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Ask a Vet Dump!
Author: TriSec
Date: 07/17/2012 11:44:04
Good Morning.
Today is our 3,936th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,042
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,045
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
$ 1, 353, 180, 900, 000 .00
So...it's curious. Being out of work, I read the news. A lot. I've managed to save a significant number of stories for this column...far too many for even a month's worth. So here we go, without the usual framework. I'm sorry, but you'll have to head for the links to get the details today.
Let's start by thinking about getting the troops home. We've left Iraq already, but the troops haven't gone very far. Speaking of getting home, getting the hell out of Afghanistan isn't going to be cheap.
There's a giant mishmosh of economic things that I've run across...so think about these few things for those troops that might eventually come home. They're going to need jobs and houses...but in California, those houses remain unoccupied because of budget constraints. On the jobs front...well, maybe some of those returning veterans will be heading for a different kind of front.
Of course, some of those returning vets might be headed to school under the new GI Bill. While most colleges are accomodating and honest in their practices, some are vultures.
Finally this morning...let's take a brief look at some of the contracting practices at the Pentagon. Wouldn't it be nice to go all "Mitt" on contractors that are criminal in their practices and fire them? Unfortunately, the Pentagon just keeps 'em. And speaking of criminal, I've got a couple of updates on some things we've been following for a long time here about KBR. Of course, they can do no wrong, so they're hoping to have the burn-pit lawsuits dismissed. Luckily for KBR, the electrocution lawsuit has already been wiped away.
So....there you have it. I hope I haven't swamped everyone with information today, but my notebook is clear!
Today is our 3,936th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,042
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,045
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
So...it's curious. Being out of work, I read the news. A lot. I've managed to save a significant number of stories for this column...far too many for even a month's worth. So here we go, without the usual framework. I'm sorry, but you'll have to head for the links to get the details today.
Let's start by thinking about getting the troops home. We've left Iraq already, but the troops haven't gone very far. Speaking of getting home, getting the hell out of Afghanistan isn't going to be cheap.
There's a giant mishmosh of economic things that I've run across...so think about these few things for those troops that might eventually come home. They're going to need jobs and houses...but in California, those houses remain unoccupied because of budget constraints. On the jobs front...well, maybe some of those returning veterans will be heading for a different kind of front.
Of course, some of those returning vets might be headed to school under the new GI Bill. While most colleges are accomodating and honest in their practices, some are vultures.
Finally this morning...let's take a brief look at some of the contracting practices at the Pentagon. Wouldn't it be nice to go all "Mitt" on contractors that are criminal in their practices and fire them? Unfortunately, the Pentagon just keeps 'em. And speaking of criminal, I've got a couple of updates on some things we've been following for a long time here about KBR. Of course, they can do no wrong, so they're hoping to have the burn-pit lawsuits dismissed. Luckily for KBR, the electrocution lawsuit has already been wiped away.
So....there you have it. I hope I haven't swamped everyone with information today, but my notebook is clear!
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Comment by 
BobR on 07/17/2012 12:06:46
BobR on 07/17/2012 12:06:46
Comment by 
Raine on 07/17/2012 12:37:36
Good Morning!
Raine on 07/17/2012 12:37:36
Good Morning!
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 12:40:32
Raine on 07/17/2012 12:40:32
You know, I think I mentioned this is yesterdays blog...
Now the Obama campaign is asking the same question...
Now the Obama campaign is asking the same question...
The former Massachusetts governor has released his 2010 tax return and released an estimate of his 2011 taxes, with a pledge to release the full return. But he has resisted giving more information about his past taxes. Obama’s ad seizes on that fact, saying it “makes you wonder if some years he paid any taxes at all. â€
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 12:49:44
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 12:49:44
Morning 
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 12:58:19
"I'm out the game Jimmy. I gonna buy a trumpet and move to New Orleans and play some jazz!" Brilliant!
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 12:58:19
Quote by BobR:
This one is for Mondo: "The Wire" done with LEGOs
"I'm out the game Jimmy. I gonna buy a trumpet and move to New Orleans and play some jazz!" Brilliant!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 13:02:20
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 13:02:20
Had my "Office Space" moment of the day. My boss has told me :lundberg voice: "Your signature file isn't correct." My thought balloon, who the fuck cares?
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/17/2012 13:16:05
This is where you need a lightsaber.
TriSec on 07/17/2012 13:16:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Had my "Office Space" moment of the day. My boss has told me :lundberg voice: "Your signature file isn't correct." My thought balloon, who the fuck cares?
This is where you need a lightsaber.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 13:17:11
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 13:17:11
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig? 
no wonder we have such bad body images
no wonder we have such bad body images
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 13:30:43
I missed that.
Whatis a zaftig?
Raine on 07/17/2012 13:30:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
Whatis a zaftig?
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 13:32:03
never mind.
Wow. I am a little surprised at that.
Raine on 07/17/2012 13:32:03
Quote by Raine:I missed that.Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
Whatis a zaftig?
Wow. I am a little surprised at that.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 13:37:43
oops - did I have a spelling trainwreck as I am want to do.
I know right, she looks tiny to me.
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 13:37:43
Quote by Raine:never mind.Quote by Raine:I missed that.Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
Whatis a zaftig?
Wow. I am a little surprised at that.
oops - did I have a spelling trainwreck as I am want to do.
I know right, she looks tiny to me.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 13:46:17
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 13:46:17
Mornin' all! 
I thought the word was cougar?
Quote by Raine:never mind.Quote by Raine:I missed that.Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
Whatis a zaftig?
Wow. I am a little surprised at that.
I thought the word was cougar?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:03:29
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:03:29
Dear America:
This is an email address: myname@domainname.com
This is a website address: http://www.companyname.com
Please stop confusing them.
Thanks!
This is an email address: myname@domainname.com
This is a website address: http://www.companyname.com
Please stop confusing them.
Thanks!
Comment by BobR on 07/17/2012 14:10:49
Ya know - if it weren't for dumb people, you wouldn't have a job.
BobR on 07/17/2012 14:10:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
Dear America:
This is an email address: myname@domainname.com
This is a website address: http://www.companyname.com
Please stop confusing them.
Thanks!
Ya know - if it weren't for dumb people, you wouldn't have a job.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:13:11
Bob, there are the people that give dumb people a bad name.
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:13:11
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Dear America:
This is an email address: myname@domainname.com
This is a website address: http://www.companyname.com
Please stop confusing them.
Thanks!
Ya know - if it weren't for dumb people, you wouldn't have a job.
Bob, there are the people that give dumb people a bad name.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:24:46
How can you tell? She is wearing an apron and shapeless pants.
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:24:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:never mind.Quote by Raine:I missed that.Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
Whatis a zaftig?
Wow. I am a little surprised at that.
oops - did I have a spelling trainwreck as I am want to do.
I know right, she looks tiny to me.
How can you tell? She is wearing an apron and shapeless pants.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:28:52
I wonder if Chris is one of those folks who says Christina Hendricks is "fat"
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 14:28:52
Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
I wonder if Chris is one of those folks who says Christina Hendricks is "fat"
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 14:31:15
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 14:31:15
Hello, bloggers!!
Raine, zaftig is a Yiddish word meaning having a full-figure. Zaftig's is the name of a Jewish deli in Brookline, MA and Newton, MA.
TriSec, thanks for the blog. I worry about how many GIs will get screwed over by for profit colleges and universities that offer little.
Raine, zaftig is a Yiddish word meaning having a full-figure. Zaftig's is the name of a Jewish deli in Brookline, MA and Newton, MA.
TriSec, thanks for the blog. I worry about how many GIs will get screwed over by for profit colleges and universities that offer little.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 14:42:37
It wouldn't surprise me, they have an odd sense of average out in LaLa Land
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 14:42:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Chris considers Flo from progressive as zaftig?
no wonder we have such bad body images
I wonder if Chris is one of those folks who says Christina Hendricks is "fat"
It wouldn't surprise me, they have an odd sense of average out in LaLa Land
Comment by Scoopster on 07/17/2012 14:42:43
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 14:42:43
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 14:47:59
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 14:47:59
So this happened Sunday morning in Manassas. 
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 14:52:01
Scoop...you are going to make me cry....
I postedthe NYT link a few hours ago...
Raine on 07/17/2012 14:52:01
Quote by Scoopster:
HOLEEEE CRAP OBAMA IS GOING FOR THE JUGULAR!
New OFA ad asks if Romney has paid any taxes at all
Scoop...you are going to make me cry....
I postedthe NYT link a few hours ago...
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 14:56:27
That is a little bit awesome!
Raine on 07/17/2012 14:56:27
Quote by wickedpam:
So this happened Sunday morning in Manassas.
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 14:57:51
Raine on 07/17/2012 14:57:51
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:00:20
I shop at the Harris Teeter at that intersection, so we're there at lease once a week. I mean I knew there were cows at that farm (they've escaped before too and I've seen them walking down the PW parkway. And I knew there was a Llama farm kinda close down Liberia, but the emu was a surprise XD
They think it might have escaped from that Llama farm
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:00:20
Quote by Raine:That is a little bit awesome!Quote by wickedpam:
So this happened Sunday morning in Manassas.
I shop at the Harris Teeter at that intersection, so we're there at lease once a week. I mean I knew there were cows at that farm (they've escaped before too and I've seen them walking down the PW parkway. And I knew there was a Llama farm kinda close down Liberia, but the emu was a surprise XD
They think it might have escaped from that Llama farm
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 15:12:22
TriSec on 07/17/2012 15:12:22
OK folks, so I know knowledge is power, and the truth will set me free.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:12:54
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:12:54
Mudcat does have that Virginia southern accent 
Comment by BobR on 07/17/2012 15:15:04
My mother had a stroke and THEN breast cancer, and was 70 at the time is still alive 13 years later. Treatments have advanced since then. People beat cancer all the time.
BobR on 07/17/2012 15:15:04
Quote by TriSec:
OK folks, so I know knowledge is power, and the truth will set me free.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
My mother had a stroke and THEN breast cancer, and was 70 at the time is still alive 13 years later. Treatments have advanced since then. People beat cancer all the time.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:19:41
You are stronger then this stupid cancer. Hell, you are the only person I know that freaking camps (real camping not suburban camping) in the flipping cold!
You are going to see Javi graduate HS and College and dance at this wedding and hold grandbabies.
They write that stuff to be honest and blunt about the worst possible cases to you walk into it with eyes wide open. They don't want that sugar coated and not a good idea for it to be.
BUT - for your own sanity (and speaking as someone who drove them selves crazy with digging for medical info) stay off of webmd and don't google. Wail until you see the doc.
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:19:41
Quote by TriSec:
OK folks, so I know knowledge is power, and the truth will set me free.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
You are stronger then this stupid cancer. Hell, you are the only person I know that freaking camps (real camping not suburban camping) in the flipping cold!
You are going to see Javi graduate HS and College and dance at this wedding and hold grandbabies.
They write that stuff to be honest and blunt about the worst possible cases to you walk into it with eyes wide open. They don't want that sugar coated and not a good idea for it to be.
BUT - for your own sanity (and speaking as someone who drove them selves crazy with digging for medical info) stay off of webmd and don't google. Wail until you see the doc.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:20:42
exactly. treatments have changed so much in the last 20+ years its crazy
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:20:42
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
OK folks, so I know knowledge is power, and the truth will set me free.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
My mother had a stroke and THEN breast cancer, and was 70 at the time is still alive 13 years later. Treatments have advanced since then. People beat cancer all the time.
exactly. treatments have changed so much in the last 20+ years its crazy
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 15:24:49
See now, I think I'm smarter than that. I work in the business (although on the admin side), I've been to school for this stuff, and I'm a first aid instructor myself. I think maybe it's the waiting more than anything else. My appointment is next Tuesday, so I have another week to mull this over and go all hypochondriac.
ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
TriSec on 07/17/2012 15:24:49
Quote by wickedpam:
BUT - for you own sanity (and speaking as someone who drove them selves crazy with digging for medical info) stay off of webmd and don't google. Wail until you see the doc.
See now, I think I'm smarter than that. I work in the business (although on the admin side), I've been to school for this stuff, and I'm a first aid instructor myself. I think maybe it's the waiting more than anything else. My appointment is next Tuesday, so I have another week to mull this over and go all hypochondriac.
ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
Comment by Scoopster on 07/17/2012 15:25:59
Forgive me.. I swear it's these damn allergy pills. I'm half fucking asleep all the time because of them, and when I don't take them my eyes drip like a faucet from the pollen.
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 15:25:59
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
HOLEEEE CRAP OBAMA IS GOING FOR THE JUGULAR!
New OFA ad asks if Romney has paid any taxes at all
Scoop...you are going to make me cry....
I postedthe NYT link a few hours ago...
Forgive me.. I swear it's these damn allergy pills. I'm half fucking asleep all the time because of them, and when I don't take them my eyes drip like a faucet from the pollen.
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 15:30:10
:hug:
Raine on 07/17/2012 15:30:10
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
HOLEEEE CRAP OBAMA IS GOING FOR THE JUGULAR!
New OFA ad asks if Romney has paid any taxes at all
Scoop...you are going to make me cry....
I postedthe NYT link a few hours ago...
Forgive me.. I swear it's these damn allergy pills. I'm half fucking asleep all the time because of them, and when I don't take them my eyes drip like a faucet from the pollen.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:30:22
it is the waiting and a little be of the not knowing all the factual details of your own info- when I was diagnosed with my pituitary tumor I googled every thing I could find. For a while I was convinced I was going to go blind because its near the optic nerves. But the doc told me it was completely treatable, now the only thing that freaks me out is when I have to get an MIR
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:30:22
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
BUT - for you own sanity (and speaking as someone who drove them selves crazy with digging for medical info) stay off of webmd and don't google. Wail until you see the doc.
See now, I think I'm smarter than that. I work in the business (although on the admin side), I've been to school for this stuff, and I'm a first aid instructor myself. I think maybe it's the waiting more than anything else. My appointment is next Tuesday, so I have another week to mull this over and go all hypochondriac.
ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
it is the waiting and a little be of the not knowing all the factual details of your own info- when I was diagnosed with my pituitary tumor I googled every thing I could find. For a while I was convinced I was going to go blind because its near the optic nerves. But the doc told me it was completely treatable, now the only thing that freaks me out is when I have to get an MIR
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:34:08
and there is also a Cancer Survivors Day - cancer touches everyone's lives everyday. You either know someone with, are related to someone with it, or have it yourself. You're never alone, and it will be ok.
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:34:08
Quote by TriSec:
Well, I know this website exists.
and there is also a Cancer Survivors Day - cancer touches everyone's lives everyday. You either know someone with, are related to someone with it, or have it yourself. You're never alone, and it will be ok.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 15:42:10
That is something you don't see everyday is it?
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 15:42:10
Quote by wickedpam:
So this happened Sunday morning in Manassas.
That is something you don't see everyday is it?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:44:31
the emu no, the bad driving yes.
I have seen cows and chickens escape and a couple of huge wild turkeys, but mostly its your standard deer, squirrels and other woodland creatures
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 15:44:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
So this happened Sunday morning in Manassas.
That is something you don't see everyday is it?
the emu no, the bad driving yes.
I have seen cows and chickens escape and a couple of huge wild turkeys, but mostly its your standard deer, squirrels and other woodland creatures
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 16:21:14
TriSec, my mom survived melanoma. (As a child, she spent summers in Michigan at a time when children were encouraged to get a lot of sun.) It has been over five years since her cancer, and she is fine.
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 16:21:14
Quote by TriSec:
OK folks, so I know knowledge is power, and the truth will set me free.
So as a newly-diagnosed cancer patient (that hasn't even met with an oncologist yet), why does reading everything I can put my hands on about this make me think that I've been to Florida for the last time, and I may never see my beloved Nova Scotia again? (Never mind other things like Javi's graduation, Eagle Ceremony, grandbabies, etc.)
Somebody talk me off the ledge.
TriSec, my mom survived melanoma. (As a child, she spent summers in Michigan at a time when children were encouraged to get a lot of sun.) It has been over five years since her cancer, and she is fine.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 16:54:36
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 16:54:36
Tri, both my mom and MiL have lived through breast cancer. MiL's was going on 22 years ago. She is now too tough to die. She just turned 90 this year. I expect the same of you.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 16:58:28
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 16:58:28
Quote by BobR:
the Romney Dirt pile is becoming an avalanche
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 17:20:29
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
TriSec on 07/17/2012 17:20:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 17:37:59
Raine on 07/17/2012 17:37:59
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 17:38:26
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 17:38:26
What is it with the Republican candidates giving their kids weird first names? Did Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney get the same poor quality baby names book?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 17:43:05
never been to any of those - my beaches are in the NC - South Nags Head or a few down around Wilmington
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 17:43:05
Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
never been to any of those - my beaches are in the NC - South Nags Head or a few down around Wilmington
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 17:44:16
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 17:44:16
Okay, I will be offline for a bit but here is a story about how ugly it is getting out on the campaign trail. From the Huffington Post.
John Sununu: 'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American'
I guess that anyone who does not subscribe exactly to what Mr. Sununu believes is not an American. Sir, please tell that to people who are fighting under this country's flag, who volunteer in their communities and make a difference in this country every day.
I believe that Mr. Sununu and the President are Americans. However, the former is not a gentleman but comes across as a street thug wrapped in a nice suit. So, I guess that Mr. Sununu has again proved what Samuel Johnson said about false patriotism used by political opportunists: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
John Sununu: 'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American'
I guess that anyone who does not subscribe exactly to what Mr. Sununu believes is not an American. Sir, please tell that to people who are fighting under this country's flag, who volunteer in their communities and make a difference in this country every day.
I believe that Mr. Sununu and the President are Americans. However, the former is not a gentleman but comes across as a street thug wrapped in a nice suit. So, I guess that Mr. Sununu has again proved what Samuel Johnson said about false patriotism used by political opportunists: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/17/2012 17:47:17
It's interesting that Tag is not that far removed from Trig so he and Sarah Psycho must have the same baby name book.
livingonli on 07/17/2012 17:47:17
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
It's interesting that Tag is not that far removed from Trig so he and Sarah Psycho must have the same baby name book.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/17/2012 17:47:45
I was JUST reading this.. there's so many juicy quotes in that article.
Well in that case, SHOW US THE NOTHING!
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 17:47:45
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I will be offline for a bit but here is a story about how ugly it is getting out on the campaign trail. From the Huffington Post.
John Sununu: 'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American'
I guess that anyone who does not subscribe exactly to what Mr. Sununu believes is not an American. Sir, please tell that to people who are fighting under this country's flag, who volunteer in their communities and make a difference in this country every day.
I believe that Mr. Sununu and the President are Americans. However, the former is not a gentleman but comes across as a street thug wrapped in a nice suit. So, I guess that Mr. Sununu has again proved what Samuel Johnson said about false patriotism used by political opportunists: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
I was JUST reading this.. there's so many juicy quotes in that article.In defending the campaign's decision to not release more than two years of tax returns, Sununu also provided the kind of aggressive counterpunch that conservatives have been calling on the Romney campaign to throw for weeks, comparing the Democratic and media calls for more returns to be released to the movie "The Neverending Story."
Well in that case, SHOW US THE NOTHING!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:03:01
Naming practices of the Romney clan
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:03:01
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
Naming practices of the Romney clan
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 18:08:11
Well we are looking for a day trip tomorrow.
Raine on 07/17/2012 18:08:11
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
never been to any of those - my beaches are in the NC - South Nags Head or a few down around Wilmington
Comment by livingonli on 07/17/2012 18:12:44
And you have to love that this is largely the same group of people asking Obama to supply his birth certificate after he has done so because they believe he's a secret Kenyan Commie Agent.
livingonli on 07/17/2012 18:12:44
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I will be offline for a bit but here is a story about how ugly it is getting out on the campaign trail. From the Huffington Post.
John Sununu: 'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American'
I guess that anyone who does not subscribe exactly to what Mr. Sununu believes is not an American. Sir, please tell that to people who are fighting under this country's flag, who volunteer in their communities and make a difference in this country every day.
I believe that Mr. Sununu and the President are Americans. However, the former is not a gentleman but comes across as a street thug wrapped in a nice suit. So, I guess that Mr. Sununu has again proved what Samuel Johnson said about false patriotism used by political opportunists: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
In defending the campaign's decision to not release more than two years of tax returns, Sununu also provided the kind of aggressive counterpunch that conservatives have been calling on the Romney campaign to throw for weeks, comparing the Democratic and media calls for more returns to be released to the movie "The Neverending Story."
Well in that case, SHOW US THE NOTHING!
And you have to love that this is largely the same group of people asking Obama to supply his birth certificate after he has done so because they believe he's a secret Kenyan Commie Agent.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/17/2012 18:15:30
day trip - what about luray?
wickedpam on 07/17/2012 18:15:30
Quote by Raine:Well we are looking for a day trip tomorrow.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
never been to any of those - my beaches are in the NC - South Nags Head or a few down around Wilmington
day trip - what about luray?
Comment by Scoopster on 07/17/2012 18:20:49
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 18:20:49
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:29:06
Any of them is a good place to enjoy the Bay. I prefer the east side of the Bay
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:29:06
Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Any of them is a good place to enjoy the Bay. I prefer the east side of the Bay
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 18:38:46
I;m pretty sure we will not be doing much swimming-- the jellyfish are off the hook this year.
Raine on 07/17/2012 18:38:46
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Any of them is a good place to enjoy the Bay. I prefer the east side of the Bay
I;m pretty sure we will not be doing much swimming-- the jellyfish are off the hook this year.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:55:49
Here come the Romey boys. Mitt, Tagg, Bunt, Fugo, Steal, Squeeze Play and wait for it...
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:55:49
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
Here come the Romey boys. Mitt, Tagg, Bunt, Fugo, Steal, Squeeze Play and wait for it...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:56:13
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:56:13
Foul Pole
Comment by Scoopster on 07/17/2012 18:56:22
CAN O' CORN!
Scoopster on 07/17/2012 18:56:22
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
Here come the Romey boys. Mitt, Tagg, Bunt, Fugo, Steal, Squeeze Play and wait for it...
CAN O' CORN!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:57:11
Which I like better than Foul Pole.
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 18:57:11
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Really? Sheesh. On another note, Tagg Romney? What the hell kind of name is Tagg?
"Mitt" "Tag". Maybe one of his other sons is named "Balk" ?
Here come the Romey boys. Mitt, Tagg, Bunt, Fugo, Steal, Squeeze Play and wait for it...
CAN O' CORN!
Which I like better than Foul Pole.
Comment by livingonli on 07/17/2012 18:57:51
And that's why I often prefer the pool to the beach.
livingonli on 07/17/2012 18:57:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Any of them is a good place to enjoy the Bay. I prefer the east side of the Bay
I;m pretty sure we will not be doing much swimming-- the jellyfish are off the hook this year.
And that's why I often prefer the pool to the beach.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 19:25:41
Ya beat me to the jelly fish issue. If you do venture over to the Eastern Shore, check out St Michaels and Easton. St Michaels is on the water and has a fantastic muesum about the history of the Eastern Shore.
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 19:25:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Mondo, MAla:
Opine needed: Sandy Point State Park? North Beach? Chesapeake beach? Preferences?
Any of them is a good place to enjoy the Bay. I prefer the east side of the Bay
I;m pretty sure we will not be doing much swimming-- the jellyfish are off the hook this year.
Ya beat me to the jelly fish issue. If you do venture over to the Eastern Shore, check out St Michaels and Easton. St Michaels is on the water and has a fantastic muesum about the history of the Eastern Shore.
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 20:38:55
Raine on 07/17/2012 20:38:55
Rick Santorum just called the President a 2-Bit Dictator.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 20:41:28
Rick Stantorum has a splitery 4x4 shoved up his ass and he likes it.
Mondobubba on 07/17/2012 20:41:28
Quote by Raine:
Rick Santorum just called the President a 2-Bit Dictator.
Rick Stantorum has a splitery 4x4 shoved up his ass and he likes it.
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 20:44:38
TriSec on 07/17/2012 20:44:38
It's a bit far, but I highly recommend Nauset Beach. The sharks only occasionally eat tourists this year. Just make sure you're not named "Kinter", and it'll probably be alright.
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 20:45:33
Raine on 07/17/2012 20:45:33
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 21:00:47
In honor of the movie reference, perhaps this quote is appropriate for those who seem to want to crush the hopes of others and view others as but cogs in a machinelike existence.
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 21:00:47
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Okay, I will be offline for a bit but here is a story about how ugly it is getting out on the campaign trail. From the Huffington Post.
John Sununu: 'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American'
I guess that anyone who does not subscribe exactly to what Mr. Sununu believes is not an American. Sir, please tell that to people who are fighting under this country's flag, who volunteer in their communities and make a difference in this country every day.
I believe that Mr. Sununu and the President are Americans. However, the former is not a gentleman but comes across as a street thug wrapped in a nice suit. So, I guess that Mr. Sununu has again proved what Samuel Johnson said about false patriotism used by political opportunists: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
In defending the campaign's decision to not release more than two years of tax returns, Sununu also provided the kind of aggressive counterpunch that conservatives have been calling on the Romney campaign to throw for weeks, comparing the Democratic and media calls for more returns to be released to the movie "The Neverending Story."
Well in that case, SHOW US THE NOTHING!
And you have to love that this is largely the same group of people asking Obama to supply his birth certificate after he has done so because they believe he's a secret Kenyan Commie Agent.
In honor of the movie reference, perhaps this quote is appropriate for those who seem to want to crush the hopes of others and view others as but cogs in a machinelike existence.
"Because people who have no hopes are easy to control. And whoever has control, has the power.... I am the servant of the power behind the Nothing."
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 21:31:16
TriSec on 07/17/2012 21:31:16
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 21:36:44
I posted this earlier, was asking you for a little help in understanding... I am deeply dismayed.
Raine on 07/17/2012 21:36:44
Quote by TriSec:
Opportunity missed.
I wonder if devoting my life to this organization is the right move.
Comment by Raine on 07/17/2012 21:37:17
Raine on 07/17/2012 21:37:17
Ok, we are out of here for a bit.. play nice! 
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 21:41:15
TriSec, you do have time to think about this. You have tried to change the organization from within. Perhaps the questions you should ask are you satisfied with the difference that you have made and can you make more of a difference in the future?
Will in Chicago on 07/17/2012 21:41:15
Quote by TriSec:
Opportunity missed.
I wonder if devoting my life to this organization is the right move.
TriSec, you do have time to think about this. You have tried to change the organization from within. Perhaps the questions you should ask are you satisfied with the difference that you have made and can you make more of a difference in the future?
Comment by TriSec on 07/17/2012 21:44:19
Sorry, just saw the link.
Remember that BSA's National Headquarters is based in Irving, TX....with all that location implies. Also, many churches have indigenous youth groups, but two do not- the Methodists, and the Mormons. Both have designated the BSA as their "official" youth program. As such, many of the leadership positions in the BSA are filled by leaders of the various churches, and as such, they make national policy in these matters.
Officially, of course, the BSA welcomes all religions, but two groups are allowed to create their own religious based, exclusionary Scout Troops...Hasidic Jews, and the Church of Latter-Day Saints. (Meaning, anyone can walk up to a troop chartered by any other church or school and join it, but if you want to join the troop in the Mormon temple, you have to be a member of said temple in good standing.)
I suspect there may be a "Great Schism" in the offing. Enough of us at the local levels are fed up with this bullshit. Another point to exploit, the sitting President is the honorary President of the BSA (and always has been), and Congress 're-charters' the BSA every year. (Essentially giving it permission to operate in the US.) So bigotry and hatred is officially sanctioned at all levels.
I say again...I am beginning to doubt my lifelong devotion to this organization. I know what I teach at the local level....but if it's counter to what the kids and leaders see in Boys Life and Scouting magazine....what exactly am I doing here?
TriSec on 07/17/2012 21:44:19
Quote by Raine:
Ok, Tri --- Gonna need a little help here.
They are AFFIRMING the bigotry.
Sorry, just saw the link.
Remember that BSA's National Headquarters is based in Irving, TX....with all that location implies. Also, many churches have indigenous youth groups, but two do not- the Methodists, and the Mormons. Both have designated the BSA as their "official" youth program. As such, many of the leadership positions in the BSA are filled by leaders of the various churches, and as such, they make national policy in these matters.
Officially, of course, the BSA welcomes all religions, but two groups are allowed to create their own religious based, exclusionary Scout Troops...Hasidic Jews, and the Church of Latter-Day Saints. (Meaning, anyone can walk up to a troop chartered by any other church or school and join it, but if you want to join the troop in the Mormon temple, you have to be a member of said temple in good standing.)
I suspect there may be a "Great Schism" in the offing. Enough of us at the local levels are fed up with this bullshit. Another point to exploit, the sitting President is the honorary President of the BSA (and always has been), and Congress 're-charters' the BSA every year. (Essentially giving it permission to operate in the US.) So bigotry and hatred is officially sanctioned at all levels.
I say again...I am beginning to doubt my lifelong devotion to this organization. I know what I teach at the local level....but if it's counter to what the kids and leaders see in Boys Life and Scouting magazine....what exactly am I doing here?
Comment by livingonli on 07/17/2012 21:52:31
livingonli on 07/17/2012 21:52:31
Latest news in the DirecTV-Viacom dispute is that Viacom does seem to be turning back on online access to Viacom content which they shut down within 12 hours after the channels were removed from DirecTV and the latest update on the DirecTV facebook page seems optimistic since they seem to be getting closer so the Viacom channels could be back on DirecTV very soon (even if Comedy Central is the only one I really care about).