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Author: TriSec    Date: 07/19/2008 10:24:25

Good Morning!

I've got to run a bit earlier than usual this morning...the Red Cross has re-done their appointment schedule and now the first one is at 7:30 instead of 8:00, so my apologies if this is a little choppier than usual.

By now you probably heard that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are in a good deal of trouble. There's a bailout on our dime in the works, but of course there's another opinion. Some Libertarians think they should be allowed to fail.
"Let them fail," says Libertarian Party spokesperson Andrew Davis, referring to the mortgage institutions Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, who the Bush administration has said it plans to rescue from financial collapse.

"Let them fail, and let them learn from their mistakes on their own dime," says Davis. "Bailing out these two institutions will only delay the inevitable outcome of any financial firm insulated from the market by government backing. The long run damage of continuing a policy of bailouts far exceeds any short term woes in letting the market consume failing institutions."

The Libertarian Party is calling for an end to government bailouts, which it equates to nothing more than welfare for businessmen. The Party believes that government support of these institutions decreases the incentive to make responsible decisions, and unfairly socializes the risk--putting taxpayers on the line for costly mistakes.

"It's like giving more candy to problem children," says Davis. "Lenders should recognize that there are repercussions for risky loans, and borrowers should realize that there are consequences for taking loans they can't repay. If it's financial collapse, or having your house foreclosed--so be it. It's bad economics to remove the incentives, even if they are negative, which encourage sensible and responsible decisions."

The Party says Freddie and Fannie should be fully independent of government support, and subject to the same levels of market competition other firms face.

"I could not agree more with the editorial page of yesterday's Financial Times when it said that the current structure of these institutions cannot be maintained, and that government should prepare a 'decent burial' for them," says Libertarian Party National Chairman William Redpath. "Freddie and Fannie are not needed for mortgage finance in the United States. No credible commentator thinks that the failure of these two institutions would add even as much as one percentage point over the long-term to mortgage rates. Congress and the President need to quickly move Fannie and Freddie to privatization with no strings attached to the federal government and taxpayer."


I hate to compare myself to any Republican (since the only similarity we generally share is being an air-breathing mammal), but I don't pretend to know anything about economics, so I guess that makes me like Sen. McCain in that regard.



So....let's take a look at some drugs. No, not Januvia silly....Crystal Meth! The National Libertarian party has a reputation for being the party of guns and drugs, so I guess I wont be helping much with this today. But I do have two stories that kind of dovetail neatly together. First....another drug war rant.
When I tell people in meatspace conversations that I’m opposed to drug prohibition, I frequently get a look of utter astonishment: “You mean people ought to just be able to take crack, or meth, or whatever, whenever they feel like it?”

Well, the point is they can already do that right now. If you look at countries like the Netherlands, where pot is for all intents and purposes legal, and private possession and use of the hard stuff is virtually decriminalized, the actual rates of drug use are probably at or below those in the United States.

So essentially, we’ve allowed our country to be taken over by gangs and organized crime syndicates fighting to control the black markets in illegal drugs. We’ve created lawless, militarized police forces that view us as an occupied enemy, sadistic bastards who taser people in diabetic comas to death for “resisting arrest,” and murder 92-year-old women in their sleep in botched SWAT team raids. We’ve gutted the due process provisions of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments, which are now kept around mainly as examples of good penmanship. We’ve got the highest rate of incarceration in the entire world–greater than Communist China–and a massive prison-industrial complex using slave labor. We are literally at the mercy of beasts of prey in SS chic uniforms. We’ve corrupted our society to the core. And we’ve done it all for nothing.

The corruption of our society includes turning the cops themselves into the biggest criminal gangs of all, under the corrupting influence of all that drug money. Only the cops’ approach to gang warfare involves building a petty empire of planted evidence, jailhouse snitches, entrapment, plea extortion, and civil forfeiture.

The biggest fans of Prohibition were the bootleggers–probably even more than the Baptists, who served as their useful idiots.

Today, most people would probably be amazed at how much of the leading “drug warrior” politicians’ campaign funds consist of laundered money from the drug cartels. As Larry Gambone says,

The point has to be made that whether the figure is $100 billion or $400 billion it is a lot of money and the gangs cannot account for more than a fraction of it. The rest has to be somewhere else and the most likely set of suspects are the people who are already handling billions of dollars such as the offshore money laundries connected to “legitimate” financial institutions or the folks who already have a history of involvement in high-level drug trafficking, namely the CIA….

….The people most vociferous in their support for the so-called War on Drugs are the people, or are associates of the people, who profit from the drug trade at the higher levels.

One thing the illegal drug trade is good for is raising lots and lots of cash. And the biggest organized criminals of them all are probably the shadow warriors of the CIA, using the international drug trade to raise money for criminals and terrorists in the employ of the United States government.



It's interesting that the author would mention prohibition....on yet another blog, I ran across a police officer posting a snippet in response to a news story out of Chicago, where the governor wants to call in the State Police and National Guard to help with a crime wave, but Mayor Daley is not so sure.

Is Chicago's crime problem caused by the modern day Prohibition? Is it street gangs fighting it out for drug turf?

Then Chicago I can offer a suggestion that will reduce your crime and violence by well over 50%. Interested? I am a retired police officer and member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (www.leap.cc) and we believe that legalizing drugs, implementing a system of regulation and control is a far more moral way to fight drug than incarceration. But to regulate anything it must be legal. So, legalize drugs and put the modern day Al Capones out of business overnight. Then the police will be able to confront and control the regular crime. It will save the city millions of dollars in costs too and then Chicago might be able to build a few parks and recreation centers to help keep the kids out of trouble. Just a thought but you might want to think about it.



I suppose that's true to some extent...after all, when was the last time anyone was shot over a case of whiskey? But crime is crime...legalize drugs and they'll move on to the next thing.


So...we'll leave it at that today. Got some summer weather going here in the Northeast; stay cool!



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Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 11:44:29
Good morning!



Great post, an intersting subject. I have known many addicts (different subject but connected) and I am convinced the addiction and abuse is driven by the user not the drug - well before chemical addiction takes hold the user has to be willing to do the drug enough to get addicted.



Drugs, addiction, chemical abuses are medical issues not criminal. As if spending time in jail will effect the behavior? If fear of incarceration really worked nobody would ever start doing drugs.



When the government outlaws a drug, psychoactive or even tobacco a black market is created.



These black markets create their own hierarchy and because it is outside the law the most successful outlaw is also the most successful.



The government is not in a position to say alcohol is okay (kills 17K a year by auto) and weed is not (kills ?) yet that is what it has done.



The government says it is the same crime if I take a pain pill prescribed to Joy if I am in pain? That makes no sense to me.



(I need coffee)



---Watching "Heavy Metal" Corsair -----(Hist CH)



Would be thinking of Trisec this morning no matter what!





Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 12:04:05
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/19/2008 12:34:00
Morning everyone. Ug. Velveeta is very sleepy.



But I can say with assurance that TriSec is no "John McCain" - that's for sure!! Smarter, sweeter and better looking! :D



Anywho. Most of you know I'm in recovery. I'm a bit torn on this issue of decriminalization. I agree that part of the lure in the drug world is the attitude of "fuck everything/I hate the world/nobody loves me/I don't care" and having to get your drugs in shadowy dangerous places adds to that "fuck it" feeling. So, having to buy your drugs from a nice clean cut man at the drug store would be weird! On the other hand, do you really want your Federal, State and City government making tax money off the illness' of people? Not to mention corporations!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 14:01:49
Good morning all.



Just taking a short break at work while the air conditioner in this test chamber recovers itself. One nice thing about working today is that while it's going to be 95+ outside and it's normally very damp and stuffy in the building on the weekends, in this little room it's 68 degrees and nice and dry. So, I'm gonna stay cool....



I'm doing static discharge testing today so the room has to be kept within close humidity limits, but every once in a while this air conditioner freaks out and the humidity zooms up, so I have to turn it off for a few minutes, then turn it back on. The smallest unit they could get is still too large for this room. I get to be here tomorrow as well - plenty of OT this week.



Well, we've already got the government making money off a habit that kills - cigarettes, but only because certain states make a bundle providing the stuff, and they make money off of other illnesses - like gambling and alcohol addictions. So we add substances like pot to the mix.....shrug



As George Carlin would say - "Beer leads to heroin, that's a fact. In fact, mother's milk leads to everything"

Comment by BobR on 07/19/2008 14:03:46
Quote by velveeta jones:

On the other hand, do you really want your Federal, State and City government making tax money off the illness' of people? Not to mention corporations!


They already do, with tobacco, alcohol, and every prescription drug alrady on the market. The tax money generated could be earmarked for treatment of addicts (kind of like how lottery revenues are generally targeted for education - at least here in GA).



Part of the decriminalization should allow people to grow their own weed (similar to how people - like me - can make their own beer). If they want to sell it, however, then they need to collect and turn in the taxes...





Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 14:16:53
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Good morning all.



Just taking a short break at work while the air conditioner in this test chamber recovers itself. One nice thing about working today is that while it's going to be 95+ outside and it's normally very damp and stuffy in the building on the weekends, in this little room it's 68 degrees and nice and dry. So, I'm gonna stay cool....



I'm doing static discharge testing today so the room has to be kept within close humidity limits, but every once in a while this air conditioner freaks out and the humidity zooms up, so I have to turn it off for a few minutes, then turn it back on. The smallest unit they could get is still too large for this room. I get to be here tomorrow as well - plenty of OT this week.



Well, we've already got the government making money off a habit that kills - cigarettes, but only because certain states make a bundle providing the stuff, and they make money off of other illnesses - like gambling and alcohol addictions. So we add substances like pot to the mix.....shrug



As George Carlin would say - "Beer leads to heroin, that's a fact. In fact, mother's milk leads to everything"






Dr Ray Stantz: You know, it just occurred to me that we really haven't had a successful test of this equipment.



Dr. Egon Spengler: I blame myself.



Dr. Peter Venkman: So do I.



Dr Ray Stantz: Well, no sense in worrying about it now.



Dr. Peter Venkman: Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.







Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 14:25:44
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

~ Hunter S. Thompson


Comment by velveeta jones on 07/19/2008 14:26:07
Yeah, I agree with ya'll. Its just that making $ off of people's addictions - and I include alcohol here - is just unseemly. Cigs prove my point, natural tobacco is relatively harmless, but in the hands of big CORP become addictive substances. They add chemicals into the cigs to make them more addictive. Imagine what they could do with Meth!



:thud:



Oh, and imagine who they would be targeting for addiction/death. Hint: "black" people.

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 14:28:43
Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas ... with the music at top volume and at least a pint of ether.

~ Hunter S. Thompson (1939 - 2005), "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"


Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 14:41:24
Quote by capt:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Good morning all.



Just taking a short break at work while the air conditioner in this test chamber recovers itself. One nice thing about working today is that while it's going to be 95+ outside and it's normally very damp and stuffy in the building on the weekends, in this little room it's 68 degrees and nice and dry. So, I'm gonna stay cool....



I'm doing static discharge testing today so the room has to be kept within close humidity limits, but every once in a while this air conditioner freaks out and the humidity zooms up, so I have to turn it off for a few minutes, then turn it back on. The smallest unit they could get is still too large for this room. I get to be here tomorrow as well - plenty of OT this week.



Well, we've already got the government making money off a habit that kills - cigarettes, but only because certain states make a bundle providing the stuff, and they make money off of other illnesses - like gambling and alcohol addictions. So we add substances like pot to the mix.....shrug



As George Carlin would say - "Beer leads to heroin, that's a fact. In fact, mother's milk leads to everything"






Dr Ray Stantz: You know, it just occurred to me that we really haven't had a successful test of this equipment.



Dr. Egon Spengler: I blame myself.



Dr. Peter Venkman: So do I.



Dr Ray Stantz: Well, no sense in worrying about it now.



Dr. Peter Venkman: Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.









I hardly remember anything of Ghostbusters at all :(. I really should rent it again.



To top it off today, I'm replaying the week of Stephanie from London while I work.



Comment by livingonli on 07/19/2008 14:53:19
Good morning everyone.



I have to go in at work at 2 PM today. I have two live games to AD, a Knicks Summer League game and a Liberty game so it will keep me busy. But tomorrow starts my vacation.

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 15:01:34
Speaking of "mothers milk" . . .



Mother's Milk of Politics Turns Sour



A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION

by Bill Moyers and Michael Winship



Who doesn't like to read Moyers?





Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 15:19:22
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I have to go in at work at 2 PM today. I have two live games to AD, a Knicks Summer League game and a Liberty game so it will keep me busy. But tomorrow starts my vacation.




Vacation? What's that? For me that usually coincides with unemployment.



Good morning liv.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 15:21:44
Good morning!



Paper read? Check.

Coffee consumed? Check check.

Glass of V-8 for my daily recommeneded dose of veggies? 3Xcheck



Loving my man? Priceless.





:cheese: if you are around, I am finally here!

Comment by livingonli on 07/19/2008 15:26:38
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I have to go in at work at 2 PM today. I have two live games to AD, a Knicks Summer League game and a Liberty game so it will keep me busy. But tomorrow starts my vacation.




Vacation? What's that? For me that usually coincides with unemployment.



Good morning liv.


It's too bad we aren't like the Europeans where they have a minimum paid vacation requirement which in many countries is by law. I already work an erratic schedule so I enjoy my vacation. And it's only been 3 months since my last vacation when I went down to DC for our blog meet-up. I just wish I had gotten to use the hotel pool more.

Comment by BobR on 07/19/2008 15:28:05
Quote by capt:

Speaking of "mothers milk" . . .



Mother's Milk of Politics Turns Sour



A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION

by Bill Moyers and Michael Winship



Who doesn't like to read Moyers?





Speaking of Mother's Milk...



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KC3mp%2BmIL._SL500_AA240_.jpg


It can also lead to "Rocking Out"....





http://www.keeganales.com/beer/images/label_mm_u.gif


It can also lead to divine beer drinking...



Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 15:54:13
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I have to go in at work at 2 PM today. I have two live games to AD, a Knicks Summer League game and a Liberty game so it will keep me busy. But tomorrow starts my vacation.




Vacation? What's that? For me that usually coincides with unemployment.



Good morning liv.


It's too bad we aren't like the Europeans where they have a minimum paid vacation requirement which in many countries is by law. I already work an erratic schedule so I enjoy my vacation. And it's only been 3 months since my last vacation when I went down to DC for our blog meet-up. I just wish I had gotten to use the hotel pool more.




I did a couple of service trips to Germany (just before the Berlin Wall fell, so it was interesting to see police in the open at the airport with semi-automatic rifles) and at the client I visited, if they worked more than 40 hours in a week, there was hell to pay. That and vending machines in the hallway with beer that was cheaper than Coke. I really had to practice some self-control to stay away from those machines.



What was even more interesting was that just about EVERYTHING was closed at 5PM or so and again just about EVERYTHING was closed on weekends.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 16:09:30
Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan



Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.



In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.



"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

[...]



Asked if he supported Obama's ideas more than those of John McCain, Republican presidential hopeful, Maliki said he did not want to recommend who people should vote for.



"Whoever is thinking about the shorter term is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems."[...]



"The Americans have found it difficult to agree on a concrete timetable for the exit because it seems like an admission of defeat to them. But it isn't," Maliki told Der Spiegel.

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 16:27:04
Quote by Raine:

Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan



Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.



In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.



"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

[...]



Asked if he supported Obama's ideas more than those of John McCain, Republican presidential hopeful, Maliki said he did not want to recommend who people should vote for.



"Whoever is thinking about the shorter term is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems."[...]



"The Americans have found it difficult to agree on a concrete timetable for the exit because it seems like an admission of defeat to them. But it isn't," Maliki told Der Spiegel.




Wow - gotta love it.



How on earth did Obama get it right while gramps, Busheney et al got is so wrong?



I posted on another board about a year ago that the GOP and the software they are using to wiretap would not be as much details but trends and as such the GOP and their ilk will change their message to whatever is popular just before the election - I saw it coming and they are just trying to lie their way into keeping the power they have stolen.



The question is, will the knuckle-dragging GOP rank (and I do mean rank) and file get so confused as to stay home. All their so called principles will be twisted all out of shape if the GOP massage the message enough to help their failed cause . .



The GOP is not on message - like McCain they have been all over the spectrum . To my personal delight and our advantage.





Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 16:32:20
Now playing ....



Have you ever seen the Rain /R.E.M

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 16:35:08
:gobama:





I agree capt. They are so far off message... wait... They have no clue!



You ARE aware however that McCain himself said we should listen to al-Maliki... I say OKfinebyme!





:D



Now playing...

Whenever I call you friend/Loggins and Nicks...



:bad: Don't knock it...



Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 16:36:45
Now...



Malibu/ Hole (Acustic Version) :spliff:

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 16:40:46
Love Kenny going all the way back to "Loggins and Messina" (sittin in?)



Nicks, not as much but she is a very popular performer.





Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 16:42:58
Quote by Raine:

Now playing ....



Have you ever seen the Rain /R.E.M




Do you mean the song on this?







Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 16:44:24


Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 16:49:03
I love Jed Report:







Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2008 16:54:24
Afternoon, folks. A wee little incident in the apheresis room today, but I'm OK. (had to come off the machine early.)



Anyway...off to the supermarket, then I think we're going to sit in the air conditioning and watch Alice in Wonderland (Disney) this afternoon...



Pass the ice cream!



http://www.explorenewengland.com/travel/explorene/capecod/blog/ice-cream-cone.jpg


Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 16:54:55
McCain: "Could I mention the presence of my friend, Congressman Steve Pearce, who I believe will be joining me in the United States Senate?

(Applause)

Steve, thank you."



(Politico via Kos)



I said it before by the time this is over even McCain will vote for Obama if McCain really wants what is best for the country.





Comment by livingonli on 07/19/2008 17:14:03
Time to head off to the salt mine one more time. At least the building's air conditioned for all the TV equipment. I may not chat much today, but I will definitely be back tomorrow.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2008 17:17:05
Quote by capt:

Quote by Raine:

Now playing ....



Have you ever seen the Rain /R.E.M




Do you mean the song on this?





IT was actaully a cover the the Creedance song... but that was great capt.



We are off the run some errands, but before I leave, capt... you scared me with the loggins and the Messina and the flaven...



(not really, I loved that too!)



Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 17:27:17
Now playing



The Sahara Desert Statue - The Goon Show

Comment by Random on 07/19/2008 17:33:54


Random™ did something very stupid todays.

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 17:44:42






Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 17:45:50
Quote by Random:



Random™ did something very stupid todays.




All hail Random™











What happened - not too bad I hope?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 17:49:50
Yes, Random, tell us.



Wha' happened?

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2008 17:52:40
Hey random...can't be as bad as TriSec almost folding up during a platelet donation...(first time evah, BTW. I must be getting old...)



Of course, I imagine it being hotter than the lids of Hades isn't helping much, either.





Comment by Random on 07/19/2008 17:56:49
Random was stupid enough to think he could walk around for three hours in 90 degree weather, humidity through the roof. This compound on the fact Random is not in the best shape << >> and Random hasn't had a real walk in over 2 years.

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 18:10:49
Quote by Random:

Random was stupid enough to think he could walk around for three hours in 90 degree weather, humidity through the roof. This compound on the fact Random is not in the best shape << >> and Random hasn't had a real walk in over 2 years.




Walking™ is good but in shorter bursts and cooler weather if possible.



I might have won the booby prize today - Someone here might know:



I just replaced my evap cooler pump - no big deal - not much $$$ but . . .



I replaced a 115v rated with a 120v rated - Not sure if it is bad. Seems to be working okay so far . . . Anybody know if I'm in trouble or am I okay?







Comment by Random on 07/19/2008 18:32:33
Random learned his lesson about canvassing for Obama...he no good at it.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/19/2008 18:35:58
Quote by capt:

Quote by Random:

Random was stupid enough to think he could walk around for three hours in 90 degree weather, humidity through the roof. This compound on the fact Random is not in the best shape << >> and Random hasn't had a real walk in over 2 years.




Walking™ is good but in shorter bursts and cooler weather if possible.



I might have won the booby prize today - Someone here might know:



I just replaced my evap cooler pump - no big deal - not much $$$ but . . .



I replaced a 115v rated with a 120v rated - Not sure if it is bad. Seems to be working okay so far . . . Anybody know if I'm in trouble or am I okay?









Was it an old pump? The standard voltage quite a few years ago was 115/230 where now it's 120/240. You're probably a little better off now.



That's my WAG.



Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 18:58:20
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by capt:

Quote by Random:

Random was stupid enough to think he could walk around for three hours in 90 degree weather, humidity through the roof. This compound on the fact Random is not in the best shape << >> and Random hasn't had a real walk in over 2 years.




Walking™ is good but in shorter bursts and cooler weather if possible.



I might have won the booby prize today - Someone here might know:



I just replaced my evap cooler pump - no big deal - not much $$$ but . . .



I replaced a 115v rated with a 120v rated - Not sure if it is bad. Seems to be working okay so far . . . Anybody know if I'm in trouble or am I okay?









Was it an old pump? The standard voltage quite a few years ago was 115/230 where now it's 120/240. You're probably a little better off now.



That's my WAG.





Home depot has both 115 and 120 - I really didn't take notice until I came down from the roof. It seems to be working fine - both are rated the same volume (7500). I put the 115v in myself ( a couple of months back) and need to check the stats - THAT one might have been the wrong one. . .







Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2008 19:24:18
Afternoon all. Oil changed. Early matinee of Dark Knight, check. Heath Ledger's Joker, one word: amazing! Total agent of chaos for chaos' sake. Mondo gives it 4.5 stars.

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2008 19:28:59






Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 19:36:03
Flava-Flavin?

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2008 19:47:02
Quote by capt:

Flava-Flavin?




:)

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 20:08:20
The Pew News IQ Quiz



Here's Your Score: You correctly answered 12 of the 12 possible questions along with approximately 3% of the public. You did better than 97% of the general public.



(I was only unsure of one)









Comment by Random on 07/19/2008 20:32:30
Everyone is falling in love with "The Dark Knight"

Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 20:55:56
Hillary Clinton's revealing purchase: A website called HRC2012



Sometimes a website name is just a website name.



Maybe the move by a company that's worked closely with the former first lady is just what it seems: yet another step by Hillary Rodham Clinton to prepare for another run for the Senate from New York in four years. Or another run for the White House. We won't know, of course, for some time.







But that comes with the news, as reported in The Ticket early the other morning, that Clinton has urgently requested her 2008 general election supporters to approve transfer of their unusable donations for this year's presidential race over to her 2012 Senate campaign.



(And then, potentially, into a new presidential campaign fund, as she did with $10 million of her surplus 2006 Senate campaign funds).





http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/07/18/hillaryclintonbrighteyes.jpg






Comment by capt on 07/19/2008 21:06:40
Quote by Random:

Everyone is falling in love with "The Dark Knight"




So far I haven't heard much of anything bad - seems like it will rock the summertime charts!





Comment by Random on 07/19/2008 21:11:42
Quote by capt:

Quote by Random:

Everyone is falling in love with "The Dark Knight"




So far I haven't heard much of anything bad - seems like it will rock the summertime charts!





I'm sure it's a good movie, one just has to wonder if all this praise ledger is getting is cause he's dead, and the general myth around his death is he killed himself because of the role.