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The accidental Governor
Author: Raine    Date: 05/29/2008 11:27:35

First a little history. Many of you may recall back that in 2004, San Fransisco Mayor, Gavin Newsom allowed gay couples to marry. As a result, in the state of NY, New Paltlz Mayor Jason West decided to do the same. Sadly, NYS decided to uphold it's ban on same sex marriages the following year.

Since then, Massachusetts has recognized same sex marriage, and California has overturned it's ban on Gay marriages. Many states now recognize civil unions, which is a giant leap in the right direction. The biggest problem has been that these marriages are not recognized legally once a couple leaves the state. It seems as tho one man is changing that.

I am talking about David Paterson, the man who took the helm after Eliot Spizter had to leave office. He was never really meant to be the guy in charge of NYS. This man has taken a bold step forward. I think this approach makes sense, considering the situation. Please note that the bold face is mine.
From the NYT:
Gov. David A. Paterson has directed all state agencies to begin to revise their policies and regulations to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, like Massachusetts, California and Canada.

In a directive issued on May 14, the governor’s legal counsel, David Nocenti, instructed the agencies that gay couples married elsewhere “should be afforded the same recognition as any other legally performed union.”

The revisions are most likely to involve as many as 1,300 statutes and regulations in New York governing everything from joint filing of income tax returns to transferring fishing licenses between spouses.

In a videotaped message given to gay community leaders at a dinner on May 17, Mr. Paterson described the move as “a strong step toward marriage equality.” And people on both sides of the issue said it moved the state closer to fully legalizing same-sex unions in this state.
[...]
Massachusetts and California are the only states that have legalized gay marriage, while others, including New Jersey and Vermont, allow civil unions. Forty-one states have laws limiting marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Legal experts said Mr. Paterson’s decision would make New York the only state that did not itself allow gay marriage but fully recognized same-sex unions entered into elsewhere.
[...]
The appeals court said that New York must recognize marriages performed in other states that allow the practice and in countries that permit it, like Canada and Spain.


The Constitution of the United states of America, states:
Article IV, Section 2:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

What Patterson is doing is a precedent. I know that Canada is not a state, but in this line of thinking, regarding the definition of *several* it would be fair to include states like Vermont, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. Whatever those states grant couples, NYS will grant as well. It is in the constitution, it is a state right. The privileges of some become the privileges of all.

What I predict is that we wiil see in the coming months, many states adopt this policy. The flood gates will open. If you are fortunate enough to have a governor with a *D* next to their name, I urge you to call or write them a letter and ask them to do the same.

I think we will see in our day couples having the same rights equally and NOT different. The tides are turning. if things keep moving this way, the defense of Marriage Act will become something to be tossed into the dustbin of history. Until then, NYS will recognize you as a couple, whoever you. Good on you accidental Governor.

:peace: and
Raine

 

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Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 12:42:58
Nice Post.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2008 12:49:36
Morning Raine, Random..



:martini: for David Patterson!

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:52:54
Great post Raine.

I mentioned last week, that I had to fill out forms for insurance for myself and my partner. Now one of the things I had to do was have a form notarized that we lived together and did not have other sexual partners! (That wasn't the wording, but it was the implication).



I mean, a man could be married and fooling around with several women that he has set up in love shacks.......... but he wouldn't have to have this notarized!! What a CROCK!



(Note: Let me be CLEAR! I am NOT seeing other people. Aunt Azalea is my one and only!!. Just let me be verrrrrrry clear about that).



:lol:

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 12:59:36
btw: a must-read today Arianna's blog on HuffPo re: Puffy McMoon Face. She really calls him out.



Just wondering........... with all these bush hacks coming out and writing books to get the blood off their hand............ I wonder how people would have felt if Nazi criminals like Mengele had gotten book deals!



[No, I'm not comparing them to Nazi's - just reminding ya'll that people have died because of the lies].

Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 13:10:54
Mornin' all! Well, it looks like the administration is trying to drag Puffy under the bus with him. They're puzzled, Jerry, puzzled!

Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 13:12:05
Quote by clintster:

Mornin' all! Well, it looks like the administration is trying to drag Puffy under the bus with him. They're puzzled, Jerry, puzzled!


I'm puzzled, they're puzzled...

Take a peek at Dubya's word of the day calender, money says yesterday's word was "Puzzled"

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2008 13:14:18
Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 13:17:13
Oh My God! He is actually blaming Puffy for the cockup that is he Bush administration?



Worst President EVAH!

Comment by m-hadley on 05/29/2008 13:24:35
Mornin' everybody :coffee:

Excellent post, Raine. Just wanted to point out another good piece on AlterNet, entitled "What's the Matter with Oklahoma?" I think you all know that there is plenty wrong with Okie-ville, according to me. I'm going into work later this morning - am heading back to bed right now. Later gators.

Cheers,

mfaye :D



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:37:12
Good morning everyone.



Glad to see that David Patterson is moving forward after the 12 year fiasco that was the Pataki Governorship.

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 13:40:36
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 13:44:21
Everyone's slowly trickling into the waking world?



Any word on or ? They have been MIA for a couple of days now.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 13:53:21
Good morning everyone!

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 13:55:24
Quote by livingonli:

Everyone's slowly trickling into the waking world?



Any word on or ? They have been MIA for a couple of days now.


:star: has been busy with work... went out of town for Mem. Day... she might still be on vaca....

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:00:00
Good morning Raine. How's tricks?

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:01:01
Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.

Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:01:12
OK, so some on the right can't let go of Auschwitzgate (and BTW, can we let go of the labeling of any political controversy as (blank)gate?), so a RW blogger named Steve Gilbert decided to confirm his suspicions about Obama's great-uncle not actually existing. The results can be found here:



http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html



There was also a followup e-mail to Mr. Gilbert saying:



From: Mark Kitchell

Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:47 AM

To: Steve Gilbert

Subject: Re: Any Record Of Charles W Payne?



I don’t claim to represent anyone. You are the one who came to my son and I asking for information.



Please spend ample time chasing down the lies fed to you by chickenhawks Bush & Co. Like 90% of this administration, they don’t have the foggiest idea what we went through or what we saw at Ohrdruf.





Subsequently, the 89th Infantry decided to clarify the issue once and for all:



http://www.89infdivww2.org/



Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:02:45
Morning all! How's everyone?



I liked your post, Raine. I never really understood how the Defense of Marriage Act could trump the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:08:12
Good morning, Shane-O and Clintster. Come join the party.

Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:10:41
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning, Shane-O and Clintster. Come join the party.




Thankees, I believe I will. Guinness?



:beer:



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:13:11
Larry King never heard of the GPS. Well, then again my old car doesn't have one.



But does Larry King still drive a horse and buggy?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:13:53
Morning :hug:

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:14:51
So am I the only one who found Kiki McLean rather disturbing last night?

Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:16:28
Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:17:34
Quote by Shane-O:

Morning all! How's everyone?



I liked your post, Raine. I never really understood how the Defense of Marriage Act could trump the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution.
Honestly, I do not either, It seems as tho it was legitimate, until we started finding ourselves with states that decided to institute thier own rights. DOMA technically imo, was never constitutional, now it seems as tho we finally have proof for it to be overturned.



What we need is for a supreme court that actually will do so...



Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:17:56
Quote by livingonli:

Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.


I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:

:rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:18:16
Quote by Shane-O:

Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!




Beer was created by monks as a liquid bread, so it works.



Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:19:09
Quote by Shane-O:

Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!


wow - that took a lot of arm-twisting... :rolleyes:



remember - it's always 5:00 PM somewhere in the world...

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:19:16
Quote by Shane-O:

Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
Clinster and Shane-O:

:beer:



There you go! with a perfect head!



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:19:59
Good morning Mala. How are things in DC?

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:20:35
Quote by Raine:

Honestly, I do not either, It seems as tho it was legitimate, until we started finding ourselves with states that decided to institute thier own rights. DOMA technically imo, was never constitutional, now it seems as tho we finally have proof for it to be overturned.



What we need is for a supreme court that actually will do so...



I believe JD was saying that a case is working it's way to the SCOTUS (if not there already). Perhaps when she shows up she can elucidate us.



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:22:14
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.


I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:

:rofl:


All I've been doing this morning is typing. Maybe part of me is still asleep.



:D

Comment by clintster on 05/29/2008 14:22:48
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Oh dear - Guinness -- 10 a.m. -- OK!
Clinster and Shane-O:

:beer:



There you go! with a perfect head!





Ahhh, just the way I like it.



Beer; mother's milk!!!

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:25:17
Quote by clintster:





Ahhh, just the way I like it.



Beer; mother's milk!!!


Keegan Ales in NY has a beer called Mother's Milk, and yes it is.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:27:55
Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:29:02
Quote by Raine:

Clinster and Shane-O:

:beer:



There you go! with a perfect head!



When I'm drinking beer, I like good head...



A good head!





oops.

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:29:12
*grunt*



Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:30:03
Quote by Raine:

Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?


melts in your mouth!



and perhaps also in your hands...



and any other place you decide to put it.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:30:11
Whass'up Tri? Too much salt in the mine?

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:30:36
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

Before I was typing, my right hand fell asleep.


I do NOT need to know the details! TMI!!! :wank:

:rofl:




O. Mah. Gawd.



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:31:57
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Chocloate Penis that didn't melt?


melts in your mouth!



and perhaps also in your hands...



and any other place you decide to put it.


I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:34:30
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning Mala. How are things in DC?




All is fine as far as I can tell :)



Comment by wickedpam on 05/29/2008 14:35:10
I miss Dinner and a Movie.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:36:05
Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!



Do we all need a time-out?

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:37:23
I feel like Lot's wife.



http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/salt_pillar.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:39:42
Quote by Shane-O:

Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!



Do we all need a time-out?


It would get awfully crowded in the penalty box.

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 14:41:45
See, and everyone is in here drinking beer and playing with chocolate appendages.



:kickcan:





Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:45:16
Tri, here



and

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:46:58
:boobs2::penis::boobs2:






Why you ask?

:D Just because I can.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/29/2008 14:47:27
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Shane-O:

Dang - this blog is getting raunchy this a.m.!



Do we all need a time-out?


It would get awfully crowded in the penalty box.


Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:47:28
Poor Tri.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:48:51
caller is correct about the billboards down here.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:49:23
Quote by Raine:

:boobs2::penis::boobs2:






Why you ask?

:D Just because I can.


That's our Raine.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 14:49:59
OoooOOOH! Momma come to atlanta!

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 14:50:42
Atlanta representin'!!



:: painfully embarrassing white-boy hip-hop posturing ::

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:53:19
You know, the high number of on-line listeners to Momma on the internet indicate that it could definitely be peddled to an Atlanta radio station for a pickup. Maybe someone can get through one of those dense program directors.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 14:56:10
Now I just wonder how many people are listening in the New York area since I would still like Momma to be on a New York station.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:06:05
:poke: maybe more people need to call in and represent from the metro area...

Comment by m-hadley on 05/29/2008 15:08:37
My Goodness, Oh Dear,

I step away from the blog long enough to drive to work and when I come back "sexy talk" has broken out - I love it

Cheers,

mfaye :D

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:13:08
From the no Sh*t Sherlock department: Reporter says ABC killed critical White Stories



I think that Puffy's book is acting like a catharsis for many journalists. We KNEW this shite all along, and I remember being told I was delusional.







Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 15:14:00
I've listened to liberal programming exclusively over the internet, except for that brief period when we had a low-wattage AM station in Boston.



Of course, we still get Rush on 850am (same station as the Red Sox, imagine my horror!), and Michael Savage and Jay Severin on WTKK (FM).

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:14:45
I wonder how Dan Rather is feeling about all of this puffy stuff this morning.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:19:19
Ok, that house sounds insane. and wrong.



I dunno if Angelina can still be my woman crush.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:23:09
Angelina's kids and allowing them to get away with everything are the kind of kids that make people who don't have children glad they don't have them.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2008 15:26:46
Alright you crazy kids.. that's enough! I'm bringin' some edumucation back to this here thread! Namely.. physics.



http://www.neoterrastudios.com/remoteResources/xkcd/equationgirls.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:28:34
It's that letter writer who's a looser and a moran.



She sounds like she's in an even bigger bubble than Bush. The only way the GOP can win anything this year is if they flat out steal the election.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2008 15:31:17
Quote by TriSec:

I've listened to liberal programming exclusively over the internet, except for that brief period when we had a low-wattage AM station in Boston.



Of course, we still get Rush on 850am (same station as the Red Sox, imagine my horror!), and Michael Savage and Jay Severin on WTKK (FM).


Wait a sec.. You mean there's real Hate Speech Radio on the air up there besides those two idiots on in the morning on WEEI?

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 15:33:35
Question for the assembled...



At what point in time is a news story no longer considered "breaking"?



You may have heard about the fatal train wreck in Boston last night....it happened just after 6pm, but the general media was reporting it as a "breaking news story" well past 10pm.





Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:34:50
WWRL is a crappy 1KW in the daytime and drops down at night to the point that it can't even be heard in parts of Staten Island.



On the other hand, the 50K flamethrower clear-channel frequency WABC runs Imus, Rush, Hannity, Marc Levin, and Laura Ingrahm. And they even brought back that ugly racist Bob Grant. The Weiner Savage runs over on WOR.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:36:40
Well people who watch Fox News spend the most time watching it for news and claim to be the most informed while proving to be the most ignorant about current events.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:37:53
It would be a bit uncomfortable if Erik Estrada had to come and arrest you, duncha think?

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/29/2008 15:40:43
Burkas and german. All in one video. For your amusement only.





Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 15:41:52
Quote by Scoopster:

Alright you crazy kids.. that's enough! I'm bringin' some edumucation back to this here thread! Namely.. physics.



http://www.neoterrastudios.com/remoteResources/xkcd/equationgirls.jpg


You're bringing edumacation back!



that's punny!! :P

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 15:44:43
Quote by Raine:

From the no Sh*t Sherlock department: Reporter says ABC killed critical White Stories



I think that Puffy's book is acting like a catharsis for many journalists. We KNEW this shite all along, and I remember being told I was delusional.





If I remember correctly, the White House was essentially writing the stories themselves...



Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 15:47:41
Quote by velveeta jones:

Burkas and german. All in one video. For your amusement only.





wow - that's just... awful. :wacko:

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:49:44
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

From the no Sh*t Sherlock department: Reporter says ABC killed critical White Stories



I think that Puffy's book is acting like a catharsis for many journalists. We KNEW this shite all along, and I remember being told I was delusional.





If I remember correctly, the White House was essentially writing the stories themselves...



Who needs state-run media when the M$M does the government's dirty work for them.

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 15:55:33
Quote by Scoopster:



Wait a sec.. You mean there's real Hate Speech Radio on the air up there besides those two idiots on in the morning on WEEI?




Oh yes, we're very hateful around here.



The very reverend James Dobson is also available on the religious station in the morning. (590 am).



I only listen to the Sox and WBZ on the *real* radio these days.





Comment by m-hadley on 05/29/2008 15:55:44
Quote by Raine:

Ok, that house sounds insane. and wrong.



I dunno if Angelina can still be my woman crush.




Heya Raine,

Think Gia - I'd do her or let her do me She can leave the kiddies with Brad.

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 15:57:47
ok, Faye, she is back on my list. That woman just does something for me...

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 15:58:11
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Scoopster:



Wait a sec.. You mean there's real Hate Speech Radio on the air up there besides those two idiots on in the morning on WEEI?




Oh yes, we're very hateful around here.



The very reverend James Dobson is also available on the religious station in the morning. (590 am).



I only listen to the Sox and WBZ on the *real* radio these days.





Did you ever consider getting satellite radio?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/29/2008 16:07:15
Quote by BobR:

You're bringing edumacation back!



that's punny!! :P


Oh my.. did I make an unintentional ha-ha?! :lol:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/29/2008 16:08:24
Quote by Raine:

It would be a bit uncomfortable if Erik Estrada had to come and arrest you, duncha think?




I don't think I could hear my rights through the hysterical laughter. After his stint on reality TV, who would take this nitwit seriously. I know LAPD is desperate, but really.

Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 16:14:26
I almost did, right before XM and Sirius started talking about merging. I gave up after that.





Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/29/2008 16:16:08
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

Ok, that house sounds insane. and wrong.



I dunno if Angelina can still be my woman crush.




Heya Raine,

Think Gia - I'd do her or let her do me She can leave the kiddies with Brad.

Cheers,

mfaye









Sorry, Angelina gives me a major case of the skeeves. I'm sure her children will contribute to society along the lines of Paris Hilton. You really can't start teaching narcissism too early. OY!

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 16:43:20
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

From the no Sh*t Sherlock department: Reporter says ABC killed critical White Stories



I think that Puffy's book is acting like a catharsis for many journalists. We KNEW this shite all along, and I remember being told I was delusional.





If I remember correctly, the White House was essentially writing the stories themselves...



I am recalling Armstrong Williams and I believe it was called, the Lincoln group. So yes, they were writing the stories.



Why NOW THIS book is causing such an outrage, is beyond me.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 17:04:39
Quote by TriSec:

I almost did, right before XM and Sirius started talking about merging. I gave up after that.





Supposedly the FCC review should be done soon and we will know if the merger will get a go ahead.



Strangely enough, the two companies will still have to continue to operate separately in Canada due to CRTC regulations that the carriers agreed to when they were granted license to sell to the Canadian market.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 18:49:50
For those that were listening to thom, he is correct, the stars ARE upside down in the GOP logo.



That is really scary. (back to painting)

Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 18:59:22
Quote by Raine:

For those that were listening to thom, he is correct, the stars ARE upside down in the GOP logo.



That is really scary. (back to painting)


yep, just like the satanists:

http://img.infoplease.com/images/party_republican.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 20:01:54
Satanists use a pentagram with two points up, often inscribed in a double circle, with the head of a goat inside the pentagram. This is referred to as the Sigil of Baphomet. They use it much the same way as the Pythagoreans, as Tartaros literally translates from Greek as a "Pit" or "Void" in Christian terminology (the word is used as such in the Bible, referring to the place where the fallen angels are fettered). The Pythagorean Greek letters are most often replaced by the Hebrew letters לויתן forming the name Leviathan. Less esoteric LaVeyan Satanists use it as a sign of rebellion or religious identification, the three downward points symbolising rejection of the holy Trinity



~from Wikipedia...





Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 20:32:40
There's a report circulating that the driver of the fatal train may have been on her damn cell phone at the time of the crash.



A common practice among MBTA personnel, I might add. I've seen more busdrivers than I can count yammering away while there were passengers on board...





Comment by m-hadley on 05/29/2008 20:59:50


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/GOPFEAR.jpg




I hope I did this correctly - I think that this image says it all :(

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 21:02:26
Randi has been rather good and scathing today, despite her trying to take credit for being the only person who was speaking out before the war.



Thanks for the credit for the bloggers Randi.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/29/2008 21:04:46
Ooops, I didn't mean to make it so BIG - but I am a techno-retard, so I guess it is as it is.... Sorry!

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 21:27:49
Quote by m-hadley:

Ooops, I didn't mean to make it so BIG - but I am a techno-retard, so I guess it is as it is.... Sorry!

Cheers,

mfaye
The size is fine, Faye!



Nice graphic.



I myself, am still a bit stunned the the GOP has upside down stars. This is the party of the Moralistic right? the God party?



I thought Thom's arguments about the GOP party (as we know it now) being a cult, intriguing and curious at first, but the more he talks about it, the more I think he may really be on to something.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 21:43:50
What will it take to put the primary to rest?





















http://www.keystotherain.net/potspanscowbell.jpg




Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 21:47:33
...My faith in man kind has dwindled once again



Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 21:59:54
I think I need a nap.

Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 22:02:11
Quote by Raine:

Randi has been rather good and scathing today, despite her trying to take credit for being the only person who was speaking out before the war.



Thanks for the credit for the bloggers Randi.


I remember listening to Democracy Now! a number of times before the war and he was right on the money since he was there in the 90's unlike the fear inducing navel gazing right-wing blowholes who were trying to force this war on us.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 22:18:54
Quote by Random:

...My faith in man kind has dwindled once again

it was a joke Random... I hope you know that.

:hug:



I certainly don't want to be a part of your disillusioning of mankind. My snark always gives me hope.



I am still painting today.



Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 22:38:11
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

...My faith in man kind has dwindled once again

it was a joke Random... I hope you know that.

:hug:



I certainly don't want to be a part of your disillusioning of mankind. My snark always gives me hope.



I am still painting today.

I was talking about the protestors...not (what appears to be) Wil Ferrell.



Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 22:52:50
ahhhh. I see.





It was pretty sad, eh?



I would LOVE to see pictures like that with the word FOX instead. This comes down to knowing the enemy, somewhere, MSNBC became the enemy to this campaign and FOX became the ally.



Am I the only one who sees a problem with that?





Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 22:55:58
Quote by Raine:

ahhhh. I see.





It was pretty sad, eh?



I would LOVE to see pictures like that with the word FOX instead. This comes down to knowing the enemy, somewhere, MSNBC became the enemy to this campaign and FOX became the ally.



Am I the only one who sees a problem with that?





not at all, but the axiom is "Enemy of my Enemy is my friend." MSNBC is the Enemy. *sighs* people listen to what they like, it's the sad truth.

Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 23:01:23
REMINDER!





PUFFY (aka Scooty McClellan) will be on KO this evening.







Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 23:03:59
I'm in class...thanks for reminding me Raine..

Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 23:07:23
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Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:05:51
I've got Puffy on.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:09:13
DAMN!!!



Somewhere, there should be some impeachment articles being typed. Along side some warrants!!



Puffy!! :rage:

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:15:10
Really Scott? You thought W was gonna come in and clean up Washington? Because he did such a good job as Gov. of TX?



Really?





Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:17:29
There's being credulous and then there's being Puffy.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:17:52
Yes, I'd like to hear that. Why Scott? Why didn't you "mention" this stuff sooner? Peoples lives could have been saved!!



Oh......... but then, there's the ................. book Deal. $$$$$$$$

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:24:35
Just like the press, let's not question the "leader" because of 9-11.

Comment by Raine on 05/30/2008 00:26:50
Good god, it seems as tho when I DO get to see KO, I will be at LEAST as outraged as you VJ.



I am assuming KO is asking good questions.



We needed this watershed moment years ago... and sadly, it seems as tho the MSM was willing to ignore it then... (remember the Downing Street Memo?)

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:38:33
I do, I do. If we had an honest system in this country, everyone would have known what we knew years ago.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:42:45
What!?! FOX news is a propaganda machine?





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:44:46
Oh? You're not watching this Raine? I'll try not to give it away. Much.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:49:19
I guess Raine must be DVRing it.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 00:51:04
Puffy took most of the show. He'll need a big box of mallomars after that.



John Dean is next.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/30/2008 00:51:05
Damn!



:clap:





Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:04:02
Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:06:02
Help meeeeeee

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:10:36
Sounds like Random is having a rough day.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:11:12
Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:12:07
Quote by livingonli:

Sounds like Random is having a rough day.


think of it this way, spend 3 hours listening to the most boring professor talk about the most boring subject.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:15:32
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:17:07
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.


Ha...I love me them Blazing Saddles

Where the white women at?

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:19:14
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Sounds like Random is having a rough day.


think of it this way, spend 3 hours listening to the most boring professor talk about the most boring subject.


I've been there. And that's why I never went to grad school besides the fact I didn't want to add to my debt and already had a job.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:20:51
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Sounds like Random is having a rough day.


think of it this way, spend 3 hours listening to the most boring professor talk about the most boring subject.


I've been there. And that's why I never went to grad school besides the fact I didn't want to add to my debt and already had a job.


Random mesauring distance between floor and light fixture right now in Random's head.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:21:06
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.


Ha...I love me them Blazing Saddles

Where the white women at?


And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:23:08
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.


Ha...I love me them Blazing Saddles

Where the white women at?


And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens.


Are we awake

I don't know, are we black



Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 01:28:03
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.


Ha...I love me them Blazing Saddles

Where the white women at?


And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens.


Are we awake

I don't know, are we black



Gabby Johnson is right. Not only is that authentic frontier gibberish.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:30:00
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!


what are you worried about? It's 1864, you could sue her.


Well played, sir.


Ha...I love me them Blazing Saddles

Where the white women at?


And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens.


Are we awake

I don't know, are we black



Gabby Johnson is right. Not only is that authentic frontier gibberish.


I believe he specifically said two n******, just between you and me, my grandmother was dutch

(bound to happen sooner or later, the word's used enough in the film)

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 01:30:15
Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!






Damnit! I was gonna post that! Well played Livin!

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:31:59
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by livingonli:

Harvey Korman is dead.



Look, it's Hedey Lamarr.

That's Hedley!






Damnit! I was gonna post that! Well played Livin!


A sad day for comedy.



Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:33:11
O.O it just occured to me, Baracks "theme song" should be the one from Blazing Saddles, it'd be perfect.



Comment by Raine on 05/30/2008 01:34:13
Scotty did not make me outraged.

The interview blew me away.



Going to watch the season finale of LOST...

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:36:45


Comment by Raine on 05/30/2008 01:38:24
Quote by velveeta jones:

Damn!



:clap:



I thought it wsa a great interview .









Comment by Raine on 05/30/2008 01:44:06
Mike Malloy Just called Scotty Puffy McMoonface... :rofl:

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 01:45:27
*is all alone now*

*whistling for a moment before realizing i can't whistle.*

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/30/2008 01:59:42
RIP Harvey Korman. He was hilarious!



Hedley Lamarr to Lili Von Stupp: Shut up, you Teutonic twat!



Where's my froggy?

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 02:05:07
Daddy loves froggy.



Froggy love daddy?



:squeak squeak:

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 02:07:40
Quote by Raine:

Mike Malloy Just called Scotty Puffy McMoonface... :rofl:


It is contagious isn't it. He is a big fan of Momma. He used to use simple Scotty with the quacking duck.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 02:28:07
I'm Here, I'm....RANDOM!

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 02:31:49
It's the power of Random.

Comment by Random on 05/30/2008 02:36:56
Random owns your souls.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 02:45:54
Anyone listening to Mark Crispin Miller on Mike Malloy?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 02:47:14
Reno 911 :rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 02:52:31
Mr Lamar, you use you tongue pretty n a two dollar whore.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 02:55:51
Quote by Raine:

OoooOOOH! Momma come to atlanta!






Ohhh WHEN! WHHHHEEEEEEEN! Can I sleep on yer half ton sleeper sofa huh? :rains hitsies on Raine's and Bobber's arms: Hun can I?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 02:59:12
Dangle: Iraq is under the nutsack of the fuckin' Devil. :rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/30/2008 03:01:45
I have mused! Thank you! Thank you very much!

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 03:01:49
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

OoooOOOH! Momma come to atlanta!






Ohhh WHEN! WHHHHEEEEEEEN! Can I sleep on yer half ton sleeper sofa huh? :rains hitsies on Raine's and Bobber's arms: Hun can I?


We need to know. Although I am still hoping for a New York appearance.

Comment by livingonli on 05/30/2008 04:25:28
Tonight's contribution to late night music video theater.





Comment by MMB on 05/30/2008 04:37:30
Wow that's quite a bargain