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Starting Over
Author: BobR
Date: 11/05/2014 13:42:34
The end result of the elections yesterday turned out even worse (or better, depending on your point of view) than expected. Republicans retook the Senate and shored up their advantage in the House. They won numerous governor's races. How did this happen? Why did this happen?
For months, this election was being sold to us as an indicator of President Obama's approval rating. Never mind that Congress's approval rating (you know - the people actually running for election?) was way lower than the president's. Never mind that taxes are lower than they've ever been, that gas prices are lower, that unemployment is lower than when he took office, that more people than ever have health insurance, that the whole "ebola" infestation never actually occurred. Never mind that anyone with a modicum of sentience knew that it was Republicans in the House not passing any bills and Republicans in the Senate filibustering everything that lied at the root of our dysfunctional government.
Despite all that - either Democrats failed to show up, or moderates voted for more of the same (or worse). If it's the former - all the no-shows deserve what they got. If it's the latter, then Dems are to blame for their bad campaign strategy. They LET Republicans make this election be about president Obama instead of about a do-nothing Congress. They campaigned as Republican-lite; why vote for a cowardly middle of the road candidate when the opponent acts with more conviction?
Some of this could also be blamed on the equally disastrous 2010 election. That saw Republicans take state seats across the country as Democrats stayed home. As a result, in numerous states with Republican-controlled governments, districts were gerrymandered as a result of the 2010 census, and restrictive voter ID laws were enacted, with an eye towards creating a permanent Republican majority.
So as the smoke clears - who exactly did the voters put into office? In some cases - outright criminals. House Rep Michael Grimm (R-NY) is under indictment. GA governor Nathan Deal has lawsuits pending against him and serious ethics investigations. Wisconsin governor Scott Walker is under investigation by prosecuters. And let's not forget Michigan governor Rick Snyder who used an unconstitutional state statute to boot duly elected city officials across the state, and install his own cronies. Republicans love to toss around the phrase "Chicago-style politics", but really - Democrats have nothing on the Republicans when it comes to sleaze and corruption.
Besides the House, Senate, and governor races, there were numerous ballot initiatives as well - some good... some bad. Increases in state minimum wages were approved in all states where they were on the ballot: Arkansas, Illinois, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska. To me, this says that Republicans better rethink their position on this when (if) it comes up for a vote in Congress. Marijuana use (either personal or medical) passed in all the states where it was on the ballot: Alaska, DC, Florida, and Oregon.
Votes regarding abortion were a mixed bag - Colorado and North Dakota both shot down initiatives aimed at making abortion more difficult (or impossible). Tennessee, on the other hand, decided to add an amendment to their state constitution saying that state law trumps federal law on abortion and moneys used to pay for them. Illinois voters let their state representatives know that they want health care insurance to pay for contraception if the plan covers other prescriptions.
There were some other stupid initiatives as well. In Alabama, it was to reinforce half of the 2nd amendment (predictably, the "militia" part was not included). In Arizona, what should have been named the "Cliven Bundy" bill passed (it would "have the effect of allowing the state to restrict the state and all local governments from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with a federal action or program that is not consistent with the Constitution of the United States. The state's authority is exercised if the state passes an initiative, referendum, bill, or pursues any other available legal remedy")
Georgia stupidly amended their state constitution to prevent the maximum income tax rate from ever being increased (good luck with your budgets, GA). And finally - Missouri decided they did not want early voting. Maybe it was the way they worded it:
ya think?
So where do we go from here? I personally feel about the same as I did after the 2004 election when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House. Two years later voters decided they had had enough and the Democrats retook both houses. What this means is that Republicans will actually have to govern. They have to send bills to the White House that the president will be willing to sign, without "poison pill" inclusions. Hopefully, Harry Reid will be willing to use the filibuster as much as the Republicans did. Republicans will likely blame the president for "going against the mandate of the people", but hopefully the media will report the truth, and the electorate will pay attention.
Yeah, that's a lot of "hopefully" on my part.
It's two years until 2016. The Republicans still don't have anyone of presidential calibre. Hillary Clinton looks like a shoo-in IF she decides to run, but there are other choices as well. Large turnouts favor the Democrats, and we also have 2 years to get those voter ID laws and gerrymandered maps in front of the courts and hopefully overturned. This has already occurred in VA, which could be a model for other states as well. And come 2020, voters need to be reminded of the results of 2010, because there will be another census, and it would be in the best interests of Democrats if Republicans weren't able to gerrymander the districts again.
This is now our reality, and we have to live in it. We have two years to 2016 and 6 years to 2020. We need to be prepared for it. It's not over - it's just starting. Let's get busy.
For months, this election was being sold to us as an indicator of President Obama's approval rating. Never mind that Congress's approval rating (you know - the people actually running for election?) was way lower than the president's. Never mind that taxes are lower than they've ever been, that gas prices are lower, that unemployment is lower than when he took office, that more people than ever have health insurance, that the whole "ebola" infestation never actually occurred. Never mind that anyone with a modicum of sentience knew that it was Republicans in the House not passing any bills and Republicans in the Senate filibustering everything that lied at the root of our dysfunctional government.
Despite all that - either Democrats failed to show up, or moderates voted for more of the same (or worse). If it's the former - all the no-shows deserve what they got. If it's the latter, then Dems are to blame for their bad campaign strategy. They LET Republicans make this election be about president Obama instead of about a do-nothing Congress. They campaigned as Republican-lite; why vote for a cowardly middle of the road candidate when the opponent acts with more conviction?
Some of this could also be blamed on the equally disastrous 2010 election. That saw Republicans take state seats across the country as Democrats stayed home. As a result, in numerous states with Republican-controlled governments, districts were gerrymandered as a result of the 2010 census, and restrictive voter ID laws were enacted, with an eye towards creating a permanent Republican majority.
So as the smoke clears - who exactly did the voters put into office? In some cases - outright criminals. House Rep Michael Grimm (R-NY) is under indictment. GA governor Nathan Deal has lawsuits pending against him and serious ethics investigations. Wisconsin governor Scott Walker is under investigation by prosecuters. And let's not forget Michigan governor Rick Snyder who used an unconstitutional state statute to boot duly elected city officials across the state, and install his own cronies. Republicans love to toss around the phrase "Chicago-style politics", but really - Democrats have nothing on the Republicans when it comes to sleaze and corruption.
Besides the House, Senate, and governor races, there were numerous ballot initiatives as well - some good... some bad. Increases in state minimum wages were approved in all states where they were on the ballot: Arkansas, Illinois, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska. To me, this says that Republicans better rethink their position on this when (if) it comes up for a vote in Congress. Marijuana use (either personal or medical) passed in all the states where it was on the ballot: Alaska, DC, Florida, and Oregon.
Votes regarding abortion were a mixed bag - Colorado and North Dakota both shot down initiatives aimed at making abortion more difficult (or impossible). Tennessee, on the other hand, decided to add an amendment to their state constitution saying that state law trumps federal law on abortion and moneys used to pay for them. Illinois voters let their state representatives know that they want health care insurance to pay for contraception if the plan covers other prescriptions.
There were some other stupid initiatives as well. In Alabama, it was to reinforce half of the 2nd amendment (predictably, the "militia" part was not included). In Arizona, what should have been named the "Cliven Bundy" bill passed (it would "have the effect of allowing the state to restrict the state and all local governments from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with a federal action or program that is not consistent with the Constitution of the United States. The state's authority is exercised if the state passes an initiative, referendum, bill, or pursues any other available legal remedy")
Georgia stupidly amended their state constitution to prevent the maximum income tax rate from ever being increased (good luck with your budgets, GA). And finally - Missouri decided they did not want early voting. Maybe it was the way they worded it:
Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to permit voting in person or by mail for a period of six business days prior to and including the Wednesday before the Election Day in all general elections?
State governmental entities estimated startup costs of about $2 million and costs to reimburse local election authorities of at least $100,000 per election. Local election authorities estimated higher reimbursable costs per election. Those costs will depend on the compensation, staffing, and, planning decisions of election authorities with the total costs being unknown.
ya think?
So where do we go from here? I personally feel about the same as I did after the 2004 election when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House. Two years later voters decided they had had enough and the Democrats retook both houses. What this means is that Republicans will actually have to govern. They have to send bills to the White House that the president will be willing to sign, without "poison pill" inclusions. Hopefully, Harry Reid will be willing to use the filibuster as much as the Republicans did. Republicans will likely blame the president for "going against the mandate of the people", but hopefully the media will report the truth, and the electorate will pay attention.
Yeah, that's a lot of "hopefully" on my part.
It's two years until 2016. The Republicans still don't have anyone of presidential calibre. Hillary Clinton looks like a shoo-in IF she decides to run, but there are other choices as well. Large turnouts favor the Democrats, and we also have 2 years to get those voter ID laws and gerrymandered maps in front of the courts and hopefully overturned. This has already occurred in VA, which could be a model for other states as well. And come 2020, voters need to be reminded of the results of 2010, because there will be another census, and it would be in the best interests of Democrats if Republicans weren't able to gerrymander the districts again.
This is now our reality, and we have to live in it. We have two years to 2016 and 6 years to 2020. We need to be prepared for it. It's not over - it's just starting. Let's get busy.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 13:48:42
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 13:48:42
Morning :hug:
I'm so depressed this morning I'm not even sure pictures of cute baby animals could perk me up. Wish I could be as hopeful about 2016 as ya'll are. Right now its all I can do to keep from crying and building a blanket fort in my office.
I'm so depressed this morning I'm not even sure pictures of cute baby animals could perk me up. Wish I could be as hopeful about 2016 as ya'll are. Right now its all I can do to keep from crying and building a blanket fort in my office.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 11/05/2014 13:49:51
velveeta jones on 11/05/2014 13:49:51
I'm tired of starting over..... probably throwing in the towel at this point. I believe that most Americans believe in the democratic principles of freedom, equality, fairness and compassion with a government that is ruled by the PEOPLE, but until we can get rid of Citizens United and the personal agendas of the ultra rich - we will never win. There just aren't enough "Obama's" to fill every office.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 13:50:59
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 13:50:59
Everyone in Florida needs to die in a fire. This would do a couple of things; it would get rid of a lot of stupid people and a good portion of rural Florida fall back into its natural state since there wouldn't stupid people.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:05:14
Well, at least there's a few upsides. Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Alaska governors races. Colorado too, but that's just okay because Hickenlooper isn't great just tolerable I guess.
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:05:14
Well, at least there's a few upsides. Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Alaska governors races. Colorado too, but that's just okay because Hickenlooper isn't great just tolerable I guess.
Comment by 
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:05:33
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:05:33
One thing I know, I do underdog really well. Once these wounds heal, I'm coming back.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:17:45
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:17:45
The filibuster is gone on day one.
No matter, Harry Reid has GOT TO GO. I'm sorry, he's been nothing but cowardly since he's been in the top spot. Harry should have told the likes of McConnell and Cruz to pound sand and at least make it a little more difficult for them to obstruct. Because no matter if he did or not, see sentence one. These TeaTards aren't going to put up with any obstruction from our side.
And we HAVE to find someone better than Hillary. NO CORPORATISTS, right or left. If they're going to whine LIBERAL then give them a real liberal to whine about.
Waiting for the first Fox News explosion following the first veto or signing statement......
No matter, Harry Reid has GOT TO GO. I'm sorry, he's been nothing but cowardly since he's been in the top spot. Harry should have told the likes of McConnell and Cruz to pound sand and at least make it a little more difficult for them to obstruct. Because no matter if he did or not, see sentence one. These TeaTards aren't going to put up with any obstruction from our side.
And we HAVE to find someone better than Hillary. NO CORPORATISTS, right or left. If they're going to whine LIBERAL then give them a real liberal to whine about.
Waiting for the first Fox News explosion following the first veto or signing statement......
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:18:45
I'd be just as happy if Bugs Bunny cut it loose.
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:18:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Everyone in Florida needs to die in a fire. This would do a couple of things; it would get rid of a lot of stupid people and a good portion of rural Florida fall back into its natural state since there wouldn't stupid people.
I'd be just as happy if Bugs Bunny cut it loose.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 14:19:23
hon, like Vel I'm so tired of starting over. They have a highly viewed propoganda status, they are aggressive in messaging, they have billions of dollars. We have whiney uber progressives who pitch a fucking tantrum when they don't get their way and don't vote. We have few aggressive Dems in office that make news for good reasons. We apparently suck at messaging. And we have to use our money to actually live day to day not pay for political ads.
6 years ago I thought maybe things were turning around but they've got people believing so hard that helping rich people is more important they helping themselves I'm spiraling into a very dark place.
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 14:19:23
Quote by Raine:
One thing I know, I do underdog really well. Once these wounds heal, I'm coming back.
hon, like Vel I'm so tired of starting over. They have a highly viewed propoganda status, they are aggressive in messaging, they have billions of dollars. We have whiney uber progressives who pitch a fucking tantrum when they don't get their way and don't vote. We have few aggressive Dems in office that make news for good reasons. We apparently suck at messaging. And we have to use our money to actually live day to day not pay for political ads.
6 years ago I thought maybe things were turning around but they've got people believing so hard that helping rich people is more important they helping themselves I'm spiraling into a very dark place.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:22:37
Yep.
Tho to be fair we should just cut off the whole fucking South. And Maine, and Wisconsin.
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:22:37
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:
Everyone in Florida needs to die in a fire. This would do a couple of things; it would get rid of a lot of stupid people and a good portion of rural Florida fall back into its natural state since there wouldn't stupid people.
I'd be just as happy if Bugs Bunny cut it loose.
Yep.
Tho to be fair we should just cut off the whole fucking South. And Maine, and Wisconsin.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:25:31
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:25:31
One good thing that happened here in the People's Republic of MA is that the ballot question for mandatory sick leave passed. One hour per 30 hours worked up to a maximum of 40, for any place with 11 or more employees. Take THAT WalFart.
I take the victory of Charlie Baker as totally the fault of the Democratic hierarchy feeling that Coakley "has paid her dues" even though she let Scott Brown walk all over her. Since I don't think he has the Presidential aspirations of Rmoney I'm hopeful he will govern as our other "Republicans" like Weld and Celucci.
I take the victory of Charlie Baker as totally the fault of the Democratic hierarchy feeling that Coakley "has paid her dues" even though she let Scott Brown walk all over her. Since I don't think he has the Presidential aspirations of Rmoney I'm hopeful he will govern as our other "Republicans" like Weld and Celucci.
Comment by 
BobR on 11/05/2014 14:31:18
It's ALWAYS about starting over. There is no such thing as a permanent majority. This cycle it was mostly red states having Senate races, so the results were somewhat expected. In 2016, there will be a president on the ballot and a lot of blue state senate seats up, and of course - 2 years of Republican congressional rule for the Republicans to run on (or - more accurately - from)
BobR on 11/05/2014 14:31:18
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
One thing I know, I do underdog really well. Once these wounds heal, I'm coming back.
hon, like Vel I'm so tired of starting over. They have a highly viewed propoganda status, they are aggressive in messaging, they have billions of dollars. We have whiney uber progressives who pitch a fucking tantrum when they don't get their way and don't vote. We have few aggressive Dems in office that make news for good reasons. We apparently suck at messaging. And we have to use our money to actually live day to day not pay for political ads.
6 years ago I thought maybe things were turning around but they've got people believing so hard that helping rich people is more important they helping themselves I'm spiraling into a very dark place.
It's ALWAYS about starting over. There is no such thing as a permanent majority. This cycle it was mostly red states having Senate races, so the results were somewhat expected. In 2016, there will be a president on the ballot and a lot of blue state senate seats up, and of course - 2 years of Republican congressional rule for the Republicans to run on (or - more accurately - from)
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 14:32:53
Trojan, do you remember what happened when the Democratic party nominated a real liberal? I'll give you a hint, Reagan won 49 states.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 14:32:53
Quote by trojanrabbit:
The filibuster is gone on day one.
No matter, Harry Reid has GOT TO GO. I'm sorry, he's been nothing but cowardly since he's been in the top spot. Harry should have told the likes of McConnell and Cruz to pound sand and at least make it a little more difficult for them to obstruct. Because no matter if he did or not, see sentence one. These TeaTards aren't going to put up with any obstruction from our side.
And we HAVE to find someone better than Hillary. NO CORPORATISTS, right or left. If they're going to whine LIBERAL then give them a real liberal to whine about.
Waiting for the first Fox News explosion following the first veto or signing statement......
Trojan, do you remember what happened when the Democratic party nominated a real liberal? I'll give you a hint, Reagan won 49 states.
Comment by velveeta jones on 11/05/2014 14:35:03
velveeta jones on 11/05/2014 14:35:03
Dems suck for not sticking with Obama - who DID major accomplishments despite obstruction - and for that, they deserved to lose. Too much whining, not enough fighting. I agree, Harry Reid should have gone awhile ago. We need someone with a fucking backbone!
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 14:35:32
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:35:32
The head of the DNC needs to go.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 14:36:15
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:36:15
We flailed in 2010 and 2014… did well in 2008 and 2012 -- you know when the black guy was running. Just saying'.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 14:38:19
Exactly.
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:38:19
Quote by velveeta jones:
Dems suck for not sticking with Obama - who DID major accomplishments despite obstruction - and for that, they deserved to lose. Too much whining, not enough fighting. I agree, Harry Reid should have gone awhile ago. We need someone with a fucking backbone!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:43:22
I suppose what I really want is an educated electorate, when all we get is an infromed one
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 14:43:22
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by trojanrabbit:
The filibuster is gone on day one.
No matter, Harry Reid has GOT TO GO. I'm sorry, he's been nothing but cowardly since he's been in the top spot. Harry should have told the likes of McConnell and Cruz to pound sand and at least make it a little more difficult for them to obstruct. Because no matter if he did or not, see sentence one. These TeaTards aren't going to put up with any obstruction from our side.
And we HAVE to find someone better than Hillary. NO CORPORATISTS, right or left. If they're going to whine LIBERAL then give them a real liberal to whine about.
Waiting for the first Fox News explosion following the first veto or signing statement......
Trojan, do you remember what happened when the Democratic party nominated a real liberal? I'll give you a hint, Reagan won 49 states.
I suppose what I really want is an educated electorate, when all we get is an infromed one
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 14:44:41
no, logically I know this.
It should not be this hard to get actual good people (from either side) elected. Warner's fight should not have been that difficult, yeah he's a blue dog and I don't like some of what he's doing but I think he's a good person. Gillespie is not, he's no morals or ethics. He should not have come that close. And Comstock is a nightmare!
I still don't know who got elected to my city council, there are have been no results posted anywhere that I can find.
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 14:44:41
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
One thing I know, I do underdog really well. Once these wounds heal, I'm coming back.
hon, like Vel I'm so tired of starting over. They have a highly viewed propoganda status, they are aggressive in messaging, they have billions of dollars. We have whiney uber progressives who pitch a fucking tantrum when they don't get their way and don't vote. We have few aggressive Dems in office that make news for good reasons. We apparently suck at messaging. And we have to use our money to actually live day to day not pay for political ads.
6 years ago I thought maybe things were turning around but they've got people believing so hard that helping rich people is more important they helping themselves I'm spiraling into a very dark place.
It's ALWAYS about starting over. There is no such thing as a permanent majority. This cycle it was mostly red states having Senate races, so the results were somewhat expected. In 2016, there will be a president on the ballot and a lot of blue state senate seats up, and of course - 2 years of Republican congressional rule for the Republicans to run on (or - more accurately - from)
no, logically I know this.
It should not be this hard to get actual good people (from either side) elected. Warner's fight should not have been that difficult, yeah he's a blue dog and I don't like some of what he's doing but I think he's a good person. Gillespie is not, he's no morals or ethics. He should not have come that close. And Comstock is a nightmare!
I still don't know who got elected to my city council, there are have been no results posted anywhere that I can find.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:49:29
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 14:49:29
Say I have a question about the MJ referendum down there in DC. Did they just legalize recreational use, or did they also legalize sale for recreational use?
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 14:50:34
Recreational use. No sales.
You will be able to grow your own in DC.
Raine on 11/05/2014 14:50:34
Quote by Scoopster:
Say I have a question about the MJ referendum down there in DC. Did they just legalize recreational use, or did they also legalize sale for recreational use?
Recreational use. No sales.
You will be able to grow your own in DC.
Comment by BobR on 11/05/2014 14:58:10
This is what makes me think about running every time this happens. Of course - we live in an area where we have good candidates, so it doesn't make sense for me to try.
BobR on 11/05/2014 14:58:10
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
One thing I know, I do underdog really well. Once these wounds heal, I'm coming back.
hon, like Vel I'm so tired of starting over. They have a highly viewed propoganda status, they are aggressive in messaging, they have billions of dollars. We have whiney uber progressives who pitch a fucking tantrum when they don't get their way and don't vote. We have few aggressive Dems in office that make news for good reasons. We apparently suck at messaging. And we have to use our money to actually live day to day not pay for political ads.
6 years ago I thought maybe things were turning around but they've got people believing so hard that helping rich people is more important they helping themselves I'm spiraling into a very dark place.
It's ALWAYS about starting over. There is no such thing as a permanent majority. This cycle it was mostly red states having Senate races, so the results were somewhat expected. In 2016, there will be a president on the ballot and a lot of blue state senate seats up, and of course - 2 years of Republican congressional rule for the Republicans to run on (or - more accurately - from)
no, logically I know this.
It should not be this hard to get actual good people (from either side) elected. Warner's fight should not have been that difficult, yeah he's a blue dog and I don't like some of what he's doing but I think he's a good person. Gillespie is not, he's no morals or ethics. He should not have come that close. And Comstock is a nightmare!
I still don't know who got elected to my city council, there are have been no results posted anywhere that I can find.
This is what makes me think about running every time this happens. Of course - we live in an area where we have good candidates, so it doesn't make sense for me to try.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:11:07
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:11:07
I think this was the theme for Posiden Adventure 2. Also personal note - I used to be able to play that on the flute.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 15:16:21
There was a sequel?!?!
Raine on 11/05/2014 15:16:21
Quote by wickedpam:
I think this was the theme for Posiden Adventure 2. Also personal note - I used to be able to play that on the flute.
There was a sequel?!?!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:20:03
There was, with Michael Caine and Sally Fields. It was bad.
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:20:03
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I think this was the theme for Posiden Adventure 2. Also personal note - I used to be able to play that on the flute.
There was a sequel?!?!
There was, with Michael Caine and Sally Fields. It was bad.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 15:21:06
Beyond the Posiden Adventure.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 15:21:06
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I think this was the theme for Posiden Adventure 2. Also personal note - I used to be able to play that on the flute.
There was a sequel?!?!
Beyond the Posiden Adventure.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 15:33:13
Raine on 11/05/2014 15:33:13
The morning after was the Theme to the Poseidon Adventure. This is one of the weirder ditches we have been in… 
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:36:53
must have blended the 2 movies (how I'll never know)
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 15:36:53
Quote by Raine:
The morning after was the Theme to the Poseidon Adventure. This is one of the weirder ditches we have been in…
must have blended the 2 movies (how I'll never know)
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 15:39:10
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 15:39:10
Gonna try to link some more upbeat & positive news today..
Researchers at UTexas have potentially developed an inhalable vaccine to the Ebola virus
Researchers at UTexas have potentially developed an inhalable vaccine to the Ebola virus
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/05/2014 15:48:32
TriSec on 11/05/2014 15:48:32
Charlie Fucking Baker.
At least he's got two things Mitt never had. He's actually from Massachusetts, and he actually wants to be governor. Maybe that will help.
At least he's got two things Mitt never had. He's actually from Massachusetts, and he actually wants to be governor. Maybe that will help.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 15:49:26
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 15:49:26
Oh yeah, my old keyboard at home is dying. After about 8 years of heavy use, much of that for gaming, several of the keys have stopped working properly. I should also probably replace the mouse, because it's much older, but at least it still functions well.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 15:59:18
I actually remember that Keyboard. YOu posted here or on the other blog when you bought it!
Know it is official. We are all old friends.
Raine on 11/05/2014 15:59:18
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah, my old keyboard at home is dying. After about 8 years of heavy use, much of that for gaming, several of the keys have stopped working properly. I should also probably replace the mouse, because it's much older, but at least it still functions well.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
Know it is official. We are all old friends.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:01:33
There is a company that makes USB compliant IBM style keyboards. They use the actual IBM specs! They aren't cheap, but totally worth it. Those IBM keyboards are like old Western Electric phones, built to last.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:01:33
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah, my old keyboard at home is dying. After about 8 years of heavy use, much of that for gaming, several of the keys have stopped working properly. I should also probably replace the mouse, because it's much older, but at least it still functions well.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
There is a company that makes USB compliant IBM style keyboards. They use the actual IBM specs! They aren't cheap, but totally worth it. Those IBM keyboards are like old Western Electric phones, built to last.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:03:18
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:03:18
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 16:04:59
Raine on 11/05/2014 16:04:59
Carlos is hysterical this morning!! 
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 16:07:16
Oh yeah there's actually quite a few manufacturers like that (both small companies and larger general enthusiast/gaming parts companies). Mechanical keyboards have really come back in a big way in the gaming world both because they're physically more durable and because the keypress function is that vital (at least it is if you're hardcore or competitive).
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 16:07:16
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah, my old keyboard at home is dying. After about 8 years of heavy use, much of that for gaming, several of the keys have stopped working properly. I should also probably replace the mouse, because it's much older, but at least it still functions well.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
There is a company that makes USB compliant IBM style keyboards. They use the actual IBM specs! They aren't cheap, but totally worth it. Those IBM keyboards are like old Western Electric phones, built to last.
Oh yeah there's actually quite a few manufacturers like that (both small companies and larger general enthusiast/gaming parts companies). Mechanical keyboards have really come back in a big way in the gaming world both because they're physically more durable and because the keypress function is that vital (at least it is if you're hardcore or competitive).
Comment by BobR on 11/05/2014 16:14:53
BobR on 11/05/2014 16:14:53
Comment by TriSec on 11/05/2014 16:14:58
TriSec on 11/05/2014 16:14:58
I found my old Cynic Suit this morning. still fits, too.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 16:16:29
Indeed!
I told you that your blog gave me a lot of comfort this morning in the break room.
Raine on 11/05/2014 16:16:29
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This was good.
He made some of the same points I did
I told you that your blog gave me a lot of comfort this morning in the break room.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:26:49
I wouldn't limit it to just gaming, Scoop. Anyone who needs a keyboard that gets heavy use should get one. I love the tactile feel of those keyboards too.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:26:49
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah, my old keyboard at home is dying. After about 8 years of heavy use, much of that for gaming, several of the keys have stopped working properly. I should also probably replace the mouse, because it's much older, but at least it still functions well.
Anyways, I'm looking into a mechanical gaming keyboard. Yeah, like the old IBM clickity-clack ones. Not sure if any of you guys have experience with these or not, but I'm looking for recommendations. Already know it's gonna cost a decent amount, but I'm trying not to go overboard.
There is a company that makes USB compliant IBM style keyboards. They use the actual IBM specs! They aren't cheap, but totally worth it. Those IBM keyboards are like old Western Electric phones, built to last.
Oh yeah there's actually quite a few manufacturers like that (both small companies and larger general enthusiast/gaming parts companies). Mechanical keyboards have really come back in a big way in the gaming world both because they're physically more durable and because the keypress function is that vital (at least it is if you're hardcore or competitive).
I wouldn't limit it to just gaming, Scoop. Anyone who needs a keyboard that gets heavy use should get one. I love the tactile feel of those keyboards too.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:53:01
Everyones a little bummed this morning. I give you baby bat burritos!
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 16:53:01
Everyones a little bummed this morning. I give you baby bat burritos!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 17:10:59
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 17:10:59
Baby bat burritos broke blog?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 17:11:33
doubt it - just working
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 17:11:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Baby bat burritos broke blog?
doubt it - just working
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 17:27:09
Aren't the baby bat burritos adorable?
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 17:27:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Baby bat burritos broke blog?
doubt it - just working
Aren't the baby bat burritos adorable?
Comment by TriSec on 11/05/2014 17:28:18
TriSec on 11/05/2014 17:28:18
So, as it turns out, I'm Cubmaster of the Jewish pack in town. (Go figure). We planned our December meeting this week, and with a Jewish majority, a closeted Muslim, at least one Hindu, and surprisingly few Christians...we're having a "Holiday" meeting.
Yes, I do hate America. Sorry, Bill.
Yes, I do hate America. Sorry, Bill.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 17:48:12
I'm not so much for bats - useful creatures but not really that cute to me
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 17:48:12
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Baby bat burritos broke blog?
doubt it - just working
Aren't the baby bat burritos adorable?
I'm not so much for bats - useful creatures but not really that cute to me
Comment by TriSec on 11/05/2014 18:12:24
TriSec on 11/05/2014 18:12:24
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 18:13:41
My polling place is an Asian American outreach center.
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 18:13:41
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
My polling place is an Asian American outreach center.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 18:14:40
There are tons of voting stations here that are in churches. I've always found it a bit off. Before I moved to Florida I always voted in schools.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 18:14:40
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
There are tons of voting stations here that are in churches. I've always found it a bit off. Before I moved to Florida I always voted in schools.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 18:40:35
Our voting place is the town hall, which used to be a school as the downstairs has a gym in it.
trojanrabbit on 11/05/2014 18:40:35
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
Our voting place is the town hall, which used to be a school as the downstairs has a gym in it.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 18:55:52
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 18:55:52
I need some synth.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 19:10:44
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 19:10:44
The Denver Post has called the governor's race in Colorado for Hickenlooper. 
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 19:11:11
First time I ever saw that was in Georgia. It is weird to me.
We vote in the Rec Center that is attached to the elementary school.
Raine on 11/05/2014 19:11:11
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
We vote in the Rec Center that is attached to the elementary school.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 19:14:09
Raine on 11/05/2014 19:14:09
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 19:16:02
my was an elementary school gym
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 19:16:02
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
my was an elementary school gym
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 19:19:04
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 19:19:04
To actually answer Tri's question on where I voted, it was at the lye-berry. That is where early voting happens.
Comment by BobR on 11/05/2014 19:19:51
We vote at a school. When we lived in Atlanta, we voted at the library. At one point when I lived in the Atlanta suburbs, I voted at a church. Every voter had to walk past pictures, posters, literature that were essentially anti-abortion. I was appalled.
BobR on 11/05/2014 19:19:51
Quote by TriSec:
Random thought- where did everyone vote yesterday? I mean what kind of building? I vote at Government Center, essentially an annex of city hall.
I ask because I justheard on one of my podcasts that a minister acquaintence of mine voted in a church in PA...and to reach the polls they were routed through the main entry hall (full of Christian literature), by a signboard full of Bible verses, and past the Sanctuary to reach the voting booths.
This strikes me as wrong.
We vote at a school. When we lived in Atlanta, we voted at the library. At one point when I lived in the Atlanta suburbs, I voted at a church. Every voter had to walk past pictures, posters, literature that were essentially anti-abortion. I was appalled.
Comment by TriSec on 11/05/2014 19:36:52
TriSec on 11/05/2014 19:36:52
That's my point exactly. Why iis this even remotely OK?
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 19:45:25
If I remember correctly Election day used to be a day off from school so people could vote.
Raine on 11/05/2014 19:45:25
Quote by TriSec:
That's my point exactly. Why iis this even remotely OK?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 19:50:09
Bingo! School was closed. They used the all-purpose room of Parkwood Elementary. School would be closed every two years for elections.
Mondobubba on 11/05/2014 19:50:09
Quote by Raine:If I remember correctly Election day used to be a day off from school so people could vote.Quote by TriSec:
That's my point exactly. Why iis this even remotely OK?
Bingo! School was closed. They used the all-purpose room of Parkwood Elementary. School would be closed every two years for elections.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 19:52:36
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 19:52:36
Aaaaaand Foley finally concedes. Malloy will continue as governor of Connecticut.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:05:53
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:05:53
I hear Obama is doing a presser right now. Really hoping he doesn't capitulate to these nitwits.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:12:18
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:12:18
I like what he is saying, I am really wishing I had a nerd gun for the stupid phucking idiotic questions from the stupid plucking idiotic press.
He just basically said he WILL use the Veto pen!
He just basically said he WILL use the Veto pen!
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:15:07
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:15:07
FUCK. HE just asked for a AUMF against ISIL.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:16:33
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:16:33
I continue to believe that we are more than just the Red and Blue states: We are the United States.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:16:53
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:16:53
Here we go, idiocracy time.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:19:48
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:19:48
Yup, he's going to start Vetoing shit.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:22:49
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:22:49
Obama is not changing his principles. He is sticking to everything he has always said. CApitalizing on What McConnell said last night when he said it is time to work together.
(It's basically throwing turlte's shit back into his face)
(It's basically throwing turlte's shit back into his face)
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:23:18
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:23:18
Obama wants that infrastructure money.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:28:24
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:28:24
Before the end of the year, he will take any executive actions he can take regarding immigration. Expects the GOP to get it together and pass a bill.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:29:07
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:29:07
He's not going to wait. Obama seems to be going full tilt with his use of the executive pen.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:30:31
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:30:31
You have to give him credit. He knows how to keep his cool when dealing with fuckwits.
And by that I mean the White House Press Corps.
And by that I mean the White House Press Corps.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:30:43
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:30:43
Interesting question from Jansing: 'why does the electorate punish the D more than the DEms by far?' O: it's your job to figure that one out. (paraphrasing)
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:34:33
He's saying some very important things.
He's telling the GOP majority that he is acting without them. He wants that immigration bill out of the damn house and to his desk.
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:34:33
Quote by Scoopster:
You have to give him credit. He knows how to keep his cool when dealing with fuckwits.
And by that I mean the White House Press Corps.
He's telling the GOP majority that he is acting without them. He wants that immigration bill out of the damn house and to his desk.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:36:18
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:36:18
I really need Obama's anger translator right now.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:37:06
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:37:06
'Now let's see if they are serious about compromising and working together.'
BOOM.
BOOM.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:39:18
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:39:18
AUMF talk. 
I still hold out hope for no soldiers on the ground.
I still hold out hope for no soldiers on the ground.
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/05/2014 20:41:42
livingonli on 11/05/2014 20:41:42
I voted at a church. It's a Lutheran Church that has some Korean text at the entrance below the name of the church. No anti-abortion tracks posted. When I voted in the primary, there was an AA meeting going that I walked past.
I worked late last night and had trouble going to sleep this morning and then ended up sleeping late. Good thing I am off today. One of my facebook friends (who is actually a Marxist) posted something that indicated that voting turnout in this election was only 37% which was even lower than the 41-42% turnout in 2010. Contrast that to when Obama was elected in 2008, which was the highest voter turnout in a Presidential election since 1960 since we were lucky in the last presidential elections if turnout hit 50%. I wonder what effect the voter suppression efforts that have been put in place by state GOP's have had on turnout as well.
I worked late last night and had trouble going to sleep this morning and then ended up sleeping late. Good thing I am off today. One of my facebook friends (who is actually a Marxist) posted something that indicated that voting turnout in this election was only 37% which was even lower than the 41-42% turnout in 2010. Contrast that to when Obama was elected in 2008, which was the highest voter turnout in a Presidential election since 1960 since we were lucky in the last presidential elections if turnout hit 50%. I wonder what effect the voter suppression efforts that have been put in place by state GOP's have had on turnout as well.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:45:49
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:45:49
I hadn't been listening (my computer's audio is busted) but I hooked up the phone to my speakers and thankfully NPR is broadcasting the presser.
I have to say hearing Obama talk is quite therapeutic right now.
I have to say hearing Obama talk is quite therapeutic right now.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:49:59
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 20:49:59
Who the fuck is this guy?
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:50:34
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:50:34
Oh Obama found a new cat toy to replace Toad.
Ed Henry.
Ed Henry.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:50:52
Ed Henry.
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:50:52
Quote by Scoopster:
Who the fuck is this guy?
Ed Henry.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:51:39
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:51:39
O just about lost his temper.
He is not having this GOP shit anymore.
He is not having this GOP shit anymore.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:55:27
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:55:27
On the ACA: The LAW WORKS.
HE will veto any repeal.
HE will veto any repeal.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:56:53
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:56:53
BOOM!
The mandate is a line I won;t cross. Romney is proof of that.
The mandate is a line I won;t cross. Romney is proof of that.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 20:57:28
Raine on 11/05/2014 20:57:28
the ACA saved 180 BILLION dollars to the federal government and Medicare.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 20:59:32
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 20:59:32
is the douchbag talking now from fox?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 21:06:38
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 21:06:38
what the hell is this medical device tax thing this guy keeps harping on about
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 21:10:16
OPINION piece.
Raine on 11/05/2014 21:10:16
Quote by wickedpam:
what the hell is this medical device tax thing this guy keeps harping on about
OPINION piece.
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 21:11:20
Wonk article.
Raine on 11/05/2014 21:11:20
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
what the hell is this medical device tax thing this guy keeps harping on about
OPINION piece.
Wonk article.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/05/2014 21:13:47
skimmed it - doesn't sound any different then any other business who's whining cause they have pay a tax and now punishing people by outsourcing
wickedpam on 11/05/2014 21:13:47
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
what the hell is this medical device tax thing this guy keeps harping on about
OPINION piece.
skimmed it - doesn't sound any different then any other business who's whining cause they have pay a tax and now punishing people by outsourcing
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 21:17:49
Raine on 11/05/2014 21:17:49
'letting John Boehner beat me at golf…"
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 21:23:17
Raine on 11/05/2014 21:23:17
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
what the hell is this medical device tax thing this guy keeps harping on about
OPINION piece.
skimmed it - doesn't sound any different then any other business who's whining cause they have pay a tax and now punishing people by outsourcing
Comment by Scoopster on 11/05/2014 21:23:35
Scoopster on 11/05/2014 21:23:35
I will take liberty with that closing remark, Mr. President. People were not restless AT ALL. If they were then 2/3 of the fucking country WOULDN'T HAVE STAYED HOME FROM THE POLLS AND LET THE LOONIES WIN!
Comment by Raine on 11/05/2014 23:56:14
And --I hope in 10 years from now I can say I remember the one you bought 18 years ago!!! 
Raine on 11/05/2014 23:56:14
Quote by Scoopster:
New keyboard is on the way!
Comment by Scoopster on 11/06/2014 13:59:40
Scoopster on 11/06/2014 13:59:40
Quote by Raine:And --I hope in 10 years from now I can say I remember the one you bought 18 years ago!!!Quote by Scoopster:
New keyboard is on the way!