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The accidental Governor
Author: Raine
Date: 05/29/2008 11:27:35
First a little history. Many of you may recall back that in 2004, San Fransisco Mayor, Gavin Newsom allowed gay couples to marry. As a result, in the state of NY, New Paltlz Mayor Jason West decided to do the same. Sadly, NYS decided to uphold it's ban on same sex marriages the following year.
Since then, Massachusetts has recognized same sex marriage, and California has overturned it's ban on Gay marriages. Many states now recognize civil unions, which is a giant leap in the right direction. The biggest problem has been that these marriages are not recognized legally once a couple leaves the state. It seems as tho one man is changing that.
I am talking about David Paterson, the man who took the helm after Eliot Spizter had to leave office. He was never really meant to be the guy in charge of NYS. This man has taken a bold step forward. I think this approach makes sense, considering the situation. Please note that the bold face is mine.
From the NYT:
The Constitution of the United states of America, states:
Article IV, Section 2:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
What Patterson is doing is a precedent. I know that Canada is not a state, but in this line of thinking, regarding the definition of *several* it would be fair to include states like Vermont, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. Whatever those states grant couples, NYS will grant as well. It is in the constitution, it is a state right. The privileges of some become the privileges of all.
What I predict is that we wiil see in the coming months, many states adopt this policy. The flood gates will open. If you are fortunate enough to have a governor with a *D* next to their name, I urge you to call or write them a letter and ask them to do the same.
I think we will see in our day couples having the same rights equally and NOT different. The tides are turning. if things keep moving this way, the defense of Marriage Act will become something to be tossed into the dustbin of history. Until then, NYS will recognize you as a couple, whoever you. Good on you accidental Governor.
:peace: and
Raine
Since then, Massachusetts has recognized same sex marriage, and California has overturned it's ban on Gay marriages. Many states now recognize civil unions, which is a giant leap in the right direction. The biggest problem has been that these marriages are not recognized legally once a couple leaves the state. It seems as tho one man is changing that.
I am talking about David Paterson, the man who took the helm after Eliot Spizter had to leave office. He was never really meant to be the guy in charge of NYS. This man has taken a bold step forward. I think this approach makes sense, considering the situation. Please note that the bold face is mine.
From the NYT:
Gov. David A. Paterson has directed all state agencies to begin to revise their policies and regulations to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, like Massachusetts, California and Canada.
In a directive issued on May 14, the governor’s legal counsel, David Nocenti, instructed the agencies that gay couples married elsewhere “should be afforded the same recognition as any other legally performed union.”
The revisions are most likely to involve as many as 1,300 statutes and regulations in New York governing everything from joint filing of income tax returns to transferring fishing licenses between spouses.
In a videotaped message given to gay community leaders at a dinner on May 17, Mr. Paterson described the move as “a strong step toward marriage equality.” And people on both sides of the issue said it moved the state closer to fully legalizing same-sex unions in this state.
[...]
Massachusetts and California are the only states that have legalized gay marriage, while others, including New Jersey and Vermont, allow civil unions. Forty-one states have laws limiting marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
Legal experts said Mr. Paterson’s decision would make New York the only state that did not itself allow gay marriage but fully recognized same-sex unions entered into elsewhere.
[...]
The appeals court said that New York must recognize marriages performed in other states that allow the practice and in countries that permit it, like Canada and Spain.
The Constitution of the United states of America, states:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
What Patterson is doing is a precedent. I know that Canada is not a state, but in this line of thinking, regarding the definition of *several* it would be fair to include states like Vermont, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. Whatever those states grant couples, NYS will grant as well. It is in the constitution, it is a state right. The privileges of some become the privileges of all.
What I predict is that we wiil see in the coming months, many states adopt this policy. The flood gates will open. If you are fortunate enough to have a governor with a *D* next to their name, I urge you to call or write them a letter and ask them to do the same.
I think we will see in our day couples having the same rights equally and NOT different. The tides are turning. if things keep moving this way, the defense of Marriage Act will become something to be tossed into the dustbin of history. Until then, NYS will recognize you as a couple, whoever you. Good on you accidental Governor.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
Random on 05/29/2008 12:42:58
Random on 05/29/2008 12:42:58
Nice Post.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 05/29/2008 12:49:36
Scoopster on 05/29/2008 12:49:36
Morning Raine, Random..
:martini:
for David Patterson!
:martini:
for David Patterson!
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:52:54
velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:52:54
Great post Raine.
I mentioned last week, that I had to fill out forms for insurance for myself and my partner. Now one of the things I had to do was have a form notarized that we lived together and did not have other sexual partners! (That wasn't the wording, but it was the implication).
I mean, a man could be married and fooling around with several women that he has set up in love shacks.......... but he wouldn't have to have this notarized!! What a CROCK!
(Note: Let me be CLEAR! I am NOT seeing other people. Aunt Azalea is my one and only!!. Just let me be verrrrrrry clear about that).
:lol:
I mentioned last week, that I had to fill out forms for insurance for myself and my partner. Now one of the things I had to do was have a form notarized that we lived together and did not have other sexual partners! (That wasn't the wording, but it was the implication).
I mean, a man could be married and fooling around with several women that he has set up in love shacks.......... but he wouldn't have to have this notarized!! What a CROCK!
(Note: Let me be CLEAR! I am NOT seeing other people. Aunt Azalea is my one and only!!. Just let me be verrrrrrry clear about that).
:lol:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:59:36
velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:59:36
btw: a must-read today Arianna's blog on HuffPo re: Puffy McMoon Face. She really calls him out.
Just wondering........... with all these bush hacks coming out and writing books to get the blood off their hand............ I wonder how people would have felt if Nazi criminals like Mengele had gotten book deals!
[No, I'm not comparing them to Nazi's - just reminding ya'll that people have died because of the lies].
Just wondering........... with all these bush hacks coming out and writing books to get the blood off their hand............ I wonder how people would have felt if Nazi criminals like Mengele had gotten book deals!
[No, I'm not comparing them to Nazi's - just reminding ya'll that people have died because of the lies].
Comment by 
clintster on 05/29/2008 13:10:54
clintster on 05/29/2008 13:10:54
Mornin' all! Well, it looks like the administration is trying to drag Puffy under the bus with him. They're puzzled, Jerry, puzzled!
Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 13:12:05
I'm puzzled, they're puzzled...
Take a peek at Dubya's word of the day calender, money says yesterday's word was "Puzzled"
Random on 05/29/2008 13:12:05
Quote by clintster:
Mornin' all! Well, it looks like the administration is trying to drag Puffy under the bus with him. They're puzzled, Jerry, puzzled!
I'm puzzled, they're puzzled...
Take a peek at Dubya's word of the day calender, money says yesterday's word was "Puzzled"
Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 13:17:13
clintster on 05/29/2008 13:17:13
Oh My God! He is actually blaming Puffy for the cockup that is he Bush administration?
Worst President EVAH!
Worst President EVAH!
Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/29/2008 13:24:35
m-hadley on 05/29/2008 13:24:35
Mornin' everybody :coffee:
Excellent post, Raine. Just wanted to point out another good piece on AlterNet, entitled "What's the Matter with Oklahoma?" I think you all know that there is plenty wrong with Okie-ville, according to me. I'm going into work later this morning - am heading back to bed right now. Later gators.
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Excellent post, Raine. Just wanted to point out another good piece on AlterNet, entitled "What's the Matter with Oklahoma?" I think you all know that there is plenty wrong with Okie-ville, according to me. I'm going into work later this morning - am heading back to bed right now. Later gators.
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:37:12
livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:37:12
Good morning everyone. 
Glad to see that David Patterson is moving forward after the 12 year fiasco that was the Pataki Governorship.
Glad to see that David Patterson is moving forward after the 12 year fiasco that was the Pataki Governorship.
Comment by 
BobR on 05/29/2008 13:40:36
BobR on 05/29/2008 13:40:36
morning folks... :coffee:
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:44:21
livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:44:21
Everyone's slowly trickling into the waking world?
Any word on
or 
? They have been MIA for a couple of days now.
Any word on
or ? They have been MIA for a couple of days now.
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 13:53:21
Raine on 05/29/2008 13:53:21
Good morning everyone!
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 13:55:24
:star: has been busy with work... went out of town for Mem. Day... she might still be on vaca....
BobR on 05/29/2008 13:55:24
Quote by livingonli:
Everyone's slowly trickling into the waking world?
Any word on
:star: has been busy with work...
went out of town for Mem. Day... she might still be on vaca....
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:00:00
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:00:00
Good morning Raine. How's tricks?
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:01:01
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:01:01
Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.
Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:01:12
clintster on 05/29/2008 14:01:12
OK, so some on the right can't let go of Auschwitzgate (and BTW, can we let go of the labeling of any political controversy as (blank)gate?), so a RW blogger named Steve Gilbert decided to confirm his suspicions about Obama's great-uncle not actually existing. The results can be found here:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html
There was also a followup e-mail to Mr. Gilbert saying:
From: Mark Kitchell
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:47 AM
To: Steve Gilbert
Subject: Re: Any Record Of Charles W Payne?
I don’t claim to represent anyone. You are the one who came to my son and I asking for information.
Please spend ample time chasing down the lies fed to you by chickenhawks Bush & Co. Like 90% of this administration, they don’t have the foggiest idea what we went through or what we saw at Ohrdruf.
Subsequently, the 89th Infantry decided to clarify the issue once and for all:
http://www.89infdivww2.org/
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html
There was also a followup e-mail to Mr. Gilbert saying:
From: Mark Kitchell
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:47 AM
To: Steve Gilbert
Subject: Re: Any Record Of Charles W Payne?
I don’t claim to represent anyone. You are the one who came to my son and I asking for information.
Please spend ample time chasing down the lies fed to you by chickenhawks Bush & Co. Like 90% of this administration, they don’t have the foggiest idea what we went through or what we saw at Ohrdruf.
Subsequently, the 89th Infantry decided to clarify the issue once and for all:
http://www.89infdivww2.org/
Comment by 
Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:02:45
Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:02:45
Morning all! How's everyone?
I liked your post, Raine. I never really understood how the Defense of Marriage Act could trump the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution.
I liked your post, Raine. I never really understood how the Defense of Marriage Act could trump the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:08:12
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:08:12
Good morning, Shane-O and Clintster. Come join the party.
Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:10:41
Thankees, I believe I will. Guinness?
:beer:
clintster on 05/29/2008 14:10:41
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, Shane-O and Clintster. Come join the party.
Thankees, I believe I will. Guinness?
:beer:
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:13:11
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:13:11
Larry King never heard of the GPS. Well, then again my old car doesn't have one.
But does Larry King still drive a horse and buggy?
But does Larry King still drive a horse and buggy?
Comment by 
wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:13:53
wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:13:53
Morning :hug:
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:14:51
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:14:51
So am I the only one who found Kiki McLean rather disturbing last night?
Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:16:28
Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:16:28
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:17:34
Honestly, I do not either, It seems as tho it was legitimate, until we started finding ourselves with states that decided to institute thier own rights. DOMA technically imo, was never constitutional, now it seems as tho we finally have proof for it to be overturned.
What we need is for a supreme court that actually will do so...
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:17:34
Quote by Shane-O:
Morning all! How's everyone?
I liked your post, Raine. I never really understood how the Defense of Marriage Act could trump the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution.
What we need is for a supreme court that actually will do so...
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:17:56
I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:
:rofl:
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:17:56
Quote by livingonli:
Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.
I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:
:rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:18:16
Beer was created by monks as a liquid bread, so it works.
wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:18:16
Quote by Shane-O:
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
Beer was created by monks as a liquid bread, so it works.
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:19:09
wow - that took a lot of arm-twisting... :rolleyes:
remember - it's always 5:00 PM somewhere in the world...
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:19:09
Quote by Shane-O:
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
wow - that took a lot of arm-twisting... :rolleyes:
remember - it's always 5:00 PM somewhere in the world...
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:19:16
Clinster and Shane-O:
:beer:
There you go! with a perfect head!
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:19:16
Quote by Shane-O:
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
:beer:
There you go! with a perfect head!
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:19:59
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:19:59
Good morning Mala. How are things in DC?
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:20:35
I believe JD was saying that a case is working it's way to the SCOTUS (if not there already). Perhaps when she shows up she can elucidate us.
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:20:35
Quote by Raine:
Honestly, I do not either, It seems as tho it was legitimate, until we started finding ourselves with states that decided to institute thier own rights. DOMA technically imo, was never constitutional, now it seems as tho we finally have proof for it to be overturned.
What we need is for a supreme court that actually will do so...
I believe JD was saying that a case is working it's way to the SCOTUS (if not there already). Perhaps when she shows up she can elucidate us.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:22:14
All I've been doing this morning is typing. Maybe part of me is still asleep.
:D
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:22:14
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.
I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:
:rofl:
All I've been doing this morning is typing. Maybe part of me is still asleep.
:D
Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:22:48
Ahhh, just the way I like it.
Beer; mother's milk!!!
clintster on 05/29/2008 14:22:48
Quote by Raine:Clinster and Shane-O:Quote by Shane-O:
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
:beer:
There you go! with a perfect head!
Ahhh, just the way I like it.
Beer; mother's milk!!!
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:25:17
Keegan Ales in NY has a beer called Mother's Milk, and yes it is.
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:25:17
Quote by clintster:
Ahhh, just the way I like it.
Beer; mother's milk!!!
Keegan Ales in NY has a beer called Mother's Milk, and yes it is.
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:27:55
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:27:55
Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:29:02
When I'm drinking beer, I like good head...
A good head!
oops.
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:29:02
Quote by Raine:
Clinster and Shane-O:
:beer:
There you go! with a perfect head!
When I'm drinking beer, I like good head...
A good head!
oops.
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:29:12
TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:29:12
*grunt*
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:30:03
melts in your mouth!
and perhaps also in your hands...
and any other place you decide to put it.
BobR on 05/29/2008 14:30:03
Quote by Raine:
Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?
melts in your mouth!
and perhaps also in your hands...
and any other place you decide to put it.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:30:11
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:30:11
Whass'up Tri? Too much salt in the mine?
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:30:36
O. Mah. Gawd.
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:30:36
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.
I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:
:rofl:
O. Mah. Gawd.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:31:57
I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole.
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:31:57
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?
melts in your mouth!
and perhaps also in your hands...
and any other place you decide to put it.
I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:34:30
All is fine as far as I can tell :)
wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:34:30
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning Mala. How are things in DC?
All is fine as far as I can tell :)
Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:35:10
wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:35:10
I miss Dinner and a Movie.
Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:36:05
Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:36:05
Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!
Do we all need a time-out?
Do we all need a time-out?
Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:37:23
TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:37:23
I feel like Lot's wife.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:39:42
It would get awfully crowded in the penalty box.
livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:39:42
Quote by Shane-O:
Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!
Do we all need a time-out?
It would get awfully crowded in the penalty box.
Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:41:45
TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:41:45
See, and everyone is in here drinking beer and playing with chocolate appendages.
:kickcan:
:kickcan:
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:45:16
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:45:16
Tri, here
and
and
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:46:58
:boobs2::penis::boobs2:
Why you ask?
:D Just because I can.
Raine on 05/29/2008 14:46:58
Why you ask?
:D Just because I can.
Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:47:27
Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:47:27
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Shane-O:
Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!
Do we all need a time-out?
It would get awfully crowded in the penalty box.