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A Tale of Two Cities
Author: Raine    Date: 10/25/2007 12:21:07

When hundreds of thousands of Southern California residents were evacuated from their homes in the wake of this week's devastating fires, memories of Hurricane Katrina couldn't help but surface as scores of evacuees ended up taking refuge in the city's Qualcomm Stadium.

But after two days, what has developed here in Qualcomm could hardly stand in sharper contrast to the spectacle of Katrina, especially the chaos in Louisiana's Superdome.

Qualcomm is clean. It is organized. It is, in many regards, at times even festive, with clowns to entertain children who are wearing dust-particle masks to protect their lungs from the hanging smoke and blowing ash.
Compare and contrast...Qualcomm has about 20,000 evacuess and the Superdome had about 25,000
After five days managing near riots, medical horrors and unspeakable living conditions inside the Superdome, Louisiana National Guard Col. Thomas Beron prepared to hand over the dead to representatives of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Following days of internationally reported murders, rapes and gang violence inside the stadium, the doctor from FEMA — Beron doesn't remember his name — came prepared for a grisly scene: He brought a refrigerated 18-wheeler and three doctors to process bodies.[...]

Just to put this in proportion:
San Diego County Sheriff Bill Kolender says more people have been evacuated because the county's wildfires than were evacuated from New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.

He urged residents to remain patient until they can safely be allowed to return to their homes.
more than Katrina. Stunning how well government can work. Kudos to California.

And finally, in case anyone needs assistance in disaster management, I found this press release, yes, it is real:
Former FEMA Director and Director of Corporate Strategy for Cotton Companies Michael D. Brown Available for Interviews Regarding California Wild Fires

NEW YORK, Oct. 23 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Michael D. Brown, Former FEMA Director and Current Director of Cotton Companies, one of the leading disaster preparedness and restoration organizations in the nation, is available for comment regarding the wild fires that are devastating Southern California.

Currently, the brush fires are affecting hundreds of local businesses and have forced more than 500,000 people out of their homes. Of these 500,000 people, an estimated 10,000 of them have taken shelter at the local NFL stadium, Qualcomm, vaguely reminiscent of circumstances of Hurricane Katrina evacuees two years ago.

"The agency has learned some hard lessons regarding the handling of mass evacuations especially in regard to the bureaucratic red tape that is involved in such a process," said Mr. Brown. "This is a tragic time for many of the people of California, and Cotton Companies is working to ensure that normalcy is restored and that businesses and organizations are back up and running as soon as possible."

Cotton has already deployed a team to San Diego to prepare recovery efforts and has a Community Assessment Team in full force.

Mr. Brown can speak to the turmoil being caused by the California wild fires as well as to some of the new processes in disaster relief efforts that will help to restore California communities. He can offer advice to residents and businesses on proper relief and recovery efforts and provide suggestions for future disaster preparedness.

Since its inception in 1996, Cotton Companies, the nation's leading provider of disaster recovery services, has been coming to the aid of businesses and communities coast to coast with its ability to react, take charge, mobilize and execute on the spot crisis management. Cotton has responded to such high-alert disasters as Hurricane Katrina and the tragedy of 9/11 in New York City.

:rofl: you can't make this stuff up!

Finally, Here Are numbers to help those who could use it in California.

See you inside. Coffee is ready to go!
:peace: and rain.

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Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 12:49:37
Morning, comrades!



Regarding Qualcomm v. Superdome...



I'd like to think that this was a 'lesson learned' in the wake of that fiasco, but I really can't help but think about Bob's comments yesterday. Is it really learning from our mistakes so we won't repeat them, or is it trying to look good in front of the (presumably) affluent So-Cal demographic so they'll remember and pony up $$ when the candidates come knocking?



Poor, black, New Orleaneans rarely make large campaign contributions, but the heart of the So-Cal economy does...



Anyway, I digress. How 'bout them Sox? (gee, was that a bread and circuses moment?)



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:09:20
Good morning!

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 13:11:12
Morning. . .



'Bout to put on a pot of coffee. Working from home today. Ahhhhh......



Had out preview at the theater last night and my character was a big hit.

YAY! Don't applaud. Send money.





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:14:53
I must say that I too think that what we have here is indeed a tale of two cities, one rather more flush with services, the other... well it is indeed a poorer state. But California does have the reverse 9/11 system that they put in place and that seems to have made a world of difference. I certainly don't think that was becuase the feds learned a damn thing about Katrina. I will not blame Louisiana. They begged for help.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 13:20:23
Right Wing World...



au contraire, the President will get in the way.



This is still an active disaster scene with actual fire, still out of control.



The President travels with how many support vehicles, which means roadblocks, re-directed traffic, and airspace restrictions, not to mention similar restricted airspace when AF One arrives and departs.



I'd hate to see the firefighters miss an opportunity to do something because they couldn't fly within 20 miles of where the president happens to be having a photo op...



Damnit, he's so big about clearing brush on his "ranch", why not put a shovel in his hand and put him on the fireline for 3 hours so a *real* firefighter can take a nap?





Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 13:29:21
Chris. You are so literal some point. I think Momma is making the point that "California" is seen by most as the liberal bastion of America! Therefore, Pat Robertson hates ALL of it.



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:30:17
Amen tri sec! Bush doesn't need to tour an active disaster area like this. The LT Governor said that they will be respectful, but bush touring the area does pose a distraction.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 13:30:27
Good morning folks.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 13:37:30
So, when Bush comes to the disaster area, Southern California will have sulfur mixed in with the smoke.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:38:03
As you can see here... Brownie has offered his services to help California. :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:39:15
The president did not accept responsibility. That pig.... Hey bobR... I want a little piggy emoticon!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:41:16
Quote by Raine:
http://www.clipartof.com/images/xsmall/167.gif
One of the little piggies that went to the white house.
Fixity

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 13:44:25
Has anyone e-mailed Momma about the east coast tour with food stops?



At least she is sleeping :zzz: But I don't want her to be Karen Carpenter skinny.



I like my women with a little meat on their bones.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 13:47:19
Just sent to my team as our "Quote of the Day" on our morning email...



You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake.

Jeannette Rankin

US pacifist & politician (1880 - 1973)





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:47:33
:prince: voles vou bla bla bla :prince:

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 13:47:46
The pig emoticon! :clap:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:50:22
I am still so pissed that the president federalized the National Guard. it's the NATIONAL GUARD!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 13:50:29
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:52:26
I am still disturbed that they shot and killed someone they suspected of Arson in CAlifornia. Very disturbed.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 13:53:57
Quote by livingonli: Bush offers to bomb Kurdish rebels in Northern Iraq. Heckuva job there.
you know what is most intersting about that story? America trained those very people. They were our allies during the first Gulf war. we sent them money and arms.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:00:53
Quote by Raine:



you know what is most intersting about that story? America trained those very people.



They were our allies during the Iran-Iraq war [edit- TriSec]. we sent them money and arms.




Sound familiar?



The takeaway being, don't become an ally of the United States. The instant you're no longer useful for our immediate aims, we'll start aiming at you.





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:03:56
Today in the AJC, it is being reported that yesterday (w eek after he decided to sue the Army corp of engineers) the governor is making the state employees cut water use. A dollar short and a few days late I say. This is a over a year since the drought began... It's like washing your hands before you go to the bathroom and telling your mother your hands are clean. We are really in dire straights down here. They issued a request for households to cut water use to 50 gallona a day. Utilities are threatening to increase rates if they don't see water use dropped.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:04:27
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:



you know what is most intersting about that story? America trained those very people.



They were our allies during the Iran-Iraq war [edit- TriSec]. we sent them money and arms.




Sound familiar?



The takeaway being, don't become an ally of the United States. The instant you're no longer useful for our immediate aims, we'll start aiming at you.





Just ask Saddam and Noriega.

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 14:12:55
morning, folks... :coffee:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:13:10
Dr. Strangelove is scarily prophetic.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:14:00
Morning Bob.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:14:08
Good morning bobber... how have you been?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 14:15:05
Morning! :hug:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:16:05
:rofl: 's bit was hilarious!

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 14:17:18
Quote by starling310:

Morning. . .



'Bout to put on a pot of coffee. Working from home today. Ahhhhh......



Had out preview at the theater last night and my character was a big hit.

YAY! Don't applaud. Send money.







Congrats!! :prince:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 14:18:41
Yeah Star!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:18:46
Oh dear. crushed beer cans... where have I heard that before?

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:21:03
Momma needs bigger in order to crush beer cans between them.

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 14:21:33
Crushing beer cans with her breasts? Could they be talking about "Blondie", the middle-aged black stripper with blonde hair at The Clairmont, the Seediest Strip Bar in Atlanta? That's her well-known trick.



It's even in Wiki!!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:23:07
I am very happy for you starling... I won't applaud, but instead, as requested: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:23:59
Ya know, I'm amazed at the number of problems that can be corrected with a powerful free tape...



Scotch?

Duct?

Electrical?



C'mon, tell us!





Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:24:56
Quote by livingonli:

Momma needs bigger in order to crush beer cans between them.




Maybe she could start with dixie cups and move up after she gets some meat back on that frame...





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:26:54
I just love larry craig. I that man! He makes me want to do a little soft shoe shuffle dance.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 14:27:03
I have the service guy here cleaning the Pellet Stove and Momma is talking about hanging things from her nipples.





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:28:16
Quote by TriSec: Ya know, I'm amazed at the number of problems that can be corrected with a powerful free tape... Scotch? Duct? Electrical? C'mon, tell us!
Duct tape will save the world I tell you! I am planning on reupholstering my computer chair in the next few weeks with it.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:28:23
"Browning the Vermicelli" sounds like something Larry Craig might do.



If he was gay and didn't love his wife, I mean.







Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 14:29:08
Quote by TriSec:

"Browning the Vermicelli" sounds like something Larry Craig might do.



If he was gay and didn't love his wife, I mean.







:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:29:31
Quote by starling310: I have the service guy here cleaning the Pellet Stove and Momma is talking about hanging things from her nipples.
We are all grown up and still, our momma's embarass us.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:30:51
Heya tri, what ever happened to your friend from work who used to blog occasionally?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:37:13
In July, Rudy swore he would never back the BoSox.
Maybe the Devil made him do it. (P) Presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani declared himself a Red Sox fan on Tuesday, but as recently as last summer he vowed never to trade his Yankee soul to the Sox - even for the White House.(P) Last July, The Providence Journal asked the former mayor this fateful question: If the Devil said you can be President if you become a Red Sox fan, would you do it?(P) "I'm a Yankee fan," Giuliani replied then. "I always believe it's a sign of my being straight with people, about not wanting to fool them, that I was one of the first mayors to be willing to say I was a Yankee fan."(P) He went on to say he had "great respect" for true Red Sox fans, but as for becoming a Red Sox cheerleader in a Devil's bargain, "Probably that's a deal I could not make," he said.


Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:38:10
HEya Rudy... have you been shopping at the same shoe sote that Mitt has... you know the one that sells the Flip flops???

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:38:39
Uh oh... We are not good adults, according to the caller.

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 14:38:42
Miss Prude on line 1!! :yadda:

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:38:59
Hey lady, don't like the show? Turn off the radio!





Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 14:38:59
I don't get it - if you don't freaking like a show why would you call into that show and complain that you don't like it. Just change the station.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:39:11
I feel so damaged.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:40:14
Quote by Raine:

Heya tri, what ever happened to your friend from work who used to blog occasionally?







Oh, he's no longer with us here, and I've lost contact with him. I emailed him when we went live, but never heard back.





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:40:25
Connie...the caller who was tighter than a corset wrapped in duct tape.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:40:50
Quote by BobR:

Miss Prude on line 1!! :yadda:


That caller's rod up its butt must have a rod up its butt.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:41:09
Who are these retards? do they call in to Bill and Hannity and whine about their shows?





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:41:50
I love Mildred. I miss Mildred.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:43:37
So Momma and the mooks have become the "almost" hit of the nursing homes.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:49:30
She is a lutheran? uh oh... I am a lutheran.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:50:04
Lutherans are NOT stick up the buttsters!!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:51:03
No, Connie doesn't need a little silly... she needs a little laid. Yes, I said it.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 14:51:14
Sheesh....why does the pellet stove guy insist on saying things like "I am surprised some guy hasn't snapped you up yet. You're a catch!"



Do guys not get that women don't want to have that talk with someone as old as their Dad, when they are home alone.......oh, and their GAY! Oh, and that's KIND OF PERSONAL AND NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!



:star: ling apologizes for being hyper sensitive. She is sure that the Stove Guy was just trying to be nice.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 14:51:36
Quote by Raine:

Lutherans are NOT stick up the buttsters!!




That's the Southern Baptists. I would have side the Pentecostals but atleast the Holy Rollers are interesting enough to handle snakes.



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 14:54:02
HEY! I just posted this story.

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:55:21
Oh, come on. This following the Sox thing is much ado about nothing. Rudy said it himself, I'm an AL fan; I want the AL to win the series...





Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 14:57:20
Hey Raine, hit me with the magic Mormon undies photo again, willya?



That's the most disturbing thing about Mormonism, IMHO.





Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 14:58:16
I remember that South Park episode with the mormon family where they ripped on all the Mormon beliefs.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 14:58:18
I think Mormon's believe that Jesus appeared to Brimingham Young and told him that Utah was the promised land, or something like that.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:01:03
The sun is shining again here in the Atl.. I love it, but I hate it as well.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 15:02:39
raining here, the lake I cross on the way to and from work was up from creek to pond level.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:02:46
Quote by TriSec: Hey Raine, hit me with the magic Mormon undies photo again, willya? That's the most disturbing thing about Mormonism, IMHO.
Gonna do you one better...
http://www.crystalair.com/stories/200705/200705017b.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:05:06
Utah was not the promised land... they were driven out of everyplace else until they got there. Mormonism has been feared by an awful lot of people in the past becuase the idea is to procreate enogh to take over ... Mala, you shoud read the book called *Under the Banner of HEaven* it is amazing and frightening.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 15:06:57
I shall put that on my reading list :D

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:07:36
I see london I see france... I see morman underpants. Sorry but mormonism is a really freaky religion.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:09:18
In mormanisn, people can claim to be prophets... Mormans only let african americans become part of the church in 1971. Before that they believed that they were evil.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:11:06
Get ready for a freaky youtube video...

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 15:11:14
I grew up in Palmyra, NY where the Mormon religion originated. How unlikely is that?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:17:08
Found it! Fireproof undergarments!


Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 15:17:50
My wife's cousin lives in Belmont near the Temple (which Mitt was instrumental in having built here when he was governor, BTW).



You know, that's not even open to the public; only loyal Romulans can walk down that corridor.



Funny, I could walk up to any church, mosque, or synagogue and be welcomed in to look around and talk to people...



Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:27:38
Between David Copperfield and Anna Nicole Smith, the Bahamas is getting a very bad rep.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:29:34
Producerchris using the Carpenters as the intro music.

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 15:29:49
Quote by livingonli:

Between David Copperfield and Anna Nicole Smith, the Bahamas is getting a very bad rep.


I guess it's their turn - all the tax-dodgers already gave the Cayman Islands a bad name...

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:31:33
HEH... Tri, I like that.. ROMulans.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:34:28
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

Between David Copperfield and Anna Nicole Smith, the Bahamas is getting a very bad rep.


I guess it's their turn - all the tax-dodgers already gave the Cayman Islands a bad name...


I'm sorry I can't divulge the details of that customer's secret illegal account.

Oh crap. I shouldn't have said it was secret.

Oh crap! I shouldn't have said it was illegal.



Gosh, it's hot today. :fans self:

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:38:25
Bush's poodle is having buyer's remorse.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:48:01
What happened to ling? is she still apologizing to the pellet man for Momma's nipple remarks?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:48:57
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli: Between David Copperfield and Anna Nicole Smith, the Bahamas is getting a very bad rep.
I guess it's their turn - all the tax-dodgers already gave the Cayman Islands a bad name...
I'm sorry I can't divulge the details of that customer's secret illegal account. Oh crap. I shouldn't have said it was secret. Oh crap! I shouldn't have said it was illegal. Gosh, it's hot today. :fans self:
Do y'all need to have a mint Julip on Tom Delay's porch?

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:52:20
That sounds like a good plan, dear madam.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:52:52
Ahh the CDC story... I posted this on the MB yesterday.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:56:09
SO, I assume David Hunt wil be working for MSNBC soon, ya think?

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 15:57:43
So by not giving a kill order for Bin Laden, does this mean that the Bush Administration may actually be in cahoots with Bin Laden? :foil:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 15:57:49
Military expert, david Hunt is no longer on the O'LIE ly?... :whispery voice: oh my goodness.. I see truth people

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:06:20
Quote by Raine:

What happened to ling? is she still apologizing to the pellet man for Momma's nipple remarks?




No, I am apologizing for being cranky that he said "I'm surprised some guy hasn't snatched you up! You're a catch." Ick...I just wish men who are strangers and in my house, would avoid conversations like that.





Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:07:34
The wildfires are still only about 20% contained. BTW.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:08:42
20% ?



Jeeeeeesus!



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:10:47
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: What happened to ling? is she still apologizing to the pellet man for Momma's nipple remarks?
No, I am apologizing for being cranky that he said "I'm surprised some guy hasn't snatched you up! You're a catch." Ick...I just wish men who are strangers and in my house, would avoid conversations like that.
OMG! no he didn't!!! that is one of those things that really pisses me off. Oh hell, my friend... that dude is fairly lucky that he didn't have me as a client. That is total BS. You do NOT need to deal with that stuff in you OWN [email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected] gah!!!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:12:32
Quote by starling310: 20% ? Jeeeeeesus!
in many places only 10%... the lesson here?don't believe the hype. I am still waiting to see how the bush tour is going... I have been hesitatnt to turn on the TV machine today.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 16:14:13
My TV has been on the Music Choice channels.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:15:11
Quote by Raine:

OMG! no he didn't!!! that is one of those things that really pisses me off. Oh hell, my friend... that dude is fairly lucky that he didn't have me as a client. That is total BS. You do NOT need to deal with that stuff in you OWN [email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected] gah!!!





Mmmmhm.....yes he did..

He did the same thing last year when he came.

Talks about his son the whole time he's there and then makes a comment like that.

I'm sure he thinks he's being nice and complimentary. But, it's awkward. And saying "I'm a big homo!" sometimes presents more of a problem.



Whatever. he's gone now. but, sheesh. it's just not something you say!



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:16:21
Starling you should not be apologizing. (Yeah, me and my feminisitic stubby legs are getting all radical on you) Who the hell is this dude?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:19:22
Next year you tell that man that you haver been snatched up, and thank him for asking. F*cker. I despise men like that. passive agressive BS...

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:21:13
Apolgies to all the Good decent men around these parts.... Sheesh. this stuff really pisses me off.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:22:25
I guess you're right. I always feel bad thinking someone is possibly a little shady.

My girlfriend laughs at me for how naive I can be sometimes. We had a huge debate last weekend; she thinks most people are pretty much capable of doing bad things and I think most people are for the most part good people.



But, yeah....I know it's not cool. I just think this dude is old school and thinks that's somehow a compliment.



:shrug:



Your feministic stubby legs! :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 16:24:47
I don't think I've ever had someone come to do work in my home and talk like that to me. Then again I just let them do what ever work is needed and retreat to the couch with a book - discourages chit-chat and all.



Maybe if you stategicly place a bunch of lesbian knick knacks (are they such a thing? ) around he'll get the message.



I know that didn't come out right but I was trying to think of a way for you to drop large anvil like hints with out saying anything and all. :P

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:29:05
You'd think my haircut would do it, considering that he's probably my dad's age and would be hip to all the old stereotypes.

Last year when he was here I was using power tools and installing my own floor.

Helllllooooo!



Disclaimer: starling is not implying that heterosexual women do not use power tools or install flooring.



But, that in combination with hair cut a la Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Come on!

Maybe I should wear combat boots and flannel next time.

Nah...it's just not my style.





This is kind of like when my creepy neighbor asked me if I lived alone!



Wow! That's .. . . . . . CREEPY!



Make a note gentleman! When you move into a new neighborhood it's best not to ask the petite young lady that lives next to you if she "lives alone!" Make other conversation!



Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 16:33:09
I was thinking more along the lines of Rocco-style female figurines pushing each other on a swing or certain magazines.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:34:12
Quote by wickedpam:

I was thinking more along the lines of Rocco-style female figurines pushing each other on a swing or certain magazines.




A little Lesbian Pulp Fiction? :D



I have a "Rosie the Riveter" lunch box on display in the kitchen. Does that count?



Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 16:34:55
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:36:34
Dorgin and Lott push to block new FCC rules. yes, even a clock is on time twice a day. I posted this ove ron the MB, but we MUST push to block these new FCC rules.
f cross-ownership limits were eased or lifted, it could help some investors such as real estate tycoon Sam Zell, who is leading a proposed leveraged buy-out of media group Tribune Co. Zell wants the FCC to reaffirm waivers that allow Tribune to cross-own daily newspapers and broadcast outlets in some markets.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 16:37:10
Quote by starling310:



A little Lesbian Pulp Fiction? :D



I have a "Rosie the Riveter" lunch box on display in the kitchen. Does that count?







Maybe too subtle.



Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:42:04
You know I think this knucklehead knows our beloved starling is a lesbian and he thinks he can show her the wrong of her ways. Sheesh. Maybe it is old school, I dunno, but it still ain't right. And pff. I am always impressed when I hear that lesbians use power tools!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:46:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by starling310: A little Lesbian Pulp Fiction? :D I have a "Rosie the Riveter" lunch box on display in the kitchen. Does that count?
Maybe too subtle.
Amen, sistah.

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 16:51:29
Quote by starling310:

You'd think my haircut would do it, considering that he's probably my dad's age and would be hip to all the old stereotypes.

Last year when he was here I was using power tools and installing my own floor.

Helllllooooo!



Disclaimer: starling is not implying that heterosexual women do not use power tools or install flooring.



But, that in combination with hair cut a la Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Come on!

Maybe I should wear combat boots and flannel next time.

Nah...it's just not my style.





This is kind of like when my creepy neighbor asked me if I lived alone!



Wow! That's .. . . . . . CREEPY!



Make a note gentleman! When you move into a new neighborhood it's best not to ask the petite young lady that lives next to you if she "lives alone!" Make other conversation!





Thanks for the clarification - I was thinking "mullet" (and the obligatory flannel shirt)... :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 16:55:23
And besides... who is ANYONE to say they are surprised that someone has not been taken off the market (as it were...) by anyone else? Maybe some of us never wante to be taken off the market? maybe some of us never were on the market? maybe some of us wanted to be able to choose to not be single anymore? Maybe some of us would rather be single than settle? Maybe some of us always felt we had a choice? :pirate:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 17:02:03
Hoo haw.... Air Force One just landed in SoCal. HE talks like he is a sports player in the big leagues... "I ahwanna thank the lord for this chance to prove myself and to the fans..."

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:05:46
Quote by BobR:





Thanks for the clarification - I was thinking "mullet" (and the obligatory flannel shirt)... :rofl:




Hockey Hair!


Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:08:12
Quote by Raine:

And besides... who is ANYONE to say they are surprised that someone has not been taken off the market (as it were...) by anyone else?



Maybe some of us never wante to be taken off the market? maybe some of us never were on the market? maybe some of us wanted to be able to choose to not be single anymore? Maybe some of us would rather be single than settle? Maybe some of us always felt we had a choice?





:pirate:




Yeah, it's that old "You're 30 and not married?" mentality. Oh, well "there MUST be something wrong. "

:rolleyes2:



Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:16:10
Thom talking about Bio-Metric data mining.



What about those Missing Children kits? I used to think those were good ideas.

But, now I wonder....he's right about the computer hacking and what not.

:nervous:

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 17:16:35
Quote by starling310:





Disclaimer: starling is not implying that heterosexual women do not use power tools or install flooring.







*chortle*



Mrs. TriSec has been known to assemble small appliances while I'm in the kitchen tending dinner....





Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:21:12
Quote by TriSec:

*chortle*



Mrs. TriSec has been known to assemble small appliances while I'm in the kitchen tending dinner....







: hisses : Excellent!

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 17:21:32
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

And besides... who is ANYONE to say they are surprised that someone has not been taken off the market (as it were...) by anyone else?



Maybe some of us never wante to be taken off the market? maybe some of us never were on the market? maybe some of us wanted to be able to choose to not be single anymore? Maybe some of us would rather be single than settle? Maybe some of us always felt we had a choice?



It's interesting how that never applies to guys. I'm 40 and never married and no one askis why I haven't settled down. I have been known to feel like I'm crazy (but that's for different reasons). :P

:pirate:




Yeah, it's that old "You're 30 and not married?" mentality. Oh, well "there MUST be something wrong. "

:rolleyes2:





Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 17:22:14
Quote by Raine:

Hoo haw.... Air Force One just landed in SoCal. HE talks like he is a sports player in the big leagues... "I ahwanna thank the lord for this chance to prove myself and to the fans..."






Yeah, but has he pulled into Miramar NAS or Camp Pendleton, or will he be out and about among the *actual* population today?



Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 17:22:24
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

And besides... who is ANYONE to say they are surprised that someone has not been taken off the market (as it were...) by anyone else?



Maybe some of us never wante to be taken off the market? maybe some of us never were on the market? maybe some of us wanted to be able to choose to not be single anymore? Maybe some of us would rather be single than settle? Maybe some of us always felt we had a choice?





:pirate:




Yeah, it's that old "You're 30 and not married?" mentality. Oh, well "there MUST be something wrong. "

:rolleyes2:





It's interesting how that never applies to guys. I'm 40 and never married and no one askis why I haven't settled down. I have been known to feel like I'm crazy (but that's for different reasons). :P



Fixxity fix.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 17:23:28
Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:28:09
Quote by livingonli:

It's interesting how that never applies to guys. I'm 40 and never married and no one askis why I haven't settled down. I have been known to feel like I'm crazy (but that's for different reasons). :P



Fixxity fix.




WHAT? Living, you aren't implying that there are double standards that exist for men and women are you?



Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 17:28:43
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

And besides... who is ANYONE to say they are surprised that someone has not been taken off the market (as it were...) by anyone else?



Maybe some of us never wante to be taken off the market? maybe some of us never were on the market? maybe some of us wanted to be able to choose to not be single anymore? Maybe some of us would rather be single than settle? Maybe some of us always felt we had a choice?





:pirate:




Yeah, it's that old "You're 30 and not married?" mentality. Oh, well "there MUST be something wrong. "

:rolleyes2:







Try being 40, not married, no kid(s), and mother lives with you



Feel like I should wear a sign that says "Damaged - Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200"

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 17:31:55
Quote by starling310:

Quote by livingonli:

It's interesting how that never applies to guys. I'm 40 and never married and no one askis why I haven't settled down. I have been known to feel like I'm crazy (but that's for different reasons). :P



Fixxity fix.




WHAT? Living, you aren't implying that there are double standards that exist for men and women are you?



You would have thought they would have gone away by now. The only one that probably went away (in some circles) is the requirement that a woman be a virgin until she's married while in the guy's case that wasn't very important.

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:34:19
Quote by wickedpam:

Try being 40, not married, no kid(s), and mother lives with you



Feel like I should wear a sign that says "Damaged - Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200"








That's the thing though. . . it's like there is some unseen schedule/"to do list" that exists for everyone. Must be "X, Y and Z" by Age "X." Must have "X, Y and Z" by Age "X." It's a bunch of hooey. Everybody is different and things come to people and different points in their life. It doesn't make you damaged in any way!

I see women at work; married with kids by 26 years old.

They are some of the OLDEST 26 year olds I've ever met.

And the way they talk about their kids?

Gee...sounds like you really enjoy being a mom.

( NOT! )

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 17:40:34
Quote by starling310:



I see women at work; married with kids by 26 years old.

They are some of the OLDEST 26 year olds I've ever met.

And the way they talk about their kids?

Gee...sounds like you really enjoy being a mom.

( NOT! )




See? And here we go again. Just because you can have babies "in the normal fashion" doesn't mean you're a fit parent or even ready for such a life-changing event. Yet nobody thinks to question the wisdom of pumping out babies that aren't loved and can't be properly cared for or supported.



There's the slogan of the religious right for ya.... "Just make babies"



:steaming:



Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 17:43:57
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Try being 40, not married, no kid(s), and mother lives with you



Feel like I should wear a sign that says "Damaged - Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200"








That's the thing though. . . it's like there is some unseen schedule/"to do list" that exists for everyone. Must be "X, Y and Z" by Age "X." Must have "X, Y and Z" by Age "X." It's a bunch of hooey. Everybody is different and things come to people and different points in their life. It doesn't make you damaged in any way!

I see women at work; married with kids by 26 years old.

They are some of the OLDEST 26 year olds I've ever met.

And the way they talk about their kids?

Gee...sounds like you really enjoy being a mom.

( NOT! )










Thank's, sometimes I need to be bandied about the head and shoulders to remember that. I love the Fall and Spring but I find myself most depressed about this kinda stuff during them. Oh well, soon I will be throwing myself into the crazy of holiday shopping and decorating to suppress those feelings with one of frustration cause I can't find the perfect gift or can't decorate like Martha.



It's a viscious cycle

Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:45:11
Quote by TriSec:

See? And here we go again. Just because you can have babies "in the normal fashion" doesn't mean you're a fit parent or even ready for such a life-changing event. Yet nobody thinks to question the wisdom of pumping out babies that aren't loved and can't be properly cared for or supported.



There's the slogan of the religious right for ya.... "Just make babies"



:steaming:





So true Tri. I couldn't agree more! Not "nobody" thinks about it! Some people do.



It is like a lot of women are checking things off a list, so they God Forbid aren't deemed "weird" or "strange."

Married? Check.

House? Check.

2.5 kids? Check. Check. 1/2 check.



I salute people who do their thing and don't worry about what society tells them they "should" be doing. I've got friend who is 37 and got married 2 years ago. She and her husband are not going to have kids. They just don't want them. Period. That's the only reason. Not that they hate children or are "bad" people. They just don't want them; they don't feel they could afford them and they like the freedom they have. But, people are constantly asking "when are you having kids?"

:rolleyes2:





Comment by starling310 on 10/25/2007 17:47:56
For the record, I also have admiration for people who desperately want kids and adopt some to love and care for!!!



:clap:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 18:10:42
1/2 check




:rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 19:35:50
Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2007 19:51:01
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/FLYING-HIGH--2.jpg






Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 20:09:07
*** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ***




I am going to be doing some blog updates at 4:30 EDT, so be forewarned that the Blog might be glitchy for a little while after that.



The Management Apologizes In Advance For Any Inconvenience This May Cause...

Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2007 20:18:06
Quote by TriSec:

TRMS: Cooking with Pooh!









^_^ How unfortunatly titled. :D

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 20:23:39
Quote by BobR:
*** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ***
I am going to be doing some blog updates at 4:30 EDT, so be forewarned that the Blog might be glitchy for a little while after that. The Management Apologizes In Advance For Any Inconvenience This May Cause...
:bump: (from a 40 year old woman who loves kids but doesn't really need one of her own. ) I love you guys.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 20:25:27
(heya Bobber... after the update... can we get the piggy and a lil bump thingy? please? I'll make sure it's worth yer while...)

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 20:29:24
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by TriSec:

TRMS: Cooking with Pooh!









^_^ How unfortunatly titled. :D


That's just funny, er, wrong.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 20:30:52
Quote by TriSec: TRMS: Cooking with Pooh!
Pooh bear voice: :oh bother:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 20:32:02
So are we a go for tonites WS game 2 blog?

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 20:53:06
Testing...

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 20:56:21
One more test...

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 20:58:23
I think that's got it!

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 20:59:21
Please let me know about any problems you might have...

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:02:18
Hey bobR we had 141 comments before the update. we have 100 now. Is that critical?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:03:31
Congress is voting on the new schip bill as we speak.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 21:03:45
I noticed we don't have a bump emoticon.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:04:48
This bill takes away a lot more of the states rights the republicans love so much... And yet, somehow the dems had to put it in to get more republican votes.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 21:05:13
The purple banana still only dances occasionally.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 21:06:48
Quote by :/nThis bill takes away a lot more of the states rights the republicans love so much... And yet, somehow the dems had to put it in to get more republican votes.



/n

Just like how the cons in the Supreme Court ignored the state rights of the Florida court and overruled it when they selected Bush to be president.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:12:40
Bobber, I like the new updates to Les Blog, very much!

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 21:29:06
I will be posting an announcement on the board describing the changes...

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:35:39
Testing! :heart:

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:41:23
SCHIP PASSED!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:42:14
And Bush is expected to Veto this as well...

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 21:53:29
Quote by :/nAnd Bush is expected to Veto this as well...




Fucker.

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 21:53:47
Testing again.... Did I mention that schip passed again?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:08:01
So Liv what do you think of the new updates to the blog? HAve you too been testing things?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:09:22
you can see the new fancy shmancy things BobR (blog vreator extraordinare did here: [url]http://fourfreedoms.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=941&st=0&#entry9159

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:10:22
Quote by :/nyou can see the new fancy shmancy things BobR (blog vreator extraordinare did here: [url]http://fourfreedoms.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=941&st=0&#entry9159
/n Testing... why is that */n* there?

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:13:11
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:13:43
/n ^ see that strange thing?

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 22:17:03
Quote by Raine:/nSo Liv what do you think of the new updates to the blog? HAve you too been testing tNohings?
/n

Not yet. I have noticed that there's a glitch with the quote function with that /n and your name doesn't show up.

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 22:20:20
Time to head into the salt mine for the Ranger game.



:grabs pickaxe:

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 22:24:22
Okay, so the quote thing is fixed...

Comment by BobR on 10/25/2007 22:28:16
Quote by BobR:

Okay, so the quote thing is fixed...


Just making sure... ;)

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:36:09
testing testing 123 check!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:36:56
Quote by BobR:
Quote by BobR: Okay, so the quote thing is fixed...
Just making sure... ;)
Looks good! I am no longer /n!

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:39:48
My emoticons work good... I am emotional today...

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:43:09
testing

Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:44:18
testing again... AKA padding? :D


Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:45:34
http://www.sexiestcostumes.com/media/images/site/sexy-halloween-costumes.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/25/2007 22:46:18
Quote by Raine:
http://www.sexiestcostumes.com/media/images/site/sexy-halloween-costumes.jpg
Yup, my buttons are working... I bet yours are too....

Comment by livingonli on 10/25/2007 23:10:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

http://www.sexiestcostumes.com/media/images/site/sexy-halloween-costumes.jpg


Yup, my buttons are working...





I bet yours are too....


She can keel hawl me anytime.