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Independence Day
Author: BobR
Date: 07/04/2008 04:40:37
"When in the Course of human events...."
These infamous words begin one of the most infamous documents in the history of mankind. The sheer audacity of a group of men in a rustic colony of the mightiest empire on earth to create a new country from scratch - designed from the bottom up - was breathtaking for its time. Before they could create a new country, however, they had to sever themselves from their existing overseas sovereign. Beginning in the late spring of 1776, they began to craft the document to do just that.
Oddly enough, the document was finalized and agreed upon on July 2nd. John Adams thought that July 2nd would be the day forever remembered in celebration:
Is that such a bad thing? Countries have been declaring their independence all around the world for centuries. What makes ours so special?
Perhaps because it was one of the first, upon which many others have been modeled. As recently as June 21st of this year, the tiny island of Forvik (population: 1) declared independence from the British government. Some of the wording should seem very familiar, such as:
The African country of Liberia was created by freed slaves from America. Besides borrowing names from America's founding fathers to name their cities, they also borrowed from our second-most hallowed governmental document when creating their own:
And while it is a wonderful thing that a country was formed by freed slaves, let us not forget that when the Declaration of Independence was written, not all men WERE created equal. Until the 13th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified, slavery was legal, and slaves only counted as 3/5 of a person. Perhaps that's why they named their country Liberia, based on the word "liberty".
However, all change requires a first step, and the first step taken 232 years ago has taken us where we are today, where - despite all its imperfections and imperfect leaders and bumps along the way - we've got a pretty good country. So let's take one more look at the document our forefathers created, who's actions have inspired generations around the world to believe that liberty and independence are possible:
=====================================
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
=====================================
Happy Birthday America... :party:
These infamous words begin one of the most infamous documents in the history of mankind. The sheer audacity of a group of men in a rustic colony of the mightiest empire on earth to create a new country from scratch - designed from the bottom up - was breathtaking for its time. Before they could create a new country, however, they had to sever themselves from their existing overseas sovereign. Beginning in the late spring of 1776, they began to craft the document to do just that.
Oddly enough, the document was finalized and agreed upon on July 2nd. John Adams thought that July 2nd would be the day forever remembered in celebration:
His proposal, however odd it seems today, was perfectly reasonable when he made it in a letter to his wife, Abigail. On the previous day, July 2, 1776, the Second Continental Congress had finally resolved "That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved." The thought that Americans might instead commemorate July 4, the day Congress adopted a "declaration on Independency" that he had helped prepare, did not apparently occur to Adams in 1776. The Declaration of Independence was one of those congressional statements that he later described as "dress and ornament rather than Body, Soul, or Substance," a way of announcing to the world the fact of American independence, which was for Adams the thing worth celebrating.
In fact, holding our great national festival on the Fourth makes no sense at all -- unless we are actually celebrating not just independence but the Declaration of Independence...
Is that such a bad thing? Countries have been declaring their independence all around the world for centuries. What makes ours so special?
Perhaps because it was one of the first, upon which many others have been modeled. As recently as June 21st of this year, the tiny island of Forvik (population: 1) declared independence from the British government. Some of the wording should seem very familiar, such as:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are entitled to certain inalienable rights and that among these are life, freedom and the expression of their full potential...
The African country of Liberia was created by freed slaves from America. Besides borrowing names from America's founding fathers to name their cities, they also borrowed from our second-most hallowed governmental document when creating their own:
We recognize in all men certain inalienable rights; among these are life, liberty, and the right to acquire, possess, enjoy, and defend property...
And while it is a wonderful thing that a country was formed by freed slaves, let us not forget that when the Declaration of Independence was written, not all men WERE created equal. Until the 13th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified, slavery was legal, and slaves only counted as 3/5 of a person. Perhaps that's why they named their country Liberia, based on the word "liberty".
However, all change requires a first step, and the first step taken 232 years ago has taken us where we are today, where - despite all its imperfections and imperfect leaders and bumps along the way - we've got a pretty good country. So let's take one more look at the document our forefathers created, who's actions have inspired generations around the world to believe that liberty and independence are possible:
=====================================
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
=====================================
Happy Birthday America... :party:
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Comment by 
livingonli on 07/04/2008 06:55:35
livingonli on 07/04/2008 06:55:35
Fristy pants just because the blog was up early enough. 
:banana:
And I guess I can open with late night music video theater. And I'll start since I missed mentioning Canada Day on Tuesday with another clip from the Hip.
:banana:And I guess I can open with late night music video theater. And I'll start since I missed mentioning Canada Day on Tuesday with another clip from the Hip.
Comment by 
Random on 07/04/2008 10:04:41
Random on 07/04/2008 10:04:41
ACK!
COLOR!
*hides*
COLOR!
*hides*
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/04/2008 12:57:25
TriSec on 07/04/2008 12:57:25
Morning, everyone!
Can't have the Fourth without a flyby....sounds of freedom, gang!
: TriSec goes all right-wing for a minute :
and for the more sensitive among us:
Can't have the Fourth without a flyby....sounds of freedom, gang!
: TriSec goes all right-wing for a minute :
and for the more sensitive among us:
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:00:27
I'd bet the wedding date won't be until AFTER the November election - so just in case McCain/Crist doesn't win, he won't have to go through with the charade.
Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:00:27
Quote by Random:
Gay florida governer getting not gay married
Comment by Random on 07/04/2008 13:01:50
Well, from what i read, it's planning on being a fall wedding, soooo maybe.
Money says, if she has money, he'll keep her.
Random on 07/04/2008 13:01:50
Quote by Shane-O:I'd bet the wedding date won't be until AFTER the November election - so just in case McCain/Crist doesn't win, he won't have to go through with the charade.Quote by Random:
Gay florida governer getting not gay married
Well, from what i read, it's planning on being a fall wedding, soooo maybe.
Money says, if she has money, he'll keep her.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:17:41
Two sounds that sound even better together! Call it "sensitive right-wing":
Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:17:41
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, everyone!
Can't have the Fourth without a flyby....sounds of freedom, gang!
: TriSec goes all right-wing for a minute :
and for the more sensitive among us:
Two sounds that sound even better together! Call it "sensitive right-wing":
Comment by Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:31:04
BTW, Random - you feelin' better? Choppers OK?
Shane-O on 07/04/2008 13:31:04
Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:I'd bet the wedding date won't be until AFTER the November election - so just in case McCain/Crist doesn't win, he won't have to go through with the charade.Quote by Random:
Gay florida governer getting not gay married
Well, from what i read, it's planning on being a fall wedding, soooo maybe.
Money says, if she has money, he'll keep her.
Comment by 
capt on 07/04/2008 13:53:37
capt on 07/04/2008 13:53:37
Happy fourth folks!
The last bloggy was KILLING my machine!! I couldn't play or make a post. UGH!
I had so many (dumb) things to say (of course I can't remember any of them)
I tried everything - must be my machine.
Seems to work better now.
I hope you all are doing well.
The last bloggy was KILLING my machine!! I couldn't play or make a post. UGH!
I had so many (dumb) things to say (of course I can't remember any of them)
I tried everything - must be my machine.
Seems to work better now.
I hope you all are doing well.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 13:55:57
Crist is going to marry? WHO?
Maybe Harriet Myers will be his beard?
How's about Kathrine Harris?
:rofl:
capt on 07/04/2008 13:55:57
Quote by Shane-O:BTW, Random - you feelin' better? Choppers OK?Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:I'd bet the wedding date won't be until AFTER the November election - so just in case McCain/Crist doesn't win, he won't have to go through with the charade.Quote by Random:
Gay florida governer getting not gay married
Well, from what i read, it's planning on being a fall wedding, soooo maybe.
Money says, if she has money, he'll keep her.
Crist is going to marry? WHO?
Maybe Harriet Myers will be his beard?
How's about Kathrine Harris?
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:03:01
livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:03:01
Good morning everyone.
Katherine Harris is married so it would have to be Harriet.
Katherine Harris is married so it would have to be Harriet.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 14:05:06
capt on 07/04/2008 14:05:06
THAT is why they have to wait - Katherine Harris has to kill her current husband . . .
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:18:33
She can take him out by smacking him with her fake boobs.
livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:18:33
Quote by capt:
THAT is why they have to wait - Katherine Harris has to kill her current husband . . .
She can take him out by smacking him with her fake boobs.
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:27:14
livingonli on 07/04/2008 14:27:14
Gay marriage opponents to boycott McDonald's. If it weren't for my health issues, I would eat there out of spite.
Comment by 
clintster on 07/04/2008 14:27:30
clintster on 07/04/2008 14:27:30
I think the only way Katherine Harris would marry Charlie Crist (if she weren't already) is if he had (whispery) ten million dollars.
Happy Fourth everybody! The last one under the Dubya Error. Woo-Hoo!!!!
:fart: :cheers:
:metal:
Happy Fourth everybody! The last one under the Dubya Error. Woo-Hoo!!!!
:fart:
:cheers: :metal:
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 14:35:21
capt on 07/04/2008 14:35:21
Wait wait wait - - - -
Crist will marry . . . .
Lindsay Graham!
They'd make a cute couple - a quicky California ceremony . . .
Crist will marry . . . .
Lindsay Graham!
They'd make a cute couple - a quicky California ceremony . . .
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 14:38:06
capt on 07/04/2008 14:38:06
Is the "flashing happy face" suppose to make a guy horny?
I see the boobies and - Bow chick-a bow bow!
(I even like the skinny chick
)
I see the boobies and - Bow chick-a bow bow!
(I even like the skinny chick
)
Comment by clintster on 07/04/2008 14:45:32
clintster on 07/04/2008 14:45:32
BREAKING NEWS:
Jesse Helms is dead.
I wasn't sure how to feel about this. The wifey said "Donne". I said "Huh?" She answered: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."
BTW, click on this link to WRAL, the TV station that HElms worked for before his Senate career; he used to deliver segregationist rants as editorial comments. The URL for the story of his passing bears an innnnnteresting message!
http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/?good-riddance
Jesse Helms is dead.
I wasn't sure how to feel about this. The wifey said "Donne". I said "Huh?" She answered: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee."
BTW, click on this link to WRAL, the TV station that HElms worked for before his Senate career; he used to deliver segregationist rants as editorial comments. The URL for the story of his passing bears an innnnnteresting message!
http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/?good-riddance
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 14:49:46
Okay, off to the penalty box I go
capt on 07/04/2008 14:49:46
Quote by capt:
Is the "flashing happy face" suppose to make a guy horny?
I see the boobies and - Bow chick-a bow bow!
(I even like the skinny chick
Okay, off to the penalty box I go
Comment by 
BobR on 07/04/2008 14:54:27
BobR on 07/04/2008 14:54:27
Morning folks.... :coffee:
Happy Fourth of July!
For some reason, my lower back is killing me today...
Happy Fourth of July!
For some reason, my lower back is killing me today...
Comment by BobR on 07/04/2008 14:55:38
Did you see my comment yesterday about the arrow button to the right of the blog title that you can use to "roll up" the blog post?
BobR on 07/04/2008 14:55:38
Quote by capt:
Happy fourth folks!
The last bloggy was KILLING my machine!! I couldn't play or make a post. UGH!
I had so many (dumb) things to say (of course I can't remember any of them)
I tried everything - must be my machine.
Seems to work better now.
I hope you all are doing well.
Did you see my comment yesterday about the arrow button to the right of the blog title that you can use to "roll up" the blog post?
Comment by 
Raine on 07/04/2008 14:57:20
Raine on 07/04/2008 14:57:20
Good morning everyone!
:usa: Happy Independence Day! :usa:
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 14:58:27
Don't give it any weapons and you stand a chance - lower backs don't have opposable thumbs - use that to your advantage. . . .
capt on 07/04/2008 14:58:27
Quote by BobR:
Morning folks.... :coffee:
Happy Fourth of July!
For some reason, my lower back is killing me today...
Don't give it any weapons and you stand a chance - lower backs don't have opposable thumbs - use that to your advantage. . . .
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:01:53
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:01:53
Heya Clint, I just checked out the Mrs. onthe youtube on yesterday's bloggie. Very Nice!
And now listeing to the Boston Pops.
And now listeing to the Boston Pops.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:01:54
Oh yeah, I tried everything - the 4f blog would go "program not responding" which makes me take down my browser, then I have to restart my machine - then I could go back and try again only to wait and time out again then restart.
I was only able to get on the one or two times.
capt on 07/04/2008 15:01:54
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
Happy fourth folks!
The last bloggy was KILLING my machine!! I couldn't play or make a post. UGH!
I had so many (dumb) things to say (of course I can't remember any of them)
I tried everything - must be my machine.
Seems to work better now.
I hope you all are doing well.
Did you see my comment yesterday about the arrow button to the right of the blog title that you can use to "roll up" the blog post?
Oh yeah, I tried everything - the 4f blog would go "program not responding" which makes me take down my browser, then I have to restart my machine - then I could go back and try again only to wait and time out again then restart.
I was only able to get on the one or two times.
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:03:19
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:03:19
Well Jesse is dead. ok. I hope he rests in peace.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:06:32
capt on 07/04/2008 15:06:32
Jesse, hmmm hard to say humanity lost anything of value . . .
I hope he was loved by his friends and family and they miss him, it might make up for my indifference to his passing . . .
I hope he was loved by his friends and family and they miss him, it might make up for my indifference to his passing . . .
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:08:00
Mrs. on the youtube? Can I get a repost? I'm scared to try the old thread - it hates my machine . .
capt on 07/04/2008 15:08:00
Quote by Raine:
Heya Clint, I just checked out the Mrs. onthe youtube on yesterday's bloggie. Very Nice!
And now listeing to the Boston Pops.
Mrs. on the youtube? Can I get a repost? I'm scared to try the old thread - it hates my machine . .
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/04/2008 15:10:55
trojanrabbit on 07/04/2008 15:10:55
Oughta be some nice flamewars on Fark over Jesse's passing. Too bad it's on a holiday.
RIP Senator - Thank you for your service.
Hi everyone!
ETA: Just headed to check the thread over there, yup it's gonna be a huge conflagration.
RIP Senator - Thank you for your service.
Hi everyone!
ETA: Just headed to check the thread over there, yup it's gonna be a huge conflagration.
Comment by clintster on 07/04/2008 15:11:50
clintster on 07/04/2008 15:11:50
Here ya go, capt!
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 15:16:50
livingonli on 07/04/2008 15:16:50
I can't say anything nice about that racist cracker Jesse Helms. Goodbye, Jesse. May you rot in hell with your fellow racists and the fascist Latin American dictators you supported.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:23:51
capt on 07/04/2008 15:23:51
KEWL!
And WOW - U R a lucky man . .
Thanks!
And WOW - U R a lucky man . .
Thanks!
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:27:00
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:27:00
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:32:11
That group of hate filled jerks is dying out. One by one the thread of hate gets thinner and thinner. Soon race will not matter. Think about how it was in the 60's? Joy watches "So you think you can dance" (the WORST show on the planet) but they have mixed race dancing. Mixed race dancing - think "Shampoo" or remember "Shindig" - or even on "American Bandstand?" There was a time, not long ago that mixed race dancing was shocking and to some people offensive.
We have a long way to go but I think we are headed in the right direction. Young folks today deal with race and gender issues better than my generation. The next and the following will be better and better.
What was I sayin'?
capt on 07/04/2008 15:32:11
Quote by livingonli:
I can't say anything nice about that racist cracker Jesse Helms. Goodbye, Jesse. May you rot in hell with your fellow racists and the fascist Latin American dictators you supported.
That group of hate filled jerks is dying out. One by one the thread of hate gets thinner and thinner. Soon race will not matter. Think about how it was in the 60's? Joy watches "So you think you can dance" (the WORST show on the planet) but they have mixed race dancing. Mixed race dancing - think "Shampoo" or remember "Shindig" - or even on "American Bandstand?" There was a time, not long ago that mixed race dancing was shocking and to some people offensive.
We have a long way to go but I think we are headed in the right direction. Young folks today deal with race and gender issues better than my generation. The next and the following will be better and better.
What was I sayin'?
Comment by BobR on 07/04/2008 15:35:10
BobR on 07/04/2008 15:35:10
Comment by TriSec on 07/04/2008 15:41:09
TriSec on 07/04/2008 15:41:09
Going deep into av-dorkery today. I downloaded a bunch of warbirds last night, so now I'm bringing them up to Tri-Secian standards.
I re-engined the A-26 with some Pratt & Whitney double-wasp radials; I'm going to have to do some work on the panel. It's OK, but the autopilot numbers are way too tiny.
The Helldiver is a beauty, and I just re-engined that with a Wright R-1850 for the appropriate sound.
The Marauder needs work, although I'll use the same P&W sound file from the A-26. Haven't looked at the panel.
And now that I figured out what I did with the sound files, I'm re-engining my Martin 404...the Pratt & Whitney radials are coming out in favor of a pair of Merlins...
[/avdork off]
I re-engined the A-26 with some Pratt & Whitney double-wasp radials; I'm going to have to do some work on the panel. It's OK, but the autopilot numbers are way too tiny.
The Helldiver is a beauty, and I just re-engined that with a Wright R-1850 for the appropriate sound.
The Marauder needs work, although I'll use the same P&W sound file from the A-26. Haven't looked at the panel.
And now that I figured out what I did with the sound files, I'm re-engining my Martin 404...the Pratt & Whitney radials are coming out in favor of a pair of Merlins...
[/avdork off]
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:41:33
Hey, trojan, you know since you are a Farker... please don't hesitiate to fark das blog. I tried to sign up, and I keep having funky things happen... so I kinda gave up.
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:41:33
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Oughta be some nice flamewars on Fark over Jesse's passing. Too bad it's on a holiday.
RIP Senator - Thank you for your service.
Hi everyone!
ETA: Just headed to check the thread over there, yup it's gonna be a huge conflagration.
Hey, trojan, you know since you are a Farker... please don't hesitiate to fark das blog. I tried to sign up, and I keep having funky things happen... so I kinda gave up.
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:44:18
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:44:18
Capt. you are a joy. :spliff:
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:49:23
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:49:23
Well I guess it is time to start thinking about getting ready for our Low Country Boil cook out and Bocce Tourny!
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 15:53:48
Assume I am an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about?
This is about planes, software, photos or a game?
capt on 07/04/2008 15:53:48
Quote by TriSec:
Going deep into av-dorkery today. I downloaded a bunch of warbirds last night, so now I'm bringing them up to Tri-Secian standards.
I re-engined the A-26 with some Pratt & Whitney double-wasp radials; I'm going to have to do some work on the panel. It's OK, but the autopilot numbers are way too tiny.
The Helldiver is a beauty, and I just re-engined that with a Wright R-1850 for the appropriate sound.
The Marauder needs work, although I'll use the same P&W sound file from the A-26. Haven't looked at the panel.
And now that I figured out what I did with the sound files, I'm re-engining my Martin 404...the Pratt & Whitney radials are coming out in favor of a pair of Merlins...
[/avdork off]
Assume I am an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about?
This is about planes, software, photos or a game?
Comment by 
Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 15:56:51
Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 15:56:51
In 
right now - dunno how to celebrate 4th of July.
Apart from watching some American action movies.
right now - dunno how to celebrate 4th of July.Apart from watching some American action movies.
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 15:59:16
Raine on 07/04/2008 15:59:16
Hello Malmo! you really hail from ? Wow!
? Wow!
Comment by Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 16:01:27
Yup. I've called into the Jeff Farias Show on KPHX/Nova M Radio from time to time too. :)
Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 16:01:27
Quote by Raine:
Hello Malmo! you really hail from
Yup. I've called into the Jeff Farias Show on KPHX/Nova M Radio from time to time too. :)
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 16:02:56
I'll just stick to my comic book dorkery.
livingonli on 07/04/2008 16:02:56
Quote by capt:Quote by TriSec:
Going deep into av-dorkery today. I downloaded a bunch of warbirds last night, so now I'm bringing them up to Tri-Secian standards.
I re-engined the A-26 with some Pratt & Whitney double-wasp radials; I'm going to have to do some work on the panel. It's OK, but the autopilot numbers are way too tiny.
The Helldiver is a beauty, and I just re-engined that with a Wright R-1850 for the appropriate sound.
The Marauder needs work, although I'll use the same P&W sound file from the A-26. Haven't looked at the panel.
And now that I figured out what I did with the sound files, I'm re-engining my Martin 404...the Pratt & Whitney radials are coming out in favor of a pair of Merlins...
[/avdork off]
Assume I am an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about?
This is about planes, software, photos or a game?
I'll just stick to my comic book dorkery.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 16:07:30
That is so cool!
Now I feel international and I am sitting in New Mexico!
capt on 07/04/2008 16:07:30
Quote by Malmo_Blue:
In
Apart from watching some American action movies.
That is so cool!
Now I feel international and I am sitting in New Mexico!
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 16:10:11
My father was a pilot. Fixed wing and later helicopter too.
Love the pictures
Thanks
capt on 07/04/2008 16:10:11
Quote by TriSec:
TriSec's Obsession
My father was a pilot. Fixed wing and later helicopter too.
Love the pictures
Thanks
Comment by 
IzzyBitz on 07/04/2008 16:37:52
IzzyBitz on 07/04/2008 16:37:52
Happy Independence Day! 
I have always admired the tremendous balls on these guys who declared that all men were created equal when they considered slaves to be only 3/5 of a person and women were, well, maybe 4/5 of a person. And that was on a good day, say after a roll in the hay and a good meal. The chicks were good for smoething after all, but not good enough to share in the rights of "men." Feh. :end mini rant:
Low country boil? What's that?
I have always admired the tremendous balls on these guys who declared that all men were created equal when they considered slaves to be only 3/5 of a person and women were, well, maybe 4/5 of a person. And that was on a good day, say after a roll in the hay and a good meal. The chicks were good for smoething after all, but not good enough to share in the rights of "men." Feh. :end mini rant:
Low country boil? What's that?
Comment by Random on 07/04/2008 16:39:18
Random on 07/04/2008 16:39:18
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 16:41:55
livingonli on 07/04/2008 16:41:55
All hail Random! 
Comment by Random on 07/04/2008 16:42:58
*throws cookie*
Random on 07/04/2008 16:42:58
Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random!
*throws cookie*
Comment by m-hadley on 07/04/2008 17:00:59
m-hadley on 07/04/2008 17:00:59
Hola Everybody,
I am just dropping by for a quick hello and Happee 4th of July to everybody - I am writing this on my Dad's old computer with a verrryyy slooowww dial-up connection, I'll be back in Tulsa Sunday evening - I hope you all have a bang up Indepence Day (great post BobR!). Take care :hug:
:peace:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
I am just dropping by for a quick hello and Happee 4th of July to everybody - I am writing this on my Dad's old computer with a verrryyy slooowww dial-up connection, I'll be back in Tulsa Sunday evening - I hope you all have a bang up Indepence Day (great post BobR!). Take care :hug:
:peace:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 17:14:25
Thank you. Me like cookie.
Enjoy your 4th, mfaye.
livingonli on 07/04/2008 17:14:25
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random!
*throws cookie*
Thank you. Me like cookie.
Enjoy your 4th, mfaye.
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 17:15:18
Low country Boil. When it's done you pour it onthe table and gho to town...
Raine on 07/04/2008 17:15:18
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Happy Independence Day!
I have always admired the tremendous balls on these guys who declared that all men were created equal when they considered slaves to be only 3/5 of a person and women were, well, maybe 4/5 of a person. And that was on a good day, say after a roll in the hay and a good meal. The chicks were good for smoething after all, but not good enough to share in the rights of "men." Feh. :end mini rant:
Low country boil? What's that?
Low country Boil. When it's done you pour it onthe table and gho to town...
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 17:26:37
I love Jeff's Show. I listen to it almost every day. Well happy 4th of July anyway!
Raine on 07/04/2008 17:26:37
Quote by Malmo_Blue:Quote by Raine:
Hello Malmo! you really hail from
Yup. I've called into the Jeff Farias Show on KPHX/Nova M Radio from time to time too. :)
I love Jeff's Show. I listen to it almost every day. Well happy 4th of July anyway!
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 17:52:31
From Juan Cole Informed Comment Email
capt on 07/04/2008 17:52:31
"I do not mean to exclude altogether the idea of patriotism. I know it exists, and I know it has done much in the present contest. But I will venture to assert, that a great and lasting war can never be supported on this principle alone. It must be aided by a prospect of interest, or some reward."
-George Washington. Letter, April 21, 1778.
"True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which impels them—-the desire to do right—-is precisely the same."
-Robert E. Lee, letter to General P. G. T. Beauregard, October 3, 1865
There seems no reason why patriotism and narrowness should go together, or why intellectual fairmindedness should be confounded with political trimming,* or why serviceable truth should keep cloistered because not partisan.+
-Herman Melville (1819–1891)
*trimming= opportunism
+i.e. truth should not be hidden away just because it does not support the American cause.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."
-Mark Twain
"How much longer are we going to think it necessary to be 'American' before (or in contradistinction to) being cultivated, being enlightened, being humane, having the same intellectual discipline as other civilized countries? It is really too easy a disguise for our shortcomings to dress them up as a form of patriotism!"
-Edith Wharton
"My patriotism is not an exclusive thing. It is all-embracing and I should reject that patriotism which sought to mount the distress or exploitation of other nationalities."
-Mohandas K. Gandhi
"I venture to suggest that what we mean is a sense of national responsibility which will enable America to remain master of her power—-to walk with it in serenity and wisdom, with self-respect and the respect of all mankind; a patriotism that puts country ahead of self; a patriotism which is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime. These are words that are easy to utter, but this is a mighty assignment. For it is often easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
- Adlai Stevenson
"We do not consider patriotism desirable if it contradicts civilized behavior."
-Friedrich Dürrenmatt (1921–1990)
"It seems that American patriotism measures itself against an outcast group. The right Americans are the right Americans because they’re not like the wrong Americans, who are not really Americans." -
-Eric J. Hobsbawm
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
-Howard Zinn
From Juan Cole Informed Comment Email
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 18:00:04
Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 18:00:04
Great blog entry, BobR!!
Happy Independence Day, bloggers!!
Let us remember that democracy is not just about elections, but in being involved in an ongoing dialogue and taking action.
For those who want to take a look, the UNN Daily Headlines are up and there are a few fitting articles from the Nation, the Boston Globe, and the Washington Post to check out.
Also, I think Thomas Jefferson is smiling today.
Bush salutes new Americans at July 4 ceremony- President heckled during event at Thomas Jefferson's former home
Good to see you here, Malmo. Malmo Blue is a regular over at UNN and the Democracy Interactive chat during the Jeff Farias and Mike Malloy shows. (I don't know how Malmo stays up till the end of Mike's show as he is in Sweden - I guess he must be a caffeine-based life form.)
Happy Independence Day, bloggers!!
Let us remember that democracy is not just about elections, but in being involved in an ongoing dialogue and taking action.
For those who want to take a look, the UNN Daily Headlines are up and there are a few fitting articles from the Nation, the Boston Globe, and the Washington Post to check out.
Also, I think Thomas Jefferson is smiling today.
Bush salutes new Americans at July 4 ceremony- President heckled during event at Thomas Jefferson's former home
Good to see you here, Malmo. Malmo Blue is a regular over at UNN and the Democracy Interactive chat during the Jeff Farias and Mike Malloy shows. (I don't know how Malmo stays up till the end of Mike's show as he is in Sweden - I guess he must be a caffeine-based life form.)
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:03:50
:scans blog:
:spit: :rofl: :rofl:
Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:03:50
Quote by capt:
Wait wait wait - - - -
Crist will marry . . . .
Lindsay Graham!
They'd make a cute couple - a quicky California ceremony . . .
:scans blog:
:spit:
:rofl: :rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:08:26
Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:08:26
Wow a new person and from Sweden and everything with the flaven. Malmo, did we tell you all the blog's extensive groupings of furniture are from IKEA? Except for the fainting couches. :rofl:
About Jesse Helms. I think right about now he is being sodomized by a demon who has morphed itself to look just like Robert Mapplethorpe. Ironic and painful for all eternity!
Yeah, yeah. I'll skate over to the penalty box.
About Jesse Helms. I think right about now he is being sodomized by a demon who has morphed itself to look just like Robert Mapplethorpe. Ironic and painful for all eternity!
Yeah, yeah. I'll skate over to the penalty box.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 18:12:43
Um, just the opposite - Jesse is just being teased by a Mapplethorpeian homoerotic fantasy and can't even touch himself. . . .
*off to the box for me too*
capt on 07/04/2008 18:12:43
About Jesse Helms. I think right about now he is being sodomized by a demon who has morphed itself to look just like Robert Mapplethorpe. Ironic and painful for all eternity!
Yeah, yeah. I'll skate over to the penalty box.
Um, just the opposite - Jesse is just being teased by a Mapplethorpeian homoerotic fantasy and can't even touch himself. . . .
*off to the box for me too*
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 18:13:58
Well, I suspect that Jesse Helms has a longer stay in a penalty box than you do. Mind you, I think that it would be divine irony if Helms had to spend eternity as the victim of the sorts of policies he advocated in life.
Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 18:13:58
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow a new person and from Sweden and everything with the flaven. Malmo, did we tell you all the blog's extensive groupings of furniture are from IKEA? Except for the fainting couches. :rofl:
About Jesse Helms. I think right about now he is being sodomized by a demon who has morphed itself to look just like Robert Mapplethorpe. Ironic and painful for all eternity!
Yeah, yeah. I'll skate over to the penalty box.
Well, I suspect that Jesse Helms has a longer stay in a penalty box than you do. Mind you, I think that it would be divine irony if Helms had to spend eternity as the victim of the sorts of policies he advocated in life.
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 18:17:39
Raine on 07/04/2008 18:17:39
Always nice to have friends come by for a visit! Hi Will!
(still prepping for the party. It is really hot outside right now... )
(still prepping for the party. It is really hot outside right now... )
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:36:47
Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 18:36:47
Well my shoe shopping adventure is over. The outlet mall was total bust. I ended up getting them at the :shudder: mall.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 18:38:57
Every now and again Ed hits the nail on the head.
capt on 07/04/2008 18:38:57
Every now and again Ed hits the nail on the head.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 18:52:42
capt on 07/04/2008 18:52:42
Seven Things Barack Obama Should Do to Keep from Blowing It
[...]
When Bobby Kennedy was agonizing over whether or not to run in 1968, he told one of his advisors: "People are selfish. But they can also be compassionate and generous, and they care about the country. But not when they feel threatened. That's why this is such a crucial time. We can go in either direction. But if we don't make a choice soon, it will be too late to turn things around. I think people are willing to make the right choice. But they need leadership. They're hungry for leadership." Forty years later, we are starving for it. Real leadership, not a poll-driven facsimile. Not swing-state, swing-voter leadership. Leadership defined by an ability to capture our imagination and a willingness to challenge us. Leadership geared to transforming the country through the audacity of hope instead of keeping it mired in the politics of fear and division.
[...]
When Bobby Kennedy was agonizing over whether or not to run in 1968, he told one of his advisors: "People are selfish. But they can also be compassionate and generous, and they care about the country. But not when they feel threatened. That's why this is such a crucial time. We can go in either direction. But if we don't make a choice soon, it will be too late to turn things around. I think people are willing to make the right choice. But they need leadership. They're hungry for leadership." Forty years later, we are starving for it. Real leadership, not a poll-driven facsimile. Not swing-state, swing-voter leadership. Leadership defined by an ability to capture our imagination and a willingness to challenge us. Leadership geared to transforming the country through the audacity of hope instead of keeping it mired in the politics of fear and division.
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 19:00:06
capt on 07/04/2008 19:00:06
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 19:25:39
Raine on 07/04/2008 19:25:39
:martini: and have begun to be served!
have begun to be served!
Comment by Raine on 07/04/2008 19:42:03
It's unf*ckingbelievable how badlt this man lies.
And he has the gall, the utter gall to dsay that Obama is a flip flopper?
(that is the funniest audicon, ever. )
Raine on 07/04/2008 19:42:03
Quote by capt:
And he has the gall, the utter gall to dsay that Obama is a flip flopper?
(that is the funniest audicon, ever. )
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 19:57:32
Pretty good stuff . . .
capt on 07/04/2008 19:57:32
Pretty good stuff . . .
Comment by Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 20:00:00
I'm planning to buy a new carpet from IKEA soon - made out of recycled IKEA catalogues too, I heard. ;)
Thanks for the welcome, Will :)
Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 20:00:00
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow a new person and from Sweden and everything with the flaven. Malmo, did we tell you all the blog's extensive groupings of furniture are from IKEA? Except for the fainting couches. :rofl:
I'm planning to buy a new carpet from IKEA soon - made out of recycled IKEA catalogues too, I heard. ;)
Thanks for the welcome, Will :)
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 20:02:10
capt on 07/04/2008 20:02:10
What do we do if . . say . . the Iraqis substituted a few words and declared their independence from us?
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 20:07:18
capt on 07/04/2008 20:07:18
I too am sorta new, so I don't know the new peeps from the old but the gracious welcome I received I would extend to all!
Welcome, welkom, bienvenue, Willkommen, υποδοχή, benvenuto, boa vinda, добро пожаловать, recepción!!!!
(see I do feel international!)
Welcome, welkom, bienvenue, Willkommen, υποδοχή, benvenuto, boa vinda, добро пожаловать, recepción!!!!
(see I do feel international!)
Comment by Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 20:15:38
And a big Välkommen, or Merhaba, or Davs - to you capt! :)
Malmo_Blue on 07/04/2008 20:15:38
Quote by capt:
I too am sorta new, so I don't know the new peeps from the old but the gracious welcome I received I would extend to all!
Welcome, welkom, bienvenue, Willkommen, υποδοχή, benvenuto, boa vinda, добро пожаловать, recepción!!!!
(see I do feel international!)
And a big Välkommen, or Merhaba, or Davs - to you capt! :)
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 20:19:26
capt on 07/04/2008 20:19:26
This is a great place!!
Finding it is the same as finding treasure.
(except the penalty box - hot and stuffy in there)
Finding it is the same as finding treasure.
(except the penalty box - hot and stuffy in there)
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 20:30:07
capt on 07/04/2008 20:30:07
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 21:04:34
capt on 07/04/2008 21:04:34
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 22:15:22
Mondobubba on 07/04/2008 22:15:22
:spit: :rofl: :rofl: The local Fox station is keeping list for parents rating TV shows for their purient content. Fox is doing this, hello? Have you no sense of irony. 
: <---tears of laughter:
:rofl: :rofl: The local Fox station is keeping list for parents rating TV shows for their purient content. Fox is doing this, hello? Have you no sense of irony. : <---tears of laughter:
Comment by capt on 07/04/2008 22:59:31
capt on 07/04/2008 22:59:31
Why I’m Not Patriotic
In memory of George Carlin.)
It’s July 4th again, a day of near-compulsory flag-waving and nation-worshipping. Count me out.
In memory of George Carlin.)
It’s July 4th again, a day of near-compulsory flag-waving and nation-worshipping. Count me out.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:42:10
velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:42:10
Happy FOURTH everyone! As a "special" gift:
Velveeta is HOME!!
:thud:
Oh, and as a bonus........... another homophobe, racist has passed on ............
Velveeta is HOME!!
:thud:
Oh, and as a bonus........... another homophobe, racist has passed on ............
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 23:44:24
livingonli on 07/04/2008 23:44:24
Hi everyone. Went out for the afternoon. Saw the new Hulk movie. I thought that it was good, not as good as Iron Man but a good piece of entertainment. My only beef was when they have the big fight scene in New York, they obviously used Yonge St. in Toronto since I saw Sam the Record Man and the Big Slice. Just turning one building into the Apollo Theatre and putting NYPD on the police cars doesn't quite cut it.
Comment by livingonli on 07/04/2008 23:46:28
livingonli on 07/04/2008 23:46:28
Welcome home, Velveeta. Does that mean you will put your back on?
back on?
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:48:01
velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:48:01
Aw, Liv................ ya miss the do ya?
:D
do ya?:D
Comment by Random on 07/04/2008 23:49:46
Random on 07/04/2008 23:49:46
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 23:51:05
Welcome back, Velveeta!!
Will in Chicago on 07/04/2008 23:51:05
Quote by velveeta jones:
Happy FOURTH everyone! As a "special" gift:
Velveeta is HOME!!
:thud:
Oh, and as a bonus........... another homophobe, racist has passed on ............
Welcome back, Velveeta!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:52:25
velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:52:25
I have barely heard one whit of news for 2+ weeks!! Hence the blinky guy! Its hard to be a news whore and not have any news. Not to mention not hearing Steph and Thom.
I can't wait for tomorrow morning when I can turn on my radio!! WooHOO!
I can't wait for tomorrow morning when I can turn on my radio!! WooHOO!
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:54:23
velveeta jones on 07/04/2008 23:54:23
Oh crap. I have just been informed by my better half that tomorrow is SATURDAY.
Dammit! Who plans these things?
Dammit! Who plans these things?
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:01:56
And except for Frangela filling in for Steph today, all the shows are best-ofs today.
You can watch the various fireworks shows.
livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:01:56
Quote by velveeta jones:
Oh crap. I have just been informed by my better half that tomorrow is SATURDAY.
Dammit! Who plans these things?
And except for Frangela filling in for Steph today, all the shows are best-ofs today.
You can watch the various fireworks shows.
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:04:48
livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:04:48
Tonight, there is Capitol Fourth on PBS. The Macy's Fireworks show is on NBC. And naitonal coverage of the Boston Pops will be joined in progress at 10 PM on CBS.
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:05:05
Random on 07/05/2008 00:05:05
Hm...dun worry Velveeta. Random's been out of sorts recently...though not for the noble reasons you were.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 00:06:05
AAAAAAArrrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!
I thought today was Thursday too even though my better half is home which makes everything all confusing. . .
So it is all her fault!
capt on 07/05/2008 00:06:05
Quote by velveeta jones:
Oh crap. I have just been informed by my better half that tomorrow is SATURDAY.
Dammit! Who plans these things?
AAAAAAArrrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!
I thought today was Thursday too even though my better half is home which makes everything all confusing. . .
So it is all her fault!
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:06:16
livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:06:16
And welcome back Random. :)
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:08:49
Random on 07/05/2008 00:08:49
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
Comment by MMB on 07/05/2008 00:14:30
MMB on 07/05/2008 00:14:30
Being sodomized is not funny in any way. 
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 00:16:21
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
capt on 07/05/2008 00:16:21
Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
Comment by MMB on 07/05/2008 00:17:06
MMB on 07/05/2008 00:17:06
Welcome Home Velveeta, I am glad your back and really proud of what you do.
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:18:58
livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:18:58
The Capitol Fourth has Huey Lewis and the News. Who else? REO Speedwagon?
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:34:03
Random on 07/05/2008 00:34:03
I like Chris Hanson
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:35:28
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:35:28
Ahh back from dinner. I had to stop at the Citgo to get gas and a big thing o' water. This car of latino dudes pulled up with this amazing music pumping out of the car stereo. Imagine if you can that North Mexican German influenced mariachi/noteno meeting 20th century German avante guarde ala Weil or Eisler. It was awsome!
Welcome home VJ! We missed ya!
Welcome home VJ!
We missed ya!
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:35:45
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
Random on 07/05/2008 00:35:45
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:38:30
Now, that is entirly closed minded.
As the late great George Carlin has said, "Everything is funny, it all depends on the exaggeration."
Random on 07/05/2008 00:38:30
Quote by MMB:
Being sodomized is not funny in any way.
Now, that is entirly closed minded.
As the late great George Carlin has said, "Everything is funny, it all depends on the exaggeration."
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:43:10
No cookie for capt tonight.
livingonli on 07/05/2008 00:43:10
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
No cookie for capt tonight.
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:45:18
good subject. *throws another cookie*
Random on 07/05/2008 00:45:18
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
No cookie for capt tonight.
good subject. *throws another cookie*
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:48:49
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:48:49
:shouting at dingbat on NBC referring to a swimmers synchronicity:
IT IS SYNCHRONIZATION, NOT SYNCHRONICITY, YA MORON!
Synchronicity
Twit.
IT IS SYNCHRONIZATION, NOT SYNCHRONICITY, YA MORON!
Synchronicity
Twit.
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 00:51:02
Random on 07/05/2008 00:51:02
Mondo scares random.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 00:53:02
If I were to mock it would be a much better mock. I would have to go all Cyrano on ya. It would never be as simple as all hail.
capt on 07/05/2008 00:53:02
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
No cookie for capt tonight.
If I were to mock it would be a much better mock. I would have to go all Cyrano on ya. It would never be as simple as all hail.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 00:54:16
Also a pretty good album by the Police? I think
capt on 07/05/2008 00:54:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
:shouting at dingbat on NBC referring to a swimmers synchronicity:
IT IS SYNCHRONIZATION, NOT SYNCHRONICITY, YA MORON!
Synchronicity
Twit.
Also a pretty good album by the Police? I think
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 00:56:36
capt on 07/05/2008 00:56:36
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:56:47
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:56:47
How I Mondo is celebrating the Fourth o' July. I am watching Huo Yuan Jia. I love me some kung fu movies.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:57:57
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:57:57
Jet Li is currently kicking Western ass!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:59:15
That too.
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 00:59:15
Quote by capt:Quote by Mondobubba:
:shouting at dingbat on NBC referring to a swimmers synchronicity:
IT IS SYNCHRONIZATION, NOT SYNCHRONICITY, YA MORON!
Synchronicity
Twit.
Also a pretty good album by the Police? I think
That too.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:02:18
In the beginning of the movie, Anno Tanaka is shown wearing his blue robe, then the white vomit-stained robe, which does not appear until the end of the movie, then the blue robe again.
Any movie with a vomit-stained robe must be good!
capt on 07/05/2008 01:02:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
How I Mondo is celebrating the Fourth o' July. I am watching Huo Yuan Jia. I love me some kung fu movies.
In the beginning of the movie, Anno Tanaka is shown wearing his blue robe, then the white vomit-stained robe, which does not appear until the end of the movie, then the blue robe again.
Any movie with a vomit-stained robe must be good!
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:04:18
capt on 07/05/2008 01:04:18
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:06:46
capt on 07/05/2008 01:06:46
During the climactic fight scene, Huo Yuanjia wipes his face on his sleeve, and some vomit gets on the chest of his shirt. The next time you see his sleeve, it is clean, and the next time it is also clean.
There is a lot of vomit in this flick?
There is a lot of vomit in this flick?
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 01:07:12
hm...fine. *throws cookie*
Random on 07/05/2008 01:07:12
Quote by capt:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Ha...Random's feeling normal. His teeth dun hurt, mind becoming agile...or less congiled.
And, Speaking in third person again. YAY RANDOM!
All HAIL RANDOM and his hurt free teeth!
I feel i'm being mocked.
*smote button at the ready*
No cookie for capt tonight.
If I were to mock it would be a much better mock. I would have to go all Cyrano on ya. It would never be as simple as all hail.
hm...fine. *throws cookie*
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:09:08
capt on 07/05/2008 01:09:08
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:10:57
Vomit is always good. Massive ass kicking and cool wire fu even bettah.
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:10:57
Quote by capt:Quote by Mondobubba:
How I Mondo is celebrating the Fourth o' July. I am watching Huo Yuan Jia. I love me some kung fu movies.
In the beginning of the movie, Anno Tanaka is shown wearing his blue robe, then the white vomit-stained robe, which does not appear until the end of the movie, then the blue robe again.
Any movie with a vomit-stained robe must be good!
Vomit is always good. Massive ass kicking and cool wire fu even bettah.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:11:45
velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:11:45
Thanks everyone for welcoming me back. I've missed all of you! And I see there are new people for me to annoy meet.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:13:27
Hi I'm capt and I am a Stephaholic . . .
Pleased to meet cha!
capt on 07/05/2008 01:13:27
Quote by velveeta jones:
Thanks everyone for welcoming me back. I've missed all of you! And I see there are new people for me toannoymeet.
Hi I'm capt and I am a Stephaholic . . .
Pleased to meet cha!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:13:45
No vomit yet. But a major fight scene coming up. "The death waiver has been signed!"
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:13:45
Quote by capt:
During the climactic fight scene, Huo Yuanjia wipes his face on his sleeve, and some vomit gets on the chest of his shirt. The next time you see his sleeve, it is clean, and the next time it is also clean.
There is a lot of vomit in this flick?
No vomit yet. But a major fight scene coming up. "The death waiver has been signed!"
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:16:51
Oh! There's a 12-step program for Stephaholics? Where do I sign up? :lol:
velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:16:51
Quote by capt:Quote by velveeta jones:
Thanks everyone for welcoming me back. I've missed all of you! And I see there are new people for me toannoymeet.
Hi I'm capt and I am a Stephaholic . . .
Pleased to meet cha!
Oh! There's a 12-step program for Stephaholics? Where do I sign up? :lol:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:18:03
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:18:03
"Your Wu shu will be history!" Fighting ensues Jet Li kicks ass. Oh coming up a massive fight in a restaurant. I can feel it.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:21:55
capt on 07/05/2008 01:21:55
If lovin Steph is wrong, I don't wanna be right . . .
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:24:53
velveeta jones on 07/05/2008 01:24:53
Egads! Chris Hanson and Dateline Sex predator on ................ again!?! This guy has his own little cottage industry with the online porn! He's making a mint!
:channel turn, turn, turn turn turn........ off to watch "Little Britain":
:channel turn, turn, turn turn turn........ off to watch "Little Britain":
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 01:31:37
He also does internet Scams.
I like the show, it's funny.
Random on 07/05/2008 01:31:37
Quote by velveeta jones:
Egads! Chris Hanson and Dateline Sex predator on ................ again!?! This guy has his own little cottage industry with the online porn! He's making a mint!
:channel turn, turn, turn turn turn........ off to watch "Little Britain":
He also does internet Scams.
I like the show, it's funny.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:32:08
:channels South Park: CHRIS HANSON! : shoots self in head:
Poor Rio is cuddled in my lap all askert of the firework booms and bangs
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:32:08
Quote by velveeta jones:
Egads! Chris Hanson and Dateline Sex predator on ................ again!?! This guy has his own little cottage industry with the online porn! He's making a mint!
:channel turn, turn, turn turn turn........ off to watch "Little Britain":
:channels South Park: CHRIS HANSON! : shoots self in head:
Poor Rio is cuddled in my lap all askert of the firework booms and bangs
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 01:33:01
Have a seat...Go on, Have a seat.
Random on 07/05/2008 01:33:01
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by velveeta jones:
Egads! Chris Hanson and Dateline Sex predator on ................ again!?! This guy has his own little cottage industry with the online porn! He's making a mint!
:channel turn, turn, turn turn turn........ off to watch "Little Britain":
:channels South Park: CHRIS HANSON! : shoots self in head:
Poor Rio is cuddled in my lap all askert of the firework booms and bangs
Have a seat...Go on, Have a seat.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:34:33
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 01:34:33
I wonder if turn of the century restaurants in China had a kung fu damage deductible? Cause there is at least one trashed in a kung fu movie.
Comment by Random on 07/05/2008 01:36:18
turn of the century?
Hell, probably still do, I saw That John Woo movie, shoot out in a tea house...death, destruction, dead birds.
Random on 07/05/2008 01:36:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
I wonder if turn of the century restaurants in China had a kung fu damage deductible? Cause there is at least one trashed in a kung fu movie.
turn of the century?
Hell, probably still do, I saw That John Woo movie, shoot out in a tea house...death, destruction, dead birds.
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 01:40:50
capt on 07/05/2008 01:40:50
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 02:04:11
livingonli on 07/05/2008 02:04:11
How come CBS can't do their telecast in HD?
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:00:51
capt on 07/05/2008 03:00:51
Our kitties just don't care about the noise. Kind of surprising, Pretty Paws is a trauma Queen - she will get low and fast if the trash truck drives down the street.
Comment by clintster on 07/05/2008 03:04:18
clintster on 07/05/2008 03:04:18
OK, someone answer me this. Did the Pops Fourth on CBS START with the 1812 Overture? I came rushing home from the local fireworks, thinking that the show would end with Tchaikovsky, but instead I got a lot of prerecorded crap and some "host" saying he wet himself from all the awesome I apparently missed.
Anyone? Bueller?
Anyone? Bueller?
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:07:09
capt on 07/05/2008 03:07:09
Effin Jerry Lee Lewis is ROCKIN'! on our PBS station . . .
He can still play
Holy cow.
Whole lotta shakin goin on
He can still play
Holy cow.
Whole lotta shakin goin on
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:10:40
No DVR or TiVo?
Goodness gracious great balls of fire!
Lewis is still playin'
capt on 07/05/2008 03:10:40
Quote by clintster:
OK, someone answer me this. Did the Pops Fourth on CBS START with the 1812 Overture? I came rushing home from the local fireworks, thinking that the show would end with Tchaikovsky, but instead I got a lot of prerecorded crap and some "host" saying he wet himself from all the awesome I apparently missed.
Anyone? Bueller?
No DVR or TiVo?
Goodness gracious great balls of fire!
Lewis is still playin'
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 03:12:17
Surpisingly, Rio who very spooky did very well. He climbed on my lap when for bit when it got loud. Then he went to sleep with his sister in a chair. It was verra cute. :)
Mondobubba on 07/05/2008 03:12:17
Quote by capt:
Our kitties just don't care about the noise. Kind of surprising, Pretty Paws is a trauma Queen - she will get low and fast if the trash truck drives down the street.
Surpisingly, Rio who very spooky did very well. He climbed on my lap when for bit when it got loud. Then he went to sleep with his sister in a chair. It was verra cute. :)
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:13:43
capt on 07/05/2008 03:13:43
1812 starting now on our PBS station - the fireworks are pretty hot!
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:15:56
capt on 07/05/2008 03:15:56
1812 closing the show with cannons and fireworks . . . . .
Wow!
Wow!
Comment by capt on 07/05/2008 03:17:17
capt on 07/05/2008 03:17:17
Now "Stars and Stripes" played by the Marine band . .
More fireworks
More fireworks
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 03:20:12
CBS joins the telecast while it is already going at 10 PM. The previous two hours are only shown in Boston so the rest of the country only gets jolted into it for the third hour. It was better when A&E did all three hours simulcasting WCVB in Boston.
livingonli on 07/05/2008 03:20:12
Quote by clintster:
OK, someone answer me this. Did the Pops Fourth on CBS START with the 1812 Overture? I came rushing home from the local fireworks, thinking that the show would end with Tchaikovsky, but instead I got a lot of prerecorded crap and some "host" saying he wet himself from all the awesome I apparently missed.
Anyone? Bueller?
CBS joins the telecast while it is already going at 10 PM. The previous two hours are only shown in Boston so the rest of the country only gets jolted into it for the third hour. It was better when A&E did all three hours simulcasting WCVB in Boston.
Comment by livingonli on 07/05/2008 05:06:58
livingonli on 07/05/2008 05:06:58
Tonight's late night video theater. But you tube is getting temperamental again.