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Author: Raine    Date: 05/09/2018 12:58:40

I had plans on writing about the awfulness of this administration deciding to violate the conditions of the JCPOA, also known as the Iran Deal. Then I saw this:

"There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe."
President Barak Obama

The actions this administration took yesterday are, in my opinion, the most dangerous to date. I won't lie, I am nervous and feeling very unsettled on this Wednesday. Usually, the words of former President Obama comfort me, even when I didn't agree with his policy or positions on any given topic. He's thoughtful and had my trust and respect.

The words he wrote above do not comfort me.


and

Raine
 
 

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Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 13:17:12
Morning

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 13:21:17
This is good news.

Yet, I still have a bad feeling about it.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 13:26:53
Quote by Raine:
This is good news.

Yet, I still have a bad feeling about it.



And he's going to meet them at the plane?

At 2 f*cking AM?

Are they healthy enough, are they strong enough?

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 13:50:05
Depressing blog killed blog?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 13:52:21
Quote by Raine:
Depressing blog killed blog?



Nah, I know I'm always in lurk mode :)

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 13:53:22




Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 14:07:21
Comment by TriSec on 05/09/2018 14:18:22
Just to note..isolationism in the 20s and 30s was a contributing factor for WWII.

I’m sure our former allies will move forward, along with the rest of the world.

Comment by BobR on 05/09/2018 14:24:47
Quote by TriSec:
Just to note..isolationism in the 20s and 30s was a contributing factor for WWII.

I’m sure our former allies will move forward, along with the rest of the world.

Iran said they would continue to honor the agreement with the remaining signatories, leaving the U.S. in the dust.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 14:27:22
Mornin' all..

That statement from the Russian foreign minister about this debacle was extremely telling. Their government is positioning to replace us as a leading world power in regards to international diplomacy.

Comment by TriSec on 05/09/2018 14:32:33
But in other news, did you see the Mormons are quitting Scouts BSA???

Given how they nearly destroyed the program with homophobia, anti-atheism, gender restrictions, and who knows what else, I’d be inclined to state a host of rude things. But channeling the sixth point of the Scout Law ( a Scout is kind ). I will kindly wish them to go have sex wit themselves, as well as the beast of burden they rode in on.

Comment by BobR on 05/09/2018 14:34:29
Thank-you Shep Smith for saying it clearly in a way that not even the real news channels are saying it.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 14:37:51
Quote by TriSec:
But in other news, did you see the Mormons are quitting Scouts BSA???

Given how they nearly destroyed the program with homophobia, anti-atheism, gender restrictions, and who knows what else, I’d be inclined to state a host of rude things. But channeling the sixth point of the Scout Law ( a Scout is kind ). I will kindly wish them to go have sex wit themselves, as well as the beast of burden they rode in on.

I was reading about the change allowing girls to join BSA and saw a lot of people asking what this meant for the Girls Scouts as an organization. It makes sense that there would be some shift in membership from one to the other, but do you think at some point there would have to be a merger of the two because of the attrition?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 14:44:18


Raine, this article is a year old.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 14:53:53
Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 14:54:20
Quote by Mondobubba:


Raine, this article is a year old.
it very relevant in light of what happened last night:






Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 14:55:27
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:


Raine, this article is a year old.
it very relevant in light of what happened last night:




More here.
The Daily Beast can confirm that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen received hundreds of thousands of dollars from a company connected to Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg.

The allegations were initially made Tuesday by Michael Avenatti, porn actress Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, and confirmed by a source familiar with the matter.

“How the fuck did Avenatti find out?” the source asked The Daily Beast.

According to a dossier published by Avenatti on Tuesday evening, “Vekselberg and his cousin Mr. Andrew Intrater routed eight payments to Mr. Cohen through a company named Columbus Nova LLC beginning in January 2017 and continuing until at least August 2017.”



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 14:56:42
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 14:57:27
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:


Raine, this article is a year old.
it very relevant in light of what happened last night:




More here.
The Daily Beast can confirm that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen received hundreds of thousands of dollars from a company connected to Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg.

The allegations were initially made Tuesday by Michael Avenatti, porn actress Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, and confirmed by a source familiar with the matter.

“How the fuck did Avenatti find out?” the source asked The Daily Beast.

According to a dossier published by Avenatti on Tuesday evening, “Vekselberg and his cousin Mr. Andrew Intrater routed eight payments to Mr. Cohen through a company named Columbus Nova LLC beginning in January 2017 and continuing until at least August 2017.”



Thanks for the clarification

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 15:06:11
Raine, it is so hard to keep up with everything going one with Cheetolini! I thought I had a pretty good handle on this, thanks for even more info,

Comment by TriSec on 05/09/2018 15:08:51
Quote by Scoopster:

I was reading about the change allowing girls to join BSA and saw a lot of people asking what this meant for the Girls Scouts as an organization. It makes sense that there would be some shift in membership from one to the other, but do you think at some point there would have to be a merger of the two because of the attrition?


It would seem almost inevitable. Remember, there are no Girl Scouts or Girl Guides anywhere else in the world. Globally, the Scout Association is co-ed. From the few GSA leaders I know, it seems their focus is solely on salesmanship and ‘career preperation’ almost exclusively selling those damn cookies.

For years now, I’ve had to turn away girls looking for the outdoor activities and leadership training they could only get through the BSA. A friend of mine now is leading a Girl Scout troop, but has been participating in the outdoor and overnight programs at our camp in Milton. (which has long been open to all). We’re giving those Scouts what they want, where the GSA is not.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 15:21:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, it is so hard to keep up with everything going one with Cheetolini! I thought I had a pretty good handle on this, thanks for even more info,

Understood!

I am too as of late. This is all insane and dangerous.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 15:23:27
Was just watching some of the Gina Haspel hearing.. Angus King was really going hard at her destroying evidence coinciding with a flurry of news reports about the torture legislation that was starting to move in the Senate. They had three years to get rid of the torture tapes, but it didn't happen until a few days after McCain's bill hit the news cycle.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 15:25:19
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Scoopster:

I was reading about the change allowing girls to join BSA and saw a lot of people asking what this meant for the Girls Scouts as an organization. It makes sense that there would be some shift in membership from one to the other, but do you think at some point there would have to be a merger of the two because of the attrition?


It would seem almost inevitable. Remember, there are no Girl Scouts or Girl Guides anywhere else in the world. Globally, the Scout Association is co-ed. From the few GSA leaders I know, it seems their focus is solely on salesmanship and ‘career preperation’ almost exclusively selling those damn cookies.

For years now, I’ve had to turn away girls looking for the outdoor activities and leadership training they could only get through the BSA. A friend of mine now is leading a Girl Scout troop, but has been participating in the outdoor and overnight programs at our camp in Milton. (which has long been open to all). We’re giving those Scouts what they want, where the GSA is not.



As a former Girl Scout, I'm kind of torn about the idea of merging the two. I know if boys had been a part of scouting when I was young I would not have wanted to join. No offense to boys but at that time they were the bullies in my life and Girl Scouts as one of the few places I could feel like I wouldn't get tormented.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 15:32:59
Well now this is interesting..




Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 15:41:50
Pompeo has no fucking clue about names, etiquette or honorifics in Asian countries, does he?




Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 15:50:48
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Scoopster:

I was reading about the change allowing girls to join BSA and saw a lot of people asking what this meant for the Girls Scouts as an organization. It makes sense that there would be some shift in membership from one to the other, but do you think at some point there would have to be a merger of the two because of the attrition?


It would seem almost inevitable. Remember, there are no Girl Scouts or Girl Guides anywhere else in the world. Globally, the Scout Association is co-ed. From the few GSA leaders I know, it seems their focus is solely on salesmanship and ‘career preperation’ almost exclusively selling those damn cookies.

For years now, I’ve had to turn away girls looking for the outdoor activities and leadership training they could only get through the BSA. A friend of mine now is leading a Girl Scout troop, but has been participating in the outdoor and overnight programs at our camp in Milton. (which has long been open to all). We’re giving those Scouts what they want, where the GSA is not.



As a former Girl Scout, I'm kind of torn about the idea of merging the two. I know if boys had been a part of scouting when I was young I would not have wanted to join. No offense to boys but at that time they were the bullies in my life and Girl Scouts as one of the few places I could feel like I wouldn't get tormented.
I have to say I agree with you one this Mala. Girl Scouts created a place where we could be valued as females in a safe place. it was empowering in a world with little empowerment for us.


Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 16:01:19
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Scoopster:

I was reading about the change allowing girls to join BSA and saw a lot of people asking what this meant for the Girls Scouts as an organization. It makes sense that there would be some shift in membership from one to the other, but do you think at some point there would have to be a merger of the two because of the attrition?


It would seem almost inevitable. Remember, there are no Girl Scouts or Girl Guides anywhere else in the world. Globally, the Scout Association is co-ed. From the few GSA leaders I know, it seems their focus is solely on salesmanship and ‘career preperation’ almost exclusively selling those damn cookies.

For years now, I’ve had to turn away girls looking for the outdoor activities and leadership training they could only get through the BSA. A friend of mine now is leading a Girl Scout troop, but has been participating in the outdoor and overnight programs at our camp in Milton. (which has long been open to all). We’re giving those Scouts what they want, where the GSA is not.



As a former Girl Scout, I'm kind of torn about the idea of merging the two. I know if boys had been a part of scouting when I was young I would not have wanted to join. No offense to boys but at that time they were the bullies in my life and Girl Scouts as one of the few places I could feel like I wouldn't get tormented.
I have to say I agree with you one this Mala. Girl Scouts created a place where we could be valued as females in a safe place. it was empowering in a world with little empowerment for us.


Right? I'm not saying there wasn't the occasional cliques and nastiness from other girls (Shelly Price can still go eat it a bag of dicks) but it was smooshed out by the leaders who made sure all girls felt included and that we learn to work together.

Also the GSA has been very inclusive of the trans community.

I'm just not sure how well it would go if they merged with the BSA. Like I said, no offense to the BSA, I've known some good kids that were part of it, I've also known some asshole parents and jerk kids who did too.


Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 16:08:12
BREAKING!!!





Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 16:11:12
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!






So where did all the money go?

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 16:17:38
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”




Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 16:18:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!






So where did all the money go?

That's the other shoe that needs to be found.

I am stunned.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 16:21:32




Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 16:24:58
Money came on from the companies to buy access to the PResident. The money went out to pay of people like Stormy or to buy stories and have them buried -- I bet money is flowing inside the company that owes the National Enquirer

and this is only one LLC.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 16:28:52
Quote by Raine:
Money came on from the companies to buy access to the PResident. The money went out to pay of people like Stormy or to buy stories and have them buried -- I bet money is flowing inside the company that owes the National Enquirer

and this is only one LLC.



I think some of that money fell into the pockets of the Orange tirefire and his spawn too.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 16:51:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”





I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 17:12:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”





I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.
Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.


Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 17:23:10
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”





I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.
Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.



It was from TPM. Good article.

If you’ve spent any time covering political scandals you can’t look even at these initial details and not think this is the kind of story that sends a bunch of people to prison.


Comment by TriSec on 05/09/2018 17:46:10
Quote by Scoopster:
Pompeo has no fucking clue about names, etiquette or honorifics in Asian countries, does he?




As a Protocol ‘Droid, this just makes all my circuitry overload.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 17:48:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”





I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.
Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.



It was from TPM. Good article.

If you’ve spent any time covering political scandals you can’t look even at these initial details and not think this is the kind of story that sends a bunch of people to prison.
This is just the tip of the Iceberg, I believe.


Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 18:03:04
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”


I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.

Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.

If that wasn't enough, just one look at his suits and you can tell he's gonna... wait for it... turn on a dime.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DctaeWrVwAAdebI.jpg:large


Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:03:15
I can't even not even today:





Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:07:22
Just a reminder, Lawyer Michael Cohen had three clients, Trump, Trump Org., and Sean Hannity.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:13:02
Also another reminder, post 9/11 -- Banking laws changed. It was the large amounts of money being moved around that brought Denny Hastert down --

Cohen is so done.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:17:33
I also don't believe that Cohen ever registered as a lobbyist. Lobbyists are paid to give access from their clients to politicians.

Wednesday musings, by Raine

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:18:08
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”


I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.

Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.

If that wasn't enough, just one look at his suits and you can tell he's gonna... wait for it... turn on a dime.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DctaeWrVwAAdebI.jpg:large
.

PERFECTION!




Comment by Scoopster on 05/09/2018 18:21:43





Comment by livingonli on 05/09/2018 18:36:53
If Trump isn't brought down soon, will we even make it to the midterms? Who heard Malcolm Nance on Momma today?

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:40:40
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:41:08
Quote by livingonli:
If Trump isn't brought down soon, will we even make it to the midterms? Who heard Malcolm Nance on Momma today?

I did. I hope they put that interview on youtube.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/09/2018 18:43:41
Quote by Raine:
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

Comment by livingonli on 05/09/2018 18:46:07
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

He has been quiet. I still remember when Mueller went to talk to him and that was a while ago. I think we have the most corrupt administration ever beating out Warren G. Harding and others from the Guilded Age.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 18:48:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
BREAKING!!!



this is big and they are so F*CKED.

Novartis was contacted last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office regarding the Essential Consultants pact, it said.

“Novartis cooperated fully with the Special Counsel’s office and provided all the information requested. Novartis considers this matter closed.”


I can't remember who said it yesterday evening or earlier this morning, but the statement was something about to connoisseur of political corruption know that a lot of people are looking at jail time for this.

Cohen is gonna HAVE to flip.

If that wasn't enough, just one look at his suits and you can tell he's gonna... wait for it... turn on a dime.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DctaeWrVwAAdebI.jpg:large
.

PERFECTION!




I actually like the jacket.


Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 18:48:33
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

He has been quiet. I still remember when Mueller went to talk to him and that was a while ago. I think we have the most corrupt administration ever beating out Warren G. Harding and others from the Guilded Age.
I missed that!

Ryan talked to Mueller? For real?


Comment by livingonli on 05/09/2018 18:51:50
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

He has been quiet. I still remember when Mueller went to talk to him and that was a while ago. I think we have the most corrupt administration ever beating out Warren G. Harding and others from the Guilded Age.
I missed that!

Ryan talked to Mueller? For real?

It was actually a few months ago. It seemed like Mueller may have been complaining about certain members interfering with the investigation like Nunes. It may not have been about the case per se, but if what Nance says is correct, it does seem like the whole GOP is in bed with the Russians and not just Trump.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 19:14:15
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

He has been quiet. I still remember when Mueller went to talk to him and that was a while ago. I think we have the most corrupt administration ever beating out Warren G. Harding and others from the Guilded Age.
I missed that!

Ryan talked to Mueller? For real?

It was actually a few months ago. It seemed like Mueller may have been complaining about certain members interfering with the investigation like Nunes. It may not have been about the case per se, but if what Nance says is correct, it does seem like the whole GOP is in bed with the Russians and not just Trump.
Liv. I spent 20 minutes looking for a link, can you help me find it? So far I can't.

I know if you saw or read it, it is out there, I can't find it, can you help me (us) out?

Comment by livingonli on 05/09/2018 19:26:15
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Where did the money go?' Michael Avenatti asked.

Wednesday Musings, by Raine:

Has Paul Ryan made any public appearances whatsoever today? Has he faced the press at all?



I don't know that I've seen him in days.

He has been quiet. I still remember when Mueller went to talk to him and that was a while ago. I think we have the most corrupt administration ever beating out Warren G. Harding and others from the Guilded Age.
I missed that!

Ryan talked to Mueller? For real?

It was actually a few months ago. It seemed like Mueller may have been complaining about certain members interfering with the investigation like Nunes. It may not have been about the case per se, but if what Nance says is correct, it does seem like the whole GOP is in bed with the Russians and not just Trump.
Liv. I spent 20 minutes looking for a link, can you help me find it? So far I can't.

I know if you saw or read it, it is out there, I can't find it, can you help me (us) out?

I saw it on MSNBC. It might have been Chris Hayes show. I probably would have to search for it to find it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/09/2018 20:59:07
Not sure if you all have visted giuliani2024.com yet or not.

Comment by livingonli on 05/09/2018 22:20:17
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Not sure if you all have visted giuliani2024.com yet or not.

Saw it on John Oliver Sunday night.

Comment by Raine on 05/09/2018 23:54:52