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When the War comes home.
Author: Raine
Date: 01/14/2008 13:27:45
We have been told that we must fight them there so we won't have to fight them here. We have been told that Al Quaeda must be prevented from entering America. We have been told to fear the enemy. Support the Troops™, love America(LLC).
But what happens when our troops can't stop fighting the war when they come home? What happens then?
The war echos, and still goes on, it seems.
Our soldiers are coming home and still fighting this war. The receive only minimum treatment for rentry to being back home...
Many of our combat vets are not making the adjustment. And so I ask, is this what it means to fight them over there so we do not have to fight them here?
I am concerned at this article, and the other studies I have been reading over the past year. As our troops come home, we are finding a significant number are homeless, suffer from PTSD, turning to alcohol and drugs and general suffering from a decent way of life. Is this just another side effect of war? Whose responsibility is this?
What must our Vietnam Vet's be thinking when they see the same thing happening again to another generation of people who are not just giving thier lives, but their souls to our country? Is it good enough to accept that they are just more collateral damage in this war?
It may not be happy or hopeful of me to say this, but I only see this problem growing, especially when the pentagon denies the stats, ignores the health issue. Instead, the crimes themselves fall on local and state juristictions, with a good portion of the health issues still going ignored.
The war HAS come over here. That is the sad reality. It isn't the enemy the pResident and the warhawks wanted it be. The war is home, and no one seemed to plan for it.
But what happens when our troops can't stop fighting the war when they come home? What happens then?
The war echos, and still goes on, it seems.
The New York Times found 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in this country, or were charged with one, after their return from war. In many of those cases, combat trauma and the stress of deployment — along with alcohol abuse, family discord and other attendant problems — appear to have set the stage for a tragedy that was part destruction, part self-destruction.
Three-quarters of these veterans were still in the military at the time of the killing. More than half the killings involved guns, and the rest were stabbings, beatings, strangulations and bathtub drownings. Twenty-five offenders faced murder, manslaughter or homicide charges for fatal car crashes resulting from drunken, reckless or suicidal driving.
About a third of the victims were spouses, girlfriends, children or other relatives, among them 2-year-old Krisiauna Calaira Lewis, whose 20-year-old father slammed her against a wall when he was recuperating in Texas from a bombing near Falluja that blew off his foot and shook up his brain.
A quarter of the victims were fellow service members, including Specialist Richard Davis of the Army, who was stabbed repeatedly and then set ablaze, his body hidden in the woods by fellow soldiers a day after they all returned from Iraq.
And the rest were acquaintances or strangers, among them Noah P. Gamez, 21, who was breaking into a car at a Tucson motel when an Iraq combat veteran, also 21, caught him, shot him dead and then killed himself outside San Diego with one of several guns found in his car.
Our soldiers are coming home and still fighting this war. The receive only minimum treatment for rentry to being back home...
Many of our combat vets are not making the adjustment. And so I ask, is this what it means to fight them over there so we do not have to fight them here?
I am concerned at this article, and the other studies I have been reading over the past year. As our troops come home, we are finding a significant number are homeless, suffer from PTSD, turning to alcohol and drugs and general suffering from a decent way of life. Is this just another side effect of war? Whose responsibility is this?
What must our Vietnam Vet's be thinking when they see the same thing happening again to another generation of people who are not just giving thier lives, but their souls to our country? Is it good enough to accept that they are just more collateral damage in this war?
It may not be happy or hopeful of me to say this, but I only see this problem growing, especially when the pentagon denies the stats, ignores the health issue. Instead, the crimes themselves fall on local and state juristictions, with a good portion of the health issues still going ignored.
The war HAS come over here. That is the sad reality. It isn't the enemy the pResident and the warhawks wanted it be. The war is home, and no one seemed to plan for it.
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 13:59:08
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 13:59:08
I'll entertain the *masses* whilst you whittle away.............
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:01:09
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:01:09
ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
Comment by 
BobR on 01/14/2008 14:07:02
Hey - the commercials show you can climb mountains and blow through snowbanks with aplomb. A little snow on the road is nothing, right?.... right?....
BobR on 01/14/2008 14:07:02
Quote by TriSec: ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
Hey - the commercials show you can climb mountains and blow through snowbanks with aplomb. A little snow on the road is nothing, right?.... right?....
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:07:36
As a student of history, I can think of more inventive punishments - such as force feeding. (Start with their toes.)
"Penis Compensator" sounds like the next release from Detroit.
Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:07:36
Quote by TriSec: ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
As a student of history, I can think of more inventive punishments - such as force feeding. (Start with their toes.)
"Penis Compensator" sounds like the next release from Detroit.
Comment by BobR on 01/14/2008 14:08:04
BobR on 01/14/2008 14:08:04
Quote by velveeta jones: I'll entertain the *masses* whilst you whittle away.............
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:09:21
Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:09:21
Here is a good blog entry that Kitties Against Bush put up at UNN: The Deafening Silence from the Closet.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:10:03
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:10:03
Bloggie is updated.
I must return to getting my computer back up and running proberly... she is hobbling along at basic VERY basic funtionality.
I must return to getting my computer back up and running proberly... she is hobbling along at basic VERY basic funtionality.
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:13:50
Well, gee...the commercials don't show them tailgating in a whiteout and passing cars on MAIN STREET over the double yellow now, do they?
<-- still steamed
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:13:50
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec: ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
Hey - the commercials show you can climb mountains and blow through snowbanks with aplomb. A little snow on the road is nothing, right?.... right?....
Well, gee...the commercials don't show them tailgating in a whiteout and passing cars on MAIN STREET over the double yellow now, do they?
<-- still steamed
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:14:22
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:14:22
Oh, and of course the ASSHOLE didn't bother to clear off his truck enough so I could see the plate, either.
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:23:02
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:23:02
Hey Will...just re-registered over at UNN. You'll see me around today! 
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 14:26:05
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 14:26:05
Great blog Raine, I want to add that (need to find article) the troops are, in some cases, being given psycho-tropic drugs that keeps them from feeling emotions! They can hear the screams of a women being raped and feel NOTHING.
The thinking is that under torture and hearing their comrade getting tortured -they won't talk.
But what happens when they come home?
The thinking is that under torture and hearing their comrade getting tortured -they won't talk.
But what happens when they come home?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:30:23
Everytime I see one of those things, I think of the dinosaurs - they move like dinosaurs and are running off of prehistoric animal and plant life.
Here is some disturbing news on global warming, courtesy of the Washington Post:
Escalating Ice Loss Found in Antarctica
Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 14:30:23
Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec: ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
Anyone who drives a "penis compensator" in the snow like a FUCKING IDIOT deserves to land upside down in a ditch in flames and die and GO TO HELL!!!
Hey - the commercials show you can climb mountains and blow through snowbanks with aplomb. A little snow on the road is nothing, right?.... right?....
Well, gee...the commercials don't show them tailgating in a whiteout and passing cars on MAIN STREET over the double yellow now, do they?
Everytime I see one of those things, I think of the dinosaurs - they move like dinosaurs and are running off of prehistoric animal and plant life.
Here is some disturbing news on global warming, courtesy of the Washington Post:
Escalating Ice Loss Found in Antarctica
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 14:31:39
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 14:31:39
Well, the article I was trying to find is from the Pacific Free Press and it will not load on my computer or my wifes computer! Spook cleansing in process? Anyway it was called: Warrior on Drugs. Posted just two days ago.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:33:08
Sounds like some of the assholes who drive on Long Island who are the same way. I also love how they take up two spaces because they don't know how to park (then there's the ultimate penis compensator the Hummer which has to take two parking spaces). Maybe drivers should get a separate license to operate one and they should not to be an asshole on the road.
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:33:08
Quote by TriSec: Oh, and of course the ASSHOLE didn't bother to clear off his truck enough so I could see the plate, either.
Sounds like some of the assholes who drive on Long Island who are the same way. I also love how they take up two spaces because they don't know how to park (then there's the ultimate penis compensator the Hummer which has to take two parking spaces). Maybe drivers should get a separate license to operate one and they should not to be an asshole on the road.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:33:45
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:33:45
Oh, BTW, Good morning everyone.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:35:24
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:35:24
Don't forget, Bill Kristol was hired by the "Liberal" New York Times.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:42:20
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:42:20
Here are the nuggets of Bill Kristol's wisdom;
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 14:45:07
:foil:
I despise when that happens.
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:45:07
Quote by velveeta jones: Well, the article I was trying to find is from the Pacific Free Press and it will not load on my computer or my wifes computer! Spook cleansing in process? Anyway it was called: Warrior on Drugs. Posted just two days ago.
:foil:
I despise when that happens.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:45:29
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:45:29
There have also been many who viewed his rush to execute Ricky Ray Rector to prove his pro-death penalty views and his denouncemnt of Sister Souljah in 1992 as acts of racism.
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:48:26
TriSec on 01/14/2008 14:48:26
Something Dr. Maddow said about our returning vets some months ago has stuck with me all this time...
"The war won't be over until the last tortured vet dies in his sleep 75 years from now..."
"The war won't be over until the last tortured vet dies in his sleep 75 years from now..."
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 14:49:58
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:49:58
Heya, I found the article, but it is taking a billion years to load...
I found the article, but it is taking a billion years to load...
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 14:52:36
"Only the dead have seen the End of War" ---Plato.
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:52:36
Quote by TriSec: Something Dr. Maddow said about our returning vets some months ago has stuck with me all this time...
"The war won't be over until the last tortured vet dies in his sleep 75 years from now..."
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:53:13
livingonli on 01/14/2008 14:53:13
Maybe the Republicans want Hillary both because they feel she's the one they can beat and if she wins she will end up supporting their agenda anyway.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 14:54:26
Found it! Loaded it! Thanks for this.
And, as a side note, I am not real happy about what is going on with this race thing and the clinton camp. I just don't like it ALL around.
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:54:26
Quote by Raine: Heya,
Found it! Loaded it! Thanks for this.
And, as a side note, I am not real happy about what is going on with this race thing and the clinton camp. I just don't like it ALL around.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 14:58:36
Raine on 01/14/2008 14:58:36
I have to agree with :clown:.
Since when Can't white people talk about MLK? Am I missing something here? Seriously, I think I am.
Since when Can't white people talk about MLK? Am I missing something here? Seriously, I think I am.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 15:04:21
Raine on 01/14/2008 15:04:21
OH!!!
In case y'all missed it!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
The giants beat the Cowboys!!!!
In case y'all missed it!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
The giants beat the Cowboys!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 15:05:42
Now I wish I was home so I could have seen it instead of just listening to it on the radio.
livingonli on 01/14/2008 15:05:42
Quote by Raine: OH!!!
In case y'all missed it!!!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
The giants beat the Cowboys!!!!
Now I wish I was home so I could have seen it instead of just listening to it on the radio.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 15:10:01
Raine on 01/14/2008 15:10:01
Thank you 
!!! I think tis was rather misinterpreted.
!!! I think tis was rather misinterpreted.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/14/2008 15:12:26
wickedpam on 01/14/2008 15:12:26
Morning! :hug:
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 15:13:24
TriSec on 01/14/2008 15:13:24
Oh yes...TriSec was rather happy with the out of town scoreboard yesterday, too! :party:
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 15:17:18
The logical side of me sees it being a Pat packer bowl, but, you know... EVERYONE though that the colts and Dallas would be taking all yesterday... I would LOVE a Pat Giants Bowl!
Raine on 01/14/2008 15:17:18
Quote by TriSec: Oh yes...TriSec was rather happy with the out of town scoreboard yesterday, too! :party:
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 15:17:30
Will in Chicago on 01/14/2008 15:17:30
Paris Hilton seems to be the best argument for keeping the inheritance tax - even though her grandfather did cut her and the other grandkids out of the will by leaving most of it to charity.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 15:21:21
Raine on 01/14/2008 15:21:21
The Globe Story...
First Lady Laura's Bloody Fight With Boozing Bush
GEORGE BUSH and wife Laura are headed for divorce - again - after she left claw marks on his face during a furious fight over his boozing, White House sources reveal. The president was left with a bloody three-inch gash along with a smaller cut. Our world exclusive reveals the shocking details of their explosive showdown - and what their future holds.
GEORGE BUSH and wife Laura are headed for divorce - again - after she left claw marks on his face during a furious fight over his boozing, White House sources reveal. The president was left with a bloody three-inch gash along with a smaller cut. Our world exclusive reveals the shocking details of their explosive showdown - and what their future holds.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 15:23:57
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 15:23:57
Raine, glad you found the article. My wife did end up finding it on Alternet.
Anywho. I just got off the phone with my non-insurance insurance company BCBS. Wish I had recoreded it. Got them to admit that they are just trying to STEAL money from me. Seriously!!! The BCBS rep, was very quiet when I asked her to give me an honest answer and she finally said............."yes".
Oh...........why did I not record this!!
Anywho. I just got off the phone with my non-insurance insurance company BCBS. Wish I had recoreded it. Got them to admit that they are just trying to STEAL money from me. Seriously!!! The BCBS rep, was very quiet when I asked her to give me an honest answer and she finally said............."yes".
Oh...........why did I not record this!!
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 15:25:07
TriSec on 01/14/2008 15:25:07
BCBSNC? Anything I can do to help?
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 15:27:49
Thanks Tri, I'll let you know. I just called my friend who is a broker. Waiting for her to call me back.
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 15:27:49
Quote by TriSec: BCBSNC? Anything I can do to help?
Thanks Tri, I'll let you know. I just called my friend who is a broker. Waiting for her to call me back.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 15:50:27
We could call the NSA... 
Raine on 01/14/2008 15:50:27
Quote by velveeta jones: Raine, glad you found the article. My wife did end up finding it on Alternet.
Anywho. I just got off the phone with my non-insurance insurance company BCBS. Wish I had recoreded it. Got them to admit that they are just trying to STEAL money from me. Seriously!!! The BCBS rep, was very quiet when I asked her to give me an honest answer and she finally said............."yes".
Oh...........why did I not record this!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:03:04
livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:03:04
Can we get the weather people to stop the hype? Here in New York a few days ago we would get a foot of snow last night. But then they downgraded it to 5-8 inches then 4-7 inches. While it changed from rain to sleet on my way home. I woke up this morning to find the only snow we got was a coating on the ground while paved surfaces were clear.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:07:11
livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:07:11
One of the local stations here is running a Thermo-Span infomercial and the EPG data says "The History of Hot Tubs".
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:07:47
livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:07:47
Where's 
this morning?
this morning?
Comment by BobR on 01/14/2008 16:11:15
It's STORM WATCH 2008!!!
BobR on 01/14/2008 16:11:15
Quote by livingonli: Can we get the weather people to stop the hype? Here in New York a few days ago we would get a foot of snow last night. But then they downgraded it to 5-8 inches then 4-7 inches. While it changed from rain to sleet on my way home. I woke up this morning to find the only snow we got was a coating on the ground while paved surfaces were clear.
It's STORM WATCH 2008!!!
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 16:14:43
TriSec on 01/14/2008 16:14:43
Heh. We have the Blizzard of '78 to thank for that.
Forecasters were calling for a minor storm, and instead we got 48 hours of blizzard conditions...hundreds were trapped on Route 128, the city was shut down for a week, and people did indeed run out of bread and milk.
So, ever since, we've been spoon-fed "Bread, Milk, PANIC!!!" and of course no one could find a loaf of bread or a quart of milk in the six-state area this weekend.
Forecasters were calling for a minor storm, and instead we got 48 hours of blizzard conditions...hundreds were trapped on Route 128, the city was shut down for a week, and people did indeed run out of bread and milk.
So, ever since, we've been spoon-fed "Bread, Milk, PANIC!!!" and of course no one could find a loaf of bread or a quart of milk in the six-state area this weekend.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:39:42
livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:39:42
Did everyone else fall into the salt mine?
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:49:17
livingonli on 01/14/2008 16:49:17
The search for the gayest bumper music. 
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 17:07:58
livingonli on 01/14/2008 17:07:58
And now it's almost 40 degrees.
Comment by 
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:12:07
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:12:07
Anyone still here?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/14/2008 17:15:09
wickedpam on 01/14/2008 17:15:09
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 17:16:43
I remember that blizzard... we were in the middle of moving upstate!
Raine on 01/14/2008 17:16:43
Quote by TriSec: Heh. We have the Blizzard of '78 to thank for that.
Forecasters were calling for a minor storm, and instead we got 48 hours of blizzard conditions...hundreds were trapped on Route 128, the city was shut down for a week, and people did indeed run out of bread and milk.
So, ever since, we've been spoon-fed "Bread, Milk, PANIC!!!" and of course no one could find a loaf of bread or a quart of milk in the six-state area this weekend.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:17:59
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:17:59
Is anyone on the blog really good at resume writing?
I've got a fantastic networking opportunity that I need to take advantage of in the next few days but I hate my old chronological resume.
I've got a fantastic networking opportunity that I need to take advantage of in the next few days but I hate my old chronological resume.
Comment by TriSec on 01/14/2008 17:26:36
TriSec on 01/14/2008 17:26:36
Shelagh, I used to have 2 resumes, an old-school "chronological" and a newfangled "skills-based" resume.
Turns out I hated the skills one and have stuck with the old "TriSec's Timeline" for a good long while now. It's still out at Monster, I even get an ocassional nibble, but nothing that I *really* want...
Turns out I hated the skills one and have stuck with the old "TriSec's Timeline" for a good long while now. It's still out at Monster, I even get an ocassional nibble, but nothing that I *really* want...
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:38:30
I've been told at the unemployment office, particularly because of my age and gender, that functional is the way I need to go now instead of chron. This networking guy is a *really* big deal - probably the highest up person I've ever connected with. He gave me about a half-hour on the phone this morning.
My skill set is mostly admin and I really need something that'll get me out of that rut. That's also why I want to do the functional instead.
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 17:38:30
Quote by TriSec: Shelagh, I used to have 2 resumes, an old-school "chronological" and a newfangled "skills-based" resume.
Turns out I hated the skills one and have stuck with the old "TriSec's Timeline" for a good long while now. It's still out at Monster, I even get an ocassional nibble, but nothing that I *really* want...
I've been told at the unemployment office, particularly because of my age and gender, that functional is the way I need to go now instead of chron. This networking guy is a *really* big deal - probably the highest up person I've ever connected with. He gave me about a half-hour on the phone this morning.
My skill set is mostly admin and I really need something that'll get me out of that rut. That's also why I want to do the functional instead.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 17:50:02
Raine on 01/14/2008 17:50:02
I am here for the moment... Going out for a bit this afternoon to buy a replacement remote.
How is the packing going Shelagh?
And how is that there working for you mala?
How is the packing going Shelagh?
And how is that there
working for you mala?
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 17:53:06
Raine on 01/14/2008 17:53:06
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 17:54:15
Raine on 01/14/2008 17:54:15
Comment by wickedpam on 01/14/2008 17:54:53
It would be better is I wasn't trying to get some actual work done while everyone was in a budget meeting
wickedpam on 01/14/2008 17:54:53
Quote by Raine: I am here for the moment... Going out for a bit this afternoon to buy a replacement remote.
How is the packing going Shelagh?
And how is that there
It would be better is I wasn't trying to get some actual work done while everyone was in a budget meeting
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 17:58:48
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 17:58:48
Yipes! Resumes? Try doing a resume where you have major "gaps" due to being a homeless alcoholic!! Not a fun one to explain to the HR rep.
:huh:
:huh:
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 18:02:45
That might be where the "skills-based" resume comes handy.
livingonli on 01/14/2008 18:02:45
Quote by velveeta jones: Yipes! Resumes? Try doing a resume where you have major "gaps" due to being a homeless alcoholic!! Not a fun one to explain to the HR rep.
:huh:
That might be where the "skills-based" resume comes handy.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 18:03:32
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 18:03:32
I appreciate the links, but the problem is I look at my resume and get weirded out. I can't quite figure out how to make it look more like the ones I see.
One time I used a sort of service for restyling my res and the woman wanted me to be *so* specific about what I wanted. I could only tell her I wanted something more creative and less support-based. She couldn't help me at all -- she just gave me photocopies of examples and I just couldn't figure out how to work what I have into what the examples were.
One time I used a sort of service for restyling my res and the woman wanted me to be *so* specific about what I wanted. I could only tell her I wanted something more creative and less support-based. She couldn't help me at all -- she just gave me photocopies of examples and I just couldn't figure out how to work what I have into what the examples were.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 18:21:48
Raine on 01/14/2008 18:21:48
OK, I will see y'all later!
Off to bombastic!
Off to bombastic!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 18:26:32
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 18:26:32
Quote by livingonli:Quote by velveeta jones: Yipes! Resumes? Try doing a resume where you have major "gaps" due to being a homeless alcoholic!! Not a fun one to explain to the HR rep.
:huh:
That might be where the "skills-based" resume comes handy.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 18:43:55
livingonli on 01/14/2008 18:43:55
I better go out and get some errands done. Thank goodness it didn't snow that much.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 20:10:54
Raine on 01/14/2008 20:10:54
OOH... listeninig to Randi, this may be an interesting turn that I did not take into consideration about Michigan.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 20:13:27
Raine on 01/14/2008 20:13:27
GOOD NEWS BTW!!!
The comcast guy was wonderful... he gave us a new remote for free! No questions asked. Actually he apologized becuase it was a reburb! I am happy happy joy joy now!
The comcast guy was wonderful... he gave us a new remote for free! No questions asked. Actually he apologized becuase it was a reburb! I am happy happy joy joy now!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:33:20
From the dust jacket of David Cay Johnston's Free Lunch, "How Paris Hilton's grandfather schemed to retake the family fortune from a charity for poor children.
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:33:20
Quote by will in chicago: Paris Hilton seems to be the best argument for keeping the inheritance tax - even though her grandfather did cut her and the other grandkids out of the will by leaving most of it to charity.
From the dust jacket of David Cay Johnston's Free Lunch, "How Paris Hilton's grandfather schemed to retake the family fortune from a charity for poor children.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:34:31
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:34:31
Oops double post there. Raine, Bobber or Tri, fixxity por favor.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:42:38
Now you can watch the new episode on "The Wire" :D
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:42:38
Quote by Raine: GOOD NEWS BTW!!!
The comcast guy was wonderful... he gave us a new remote for free! No questions asked.
Actually he apologized becuase it was a reburb! I am happy happy joy joy now!
Now you can watch the new episode on "The Wire" :D
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:43:59
Thankee, Raine, Bobber or Tri you guys rock. :metal:
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 20:43:59
Quote by Mondobubba: Oops double post there. Raine, Bobber or Tri, fixxity por favor.
Thankee, Raine, Bobber or Tri you guys rock. :metal:
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 20:55:20
Raine on 01/14/2008 20:55:20
*cough* Checked my messages!!!
I say... (as I put my pshychic hat on) JOHN McCain???? :P
I say... (as I put my pshychic hat on) JOHN McCain???? :P
Comment by starling310 on 01/14/2008 20:56:39
starling310 on 01/14/2008 20:56:39
:thud:
No connectivity for the first 7 hours of the day!
No connectivity for the first 7 hours of the day!
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 20:59:36
Raine on 01/14/2008 20:59:36
Jaw drops to floor... I did not know that Dennis was still on the ballot in Michigan.
I have been suggesting to all people that they vote UNCOMMITTED... (and also have been very dismayed at the KOS suggestion that dems vote for Romney)
With Dennis on the ballot, people MUST MUST vote for him! Shame on Kos for not being more forthcoming about this information!!!
I have been suggesting to all people that they vote UNCOMMITTED... (and also have been very dismayed at the KOS suggestion that dems vote for Romney)
With Dennis on the ballot, people MUST MUST vote for him! Shame on Kos for not being more forthcoming about this information!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 21:01:10
-ding- Correct woman.
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 21:01:10
Quote by Raine: *cough* Checked my messages!!!
I say... (as I put my pshychic hat on) JOHN McCain???? :P
-ding- Correct woman.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 21:01:16
BREATHE!
Raine on 01/14/2008 21:01:16
Quote by starling310:
No connectivity for the first 7 hours of the day!
Comment by starling310 on 01/14/2008 21:17:48
starling310 on 01/14/2008 21:17:48
Anybody watch the Bill Moyers journal from Friday? He had Shelby Steele on. . . I don't know Shelby Steele or his politics, save that I know he is a Conservative. He made some absolutely excellent points about race in this country.
Comment by starling310 on 01/14/2008 21:20:43
starling310 on 01/14/2008 21:20:43
Listening to *static* Stephanie Miller from this morning.
Hello God. It's me; Starling.
Please let Hillary and Barack continue to eat each other alive so America will get annoyed and vote for John Edwards.
Thank you God.
Hello God. It's me; Starling.
Please let Hillary and Barack continue to eat each other alive so America will get annoyed and vote for John Edwards.
Thank you God.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 21:29:10
I must say I was thinking this as well. I was really rather disappointed with the show today.
IT is even more interesting listening to Randi right now.. She is basiclaly pointing out the 2 VERY major flaws from hill-Obam, and how the drugs and the race flames are being really flamed.
All Edwards really has to do is stay out of the fray, at this point.
Raine on 01/14/2008 21:29:10
Quote by starling310: Listening to *static* Stephanie Miller from this morning.
Hello God. It's me; Starling.
Please let Hillary and Barack continue to eat each other alive so America will get annoyed and vote for John Edwards.
Thank you God.
IT is even more interesting listening to Randi right now.. She is basiclaly pointing out the 2 VERY major flaws from hill-Obam, and how the drugs and the race flames are being really flamed.
All Edwards really has to do is stay out of the fray, at this point.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 21:51:26
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 21:51:26
How close do you have to be to a wifi hotspot for access?
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:01:13
I like that Moxie. I think at this point I would love Kucinich to win Michigan just to piss off Tweety and the other pundits and stop anoiting a leader in the horserace.
livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:01:13
Quote by Raine:I must say I was thinking this as well. I was really rather disappointed with the show today.Quote by starling310: Listening to *static* Stephanie Miller from this morning.
Hello God. It's me; Starling.
Please let Hillary and Barack continue to eat each other alive so America will get annoyed and vote for John Edwards.
Thank you God.
IT is even more interesting listening to Randi right now.. She is basiclaly pointing out the 2 VERY major flaws from hill-Obam, and how the drugs and the race flames are being really flamed.
All Edwards really has to do is stay out of the fray, at this point.
I like that Moxie. I think at this point I would love Kucinich to win Michigan just to piss off Tweety and the other pundits and stop anoiting a leader in the horserace.
Comment by starling310 on 01/14/2008 22:02:52
starling310 on 01/14/2008 22:02:52
Why are people saying that the New Hampshire voters got manipulated?
Barring a change when they do the recount, it would seem that they voted for who they wanted. . . how can we say with certainty that they were manipulated? That's a tough case to make.
Barring a change when they do the recount, it would seem that they voted for who they wanted. . . how can we say with certainty that they were manipulated? That's a tough case to make.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:10:25
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:10:25
:rofl: Randi is making fun of Terrell Owens... :ROFL:
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:12:17
I still want to see a hand count compared to what the optical readers said.
As far as personal manipulation... I can see what you are saying.
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:12:17
Quote by starling310: Why are people saying that the New Hampshire voters got manipulated?
Barring a change when they do the recount, it would seem that they voted for who they wanted. . . how can we say with certainty that they were manipulated? That's a tough case to make.
I still want to see a hand count compared to what the optical readers said.
As far as personal manipulation... I can see what you are saying.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:17:30
livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:17:30
In the national GOP poll, Rudy has fallen to fourth behind McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
:banana:
But he is still ahead of the sleepy one . {Fred_Gump}
:banana:
But he is still ahead of the sleepy one . {Fred_Gump}
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:21:22
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:21:22
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:28:40
I think Rudy is totally done for...
You know, the interesting thing about his Florida strategy is that becuase Florida moved it's primary date, the GOP cut the delegates in HALF. So instead of him possibly getting the winner take all of 114 delegates, it's only 57 --- which theoretically at 114, would have put him in the lead, he wouldn't have a chance in hell even if he did win.
It fuzzy math that rudy has... :P
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:28:40
Quote by livingonli: In the national GOP poll, Rudy has fallen to fourth behind McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
:banana:
But he is still ahead of the sleepy one . {Fred_Gump}
I think Rudy is totally done for...
You know, the interesting thing about his Florida strategy is that becuase Florida moved it's primary date, the GOP cut the delegates in HALF. So instead of him possibly getting the winner take all of 114 delegates, it's only 57 --- which theoretically at 114, would have put him in the lead, he wouldn't have a chance in hell even if he did win.
It fuzzy math that rudy has... :P
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:31:14
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:31:14
yewww... that new voice on Pheonix isn't very dulcent.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 22:39:23
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 22:39:23
Anyone know about wifi?
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:39:43
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:39:43
PErsonally I am so sick and tired already of this Barack Clinton Fight. I am disgusted by them
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:42:59
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:42:59
I still totally disagree with Randi... I believe ONLY PARTY MEMBERS should vote in thier party;s primaries.
PERE-de-Dah... Anything else rigs the game even more. Voting should not be about strategy on the primary level.
PERE-de-Dah... Anything else rigs the game even more. Voting should not be about strategy on the primary level.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:43:55
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:43:55
HEya Shelagh.. what do you need to know about WiFi?
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:45:18
His knowledge of fuzzy math when discussing how his tax cuts helped balance the city budget. :P
OK, when Rudy loses Florida, how soon will he come down with an illness. According to the polls, even in New York which is the only state he's guaranteed a win he is now only three points ahead of McCain.
livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:45:18
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: In the national GOP poll, Rudy has fallen to fourth behind McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
:banana:
But he is still ahead of the sleepy one . {Fred_Gump}
I think Rudy is totally done for...
You know, the interesting thing about his Florida strategy is that becuase Florida moved it's primary date, the GOP cut the delegates in HALF. So instead of him possibly getting the winner take all of 114 delegates, it's only 57 --- which theoretically at 114, would have put him in the lead, he wouldn't have a chance in hell even if he did win.
It fuzzy math that rudy has... :P
His knowledge of fuzzy math when discussing how his tax cuts helped balance the city budget. :P
OK, when Rudy loses Florida, how soon will he come down with an illness. According to the polls, even in New York which is the only state he's guaranteed a win he is now only three points ahead of McCain.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 22:45:47
velveeta jones on 01/14/2008 22:45:47
Oh thank goodness Cate is okay (after being hit by a drunk driver). Another reason to push universal health care, where the driver can go to REHAB.
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 22:48:53
CAN I get an AHHHH-MEN?
Raine on 01/14/2008 22:48:53
Quote by velveeta jones: Oh thank goodness Cate is okay (after being hit by a drunk driver). Another reason to push universal health care, where the driver can go to REHAB.
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:51:57
Ahhhh-Meeennn!!!!
livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:51:57
Quote by Raine:CAN I get an AHHHH-MEN?Quote by velveeta jones: Oh thank goodness Cate is okay (after being hit by a drunk driver). Another reason to push universal health care, where the driver can go to REHAB.
Ahhhh-Meeennn!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:56:41
livingonli on 01/14/2008 22:56:41
I'm going to grab a catnap. Make sure I don't oversleep and miss Olbermann. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 22:57:51
Rudy is the only candidate, either Democratic or Republican who is done any media buy here. Odo (Romney, I seriously thing he is one of the Changlings from ST DS-9) was but he stopped. Since the DNC stripped Florida of all it's delegates all the Dems have avoided Florida like the plague.
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 22:57:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: In the national GOP poll, Rudy has fallen to fourth behind McCain, Huckabee, and Romney.
:banana:
But he is still ahead of the sleepy one . {Fred_Gump}
I think Rudy is totally done for...
You know, the interesting thing about his Florida strategy is that becuase Florida moved it's primary date, the GOP cut the delegates in HALF. So instead of him possibly getting the winner take all of 114 delegates, it's only 57 --- which theoretically at 114, would have put him in the lead, he wouldn't have a chance in hell even if he did win.
It fuzzy math that rudy has... :P
Rudy is the only candidate, either Democratic or Republican who is done any media buy here. Odo (Romney, I seriously thing he is one of the Changlings from ST DS-9) was but he stopped. Since the DNC stripped Florida of all it's delegates all the Dems have avoided Florida like the plague.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 23:02:22
How can I find out the range of local hotspots? I'm going to be about half a mile away from the closest one to where I'm moving. DSL/Phone won't start up until between 9:00 and Noon of the day after I get there. If I can catch the local wifi, I'll be happier.
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 23:02:22
Quote by Raine: HEya Shelagh.. what do you need to know about WiFi?
How can I find out the range of local hotspots? I'm going to be about half a mile away from the closest one to where I'm moving. DSL/Phone won't start up until between 9:00 and Noon of the day after I get there. If I can catch the local wifi, I'll be happier.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/14/2008 23:20:52
shelaghc on 01/14/2008 23:20:52
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 23:47:22
Raine on 01/14/2008 23:47:22
Should I bother watching the last 12 minutes of *ucker?
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 23:52:51
AHHH...
First ... and this is not my area of expertise... but you might be able to piggy back a local area network from your new home.
BUT... I suspect STRONGLY that many places will have the free wiFi. Around here in the Atl, I am seeing independant coffee shops and local watering holes that have the wifi.(pretty much anyplace that wants social gatherings, has WiFi these days... and it is free!! ) If you are actually *in Pittspburgh* (and I suspect you are, I think you will find a lot more places that have the WiFi than you think..
Raine on 01/14/2008 23:52:51
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: HEya Shelagh.. what do you need to know about WiFi?
How can I find out the range of local hotspots? I'm going to be about half a mile away from the closest one to where I'm moving. DSL/Phone won't start up until between 9:00 and Noon of the day after I get there. If I can catch the local wifi, I'll be happier.
First ... and this is not my area of expertise... but you might be able to piggy back a local area network from your new home.
BUT... I suspect STRONGLY that many places will have the free wiFi. Around here in the Atl, I am seeing independant coffee shops and local watering holes that have the wifi.(pretty much anyplace that wants social gatherings, has WiFi these days... and it is free!! ) If you are actually *in Pittspburgh* (and I suspect you are, I think you will find a lot more places that have the WiFi than you think..
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 23:56:45
ya gotta admit, the audicons are a hellova lot of fun... BTW, if anyone comes across one... I am sure we can get our Blogenious to add it!
Raine on 01/14/2008 23:56:45
Quote by shelaghc:
ya gotta admit, the audicons are a hellova lot of fun... BTW, if anyone comes across one... I am sure we can get our Blogenious to add it!
Comment by Raine on 01/14/2008 23:59:17
yeah... I'll get right on that liv... :rofl:
Raine on 01/14/2008 23:59:17
Quote by livingonli: I'm going to grab a catnap. Make sure I don't oversleep and miss Olbermann.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 23:59:46
No, you should be watching "The Wire"
Mondobubba on 01/14/2008 23:59:46
Quote by Raine: Should I bother watching the last 12 minutes of *ucker?
No, you should be watching "The Wire"
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:00:38
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:00:38
Is there a debate tonite? :yawn:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/15/2008 00:00:54
That's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm wondering if I can pick up the wifi of a local place from my home. Once I get to the new apartment with the cats, I'll be too tired to go out and about just to pick up a signal and I won't even have dialup to use that first night. Also, my laptop battery is toast so I can't really haul it around anywhere.
Then I have to hang around in the morning until the broadband folks show up to hook up my lines which might not happen until as late as noon or 1:00PM Eastern. If I'm stuck hanging around that long, I'd really like to be able to listen to Steph and just check my email.
shelaghc on 01/15/2008 00:00:54
Quote by Raine:AHHH...Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: HEya Shelagh.. what do you need to know about WiFi?
How can I find out the range of local hotspots? I'm going to be about half a mile away from the closest one to where I'm moving. DSL/Phone won't start up until between 9:00 and Noon of the day after I get there. If I can catch the local wifi, I'll be happier.
First ... and this is not my area of expertise... but you might be able to piggy back a local area network from your new home.
BUT... I suspect STRONGLY that many places will have the free wiFi. Around here in the Atl, I am seeing independant coffee shops and local watering holes that have the wifi.(pretty much anyplace that wants social gatherings, has WiFi these days... and it is free!! ) If you are actually *in Pittspburgh* (and I suspect you are, I think you will find a lot more places that have the WiFi than you think..
That's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm wondering if I can pick up the wifi of a local place from my home. Once I get to the new apartment with the cats, I'll be too tired to go out and about just to pick up a signal and I won't even have dialup to use that first night. Also, my laptop battery is toast so I can't really haul it around anywhere.
Then I have to hang around in the morning until the broadband folks show up to hook up my lines which might not happen until as late as noon or 1:00PM Eastern. If I'm stuck hanging around that long, I'd really like to be able to listen to Steph and just check my email.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:02:55
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:02:55
OMG... Cynthia Tucker from the AJC is on Hardball?
So now he thinks he can make it right by getting a black woman on his show???
Cynthia Tucker?
Hoo haw.
So now he thinks he can make it right by getting a black woman on his show???
Cynthia Tucker?
Hoo haw.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:05:40
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:05:40
ok, Matthews just said that if Romney doesn't win in michigan... he will be going to the back of the bus...
UHM... that really was not cool considering the fact that Mormonism has a little race issue.
Tucker is saying that Romney won't do well in goeorgia... and he wont. Huck is in the lead here.
UHM... that really was not cool considering the fact that Mormonism has a little race issue.
Tucker is saying that Romney won't do well in goeorgia... and he wont. Huck is in the lead here.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:07:24
OH. sorry. YEah that is gonna be a matter of how close you are to a spot. I think you are gonna have to be almost next dor to a wifi spot to get it.
(or like I said.. keep you rfingers crossed for an open network)
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:07:24
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine:AHHH...Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: HEya Shelagh.. what do you need to know about WiFi?
How can I find out the range of local hotspots? I'm going to be about half a mile away from the closest one to where I'm moving. DSL/Phone won't start up until between 9:00 and Noon of the day after I get there. If I can catch the local wifi, I'll be happier.
First ... and this is not my area of expertise... but you might be able to piggy back a local area network from your new home.
BUT... I suspect STRONGLY that many places will have the free wiFi. Around here in the Atl, I am seeing independant coffee shops and local watering holes that have the wifi.(pretty much anyplace that wants social gatherings, has WiFi these days... and it is free!! ) If you are actually *in Pittspburgh* (and I suspect you are, I think you will find a lot more places that have the WiFi than you think..
That's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm wondering if I can pick up the wifi of a local place from my home. Once I get to the new apartment with the cats, I'll be too tired to go out and about just to pick up a signal and I won't even have dialup to use that first night. Also, my laptop battery is toast so I can't really haul it around anywhere.
Then I have to hang around in the morning until the broadband folks show up to hook up my lines which might not happen until as late as noon or 1:00PM Eastern. If I'm stuck hanging around that long, I'd really like to be able to listen to Steph and just check my email.
(or like I said.. keep you rfingers crossed for an open network)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 00:12:19
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 00:12:19
ZOMG! Omar is living large in a tropical paradise with his boy-toy!
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:50:08
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:50:08
MONDO GAVE A SPOILER!!!!!
DO NOT READ HIS QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT READ HIS QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote by Mondobubba: ZOMG! Omar is living large in a tropical paradise with his boy-toy!
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:51:10
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:51:10
:bad: Mondo, you must give spoilers for le Wihre.... :P
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 00:52:16
Raine on 01/15/2008 00:52:16
I have the best neighbors... they brought over a copy of DiskWarrior wich may very well allow me to get my computer back up to 100%. :xfingers:
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 01:19:30
There is one in Vegas tomorrow.
livingonli on 01/15/2008 01:19:30
Quote by Raine: Is there a debate tonite? :yawn:
There is one in Vegas tomorrow.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:22:45
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:22:45
IF anyone is watching KO, a judge has ordered MSNBC to allow Dennis to participate in tommoroows debate.
The company is fighting it, according to KO.
BUT..........
Looks like Dennis is gonna be in th emix tomorrow. this should be VERY interesting.
The company is fighting it, according to KO.
BUT..........
Looks like Dennis is gonna be in th emix tomorrow. this should be VERY interesting.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:23:46
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:23:46
heya liv, I see you were able to wake up.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:25:04
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:25:04
You know how the party can heal the gender race gap?
Choose edwards.
Choose edwards.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:26:47
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:26:47
KO talking about michigan and Kos' request to have dems vote for romney.
F*CK THAT. Dems need to vote UNCOMMITTED, or for Dennis.
F*CK THAT. Dems need to vote UNCOMMITTED, or for Dennis.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:28:02
That was not a spoiler a spoiler would be; redacted redacted redacted and then Bunk said f&%k you, Jimmy!
:rofl:
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:28:02
Quote by Raine: MONDO GAVE A SPOILER!!!!!
DO NOT READ HIS QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote by Mondobubba: ZOMG! Omar is living large in a tropical paradise with his boy-toy!
That was not a spoiler a spoiler would be; redacted redacted redacted and then Bunk said f&%k you, Jimmy!
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:28:25
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:28:25
A full segemnt of *Bushed* tonite???
Guh... I dunno, can I stomach this??
Wodka, I think I might need wodka....
Guh... I dunno, can I stomach this??
Wodka, I think I might need wodka....
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:32:26
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:32:26
Hey its Jason Bateman's birthday! :metal:
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 01:39:49
touche...
:spew:
:rofl:
Raine on 01/15/2008 01:39:49
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: MONDO GAVE A SPOILER!!!!!
DO NOT READ HIS QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote by Mondobubba: ZOMG! Omar is living large in a tropical paradise with his boy-toy!
That was not a spoiler a spoiler would be; redacted redacted redacted and then Bunk said f&%k you, Jimmy!
:rofl:
:spew:
:rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:40:18
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:40:18
Nice Bushed segment, KO.
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 01:40:58
Just barely.
Ooh, Jonah Goldberg on the worst person list. He's supposed to be on Thom's show tomorrow, maybe he can school him on the meaning of Fascism.
livingonli on 01/15/2008 01:40:58
Quote by Raine: heya liv, I see you were able to wake up.
Just barely.
Ooh, Jonah Goldberg on the worst person list. He's supposed to be on Thom's show tomorrow, maybe he can school him on the meaning of Fascism.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:43:52
Ya see me telling you about Omar does revel any important plot points.
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:43:52
Quote by Raine:touche...Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: MONDO GAVE A SPOILER!!!!!
DO NOT READ HIS QUOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote by Mondobubba: ZOMG! Omar is living large in a tropical paradise with his boy-toy!
That was not a spoiler a spoiler would be; redacted redacted redacted and then Bunk said f&%k you, Jimmy!
:rofl:
:spew:
:rofl:
Ya see me telling you about Omar does revel any important plot points.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:50:09
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:50:09
Ohh man, Jonah was only worser. Not worst. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:55:06
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:55:06
:rofl: 
:rofl: This is brilliant.
:rofl: This is brilliant.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:56:24
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 01:56:24
Malmedy, Macris, loofas. :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:00:16
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:00:16
SLAM! I cannot wait for this last segment to arrive on the internets. KO gave a TOTAL KO to Frank burns.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:03:35
Jeepers. Kos has some super power, I guess.
I never thought KO was pulling for or against anyone.
But very very kool that he posted.
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:03:35
Quote by Mondobubba: Keith on Kos! :thud:
Jeepers. Kos has some super power, I guess.
I never thought KO was pulling for or against anyone.
But very very kool that he posted.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:03:54
It was a grand beeeeyatch slappin'! :D
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:03:54
Quote by Raine: SLAM! I cannot wait for this last segment to arrive on the internets. KO gave a TOTAL KO to Frank burns.
It was a grand beeeeyatch slappin'! :D
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:06:26
livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:06:26
Raine, I was going to say that the Rangers are on Versus but they are losing to Pittsburgh 3-0. Tomorrow night, Versus will have the Islanders en Montreal contre Les Canadiens.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:09:43
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:09:43
And, as I read some of those comments, I am wondering why the Kos folk seem to be so angry at KO.
:shakes haed: I thought I was pretty progressive, and those posts make me look almost conservative.
:shakes haed: I thought I was pretty progressive, and those posts make me look almost conservative.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:11:40
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:11:40
WOW. Craig Crawford lost his temper on Dan!
Whew that is something you do not see everyday.
I do not like the continued dabate over whether or not the Clintons are rascist. They are not. ALL of this is totally ridiculous.
On both camps.
Whew that is something you do not see everyday.
I do not like the continued dabate over whether or not the Clintons are rascist. They are not. ALL of this is totally ridiculous.
On both camps.
Comment by starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:14:47
starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:14:47
Dan's point just now that journalists should act as lawyers and determine what is "fair" and what isn't???
MmmmNyyooo.....
That would be a PUNDIT's job.
MmmmNyyooo.....
That would be a PUNDIT's job.
Comment by starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:19:03
starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:19:03
Blah, blah....National Security.....blah, blah, blah.....
Comment by starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:22:12
starling310 on 01/15/2008 02:22:12
Did the 9-11 hijackers come over the Mexican border?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:24:27
Yeah all those brown people are conspiring against us Ahmuricahs!
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:24:27
Quote by starling310: Did the 9-11 hijackers come over the Mexican border?
Yeah all those brown people are conspiring against us Ahmuricahs!
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:25:30
livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:25:30
Larry King is discussing the pregnant marine who was murdered.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:30:03
Same day as one of my sistalov's. 
he is an aquarius...
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:30:03
Quote by Mondobubba: Does Momma know Keith turns fifty on the 27th
he is an aquarius...
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:31:28
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:31:28
Evening, folks.
:kickcan:
More drama at the cubbies this evening. Prolly should have taught the kids how to be white supremacist skinheads instead of homophobes.
At least that's what one parent is accusing another one of, to the point where the white lady had to call the cops last week...and a gang of blacks beat up her kid on the bus. (and remember, these are grade-schoolers.)
Sheesh, I've been at this 20 years, and I can't remember a season filled with so much turmoil.
:kickcan:
More drama at the cubbies this evening. Prolly should have taught the kids how to be white supremacist skinheads instead of homophobes.
At least that's what one parent is accusing another one of, to the point where the white lady had to call the cops last week...and a gang of blacks beat up her kid on the bus. (and remember, these are grade-schoolers.)
Sheesh, I've been at this 20 years, and I can't remember a season filled with so much turmoil.
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:34:28
Didn't they cross over from Canada because the northern border looks like this?
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:34:28
Quote by starling310: Did the 9-11 hijackers come over the Mexican border?
Didn't they cross over from Canada because the northern border looks like this?
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:35:48
No, but they could, and so we should take away thier property, no questions asked... becuase they may one day think about possibly commintting and act on the date called 9-11... someday. And we need to be prepared for that.
Good god. it is all so stupid. these pundits want us all to be afraid of the strawman, and it scares me even more that our national security is now basically as follows... IT could happen, so you should give up you life, liberty and pursuit of happiness becuase the governementknows better than you.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't that what the friggin republicans always said the dems would do ???
:grumble:
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:35:48
Quote by starling310: Did the 9-11 hijackers come over the Mexican border?
Good god. it is all so stupid. these pundits want us all to be afraid of the strawman, and it scares me even more that our national security is now basically as follows... IT could happen, so you should give up you life, liberty and pursuit of happiness becuase the governementknows better than you.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't that what the friggin republicans always said the dems would do ???
:grumble:
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:36:45
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:36:45
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:38:08
OMG.
Are you a cub scout leader or a referee between parents?
:hug: and a special for you tri.
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:38:08
Quote by TriSec: Evening, folks.
:kickcan:
More drama at the cubbies this evening. Prolly should have taught the kids how to be white supremacist skinheads instead of homophobes.
At least that's what one parent is accusing another one of, to the point where the white lady had to call the cops last week...and a gang of blacks beat up her kid on the bus. (and remember, these are grade-schoolers.)
Sheesh, I've been at this 20 years, and I can't remember a season filled with so much turmoil.
Are you a cub scout leader or a referee between parents?
:hug: and a special
for you tri.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:41:17
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:41:17
You know what the best thing we could do for national security is? Invest in our infrstrucure and our education system.
IT's natinal security... not the fear fo other countries that we border with. Last time I checked Mexico and Canada were our allies.
F*ckin Fred.
IT's natinal security... not the fear fo other countries that we border with. Last time I checked Mexico and Canada were our allies.
F*ckin Fred.
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:42:55
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:42:55
*grunt*
Oh, this one is stereotype city.
Parent A is a triple commited, Boy Scout/Girl Scout/Sports family.
Parent B is a single mother, 'woe is me' type who won't lift a finger to help herself.
So, when things don't go her way, she cries racism.
Oh, this one is stereotype city.
Parent A is a triple commited, Boy Scout/Girl Scout/Sports family.
Parent B is a single mother, 'woe is me' type who won't lift a finger to help herself.
So, when things don't go her way, she cries racism.
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:44:26
You know I love it when you rant.
:wub:
livingonli on 01/15/2008 02:44:26
Quote by Raine: You know what the best thing we could do for national security is? Invest in our infrstrucure and our education system.
IT's natinal security... not the fear fo other countries that we border with. Last time I checked Mexico and Canada were our allies.
F*ckin Fred.
You know I love it when you rant.
:wub:
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:44:40
Why what the hell are you, woman? Some sorta Reb Wobbly????
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:44:40
Quote by Raine: You know what the best thing we could do for national security is? Invest in our infrstrucure and our education system.
IT's natinal security... not the fear fo other countries that we border with. Last time I checked Mexico and Canada were our allies.
F*ckin Fred.
Why what the hell are you, woman? Some sorta Reb Wobbly????
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:44:52
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:44:52
Oh, and in other news, we had "Thundersnow" this morning for a brief period during the non-nor'easter event today.
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:46:35
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:46:35
Do you think it's me? We didn't have this drama last season when I was Committee Chair...only since becoming Cubmaster has this gone to hell.
Go figure, Cubmaster is really just a figurehead and ceremonial position...the real power in the Cub Pack is the Committee Chair.
Aw, foo. Maybe I should just go back to being a Webelos Den Leader (as I have been for the majority of my Scouter career...)
Go figure, Cubmaster is really just a figurehead and ceremonial position...the real power in the Cub Pack is the Committee Chair.
Aw, foo. Maybe I should just go back to being a Webelos Den Leader (as I have been for the majority of my Scouter career...)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:47:55
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:47:55
OMG, a Family Guy Star Wars parody. Stewie is Darth Vader.
Stewie is Darth Vader.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:49:32
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:49:32
Kucinich Supporters!!!
This is huge and wonderful news. Not just for you, but for everyone who is fed up with the media making the primaries an invitation only party.
This is huge and wonderful news. Not just for you, but for everyone who is fed up with the media making the primaries an invitation only party.
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:50:46
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:50:46
TriSec is spent. I'm goin' ta bed.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:53:37
Don't ever tell, but I sorta miss Noreasters. And I totally miss Thunder snow.
And to your other question, I say no it isn't you, Tri.
It seems as tho some parents are asking you to solve some issues that if they really understood scouting, would not be an issue at all.
Of course, I could be off base. But the reality is this, you are there for the kids. No?
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:53:37
Quote by TriSec: Oh, and in other news, we had "Thundersnow" this morning for a brief period during the non-nor'easter event today.
And to your other question, I say no it isn't you, Tri.
It seems as tho some parents are asking you to solve some issues that if they really understood scouting, would not be an issue at all.
Of course, I could be off base. But the reality is this, you are there for the kids. No?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:55:26
Mondobubba on 01/15/2008 02:55:26
We've been watching "The Sarah Conner Chronicles" The little Terminatrix is hot.
Comment by TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:56:37
TriSec on 01/15/2008 02:56:37
"baby sitters of America" Raine...
99% of the parents "get it". It's that 1% that makes everyone else's life miserable.
99% of the parents "get it". It's that 1% that makes everyone else's life miserable.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 02:59:44
*sigh* got it , friend. you have a great sleep. See you in the AM.
... and do not let that 1% make you question yourself.
Just saying, tis all.
Raine on 01/15/2008 02:59:44
Quote by TriSec: "baby sitters of America" Raine...
99% of the parents "get it". It's that 1% that makes everyone else's life miserable.
... and do not let that 1% make you question yourself.
Just saying, tis all.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 03:05:06
Raine on 01/15/2008 03:05:06
I am watching Bill Maher. Dunno if I am awake enough to stay up...
But I am still working on my computer issues.
But I am still working on my computer issues.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 03:22:21
Raine on 01/15/2008 03:22:21
I do not usually post from another persons blog, but this one is REALLY Worth reading. It is from AmericaBlog, written by John Aravosis. I think it is very thought provoking. IT also helps to clear up for me personally where the rascist issues may legitamatly been raised.. aside from the whole founder of BET thing... which really pissed me off... more to come later.
I am the last person to believe that the clintons are rascist. I am... but I am saddened that they are using the race card to slam obama.
And this article puts all my wondering into a clear thought process.
I am not pleased at all with this game that they are playing.
When Hillary Clinton's people want to hit you hard, you'll never see it coming... or going. When Obama tries to go after you, you'll know it before he does (i.e., it'll be a bit clumsy and less-than-effective). While I'm divided on Hillary's harsh tactics against Obama in the primaries, that kind of take-no-prisoners politics is exactly what we need, and often lack, in the general election. I'm just not sure I like to see it done against fellow Democrats.
Take the recent spate of subtle, many would say racially-tinged, knocks the Clinton camp has been throwing at Obama. They've talked about Obama "shucking and jiving," about how Martin Luther King was a great man but couldn't have done it without President Johnson, about how the idea of a black man being president is a "fairy tale," and then there's the Clinton folks' penchant for lacing far too many conversations with a veiled reference to Obama's teenage drug use (aka young black male on drugs).
Now, the Clinton people will be the first to tell you that race was NOT what they meant in any of the above instances. And that may be true, though it's a tough stretch. On the shuck and jive thing, it's a phrase used to describe slaves. As for MLK, Hillary basically took the accomplishments of America's most famous black man down a notch because Obama was implicitly comparing himself to King. On the fairy tale thing, I didn't interpret it to be a racial thing, but lots of people did. And finally, the drug thing. It's a great smear in and of itself, since Obama admitted his youthful indiscretion long ago, but there's that added little zing of the public thinking "young black male, drugs." In all of the cases, race is there. Why? Because it hurts Obama in the polls, in my view, every time America remembers that he's a black man rather than a man who, oh yeah, happens to be black.
And there is a difference. Think of it this way. You have friends who are white, black, Asian, gay, and disabled. Do you refer to them - do you THINK of them - as your black friend, your gay friend, your disabled friend? Probably not. Of course you know that each has that particular trait, but it's not how you define them - it's practically an after-thought. The more that Obama's race is an after-thought, the better I suspect he does in the polls (I still think race played a role in New Hampshire). In any case, at the very least, it probably doesn't help Obama with most of the white (and non-black) vote to constantly remind people that he's black.
Oh but it gets better. The way the Clinton campaign has framed these issues, and the debate surrounding them, if Obama engages in a tit-for-tat with Hillary, all he will do is remind people that he's black (by saying "no my campaign is NOT about race" Obama is still talking about race while saying he's not), and he'll be reminding people, or educating them for the first time, that he dallied with drugs as a kid (e.g., "Hillary should stop the personal attacks about my youthful drug use") - it's simply impossible to respond to Clinton's attacks, and denials, without further the discussion about the very topics Obama doesn't want us to talk about.
It's a tactic I used when I launched DearMary.com in early 2004 in order to educate the world about the fact Vice President Cheney has an openly lesbian daughter (while it was known in gay circles for years, the media would generally refuse to mention the fact that Mary was gay). After the site was launched, that all changed. How? Because Mary's defenders in the political world and the media kept saying, publicly and loudly, how awful it was that I was publicly talking about her being a lesbian. I went on TV show after TV show to discuss whether it was okay to launch a Web site talking about the fact that the vice president's daughter was a lesbian. Well, at that point, I'd already won. With every bit of criticism I received, the story was out there even further.
And that's the pickle for Obama. When Hillary criticizes him for injecting race into the campaign (or brings up the drug thing), all Obama can do is take the hit or respond and start talking about race (or drugs), which makes people think about the very issues Obama would rather avoid.
I am the last person to believe that the clintons are rascist. I am... but I am saddened that they are using the race card to slam obama.
And this article puts all my wondering into a clear thought process.
I am not pleased at all with this game that they are playing.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 03:23:49
Raine on 01/15/2008 03:23:49
And please, do not be afraid to give AmericaBlog some love. Tell them what blog sent ya. ;)
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 03:47:12
Raine on 01/15/2008 03:47:12
I have been briefly watching Bill Maher... BUT... I want Matt Taibbi to be the next press secretary...
FOR THE DEMS.
The man just gave a spanking to to Tony Snow.
FOR THE DEMS.
The man just gave a spanking to to Tony Snow.
Comment by Raine on 01/15/2008 03:48:14
Raine on 01/15/2008 03:48:14
... or is it Mike? I get him so confused with his dad...
I love the Taibbi Familia.
Always did Always will.
I love the Taibbi Familia.
Always did Always will.
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 04:03:58
livingonli on 01/15/2008 04:03:58
I still like that Jon Stewart calls the Republican debate a Reagan off.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/15/2008 04:06:16
shelaghc on 01/15/2008 04:06:16
Does anyone have a digital copy of A Daily Show? I'm feeling left out.
Comment by livingonli on 01/15/2008 04:19:12
livingonli on 01/15/2008 04:19:12
I just watch on the TV when I'm home.