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Author: TriSec    Date: 05/13/2008 10:40:01

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,882nd day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4076
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3937
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3615
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3217
Since Election (1/31/05): 2639

Other Coalition Troops: 312
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 501


We find this morning's cost of war passing through $ 519,208,725,000.00

Do go and look at the counter for a moment if you have the chance...it's strangely mesmerizing to watch how fast our future is being spent.


Turning to our friends at IAVA, we find that a vote on the new GI bill has been delayed. Not by the Republicans this time, but by a small group of "Blue Dog Democrats". Paul Rieckoff's entry on Facebook has more about the bill and ways you can help.

NEW YORK -Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), the nation's first and largest nonpartisan Iraq and Afghanistan veterans' group, demands that the few hold-out Democrats stop delaying the "Post-9/11 GI Bill." The new GI Bill has been included in the war supplemental funding bill, but a House vote on the measure was postponed last week due to an outcry from a small group of Democrats who oppose paying for veterans' educational benefits through supplemental funding. The vote should happen later this week.

"The GI Bill is a cost of war as much as any other expenditure in the supplemental," said Paul Rieckhoff, Executive Director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "Any member of Congress who votes for a $170 billion dollar war bill and then votes against the GI Bill is nickel-and-diming our troops. Veterans of all generations will be outraged by that decision."

"The Post-9/11 GI Bill," originally introduced in the Senate by a bipartisan coalition of combat veterans including Senators Jim Webb (D-VA), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) and John Warner (R-VA), has the endorsement of every major Veterans Service Organization, as well as the overwhelming bipartisan support of more than 330 Senators and Representatives. Yet last week, Representative John Tanner (D-TN), a member of the Blue Dog Democrats, made an insulting and flippant comment about the legislation. In an interview, Tanner remarked, "some of us oppose creating a new entitlement program in an emergency spending bill, whether it's butchers, bakers or candlestick makers."

"Comparing our troops to candlestick makers is insulting and counterproductive. Furthermore, the notion that the GI Bill is a new entitlement is ludicrous. It has existed for more than 60 years. The bill before Congress simply updates the program so it actually covers the current cost of college," said Rieckhoff. "IAVA and its tens of thousands of members nationwide demand that Representative Tanner and all lawmakers vote to fund a new GI Bill. For all of the members of the House of Representatives who say they support the troops, this is the time to put their money where their mouth is."

This week, IAVA is urging its national membership to call their local representatives and demand that they support a new GI Bill. Much more information is at www.GIBill2008.org



Of course, taking care of our veterans is going to be critical in the coming decades, as thanks to many medical advances, many warriors who would have died previously are now surviving, often with grievous injuries.
WASHINGTON - Increasing numbers of U.S. troops have left the military with damaged bodies and minds, an ever-larger pool of disabled veterans that will cost the nation billions for decades to come — even as the total population of America’s vets shrinks.

Despite the decline in total vets — as soldiers from World War II and Korea die — the government expects to be spending $59 billion a year to compensate injured warriors in 25 years, up from today’s $29 billion, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. And the Veterans Affairs Department concedes the bill could be much higher.

Why?

Worse wounds. More disabilities. More vets aware of the benefits and quicker to file for them.

Also, ironically, advanced medical care. Troops come home with devastating injuries that might well have killed them in earlier wars.

Time is also a factor when it comes to disability compensation costs. Payments tend to go up as veterans age, and an increasing number of soldiers from the Vietnam War will be getting bigger payments as they get older and are less able to work around their disabilities.

‘A cost of war’
The number of disabled veterans has jumped by 25 percent since 2001 — to 2.9 million — and the cause really is no mystery.

“This is a cost of war,” says Steve Smithson, a deputy director at the American Legion. “We’re still producing veterans. We’ve been in a war in Iraq for five years now, and the war on terror since 9/11.”

VA and Census Bureau figures show the previous six-year period, before hostilities in Afghanistan and Iraq, saw a more modest increase of 4 percent in the number of disabled vets. Veterans can make claims for disability benefits long after their military service has ended.

Today’s veterans — disabled or not — number nearly 24 million. That population is projected by the VA to fall under 15 million by 2033, mostly because of dying World War II and Korean War vets. But costs are expected to rise.

Inflation accounts for a big chunk of the increase. But even when the VA factors out inflation, the compensation for disabled veterans would still grow from $29 billion to $33 billion in today’s dollars — a more than 10 percent increase. And the department acknowledges the estimate could rise by 30 percent.

VA officials were not eager to talk about reasons for the increases. They declined several requests for interviews. In a written response to a handful of questions, the agency noted a few factors at play in the rising costs, such as the aging veterans population, an increase in the number of disabilities claimed and the severity of injuries sustained.



I'll leave you this morning with an alarming story from the Daily Telegraph (UK). The British sector in Southern Iraq has generally avoided the troubles in and around Baghdad, mostly because the Brits have been slowly withdrawing and turning things over to local control. You'd think that Uncle Sam would congatulate the British and try to emulate what they've been doing. But because this is counter to US strategy in Iraq, we've declared the British "delusional" and are preparing to move in our own troops. I kid you not.




A senior US officer has told the Telegraph that Iraqi troops had not been ready to assume responsibility for Basra when British forces withdrew late last year.

He also said that US commanders in Iraq believe the Shia south is ready to copy the developments that transformed the western province of Anbar from being the main hotbed of insurgency into one of Iraq's most peaceful regions. To foster this change, US troops are moving south for the first time since the 2003 war.

"There's going to be a whole new approach when we send troops down there," said the US officer.
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"We won't take the self-delusional route of convincing ourselves that the Iraqis are ready to fight but then standing back while they fall apart.

"They're not ready and we have to be more proactive. There's too much at stake."

Britain has been in charge of four provinces in southern Iraq since Saddam Hussein's downfall. While the divisional command will continue to operate under British leadership at Basra airbase, the orders of the US units will be to "get out front" and resume patrols and combat missions.

US hopes of making the whole of Iraq secure before its eventual withdrawal have been raised by what commanders see as a potential southern version of the Sahwa, or tribal awakening, which turned locals against al-Qa'eda.

Troops have been shifted from Anbar province to the Tallil airbase, Nasiriya, to assume responsibility from 550 Australian troops pulling out of the country.

According to the US assessment, the Australians followed the mistakes of the British by pulling back to "overwatch" local forces but then neglecting the security challenges in the area.

The US officer said its allies had adopted a "University of Arizona" attitude - American slang for being rigid and unimaginative. "There's dirty work to be done and we've got to go forward to it," he said.


England is about our only ally left...and we've just called them 'delusional'. Methinks this doesn't bode well.


 

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Comment by right wing hater on 05/13/2008 12:34:12
Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in the Forum.



Highlights/lowlights:

Republican War on Science & Reality Updates:

- Bush crime family hiding DSCOVR satellite system that could once and for all end honest debate over climate crisis & its causes (NASA built it and was ready to launch - Bush canceled it and project until 2009...gee...wonder why)

- Fox Noise & Drudge (sweet boy) smear Gore & patch clips together to 'inform' their viewership...

- Autism cases in court linking mercury laced vaccines to the epidemic

- Infrastructure in US crumbles from Bush 'tax cuts'....

- 'War on terror' scam update, spying of all citizens goes up while court cases go down...hmm...all the spying without the actual prosecution...hmm....

- Johnathan Alter, Obama's ace in the hole, 1.5 million individual donor base...

Superdelegates taking notice....could reach 3 million by November...

Comment by right wing hater on 05/13/2008 12:35:23
Oh and along TriSecs post...



'Cremate the Freight' also in daily reading....

How Bush Crime Family & 'Rummy' decided to cremate the troops in a pet cemetary to save $$...

Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 12:49:50
Morning all! + = :prince:



I thought that England was starting to withdraw its troops from Iraq.. Is that now delayed or is El Gordo Brown turning out to be not so much different from his ol' chum Tony Blair?

Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 12:54:14
Morning all!



Great post, TriSec. I cannot believe the final cited article! Didn't the Bush administration declare the scale-down of British troops in the south evidence of "progess" in Iraq?

Comment by m-hadley on 05/13/2008 13:01:11
Morning Everyone :coffee:

Just passing through this morning - lots of works this week - just wanted to say hey Have a great day! :hugs:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/13/2008 13:05:44
Ugh!



The continuing saga......... continues. Yesterday my fridge died. I come home last night to find my wife sitting in a dark house. Power throughout the neighborhood is out. *sigh* So here I sit in a coffee house.



Still............. I count my blessings. These are small inconveniences compared to what's going on in Burma and China and............

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:09:08
:rofl: Shano-O !!! OMG!!! :spit:

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:10:56
Good morning everyone!

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:12:52
Quote by velveeta jones:

Ugh!



The continuing saga......... continues. Yesterday my fridge died. I come home last night to find my wife sitting in a dark house. Power throughout the neighborhood is out. *sigh* So here I sit in a coffee house.



Still............. I count my blessings. These are small inconveniences compared to what's going on in Burma and China and............
:hug:





I hope the weather will be loverly today so you can soak up sun of the sun!



Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 13:14:00
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Shano-O !!! OMG!!! :spit:
I think Chris had the idea first - he did that song as the 6:46 SM Bump yesterday...



Comment by velveeta jones on 05/13/2008 13:19:23
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Ugh!



The continuing saga......... continues. Yesterday my fridge died. I come home last night to find my wife sitting in a dark house. Power throughout the neighborhood is out. *sigh* So here I sit in a coffee house.



Still............. I count my blessings. These are small inconveniences compared to what's going on in Burma and China and............
:hug:





I hope the weather will be loverly today so you can soak up sun of the sun!



Its cold.







But then again, that's good for keeping my food, in an ice chest, cold. *Le Sigh*



Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 13:22:38
So I heard about this anti-marijuana study today that states heavy marijuana use leads to severe heart disease.



Heavy marijuana use is defined as smoking 78 joints a week for 30 years or more.



No testing was done in regards to the effect of ingestion (either raw or cooked) or vaporizing an equivalent amount of marijuana. Also the study didn't cite the effect smoking that much weed (or smoking that much ANYTHING) would have on your lungs, nor the fact that there comes a point when smoking weed when you're not gonna be able to LIFT UP THE JOINT TO YOUR MOUTH ANYMORE.

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 13:28:01
Gee Scoop, in cigarette terms that's less than a pack a day. (3.9/week, to be exact.) Wonder if anyone has done a similar study about the effects of tobacco?





Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 13:29:54
naps for all!

Good morning, folks

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 13:30:01
Good morning folks.



Now I'm waiting for a video clip of Sean Hannity's temper tantrum. There has to be one out there even if it's not as priceless as Bill-O's.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:30:18
This one's for you Scoop...









Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 13:36:57
you need to find out about what's going on at your kid's school from O'REILLY? REALLY? that's sad.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 13:37:16
I think this caller is smoking some of the primo stuff.



The STD's are being spread from the misinformation of "abstinence" education.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:37:28
:thud: Donnie in Chicago... Oh dear...

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:39:07
Donnie... Donnie... Donnie...





Give ME some of that

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 13:40:08
Dude? Is that caller retarded?

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 13:43:48
Let's not forget Rush wants to see riots in Denver this summer.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/13/2008 13:43:50
Oh dear! Thanks for posting the Bill-O melt down. I missed this yesterday, what, with all my "trama" drama. Very funny!!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 13:45:26
Morning :hug:





Ark boarding has been suspended, we have acheived SUN!

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:49:34
:prince: Let's Groove tonite!!! :prince:

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 13:52:50
Good morning Mala. The sun's out here today too, but it is windy.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 13:57:29
Does anyone know what this woman looks like?

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 14:00:17
Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 14:00:49
Quote by Raine:

Donnie... Donnie... Donnie...





Give ME some of that


What's that? The test subject from the study I cited has escaped and started calling politalk shows?!

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:03:56
I must admit, regarding China I am negligent of knowing the geography. I know that the earthquake was in the Schezuan region, but I am wondering where the the olympics are being held.







Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:06:56
Quote by jd_in_ny:

kerry washington


She is gorgueos.



I wouldn't have recognized her.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:07:32
I believe the Olympics are in Beijing.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:09:16
:rofl: OMG, This is awesome too!









Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:12:18
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:12:53
Terry McAuliffe comes across to me like a used-car salesman.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:13:13
Good morning BobR.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:13:15
Quote by livingonli:

I believe the Olympics are in Beijing.


yes, but what region is Beijing in?

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 14:15:00
"full metal Tracy Flick" -- awesome.

It's sad that any democrat would HOPE that something damaging and terrible should come out about another democrat.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:16:27
A bar in Marietta, GA (a suburb of Atlanta) is catching flak for selling this T-shirt:

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/21/48/image_7048215.jpg




YA THINK????



Assholes!



EDIT: story here

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:16:51
KYLE!!!!



He sounds like Rudy!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 14:17:43
Kyle swallow a bug there at the end?

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:18:32
Quote by BobR:

A bar in Marietta, GA (a suburb of Atlanta) is catching flak for selling this T-shirt:

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/21/48/image_7048215.jpg




YA THINK????



Assholes!
HOLY CRAP!









Georgia. Where dumb retires.



Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:20:02
I am belly laughing here. LIEberman... the brokeback of John and Joe. :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:21:28
Der leader is asking people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.



Sounds republican to me. ;)

Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 14:22:04
Quote by BobR:

A bar in Marietta, GA (a suburb of Atlanta) is catching flak for selling this T-shirt:

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/21/48/image_7048215.jpg




YA THINK????



Assholes!



EDIT: story here






Gee can't imagine why...

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:22:14
All that bar owner needs is to put his confederate flag up to seal the deal.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:22:25
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning Mala. The sun's out here today too, but it is windy.


It was severely windy here on Sunday. About 9:00PM, it blew down a HUGE oak tree on a house just down the street, crushing half of the second floor and taking down the power lines.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:23:22
Quote by Raine:

I am belly laughing here. LIEberman... the brokeback of John and Joe. :rofl:


Why can't I quit you?...

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:31:01
Atlanta wind and ignorant barkeep killed the blog.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:31:41
Quote by livingonli:

Atlanta wind and ignorant barkeep killed the blog.


and salt.





why does it have to be salt? :: Captain Kirk ::

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:32:25
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

I am belly laughing here. LIEberman... the brokeback of John and Joe. :rofl:


Why can't I quit you?...


I SERIOUSLY have some photoshop work to do.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 14:32:49
Here's something that might help...

The big red dot is the quake's epicenter, yellow dots show aftershocks and the apparent fault line.



Beijing is in the upper right corner of the map.



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/skewpster/earthquakes.jpg


Comment by shelaghc on 05/13/2008 14:34:21
Quote by BobR:

A bar in Marietta, GA (a suburb of Atlanta) is catching flak for selling this T-shirt:

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/05/21/48/image_7048215.jpg




YA THINK????



Assholes!



EDIT: story here




But he's donating the proceeds to Muscular Dystrophy! Doesn't that make it okay?





Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:38:06
When it comes to the General Election and Obama...





:banana: b-b-b-b-bb-b-b aby you ain't seen nothing yet....:banana:



I am saying this now, Obama is going to show us a completely different campaign.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:38:26
What's with this caller?

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 14:38:51
um, this guy wasn't going to vote for a Dem anyway. Stop wasting my time.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:39:10
Right wing caller?



Noel... YES, vote DEMOCRAT>



The repugs did this.



F*ck you noel.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:40:53
Quote by jd_in_ny:

um, this guy wasn't going to vote for a Dem anyway. Stop wasting my time.


You are probably right. I need to stop getting worked up about these nitwits.







Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:40:56
Hi Shelagh. How's it going?

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:42:49
Quote by Scoopster:

Here's something that might help...

The big red dot is the quake's epicenter, yellow dots show aftershocks and the apparent fault line.



Beijing is in the upper right corner of the map.





Thanks Scoop.



Good to know that China can make this all go away for the Olympics... <_<







Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 14:43:47
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

um, this guy wasn't going to vote for a Dem anyway. Stop wasting my time.


You are probably right. I need to stop getting worked up about these nitwits.



it's hard, I know.



Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 14:44:45
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Here's something that might help...

The big red dot is the quake's epicenter, yellow dots show aftershocks and the apparent fault line.



Beijing is in the upper right corner of the map.





Thanks Scoop.



Good to know that China can make this all go away for the Olympics... <_<







They can just sweep it under the rug just like all those dissidents and Free Tibet protestors.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 14:47:44
n/t





http://yesterdayssalad.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/mccain_lieberman_hug.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 14:49:00
Kay fell down went boom

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 14:57:37
Quote by Raine:

n/t





http://yesterdayssalad.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/mccain_lieberman_hug.jpg


1: Is that a lump in your cheek or are you just happy to see me?



2: T-minus 2 seconds to tongue.



3: sword fight!

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/13/2008 14:58:59
I can put on a pantsuit and say "it's over."

will that help?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 15:00:35
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

n/t





http://yesterdayssalad.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/mccain_lieberman_hug.jpg


1: Is that a lump in your cheek or are you just happy to see me?



2: T-minus 2 seconds to tongue.



3: sword fight!


4) Hey I think I can see the Virgin Mary in the scar on your cheek!



:doh:

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 15:02:56
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

n/t





http://yesterdayssalad.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/mccain_lieberman_hug.jpg


1: Is that a lump in your cheek or are you just happy to see me?



2: T-minus 2 seconds to tongue.



3: sword fight!


4) Hey I think I can see the Virgin Mary in the scar on your cheek!



:doh:


You know I can't quit you.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 15:03:46
Raine is deep in photoshop... :lol:

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 15:09:34
Quote by Raine:

n/t





http://yesterdayssalad.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/mccain_lieberman_hug.jpg


Your cheek looks like it's ready to explode - just like me...

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 15:24:48
wow - photo caption fun really broke the blog...

Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 15:27:30
It's a disturbing picture : shudder :

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 15:36:57
Quote by BobR:

wow - photo caption fun really broke the blog...


The warm embrace of John and Joe made it sick.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 15:46:02
Here we go!!! (sorry it took so long...)







http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/MCLIEBERMAN.jpg




Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 15:49:16
That's just not right

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 15:49:31
Quote by Raine:

Here we go!!! (sorry it took so long...)



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/MCLIEBERMAN.jpg




:rofl: :bow:

Comment by m-hadley on 05/13/2008 16:03:34
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Here we go!!! (sorry it took so long...)



http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/MCLIEBERMAN.jpg




:rofl: :bow:




Raine,

I take my cowpoke hat off to you, gal - your know your way 'round that Photoshop - good job :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 16:05:48
Quote by Raine:

Here we go!!! (sorry it took so long...)







http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/MCLIEBERMAN.jpg




Now I can use the line, "You know I can't quit you."

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 16:06:56
Faye... Take it and pass it on, sista!







Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 16:10:33
So, under Bush median income slipped from $40,000 to $35,000. Boy, where is all that prosperity that Bush says is out there.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/13/2008 16:17:07
A few suggestions for the new Poll - where is Jim Webb's name? and I believe Dodd's first name is Chris not Chuck. Just a couple minor points :scratchhead:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by m-hadley on 05/13/2008 16:19:04
Quote by Raine:

Faye... Take it and pass it on, sista!







Thanks Raine,

Don't mind if I do - look for it on the sidebar of my blog soon :clap:

Muchas Gracias, amiga!

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:



Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 16:25:26
"Do It Live" - Video style. Sorry that it goes a little out of sync. That's the prob with the conversions and uploading (when dealing with an ameteur like me!)





Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 16:30:22
Oh yeah.. A photo flashback from 8/29/2005:



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2475513320_86244895f9.jpg?v=0




http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/221291144_2582089b9a.jpg?v=0




Happy fuckin' birthday, Senator McCain.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/13/2008 16:30:38
Good morning/afternoon!



Hey Livin, it looks like Bill-O isn't the only one with rage. Sue Simmons thought she was off mic on the live news show last night and said, "What the fuck are you doing?" This, of course, was followed by the BS apology. Nice.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 16:34:02
I feel a strange sense of forbooding...Like I'm Luca Brasi or sumtin.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 16:39:17
Quote by Random:

I feel a strange sense of forbooding...Like I'm Luca Brasi or sumtin.


hey - a new face!



welcome to the blog!

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 16:42:42
Quote by BobR:

hey - a new face!



welcome to the blog!


Eh...yes, thanks.

How are things here...Must say, this is an interesting place.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 16:43:27
Quote by Random:

I feel a strange sense of forbooding...Like I'm Luca Brasi or sumtin.


Random is here! yay!

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 16:46:47
Quote by Shane-O:

Random is here! yay!


Yes...Now i can be a Troll on this blog too. I feel so deversified (And i know...I can't spell)

Comment by wickedpam on 05/13/2008 16:49:28
Heya Random :)

Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 16:50:00
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Random is here! yay!


Yes...Now i can be a Troll on this blog too. I feel so deversified (And i know...I can't spell)
Whatchoo talkin' bout? You're not a Troll!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 16:51:10
Sloganizer says...



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/skewpster/RANDOM.jpg


Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 16:52:45
I...Have no response to that *choked up* thanks Shane-O

Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 16:58:37
Quote by Random:

I...Have no response to that *choked up* thanks Shane-O
Just don't tell Clay!

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:02:16
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

I...Have no response to that *choked up* thanks Shane-O
Just don't tell Clay!




Oh? Does Clay say I'm a troll? If he does, I'm honored.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/13/2008 17:03:03
Oh, Random, you and your Godfather references are always welcome here.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 17:04:20
Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 17:05:18




Random? RANDOM??????



Well, welcome to our little corner of the internets. I lurk here these days, mostly.



<-- salt helmet

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/13/2008 17:06:42
Jessica Hahn having a mental breakdown on Howard 100.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:09:19
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


*coughs* Wow...I got nutin, but that reminds me of a video i saw a few days ago O.o. Wow...



Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 17:12:10
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

I...Have no response to that *choked up* thanks Shane-O
Just don't tell Clay!




Oh? Does Clay say I'm a troll? If he does, I'm honored.
No, no! -- I don't usually read Clay (I tried so hard this am!) - I was saying, welcome to YOU as a non-Troll - and not a Clay (the Official Scapegoat of the SMS Live Blog)



Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 17:13:26
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Jessica Hahn having a mental breakdown on Howard 100.


My most vivid memory of her is a music video from the 80s featuring Sam Kinison.



Yikes. :unsure:

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:14:23
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

Oh? Does Clay say I'm a troll? If he does, I'm honored.
No, no! -- I don't usually read Clay (I tried so hard this am!) - I was saying, welcome to YOU as a non-Troll - and not a Clay (the Official Scapegoat of the SMS Live Blog)



Ohhh, I see. Rightio. Gotcha. I understand.



Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 17:26:15
Drunk Vader sentenced for assaulting two Jedis



I don't know what's more disturbing about this story - the drunk dude dressing up as Darth Vader, or the fact that a real Jedi Church exists.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/13/2008 17:27:00
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg




Talk to the hand. I AM all THAT!



Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:31:59
Quote by Scoopster:

Drunk Vader sentenced for assaulting two Jedis



I don't know what's more disturbing about this story - the drunk dude dressing up as Darth Vader, or the fact that a real Jedi Church exists.


Uh...Yeah...Right. Glad I am not that much of a geek...*hides membership card to Star-Fleet academy*

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 17:34:03
Quote by Scoopster:

Drunk Vader sentenced for assaulting two Jedis



I don't know what's more disturbing about this story - the drunk dude dressing up as Darth Vader, or the fact that a real Jedi Church exists.




*snort*



Hughes, who has previous convictions for assault, had drunk the best part of a 10-litre box of wine and could not remember the attack, his lawyer Frances Jones told the court.




Ummm....where was Ms. Miller at the time?





Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/13/2008 17:34:33
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Jessica Hahn having a mental breakdown on Howard 100.


My most vivid memory of her is a music video from the 80s featuring Sam Kinison.



Yikes. :unsure:




Now she's almost 50 and bitter, very very bitter. She slept her way through Hollywood and now she's old news. Oh, well.



Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 17:34:55
Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Drunk Vader sentenced for assaulting two Jedis



I don't know what's more disturbing about this story - the drunk dude dressing up as Darth Vader, or the fact that a real Jedi Church exists.


Uh...Yeah...Right. Glad I am not that much of a geek...*hides membership card to Star-Fleet academy*


Bad time to admit that I have two TNG technical guides and a Klingon dictionary?

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:37:08
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Drunk Vader sentenced for assaulting two Jedis



I don't know what's more disturbing about this story - the drunk dude dressing up as Darth Vader, or the fact that a real Jedi Church exists.


Uh...Yeah...Right. Glad I am not that much of a geek...*hides membership card to Star-Fleet academy*


Bad time to admit that I have two TNG technical guides and a Klingon dictionary?


This would be the time, if i knew the language, to say something witty in Klingon.



Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 17:37:24
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


"and here's a little Zieg Heil to my supporters..."

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 17:41:41
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


"Don't vote for Obama, He's only this tall!"

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 17:42:25
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Jessica Hahn having a mental breakdown on Howard 100.


My most vivid memory of her is a music video from the 80s featuring Sam Kinison.



Yikes. :unsure:




Now she's almost 50 and bitter, very very bitter. She slept her way through Hollywood and now she's old news. Oh, well.



Her and Joey Buttafuco are just the pride of Long Island.



At least my hometown has Steve Buscemi as a claim to fame.



I guess Jessica's eggs are even dustier than Steph's.



And a belated welcome to Random.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:01:29
Well...Quiet...

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 18:03:17
Oh dear. Are there actually people that speak Klingon on this blog?



nuqneH?





Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 18:05:35
After Steph time, the activity on this blog comes and goes. May depend how encased in salt some bloggers are (just ask TriSec).

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:10:36
Ah...right...Well, I've got two hours to kill. People get back here and entertain me..As your Random God, I demand it.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:11:06
Quote by Random:

Well...Quiet...
Random!



Dahlink!



WElkommen!





I was off trying to take care of house things and the flaven!



Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:14:23
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Well...Quiet...
Random!



Dahlink!



WElkommen!





I was off trying to take care of house things and the flaven!



Que?



Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:20:41
Que?


It is nice to see you Random.



FAYE...



I fixed the poll...

I once again proved my ability to be an idjit.



I also added Jim Webb.









Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:24:20
Quote by Raine:

It is nice to see you Random.





your lips say yes, but your eyes say no.



Wait...That's not right.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:29:20
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


I represent the Lollipop Kids.







:sprint:

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:34:47
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg




"I won West Virginia By THIS much."



Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 18:37:50
Quote by Raine:



I represent the Lollipop Kids.







:sprint:
To Terry Jeffery (and his Lollipop Guild):

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:43:31
Is that the WV population stacked up?



I know, I know... off to the penalty box I go... ::: skates off :::

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:46:01
Has anyone here seen that youtube video, "Hillary's downfall"?



(I have run out of things to say)

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 18:47:23
Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


"ok - who wants to see me perform fellatio on this microphone - let's see a show of hands..."

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 18:49:04
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


"ok - who wants to see me perform fellatio on this microphone - let's see a show of hands..."


"The Reason Bill went elsewhere" O.o



Comment by Shane-O on 05/13/2008 18:50:09
Quote by Raine:

Is that the WV population stacked up?



I know, I know... off to the penalty box I go... ::: skates off :::


Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:52:50
:thud:







Clinton loses her First PLEDGED delegate...



This was the meme that hillary was trying to use about her going after Obama's pledged delegates.Do you remember when she was saying that she was going to go after HIS pledged delegates?



And now we have a serious flip.



I shudder for BOTH candidates.













Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 18:55:05
Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 18:56:32
Quote by Random:

Has anyone here seen that youtube video, "Hillary's downfall"?



(I have run out of things to say)




you have?



Ask Tri about the BoSox... :lol:



Comment by Scoopster on 05/13/2008 18:57:11
Okay wow Bob.. I didn't even see the fellatio one show up on 4chan!



(They did get the heil one though.. they even caught the shadows of the eagles in the background for added nuance!)

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 18:58:42
Quote by Raine:

:thud:



Clinton loses her First PLEDGED delegate...



This was the meme that hillary was trying to use about her going after Obama's pledged delegates.Do you remember when she was saying that she was going to go after HIS pledged delegates?



And now we have a serious flip.



I shudder for BOTH candidates.





This seems like a dangerous precedent to me. If you are a pledged delgate for a candidate, then your first vote at the convention should be for the one you pledged to. If a revote is necessary, however, you should be able to change your vote.

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 19:01:02
Quote by Scoopster:

Okay wow Bob.. I didn't even see the fellatio one show up on 4chan!



(They did get the heil one though.. they even caught the shadows of the eagles in the background for added nuance!)


Just doing my part! :P

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 19:05:11
:puke:



John McCain will be on SNL this weekend?



You think they can get him to dress up like a woman?

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 19:05:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Has anyone here seen that youtube video, "Hillary's downfall"?



(I have run out of things to say)




you have?



Ask Tri about the BoSox... :lol:





I'm almost afraid to.



Comment by starling310 on 05/13/2008 19:08:36
<----- salt helmet



Hi everybody!!! : waves frantically :

Raine, got'cher message.

Faye, got'cher mail!



: gets hooked off stage : :sprint:

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 19:13:28
I do not think any dem will win WV in the fall.



Do I need to post a kitten photo now?

Comment by starling310 on 05/13/2008 19:14:46
: adrienne from Rocky IV to Hillary : You can't win!

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 19:15:04
Quote by Raine:

I do not think any dem will win WV in the fall.



Do I need to post a kitten photo now?




Yes Pwease.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 19:16:00
Love ya :star:

CUL8TR

Comment by starling310 on 05/13/2008 19:20:41
Is there going to be a W.VA Blog tonight? If so, I will stop in. I actually have the night free.



:peace:

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 19:25:50
BIRD LIVES!




http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/artists/images/Charlie_Parker.jpg


Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 19:26:18
Quote by starling310:

Is there going to be a W.VA Blog tonight? If so, I will stop in. I actually have the night free.



:peace:




Oh, I'd love that, a W.VA. Blog...We need a drinking game for Hill's speech

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 19:28:24
Quote by Raine:





you have?



Ask Tri about the BoSox... :lol:





Wha? Our Beloved Carmine Hose? The Hometown Nine?



Bunch of punks. They suck. Dead Flops.



Ask me about the Smell-tics, because they stink, too.









Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 19:31:44
My iTunes has a warped sense of humor today. It's been flipping between Bird, ol' Blue Eyes, and Electronica.



: airbags deploy :





Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 19:35:39
Quote by Random:





Oh, I'd love that, a W.VA. Blog...We need a drinking game for Hill's speech


I'll need drinks BEFORE her speech just to get through it.





NEED FUZZY ANIMAL PICTURE!!! STAT!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 19:36:16
Quote by Random:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:

Ok guys.. getting back on track with our caption fun day, what can you make of this:



http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/Imgr8phil/Politics/HillaryatPodium.jpg


"ok - who wants to see me perform fellatio on this microphone - let's see a show of hands..."


"The Reason Bill went elsewhere" O.o



Hi-Ho! :golf swing:

Comment by TriSec on 05/13/2008 19:39:00
Quote by BobR:



NEED FUZZY ANIMAL PICTURE!!! STAT!!!!




Well, there is a domesticated Chinchilla on his head...



http://www.staralicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/donald-trump.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 19:42:03
Quote by Raine:

I do not think any dem will win WV in the fall.



Do I need to post a kitten photo now?


Pwetty please with sugar on it.

Comment by starling310 on 05/13/2008 19:57:29
Aaawww....Randi is back to her good 'ole condescending self. :thud:

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 20:01:49
She just needed to settle back into her little groove there.



And now it's off to work, I will probably listen to it on the XM machine while driving in now that I can listen to her in the car again.



WWRL still runs Air America afternoons which this week has Ron Reagan.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 20:51:40
Whew. BIG computer crash. All is well now.



and about the WV blog... ::: joe Biden Voice ::: Yes.



We should have one.



What time do the polls close?

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 20:57:28
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:



NEED FUZZY ANIMAL PICTURE!!! STAT!!!!




Well, there is a domesticated Chinchilla on his head...



http://www.staralicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/donald-trump.jpg
HA!









http://www.chinchilla-lexikon.de/deutsch/bilder/bilder-2006/chinchilla-picture-2006-02.JPG


Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 21:07:27
Quote by Raine:

Whew. BIG computer crash. All is well now.



and about the WV blog... ::: joe Biden Voice ::: Yes.



We should have one.



What time do the polls close?




MSNBC starts coverage at 6, so i'm guessing between 7 and 8 (eastern)



Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:21:55
OK...



I have Wodka. I am stoked for *iilary's victory speech..







Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 21:22:13
I still want a Kittie.



:goes into blog corner: :sulks:

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 21:25:19
I wish i could drink...so i cna get toasted while watching her speech.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:26:31
Michael Moore making a Farenheit 911 sequel...

Michael Moore is making a sequel to "Fahrenheit 9/11" for Paramount Vantage and Overture Films, who will shop the project to international buyers when the Cannes Film Festival and market get under way today. The two companies are co-financing and co-producing the untitled documentary, which will be released in 2009....



Moore may be leaving the Weinstein Co. -- where he made his last two films, including "Fahrenheit" -- but Overture and Vantage are no strangers to the filmmaker. Overture CEO Chris McGurk and COO Danny Rosett were both at MGM and United Artists, home of Moore's "Bowling for Columbine."



Moore also knows Vantage topper Nick Meyer, former president of Lionsgate's international arm. Lionsgate teamed with Bob and Harvey Weinstein and distributed Fahrenheit after Disney refused to let Miramax to do so. Lionsgate again teamed with the Weinstein's to distribute Moore's last docu, "Sicko."...



It's possible that his new docu could play at Cannes next year, if it isn't released earlier in the Spring. He's already at work on the docu....



Sequel will pick up where "Fahrenheit" left off. In the time since, President Bush's popularity has plummeted, while the Iraq war continues and the economy falters....




Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:31:17
Quote by livingonli:

I still want a Kittie.



:goes into blog corner: :sulks:


Dude.



you're killing me.









But here.....















































http://www.unfortu.net/~james/kittens.jpg




:poke:

I could not help myself.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:33:15






Random, you can be our designated Blogger.



Velveeta Jones (who sadly is still without power today, so she is mia) could use a little help in that area I am sure!

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 21:36:34
Raine, you are bad.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:42:40
:D



I am bad.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 21:49:46
Quote by Raine:

:D



I am bad.


And you're not just drawn that way. :P

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 21:54:08
good one liv!

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 21:58:36
Time for a music interlude in case anyone missed it last night.





Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 22:00:10
Tonite, Obama does not plan on giving a speech...



And I have a terrible earworm... Which I WILL share...





John Denver... West Virginia... Mountain Momma.... Country Roads...



DAMN you John Denver!!!

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 22:04:02
Quote by Raine:

Tonite, Obama does not plan on giving a speech...



And I have a terrible earworm... Which I WILL share...





John Denver... West Virginia... Mountain Momma.... Country Roads...



DAMN you John Denver!!!


Now where's Connor?

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 22:09:03
Quote by Raine:







Random, you can be our designated Blogger.



Velveeta Jones (who sadly is still without power today, so she is mia) could use a little help in that area I am sure!




Hey...I have no idea what you just said.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 22:11:43
Don't worry. Once you get to know us you can figure out.



Then again I have to be sober tonight too since I am at work until 1 AM.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 22:13:32
...I'm confused...



Okay...that is just trippy.

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 22:17:28
Velveeta the other blogger who's MIA tonight is in AA so she can't drink.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 22:19:04
Goodie...You lost me at what you mean by Blogger...



Comment by shelaghc on 05/13/2008 22:22:44
Popping in for a moment to be annoyed.



Tonight is my Drinking Liberally group and I was *really* looking forward to watching the WV primary with everyone.



However, there is something that is far more important to Pittsburghers tonight than who will be the Democratic nominee: The Penguins playing hockey.



Our venue has informed me we'll be permitted to have one large table for ten and we won't be able to watch MSNBC as uaual until the game is over and the crowd abandons the upper room.



Of course, that's presuming any DL members even show up.



Pittsburghers take their hockey *very* seriously......



And me? meh......



I'm almost hoping no one shows up in the first ninety minutes so I can just go home and watch the primaries in peace.

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 22:25:39
Get used to "trippy" Random!

Comment by BobR on 05/13/2008 22:26:03
Quote by livingonli:

Time for a music interlude in case anyone missed it last night.





excellent, dude!



When it started I was getting ready to stop it because of the hiphop vibe (which I am NOT into), but I'm glad I gave it a chance...

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 22:27:08
:ireland: if no one shows up, I hope you can join the bloggie here tonite.

Comment by Random on 05/13/2008 22:27:38
Quote by Raine:

Get used to "trippy" Random!


I have no problem with Trippy. Just playin an old game, and the text looks just like the text in the add comment box. Just looks a lil trippy when i type fast and it looks like the game text man.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/13/2008 22:37:52
Quote by Raine:

:ireland: if no one shows up, I hope you can join the bloggie here tonite.


Problem is I have to stay at least a certain amount of time just in case people show up.



Had I known about the game, I probably would have moved it to another week or something.....



seeya

Comment by livingonli on 05/13/2008 22:40:27
Shelagh, sounds like that kind of a night. When the playoffs are on, it becomes a big thing especially in bars. The other night, we had a quick after work drink and the local place had ESPN, YES, MSG, SNY, and Versus on all the TV's even though the only events were a late Met game and the late NHL game on Versus.



Just imagine if you were in Canada and asked someone to turn off the playoffs? That would get really ugly (and that's why Canadians are still waiting for Season 4 of Doctor Who and Season 2 of Torchwood).

Comment by Raine on 05/13/2008 23:04:55
New blog Post! WV primary Blog!



I even Kinda wrote something too! CU there!