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:19:35
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:19:35
The US government under Ronald RayGun certaily was behind IGNORING AIDS.
They were certainly behind making it a GAY thing. F*ckers.
They were certainly behind making it a GAY thing. F*ckers.
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:20:09
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:20:09
Good morning everyone. 
Great blog there, Raine. It is really sad that this shit has been going on for 5 years.
And to confess, I do like 10cc.
Great blog there, Raine. It is really sad that this shit has been going on for 5 years.
And to confess, I do like 10cc.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:22:57
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:22:57
Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.
If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:25:16
point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine... 
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:25:16
Quote by livingonli:
Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.
If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:26:13
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:26:13
Oh hell... a Throw down between Shane-o and DJ!!!
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:27:21
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:27:21
Bill Clinton went on Rush's show.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:28:31
Please don't fight, you're both pretty.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:28:31
Quote by Raine:
Oh hell... a Throw down between Shane-o and DJ!!!
Please don't fight, you're both pretty.
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:32:55
I don't know if I could work those machines, either, but then I don't drink coffee
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:32:55
Quote by Raine:point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...Quote by livingonli:
Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.
If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
I don't know if I could work those machines, either, but then I don't drink coffee
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:33:33
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:33:33
O'Rielly's blog threatened Hillary's life:
http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/bill-oreillys-web-site-threatens.html
SO NO, billo IS different from the rest of Faux news.
http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/bill-oreillys-web-site-threatens.html
SO NO, billo IS different from the rest of Faux news.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:36:07
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:36:07
Except when Obama considers meeting with world leaders we don't like... then he's naive.
Comment by 
starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:36:47
starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:36:47
:yawn:
Howdy folks.
The Word of the Day from Merriam Webster is "Salad Days".
Howdy folks.
The Word of the Day from Merriam Webster is "Salad Days".
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:37:32
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:37:32
Bill-O, gas wasn't almost $4 a gallon when Bill Clinton was President. What was it in 2000, about $1.50?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:38:05
Oh I understand, I just found it rather funny that a pot of coffee was sitting RIGHT next to the machine... after all the comments about elitism etc... I just found it really funny.
AND... Good Morning!
<------ Lady Gray tea....
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:38:05
Quote by jd_in_ny:Quote by Raine:point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...Quote by livingonli:
Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.
If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
I don't know if I could work those machines, either, but then I don't drink coffee
AND... Good Morning!
<------ Lady Gray tea....
Comment by 
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:38:41
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:38:41
MOrning :hug:
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:40:20
Perhaps that's why she's working so hard to appeal to the Republicans?
BobR on 05/01/2008 13:40:20
Quote by right wing hater:
Good Morning Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum
Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...
'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period
The future is bright: the kids are alright!
Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)
Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show
Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
Perhaps that's why she's working so hard to appeal to the Republicans?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:40:26
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:40:26
salad days?
That seems rather random. Plus isn't that 2 words?
That seems rather random. Plus isn't that 2 words?
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:40:53
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:40:53
Good morning Mala and :star:. How is our little DC crew today?
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:41:23
cappicino?... as in "latte"?... as in "latte-drinking liberal elitist"???
BobR on 05/01/2008 13:41:23
Quote by Raine:
point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...
cappicino?... as in "latte"?... as in "latte-drinking liberal elitist"???
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:41:59
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:41:59
What a bunch of strawmanning bullshite questions.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:42:29
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:42:29
this buddy-buddy crap is making me wretch
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:42:59
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:42:59
All is fine in DC, going to be in the upper 70's and sunny and it's only one day from the weekend.
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:43:34
Elitist.
starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:43:34
Quote by Raine:
:coffee: <------ Lady Gray tea....
Elitist.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:43:39
They just WON"T vote for her in the GE. I cannot see that happening.
They hate her more than Bill. I know of NO republican that would cross over to vote for her.
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:43:39
Quote by BobR:Quote by right wing hater:
Good Morning Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum
Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...
'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period
The future is bright: the kids are alright!
Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)
Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show
Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
Perhaps that's why she's working so hard to appeal to the Republicans?
They hate her more than Bill. I know of NO republican that would cross over to vote for her.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:44:24
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:44:24
If I were Hillary I wouldn't want to be the beneficiary of the "swiftboating potential" against Obama.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:45:18
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:45:18
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:45:27
I liked the warm weather we had that weekend. It's been in the 50's since I came home Sunday.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:45:27
Quote by wickedpam:
All is fine in DC, going to be in the upper 70's and sunny and it's only one day from the weekend.
I liked the warm weather we had that weekend. It's been in the 50's since I came home Sunday.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:48:26
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:48:26
Why are we letting what the whacko right may or may not do control who we choose? I say, presume that they're going to be sexist, racist, hypocritical blowhards either way and move on from there.
GAAAAH!
GAAAAH!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:52:22
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:52:22
despicable and dangerous. looking the mirror much?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:53:11
AMEN! ::: Raine jumps up from Chair ::: YES!!! 
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:53:11
Quote by jd_in_ny:
Why are we letting what the whacko right may or may not do control who we choose? I say, presume that they're going to be sexist, racist, hypocritical blowhards either way and move on from there.
GAAAAH!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:54:43
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:54:43
I refuse to give Fox any benefit of the doubt
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:56:07
BobR on 05/01/2008 13:56:07
Raine on hold... 
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:14
That's not going to stop her from trying...
BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:14
Quote by Raine:
They just WON"T vote for her in the GE. I cannot see that happening.
They hate her more than Bill. I know of NO republican that would cross over to vote for her.
That's not going to stop her from trying...
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:36
BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:36
FAYE!!
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:57:41
starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:57:41
FAYE!!! MY ROOMIE!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:57:57
livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:57:57
Faye!
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
Oh Faye! 
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
Raine on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
faye!! :rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:56
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:56
Quote by BobR:
Raine on hold...
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:00:07
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:00:07
Guh... the wild thing...
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:03:25
Quivering with anticipation.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:03:25
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:
Raine on hold...
Quivering with anticipation.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:07:04
Aren't we all glad Air America replaced Randi Rhodes with this?
Next week, Marc Maron will be on Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday but that will also be when XM goes back to airing Randi by taking her Nova M show.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:07:04
Quote by Raine:
What the HELL was Roseanne thinking!?!?!
Aren't we all glad Air America replaced Randi Rhodes with this?
Next week, Marc Maron will be on Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday but that will also be when XM goes back to airing Randi by taking her Nova M show.
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:07:51
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:07:51
Dear LerLeane,
It has come to my attention that you and your friends and kin think that George Bush, or "Your Hero" as you call him, is going to hand you free money. I have heard, in town, that you have said things like "Ain't he the best?" and "I wonder how much manure $600 will buy?"
I would like to set the record straight.
Please read the following:
You do not have to repay the 2008 tax rebate but there will be a line added to the 2008 federal tax forms that will permit you to enter the amount of the rebate your receive in 2008. In other words, when you prepare your 2008 tax returns in 2009, the rebate you received in 2008 will be subtracted. In many ways, this rebate check is not free money from the government, but instead it is an advance on your next tax refund.
LerLeane. LerLeane. LerLeane.
Woops. . . I think your fried Chicken is burning.
It has come to my attention that you and your friends and kin think that George Bush, or "Your Hero" as you call him, is going to hand you free money. I have heard, in town, that you have said things like "Ain't he the best?" and "I wonder how much manure $600 will buy?"
I would like to set the record straight.
Please read the following:
You do not have to repay the 2008 tax rebate but there will be a line added to the 2008 federal tax forms that will permit you to enter the amount of the rebate your receive in 2008. In other words, when you prepare your 2008 tax returns in 2009, the rebate you received in 2008 will be subtracted. In many ways, this rebate check is not free money from the government, but instead it is an advance on your next tax refund.
LerLeane. LerLeane. LerLeane.
Woops. . . I think your fried Chicken is burning.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:11:21
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:11:21
Still on hold...
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:13:11
Math is hard.
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:13:11
Quote by starling310:
Dear LerLeane,
It has come to my attention that you and your friends and kin think that George Bush, or "Your Hero" as you call him, is going to hand you free money. I have heard, in town, that you have said things like "Ain't he the best?" and "I wonder how much manure $600 will buy?"
I would like to set the record straight.
Please read the following:
You do not have to repay the 2008 tax rebate but there will be a line added to the 2008 federal tax forms that will permit you to enter the amount of the rebate your receive in 2008. In other words, when you prepare your 2008 tax returns in 2009, the rebate you received in 2008 will be subtracted. In many ways, this rebate check is not free money from the government, but instead it is an advance on your next tax refund.
LerLeane. LerLeane. LerLeane.
Woops. . . I think your fried Chicken is burning.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:13:29
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:13:29
Lerleane's just having trouble filling the words in the big box.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:15:46
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:15:46
Did Jim just hack up a lung?
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:16:36
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:16:36
Raine!
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:16:46
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:16:46
RAINE!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:17:10
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:17:10
yay Raine!
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 14:18:07
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 14:18:07
Morning all! Just a quick in and out. Faye! Heard ya on the radio show! Just as we were comin' back from............. the Library!
Can I just say......... Libraries are GREAT! And one of the things we must continue to fight to secure!!
Anyway. I will be outside listening to the show......... and continuing the sidewalk saga (digging out the sidewalk path). We've had freezes the past two nights, so the ground is hard. *sigh*
Can I just say......... Libraries are GREAT! And one of the things we must continue to fight to secure!!
Anyway. I will be outside listening to the show......... and continuing the sidewalk saga (digging out the sidewalk path). We've had freezes the past two nights, so the ground is hard. *sigh*
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:18:51
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:18:51
except a lot of Americans to whom "tough" is important don't like to see a tough woman... just sayin'
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 14:19:11
BobR on 05/01/2008 14:19:11
I do NOT want to think about Hillary "coming" on Bill O'Lielly... :puke:
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:19:47
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:19:47
Raine!
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 14:21:46
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 14:21:46
Oh yeah, I guess we missed the small print on the banner, yes?
:P
:P
"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," White House press secretary Dana Perino said Wednesday
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:21:48
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:21:48
Quote by BobR:
I do NOT want to think about Hillary "coming" on Bill O'Lielly... :puke:
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:22:33
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:22:33
Someone tell me when I can leave the penalty box... I let the thought bubble speak by mistake... 
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:23:10
:rofl:
Dana is such a waste of air.
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:23:10
Quote by velveeta jones:
Oh yeah, I guess we missed the small print on the banner, yes?
:P"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," White House press secretary Dana Perino said Wednesday
:rofl:
Dana is such a waste of air.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:24:13
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:24:13
That was an unfortunate turn of phrase
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:26:43
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:26:43
Quote by Raine:
Someone tell me when I can leave the penalty box... I let the thought bubble speak by mistake...
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:27:39
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:27:39
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:28:37
I still think you did fine.
It's quite possible the Rangers could begin their summer vacation after tonight. The game is on Versus, but we are still doing the post-game and we are recording the Versus telecast for late night replay.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:28:37
Quote by Raine:
Someone tell me when I can leave the penalty box... I let the thought bubble speak by mistake...
I still think you did fine.
It's quite possible the Rangers could begin their summer vacation after tonight. The game is on Versus, but we are still doing the post-game and we are recording the Versus telecast for late night replay.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:29:51
::: sips squeeze bottle of Raintini's :::
Maybe I don't really wanna leave!!
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:29:51
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Someone tell me when I can leave the penalty box... I let the thought bubble speak by mistake...
Maybe I don't really wanna leave!!
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 14:32:19
:rofl:
must be one of those colloquialisms...
BobR on 05/01/2008 14:32:19
Quote by starling310:<---- It's spelled "Clair" but it's pronounced RAINE.
:rofl:
must be one of those colloquialisms...
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:33:57
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:33:57
Headline over at Raw Story:
EXCLUSIVE: BREAK-INS PLAGUE US
ATTORNEY TARGETS: DEVELOPING...
:foil:
This should be interesting once it is posted.
EXCLUSIVE: BREAK-INS PLAGUE US
ATTORNEY TARGETS: DEVELOPING...
:foil:
This should be interesting once it is posted.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:35:54
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:35:54
CAller is correct...
There is the Library the FLAN, there are a lot of things that have happened SINCE she left office that they will go after her for.
There is the Library the FLAN, there are a lot of things that have happened SINCE she left office that they will go after her for.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:37:02
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:37:02
JD! this is what you said, about not accepting the republican meme.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:39:17
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:39:17
Fox has the Largest Prime time news audience? That seems impossible, becuase they don't have news in primetime, they have punditry shows, no? I thought that even if you caount those shows as news, perse, CNN had a larger audience.
CAn we get some stats for that peice of information from :clown:?
I don't mind being wrong, I just find that statement suspicious.
CAn we get some stats for that peice of information from :clown:?
I don't mind being wrong, I just find that statement suspicious.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:42:13
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:42:13
it's like accepted knowledge - Fox has the biggest audience, Fox is the only conservative-leaning one, all the others are liberal. must be challenged!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:43:24
jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 14:43:24
Chris is really bringing me down today
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:46:07
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:46:07
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:49:53
I know he plays devil's advocate, but yeah, today is one of those days when I feel like someone else would watch faux news for HIM.
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:49:53
Quote by jd_in_ny:
Chris is really bringing me down today
I know he plays devil's advocate, but yeah, today is one of those days when I feel like someone else would watch faux news for HIM.
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:50:08
Aaron Brown!!! :: swoon :: He used to be my "Lesbian Man Crush" before I "met" Thom Hartmann.
OMG, I am so glad he got picked up by PBS and I will able to watch him again.
:bow:
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:50:08
Quote by Raine:
Aaron Brown to host PBS's Wide Angle!
I used to really like his show on CNN...
Aaron Brown!!! :: swoon :: He used to be my "Lesbian Man Crush" before I "met" Thom Hartmann.
OMG, I am so glad he got picked up by PBS and I will able to watch him again.
:bow:
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:51:39
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:51:39
That boy was wonderful!!!
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:53:28
I wasn't sure if it was you or someone else, but I remembered someone on das blog had a crush on AB...
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:53:28
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Aaron Brown to host PBS's Wide Angle!
I used to really like his show on CNN...
Aaron Brown!!! :: swoon :: He used to be my "Lesbian Man Crush" before I "met" Thom Hartmann.
OMG, I am so glad he got picked up by PBS and I will able to watch him again.
:bow:
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:54:16
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:54:16
:star: If mgm joined us on the blog, would he be your lesbian straight-man crush again?
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:54:20
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 14:54:20
A little bit! How about I atleast have enough left over so I can enjoy going out the a frickin matinee movie!!!!! 
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:54:49
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:54:49
Aw Damn, I just realized I missed Michael Moore on Larry King las night.
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:57:04
starling310 on 05/01/2008 14:57:04
Toilet Paper??? 1 DOLLAR A ROLL!!! For the Scott "Cardboard" tissue.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:57:25
So did I. Damn work. Let me know if you find anything posted.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 14:57:25
Quote by Raine:
Aw Damn, I just realized I missed Michael Moore on Larry King las night.
So did I. Damn work. Let me know if you find anything posted.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:58:27
Raine on 05/01/2008 14:58:27
From the Larry King CNN transcript:
KING: What about how he's handled the Reverend Wright thing?
MOORE: Well, you know, I don't know, Larry. I mean I think anybody who goes to church knows if -- I mean I just heard Hillary Clinton say there on the -- that other station, O'Reilly.
KING: Right. We're going to show a couple of clips from it, yes. MOORE: Talking about how had, you know, had she heard those things from her pastor, she would have got right up out of the church. (LAUGHTER) and I was thinking, jeez, you know, I mean I go to mass still. I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been that way all my life. But if I had -- if I had gotten up every time I heard a priest from the pulpit in my travels around the country say things like, as I've heard them say, that birth control is a sin, that women should not be priests, that women have a different role in the church...
KING: You'd be walking out all the time.
MOORE: Well, I would have been walking out so much -- that would have been so much aerobic activity for me I...
KING: Yes, but how do you think...
MOORE: ...I wouldn't look like this.
KING: The candidate you're endorsing, how do you think he's handled this?
MOORE: I think he's handled it the best way that he can. I think that, you know, that's my point, how are you going to get -- it's like suddenly I came in with a videotape saying Larry, I've got a video of your rabbi here from 1959...
=======================================================
:clap: The howah is there .....
KING: What about how he's handled the Reverend Wright thing?
MOORE: Well, you know, I don't know, Larry. I mean I think anybody who goes to church knows if -- I mean I just heard Hillary Clinton say there on the -- that other station, O'Reilly.
KING: Right. We're going to show a couple of clips from it, yes. MOORE: Talking about how had, you know, had she heard those things from her pastor, she would have got right up out of the church. (LAUGHTER) and I was thinking, jeez, you know, I mean I go to mass still. I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been that way all my life. But if I had -- if I had gotten up every time I heard a priest from the pulpit in my travels around the country say things like, as I've heard them say, that birth control is a sin, that women should not be priests, that women have a different role in the church...
KING: You'd be walking out all the time.
MOORE: Well, I would have been walking out so much -- that would have been so much aerobic activity for me I...
KING: Yes, but how do you think...
MOORE: ...I wouldn't look like this.
KING: The candidate you're endorsing, how do you think he's handled this?
MOORE: I think he's handled it the best way that he can. I think that, you know, that's my point, how are you going to get -- it's like suddenly I came in with a videotape saying Larry, I've got a video of your rabbi here from 1959...
=======================================================
:clap: The howah is there .....
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:02:13
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:02:13
Later on in that same interview:
KING: Do you think the Reverend Wright thing is over?
MOORE: It's over when cable news decide it's over. And, you know, I mean when -- you know, when these networks come up with something new. I mean I was kind of -- I was enjoying the flag lapel controversy.
By the way, Larry King, where is your flag lapel pin?
I don't -- I don't see it on you.
KING: Where's yours?
MOORE: Well, I'm wearing mine. That's right. It's right -- it's the world's smallest flag lapel pin.
KING: Oh, I see it.
MOORE: You just can't see it.
KING: Microscopic.
MOORE: That's why you don't wear a coat, so you don't have to wear the flag lapel pin.
KING: So you found me out.
MOORE: Yes, that's right.
KING: Do you think the Reverend Wright thing is over?
MOORE: It's over when cable news decide it's over. And, you know, I mean when -- you know, when these networks come up with something new. I mean I was kind of -- I was enjoying the flag lapel controversy.
By the way, Larry King, where is your flag lapel pin?
I don't -- I don't see it on you.
KING: Where's yours?
MOORE: Well, I'm wearing mine. That's right. It's right -- it's the world's smallest flag lapel pin.
KING: Oh, I see it.
MOORE: You just can't see it.
KING: Microscopic.
MOORE: That's why you don't wear a coat, so you don't have to wear the flag lapel pin.
KING: So you found me out.
MOORE: Yes, that's right.
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:06:30
IT WAS ME.
Oh, I Love Aaron. I was devestated when they got rid of his show on CNN. Bastids.
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:06:30
Quote by Raine:I wasn't sure if it was you or someone else, but I remembered someone on das blog had a crush on AB...Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Aaron Brown to host PBS's Wide Angle!
I used to really like his show on CNN...
Aaron Brown!!! :: swoon :: He used to be my "Lesbian Man Crush" before I "met" Thom Hartmann.
OMG, I am so glad he got picked up by PBS and I will able to watch him again.
:bow:
IT WAS ME.
Oh, I Love Aaron. I was devestated when they got rid of his show on CNN. Bastids.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:07:33
What about mgm, ?
livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:07:33
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I wasn't sure if it was you or someone else, but I remembered someone on das blog had a crush on AB...Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Aaron Brown to host PBS's Wide Angle!
I used to really like his show on CNN...
Aaron Brown!!! :: swoon :: He used to be my "Lesbian Man Crush" before I "met" Thom Hartmann.
OMG, I am so glad he got picked up by PBS and I will able to watch him again.
:bow:
IT WAS ME.
Oh, I Love Aaron. I was devestated when they got rid of his show on CNN. Bastids.
What about mgm,
?
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:07:40
Perhaps... He is lovely.
Buuut.....yeah, Aaron Brown is the original!!
My "Retro Lesbian straight-man crush."
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:07:40
Quote by livingonli:
:star: If mgm joined us on the blog, would he be your lesbian straight-man crush again?
Perhaps... He is lovely.
Buuut.....yeah, Aaron Brown is the original!!
My "Retro Lesbian straight-man crush."
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:09:56
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:09:56
What is wrong with that word? Don't they use Penis all the time on the show?
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:12:01
I think
is a little uncomfortable discussing the "fun spot". It might have something to do with what some of us were discussing in DC.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:12:01
Quote by Raine:
What is wrong with that word? Don't they use Penis all the time on the show?
I think
is a little uncomfortable discussing the "fun spot". It might have something to do with what some of us were discussing in DC.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 15:12:30
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 15:12:30
Manatees
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:13:28
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:13:28
I love Jim's "Kit."
:lol:
:lol:
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:14:57
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:14:57
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:15:47
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:15:47
Purification Processes? He really is NUTZ!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 15:16:32
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 15:16:32
Yikes............ this is.............. (real) hard work. 20 minutes only, and broken back!
Sitting down for awhile and drinking a beer.............. (Reeds Ginger Beer) :D
Sitting down for awhile and drinking a beer.............. (Reeds Ginger Beer) :D
Comment by m-hadley on 05/01/2008 15:17:02
m-hadley on 05/01/2008 15:17:02
Yeah! Raine,
Sorry this comment is so delayed (my computer at home was acting up - too much dog hair in the vent I suppose
), But I had to congratulate you on your call-in. It totally cracked me up "When Hillary came on O'Rielly..." Just wondering - did she use a loofah or a falafel?
Cheers,
mfaye
PS. How is that penalty box - is it nicely appointed? How's the wet bar?
Just wondering :D
Sorry this comment is so delayed (my computer at home was acting up - too much dog hair in the vent I suppose
), But I had to congratulate you on your call-in. It totally cracked me up "When Hillary came on O'Rielly..." Just wondering - did she use a loofah or a falafel?Cheers,
mfaye
PS. How is that penalty box - is it nicely appointed? How's the wet bar?
Just wondering :D
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 15:22:27
a roto-tiller would help break up that dirt...
BobR on 05/01/2008 15:22:27
Quote by velveeta jones:
Yikes............ this is.............. (real) hard work. 20 minutes only, and broken back!
Sitting down for awhile and drinking a beer.............. (Reeds Ginger Beer) :D
a roto-tiller would help break up that dirt...
Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 15:22:42
BLOW THROUGH!
TriSec on 05/01/2008 15:22:42
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:23:02
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:23:02
The Penalty Box is the best seat in the house.
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 15:24:40
there's no shortage of ice... :D
plus - we just had the basement redone with a widescreen TV and surround-sound... :P
BobR on 05/01/2008 15:24:40
Quote by m-hadley:
Yeah! Raine,
Sorry this comment is so delayed (my computer at home was acting up - too much dog hair in the vent I suppose
Cheers,
mfaye
PS. How is that penalty box - is it nicely appointed? How's the wet bar?
Just wondering :D
there's no shortage of ice... :D
plus - we just had the basement redone with a widescreen TV and surround-sound... :P
Comment by m-hadley on 05/01/2008 15:24:46
Raine,
I used to send in Roseanne's rants to Momma cause I love her Roseanne impression, but alas, Roseanne has jumped the shark and is only making insane comments these days - not a word of which I would like to hear come out of Steph's mouth :(
BTB Raine - I loved your call this mornin' - it had me chuckling like a deranged liberrian :clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/01/2008 15:24:46
Quote by Raine:
What the HELL was Roseanne thinking!?!?!
Raine,
I used to send in Roseanne's rants to Momma cause I love her Roseanne impression, but alas, Roseanne has jumped the shark and is only making insane comments these days - not a word of which I would like to hear come out of Steph's mouth :(
BTB Raine - I loved your call this mornin' - it had me chuckling like a deranged liberrian
:clap:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:26:40
starling310 on 05/01/2008 15:26:40
Crazy is in the eye of the Beholder.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 15:28:03
You can rent those pretty cheap too.
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 15:28:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by velveeta jones:
Yikes............ this is.............. (real) hard work. 20 minutes only, and broken back!
Sitting down for awhile and drinking a beer.............. (Reeds Ginger Beer) :D
a roto-tiller would help break up that dirt...
You can rent those pretty cheap too.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:29:28
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:29:28
Oh I forgot, was I allowed out of the box?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:38:57
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:38:57
REgarding what I was talking about the Repubs using her appearance on billo:
If you think they won't use THAT against her in the GE...
If you think they won't use THAT against her in the GE...
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 15:43:19
I get what she was TRYING to say, but she butchered that worse than Obama did with the "bitter" comment...
BobR on 05/01/2008 15:43:19
Quote by Raine:
REgarding what I was talking about the Repubs using her appearance on billo:
If you think they won't use THAT against her in the GE...
I get what she was TRYING to say, but she butchered that worse than Obama did with the "bitter" comment...
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:45:41
I wonder if Roseanne's state of mind coincides with her being a Hillary supporter?
livingonli on 05/01/2008 15:45:41
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
What the HELL was Roseanne thinking!?!?!
Raine,
I used to send in Roseanne's rants to Momma cause I love her Roseanne impression, but alas, Roseanne has jumped the shark and is only making insane comments these days - not a word of which I would like to hear come out of Steph's mouth :(
BTB Raine - I loved your call this mornin' - it had me chuckling like a deranged liberrian
Cheers,
mfaye
I wonder if Roseanne's state of mind coincides with her being a Hillary supporter?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:48:22
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:48:22
:banana: Freedom! 
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:55:07
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:55:07
Regarding Iran... I STRONGLY Suggest everyone go over and read Faye's blog today.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 15:57:17
Raine on 05/01/2008 15:57:17
Congress NEEDS to repeal the IRWR.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:01:19
Good morning everyo.
Livin, I doubt very much that Chris has any need to know anything about the "fun spot" and he always got me down. He brought the show to a screeching halt on many occasions and ruined the humor of Stephanie and Jim. Stephenie really needs to put him in his place - in the control room away from the microphone. Harumpf.
Hillary coming on O'Liely?! My minds eye is spinning. Since Rush and Laura Ingrahm are basically campaigning for her, maybe she'll show up on their shows next. Does everyone now realize that she is a snake in the grass? Don't like her, never liked her. I think she has f*ucked over Barack and the Democratic party more than Rev. Wright.
I am so full of piss and vinegar this morning. Meow!
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:01:19
Good morning everyo.Livin, I doubt very much that Chris has any need to know anything about the "fun spot" and he always got me down. He brought the show to a screeching halt on many occasions and ruined the humor of Stephanie and Jim. Stephenie really needs to put him in his place - in the control room away from the microphone. Harumpf.
Hillary coming on O'Liely?! My minds eye is spinning. Since Rush and Laura Ingrahm are basically campaigning for her, maybe she'll show up on their shows next. Does everyone now realize that she is a snake in the grass? Don't like her, never liked her. I think she has f*ucked over Barack and the Democratic party more than Rev. Wright.
I am so full of piss and vinegar this morning. Meow!
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:03:59
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:03:59
Good morning Izzy! :::tosses what's left of the Raintini Squeeze bottle:::
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:07:49
livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:07:49
I also wonder if the right are propping up Hillary because even if McSame loses the election, if she is the one to get in on many issues she would probably support the GOP agenda in areas like the occupation of Iraq.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:09:29
livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:09:29
Is anyone else having a problem with the Nova M stream?
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:11:25
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:11:25
Okay, what the hell? The Phoneix stream has "Race for the WHite House" instead of Thom. :scratchhead:
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:13:47
me too WTF?!?!?
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:13:47
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay, what the hell? The Phoneix stream has "Race for the WHite House" instead of Thom. :scratchhead:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:14:14
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:14:14
and now back to Thom.
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 16:14:27
definitely acting weird...
BobR on 05/01/2008 16:14:27
Quote by livingonli:
Is anyone else having a problem with the Nova M stream?
definitely acting weird...
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:14:34
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:14:34
well, Thom from yesterday.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:15:03
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:15:03
It seems to be back. That was very strange.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:16:35
you are right! Even stranger still.
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:16:35
Quote by wickedpam:
well, Thom from yesterday.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:17:38
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:17:38
Ok, I am gonna check my aar steam, this is getting too 
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 16:19:24
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 16:19:24
Just announced: A certain person coming to Velveeta's town. His initials are BO and he is NOT a neo-con, phone sex pervert blow-hard!
:D
:D
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:20:34
maybe someone fell on the control board (or whatever it's called)
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:20:34
Quote by Raine:
Ok, I am gonna check my aar steam, this is getting too
maybe someone fell on the control board (or whatever it's called)
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:22:46
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:22:46
Superdelegates call for END TO WAR....
This is a good story...
This is a good story...
On the fifth anniversary of President Bush's "Mission Accomplished" aircraft carrier landing, antiwar superdelegates -- supporting Clinton, Obama, or who remain uncommitted -- held a conference call with reporters calling for language to be adopted at August's Democratic convention for ending the Iraq war.
On the conference call, sponsored by the left-leaning group Win Without War, these superdelegates said their purpose is to ensure neither Democrat candidate -- should he/she win the presidency -- wavers on their support for ending the Iraq war fully. Rep. Barbara Lee, an Obama supporter, stressed the importance of the grassroots effort on the part of Democrats to show their support for the presidential candidates' plans to end the war.
"We need to make sure there isn't any fuzzy language," Rep. Jim McGovern, a Clinton supporter, added. "We have to demonstrate the Democratic Party gets it."
The campaign hopes to get more superdelegates to sign a petition for the Democratic National Platform to include a full withdrawal from Iraq with no permanent military bases behind; negotiations in the Middle East, including with the Iranian government, per recommendations by the Iraq Study Group, and an end to torture and closure of the Guantanamo Bay prison.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:29:01
is it not a politician!?!?!?!
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:29:01
Quote by velveeta jones:
Just announced: A certain person coming to Velveeta's town. His initials are BO and he is NOT a neo-con, phone sex pervert blow-hard!
:D
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:30:14
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:30:14
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones! 
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:31:30
I just put Pheonix back on... the news part sounds fine. Is the problem fixed for the broadcast?
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:31:30
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Ok, I am gonna check my aar steam, this is getting too
maybe someone fell on the control board (or whatever it's called)
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:33:39
livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:33:39
KPHX might be having trouble with the AAR feed. I can get it on Sirius.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:38:41
sounds like it.
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 16:38:41
Quote by Raine:I just put Pheonix back on... the news part sounds fine. Is the problem fixed for the broadcast?Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Ok, I am gonna check my aar steam, this is getting too
maybe someone fell on the control board (or whatever it's called)
sounds like it.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:42:14
Meeeeee aaaaaaand Mrs, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones. We got a thang goin' on! DON'T BLOCK THE SHOT!
Oatmeal, banana and yogurt wth a dash of Raintini. Lovely.
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:42:14
Quote by Raine:
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones!
Meeeeee aaaaaaand Mrs, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones. We got a thang goin' on! DON'T BLOCK THE SHOT! Oatmeal, banana and yogurt wth a dash of Raintini. Lovely.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:44:12
I looOOOve that song!!!
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:44:12
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Raine:
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones!
Oatmeal, banana and yogurt wth a dash of Raintini. Lovely.
I looOOOve that song!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 16:46:02
Hell-to-the-yeah!!
I'll be in the front row, doing this:
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 16:46:02
Quote by Raine:
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones!
Hell-to-the-yeah!!
I'll be in the front row, doing this:
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 16:46:23
Good. I would rather stream from Nova.
Raine on 05/01/2008 16:46:23
Quote by wickedpam:
sounds like it.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:49:40
Did you hear Thom talking about Hillary on Bill-O's show last night. Otherwise, you might be getting a different show unless they fixed the problem with the AAR feed.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 16:49:40
Quote by Raine:Good. I would rather stream from Nova.Quote by wickedpam:
sounds like it.
Did you hear Thom talking about Hillary on Bill-O's show last night. Otherwise, you might be getting a different show unless they fixed the problem with the AAR feed.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:56:28
And she will gladly give up cocktail hour to toss a nuke Iran's way. Woo hoo. What a gal!
I wonder if she has been chatting with Mr. Lieberman. That's a ticket the repugs could get behind.
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 16:56:28
Quote by livingonli:
I also wonder if the right are propping up Hillary because even if McSame loses the election, if she is the one to get in on many issues she would probably support the GOP agenda in areas like the occupation of Iraq.
And she will gladly give up cocktail hour to toss a nuke Iran's way. Woo hoo. What a gal!
I wonder if she has been chatting with Mr. Lieberman. That's a ticket the repugs could get behind.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 17:08:15
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 17:08:15
Back to digging............. ugh.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 17:08:52
You better find the cure for stank eye. Michelle will not be amused. 
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 17:08:52
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones!
Hell-to-the-yeah!!
I'll be in the front row, doing this:
You better find the cure for stank eye. Michelle will not be amused.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 17:17:59
HEll yeah. I love Michelle, but I NEVER want to piss that woman off!
Raine on 05/01/2008 17:17:59
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
OK, SO you are going I assume Ms. Jones!
Hell-to-the-yeah!!
I'll be in the front row, doing this:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 17:18:26
Get the zombies to do that
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 17:18:26
Quote by velveeta jones:
Back to digging............. ugh.
Get the zombies to do that
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 17:20:36
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 17:20:36
These zombies are damn hard to train!
Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 17:34:16
TriSec on 05/01/2008 17:34:16
Pie. I must have pie.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 17:46:54
livingonli on 05/01/2008 17:46:54
Someone feed Tri.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 17:58:38
Raine on 05/01/2008 17:58:38
Rauschenberg sues artist for selling his trash
The American artist Robert Rauschenberg has sued an artist in Florida, claiming violation of his rights under the US Visual Artists Rights Act of 1990 (VARA).
According to Rauschenberg, in 2007 the defendant, Robert Francis Montgomery of Florida, who also paints under the name of Robert Fontaine, sold works purportedly by Rauschenberg which Rauschenberg did not create, with certificates of authenticity. Rauschenberg alleges that this violated his rights under VARA to protect the attribution of his work.
Montgomery says there was no violation of artists’ rights because Rauschenberg created the disputed work. His lawyer, Yale T. Freeman of Naples, Florida, told The Art Newspaper that Montgomery found a group of “chromes,” or large negatives, in Rauschenberg’s trash in 1998. Although most of them were given away or discarded over the years, “a piece was sold”, Mr Freeman said. He disagrees that this diluted Rauschenberg’s name or prejudiced his reputation, saying: “Why does the lion want to eat the mouse?”
======================================================
MAybe because the LION creates the Art and decides what is his to sell or not.
The American artist Robert Rauschenberg has sued an artist in Florida, claiming violation of his rights under the US Visual Artists Rights Act of 1990 (VARA).
According to Rauschenberg, in 2007 the defendant, Robert Francis Montgomery of Florida, who also paints under the name of Robert Fontaine, sold works purportedly by Rauschenberg which Rauschenberg did not create, with certificates of authenticity. Rauschenberg alleges that this violated his rights under VARA to protect the attribution of his work.
Montgomery says there was no violation of artists’ rights because Rauschenberg created the disputed work. His lawyer, Yale T. Freeman of Naples, Florida, told The Art Newspaper that Montgomery found a group of “chromes,” or large negatives, in Rauschenberg’s trash in 1998. Although most of them were given away or discarded over the years, “a piece was sold”, Mr Freeman said. He disagrees that this diluted Rauschenberg’s name or prejudiced his reputation, saying: “Why does the lion want to eat the mouse?”
======================================================
MAybe because the LION creates the Art and decides what is his to sell or not.
Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 18:18:42
TriSec on 05/01/2008 18:18:42
Well, looks like we've got some gay dames today...
Dodgers/Marlins tied at 3...
Birds and Rays in a snorefest...
KC and Texas, yick.
First pitch at Wrigley in moments!
Dodgers/Marlins tied at 3...
Birds and Rays in a snorefest...
KC and Texas, yick.
First pitch at Wrigley in moments!
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 18:27:45
livingonli on 05/01/2008 18:27:45
Cubs game is on WGN this afternoon.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 18:33:55
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 18:33:55
Go Marlins!!
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 18:57:14
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 18:57:14
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 19:15:03
Raine on 05/01/2008 19:15:03
OMG! Randi Flew with mAnn?!?!?
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 19:15:59
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 19:15:59
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 19:17:43
Hinky? There is no way she committed suicide. I simply do not believe it. They found her in a SHED??
Raine on 05/01/2008 19:17:43
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
DC Madam commits suicide?
That seems hinky
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 19:22:18
livingonli on 05/01/2008 19:22:18
I guess we'll never see who her customer list is. So far we only know David Vitter and Dick Cheney are on the list.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 19:25:50
There is also this tidbit:
Raine on 05/01/2008 19:25:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
DC Madam commits suicide?
That seems hinky
One of the escort service employees was former University of Maryland, Baltimore County, professor Brandy Britton, who was arrested on prostitution charges in 2006. She committed suicide in January before she was scheduled to go to trial.
Last year, Palfrey said she, too, was humiliated by her prostitution charges, but said: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."
Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 19:34:58
I have to say I agree. Why would she do it on her mother's property in a shed. Only times you find bodies in a shed is when someone has put them there with a s-load of lyme
wickedpam on 05/01/2008 19:34:58
Quote by Raine:Hinky? There is no way she committed suicide. I simply do not believe it. They found her in a SHED??Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
DC Madam commits suicide?
That seems hinky
I have to say I agree. Why would she do it on her mother's property in a shed. Only times you find bodies in a shed is when someone has put them there with a s-load of lyme
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 19:42:05
velveeta jones on 05/01/2008 19:42:05
mAnn Coulter: Hitman for the perverted neo-cons.
:D
:D
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 19:50:37
Raine on 05/01/2008 19:50:37
If ANYONE hehears Randi mention Robo call issue in NC, please report it here! I am going our for a little bit... 
Be back in a few my friends... :P
Be back in a few my friends... :P
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 19:57:06
livingonli on 05/01/2008 19:57:06
Too bad I can't listen to Randi on the way to work until Monday. But starting Monday I will be able to listen again on XM while WWRL continues to carry the AAR host du jour.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 20:01:07
livingonli on 05/01/2008 20:01:07
MSNBC is talking about the Madam's suicide.
Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 20:01:58
Ya know, I had an uncle in the "family business" in the North End of Boston in the 60s and 70s...(hint: Sicilian.)
When people talked too much in those days, you'd tend to find them at the bottom of Boston Harbor.
TriSec on 05/01/2008 20:01:58
Quote by wickedpam:
I have to say I agree. Why would she do it on her mother's property in a shed. Only times you find bodies in a shed is when someone has put them there with a s-load of lyme
Ya know, I had an uncle in the "family business" in the North End of Boston in the 60s and 70s...(hint: Sicilian.)
When people talked too much in those days, you'd tend to find them at the bottom of Boston Harbor.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:08:27
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:08:27
According to police, the DC Madam left a suicide note, so... we'll see what else they find in the shed and elsewhere.
In celebutard news, Dennis Rodman was arrested for hitting a woman at an LA hotel yesterday. Now he's goin' to rehab.
In celebutard news, Dennis Rodman was arrested for hitting a woman at an LA hotel yesterday. Now he's goin' to rehab.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:15:19
Did they find a snake in mAnn's pants?
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:15:19
Quote by Raine:
OMG! Randi Flew with mAnn?!?!?
Did they find a snake in mAnn's pants?
Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 20:19:09
TriSec on 05/01/2008 20:19:09
Randi and mAnn getting ready for a flight:
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:40:52
Good one Tri!
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 20:40:52
Good one Tri!
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 20:56:29
To hittin' women rehab? is that right next door to Hiring Hooker's rehab?
Around the block from no more gayhab?
Remember when entering a rehab center REALLY meant something?
Raine on 05/01/2008 20:56:29
Quote by IzzyBitz:
According to police, the DC Madam left a suicide note, so... we'll see what else they find in the shed and elsewhere.
In celebutard news, Dennis Rodman was arrested for hitting a woman at an LA hotel yesterday. Now he's goin' to rehab.
Around the block from no more gayhab?
Remember when entering a rehab center REALLY meant something?
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 20:59:04
Mutha f*cking Snakes in 'eh Mutha F*cking pants!
That was a good one Izzy!
Raine on 05/01/2008 20:59:04
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Raine:
OMG! Randi Flew with mAnn?!?!?
Did they find a snake in mAnn's pants?
That was a good one Izzy!
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 21:20:47
Raine on 05/01/2008 21:20:47
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 21:42:04
Don't forget "I Didn't Know It Was A Tranny" Rehab. It seems rehab is just a way to avoid jail time cuz most of them are "cured" until the jail scare is over and then it's party hearty all over again.
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 21:42:04
Don't forget "I Didn't Know It Was A Tranny" Rehab. It seems rehab is just a way to avoid jail time cuz most of them are "cured" until the jail scare is over and then it's party hearty all over again.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 21:45:01
Raine on 05/01/2008 21:45:01
Randi making a good point about White guilt.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 21:48:22
HEy, is that Rehab a part of the University of Pheonix Teaching Medical Center!?!?!
And yes, I agree, rehab's seem to be used by many people for a get out of jail free card.
Raine on 05/01/2008 21:48:22
Quote by IzzyBitz:
And yes, I agree, rehab's seem to be used by many people for a get out of jail free card.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 22:21:02
IzzyBitz on 05/01/2008 22:21:02
Yes, it is. David Hassellhof is their star patient!
The city is trimming their trees today and leaving a bit of a mess.
The city is trimming their trees today and leaving a bit of a mess.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:23:38
Ain't dat the truth. I guess there is the special Gay Hooker and Meth rehab to prevent the gay from coming back on so that he can love his wife.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:23:38
Quote by Raine:HEy, is that Rehab a part of the University of Pheonix Teaching Medical Center!?!?!Quote by IzzyBitz:
And yes, I agree, rehab's seem to be used by many people for a get out of jail free card.
Ain't dat the truth. I guess there is the special Gay Hooker and Meth rehab to prevent the gay from coming back on so that he can love his wife.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:29:52
livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:29:52
I saw an e-mail of the Air America Afternoons lineup and here's what's coming up if Randi drives you nuts.
Next week (May 5-9);
Sam Seder (Monday & Wednesday), Marc Maron (Tuesday, Thursday, & Friday)
Week of May 12: Ron Reagan
Week of May 19: Ron Kuby (formerly of WABC)- He used to work with Bill Kunstler's office.
Next week (May 5-9);
Sam Seder (Monday & Wednesday), Marc Maron (Tuesday, Thursday, & Friday)
Week of May 12: Ron Reagan
Week of May 19: Ron Kuby (formerly of WABC)- He used to work with Bill Kunstler's office.
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 22:35:35
Raine on 05/01/2008 22:35:35
I might be enticed to listen to AAR again..
KEY WORD: MIGHT.
I would rather watch the sammy cam first.
In other news... I am making my homeade Chicken Parm tonite. That includes the homeade sauce. Sorry, I didn't make the bread or the cheez...
KEY WORD: MIGHT.
I would rather watch the sammy cam first.
In other news... I am making my homeade Chicken Parm tonite. That includes the homeade sauce. Sorry, I didn't make the bread or the cheez...
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 22:36:56
funny how they unceremoniously shit-canned Maron, but yet he's their go-to guy when they're in a pinch...
BobR on 05/01/2008 22:36:56
Quote by livingonli:
I saw an e-mail of the Air America Afternoons lineup and here's what's coming up if Randi drives you nuts.
Next week (May 5-9);
Sam Seder (Monday & Wednesday), Marc Maron (Tuesday, Thursday, & Friday)
Week of May 12: Ron Reagan
Week of May 19: Ron Kuby (formerly of WABC)- He used to work with Bill Kunstler's office.
funny how they unceremoniously shit-canned Maron, but yet he's their go-to guy when they're in a pinch...
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:41:02
I will watch the Sammy Cam until I have to leave for work and then on the drive to work I can flip between WWRL and XM.
livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:41:02
Quote by Raine:
I might be enticed to listen to AAR again..
KEY WORD: MIGHT.
I would rather watch the sammy cam first.
In other news... I am making my homeade Chicken Parm tonite. That includes the homeade sauce. Sorry, I didn't make the bread or the cheez...
I will watch the Sammy Cam until I have to leave for work and then on the drive to work I can flip between WWRL and XM.
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:43:40
livingonli on 05/01/2008 22:43:40
It sounds like Raine's dinner alone is worth the trip to Atlanta. 
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 22:44:37
Raine on 05/01/2008 22:44:37
Cheezus crisp... Sydney Blumental?
just a snip:
Enough. These tactics are just too republican for me. No one deserves the office of president if thier supporters are willing to drop to these levels.
just a snip:
To cite just one recent example, Blumenthal circulated an article taken from the fervently hard-right AIM website on February 18 entitled, "Obama's Communist Mentor" by Cliff Kincaid. Kincaid is a right-wing writer and activist, a longtime critic of the United Nations, whose group, America's Survival, has been funded by foundations controlled by conservative financier Richard Mellon Scaife, the same millionaire who helped fund attacks on the Clintons during their White House years. Scaife also funds AIM, the right-wing media "watchdog" group.
The Kincaid article that Blumenthal circulated sought to discredit Obama by linking him to an African-American poet and writer whom Obama knew while he was in high school in Hawaii. That writer, Frank Marshall Davis, was, Kincaid wrote, a member of the Communist Party. Supported by no tangible evidence, Kincaid claimed that Obama considered his relationship to Davis to be "almost like a son." In his memoir, Dreams from My Father, Obama wrote about meeting, during his teenage years, a writer named "Frank" who "had some modest notoriety once" and with whom he occasionally discussed poetry and politics. From this snippet, Kincaid weaves an incredulous tale that turns Davis into Obama's "mentor."
Kincaid's piece had been previously circulating within the right-wing blogosphere, but Blumenthal sought to inject the story into more respectable opinion circles by amplifying it in his email blast.
Enough. These tactics are just too republican for me. No one deserves the office of president if thier supporters are willing to drop to these levels.
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 22:52:08
BobR on 05/01/2008 22:52:08
this is a test of the new strikethru button
Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 22:52:41
:banana:
BobR on 05/01/2008 22:52:41
Quote by BobR:
this is a test of the newstrikethrubutton
:banana:
Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 23:09:05
livingonli on 05/01/2008 23:09:05
Ooh, neat. A new toy.
We're recording the Versus telecast of Game 4 of Rangers-Penguins for late night replay. It's do or die for the Rangers.
We're recording the Versus telecast of Game 4 of Rangers-Penguins for late night replay. It's do or die for the Rangers.
Comment by Raine on 05/02/2008 00:02:36
Raine on 05/02/2008 00:02:36
:thud:
Baptist minister asks McCain, did you call your wife a c*unt?
**** WARNING Video is NOT edited ****
Details from HuffPo, here.
Baptist minister asks McCain, did you call your wife a c*unt?
**** WARNING Video is NOT edited ****
Details from HuffPo, here.
Comment by BobR on 05/02/2008 00:31:45
I added a comment to the Blog Features post. Note that I also added list capabilities for blog posts (only).
BobR on 05/02/2008 00:31:45
Quote by BobR:
this is a test of the newstrikethrubutton
I added a comment to the Blog Features post. Note that I also added list capabilities for blog posts (only).
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 00:52:50
velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 00:52:50
Comment by Raine on 05/02/2008 01:09:07
Raine on 05/02/2008 01:09:07
Comment by Raine on 05/02/2008 01:14:57
Raine on 05/02/2008 01:14:57
well here we go... Obama suppoerters are eleitists again, according to Bill:
i Hi, I'm Madonna.
From the AP.
Former President Bill Clinton was in West Virginia on his wife's behalf. In Clarksburg, he called her a scrapper and contrasted her appeal among working-class voters with the elitists he said support Obama.
"The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules," he said. "In West Virginia and Arkansas, we know that when we see it."
From the AP.
Comment by Raine on 05/02/2008 01:17:38
Dear god.
Who made this decision? Seriously, EXACTLY WHOM!?!?!
What person decided that he needed to get a flag? And who approved that choice?
IDIOCRACY, man. We are there.
Raine on 05/02/2008 01:17:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
Has anyone posted this yet?
Look whose on the terror watch list:
NELSON MANDELA!!!
:thud:
Who made this decision? Seriously, EXACTLY WHOM!?!?!
What person decided that he needed to get a flag? And who approved that choice?
IDIOCRACY, man. We are there.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 01:33:31
Cheney and Raygun! Remember when those uppity black folks in South Africa wanted some voice in the government - because they were the MAJORITY? And the US called them (The ANC) ............
Terrorists!
:thud:
velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 01:33:31
Quote by Raine:Dear god.Quote by velveeta jones:
Has anyone posted this yet?
Look whose on the terror watch list:
NELSON MANDELA!!!
:thud:
Who made this decision? Seriously, EXACTLY WHOM!?!?!
What person decided that he needed to get a flag? And who approved that choice?
IDIOCRACY, man. We are there.
Cheney and Raygun! Remember when those uppity black folks in South Africa wanted some voice in the government - because they were the MAJORITY? And the US called them (The ANC) ............
Terrorists!
:thud:
Comment by TriSec on 05/02/2008 01:35:27
TriSec on 05/02/2008 01:35:27
Double lurkage...:ph34r:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 01:35:41
velveeta jones on 05/02/2008 01:35:41
Finally!!! I can be an elitist!
Whoops, guess I can't do that ^^^^ anymore, now that I'm all elitee and all............
:lol:
Whoops, guess I can't do that ^^^^ anymore, now that I'm all elitee and all............
:lol:
Comment by livingonli on 05/02/2008 01:36:27
When Dick Cheney was a Congressman in the 80's when he was a supporter of the racist apartheid regime he was one of those weasels saying that Mandela and the ANC were a terrorist organization. I guess old shit never dies.
livingonli on 05/02/2008 01:36:27
Quote by velveeta jones:
Has anyone posted this yet?
Look whose on the terror watch list:
NELSON MANDELA!!!
:thud:
When Dick Cheney was a Congressman in the 80's when he was a supporter of the racist apartheid regime he was one of those weasels saying that Mandela and the ANC were a terrorist organization. I guess old shit never dies.
Comment by livingonli on 05/02/2008 01:38:17
livingonli on 05/02/2008 01:38:17
Rangers are leading 2-0 in the final minute and a half. Looks like we got another game on Sunday (which will be on NBC).