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Has it already started??? AT&T Blocking e-mails?
Author: right wing hater    Date: 05/05/2008 20:17:16

Hey Everyone...this is really unnerving (to say the least)

I post the Daily Reading every morning to the Forum on this site (and I always send it to my bellsouth account (the 'new AT&T' - ie unstoppable monopolistic juggernaut) as well as to a small mailing list (7 addresses - including Raine's yay!)...

Well, I thought something was up this morning, when I didn't see that it went through (from bellsouth to bellsouth) so I sent it to my AOL account from bellsouth and vice versa...to see if it will send it....Nada. Corrupt text/code...nope created brand new e-mails...same thing 3x.

I remember reading a couple of months back that AT&T would become a 'filter police' filtering/monitoring packets etc...under the cloak of 'piracy prevention'. Now for those of you who get into torrents, etc....you know that means you.

We already knew these (insert words here) were illegally accumulating data for the Bush crime family (ala San Francisco whistleblower who has made the rounds)...

Well...I look at their 'new guidelines' and apparently they are content filtering now....

Now...if an e-mail advocates for an illegal action, ok I'll bite...but the thought police enter into the equation here, which I am 100% against.
I can understand them filtering for 'profanity', 'inappropriate content' yada yada yada...but this seriously infringes upon freedom of speech. Once again, I'm an adult (at least in age, maybe not in practice 24-7, 365...) and there was none of the above, in fact you can go to the Forum and see exactly what I cut & paste everday....tell me if that violates any 'terms of use' you've ever seen....

Now...how many of those of you remember "NET NEUTRALITY" and the amazing grass roots stir & headlines it garnered during the run up to the 2006 election, it became a hot button issue and for all intensive purposes we 'won' and it became taken for granted. So when you see those petitions...please take those 10 seconds to do them.

I just got off the phone with them (supervisor) who wanted me to forward the message to their server team, ok, I'll play ball for now...but if by the end of this week this isn't resolved (he stated 48 hours - and yes he asked for a summary of the 'content'), then AT&T can kiss this customer good bye.

And HughesNet (satellite DSL) will have a new customer...

Talk about a Police State, hopefully this is an isolated incident, if not....I may take this and run a campaign against them...

Feel free to offer any suggestions or add anything

BTW: Raine...did you receive my daily in your comcast inbox today?

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Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 20:29:57
HEYA RWH! I got your daily today, yes, It was not from a bellsouth addee tho...

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 20:31:21
I am passing this Post to other sights.







Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 20:53:52
Also, RWH, if you get those petittions, POST THEM HERE on the blog.



I know we don't have a lot of people who post, but we DO have people who read, and kinda lurk (HI STAN! :boobs2:)







Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 21:23:28
OK< Stupid moment of the day. Bobber called me from work, they have the Faux news on (muted) there. The ticker said:



If Mexico doesn't celebrate teh 4th of July, why should America CElebrate Cinco de Mayo?



Please, Feel free to discuss all the idiocratic things about this statement.

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 21:34:37
I have Cablevision (Optimum Online) for my internet provider and I really have not had a problem with my e-mail being blocked. I'm not sure if they have been in the NSA crap but I really haven't heard. The other high-speed provider is Verizon FiOS and they were involved in the NSA wiretapping issue. I do have Verizon for FiOS TV and wireless and they are good products but I don't deal with e-mail through them so I just have to worry about phone calls.

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 21:48:06
Comment by right wing hater on 05/05/2008 21:55:11
Thanks Raine!



I'm home now and will do some more tests....will keep everyone updated on this.



I dropped Verizon like a bad habit (thankfully I wasn't under contract with them) when the spygate news first came out 2 1/2 years ago. I'm going with T-mobile for Cell service, they're a German based company and I KNOW they didn't provide info, much like Qwest.



Right now...there aren't a whole lot of petitions...as the telecoms were 'defeated' for the time being....



However, this doesn't extend to their own internal systems (ie, e-mail, etc) the functions under their umbrella. They can't extort Amazon, Buyblue.org, etc (Net Neutrality vs Net Extortion) but they can according to their terms of use 'filter content'....

Comment by right wing hater on 05/05/2008 22:13:28
Very interesting....



Okay....I was able to send every single linked article except for the following, and I sent this from bellsouth.net/att.net to bellsouth.net/att.net and from AOL to bellsouth and vice versa.....each time....NADA.



Why is ATT blocking this one???



MUST READ: Twilight of American Empire - http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/05/twilight-of-american-empire.html

The fall of the American empire resembles that of Rome in several areas but primarily --military and economic. The economies of the US and Rome ultimately depended on conquest.

By the time the Roman Empire was sold at auction to one Didius Julianus, Rome's currency had already collapsed, as the dollar is likewise endangered.

It's oil and because Iran would prefer to sell oil for Euros, nations wishing to buy oil must exchange their dollars for Euros.

CHECK OUT 'AMERICA BY THE NUMBERS' Gore Vidal dates the end of the American empire to a time during the Reagan administration when the US became a net debtor nation.



Comment by right wing hater on 05/05/2008 22:14:12
By the way....I sent this one all by itself...with a simple subject of 'link'....

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 22:19:45
Quote by right wing hater:

Very interesting....



Okay....I was able to send every single linked article except for the following, and I sent this from bellsouth.net/att.net to bellsouth.net/att.net and from AOL to bellsouth and vice versa.....each time....NADA.



Why is ATT blocking this one???



MUST READ: Twilight of American Empire - http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/05/twilight-of-american-empire.html

The fall of the American empire resembles that of Rome in several areas but primarily --military and economic. The economies of the US and Rome ultimately depended on conquest.

By the time the Roman Empire was sold at auction to one Didius Julianus, Rome's currency had already collapsed, as the dollar is likewise endangered.

It's oil and because Iran would prefer to sell oil for Euros, nations wishing to buy oil must exchange their dollars for Euros.

CHECK OUT 'AMERICA BY THE NUMBERS' Gore Vidal dates the end of the American empire to a time during the Reagan administration when the US became a net debtor nation.

:thud:







Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 22:21:09
BTW, RWH, if you are wondering about the colour, it a celebration for Cinco de Mayo!

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 22:21:14
If Obama doesn't get the nomination, maybe I should just move to Canada anyway.

Comment by right wing hater on 05/05/2008 22:23:26
Sorry Happy Cinco everyone!



Even in the land of selective e-mail propagation....



Hey Living.....

Watch tomorrow....I don't even think the Limbaugh Dittoheads will be able to ruin Indiana....



If Obama gets a 60/40 split, its already been over...at that point, Hillary is crossing into Nader dementia territory...

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 22:29:47
At times Hillary seems to already have crossed over into Nader or possibly even Bush dementia territory.

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 22:30:23
I think we will start a primary watching blog at around 8 pm tomorrow.



Wait, when does NC polls close? I think we will open one up about an hour before then.







Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 22:32:52
ok, it seems as tho the polls in NC close at 730 pm, so how about we (whover is around) open a 7 pm primary blog?



I am REALLY nervous about tomorrow. RWH, our own Velveeta Jones and her wife have been working in NC at the obama campaign! woohoo!

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 22:38:34
From Gas tax scam.com: (hat tip AmericaBlog/Posted at open Left: )

This draft email by John McCain and Hillary Clinton was recently leaked. Read more and sign the open letter at GasTaxScam.com.



CONFIDENTIAL/URGENT POLITICAL PROPOSAL

Dear Sir



First we must solicit your confidence in this issue. This is by virtue as being utterly confidential and "top secret".



We are SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON, the wife of the former United States head of state, PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, and also SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, friend and associate of current head of state PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH. We got your contact through business inquiries as we were searching for contacts of a citizen who can help save our and our family's political careers since our country has been frustrating us.



We are top officials of the United States Senate Government who are interested in importation of oil into our country with funds that are presently trapped in the FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND dedicated to improving transportation. We wish to send this money to overseas accounts in the MIDDLE EAST but cannot due to restrictions in Congress Transportation Equity Act requiring that this money must be spent to build roads, bridges and high speed trains.



If you accept we will deliver to your a sum of 30 DOLLARS in the summer 2008 in form of a "GAS TAX HOLIDAY". You will then deliver this money to accounts of our friends in Middle East by taking it to your nearby gasoline station where they have information to forward the money. Please supply your bank account, social security number, address and your vote in DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES AND NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.



But bear in mind that this transaction requires absolute confidentiality. Do not visit WWW.GASTAXSCAM.COM where there is information about dangers of our proposal and a petition to stop us from this diversion of funds.



PLEASE NOTIFY US URGENTLY OF YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PROPOSAL



Awaiting your rapid response



Yours truly



SENATORS HILLARY CLINTON AND JOHN MCCAIN


You can express your outrage at McCain and Clinton's shameless scam for votes at GasTaxScam.com.


================================================



Unf*ckingbelievable.















SHITE: Forgot to add: edited ;)











Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 22:49:36
So Mondo took a Federally mandated mental health day, thanks Bubba for FMLA. I decided I would take in a Summer Blockbuster! That can mean one thing, "Ironman.' Like Velveeta, I liked it. It is a very good popcorn movie. The best special effect in the picture has to be Gwynth Paltrow running in a tight skirt and stiletto heels on a metal catwalk! That might be a super power, I'm not sure.

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:11:59
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 23:15:41




So, the Edwards and I have something in common. How come I don't get my name in the paper?

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:20:08
You don't have superdelagates?



Or his fabu hair?



:rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 23:25:12
Quote by Raine:

You don't have superdelagates?



Or his fabu hair?



:rofl:






:shrug: Geez I must not be a fancy pants elitist then. I don't have fabu hair or nuttin!

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:25:25
Mondo, I love, you know I love...

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:26:12
Why did Edwards "suspend" his campaign? :(



It seemed like the press marganalized him as much as Kucinich. If you look at Obama's record he has been a little too centrist at times. What makes me put Obama before Hillary at this point is his opposition to the war and that he hasn't gone with the low-blow tactics like Hillary has done.

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:27:16
you have a house!



But what you need is a superdelagate. THAT is what you need to get into people mag, I think.





Honestly, I found it strange that they went to 'people' about this one.



Damn populists.

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:27:45
Awkward man hug for Mondo.

Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:28:32
Quote by livingonli:

Why did Edwards "suspend" his campaign? :(



It seemed like the press marganalized him as much as Kucinich. If you look at Obama's record he has been a little too centrist at times. What makes me put Obama before Hillary at this point is his opposition to the war and that he hasn't gone with the low-blow tactics like Hillary has done.
I still think it was Elizabeth's health.





Comment by Raine on 05/05/2008 23:30:03
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

You don't have superdelagates?



Or his fabu hair?



:rofl:






:shrug: Geez I must not be a fancy pants elitist then. I don't have fabu hair or nuttin!
You have a fabu sense of humour, and a wicked streak that would make both obama and Hills cry out loud.



Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:31:17
They don't want to say it but you are probably right, Raine.



Maybe someone will put Gore in, but I really don't think he wants to run for office anymore.

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:41:23
Did I stun the blog?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 23:43:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

You don't have superdelagates?



Or his fabu hair?



:rofl:






:shrug: Geez I must not be a fancy pants elitist then. I don't have fabu hair or nuttin!
You have a fabu sense of humour, and a wicked streak that would make both obama and Hills cry out loud.







yeah there is that. But since I am an athiest, there is no way anybody would vote for me besides you guys.

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:50:55
It's BS for people to say they won't vote for an athiest. It doesn't matter to me and atheists can be just as moral as anyone else. Look at the hypocrisy from some of these so-called "Christians".

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 23:55:45
Livin, so Ironman? Yes, no.

Comment by livingonli on 05/05/2008 23:57:49
I didn't go this weekend. Too much other stuff to do. But I will go this weekend.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/05/2008 23:59:54
Quote by livingonli:

I didn't go this weekend. Too much other stuff to do. But I will go this weekend.






I, Mondo, liked it.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 00:03:22
I saw it got 94% at Rotten Tomatoes. At least Marvel got one thing right with their characters besides Spider-Man and X-Men since everyone wants to forget the Hulk, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:05:23
Quote by Raine:

you have a house!



But what you need is a superdelagate. THAT is what you need to get into people mag, I think.





Honestly, I found it strange that they went to 'people' about this one.



Damn populists.






:sprinkles holy water on Raine: :Emril: Bam! You are my super delegate.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 00:07:03
Time for Livin' to take his dinner break. Talk to y'all when I get back.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 00:07:09
KO skewering Clinton over the Gas tax issue.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 00:08:40
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

you have a house!



But what you need is a superdelagate. THAT is what you need to get into people mag, I think.





Honestly, I found it strange that they went to 'people' about this one.



Damn populists.






:sprinkles holy water on Raine: :Emril: Bam! You are my super delegate.
:rofl:



I feel like Ray Nagin! (note: google "add-on delegates")



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:09:39
Quote by Raine:

KO skewering Clinton over the Gas tax issue.




As he should be. The gas tax thing is such a massive pant load.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 00:12:56
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

you have a house!



But what you need is a superdelagate. THAT is what you need to get into people mag, I think.





Honestly, I found it strange that they went to 'people' about this one.



Damn populists.






:sprinkles holy water on Raine: :Emril: Bam! You are my super delegate.
:rofl:



I feel like Ray Nagin! (note: google "add-on delegates")

Oh. wait ...



Emril got cancelled!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:15:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

you have a house!



But what you need is a superdelagate. THAT is what you need to get into people mag, I think.





Honestly, I found it strange that they went to 'people' about this one.



Damn populists.






:sprinkles holy water on Raine: :Emril: Bam! You are my super delegate.
:rofl:



I feel like Ray Nagin! (note: google "add-on delegates")

Oh. wait ...



Emril got cancelled!!





He is still deeply embedded in the matrix of popular culture. So there! :p:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:17:07
Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.

Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 00:25:54
Quote by Raine:

OK< Stupid moment of the day. Bobber called me from work, they have the Faux news on (muted) there. The ticker said:



If Mexico doesn't celebrate teh 4th of July, why should America CElebrate Cinco de Mayo?



Please, Feel free to discuss all the idiocratic things about this statement.




:rofl:



what does cinqo de mayo even mean? i thought it was just a day to drink. . . kind of like the 4th of july.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:27:36
:star: darling! How are you, it has been simply ages!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:38:14
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

OK< Stupid moment of the day. Bobber called me from work, they have the Faux news on (muted) there. The ticker said:



If Mexico doesn't celebrate teh 4th of July, why should America CElebrate Cinco de Mayo?



Please, Feel free to discuss all the idiocratic things about this statement.




:rofl:



what does cinqo de mayo even mean? i thought it was just a day to drink. . . kind of like the 4th of july.






All about Cinco De Mayo, note it is not Mexican Independence Day

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 00:51:05
For some reason these two have been on my mind.



Francesca Fiore and Bruno Puntz Jones

Francesca Fiore and Bruno Puntz Jones (played by Scott Thompson and Dave Foley, respectively) are a pair of fast-living, glamorous movie stars. Though they originally hail from South America, their films have a decidedly European flavor. Francesca Fiore is fiery and passionate, and tends to be very overdramatic and expressive in her actions. Bruno Puntz Jones (who always wears a white suit and a Panama hat) is very cool and reserved, but inwardly seems to share Francesca's spirit. Bruno occasionally likes to play Russian Roulette alone, a practice he refers to dismissively as "my little game." He is also prone to shooting people with little or no warning, usually when he feels Francesca is being threatened. The two always play lovers in their films together; they seem to be romantically involved in real life as well, though the exact relationship between them is not made clear. In one sketch, Bruno claims he and Francesca have been married since he was 12 and she was 26, which would also indicate Francesca is several years older than Bruno. According to the crew, Foley's character was originally named Bruno Puntz, but when the writers decided to change his last name to Jones, they wrote the word "Jones" in without deleting "Puntz," thereby accidentally creating the full name of the character.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:04:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 01:05:37
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:




Came back to me when I anointed you as my super-duper-extra special deligate

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:08:02
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

OK< Stupid moment of the day. Bobber called me from work, they have the Faux news on (muted) there. The ticker said:



If Mexico doesn't celebrate teh 4th of July, why should America CElebrate Cinco de Mayo?



Please, Feel free to discuss all the idiocratic things about this statement.




:rofl:



what does cinqo de mayo even mean? i thought it was just a day to drink. . . kind of like the 4th of july.
Does celebrate the 4th of July?



Does germany celbrate it as well?

I will NEVER give up St. Patty's day or Oktoberfest.



AND.. I will embrace Cinco De MAyo even more than EVER before! ARRRRIBA!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:10:16
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:




Came back to me when I anointed you as my super-duper-extra special deligate
Hellova campaign you are runnin' there Mondo!! :rofl:







Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 01:11:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:




Came back to me when I anointed you as my super-duper-extra special deligate
Hellova campaign you are runnin' there Mondo!! :rofl:











I need a campaign manager. Star, you want the job?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 01:19:19
Anybody

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 01:31:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:


I forgot about that slogan as well. You need to get out there.



Wasn't mgm going to work on the campaign?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 01:34:33
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Damn, I forgot I was running for president! Vote Mondo 08, a desperate man for desperate times.


:rofl:



I forgot as well!!! :belly laugh: :rofl:


I forgot about that slogan as well. You need to get out there.



Wasn't mgm going to work on the campaign?






Yeah I think he was. :scratchhead:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:38:22
I think I volunteered for something as well.



Oh hell of an organization ya got there mondo!



We REALLY are like herding cats.



I say, go to Mala. She has a track record of herding us cats.







Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 01:41:00
Quote by Raine:

I think I volunteered for something as well.



Oh hell of an organization ya got there mondo!



We REALLY are like herding cats.



I say, go to Mala. She has a track record of herding us cats.







True Dat!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:42:18
:rofl:



MondoBubba '08.



" the forgotten, the best, the most hopeful, presidential race EVER to not be followed up in the history of the world."



It makes Goldwater/Miller '08 look good.



:rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 01:42:24


Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:46:37
I wish we had the AAP blog archives around.. I am trying to remeber who the VP was.



I think IT may have been SSG , and I was supposed to be your campaign manager.. or it was the other way around.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:47:03
TRI! wassup?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 01:48:13
10 minutes, and I may actually get a pair of flip flops that I have been looking for for 2 years.



Pray for the auction to go well!!!





Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 01:53:06
Quote by Raine:

I wish we had the AAP blog archives around.. I am trying to remeber who the VP was.



I think IT may have been SSG , and I was supposed to be your campaign manager.. or it was the other way around.


I have to find out about that. It vanished when they moved to the new server. There is only the message board now. I hope they kept it someplace. It would be sad to no longer be able to read those great moments.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 01:53:35
Quote by Raine:

10 minutes, and I may actually get a pair of flip flops that I have been looking for for 2 years.



Pray for the auction to go well!!!





Is this on eBay?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 01:59:27
Quote by Raine:

I think I volunteered for something as well.



Oh hell of an organization ya got there mondo!



We REALLY are like herding cats.



I say, go to Mala. She has a track record of herding us cats.









I go with the best! Somebody alert the media! Mala where is she when we need her skillz?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 02:02:33
Comment by MMB on 05/06/2008 02:05:50
I think i will just write in for prez my cat. He has a great sense of humour and is fair,compassionate,loving and well qualified. He is the #1 man a little short but he makes up for it with his attitude!! He thinks he is 10 feet tall. My dad is slowly getting better tons of Vancomycin

Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 02:13:52
*grunt*



Pack Committee meeting tonight....we had to have two, one with the full committee, then a second one with a parent that always has to have the last word.



Ah, the downside of Scouting....the parents.





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 02:15:28
Quote by TriSec:

*grunt*



Pack Committee meeting tonight....we had to have two, one with the full committee, then a second one with a parent that always has to have the last word.



Ah, the downside of Scouting....the parents.







Ahhh yes the parents. They think they know better than the trained volunteers.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 02:27:17
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

I think I volunteered for something as well.



Oh hell of an organization ya got there mondo!



We REALLY are like herding cats.



I say, go to Mala. She has a track record of herding us cats.









I go with the best! Somebody alert the media! Mala where is she when we need her skillz?




Somebody has to tell her in the morning.