NPR - the new ACORN Author: BobRDate:10/22/2010 12:49:05
Can you imagine the uproar from the Republican community if a news analyst for NPR said he was nervous and worried when he saw Christians at federal buildings (because of Timothy McVeigh) (or abortion clinics for that matter)? The foaming at the mouth outrage, rending of garments and tearing of hair would be biblical (no pun intended). Considering how they went after ACORN, a group dedicated to helping and empowering the helpless and powerless, we can expect the same with NPR. Why? Because they fired a news analyst for saying that seeing Muslims at airports made him nervous and worried.
First of all, ignore the racism of the remarks and focus on the stupidity. Does anyone really think terrorists committed to hijacking a plane are going to show up at the airport in robes and turbans? The hijackers of 9/11 did not. The "shoe bomber" did not. The "underwear bomber" did not.
Secondly - the remark IS racist, which is disappointing coming from someone with his background and stature. He wasn't talking about white or black Muslims in "western" dress. He was talking about Arabs in traditional Arab garb.
It should come as no surprise then, that Juan Williams was hired by none other than FAUX News less than 24 hours after he was let go by NPR. It should also be no surprise that conservative pundits are attacking NPR with the same furor with which they went after ACORN:
Former Arkansas governor and current Fox News personality Mike Huckabee declared Thursday that he is boycotting NPR over its decision.
"While I have often enjoyed appearing on NPR programs and have been treated fairly and objectively, I will no longer accept interview requests from NPR as long as they are going to practice a form of censorship, and since NPR is funded with public funds, it IS a form of censorship," Huckabee said in a statement, who also called for the broadcaster to be defunded.
In a Facebook posting, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin called on Congress to defund the broadcaster. Williams was fired "for merely speaking frankly about the very real threat this country faces from radical Islam," she asserted.
"If NPR is unable to tolerate an honest debate about an issue as important as Islamic terrorism, then it’s time for 'National Public Radio' to become 'National Private Radio.' It’s time for Congress to defund this organization," she added.
Former House speaker Newt Gingrich said Congress "should investigate NPR and consider cutting off its money," and added that Williams' firing was "a total act of censorship."
I have a conservative friend who is also posting this YouTube clip:
For perspective on that clip, Jesse Helms was against any AIDS research, saying the disease resulted from 'unnatural' and 'disgusting' homosexual behavior, and that "There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy". In this way, Jesse Helms was willing to condemn 10% of the American population to death. Nina Totenberg's comment (unlike Juan Williams) was referencing one single person, not an entire ethnic population and/or religion. She also was not a news analyst. From the original link:
NPR CEO Vivian Schiller responded to Williams' claims, arguing that Williams broke company rules for reporters by voicing opinions he would not voice as an NPR reporter.
A critical distinction has been lost in this debate. NPR News analysts have a distinctive role and set of responsibilities. This is a very different role than that of a commentator or columnist. News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts, and that's what’s happened in this situation. As you all well know, we offer views of all kinds on your air every day, but those views are expressed by those we interview — not our reporters and analysts.
One can assume in advance that that sort of subtlety will be lost on the right-wingers.
Finally - amid all the calls for the government to "de-fund" NPR, the reality is that - unlike ACORN - it would make very little difference; they only get about 2 to 3% of their budget from Federal sources:
It would be the small local stations that lose if it is defunded, since they get about 10% of their operating budgets from federal grants. Is this one news commentator really that important that parents are willing to give up Sesame Street for their kids?
I was listening to one of the local stations this morning and while commenting on the news one of the DJ's mentioned that want he believed Williams did was akin to saying " I cross the street when I see black folks walking toward me" ~Kirk McQuinn of the Kirk & Mike show.
I don't know if he deserved firing, I don't know how he was at his job or even what his job was, but at the very least he deserved a severe repremand, which I'm fairly certain would have caused the same furor that his firing caused. Either way it wasn't a win of NPR. If they do nothing thoset that were offended by his statement get mad. If they do something those who agree with him get mad.
Comment byScoopster on 10/22/2010 13:40:32
Morning all & Happy Fridee!
It was basically another Imus moment. In this case though, Williams was awarded with a $2 million contract and was back on the air the next night making the same bigoted remarks plus attacking the company that fired him for violating their ethics rules. The difference here, once again, is Fox News. They've proven before that if you bust your chops preaching intolerance or hate, or if you cowtow to the interests of billionaires, that you will be heavily rewarded. The extended contract is proof of that fact.
Oh by the way, I've been a heavy NPR listener for several years now, mainly since the time when Air America really started to decline and especially when our local stations dumped their decent local hosts for pre-teabagger idiots, an ex-con mayor and Beck/Rush/Hannity. However I had not donated a single penny - until today. I just signed up for a $10/mo. membership to my local station starting Nov. 1.
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 14:10:19
good morning!
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 14:15:01
I am amazed at how suddenly the entire conservative world gives a rats ass about Juan Williams.
Jeepers.
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 14:32:22
IT really would have been nice if the Conservatives we as outspoken about the firing of Helen Thomas, BTW.
then they might not look like hypocritically outspoken asses.
Comment bywickedpam on 10/22/2010 14:37:40
dude, seriously
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 14:42:05
THAT clause that Chris just read is the reason why NPR told NPR employees NOT to attend the Rallly to restore Sanity in DC next weekend.
Are the Wingers willing to be outraged about that?
The FBI is investigating a toxic substance found inside a package that was sent to the office of Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, a spokesman for the congressman said.
Staffers checking mail in the congressman's Tucson, Arizona, office Thursday found a white powdery substance and drawings of two swastikas inside an envelope, Grijalva campaign spokesman Adam Sarvana told CNN.
The Tucson Fire Department confirmed the substance inside the envelope was toxic, he said.
Almost a dozen people were inside the office at the time, he said. All of them were checked on-scene by local authorities and sent home.
Scientists at an FBI laboratory in Phoenix, Arizona, are now conducting a full analysis of the substance, Sarvana said.
Comment bylivingonli on 10/22/2010 15:40:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli: Why is the KTLK stream running all these Meg Whitman ads?
cause she bought ads, its the scatter shot method of advertising
You would think on a progressive talker you would hear some ads for the Democrats.
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 15:47:38
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli: Why is the KTLK stream running all these Meg Whitman ads?
cause she bought ads, its the scatter shot method of advertising
You would think on a progressive talker you would hear some ads for the Democrats.
I'd like to see a few Jerry Brown ads on conservative radio.
What I found most puzzling, though, was this passage from Williams' commentary that appeared on FoxNews.com:
Daniel Schorr, my fellow NPR commentator who died earlier this year, used to talk about the initial shock of finding himself on President Nixon’s enemies list. I can only imagine Dan’s revulsion to realize that today NPR treats a journalist who has worked for them for 10 years with less regard, less respect for the value of independence of thought and embrace of real debate across political lines, than Nixon ever displayed.
I don't know what Schorr might have said to Williams, but I suspect he may have pointed out that in the most infamous case, Nixon had CIA agents trailing Jack Anderson, a reporter he despised, and they were plotting ways they might kill him. (Mark Feldstein's recent book explaining the history was excerpted on NPR's website.) That seems worse to me. A lot worse.
I am happy but Highly skeptical at the vast number of races that have suddenly started closing in regarding the polling.
Comment byMondobubba on 10/22/2010 16:41:02
Quote by Raine: I our POTUS.
I Everyone participating in this wonderful campaign.
The quote from the Prez is what really struck me. It defined my life from about 4th grade on. It is why I hate bullies and bullying with the white hot intensity of thousands of suns all going super nova at the same time. Bullying is ugly and cowardly.
What stunning to me is that an entire generation of people never knew the name Anita Hill until this week.
Many of us knew what a complete and utter despicable person he was -- but now a whole new generation does!
Between that and his hackery as a judge should make him a disgrace but the teabaggers and corporatists will keep him afloat since he does their bidding.
Comment byTriSec on 10/22/2010 19:14:16
Howdy folks!
This whole NPR thing is yet another cup of hypocrisy tea.
I don't think the First Ammendment applies; is NPR a private company, or is it chartered by Uncle Sam?
Because a private company can do anything unconstitutional that they like (See the Boy Scouts & Gays), but the government can't.
This was the topic of conversation on last night's "Nightside" (WBZ, Boston). I almost called in to argue with Dan Rea over it, but I did not. This is no different that Bill-O shouting down any liberal that dares to go on his show. Private companies can hold their employees to any standard that they wish, a point that is often overlooked by both sides in any First Ammendment debate.
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 19:36:35
sweet deal o the day, and dinner for tonite.
Live Blue Claw crabs -- 2 bucks a pound...
Comment byTriSec on 10/22/2010 19:37:35
BTW, Questions for Dubya last night on TRMS:
WMD...WTF?
Comment byTriSec on 10/22/2010 19:43:06
I've had a vicious earworm for weeks. I can't figure this one out.
"Daytripper"....John, Paul, George, & Ringo.
Got 'Beatles 1' on the ol' ipod now, we'll see if that helps any.
Comment byMondobubba on 10/22/2010 19:46:22
Quote by Raine: sweet deal o the day, and dinner for tonite.
Live Blue Claw crabs -- 2 bucks a pound...
Did you get the Old Bay? Blue crabs require Old Bay. It is a little know law.
Comment byScoopster on 10/22/2010 19:56:27
Comment byMondobubba on 10/22/2010 19:57:51
Quote by TriSec: I've had a vicious earworm for weeks. I can't figure this one out.
"Daytripper"....John, Paul, George, & Ringo.
Got 'Beatles 1' on the ol' ipod now, we'll see if that helps any.
Gee thanks for sharing. I know have said earworm. It will pass.
In other news, Tri would be in av-dork nerdvana as the Navel Airstation Jacksonville Air Show is this weekend. I on the other hand, not so much. Perhaps because of the 25th pass of the day by a low flying F-18 over my house.
Comment byTriSec on 10/22/2010 19:58:07
I'm off to carve pumpkins with the scouts tonight...we'll be having a dining hall full of pizza.
We've got clam pizza up here in some quarters....anything similar down by the Bay?
Comment byMondobubba on 10/22/2010 20:01:51
Quote by TriSec: I'm off to carve pumpkins with the scouts tonight...we'll be having a dining hall full of pizza.
We've got clam pizza up here in some quarters....anything similar down by the Bay?
Crab maybe.
Comment byRaine on 10/22/2010 20:13:11
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: sweet deal o the day, and dinner for tonite.
Live Blue Claw crabs -- 2 bucks a pound...
Did you get the Old Bay? Blue crabs require Old Bay. It is a little know law.
It's a pretty well known law, I thought.
Comment byScoopster on 10/22/2010 23:27:37
Quote by TriSec: I'm off to carve pumpkins with the scouts tonight...we'll be having a dining hall full of pizza.
We've got clam pizza up here in some quarters....anything similar down by the Bay?
Mmmmmmmmm that sounds good. In fact.. how about a white pie with parmesan, clams, pesto, and cubed eggplant? I know just the place near me to get it from too.
Comment byBobR on 10/23/2010 01:38:57
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by TriSec: I'm off to carve pumpkins with the scouts tonight...we'll be having a dining hall full of pizza.
We've got clam pizza up here in some quarters....anything similar down by the Bay?
Mmmmmmmmm that sounds good. In fact.. how about a white pie with parmesan, clams, pesto, and cubed eggplant? I know just the place near me to get it from too.
I know a certain New Yorker who would claim "that's not REAL pizza"...
Comment byTriSec on 10/23/2010 02:30:37
I will yield bagels to New York City. But you won't be beating a North End pizza anytime soon in Manhattan.
Comment byRaine on 10/23/2010 03:42:07
Quote by TriSec: I will yield bagels to New York City. But you won't be beating a North End pizza anytime soon in Manhattan.
How many martini's have you had? I ask cawz youz is tawlkin' some wicket retahded shit.