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Author: TriSec    Date: 02/28/2012 11:29:17

Good Morning.

Today is our 3,796th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,906
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 999

We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:

$ 1, 306, 838, 800, 000 .00


We'll start this morning in Iraq. Most of the troops are now home, although we remain in nearby Kuwait and there remains a small garrison at the US Embassy. Although not as widely-known as the thousands still missing from WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, a lone soldier remained missing in Iraq. Until this past weekend, that is.


BAGHDAD — The U.S military announced Sunday that it has recovered the remains of the last American service member who was unaccounted for in Iraq, an Army interpreter seized by gunmen after sneaking off base to visit his Iraqi wife in Baghdad during the height of the insurgency.

The remains of Staff Sgt. Ahmed Altaie, who was 41 when militiamen seized him on Oct. 23, 2006, were positively identified at the military’s mortuary in Dover, Del., the Army said in a statement released Sunday. Army officials said they had no further details about the circumstances surrounding his death or the discovery of his remains.

Altaie’s brother, Hathal Altaie, told The Associated Press the military officer who visited the family’s home to inform them about the remains said they are still in Dover, but that he didn’t know the circumstances surrounding his brother’s death.

“We have no information right now, not even how the body looks like or when they’re going to release him,” Hathal Altaie said by phone from Ann Arbor, Mich., where the family settled after leaving Iraq for the U.S. when his brother was still a teenager.

Their uncle, Entifadh Qanbar, said he was told by the Army major who informed the family in Ann Arbor that the remains were received at Dover on Feb. 22.

“I asked if it was an accident or if he was killed, and he said they didn’t know, that they are investigating,” Qanbar said by phone from Beirut, where he lives. “He said he had the same questions that I have.”

The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad did not respond to a request for comment late Sunday.


The succesful recovery of Ssgt. Altaie throws the spotlight on a little-known military group; the Joint POW-MIA Accounting Command. Usually operating deep down under the radar, these soldiers continue the search for those GIs that never came home. While the story is mostly about recovering WWII remains, nevertheless it's a worthwhile read to learn about these dedicated soldiers.


Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii (CNN) -- There is a skull here, hundreds of fragments of bones there. Table after table is lined with human remains. One holds a near-complete skeleton, another has hundreds of tiny pieces of bone that could come from many different people. Together, it tells the story of life and death in the military.

At the world's largest skeletal identification laboratory more than 30 forensic anthropologists, archaeologists and dentists of Joint POW-MIA Accounting Command are working to put names to the remains.

Based at Hickam Air Force Base -- site of the Pearl Harbor attack -- in Honolulu, Hawaii, JPAC is made up of all branches of the U.S. military and civilian scientists, united in the goal of bringing back all 84,000 U.S. service members who went missing during war or military action.

The unit researches old war records and combs battle sites and aircraft crash sites in some of the most remote locations around the world.

Any recovered remains are brought back to JPAC's Central Identification Laboratory.

The mission is to bring answers to families who may have been waiting 60 years or more to hear anything about a loved one.

They call it the most honorable mission in the military.

"I've been all over the world from Korea to South Africa, East Asia to South America and then, of course, in Iraq and my job is to defeat the enemy. I am proud of that," says Lt. Col. Raul Gonzalez, who works at JPAC managing 18 teams who search for remains.

"This job, though, has been one of the more healing jobs in a sense that instead of doing what I am normally planning on doing and training to do, I'm bringing people back together, bringing families back together, bringing closure and it is truly, deep down inside, one of the most rewarding experiences."

Dr. Robert Mann, a forensic anthropologist at CIL and head of the forensic science academy there. "The task is daunting. It's incredibly complicated. It goes to the peaks of the Himalayas, it goes to the jungles of Southeast Asia. It goes to the oceans of the Pacific. So from the highest point to the lowest point on the earth, we're looking for missing Americans."

The mission can start in many different ways, possibly a tip from a veteran who remembers where he lost a fellow soldier during a hectic battle, or even from someone finding remains while digging in their yard.

Most of the time, investigations begin with a researcher or historian who searches military records known as Individual Deceased Personnel Files.

The files include information about where a service member was lost and how that person may have died. It's the researcher's role to figure out if there is enough evidence to search a site.

"We'll look at all the evidence and say is it going to be worth it to actually go to the site?" explains historian Andrew Speelhoffer. "And if it is, the next time we're in that country, we'll put that on the list. And we'll go to the site and we'll locate and question any witnesses."

"I think one of the most interesting parts of my job is just learning these cases individually," Speelhoffer says. "I think one of the things about World War II is just the size of it, just the numbers you're talking about. We're missing upwards of 74,000 Americans.

"When you're dealing with those kinds of numbers, it's really interesting to look at these cases on an individual basis and learn little bits, little tidbits of information about these guys. You know, where they were from, what particular mission they were on, that kind of thing."



Speaking of old records, I'll have to make one of those jarring transitions that we often have to do here at Ask a Vet. Overturning DADT was a long and painful affair, and like most government actions, there's a mountain of paperwork as a result of the ordeal. The debate continues, and to paraphrase Rep. Barney Frank; "The only people affected by DADT getting overturned were these folks that lived next door to a gay soldier - he went to Iraq and they had to watch his cat." Nevertheless, the battle continues to "take America back [to 1850]". A conservative group has filed a lawsuit to obtain the DADT survey results on the grounds that they were somehow fraudulent.


A conservative Christian advocacy group and the leading opponent of integrating gays into the military have joined forces to sue the Navy to obtain records they believe will show that the Pentagon intentionally deceived Congress by distorting the findings of an internal study.

The study played a role in the decision to overturn the “don’t ask, don’t tell” ban on openly gay military service, which ended last year.

While the Pentagon conducted the survey, the groups are targeting the Navy because they say the Navy, along with the Pentagon, has not produced any documents related to consideration of the potential impact of the repeal despite the groups’ “numerous” Freedom of Information Act requests. The documents, the groups claim, will help determine the extent to which the Navy “engaged in a campaign of deception” — as suggested, they say, by a Pentagon agency’s investigative report.

The lawsuit by the Thomas More Law Center, filed on behalf of the Center for Military Readiness, centers on an April Department of Defense Inspector General investigation into a leak of the report to The Washington Post. The Post ran a Nov. 11, 2010, story centered on a key finding: that roughly 70 percent of respondents to the Pentagon’s survey of troops said the repeal’s effect would be positive, mixed or nonexistent.

The groups say the survey “suggested a distorted Pentagon study of homosexuals in the military was produced and leaked solely to persuade Congress to lift the ban.” They counter the Post’s number by citing another finding in the report: that “nearly 60 percent” of those in ground combat units said that repeal would harm combat effectiveness.

“The Navy is aware of the allegations,” said Lt. Matt Allen, a Navy spokesman at the Pentagon. “But because this involves pending litigation, it would be inappropriate for us to discuss at this time.”

What goes unsaid is that the Pentagon released the entire report, survey results and appendices to the public on Nov. 30, 2010. The House and Senate passed repeal bills the following month; the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy fell off the books Sept. 20.


With everything else going on in the world, it seems to me that the election this fall is shaping up over social issues. Again. As if that will help the economy and our standing in the world.
 

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Comment by BobR on 02/28/2012 13:49:57
I am really surprised that there was only on MIA in Iraq. Sad that he got snagged trying to see his wife.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/28/2012 13:54:20
Oh the Thomas Moore Law Center. They got their ass handed to them in the Dover Schoolboard case.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 13:55:34
Morning

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 14:45:35
Good morning!

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 14:48:38
I posted this yesterday, but I think it might have been missed:


Mala. Dunno if you had a chance to see this link I posted on the FCrack, but I wanted to share it with you here. Sadly Burppe and a few tomatoes that I have loved are on the list.

So I am searching for Non-Monsanto seeds and plants for the garden this year. I found this, and I thought you might be interested. I could pick up some for you if you haveany requests. We have a MOM's market here and they are reported to sell the seeds .




Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 14:49:04
Why do I keep getting the nagging feeling the Michigan Dems voting for Ricky is going to bite us in the rear in the future?

Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 14:50:21
Quote by Raine:
I posted this yesterday, but I think it might have been missed:


Mala. Dunno if you had a chance to see this link I posted on the FCrack, but I wanted to share it with you here. Sadly Burppe and a few tomatoes that I have loved are on the list.

So I am searching for Non-Monsanto seeds and plants for the garden this year. I found this, and I thought you might be interested. I could pick up some for you if you haveany requests. We have a MOM's market here and they are reported to sell the seeds .






I saw something about that - its all over pinterst gardening. I have to check out all the seeds I've already got.


Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 15:00:03
Speaking of religion and politics - Its a wonder the extra crispy Christian communuty isn't freaked out by the Repub candidates - there is a Mormon and a Catholic who are the front runners. Both sects don't really take Protestants (or any other religion) that serious. As noted by Ricky's comments about them and the Morman chuch postumus baptising(sp).

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 15:03:32
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I posted this yesterday, but I think it might have been missed:


Mala. Dunno if you had a chance to see this link I posted on the FCrack, but I wanted to share it with you here. Sadly Burppe and a few tomatoes that I have loved are on the list.

So I am searching for Non-Monsanto seeds and plants for the garden this year. I found this, and I thought you might be interested. I could pick up some for you if you haveany requests. We have a MOM's market here and they are reported to sell the seeds .






I saw something about that - its all over pinterst gardening. I have to check out all the seeds I've already got.
It's not like I am a huge "organic" seed gardner, but monsanto is a bridge too far for me, personally.






Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 15:05:49
Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of religion and politics - Its a wonder the extra crispy Christian communuty isn't freaked out by the Repub candidates - there is a Mormon and a Catholic who are the front runners. Both sects don't really take Protestants (or any other religion) that serious. As noted by Ricky's comments about them and the Morman chuch postumus baptising(sp).
The religious right really seems to be all over the place lately.

I am not particularly religious and I found his comments about JFK and religion really offensive.

Speaking of religiosity, IHOP has free pancakes today!


Comment by BobR on 02/28/2012 15:06:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I posted this yesterday, but I think it might have been missed:


Mala. Dunno if you had a chance to see this link I posted on the FCrack, but I wanted to share it with you here. Sadly Burppe and a few tomatoes that I have loved are on the list.

So I am searching for Non-Monsanto seeds and plants for the garden this year. I found this, and I thought you might be interested. I could pick up some for you if you haveany requests. We have a MOM's market here and they are reported to sell the seeds .



I saw something about that - its all over pinterst gardening. I have to check out all the seeds I've already got.

This really hit home last year when the pumpkins we bought for Halloween decorations in Fall 2010 and tossed into the compost pile sprouted vines last spring. We let them grow and they kept sprouting flowers. We were looking forward to a bumper crop of pumpkins, but not a single one produced. We finally figured out that they must have been genetically engineered to be "sterile", so that pumpkin farmers would have to buy new seeds every year.

Comment by BobR on 02/28/2012 15:07:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of religion and politics - Its a wonder the extra crispy Christian communuty isn't freaked out by the Repub candidates - there is a Mormon and a Catholic who are the front runners. Both sects don't really take Protestants (or any other religion) that serious. As noted by Ricky's comments about them and the Morman chuch postumus baptising(sp).
The religious right really seems to be all over the place lately.

I am not particularly religious and I found his comments about JFK and religion really offensive.

Speaking of religiosity, IHOP has free pancakes today!

Fixity!

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 15:09:32
Danke bobber!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 15:10:00
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I posted this yesterday, but I think it might have been missed:


Mala. Dunno if you had a chance to see this link I posted on the FCrack, but I wanted to share it with you here. Sadly Burppe and a few tomatoes that I have loved are on the list.

So I am searching for Non-Monsanto seeds and plants for the garden this year. I found this, and I thought you might be interested. I could pick up some for you if you haveany requests. We have a MOM's market here and they are reported to sell the seeds .



I saw something about that - its all over pinterst gardening. I have to check out all the seeds I've already got.

This really hit home last year when the pumpkins we bought for Halloween decorations in Fall 2010 and tossed into the compost pile sprouted vines last spring. We let them grow and they kept sprouting flowers. We were looking forward to a bumper crop of pumpkins, but not a single one produced. We finally figured out that they must have been genetically engineered to be "sterile", so that pumpkin farmers would have to buy new seeds every year.



that's one thing I've learned through the VA Coop Ext - they stress checking out the seed packets and at the very least make sure it doesn't say hybrid. I have to find some better cantaloup seeds for this year - last years never got bigger then a softball - and only had 1 good watermelon (although that could be my novice gardening skills )

Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 15:17:40
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of religion and politics - Its a wonder the extra crispy Christian communuty isn't freaked out by the Repub candidates - there is a Mormon and a Catholic who are the front runners. Both sects don't really take Protestants (or any other religion) that serious. As noted by Ricky's comments about them and the Morman chuch postumus baptising(sp).
The religious right really seems to be all over the place lately.

I am not particularly religious and I found his comments about JFK and religion really offensive.

Speaking of religiosity, IHOP has free pancakes today!



I guess I follow the more spiritual then religious line when it comes to my faith. I've attended many types of churches (including Catholic) and only really found any comfort at the Methodist church. THough I haven't sat in a service for a very long while.

I'm really offend by what Ricky said - he has no right to put his religion over everyone elses and the nation. Somthing Bill Press (or someone on his show) said was that he thinks Ricky is the kind of Catholic that is prejudice(my word) against all other religions. It wouldn't surprise me.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/28/2012 15:42:06
Seeds and religion. Iteresting topics today.


Just off the top of my head on the seed topic, google organic, artisinal/ancesteral seeds or non-gmo seed.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/28/2012 16:21:27
Mornin' all..

Just curious.. did anyone else read this article at MoJo? I really think the writer missed the mark as far as the real injustices against the American workforce.. not to mention the experiment was badly timed.

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 17:06:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Seeds and religion. Iteresting topics today.


Just off the top of my head on the seed topic, google organic, artisinal/ancesteral seeds or non-gmo seed.
I just got non GMO open pollinated seeds at MOM's -- they had everything I wanted except cukes. -- but another shipment will be arriving soon.


Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/28/2012 17:21:33
Don't know why it took me so long to post this.



Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 17:54:20
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Just curious.. did anyone else read this article at MoJo? I really think the writer missed the mark as far as the real injustices against the American workforce.. not to mention the experiment was badly timed.
I'm not sure,that was a pretty brutal thing to read.

I would have chosen a better title. I think. In what way do you think the writer missed the mark? maybe I am missing something.


Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 18:06:14
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Don't know why it took me so long to post this.



That reminds me... I missed this story last week.

Italy plans to tax Vatican on commercial properties

Intersting....

Comment by Scoopster on 02/28/2012 18:13:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Just curious.. did anyone else read this article at MoJo? I really think the writer missed the mark as far as the real injustices against the American workforce.. not to mention the experiment was badly timed.
I'm not sure,that was a pretty brutal thing to read.

I would have chosen a better title. I think. In what way do you think the writer missed the mark? maybe I am missing something.

Well, first off the author chose to do their experiment during the most brutal period of time - the holiday sales season. It's only natural that companies would be hiring mounds of temporary seasonal workers and pushing them to their limits in order to meet the equally rigorous demands of the consumer marketplace. That threw everything off, since the article was written with the main subject being the brutal working conditions and constant pressure to perform or lose the job. During the rest of the year, particularly right about NOW, I wouldn't be surprised if that same warehouse where the author worked isn't employing ANYONE on a temporary basis and even the permanent staff is absolutely DESPERATE for some action.

I feel the article would have been much better if it was written with the subject being that this is what the American workforce has been mostly reduced to - hundreds of thousands of unorganized skilled workers fighting for low-paying, unskilled jobs with few hours and no benefits during most of the year, with a burst of sudden violent activity and increased pressure to perform or be fired during the holiday season.

Or.. my personal experience in years past as both a long-term temporary worker and unskilled heavy labor (unloading/sorting tractor trailers in retail) is skewing my outlook. I dunno..

Comment by livingonli on 02/28/2012 18:44:23
Good day everyone. It does feel like so much to do and so little time to do it.

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 19:04:09
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Just curious.. did anyone else read this article at MoJo? I really think the writer missed the mark as far as the real injustices against the American workforce.. not to mention the experiment was badly timed.
I'm not sure,that was a pretty brutal thing to read.

I would have chosen a better title. I think. In what way do you think the writer missed the mark? maybe I am missing something.

Well, first off the author chose to do their experiment during the most brutal period of time - the holiday sales season. It's only natural that companies would be hiring mounds of temporary seasonal workers and pushing them to their limits in order to meet the equally rigorous demands of the consumer marketplace. That threw everything off, since the article was written with the main subject being the brutal working conditions and constant pressure to perform or lose the job. During the rest of the year, particularly right about NOW, I wouldn't be surprised if that same warehouse where the author worked isn't employing ANYONE on a temporary basis and even the permanent staff is absolutely DESPERATE for some action.

I feel the article would have been much better if it was written with the subject being that this is what the American workforce has been mostly reduced to - hundreds of thousands of unorganized skilled workers fighting for low-paying, unskilled jobs with few hours and no benefits during most of the year, with a burst of sudden violent activity and increased pressure to perform or be fired during the holiday season.

Or.. my personal experience in years past as both a long-term temporary worker and unskilled heavy labor (unloading/sorting tractor trailers in retail) is skewing my outlook. I dunno..
Ahh, I see a bit more of what you are saying. Yes, the seasonal timing is a big factor-- agreed.

That said, holiday or not, it seems as tho the company should at least make accommodations for such an influx of workers -- like extra bathrooms, and maybe timing breaks so there aren't so many people off the floor at the same time?

I can see how holiday season would be a lot more intense, but the conditions mentioned -- and commented on by the supervisors seem to indicate that these condition exist year round. That a Staffing agency is located on site is rather deplorable, and the fact that they said people would be fired and rehired for missing a day -- well I don't see how that would only occur during seasonal work.

Do they have less intense expectation of workers when the staff isn't at peak? I wonder.

The Workampers sections indicated to me that people are fighting for these jobs all year long.

I guess I read it all with the inclination of thinking about how many people across America have to go thru this just to make ends meet. She probably could have made it a bigger focus, but I sort-of got that idea.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/28/2012 19:07:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Just curious.. did anyone else read this article at MoJo? I really think the writer missed the mark as far as the real injustices against the American workforce.. not to mention the experiment was badly timed.
I'm not sure,that was a pretty brutal thing to read.

I would have chosen a better title. I think. In what way do you think the writer missed the mark? maybe I am missing something.

Well, first off the author chose to do their experiment during the most brutal period of time - the holiday sales season. It's only natural that companies would be hiring mounds of temporary seasonal workers and pushing them to their limits in order to meet the equally rigorous demands of the consumer marketplace. That threw everything off, since the article was written with the main subject being the brutal working conditions and constant pressure to perform or lose the job. During the rest of the year, particularly right about NOW, I wouldn't be surprised if that same warehouse where the author worked isn't employing ANYONE on a temporary basis and even the permanent staff is absolutely DESPERATE for some action.

I feel the article would have been much better if it was written with the subject being that this is what the American workforce has been mostly reduced to - hundreds of thousands of unorganized skilled workers fighting for low-paying, unskilled jobs with few hours and no benefits during most of the year, with a burst of sudden violent activity and increased pressure to perform or be fired during the holiday season.

Or.. my personal experience in years past as both a long-term temporary worker and unskilled heavy labor (unloading/sorting tractor trailers in retail) is skewing my outlook. I dunno..



Not that I've been able to the read the whole article yet (damn work!) but I think Scoop is on to something. Scoop, you are right, businesses treat their temps like shit. The atitude that I've encountered is don't like it, tough, we can replace you.

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 20:15:49
I have been doing yardwork today!



Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 20:21:38
Quote by Raine:
I have been doing yardwork today!




ack! you've gotten a head start on me! I need to get out and start turning over the soil and check on the garlic. plus I need to start the peas!!!

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 20:45:52
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I have been doing yardwork today!




ack! you've gotten a head start on me! I need to get out and start turning over the soil and check on the garlic. plus I need to start the peas!!!
I found a place in the yard to plant some peas this year without having to build something for it to vine on.

I'm gonna tie some strings along the flower bed in the front and plant them in front of that wooden thing that hides the garbage pails. This way I can have flowers and a nice pea vine!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 20:46:47
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I have been doing yardwork today!




ack! you've gotten a head start on me! I need to get out and start turning over the soil and check on the garlic. plus I need to start the peas!!!
I found a place in the yard to plant some peas this year without having to build something for it to vine on.

I'm gonna tie some strings along the flower bed in the front and plant them in front of that wooden thing that hides the garbage pails. This way I can have flowers and a nice pea vine!



oohh, that will look pretty

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 20:47:33
Mala, last year you sent me a pdf of planting schedules for virginia, did you email that to me? I have to go find it, if I can;t can you send it again?




Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 20:52:58
Quote by Raine:
Mala, last year you sent me a pdf of planting schedules for virginia, did you email that to me? I have to go find it, if I can;t can you send it again?





I think I still have it. I know the hard copy if on the frig so I can always scan it if I can't find it

Comment by Raine on 02/28/2012 21:34:02
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mala, last year you sent me a pdf of planting schedules for virginia, did you email that to me? I have to go find it, if I can;t can you send it again?





I think I still have it. I know the hard copy if on the frig so I can always scan it if I can't find it
Thanks. Turns out I can't find it. (figures.)

In other news I found out TWO more of my neighbors are moving!

I guess once people have a second child, these places are a little too small.


Comment by wickedpam on 02/28/2012 21:37:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mala, last year you sent me a pdf of planting schedules for virginia, did you email that to me? I have to go find it, if I can;t can you send it again?





I think I still have it. I know the hard copy if on the frig so I can always scan it if I can't find it
Thanks. Turns out I can't find it. (figures.)

In other news I found out TWO more of my neighbors are moving!

I guess once people have a second child, these places are a little too small.



I think that's the usual case, we have a neighbor selling their house and it looks like they have a 2nd kid on the way.

Why is it the crap neighbors stay but the good ones move out?

Comment by Scoopster on 02/28/2012 23:16:56
HOLY CRAP!!!!

Olympia Snowe is retiring!

Comment by Raine on 02/29/2012 00:36:29
Quote by Scoopster:
HOLY CRAP!!
Olympia Snowe is retiring!
I heard that a little while ago...

She is pretty much the VERY last of the Rockefeller republicans. When is her seat up for re-election?


Comment by Raine on 02/29/2012 00:39:24
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Mala, last year you sent me a pdf of planting schedules for virginia, did you email that to me? I have to go find it, if I can;t can you send it again?





I think I still have it. I know the hard copy if on the frig so I can always scan it if I can't find it
Thanks. Turns out I can't find it. (figures.)

In other news I found out TWO more of my neighbors are moving!

I guess once people have a second child, these places are a little too small.



I think that's the usual case, we have a neighbor selling their house and it looks like they have a 2nd kid on the way.

Why is it the crap neighbors stay but the good ones move out?
So far,I can say we have been lucky -- our new neighbors have been great. It just sucks having to develop that *new Neighbor* thing all over again.

I guess the neighbors felt that way about Bob and I when we moved in. Still sucks. It's nice knowing that even if you don't socialize on a regular basis, you know you have people watching your back.




Comment by Raine on 02/29/2012 00:47:02
I am actually sad that Snowe is leaving. Seems she was pushed out -- as she put it: *My way or the Highway* groupthink. I may not have alwasy agreed with her, but I did respect her for her approach to governance.

We can bitch and complain about the Dems -- but I am confident in saying this: They are NOT the party of 'MY way or the Highway.'



Comment by TriSec on 02/29/2012 03:01:05
When we almost moved to Maine, I checked out both the Senators. I might have disagreed with Ms. Snowe on quite a few things, but at the end of the day....I could have lived with her as my Senator.

I think she is beyond reproach when she slams the current atmosphere in Washington as unworkable...perhaps she alone out of all of them is the only one that can say so without a hint of irony or hypocrisy.

She will be missed, I think.