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So now it's the sexism? or is it, really?
Author: Raine
Date: 02/11/2008 13:03:44
The Clinton Campaign is starting to really worry me. In case you all were not aware, David Schuster was suspended from MSNBC. Here is the comment in context, and the morning after... :
The Clintons, however took it to nth degree, IMO.
From the WSJ, on Friday:
It seems it was all a misunderstanding tho. Oh silly media. The Clinton's just want MSNBC to clean up their act... From ABC NEWS...Is this true? A presidential campaign is asking a news network to DO something, NOW that it affects them?... Or: Is this another version of race-gate that we had last month? (which in my minds eye was one great big publicity stunt.)
I have to question why ALL of a sudden the Clinton campaign is concerned about sexism on the airwaves. Why now suddenly, when it affects her 27 year old daughter who they STILL have off limits to reporters?
Where was Hillary when Ann Coulter attacked Elizabeth Edwards? OR John Edwards? OR Al Gore? OR HER??? The Hillary Bashing on a certain *nooz* network is legendary and well documented.
MSNBC has it's own problems as well. Tweety and Morning Joe and Tucker... those are well documented as well. I won't deny that. I am not excusing David Schuster for his words, and I am glad that MSNBC took action, but for the Clinton Campaign to interject themselves like this into the situation is unacceptable to me.
It's intimidation. I for one am tired of it. We have had 7 years of media intimidation. In this day and age we Americans NEED something different...
We already have an administration that threatened and pressured the media into telling a story the way they wanted it told. Remember the pressure Scooter Libby and the VP's office placed on MSNBC to get Chris Matthews to shut up about Plame-gate? Slate Magazine mentioned just a touch of this back in November 2005.
What the Clinton campaign is doing by threatening to not debate on this channel is a little too similar to me. This concerns me. It's not the race, it's not the sexism, it's hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign. Never before has a comment made this campaign threaten to pull out of a debate. Actually she agreed to go on a Fox News Channel debate!
In all the hubbub this is the key to all of this. It was sexist. Schuster got suspended. Matthews didn't. Scarborough hasn't and both have said far worse directly aimed at AND about Senator Clinton. David didn't say anything about Chelsea, his comment was about how the campaign was using Chelsea. Was it in bad form? IMO, YES. I am not excusing it. But Chelsea is 27 years old. Either she is in the Clinton machine or she is out. She still won't grant interviews and the Clinton's are still treating her like she is a child. She is no longer a child. She still hasn't given a comment to this issue. She should be able to fight her own battles at this age. Either she is in the political game, or she isn't, but her Mom and Dad cannot keep protecting her.
As to the debate issue, this is ridiculous. lf ever there were a clear cut case of serious oversensitivity with the Clinton camp this is it. This actually makes them look weak, the way bullies look weak.
I mean, come on, the Clinton's both are touting the fact that they are very good friends with John McCain, when it was McCain who said that Chelsea was so 'ugly becuase she was actually the daughter of Janet Reno'... or did everyone forget that little bit if nastiness? Is Senator Clinton going to refuse a debate with Senator McCain if she gets the nomination?
It just seems like the Clintons are using this whole thing to exercise some kind of power they want to have over the media. If a Democratic Candidate agrees to go on Faux news for a debate... with all of the crap they pull... and instead threatens another network with a no-show over something that was stupid, but not part of a pattern of maliciousness, by one reporter, then I have to question motives, and the only thing I see is that this is a power play for the media.
Or... like race-gate in January, perhaps it's just another case of it's not the Clintons' fault. Both scenarios make me very uneasy. Then last night I stumbled across this video of a Clinton rally
Anyway, it is monday... I hope to see you inside, we we have nationalized continental breakfast!
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
The Clintons, however took it to nth degree, IMO.
From the WSJ, on Friday:
The controversial comment also could imperil Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's, D-N.Y., participation in future presidential debates on the network, a Clinton spokesman said.
It seems it was all a misunderstanding tho. Oh silly media. The Clinton's just want MSNBC to clean up their act... From ABC NEWS...
After some conversations with folks at the Clinton campaign, I can offer some clarity -- maybe -- on what they're asking NBC/MSNBC to do.
And despite Clinton's letter, saying David Martin Shuster's apology and suspension was not sufficient, Clinton's goal is not for NBC to fire Shuster, he and his fans will be happy to hear. Until Thursday, the Clinton campaign had no issues with Shuster, I'm told.
The campaign says it has more to do with what it sees as a sexist, locker room, on-air atmosphere at MSNBC.
Clinton supporters ask: what other network has had, within the space of one year, because of comments widely seen as boorish and inappropriate, a firing (Imus), an on-air apology (Chris Matthews) and a suspension (Shuster)?
Clinton, who has been on the receiving end in two of those incidents, is taking a stand for MSNBC to clean up its act. Or, so Camp Clinton says.
I have to question why ALL of a sudden the Clinton campaign is concerned about sexism on the airwaves. Why now suddenly, when it affects her 27 year old daughter who they STILL have off limits to reporters?
Where was Hillary when Ann Coulter attacked Elizabeth Edwards? OR John Edwards? OR Al Gore? OR HER??? The Hillary Bashing on a certain *nooz* network is legendary and well documented.
MSNBC has it's own problems as well. Tweety and Morning Joe and Tucker... those are well documented as well. I won't deny that. I am not excusing David Schuster for his words, and I am glad that MSNBC took action, but for the Clinton Campaign to interject themselves like this into the situation is unacceptable to me.
It's intimidation. I for one am tired of it. We have had 7 years of media intimidation. In this day and age we Americans NEED something different...
We already have an administration that threatened and pressured the media into telling a story the way they wanted it told. Remember the pressure Scooter Libby and the VP's office placed on MSNBC to get Chris Matthews to shut up about Plame-gate? Slate Magazine mentioned just a touch of this back in November 2005.
What the Clinton campaign is doing by threatening to not debate on this channel is a little too similar to me. This concerns me. It's not the race, it's not the sexism, it's hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign. Never before has a comment made this campaign threaten to pull out of a debate. Actually she agreed to go on a Fox News Channel debate!
In all the hubbub this is the key to all of this. It was sexist. Schuster got suspended. Matthews didn't. Scarborough hasn't and both have said far worse directly aimed at AND about Senator Clinton. David didn't say anything about Chelsea, his comment was about how the campaign was using Chelsea. Was it in bad form? IMO, YES. I am not excusing it. But Chelsea is 27 years old. Either she is in the Clinton machine or she is out. She still won't grant interviews and the Clinton's are still treating her like she is a child. She is no longer a child. She still hasn't given a comment to this issue. She should be able to fight her own battles at this age. Either she is in the political game, or she isn't, but her Mom and Dad cannot keep protecting her.
As to the debate issue, this is ridiculous. lf ever there were a clear cut case of serious oversensitivity with the Clinton camp this is it. This actually makes them look weak, the way bullies look weak.
I mean, come on, the Clinton's both are touting the fact that they are very good friends with John McCain, when it was McCain who said that Chelsea was so 'ugly becuase she was actually the daughter of Janet Reno'... or did everyone forget that little bit if nastiness? Is Senator Clinton going to refuse a debate with Senator McCain if she gets the nomination?
It just seems like the Clintons are using this whole thing to exercise some kind of power they want to have over the media. If a Democratic Candidate agrees to go on Faux news for a debate... with all of the crap they pull... and instead threatens another network with a no-show over something that was stupid, but not part of a pattern of maliciousness, by one reporter, then I have to question motives, and the only thing I see is that this is a power play for the media.
Or... like race-gate in January, perhaps it's just another case of it's not the Clintons' fault. Both scenarios make me very uneasy. Then last night I stumbled across this video of a Clinton rally
Anyway, it is monday... I hope to see you inside, we we have nationalized continental breakfast!
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
BobR on 02/11/2008 13:37:02
BobR on 02/11/2008 13:37:02
morning, folks... :coffee:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 02/11/2008 13:55:22
m-hadley on 02/11/2008 13:55:22
Mornin' everybody,
I am sharing this piece that I received from some friends(?) who are rabid Hillary supporters. It didn't sit well with me at the time, but Raine has articulated much better than I could the reason why we should all question this Shrillary "Cryin' wolf" schtick...
The Media Matters story was prefaced with these words, "The story below "isn't about Hillary Clinton's campaign. This is about a consistent pattern of misogynistic comments by Chris Matthews. Comments about and directed toward a variety of women. A consistent pattern of Matthews objectifying women. And a consistent pattern of MSNBC looking the other way." Sadly, Keith Olbermann was doing it too the other night. . . ."
I am not fan of Tweety, but I do think that Clintons are protesting a skosh too much, just MHO... Hope everybody has a good day ;)
I am sharing this piece that I received from some friends(?) who are rabid Hillary supporters. It didn't sit well with me at the time, but Raine has articulated much better than I could the reason why we should all question this Shrillary "Cryin' wolf" schtick...
The Media Matters story was prefaced with these words, "The story below "isn't about Hillary Clinton's campaign. This is about a consistent pattern of misogynistic comments by Chris Matthews. Comments about and directed toward a variety of women. A consistent pattern of Matthews objectifying women. And a consistent pattern of MSNBC looking the other way." Sadly, Keith Olbermann was doing it too the other night. . . ."
I am not fan of Tweety, but I do think that Clintons are protesting a skosh too much, just MHO... Hope everybody has a good day ;)
Comment by 
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:00:59
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:00:59
Bush orders clampdown on flight into the United States...
HEre is the kicker from the article found in the guardian:
HEre is the kicker from the article found in the guardian:
Washington is also asking European airlines to provide personal data on non-travellers - for example family members - who are allowed beyond departure barriers to help elderly, young or ill passengers to board aircraft flying to America, a demand the airlines reject as "absurd".
Comment by 
TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:01:00
TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:01:00
Hillary is a politician. That means she's interested in only one thing; raising money. And anything and everything she can use to do it, including any and all Rovian tactics, is fair game.
Somewhere, I can see Darth Cheney hiding in a corner, hissing at her, "You have done well, my young apprentice...."
Somewhere, I can see Darth Cheney hiding in a corner, hissing at her, "You have done well, my young apprentice...."
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:03:55
Good Morning Faye!
I kinda know that this post won't be very popular with some peopel this morning. I almost posted a disclaimer on it... but then I thought, hey it is just one of many observations about this debacle.
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:03:55
Quote by m-hadley: Mornin' everybody,
I am sharing this piece that I received from some friends(?) who are rabid Hillary supporters. It didn't sit well with me at the time, but Raine has articulated much better than I could the reason why we should all question this Shrillary "Cryin' wolf" schtick...
The Media Matters story was prefaced with these words, "The story below "isn't about Hillary Clinton's campaign. This is about a consistent pattern of misogynistic comments by Chris Matthews. Comments about and directed toward a variety of women. A consistent pattern of Matthews objectifying women. And a consistent pattern of MSNBC looking the other way." Sadly, Keith Olbermann was doing it too the other night. . . ."
I am not fan of Tweety, but I do think that Clintons are protesting a skosh too much, just MHO... Hope everybody has a good day ;)
I kinda know that this post won't be very popular with some peopel this morning. I almost posted a disclaimer on it... but then I thought, hey it is just one of many observations about this debacle.
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:09:44
TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:09:44
Say, has anyone else noticed the latest round of "Dish" ads on the teevee machine?
Is that our own Mr. James Ward doing the Bush impression about "recordifying with the Dish-Divr?"
Is that our own Mr. James Ward doing the Bush impression about "recordifying with the Dish-Divr?"
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:11:21
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:11:21
awww, the little mini 
voice monkey...
voice monkey...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:12:55
....oooOOOOOooo....
Mala, that means you vote tomorrow right? It is mini super tuesday™, you know.
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:12:55
Mala, that means you vote tomorrow right? It is mini super tuesday™, you know.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:16:46
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:16:46
I dunno about the rumour of the Samoans.... I present to you ... The Naked Samoans...
All about the naked Samoans... And they look pretty svelt to me.
All about the naked Samoans... And they look pretty svelt to me.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 14:17:35
Morning ya'll.
Tri, that's Frank Caliando (sp)doing the impression. I think Jim does a better "george" than him.
I've been up all night and won't be around til much later. We have a HUGE brush fire last night, evacuations, setting up shelters, feeding fire fighters............the usual. Fire is still raging. But I'm off to get some sleep.
Have a great day. Dammit, I'll miss Steph!!
velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 14:17:35
Quote by TriSec: Say, has anyone else noticed the latest round of "Dish" ads on the teevee machine?
Is that our own Mr. James Ward doing the Bush impression about "recordifying with the Dish-Divr?"
Morning ya'll.
Tri, that's Frank Caliando (sp)doing the impression. I think Jim does a better "george" than him.
I've been up all night and won't be around til much later. We have a HUGE brush fire last night, evacuations, setting up shelters, feeding fire fighters............the usual. Fire is still raging. But I'm off to get some sleep.
Have a great day. Dammit, I'll miss Steph!!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:20:13
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:20:13
:hug: to our Velveeta Jones...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:24:42
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:24:42
:banana: Flashlight! 
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:24:55
TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:24:55
The Air Wing sends some help to Velveeta:
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:28:22
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:28:22
The show is talking about the same topic as the blog now!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:29:09
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:29:09
:clown: Woooo! 
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:36:09
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:36:09
:rofl: ::::Joe biden::: "that's old."
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:36:44
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:36:44
:bow: to caller.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:37:36
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:37:36
Does anyone remebr whenTucker said that hillary lookd uptite and that he would be willing to release some of her stress?
Comment by m-hadley on 02/11/2008 14:37:48
Ha cha cha cha
m-hadley on 02/11/2008 14:37:48
Quote by Raine: I dunno about the rumour of the Samoans.... I present to you ... The Naked Samoans...
All about the naked Samoans... And they look pretty svelt to me.
Ha cha cha cha
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 14:38:49
Frank Caliendo does the audio AND the visual, so I'll cut him some slack on the audio...
BobR on 02/11/2008 14:38:49
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning ya'll.
Tri, that's Frank Caliando (sp)doing the impression. I think Jim does a better "george" than him.
Frank Caliendo does the audio AND the visual, so I'll cut him some slack on the audio...
Comment by m-hadley on 02/11/2008 14:40:35
Damn Velveeta,
Where do you live? I'm sending you some very wet thoughts - not in a dirty way ;)
Hang in there...
mfaye
m-hadley on 02/11/2008 14:40:35
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by TriSec: Say, has anyone else noticed the latest round of "Dish" ads on the teevee machine?
Is that our own Mr. James Ward doing the Bush impression about "recordifying with the Dish-Divr?"
Morning ya'll.
Tri, that's Frank Caliando (sp)doing the impression. I think Jim does a better "george" than him.
I've been up all night and won't be around til much later. We have a HUGE brush fire last night, evacuations, setting up shelters, feeding fire fighters............the usual. Fire is still raging. But I'm off to get some sleep.
Have a great day. Dammit, I'll miss Steph!!
Damn Velveeta,
Where do you live? I'm sending you some very wet thoughts - not in a dirty way ;)
Hang in there...
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:40:39
From the media matters link, that Faye gave us.
where was hillary on that comment?
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:40:39
"And then there's MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, who has described Hillary Clinton as "whining" and suggested the reason there are so few women in Congress is that "most women are so sensible, they don't want to get involved in something as stupid as politics" and said of Clinton, "then she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs," and described her as "castrating, overbearing, and scary." (MSNBC can't say they didn't know what they were getting when they hired Carlson; before joining the cable channel, he said women "want to be spanked vigorously every once in a while" and told Elle magazine that Clinton is his "guilty fantasy," explaining: "Every time I see her I think I could, you know, help. ... She seems tense.")
From the media matters link, that Faye gave us.
where was hillary on that comment?
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 14:41:26
BobR on 02/11/2008 14:41:26
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:41:35
Well, I always think my work is finished if Dr. Maddow talks about one of the same things I've managed to blog or post during the day...
TriSec on 02/11/2008 14:41:35
Quote by Raine: The show is talking about the same topic as the blog now!
Well, I always think my work is finished if Dr. Maddow talks about one of the same things I've managed to blog or post during the day...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:49:41
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:49:41
This is the problem... Hillary and her campaign are intimidating the media.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:50:35
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:50:35
People are NOT ALLOWED to ask her (chelsea) anything.
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 14:55:40
BobR on 02/11/2008 14:55:40
Raine coming up next on the Momma show!!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:56:08
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:56:08
Whew.
Comment by 
livingonli on 02/11/2008 14:56:22
livingonli on 02/11/2008 14:56:22
RAINE!!! 
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 14:59:31
Raine on 02/11/2008 14:59:31
:( That is sad. Tom Lantos was the only member of congress that was a holocaust survivor.
Comment by 
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 15:00:26
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 15:00:26
'gmornin' all.
I'm now in a quiet zone - no streaming until/unless I feel like the guy I'm working for would be cool with it.
Since he tends to leave his door open and my desk is barely three feet from his door, I have a feeling that ain't happenin' anytime soon.
::::le sigh:::::
I'm now in a quiet zone - no streaming until/unless I feel like the guy I'm working for would be cool with it.
Since he tends to leave his door open and my desk is barely three feet from his door, I have a feeling that ain't happenin' anytime soon.
::::le sigh:::::
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:02:33
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:02:33
regarding my call, I am more than sure that I pissed of EVERY clinton supporter out there, but it really bothers me how this entier issue is getting so conflated.
The Clintons cannot always put themselves out there as victims.
The Clintons cannot always put themselves out there as victims.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:02:53
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:02:53
Good morning Shelagh!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:03:25
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:03:25
Morning! :hug:
Dang! I missed Raine on the radio-machine!
DC Question - what were the dates we settled on?
Dang! I missed Raine on the radio-machine!
DC Question - what were the dates we settled on?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:04:54
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:04:54
Holy crap! Chief Broadie died! I named my 24 hour dog after him 
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:05:04
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:05:04
BTW, good morning everyone. 
It's a cold one in the northeast. I wish I could stay in bed.
It's a cold one in the northeast. I wish I could stay in bed.
Comment by m-hadley on 02/11/2008 15:07:30
Damn,
Thank god for the StephCast - I missed Raine, too ;)
Did you give 'em hell grrrl???
mfaye
m-hadley on 02/11/2008 15:07:30
Quote by livingonli: RAINE!!!
Damn,
Thank god for the StephCast - I missed Raine, too ;)
Did you give 'em hell grrrl???
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:09:31
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:09:31
I dunno IF I gave anyone hell, I just wanted to point out how last month the Clintons claimed that they were the victims of the media during Race gate and this month it is Schuster gate... and that I think that they are intimidating the media.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 15:10:28
I may have to start subscribing too. Thing is, there are only so many hours in the day to listen to shows, you know? And my entire commute to and from isn't long enough to listen to even half of the show - even if I could dl it from work.
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 15:10:28
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by livingonli: RAINE!!!
Damn,
Thank god for the StephCast - I missed Raine, too ;)
Did you give 'em hell grrrl???
mfaye
I may have to start subscribing too. Thing is, there are only so many hours in the day to listen to shows, you know? And my entire commute to and from isn't long enough to listen to even half of the show - even if I could dl it from work.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:12:40
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:12:40
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:13:06
Mala, At this point I really have no idea... :(
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:13:06
Quote by wickedpam: Morning! :hug:
Dang! I missed Raine on the radio-machine!
DC Question - what were the dates we settled on?
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:14:13
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:14:13
That's what happens when Jim forgets his cup. 
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:14:37
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:14:37
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:15:16
Maybe it should be a poll question
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:15:16
Quote by Raine:Mala, At this point I really have no idea... :(Quote by wickedpam: Morning! :hug:
Dang! I missed Raine on the radio-machine!
DC Question - what were the dates we settled on?
Maybe it should be a poll question
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:18:50
That we do. If we can settle it so I can make a vacation request.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:18:50
Quote by Raine:Mala, At this point I really have no idea... :(Quote by wickedpam: Morning! :hug:
Dang! I missed Raine on the radio-machine!
DC Question - what were the dates we settled on?
That we do. If we can settle it so I can make a vacation request.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:21:24
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:21:24
Not a bad idea Mala...
I did however find out that my dad is coming the beginning of May, So may is now out for me...
I did however find out that my dad is coming the beginning of May, So may is now out for me...
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 15:21:44
Great idea!
Done - please vote!
BobR on 02/11/2008 15:21:44
Quote by wickedpam:
Maybe it should be a poll question
Great idea!
Done - please vote!
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:25:23
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:25:23
Voted!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:25:50
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:25:50
I don't think that Chris ever said that he agreed with what david Schuster said...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:27:48
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:27:48
Colin Powell is looking for a cabinet post... 
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:28:29
Must have been the caffine :D
Done and done!
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:28:29
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Maybe it should be a poll question
Great idea!
Done - please vote!
Must have been the caffine
:DDone and done!
Comment by 
starling310 on 02/11/2008 15:29:16
starling310 on 02/11/2008 15:29:16
Good morning.
I discovered that my ex's "shiny new girlfriend" dons a Hillary sticker on her car. Just one more reason for me. . .
GO OBAMA!
I discovered that my ex's "shiny new girlfriend" dons a Hillary sticker on her car. Just one more reason for me. . .
GO OBAMA!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:32:58
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:32:58
Speaking of the Potomac primary - found out last night on the news that Hills was in Manassas! I was so pissed that I got no email from the VA Dems or PWC Dems or even Manassas Dems! I would have liked to have heard her speak, same with Obama. VA Dem party is just not on the ball.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:33:31
john.he.is.
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:33:31
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:35:50
She couldn't deal with an artist working her craft but she can deal with a Shillary supporter.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:35:50
Quote by starling310: Good morning.
I discovered that my ex's "shiny new girlfriend" dons a Hillary sticker on her car. Just one more reason for me. . .
GO OBAMA!
She couldn't deal with an artist working her craft but she can deal with a Shillary supporter.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:36:37
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:36:37
No one contacted you at all Mala??
Man, that is really sorta sad. Even here the Atlanta Dems tell us when the candidates are in town.
Man, that is really sorta sad. Even here the Atlanta Dems tell us when the candidates are in town.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:37:49
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:37:49
Pot on the line, kettle calling... Hillary needs to back out of the Faux debate, I personally think.
Comment by starling310 on 02/11/2008 15:38:40
It's disgusting. Have I taught her NOTHING!?
starling310 on 02/11/2008 15:38:40
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310: Good morning.
I discovered that my ex's "shiny new girlfriend" dons a Hillary sticker on her car. Just one more reason for me. . .
GO OBAMA!
She couldn't deal with an artist working her craft but she can deal with a Shillary supporter.
It's disgusting. Have I taught her NOTHING!?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:39:16
Nope to an email, nothing. It would have been nice to know too.
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:39:16
Quote by Raine: No one contacted you at all Mala??
Man, that is really sorta sad. Even here the Atlanta Dems tell us when the candidates are in town.
Nope to an email, nothing. It would have been nice to know too.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:39:17
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:39:17
I find it very interesting how FEW Clinton supporters are calling into the show today.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:39:24
With all the things Fixed Noise has said about her, why would she appear on that network but not a legitimate news organization? Why do moments like that keep going my suspicions that she is Republican Lite.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:39:24
Quote by Raine: Pot on the line, kettle calling... Hillary needs to back out of the Faux debate, I personally think.
With all the things Fixed Noise has said about her, why would she appear on that network but not a legitimate news organization? Why do moments like that keep going my suspicions that she is Republican Lite.
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 15:39:59
Secretary of LIARS?
BobR on 02/11/2008 15:39:59
Quote by Raine: Colin Powell is looking for a cabinet post...
Secretary of LIARS?
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:41:21
I wonder if it becuase of things like this that caused the campaign shake up. If the campaign isn't reaching out to local Dem groups, that is pretty bad.
But then again, it could be your local group, as you said.
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:41:21
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: No one contacted you at all Mala??
Man, that is really sorta sad. Even here the Atlanta Dems tell us when the candidates are in town.
Nope to an email, nothing. It would have been nice to know too.
I wonder if it becuase of things like this that caused the campaign shake up. If the campaign isn't reaching out to local Dem groups, that is pretty bad.
But then again, it could be your local group, as you said.
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 15:42:51
TriSec on 02/11/2008 15:42:51
This commonwealth isn't any better at getting the word out...
And I'm on Sen. Kerry's mailing list as a former campaign volunteer.
Seeing all the organizations that have my email address and contact info, I received no robo-calls leading up to stupor Tuesday, nor did we receive any significant mailings, not even from candidate websites where I specifically signed up...
The campaign does seem strangely disconnected from the masses...
And I'm on Sen. Kerry's mailing list as a former campaign volunteer.
Seeing all the organizations that have my email address and contact info, I received no robo-calls leading up to stupor Tuesday, nor did we receive any significant mailings, not even from candidate websites where I specifically signed up...
The campaign does seem strangely disconnected from the masses...
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:43:41
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:43:41
I think it was more a local thing.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:50:25
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 15:50:25
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:50:59
livingonli on 02/11/2008 15:50:59
So squirrel doesn't taste like chicken. 
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:51:14
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:51:14
:rofl: The mooks are too funny.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:55:09
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:55:09
If hillary raised all that money, did she give herself that 5 MILLION dollars back?!?!?!?
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 15:56:07
TriSec on 02/11/2008 15:56:07
Great.
Now one of my scouts that was part of the initial wave last week (patient #3 or 4 with the flu last week) supposedly has Strep this week.
I'm going to be forced to call a quarrantine at the meeting this week.
(Patient Zero attended a function at the cable TV station last weekend and infected the entire tiger den, most of whom have older siblings in other dens, and then into the school system.)
Now one of my scouts that was part of the initial wave last week (patient #3 or 4 with the flu last week) supposedly has Strep this week.
I'm going to be forced to call a quarrantine at the meeting this week.
(Patient Zero attended a function at the cable TV station last weekend and infected the entire tiger den, most of whom have older siblings in other dens, and then into the school system.)
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 15:58:41
Raine on 02/11/2008 15:58:41
:rofl: Tucker is a whore!!! 
Raine apologizes for laughing at that purely sexist joke... :P
Raine apologizes for laughing at that purely sexist joke... :P
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:00:56
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:00:56
Notice that Tucker is not doing his show and they stick him out in the field god knows where.
Is that the sign he is being shown the door?
Oh, please, bring Rachel on?
Is that the sign he is being shown the door?
Oh, please, bring Rachel on?
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:03:36
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:03:36
Mala, have you been watching Season Two of Torchwood? I still have the first three episodes sitting in my DVR.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 16:05:55
Did they buy him a one-way plane ticket?
BobR on 02/11/2008 16:05:55
Quote by livingonli: Notice that Tucker is not doing his show and they stick him out in the field god knows where.
Is that the sign he is being shown the door?
Oh, please, bring Rachel on?
Did they buy him a one-way plane ticket?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:06:24
Cool! I didn't know Sarah Jane was getting her own show - that'll be cool. I love K9.
Totally watching Torchwood! Think Jack's cornered the market on snogging every guy he's ever met except Owen.
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:06:24
Quote by livingonli: Mala, have you been watching Season Two of Torchwood? I still have the first three episodes sitting in my DVR.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
Cool! I didn't know Sarah Jane was getting her own show - that'll be cool. I love K9.
Totally watching Torchwood! Think Jack's cornered the market on snogging every guy he's ever met except Owen.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:07:59
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:07:59
OH! That reminds me, in case 
producer chris is lurking about... We now have a 
emoticon!
producer chris is lurking about... We now have a emoticon!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:10:17
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:10:17
No one should miss that! :p
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:11:57
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:11:57
Shall we keep the poll will stay open until about 3 pm? Looks like people are voting, We have 6 votes...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:12:47
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:12:47
That cannot be possible. William Shatner HAD to have watched STAR TREK... What about his cop show? you gonna tell me he never looked at heather Locklear??
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:13:40
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:13:40
It looks like the NFL Network is running a 90-minute replay of the Super Bowl all day today.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:14:00
That is why I love it so much!
IT's 'uge!!!! 'ead" look at it!!
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:14:00
Quote by wickedpam: No one should miss that! :p
That is why I love it so much!
IT's 'uge!!!! 'ead" look at it!!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:17:10
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:17:10
Don't mess with my fave movie!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:18:22
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:18:22
:rofl: :foil:
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:18:46
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:18:46
Jim drunk dials. :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 16:19:35
We should let Velveeta and Mondo chime in...
BobR on 02/11/2008 16:19:35
Quote by Raine: Shall we keep the poll will stay open until about 3 pm? Looks like people are voting, We have 6 votes...
We should let Velveeta and Mondo chime in...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:19:52
I love SO I married an Axe Murderer!
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:19:52
Quote by wickedpam: Don't mess with my fave movie!
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:20:44
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:20:44
I just sent HBK a PM.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:21:16
:clown: :So I have a Sunni Disposition in the morning!
:foil: : No Shi'ite.
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:21:16
:clown: :So I have a Sunni Disposition in the morning!
:foil: : No Shi'ite.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:21:27
:huh:
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:21:27
Quote by Raine:I love SO I married an Axe Murderer!Quote by wickedpam: Don't mess with my fave movie!
:huh:
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:22:36
I think Ms. Jones and Mondo have both stated that we should choose and if they can work it in, they are in.
But... I am fine with waiting until this evening.
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:22:36
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine: Shall we keep the poll will stay open until about 3 pm? Looks like people are voting, We have 6 votes...
We should let Velveeta and Mondo chime in...
But... I am fine with waiting until this evening.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:24:05
:redface: I thought you were referring to my "head" comment. I guess I missed something on the big Shoo.
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:24:05
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I love SO I married an Axe Murderer!Quote by wickedpam: Don't mess with my fave movie!
:huh:
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:25:15
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:25:15
:prince: the WHO! 
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:27:17
:hug:
OOooohhhhhh - I was talking about Steph making a joke about Roy Schider dying and not being eaten by a shark. :D
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:27:17
Quote by Raine::redface: I thought you were referring to my "head" comment. I guess I missed something on the big Shoo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I love SO I married an Axe Murderer!Quote by wickedpam: Don't mess with my fave movie!
:huh:
:hug:
OOooohhhhhh - I was talking about Steph making a joke about Roy Schider dying and not being eaten by a shark. :D
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:27:38
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:27:38
The media is being nice to barack... 
The media has been MORE than far to the Clintons...
The media WAS NOT FAIR to a lot of other candidates.
The media has been MORE than far to the Clintons...
The media WAS NOT FAIR to a lot of other candidates.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:30:10
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:30:10
they ARE making David Schuster the story, an that pisses me off becuase MSNBC suspened him!
They did what they should have done!
AND ... no one ever called chelsea a whore. The distasteful comment was directed AT the Clinton campaign. Jesus it really burns my but that we are STILL waiting for Chelsea to say at LEAST something about this.
They did what they should have done!
AND ... no one ever called chelsea a whore. The distasteful comment was directed AT the Clinton campaign. Jesus it really burns my but that we are STILL waiting for Chelsea to say at LEAST something about this.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:31:46
Like Edwards and Kucinich.
And they act like Mike Gravel doesn't even exist.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:31:46
Quote by Raine: The media is being nice to barack...
The media has been MORE than far to the Clintons...
The media WAS NOT FAIR to a lot of other candidates.
Like Edwards and Kucinich.
And they act like Mike Gravel doesn't even exist.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:33:47
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:33:47
ou know the part of me is wondering if the Clinton campaign made a big brewhaha over this so the media would ignore the fact that they had a pretty MAJOR staff shake up over the weekend, which DID come on the heels of Hillary loaning herself a lot money.
Just saying...
part of me is wondering if the Clinton campaign made a big brewhaha over this so the media would ignore the fact that they had a pretty MAJOR staff shake up over the weekend, which DID come on the heels of Hillary loaning herself a lot money. Just saying...
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:37:54
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:37:54
Mitt brought it with the *Bling Bling*
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:39:44
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:39:44
These days, Republicans need the zombie vote.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:40:17
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:40:17
:grumble:
The point is, Hillary should not be threatening to pull out of a debate.
The point is, Hillary should not be threatening to pull out of a debate.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:41:06
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:41:06
Political Enimas??
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:41:55
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:41:55
Hillary? Anti establishment? 
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:43:39
BTW, this video is a do is a satirical response to the Yes.We. Can video done for the Obama campaign.
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:43:39
Quote by Raine:john.he.is.
BTW, this video is a do is a satirical response to the Yes.We. Can video done for the Obama campaign.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 16:43:44
Sarah Jane will be shown here?!!!!
Will the show be uncut or will SciFi damage the eps with extra commercials?
Now all I have to do is find some kind soul to record the eps for me.
Sarah Jane Smith was my *favorite* companion!
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 16:43:44
Quote by livingonli: Mala, have you been watching Season Two of Torchwood? I still have the first three episodes sitting in my DVR.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
Sarah Jane will be shown here?!!!!
Will the show be uncut or will SciFi damage the eps with extra commercials?
Now all I have to do is find some kind soul to record the eps for me.
Sarah Jane Smith was my *favorite* companion!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:47:58
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 16:47:58
This reminds me - if anyone wants to check out Jericho - Sci-Fi is going to start running it tonight at 7pm.
I totally recomend it - it's a great show.
I totally recomend it - it's a great show.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 16:48:07
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 16:48:07
Good morning, bloggers!!
I hope that everyone is well.
As for the Clintons, the behavior that Raine discussed gives me the impression that there is a sense of entitlement in the campaign. I find this troubling, because a candidate running for president should represent the interests of the people. I do not like a political campaign or an administration trying to intimidate the media - even if some media personalities have shown poor judgement and made some highly questionable comments.
Also, is it me, or do these and a few other moves (ahem, firing the campaign manager) seem like desperation tactics.
By the way, the early edition of the Unfiltered News Network Daily Headlines are up. You might be interested in this one: Clinton seeks to cast herself as underdog vs. Obama. Somehow, Clinton calling someone else an establishment candidate seems odd when she touts her record of experience.
I hope that everyone is well.
As for the Clintons, the behavior that Raine discussed gives me the impression that there is a sense of entitlement in the campaign. I find this troubling, because a candidate running for president should represent the interests of the people. I do not like a political campaign or an administration trying to intimidate the media - even if some media personalities have shown poor judgement and made some highly questionable comments.
Also, is it me, or do these and a few other moves (ahem, firing the campaign manager) seem like desperation tactics.
By the way, the early edition of the Unfiltered News Network Daily Headlines are up. You might be interested in this one: Clinton seeks to cast herself as underdog vs. Obama. Somehow, Clinton calling someone else an establishment candidate seems odd when she touts her record of experience.
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 16:49:17
Why? All they need to show is the last 35 seconds.
TriSec on 02/11/2008 16:49:17
Quote by livingonli: It looks like the NFL Network is running a 90-minute replay of the Super Bowl all day today.
Why? All they need to show is the last 35 seconds.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 16:51:48
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 16:51:48
Hi Will
How's Chicago treating you?
Please tell the weather to stop coming into Pittsburgh. I need no reminders of the nasty coldness that I just left.
How's Chicago treating you?
Please tell the weather to stop coming into Pittsburgh. I need no reminders of the nasty coldness that I just left.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 16:51:57
velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 16:51:57
Good morning: Part 2 - Return to Blog!!
A few hours of sleep and I'm good to go.............. grocery shopping and cleaning out my ARC disaster relief truck to be ready for a new disaster.
Raine, great subject for the blog. I'm not awake enough to know exactly how I feel, but I do know this: "pimped out" is, imo, as hateful as n*igger or wh*re - having nothing to do with race necessarily. If you'll remember my blog yesterday, I had "pimps" top the list of useless people that take up space on our planet. How this word became popular in our vernacular is beyond me!!
So, I think that David deserves to be reprimanded, though not fired. (To be fair, I thought that Imus should not have been fired, just suspended and fined).
I suppose there is something to the fact that Hillary is a mother and protective of her child, and so looks past the sexist comments made about her, but puts on the armor for her daughter. I don't like that, but I understand it.
A few hours of sleep and I'm good to go.............. grocery shopping and cleaning out my ARC disaster relief truck to be ready for a new disaster.
Raine, great subject for the blog. I'm not awake enough to know exactly how I feel, but I do know this: "pimped out" is, imo, as hateful as n*igger or wh*re - having nothing to do with race necessarily. If you'll remember my blog yesterday, I had "pimps" top the list of useless people that take up space on our planet. How this word became popular in our vernacular is beyond me!!
So, I think that David deserves to be reprimanded, though not fired. (To be fair, I thought that Imus should not have been fired, just suspended and fined).
I suppose there is something to the fact that Hillary is a mother and protective of her child, and so looks past the sexist comments made about her, but puts on the armor for her daughter. I don't like that, but I understand it.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:54:28
No word yet on how they are scheduling it. Doctor Who is already somewhat trimmed for commercials except for the Christmas Episode which runs in a 90-minute slot. "Last of the Time Lords" at the end of Season Three was originally 51-minutes in the UK so they cut it to 44 minutes to fit it into a 60-minute slot with commercials.
I already know BBC Kids in Canada has been running The Sarah Jane Adventures with two episodeds in a 90-minute block. It has commercials but is not edited.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:54:28
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by livingonli: Mala, have you been watching Season Two of Torchwood? I still have the first three episodes sitting in my DVR.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
Sarah Jane will be shown here?!!!!
Will the show be uncut or will SciFi damage the eps with extra commercials?
Now all I have to do is find some kind soul to record the eps for me.
Sarah Jane Smith was my *favorite* companion!
No word yet on how they are scheduling it. Doctor Who is already somewhat trimmed for commercials except for the Christmas Episode which runs in a 90-minute slot. "Last of the Time Lords" at the end of Season Three was originally 51-minutes in the UK so they cut it to 44 minutes to fit it into a 60-minute slot with commercials.
I already know BBC Kids in Canada has been running The Sarah Jane Adventures with two episodeds in a 90-minute block. It has commercials but is not edited.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 16:56:12
velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 16:56:12
I voted on the poll: no preference, though on second thought, later is better than earlier.
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 16:56:13
What experience does she have exactly? She has less legislative experience than Obama.
If she wants to tout the time she spent in the White House as the 1st Lady, then she needs to apologize to the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that said she had too much influence in the White House when Bill was president.
BobR on 02/11/2008 16:56:13
Quote by will in chicago: Good morning, bloggers!!
I hope that everyone is well.
As for the Clintons, the behavior that Raine discussed gives me the impression that there is a sense of entitlement in the campaign. I find this troubling, because a candidate running for president should represent the interests of the people. I do not like a political campaign or an administration trying to intimidate the media - even if some media personalities have shown poor judgement and made some highly questionable comments.
Also, is it me, or do these and a few other moves (ahem, firing the campaign manager) seem like desperation tactics.
By the way, the early edition of the Unfiltered News Network Daily Headlines are up. You might be interested in this one: Clinton seeks to cast herself as underdog vs. Obama. Somehow, Clinton calling someone else an establishment candidate seems odd when she touts her record of experience.
What experience does she have exactly? She has less legislative experience than Obama.
If she wants to tout the time she spent in the White House as the 1st Lady, then she needs to apologize to the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that said she had too much influence in the White House when Bill was president.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:57:13
livingonli on 02/11/2008 16:57:13
"Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat!"
"But that trick never worked."
"This time for sure! Presto! Well, I'm getting close."
"But that trick never worked."
"This time for sure! Presto! Well, I'm getting close."
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 16:58:27
"HEY! - who put this rabbit shit in my hat??"
BobR on 02/11/2008 16:58:27
Quote by livingonli: "Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat!"
"But that trick never worked."
"This time for sure! Presto! Well, I'm getting close."
"HEY! - who put this rabbit shit in my hat??"
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 16:58:43
Raine on 02/11/2008 16:58:43
:kickcan: the show is already over... :(
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 17:00:56
Time flies when you're having fun.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 17:00:56
Quote by Raine:the show is already over... :(
Time flies when you're having fun.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 17:04:20
That is part of my concern as well. If Hillary Clinton wants to tout her time as a first lady in Arkansas and Washington as well as being an attorney, then Obama can rightly claim his experience as an activist. Hillary Clinton is trying to claim she was a major factor in her husband's administration when in the past she denied such a role.
I am puzzled by much going on in the Clinton campaign. To me, it seems as if there is a sense of confusion, of bewilderment that not all is going as planned. So, I am troubled by a response to the press that seems hostile and as high handed as the Bush administration. (I don't think any Democratic candidate should go to a debate on the Fox Channel as their ideological bias is clear.)
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 17:04:20
Quote by BobR:Quote by will in chicago: Good morning, bloggers!!
I hope that everyone is well.
As for the Clintons, the behavior that Raine discussed gives me the impression that there is a sense of entitlement in the campaign. I find this troubling, because a candidate running for president should represent the interests of the people. I do not like a political campaign or an administration trying to intimidate the media - even if some media personalities have shown poor judgement and made some highly questionable comments.
Also, is it me, or do these and a few other moves (ahem, firing the campaign manager) seem like desperation tactics.
By the way, the early edition of the Unfiltered News Network Daily Headlines are up. You might be interested in this one: Clinton seeks to cast herself as underdog vs. Obama. Somehow, Clinton calling someone else an establishment candidate seems odd when she touts her record of experience.
What experience does she have exactly? She has less legislative experience than Obama.
If she wants to tout the time she spent in the White House as the 1st Lady, then she needs to apologize to the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that said she had too much influence in the White House when Bill was president.
That is part of my concern as well. If Hillary Clinton wants to tout her time as a first lady in Arkansas and Washington as well as being an attorney, then Obama can rightly claim his experience as an activist. Hillary Clinton is trying to claim she was a major factor in her husband's administration when in the past she denied such a role.
I am puzzled by much going on in the Clinton campaign. To me, it seems as if there is a sense of confusion, of bewilderment that not all is going as planned. So, I am troubled by a response to the press that seems hostile and as high handed as the Bush administration. (I don't think any Democratic candidate should go to a debate on the Fox Channel as their ideological bias is clear.)
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 17:10:09
livingonli on 02/11/2008 17:10:09
Sounds like Thom lost his caller.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 17:11:22
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 17:11:22
More like the Caller lost Thom
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 17:27:58
Raine on 02/11/2008 17:27:58
I agree with you will. As I stated, something isn't right with the campaign. I read yesterday that one of the reasons that was given to press regarding Patti Davis Doyle's resignation was that she only planned to be there until february 5th.
I have heard a lot of other scurruluos things as well, such as a lack of leadership. But, this was a major story.
I must say that the more this stuff goes on, the more I really dislike Mark Penn.
I have heard a lot of other scurruluos things as well, such as a lack of leadership. But, this was a major story.
I must say that the more this stuff goes on, the more I really dislike Mark Penn.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 17:34:57
Well damn.... If I'd know that, I would have been after my Canadian friends to help me out. Canada is always kinder to programs than the US.
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 17:34:57
Quote by livingonli:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by livingonli: Mala, have you been watching Season Two of Torchwood? I still have the first three episodes sitting in my DVR.
BTW, I have heard that Sci-Fi will be running Season Four of Doctor Who beginning in April shortly after the BBC airings. They are also supposed to be running the Sarah Jane Adventures beginning in April as well.
Sarah Jane will be shown here?!!!!
Will the show be uncut or will SciFi damage the eps with extra commercials?
Now all I have to do is find some kind soul to record the eps for me.
Sarah Jane Smith was my *favorite* companion!
No word yet on how they are scheduling it. Doctor Who is already somewhat trimmed for commercials except for the Christmas Episode which runs in a 90-minute slot. "Last of the Time Lords" at the end of Season Three was originally 51-minutes in the UK so they cut it to 44 minutes to fit it into a 60-minute slot with commercials.
I already know BBC Kids in Canada has been running The Sarah Jane Adventures with two episodeds in a 90-minute block. It has commercials but is not edited.
Well damn.... If I'd know that, I would have been after my Canadian friends to help me out. Canada is always kinder to programs than the US.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 17:37:09
Raine on 02/11/2008 17:37:09
Heading out for a little while... see y'all later!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 17:37:56
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 17:37:56
Nader again? Sorry, I can only take him seriously if he actually spends the non-election years building a political party and movement. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, but he seems to be unskilled in trying to develop a viable political movement.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 18:21:08
livingonli on 02/11/2008 18:21:08
Who listened to that last segment on Thom? 
Comment by wickedpam on 02/11/2008 18:24:12
The one about the business that can use deadly force in case of a national emergency? Yeah that's scary.
wickedpam on 02/11/2008 18:24:12
Quote by livingonli: Who listened to that last segment on Thom?
The one about the business that can use deadly force in case of a national emergency? Yeah that's scary.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 18:30:10
After all these years, he should have gotten that message, duncha think?
Raine on 02/11/2008 18:30:10
Quote by will in chicago: Nader again? Sorry, I can only take him seriously if he actually spends the non-election years building a political party and movement. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, but he seems to be unskilled in trying to develop a viable political movement.
After all these years, he should have gotten that message, duncha think?
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 18:32:31
OH dear... :worry: I missed that. Under what statute is that possible? Do businesses now have the right to form a miltia?
Raine on 02/11/2008 18:32:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli: Who listened to that last segment on Thom?
The one about the business that can use deadly force in case of a national emergency? Yeah that's scary.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 18:33:05
This picture keeps coming to mind:
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 18:33:05
Quote by Raine:Quote by will in chicago: Nader again? Sorry, I can only take him seriously if he actually spends the non-election years building a political party and movement. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, but he seems to be unskilled in trying to develop a viable political movement.
After all these years, he should have gotten that message, duncha think?
This picture keeps coming to mind:
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 18:38:07
Here is the story. FBI deputizes business in case of emergency. Can you smell the fascism here?
livingonli on 02/11/2008 18:38:07
Quote by Raine:OH dear... :worry: I missed that. Under what statute is that possible? Do businesses now have the right to form a miltia?Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli: Who listened to that last segment on Thom?
The one about the business that can use deadly force in case of a national emergency? Yeah that's scary.
Here is the story. FBI deputizes business in case of emergency. Can you smell the fascism here?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 18:47:01
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 18:47:01
To me, the way to make a political movement is to be constantly active in it - including in non-election years. So, I think that it is up to us to either transform the Democratic Party by pushing to make it more progressive or start a third party. (I am skeptical about third parties, as the last time one became a national party that won the presidency was in 1860. That was the Republican party.)
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 18:49:58
Yeah, but because Ross Perot created a short-lived viable third party, there was a *real* race in 1992. 'tis a pity more third parties aren't as strong right out of the gate.
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 18:49:58
Quote by will in chicago: To me, the way to make a political movement is to be constantly active in it - including in non-election years. So, I think that it is up to us to either transform the Democratic Party by pushing to make it more progressive or start a third party. (I am skeptical about third parties, as the last time one became a national party that won the presidency was in 1860. That was the Republican party.)
Yeah, but because Ross Perot created a short-lived viable third party, there was a *real* race in 1992. 'tis a pity more third parties aren't as strong right out of the gate.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 18:55:13
Perot's party was a rare exception, and I think it might have become an established party if he would have tried to support it and give it some depth on a national level. The same could happen with the Green Party, but it will require building a party infrastructure.
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 18:55:13
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by will in chicago: To me, the way to make a political movement is to be constantly active in it - including in non-election years. So, I think that it is up to us to either transform the Democratic Party by pushing to make it more progressive or start a third party. (I am skeptical about third parties, as the last time one became a national party that won the presidency was in 1860. That was the Republican party.)
Yeah, but because Ross Perot created a short-lived viable third party, there was a *real* race in 1992. 'tis a pity more third parties aren't as strong right out of the gate.
Perot's party was a rare exception, and I think it might have become an established party if he would have tried to support it and give it some depth on a national level. The same could happen with the Green Party, but it will require building a party infrastructure.
Comment by BobR on 02/11/2008 19:21:13
BobR on 02/11/2008 19:21:13
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 19:38:12
I posted a similar story below. We were originating both the Buffalo Sabres and Florida Panthers telecasts from my work facility. When I was plotting the Sabres tape for today's replay everyone was asking me to play back the part when that happened.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 19:38:12
Quote by BobR: Florida Panther's player gets carotid artery severed during game :o
I posted a similar story below. We were originating both the Buffalo Sabres and Florida Panthers telecasts from my work facility. When I was plotting the Sabres tape for today's replay everyone was asking me to play back the part when that happened.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 19:42:06
:bump: Liv had video, that is gruesome stuff to work thru.
Raine on 02/11/2008 19:42:06
Quote by Raine:EEP! :puke:
Comment by shelaghc on 02/11/2008 19:50:54
shelaghc on 02/11/2008 19:50:54
Looks the April 26th is the date of choice.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 19:59:14
livingonli on 02/11/2008 19:59:14
Did everyone vote? I guess Mondo will chip in when he gets home.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 20:06:41
livingonli on 02/11/2008 20:06:41
Time to stroll off to the salt mine.
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 20:12:14
TriSec on 02/11/2008 20:12:14
BC and Harvard this evening for the coveted silver-plated legume cooking utensil!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 20:30:02
Raine on 02/11/2008 20:30:02
And yet, none of these people were Suspended: (from Raw Story
CNN HeadlineNews' host Glenn Beck labeled anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan a "pretty big prostitute" and "tragedy pimp" during his conservative radio show, for which he was declared Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World". Beck then accused Sheehan of "pimping out her own son's death". Those instances were all noted by watchdog Media Matters, which also first pointed out Schuster's comments.
Fox News apparently doesn't have a problem with "pimp" being used as a political attack on its own network, either. Although you wouldn't know that from Monday morning's segment.
Conservative host Sean Hannity agreed with a guest's assessment that Al Gore was "pimping" the environment for political gain, and he featured as a guest a pastor who said Democrats -- but not Republicans, of course -- "pimp" the church to snag votes. Of course, Hannity, too, couldn't resist a dig at MSNBC after Schuster's comments last week, calling them despicable ... inappropriate, out of touch, out of line."
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 20:49:11
Raine on 02/11/2008 20:49:11
I am writing a letter to John Lewis to remind him that even tho he endorsed Hillary, his district went LARGELY to Barack Obama. I am going to ask him to remember that he represents US in the 5th Congressional District In Georgia and please use his superdelagate accordingly.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 21:04:59
Raine on 02/11/2008 21:04:59
I think we can start calling him Zel LIEberman.
Unlike getting pregnant, Republicanism CAN be caught by kissing it seems.
Unlike getting pregnant, Republicanism CAN be caught by kissing it seems.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 21:15:56
Raine on 02/11/2008 21:15:56
DID I JUST hear RANDI said she would STAY AT HOME AND NOT VOTE????
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 21:16:31
livingonli on 02/11/2008 21:16:31
Too bad there's no penicillin strong enough to kill that disease.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 21:49:33
Raine on 02/11/2008 21:49:33
RAndi is yelling a t a decent caller again.
Guh. I really don't like what she is saying about Michigan and Florida democrats. *harumph*
Guh. I really don't like what she is saying about Michigan and Florida democrats. *harumph*
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 22:26:57
Raine on 02/11/2008 22:26:57
Randi is weighing on on Schuster-gate.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 22:44:28
Raine on 02/11/2008 22:44:28
I see that Randi is feeling quite the same way I do about this entire issue.
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 22:47:12
:clap: GO randi!!!
Raine on 02/11/2008 22:47:12
if you are going to say you are a mother first, then don't send your daughter out to the public arena.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 22:48:39
Will in Chicago on 02/11/2008 22:48:39
I am going to have to miss Stephanie at 10 AM Eastern.
My friend Robin will be performing on Oprah, as she is on David Cassidy's new album.
My friend Robin will be performing on Oprah, as she is on David Cassidy's new album.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 22:54:01
velveeta jones on 02/11/2008 22:54:01
Velveeta is attempting to come back from the dead! Very sleeeepppppyyyy.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 23:08:10
Hasn't Ed Schultz done his fair share of insulting women and calling them whores?
livingonli on 02/11/2008 23:08:10
Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is attempting to come back from the dead! Very sleeeepppppyyyy.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
Hasn't Ed Schultz done his fair share of insulting women and calling them whores?
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 23:26:05
WOW!
Raine on 02/11/2008 23:26:05
Quote by will in chicago: I am going to have to miss Stephanie at 10 AM Eastern.
My friend Robin will be performing on Oprah, as she is on David Cassidy's new album.
WOW!
Comment by Raine on 02/11/2008 23:27:04
Raine on 02/11/2008 23:27:04
Will we may have to tell Momma about this.
Comment by livingonli on 02/11/2008 23:29:47
In my area, it's on twice airing at 4 PM ET on WABC-7 and at 7 PM on WLNY-55 (cable 10).
I think Chicago is the only market that airs Oprah live in the AM.
livingonli on 02/11/2008 23:29:47
Quote by will in chicago: I am going to have to miss Stephanie at 10 AM Eastern.
My friend Robin will be performing on Oprah, as she is on David Cassidy's new album.
In my area, it's on twice airing at 4 PM ET on WABC-7 and at 7 PM on WLNY-55 (cable 10).
I think Chicago is the only market that airs Oprah live in the AM.
Comment by 
HoneyBearKelly on 02/11/2008 23:56:44
HoneyBearKelly on 02/11/2008 23:56:44
The Boy's Club at MSNBC needs to cool it's jets.
Starting with Tweety.
I'm curious to find out what the reaction would have been if HRC would have said nothing?
It's just another case of CDS. (Clinton Derangement Syndrome.)
Starting with Tweety.
I'm curious to find out what the reaction would have been if HRC would have said nothing?
It's just another case of CDS. (Clinton Derangement Syndrome.)
Comment by TriSec on 02/11/2008 23:56:55
TriSec on 02/11/2008 23:56:55
A gift this evening for a certain lurker with a previous request:
G thinks he can play
syncopation and blue notes
He only blows goats.
G thinks he can play
syncopation and blue notes
He only blows goats.
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 00:13:52
I hope that I did not, in my blog post, justify the use of the word Pimp.
Raine on 02/12/2008 00:13:52
Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is attempting to come back from the dead! Very sleeeepppppyyyy.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 00:23:29
Guh. Shultz should have been suspened for his words during that time. Fired? No. but a punishment is fine. Regarding Schuster, MSNBC did the right thing. I do not want to see him fired, the same way I did not want to see Imus fired.
Once again I get the feeling that Ed is saying (without actually listening to his show, but relying on our cub reporters) that it is alright to use these words as common vernacular when discussing women. It isn't.
I ALMOST made my post about the MEDIA and how they like to throw these terms around. Do I want them all fired? NO. I want them to know that woman are equals. I want them to stop talking about women with these terms.
My beef is how the Clinton CAMPAIGN interjected itself into the issue. and, the key word is HOW.
(I smell an upcoming blog post)
Raine on 02/12/2008 00:23:29
Quote by livingonli:Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is attempting to come back from the dead! Very sleeeepppppyyyy.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
Hasn't Ed Schultz done his fair share of insulting women and calling them whores?
Guh. Shultz should have been suspened for his words during that time. Fired? No. but a punishment is fine. Regarding Schuster, MSNBC did the right thing. I do not want to see him fired, the same way I did not want to see Imus fired.
Once again I get the feeling that Ed is saying (without actually listening to his show, but relying on our cub reporters) that it is alright to use these words as common vernacular when discussing women. It isn't.
I ALMOST made my post about the MEDIA and how they like to throw these terms around. Do I want them all fired? NO. I want them to know that woman are equals. I want them to stop talking about women with these terms.
My beef is how the Clinton CAMPAIGN interjected itself into the issue. and, the key word is HOW.
(I smell an upcoming blog post)
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 00:32:32
:hug:
Hello!!!
If I may answer that, becuase I know that we may be on differing sides of this...
I think that MSNBC suspended him before all of this.
I still stand on my belief that MSNBC was right in suspending him. The interjection of the campaign is where I am having serious questions about.
It is a very good and fair question to ask regarding where would the Clinton campaign stand if they said nothing. I guess, to be as honest as I could be, I wish we could have heard from Chelsea. OR... maybe... a condemnation from the campaign as opposed to a threat about pulling out of the debates, or from ANYTHING regarding MSNBC.
Just my thoughts.
(it is really nice to see you HBK)
Raine on 02/12/2008 00:32:32
Quote by HoneyBearKelly: The Boy's Club at MSNBC needs to cool it's jets.
Starting with Tweety.
I'm curious to find out what the reaction would have been if HRC would have said nothing?
It's just another case of CDS. (Clinton Derangement Syndrome.)
:hug:
Hello!!!
If I may answer that, becuase I know that we may be on differing sides of this...
I think that MSNBC suspended him before all of this.
I still stand on my belief that MSNBC was right in suspending him. The interjection of the campaign is where I am having serious questions about.
It is a very good and fair question to ask regarding where would the Clinton campaign stand if they said nothing. I guess, to be as honest as I could be, I wish we could have heard from Chelsea. OR... maybe... a condemnation from the campaign as opposed to a threat about pulling out of the debates, or from ANYTHING regarding MSNBC.
Just my thoughts.
(it is really nice to see you HBK)
Comment by livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:04:19
livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:04:19
Welcome to the blog, HBK. :)
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/12/2008 01:11:13
I have known Robin longer, so I am sure it will be fine. It will be fine if I can figure a way to have Momma's dogs watch David Cassidy till she gets home.
Will in Chicago on 02/12/2008 01:11:13
Quote by Raine: Will we may have to tell Momma about this.
I have known Robin longer, so I am sure it will be fine. It will be fine if I can figure a way to have Momma's dogs watch David Cassidy till she gets home.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/12/2008 01:31:48
HaH!! Done and DONE!! All cleared up................
velveeta jones on 02/12/2008 01:31:48
Quote by Raine:I hope that I did not, in my blog post, justify the use of the word Pimp.Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is attempting to come back from the dead! Very sleeeepppppyyyy.
Heard Ed Shultz while in my car. What an asshat. Talked for one half hour about the word "pimp" justifying it usage. What a dolt.
IMO, there is no one as low and disgusting as a pimp.
Except maybe now........... Ed Shultz.
HaH!! Done and DONE!! All cleared up................
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:32:21
Ahhh salve for my damaged psyche. That and 200 units of Davis, stat!
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:32:21
Quote by TriSec: A gift this evening for a certain lurker with a previous request:
G thinks he can play
syncopation and blue notes
He only blows goats.
Ahhh salve for my damaged psyche. That and 200 units of Davis, stat!
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:34:19
About???
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:34:19
Quote by livingonli: Did everyone vote? I guess Mondo will chip in when he gets home.
About???
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:38:37
-scans- Heed! Pants! Now!
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:38:37
Quote by Raine:I love SO I married an Axe Murderer!Quote by wickedpam: Don't mess with my fave movie!
-scans- Heed! Pants! Now!
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:41:15
Roy Scheider goes in the coffin. Coffin goes in the ground. We need a bigger coffin. :)
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:41:15
Quote by wickedpam: Holy crap! Chief Broadie died! I named my 24 hour dog after him
Roy Scheider goes in the coffin. Coffin goes in the ground. We need a bigger coffin. :)
Comment by livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:43:26
Le Blog Poll.
livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:43:26
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli: Did everyone vote? I guess Mondo will chip in when he gets home.
About???
Le Blog Poll.
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 01:45:09
The 4F poll... go to the left of the blog page. scroll untll you see something relevant. :hug:
Raine on 02/12/2008 01:45:09
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli: Did everyone vote? I guess Mondo will chip in when he gets home.
About???
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:46:17
Oh, that. Done voted already. See 4/26/08
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 01:46:17
Quote by Raine:The 4F poll... go to the left of the blog page. scroll untll you see something relevant. :hug:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli: Did everyone vote? I guess Mondo will chip in when he gets home.
About???
Oh, that. Done voted already. See 4/26/08
Comment by TriSec on 02/12/2008 01:49:58
TriSec on 02/12/2008 01:49:58
Good evening! Harvard up 2-1 on BC for the coveted, silver-plated legume cooking utensil!
[see below]
[see below]
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 01:55:25
IT is. So we NOW gotta find a hotel.
I will heretofore Put my recommendation in...
Sheraton Arlington.
:peace:
Raine on 02/12/2008 01:55:25
Quote by shelaghc: Looks the April 26th is the date of choice.
I will heretofore Put my recommendation in...
Sheraton Arlington.
:peace:
Comment by livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:56:38
livingonli on 02/12/2008 01:56:38
Does NESN show it in HD?
Comment by Raine on 02/12/2008 02:04:50
Raine on 02/12/2008 02:04:50
Will, all I care about is that YOU get to go to the show.
AND, ok, more important.. your friend, who is now my friend... gets to perform. I love when creative's get a stage!!!
Gives me a lil bit of hope. ;)
AND, ok, more important.. your friend, who is now my friend... gets to perform. I love when creative's get a stage!!!
Gives me a lil bit of hope. ;)
Comment by livingonli on 02/12/2008 02:07:04
Link?
livingonli on 02/12/2008 02:07:04
Quote by Raine:IT is. So we NOW gotta find a hotel.Quote by shelaghc: Looks the April 26th is the date of choice.
I will heretofore Put my recommendation in...
Sheraton Arlington.
:peace:
Link?
Comment by livingonli on 02/12/2008 02:12:02
livingonli on 02/12/2008 02:12:02
From the Sheraton website;
Sheraton National -$119/night (25th-27th)
Sheraton Crystal City- $114/night
Sheraton National -$119/night (25th-27th)
Sheraton Crystal City- $114/night
Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/12/2008 02:32:47
The show was prerecorded, but I will watch it. (No tickets - my friend is only one of the back up singers, but it is a good break for her. She has one of the best voices I know and has been working hard on her own career for years.) So, I will likely check in after the show. (I am asking Robin to send me a link to some of her music.)
Will in Chicago on 02/12/2008 02:32:47
Quote by Raine: Will, all I care about is that YOU get to go to the show.
AND, ok, more important.. your friend, who is now my friend... gets to perform. I love when creative's get a stage!!!
Gives me a lil bit of hope. ;)
The show was prerecorded, but I will watch it. (No tickets - my friend is only one of the back up singers, but it is a good break for her. She has one of the best voices I know and has been working hard on her own career for years.) So, I will likely check in after the show. (I am asking Robin to send me a link to some of her music.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 03:54:27
Mondobubba on 02/12/2008 03:54:27
:rofl: Kima trying to put together furniture from IKEA. :rofl: