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Author: TriSec    Date: 05/17/2008 10:40:41

Good Morning!

By now you must know where I'm headed if the blog is posted at this hour on a Saturday.
The separation of individual blood components is done with a specialized centrifuge (see apheresis). The earliest manual forms of plateletpheresis are done by the separation of platelets from multiple bags of whole blood collected from donors or blood sellers. Since each blood bag (usually 250 ml or 500 ml) contains a relatively small number of platelets, it can take as many as a dozen blood bags (usually from 5 to 10 bags, depending on the size of the blood bags and each donor's platelet count) to accumulate a single unit of platelets (enough for one patient). This greatly increases the risks of the transfusion. Each unit of platelets separated from donated whole blood is called a "platelet concentrate".

Modern automatic plateletpheresis allows the blood donor to give a portion of his platelets, while keeping his or her red blood cells and at least a portion of blood plasma. Therefore, no more than three units of platelets are generally harvested in any one sitting from a donor. Most donors will donate a "single" or "double" unit, however the occurrence of "triples" has been increasing as more suitable donors are recruited.

Because platelets have a life-span of just 5 days, more platelet donors are always needed. Some centers are experimenting with 7 day platelets, but this requires additional testing and the lack of any preservative solutions means that the product is far more effective when fresh.

Even though red blood cells can also be collected in the process, most blood donation organizations do not do so because it takes much longer for the human body to replenish their loss. If the donor donates both red blood cells and platelets, it takes months, rather than days or weeks, before they are allowed to donate again (the guidelines regarding blood donation intervals are country-specific).

In most cases, blood plasma is returned to the donor as well. However, in locations that have plasma processing facilities, a part of the donor's plasma can also be collected in a separate blood bag (see plasmapheresis).


So why not give the Red Cross a call?



So...do you like paying taxes? [Hell ya! ]. Well hey, there's an easy solution. How about calling it something else?
Taxation is a dirty word, notes liberal writer Richard Conniff, in an April 15 commentary in the New York Times entitled "Abolish All 'Taxes'."

"The word 'tax' was never pretty," Conniff writes. "But it has lately become the ugliest word in the English language, right up there with its evil twin, 'death.'"

So far we heartily agree with Mr. Conniff. "Tax" is indeed an ugly word. That's because it describes an ugly and widely-hated practice -- the seizing of huge amounts of money at gunpoint from citizens, and the squandering of that money on endless ill-conceived and destructive government schemes.

So what's Conniff's solution? Cut back or eliminate taxes?

Unfortunately, no.

Conniff says we should just... change the word.

"I propose we stop saying 'taxes' and start calling them 'dues,'" he writes.

The word "dues" is far better, Conniff says, because it "is rooted in social obligation and duty" and thus won't be as unpopular.

Conniff acknowledges that implementing this linguistic presto-chango trick -- in which coercive taxation magically becomes the equivalent of voluntary membership in a club -- "will be an uphill struggle." He also acknowledges it is "sneaky" and arguably "Orwellian."

"But we need language to remind us that this is our government, and that we thrive because of the schools and transit systems and 10,000 other services that exist only because we have joined together."

Alas, Mr. Conniff doesn't specify exactly when we all "joined together" and agreed to fund these 10,000 "services."

He continues:

"'Taxation' is a throwback to the time when kings picked our pockets. 'Paying my dues,' a phrase popularized in the jazz music world, is language by which we can stand together as Americans."

O-kay.

We like what one of Conniff's liberal friends said to this proposal:

"I probably wouldn't like paying dues either," his friend said. "The government isn't my kind of club."

It's not ours, either. In truth, the government is a "club" only in the sense that it is frequently used to beat people over the head.

George Orwell understood perfectly what folks like Conniff are up to. Wrote Orwell: "Political language [is] designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable."

Sorry, Mr. Conniff. "Dues" is to "taxes" as "making love" is to "rape." To paraphrase Shakespeare, a tax by any other name would stink just as bad.

Indeed, the world "taxation" is itself a euphemism. A more accurate word would be "robbery."




Changing gears, many of us when pressed might just name Thomas Jefferson as our favorite Founding Father. [I'd choose Elbridge Gerry, but that's another story. ] So, how would you celebrate his birthday publicly, if given the chance? Would you have a big party and read the Declaration of Independence? Maybe travel to his elegant home at Monticello? Contribute to a cause dedicated to preserving individual liberties and freedom? Or maybe you'd just head to the Jefferson Memorial and dance around? Well.....maybe you'd better not do that last one.
Thomas Jefferson famously said, "Dancing is a healthy and elegant exercise."

Thus it seemed appropriate that a small group of young libertarians decided to celebrate Jefferson's April 13 birthday with a ten-minute "silent dance" at the outdoor Jefferson Memorial in Washington, DC.

The Jefferson Memorial is a large open-air monument, open to the public 24 hours a day.

The twenty or so libertarians met at the Memorial near midnight, a time chosen so as not to interfere with the constant flow of visitors during daytime hours. Also in order not to disturb any visitors, no audible music was played; instead, they used iPods and headphones.

This was in no way a demonstration or any attempt to provoke a confrontation, according to organizers. It was just light-hearted, spontaneous, kind of geeky fun. A videotape confirms the group was silent and non-disruptive, dancing gently; indeed, the busloads of school kids who daily visit the monument are far louder and more disruptive. There were only a few other people at the monument besides the small group of libertarians, and none were disturbed. The group broke no laws.

Still, after just a few minutes, the National Park Police ordered the dancers to leave, using abusive and threatening language. Brooke Oberwetter, a woman in her mid-twenties, was handcuffed and arrested when she simply asked why they were being expelled. The police refused to answer her question. She was later charged with "interfering with an agency function" and released after five hours. She now faces a federal trial.

The arrest has drawn international attention. Writing in TheAtlantic.com, Megan McArdle notes: "As a resident of DC, I'm certainly overjoyed to hear that violent crime has fallen to a level where we can spare valuable police resources to fight the silent scourge of ... dancing. Now that we have no more murders or muggings, it seems to me that we should also be looking at newsboys who smoke, women who attend the theater, and of course, the iniquitous habit of playing cards on the Sabbath."

In a time of war and severe attacks on fundamental civil liberties, this may seem a trivial matter. But all across America, one hears more and more stories about heavy-handed arbitrary government law enforcement tactics, in schools, workplaces, and public places. Many fear America is rapidly becoming a very different place than "the land of the free." That Americans are being conditioned to blindly obey state authority without question.

We have a pretty good idea what Jefferson would have thought about this affair. After all, he said: "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."




We'll wrap up this morning with the wit and wisdom of Presidential Candidate Dr. Mary Ruwart in our long-running feature, "Why aren't YOU a Libertarian?"
QUESTION: I agree with a lot of things libertarians believe. However, I can't name one person that I know, or know of, who is a libertarian or a Libertarian Party member. And I never hear libertarian political candidates. Why is that? Perhaps libertarians tend to speak only to themselves, and seldom enter the public debates in politics?

MY SHORT ANSWER: If you aren't aware of libertarians among your acquaintances, perhaps you don't vocalize your support of libertarianism in your own circles of influence. I find that mentioning my political beliefs often elicit comments such as "Libertarians have a lot of good ideas!" or "I'm a libertarian too!"

Of course, if you attend local Libertarian Party meetings, or Ron Paul meet-ups, or meetings of other libertarian groups, you can get to know quite a few libertarians in your community, quickly.

Regarding the Libertarian Party, if you visit one of their meetings you'll quickly learn that Libertarians are forced to spend about 90% of their financial and activist resources just to stay on the ballot, thanks to outrageously discriminatory laws passed by the two older parties. Each state legislature, consisting of Democrats and Republicans, erect huge barriers for new parties so their candidates won't have a genuine opportunity to influence public opinion.

Even when libertarian candidates of any party manage to get through the ballot hurdles and other obstacles, they generally find their comments are largely ignored by the media, which seems to find it hard to think of politics outside the familiar "Democrat versus Republican" or "liberal versus conservative" model -- an inaccurate model which leaves libertarians and Libertarians out entirely. (The Advocates for Self-Government's famous World's Smallest Political Quiz is helping people to see through the fallacy of this limited view.)

This year, Republican libertarian presidential candidate Ron Paul -- despite huge grassroots support -- never received anywhere close to the publicity he should have received for his pathbreaking campaign. Similarly, Libertarian Party presidential candidates are routinely excluded from the presidential debates, which in the past have been controlled by, you guessed it, the leadership of the Republican and Democratic parties.

In short, libertarian candidates and libertarian activists *do* speak out on the major issues of the day, and offer innovative and viable solutions -- but often aren't heard because the "gatekeepers" are difficult to get by.

Now for some good news! A lot of this is changing, and changing fast. Thanks to the hard work of libertarian educational organizations like the Advocates for Self-Government, the public and the media are learning that there is more to politics than left and right. The Quiz, for example, is in the online supplementary material of a dozen textbooks. So today's students are learning about libertarianism in their classrooms -- thanks to the Advocates!

The Internet has dramatically decentralized political campaigns and allows libertarians to finally bypass the gatekeepers and reach the public themselves with their ideas and candidacies. Ron Paul's startling grassroots campaign is just the first sign of great things to come, I think.

According to pollsters like Gallup and Rasmussen, there are more libertarians and libertarian-leaning Americans than ever before -- about 10-20% of the population, according to many researchers. You can learn more about that here: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6715

Another gauge of growing support for libertarian ideas is the number of celebrities and prominent people who now proudly call themselves libertarians. A few decades, there were almost none. Now there are hundreds. The Advocates has a long list of them, complete with biographies and quotes, here: http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities.html

I suggest you share your passion about political issues with those around you. There are more libertarians and libertarian-leaning individuals than ever before, and more people are open to our ideas than ever before. It's a great time to be a libertarian, and to meet other libertarians. Once you speak up, you may find they're all around you!


Ah, and whether or not you agree with the Libertarian Party....the sentiment is the same. Get out there, talk to people, volunteer! You'll find plenty of people out there that believe the same thing you do....all you need to do is ask. :peace:


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Comment by velveeta jones on 05/17/2008 13:26:59
Ron Paul? I must google that guy. I sometimes see signs (still) for him running. But I thought he dropped out - and said that he would not run as the LP candidate? He said, twice in debates, that he was a REPUBLICAN.



Ah well.



KO was fetching last night, yes? ;)



And in case you missed the newest BillO spoof........... here 'tis:





Comment by m-hadley on 05/17/2008 14:57:39
Mornin' Velveeta & TriSec,

VJ - thanks for posting that heee-larious clip from KO last night - I was only able to catch part of the show and missed that segment Hope everybody has a great weekend ! :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 15:23:33
Good morning one and all!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/17/2008 15:38:12
Quote by velveeta jones:

Ron Paul? I must google that guy. I sometimes see signs (still) for him running. But I thought he dropped out - and said that he would not run as the LP candidate? He said, twice in debates, that he was a REPUBLICAN.



Ah well.



KO was fetching last night, yes? ;)



And in case you missed the newest BillO spoof........... here 'tis:









Trogladyte homonculus! :rofl:

Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 15:55:19
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Ron Paul? I must google that guy. I sometimes see signs (still) for him running. But I thought he dropped out - and said that he would not run as the LP candidate? He said, twice in debates, that he was a REPUBLICAN.



Ah well.



KO was fetching last night, yes? ;)



And in case you missed the newest BillO spoof........... here 'tis:









Trogladyte homonculus! :rofl:


*coughs* oh dear lord...I love who ever made this video

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/17/2008 15:57:18


Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 16:09:13
Ted Kennedy has been rushed to the hospital with Stroke like symptoms. :(

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 16:10:15
HE has been Airlifted to Boston Hospital. According to CNN.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 16:12:11
Sorry -- MAssachusetts General Hospital.



He was stricken according to sources in Hyannisport.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prayers for Senator Kennedy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 16:18:35
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/animated_candle.gif


Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/17/2008 16:26:52
Good morning, bloggers.



Sorry to join you with such sad news. Here is a little bit from the MSNBC story. (I already have a thread at UNN on it.)





Report: Sen. Kennedy rushed to hospital

76-year-old Democrat airlifted to hospital after stroke-like symptoms





BREAKING NEWS

MSNBC News Services



May 17: Sen. Ted Kennedy has been airlifted from his Hyannisport, Massachusetts, home to the hospital with an undisclosed ailment. MSNBC's Alex Witt and Pat Buchanan have the latest.

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Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts has been hospitalized in Boston after suffering stroke-like symptoms, The Associated Press has learned.



Kennedy, 76, was taken to the hospital overnight, said an official who requested anonymity. There was no word on his condition.





I am keeping Senator Kennedy in my thoughts and my prayers. He and his family have been through so much over the years.

Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 16:30:22
Greetings from the salt mine. Another OT day for me.



Healing vibes for the senior Senator from Massachusetts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



BTW, I looked at the Libertarian celebrity list and it included a number of people like Neal Boortz who claim to be Libertarinas but have supported much of the Bush agenda including the clampdown on civil liberties in the name of the so-called "War on Terror". To me, they are still Republicans hiding under another name especially as the opinion of the GOP has plummeted so much thanks to Bush's policies.

Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 16:35:52
Quote by will in chicago:

Good morning, bloggers.



Sorry to join you with such sad news. Here is a little bit from the MSNBC story. (I already have a thread at UNN on it.)





Report: Sen. Kennedy rushed to hospital

76-year-old Democrat airlifted to hospital after stroke-like symptoms





BREAKING NEWS

MSNBC News Services



May 17: Sen. Ted Kennedy has been airlifted from his Hyannisport, Massachusetts, home to the hospital with an undisclosed ailment. MSNBC's Alex Witt and Pat Buchanan have the latest.

MSNBC





Interactive



Decision '08 leaderboard

See who's leading who in the race for the presidency.

NBC News





Interactive



Inside the Bush White House

Click here for a look at George W. Bush’s administration



Politics



Click here to share your thoughts on political matters, including the race for the Democratic nomination, single-party control of the White House and the Congress, soft-money groups, fundraising, immigration, the economy, NAFTA, and the presidential campaign.

BREAKING NEWS

MSNBC News Services

updated 2 minutes ago

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts has been hospitalized in Boston after suffering stroke-like symptoms, The Associated Press has learned.



Kennedy, 76, was taken to the hospital overnight, said an official who requested anonymity. There was no word on his condition.





I am keeping Senator Kennedy in my thoughts and my prayers. He and his family have been through so much over the years.
Poor Teddy...



Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 16:43:07
Raine, I e-mailed you something through the Contact Us address.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/17/2008 16:52:01
I have high hopes that Ted will be okay. He's making phone calls from his hospital to cancel an egagement?



:clap:





Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/17/2008 17:01:56
Quote by velveeta jones:

I have high hopes that Ted will be okay. He's making phone calls from his hospital to cancel an egagement?



:clap:







That is a good sign, indeed.





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/17/2008 17:27:26
According to someone who spoke with Teddy just last week, and commented that Ted had lost some weight, Ted responded:



"I have to be in fighting shape because I'm going to go work for Obama"





Woot! Woot!



GO TED!!!

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 17:39:48
Good news indeed!



The AP is reporting thru a spokesperson that he has suffered a siezure.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 18:12:13
Thanks for the email Liv!

Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 18:16:46
Quote by Raine:

Thanks for the email Liv!


Since it was mentioned on the blog the other day. I thought you would be interested.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 18:38:01
I think you should tell the whole blog about it. HE did do a lot of work in Set design and theatre. Velveeta and a few others would like to know.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 18:41:03
is there a place where I can get a podcast of the show-- for FREE?



I would like to send it along to a few friends of mine.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/17/2008 18:45:47
Quote by Raine:

Good news indeed!



The AP is reporting thru a spokesperson that he has suffered a siezure.






Here is the story from the Boston Globe - and there is a video in the link.



Ted Kennedy hospitalized after suffering seizures

By Peter Schworm and Matt Viser, Globe Staff



Senator Edward M. Kennedy was rushed from his Hyannisport home to Massachusetts General Hospital this morning after an apparent seizure. One government official said the 76-year-old senator suffered a second seizure aboard a helicopter transport flight from the Cape to Boston.



Kennedy’s Senate office released a written statement just after 2 p.m. today offering the first official confirmation, saying, "It appears that Senator Kennedy experienced a seizure this morning. He is undergoing a battery of tests at Massachusetts General Hospital to determine the cause of the seizure. Senator Kennedy is resting comfortably, and it is unlikely we will know anything more for the next 48 hours."





Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 18:49:19
Ahh...Teddy...we love you.

Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 18:56:07
Quote by Raine:

is there a place where I can get a podcast of the show-- for FREE?



I would like to send it along to a few friends of mine.


I have to look. They did provide a fee podcast because the show was running on some non-commercial stations. Although that may have been when it was a re-cut of the old 3-hour shows. They would have to actually add content on a commerical-free version of the show.

Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 19:12:20
Raine, maybe you can try this spot for Laura Flanders podcasts.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 19:32:34
HRC toured the MAkers MArk Distillery today.



Strange thing the Whiskey and the HRC.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/17/2008 19:41:00
Quote by Raine:

HRC toured the MAkers MArk Distillery today.



Strange thing the Whiskey and the HRC.






Maybe they are long time friends. I'm just sayin'. George, Jim, Jack could have gotten her thru some tough times.

Comment by Raine on 05/17/2008 19:41:56
Here is a thought for the day. If Mr. McCain really believes as he does about not talking to the enemy, his very own torturers would never have released him.





He never would have come home from Vietnam.

Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 19:54:50
Quote by Raine:

Here is a thought for the day. If Mr. McCain really believes as he does about not talking to the enemy, his very own torturers would never have released him.





He never would have come home from Vietnam.




Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 01:00:55
There are times were i feel like a general outsider to this place.

Comment by TriSec on 05/18/2008 01:06:30
Evening, folks. Checking in after a long day...



Our senior Senator appears to be OK. It's been characterized as a "seizure", although the early reports this am had him with a stroke. :whew:



Where the hell is the Sox game?





Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 01:14:04
Quote by TriSec:

Evening, folks. Checking in after a long day...



Our senior Senator appears to be OK. It's been characterized as a "seizure", although the early reports this am had him with a stroke. :whew:



Where the hell is the Sox game?







Hm...Sox...Sox...*thought bubble: Crap...Crap...I wish i knew sports*



Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 01:14:42
It was a 3:30 game on Fox. But there's supposed to be a second game. Isn't NESN running that?

Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 01:35:31
Quote by Random:

There are times were i feel like a general outsider to this place.
Why?



you are here. we have no inside or outside.



What we have is here and now. :hug:



Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 01:41:12
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

There are times were i feel like a general outsider to this place.
Why?



you are here. we have no inside or outside.



What we have is here and now. :hug:



Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...



Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 01:42:41
Actually our Fox station in New York showed the Red Sox since the Subway Series game was at 1 PM.



Raine, Sunday night's Mets-Yankees game will be on ESPN if you want to watch.

Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 01:45:07
I feel like like Senior Senator will be alright.



A collective "WHEW"



Random... Sports are not a prerequisite here.



Has HRC suspended her campaign yet?



I heard some horrific things today, to tell you the truth. I had a chance to listen to her talk to her blogger supporters an she asked them to spread her new campaign points.



I was not pleased. Her new opinion is that those who do not vote for her are sexist. Especially WOMAN who don't . I will supply the link to the phone conferance if you need.



This is the new HRCC talking point.



Oh... and Kentucy is a must win for the HRC campaign to keep on keeping on.



I thought that was Texas.



*sigh*





Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 01:47:37
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

There are times were i feel like a general outsider to this place.
Why?



you are here. we have no inside or outside.



What we have is here and now. :hug:



Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...



Don't worry about it. Most of us have actually been talking for several years beginning at other places on the internet while some like you, Shane-O and mfaye are relatively new. If you stick around or just ask, you'll know plenty about us.



And in some cases, maybe more than you want to.

Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 01:50:42
Quote by Raine:

I feel like like Senior Senator will be alright.



A collective "WHEW"



Random... Sports are not a prerequisite here.



Has HRC suspended her campaign yet?



I heard some horrific things today, to tell you the truth. I had a chance to listen to her talk to her blogger supporters an she asked them to spread her new campaign points.



I was not pleased. Her new opinion is that those who do not vote for her are sexist. Especially WOMAN who don't . I will supply the link to the phone conferance if you need.



This is the new HRCC talking point.



Oh... and Kentucy is a must win for the HRC campaign to keep on keeping on.



I thought that was Texas.



*sigh*





She really is Ms. win at all costs. And how soon on Monday's blog will Clay, DRII, and SMH spread those talking points on the SMS show blog.

Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 01:51:11
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

There are times were i feel like a general outsider to this place.
Why?



you are here. we have no inside or outside.



What we have is here and now. :hug:



Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...

aww Random... ASK. (anything)



we are not here all the time. but just ask "what do you do?" Faye was asking that of you too!!! We are a bucch of strangers who got to know each other by asking!



Stop wondering just jump 'n and stop feeling like a genral outsider. Weekends are always a little slow anyway.



I do not want anyone to ever feel outside here. I don't. We all might not be around all together at the same time, but people DO check in and people will answer...



even if it is the next morn!











Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 01:52:42
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...



Don't worry about it. Most of us have actually been talking for several years beginning at other places on the internet while some like you, Shane-O and mfaye are relatively new. If you stick around or just ask, you'll know plenty about us.



And in some cases, maybe more than you want to.


The problem is...ARG...too hard to explain.

I don't like not knowing. I'm weird like that.

Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 01:54:06
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...



Don't worry about it. Most of us have actually been talking for several years beginning at other places on the internet while some like you, Shane-O and mfaye are relatively new. If you stick around or just ask, you'll know plenty about us.



And in some cases, maybe more than you want to.


The problem is...ARG...too hard to explain.

I don't like not knowing. I'm weird like that.


As Raine said, just ask.

Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 01:54:07
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

I feel like like Senior Senator will be alright.



A collective "WHEW"



Random... Sports are not a prerequisite here.



Has HRC suspended her campaign yet?



I heard some horrific things today, to tell you the truth. I had a chance to listen to her talk to her blogger supporters an she asked them to spread her new campaign points.



I was not pleased. Her new opinion is that those who do not vote for her are sexist. Especially WOMAN who don't . I will supply the link to the phone conferance if you need.



This is the new HRCC talking point.



Oh... and Kentucy is a must win for the HRC campaign to keep on keeping on.



I thought that was Texas.



*sigh*





She really is Ms. win at all costs. And how soon on Monday's blog will Clay, DRII, and SMH spread those talking points on the SMS show blog.
They can spread it all they want.





I NOW know where they got those TP's from.



This stuff comes RIGHT from her campaign. No sht no lie.



I heard the conferenece. Sad.













Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 01:57:52
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Because i don't know things other people do...And i can't even get through the blog post today...And I just...at times wonder...



Don't worry about it. Most of us have actually been talking for several years beginning at other places on the internet while some like you, Shane-O and mfaye are relatively new. If you stick around or just ask, you'll know plenty about us.



And in some cases, maybe more than you want to.


The problem is...ARG...too hard to explain.

I don't like not knowing. I'm weird like that.
Give yourself more credit...



you know plenty.



I would not have said click my name on the sms blog otherwise, dude.



besides we don't have a litmus test. If you have fun here, then that is all it is about.





Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 02:00:39
Liv said it best....

Don't worry about it.



Random... have fun, dunna sweat it :hug:







Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 02:01:56
Quote by Raine:

I feel like like Senior Senator will be alright.



A collective "WHEW"



Random... Sports are not a prerequisite here.



Has HRC suspended her campaign yet?



I heard some horrific things today, to tell you the truth. I had a chance to listen to her talk to her blogger supporters an she asked them to spread her new campaign points.



I was not pleased. Her new opinion is that those who do not vote for her are sexist. Especially WOMAN who don't . I will supply the link to the phone conferance if you need.



This is the new HRCC talking point.



Oh... and Kentucy is a must win for the HRC campaign to keep on keeping on.



I thought that was Texas.



*sigh*





Can i just point out why Hillary hasn't gotten a pass on the media? The major fact is that she has not had a major effort to make her the "Woman" candidate like they've tried making Barack the "Black" candidate.

Every election night they make big how-to-do's about 90% black vote for Barack, but never the numbers of White women for Hillary. They (okay...mainly the righties, and our resident HRC supporters) imply that blacks are racist for voting for Barack, but never the opposite for for Hillary's white women supports are sexist. (As looking at the hateful things said on NARAL's comments board)



Quote by livingonli:

As Raine said, just ask.




As a point on me...I can't. I'm not the type. I'm embarassed, shy, and don't like the idea of not knowing, so i never like to admit it (like asking would). So i mostly speak from my ass. (see response to Raine's post above)

Comment by TriSec on 05/18/2008 02:04:41
Say Random, have you made it over to the message board? There's this thread where we've all opened up a little teeny window into our personal lives....



But since you asked....'tis in my profile somewheres that my interests are Aviation, Jazz, Politics, Scouting, and U.



I'm the blog's resident av-dork (aviation geek), a 20 year veteran of the Boy Scouts of America (currently a Cubmaster), a third-generation musician (Trumpet/jazz/I suck but I enjoy playing) and an all-around newshound and current events geek.



I don't know that I have a life's work....but I suppose it's watching out for my kids at the Pack and indeed..."helping other people at all times".



Anyway...



Pleased to know you, sir. (You Are a sir, right? Damn anonymity of the internets...)

Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 02:08:00
Quote by TriSec:

Pleased to know you, sir. (You Are a sir, right? Damn anonymity of the internets...)


Considering I've refered to myself as a young male on several occasions.

But who knows...I'm a known liar.

Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 02:14:25
Hell Random, you make me happy I never had kids!!!



:rofl:



All i think a few of us are saying is sit down, chill out and get comfy. You sir are not an outsider. Smart ass, YES!

Outsider, no.



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