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The Two Obamas
Author: BobR
Date: 07/09/2008 05:17:32
If you bounce around the internets and the news, it seems like there are two Obamas out there. One is way too liberal; one is way too "centrist". One is staying true to his message; one is flip-flopping. How can he be both of these things? Perhaps this should be a clue as to the right-wing's tactics for this campaign.
I found it odd that there were so many contradictory news reports about Obama. These aren't opinions (per se) - they are actual news items that seem almost contradictory. Here is a prime example:
Obama courts conservatives with new faith program:
Obama to scrap Bush's faith-based office:
Careful reading will show that the two stories are essentially the same. So what's going on? The story being told to the right-leaning moderates is "Obama is scrapping the faith-based initiatives". The story being told to the left-leaning Democrats is "Obama wants to steer money towards religious groups". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the strategy. If they can disillusion the left enough to not show up, and scare the middle-right enough to vote for McCain, they might be able to win this fall.
The same thing is going on with Obama's position in the political spectrum. He is getting tagged with the same label as Al Gore: "The Most Liberal Member of the Senate". Naturally, this will cause concern among certain people, despite the fact that it isn't true. At the same time, the meme that Obama is "tacking toward the center" is being used to alienate him from the left. The term "tacking right" is being used everywhere, including news stories. I wonder who first put that phrase out there and leaned on it hard enough for it to become part of the zeitgeist?
The most insidious thing is: the idea of Obama "tacking right" cuts two ways - it makes the left feel used, and it makes the right consider him to be a flip-flopper without specifically saying so. It's subtle, it's deadly, it's an idea we need to quit perpetuating.
We all need to look beyond the story headlines, beyond the pundits' interpretations, and actually read the words coming from his mouth - in context - and see what he's saying. It's time we all take a few minutes to actually read his platform, and then we may not be as surprised when a story floats by describing how he has once again left those who brung him to the dance sitting on the bleachers while he dances off with the popular girl.
It's time to stop letting the right-wing define who he is. When we buy into their spin, they win.
I found it odd that there were so many contradictory news reports about Obama. These aren't opinions (per se) - they are actual news items that seem almost contradictory. Here is a prime example:
Obama courts conservatives with new faith program:
Taking a page from President Bush, Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday he wants to expand White House efforts to steer social service dollars to religious groups, risking protests in his own party with his latest aggressive reach for voters who usually vote Republican.
Obama to scrap Bush's faith-based office:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) plans to slam President Bush’s faith-based program as “a photo op” and a failure on Tuesday, and says he would scrap the office and create a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that would be a “critical” part of his administration.
Obama, unveiling a plan to overhaul and expand Bush’s faith-based program during remarks at a community ministry in Zanesville, Ohio, said the White House Office of Community and Faith-Based Initiatives — which Bush founded during his second week in office — “never fulfilled its promise.”
“Support for social services to the poor and the needy have been consistently underfunded,” Obama says in prepared remarks. “Rather than promoting the cause of all faith-based organizations, former officials in the Office have described how it was used to promote partisan interests. As a result, the smaller congregations and community groups that were supposed to be empowered ended up getting short-changed.”
Careful reading will show that the two stories are essentially the same. So what's going on? The story being told to the right-leaning moderates is "Obama is scrapping the faith-based initiatives". The story being told to the left-leaning Democrats is "Obama wants to steer money towards religious groups". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the strategy. If they can disillusion the left enough to not show up, and scare the middle-right enough to vote for McCain, they might be able to win this fall.
The same thing is going on with Obama's position in the political spectrum. He is getting tagged with the same label as Al Gore: "The Most Liberal Member of the Senate". Naturally, this will cause concern among certain people, despite the fact that it isn't true. At the same time, the meme that Obama is "tacking toward the center" is being used to alienate him from the left. The term "tacking right" is being used everywhere, including news stories. I wonder who first put that phrase out there and leaned on it hard enough for it to become part of the zeitgeist?
The most insidious thing is: the idea of Obama "tacking right" cuts two ways - it makes the left feel used, and it makes the right consider him to be a flip-flopper without specifically saying so. It's subtle, it's deadly, it's an idea we need to quit perpetuating.
We all need to look beyond the story headlines, beyond the pundits' interpretations, and actually read the words coming from his mouth - in context - and see what he's saying. It's time we all take a few minutes to actually read his platform, and then we may not be as surprised when a story floats by describing how he has once again left those who brung him to the dance sitting on the bleachers while he dances off with the popular girl.
It's time to stop letting the right-wing define who he is. When we buy into their spin, they win.
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Comment by 
BobR on 07/09/2008 05:18:18
BobR on 07/09/2008 05:18:18
Yes, I am posting this in the wee hours... I don't feel like getting up early...
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/09/2008 07:24:33
livingonli on 07/09/2008 07:24:33
I can relate to that. Then again I didn't get home until after 2 AM tonight. It was a little crazy tonight. I'm watching Countdown on the DVR and then turning in.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 09:09:46
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 09:09:46
I don't feel like getting up early, but I have to anyway.
Oh --- Larry King, Peter Cook and Christie Brinkley --- rot in hell for getting in the way of my Stephanie fix.
:rolleyes: :)
Oh --- Larry King, Peter Cook and Christie Brinkley --- rot in hell for getting in the way of my Stephanie fix.
:rolleyes: :)
Comment by 
Random on 07/09/2008 10:52:08
Random on 07/09/2008 10:52:08
wow...i actually read the blog post...
no offense to anyone else...i have an attention span of a gnat...
What was i writing about?
no offense to anyone else...i have an attention span of a gnat...
What was i writing about?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 11:38:06
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 11:38:06
There's an open box of donuts next to my desk.
Must.....resist.......donuts......
I had a good blood sugar reading this morning, can't screw it up.
Must.....resist.......donuts......
I had a good blood sugar reading this morning, can't screw it up.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 12:09:24
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 12:09:24
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/09/2008 12:15:32
TriSec on 07/09/2008 12:15:32
Morning, folks!
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,Bush McCain supporters that lick this stuff up.
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
Comment by 
capt on 07/09/2008 12:39:14
capt on 07/09/2008 12:39:14
Good Morning all!
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 12:51:42
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 12:51:42
Is it morning already? 
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 12:52:16
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 12:52:16
Morning all.
Excellent and timely post BobR. I was just saying to the lovely Aunt Azalea this am, that above all we need to trust Obama.
I certainly trust him more than I did John Kerry, who I worked for and voted for. I am not about to abandon him. And for who? Nader?
PuLEEEZE!!
Excellent and timely post BobR. I was just saying to the lovely Aunt Azalea this am, that above all we need to trust Obama.
I certainly trust him more than I did John Kerry, who I worked for and voted for. I am not about to abandon him. And for who? Nader?
PuLEEEZE!!
Comment by 
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:11:19
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:11:19
If Mama does do the Miss Teen SC speech in London, she should really wear a tiara. Maybe she can ask the Queen for a spare.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:11:42
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:11:42
London Calling is a great song - I would have used On the BBC though - I like the tempo better.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:13:36
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:13:36
I love that montage! :rofl:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:13:55
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:13:55
MRS. CHOCULA! I think she needs to get into a steel cage match with Harriet. Just as long as Sasha Baron Cohen doesn't run it, I think it would rock.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:19:47
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:19:47
Yes, I vote that Steph do bits of McCains speeches. And stand all stiff and blinky-eyed like him, saying things like: "We need to deliver hot bottled water to dehydrated babies...."
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 13:20:01
TriSec on 07/09/2008 13:20:01
Oh yes, that reminds me....I saw a new RW bumper sticker this morning:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:20:49
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:20:49
"Gay marrying caribu commies" 
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 13:21:45
capt on 07/09/2008 13:21:45
BobR,
Great post - touches a nerve.
The M$M has not only failed us - the are culpable.
UGH@!
Great post - touches a nerve.
The M$M has not only failed us - the are culpable.
UGH@!
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:23:16
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:23:16
Funny Obama/McCain story:
My friend's cat has a bum leg and therefore was given the name "BumLeg." Our mutual friend, who tends to lean MUCH more right than we do was visiting last night, so to annoy her I started calling "BumLeg" "ObamaLeg!" And, she followed up with "Have you seen my McCain, I've got ObamaLeg!"
yaaaa prooobably had ta be there.
My friend's cat has a bum leg and therefore was given the name "BumLeg." Our mutual friend, who tends to lean MUCH more right than we do was visiting last night, so to annoy her I started calling "BumLeg" "ObamaLeg!" And, she followed up with "Have you seen my McCain, I've got ObamaLeg!"
yaaaa prooobably had ta be there.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:25:33
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:25:33
:dance: "check it out"
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 13:31:25
BobR on 07/09/2008 13:31:25
It's alive!....
barely... :coffee2:
barely... :coffee2:
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 13:31:59
capt on 07/09/2008 13:31:59
Barack's hair is turning gray and I know why . . .
McCain is soooo melanin challenged he is actually a "White hole" (opposite of a black hole). The white hole is sucking Barack's color out of his hair as they approach the event horizon.
McCain is soooo melanin challenged he is actually a "White hole" (opposite of a black hole). The white hole is sucking Barack's color out of his hair as they approach the event horizon.
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 13:32:31
It's not the obvious lies targeted at the right that worry me - it's the subtle spin targeted at the left.
BobR on 07/09/2008 13:32:31
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, folks!
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,BushMcCain supporters that lick this stuff up.
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
It's not the obvious lies targeted at the right that worry me - it's the subtle spin targeted at the left.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:37:12
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:37:12
EW!!! EW!!! Even Velveeta is blushing and puking over that disgusting audio! Perhaps its because BillO is doing the reading. Ug. *shudder*
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:39:48
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:39:48
When did Barack Obama EVER say Iran was not a serious threat? Never. He NEVER said that. I recall him say, he would want to talk to them ( Iran ) about their threateningyness!! ( Yes, that's a word. You can look it up. )
Comment by 
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:40:08
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:40:08
Good morning!
Excellent Essay this morning Bobber. :clap:
Excellent Essay this morning Bobber. :clap:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:40:35
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:40:35
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:43:06
Did he use a ?
:thud:
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:43:06
Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:47:57
FIGHTER!
Sing it Christina!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:47:57
FIGHTER!Sing it Christina!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:50:17
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:50:17
Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:52:57
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:52:57
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:54:02
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:54:02
Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 13:54:50
I think she has an amazing voice.
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:54:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:56:04
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:56:04
Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:57:06
Oh! And, Pink. Justin, Christine and Pink...I am okay with saying that I like them all and have full albums of their music on the 'ole iPod.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:57:06
Quote by Raine:I think she has an amazing voice.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Oh! And, Pink. Justin, Christine and Pink...I am okay with saying that I like them all and have full albums of their music on the 'ole iPod.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 13:57:41
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:57:41
Oh dear. Another Georgia story...
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:01:36
NOOOOOOO! Why, God? Whyhyhyyyyyyyyyyy???!?!?!?
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:01:36
Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
NOOOOOOO! Why, God? Whyhyhyyyyyyyyyyy???!?!?!?
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 14:02:50
BobR on 07/09/2008 14:02:50
Email I got from a co-worker:
Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and
our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body,
but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and
our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body,
but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:05:31
This is gonna be a biggee!
Great email. I may have to pass that on to a few folks.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:05:31
Quote by BobR:
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
This is gonna be a biggee!
Great email. I may have to pass that on to a few folks.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:09:28
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:09:28
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:11:11
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:11:11
Oh and Pink just rocks. How can you not love someone who has a song called "Cuz I Can"
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:12:59
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:12:59
She sounds like a munchkin! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:13:26
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:13:26
OMG JIM!!!
Jim "be still my :heart:" Ward
Jim "be still my :heart:" Ward
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:14:34
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:14:34
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:14:50
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:14:50
Oh... my... God! I could listen to Steph's 80's DJ voice all day. And I've a feeling I will!
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 14:17:20
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 14:17:20
SMS Budget endorsement ...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:18:30
Ya - just not a boy band fan :shrug:
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:18:30
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
Ya - just not a boy band fan :shrug:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:19:53
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:19:53
I can't believe that Jim did his Dick Vader impression on taking the science out of that report without adding this line:
"I have altered the report. Pray I don't alter it any further."
"I have altered the report. Pray I don't alter it any further."
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:21:02
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:21:02
Good morning everyone. 
Must...get....up. :staggers: Resist...urge....to...sleep.
:Thud:
:coffee: <---- need more caffeine.
Must...get....up. :staggers: Resist...urge....to...sleep.
:Thud:
:coffee: <---- need more caffeine.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:21:07
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:21:07
"What do you know about Pressure?!"
"Well, I have kissed a man!"
"Well, I have kissed a man!"
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:22:20
No no no....let me clarify.
Boy Band? Sucky!
Justin? Awesome!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:22:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Ya - just not a boy band fan :shrug:
No no no....let me clarify.
Boy Band? Sucky!
Justin? Awesome!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:23:22
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:23:22
It's okay Mala. Nobody's perfect. 
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:26:02
TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:26:02
*sigh*
We've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. Momma needs to stop endorsing Direct Buy.
(commercial was played on the NovaM stream, for those playing at home.)
We've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. Momma needs to stop endorsing Direct Buy.
(commercial was played on the NovaM stream, for those playing at home.)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:26:57
You crack me up! :spit:
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:26:57
You crack me up! :spit:
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:27:36
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:27:36
:prince: Brick House
(ok, I'm a little sloooow this morning...)
(ok, I'm a little sloooow this morning...)
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:28:56
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:28:56
I.T. people pissed off? Wow. I am shocked I tell you. :P
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:29:06
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:29:06
I know I've grated my skin into the cheese from time to time. NUtmeg rasp not so much but that damn Mandolian will take off a finger!
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 14:30:13
:nerd: ahem...
BobR on 07/09/2008 14:30:13
Quote by Raine:
I.T. people pissed off? Wow. I am shocked I tell you. :P
:nerd: ahem...
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:31:27
At least you're awake.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:31:27
Quote by Raine:
:prince: Brick House
(ok, I'm a little sloooow this morning...)
At least you're awake.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:31:45
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:31:45
Interesting Diary at Kos...
Is there more to John Gambling than originally reported? More like an Abramoff connection???
Is there more to John Gambling than originally reported? More like an Abramoff connection???
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:32:50
I fear very few kitchen tools (including pans of grease flaming on the stove. Hey, to me that's a tool...) but I echo WP and the Mandoline. That thing scares me. And I have lost a fingertip to it, too. Blood Salad, anyone?
TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:32:50
Quote by wickedpam:
I know I've grated my skin into the cheese from time to time. NUtmeg rasp not so much but that damn Mandolian will take off a finger!
I fear very few kitchen tools (including pans of grease flaming on the stove. Hey, to me that's a tool...) but I echo WP and the Mandoline. That thing scares me. And I have lost a fingertip to it, too. Blood Salad, anyone?
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:33:21
:: forrest gump :: Momma always told me. . . if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I have always thought that about "Direct Buy."
HEY! Get kitchen cabinets for $100!!!
Really???
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:33:21
Quote by TriSec:
*sigh*
We've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. Momma needs to stop endorsing Direct Buy.
(commercial was played on the NovaM stream, for those playing at home.)
:: forrest gump :: Momma always told me. . . if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I have always thought that about "Direct Buy."
HEY! Get kitchen cabinets for $100!!!
Really???
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:34:26
Whatcha gonna do? Block my youfacetubebook?
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:34:26
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
I.T. people pissed off? Wow. I am shocked I tell you. :P
:nerd: ahem...
Whatcha gonna do? Block my youfacetubebook?
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:36:11
All you have to do is pay the $5000 entrance fee.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:36:11
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
*sigh*
We've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. Momma needs to stop endorsing Direct Buy.
(commercial was played on the NovaM stream, for those playing at home.)
:: forrest gump :: Momma always told me. . . if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I have always thought that about "Direct Buy."
HEY! Get kitchen cabinets for $100!!!
All you have to do is pay the $5000 entrance fee.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:37:59
I think someone's sleeping on the couch tonight.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:37:59
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
I.T. people pissed off? Wow. I am shocked I tell you. :P
:nerd: ahem...
Whatcha gonna do? Block my youfacetubebook?
I think someone's sleeping on the couch tonight.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:38:20
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:38:20
Huh...that seemed pretty damn clear.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:39:58
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:39:58
When people clear their throats a la McCain, in that clip, it's usually because they are PULLING SH*T OUT THEIR A**!!! ( a.k.a lying!!! )
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:41:50
Right wingers pulling stuff out of their ass. I am shocked! shocked!
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:41:50
Quote by starling310:
When people clear their throats a la McCain, in that clip, it's usually because they are PULLING SH*T OUT THEIR A**!!! ( a.k.a lying!!! )
Right wingers pulling stuff out of their ass. I am shocked! shocked!
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:42:56
TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:42:56
Speaking of politicians stammering and pausing to clear their throats whenever they're caught in a lie or worse...
Didya notice that Sen. Obama doesn't do that? He's always got an answer, no matter how bizarre the question or how unexpected the subject.
"some say" that's a canned response and politico-speak...but that tells me that he's a 'man of the world' and is aware of many things, even if he doesn't have the right answer, he has an answer.
Unlike say, "pause big enough to drive a battleship through" Bush...
Didya notice that Sen. Obama doesn't do that? He's always got an answer, no matter how bizarre the question or how unexpected the subject.
"some say" that's a canned response and politico-speak...but that tells me that he's a 'man of the world' and is aware of many things, even if he doesn't have the right answer, he has an answer.
Unlike say, "pause big enough to drive a battleship through" Bush...
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 14:44:06
capt on 07/09/2008 14:44:06
I know why the Iraqi's want our troops out. They have been there before and they want us out so they can "nationalize" the American oil companies (again).
That is why Bush and his oilgarchy pals want our troops there - to protect THEIR interests and assets.
The Iraqi's are not dumb.
That is why Bush and his oilgarchy pals want our troops there - to protect THEIR interests and assets.
The Iraqi's are not dumb.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:44:48
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:44:48
How far has Roeseanne's career shrunk that she's involved in time share pitches?
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 14:47:00
About the same as Tanya Roberts? (except not as good lookin)
capt on 07/09/2008 14:47:00
Quote by livingonli:
How far has Roeseanne's career shrunk that she's involved in time share pitches?
About the same as Tanya Roberts? (except not as good lookin)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:47:37
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:47:37
Waitresses! :dance:
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 14:52:26
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 14:52:26
He's President Hoover cause he sucks! Get it! He......... su-ck-s, er, has this joke been done already? *crickets*
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:53:01
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:53:01
And I only used my stimulus checks to pay the bills.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:54:13
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:54:13
Whenever I listen to Grampy... I just wanna 
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 14:54:20
The "Ignore" button is my friend :smug:
BobR on 07/09/2008 14:54:20
Quote by Raine:
Whatcha gonna do? Block my youfacetubebook?
The "Ignore" button is my friend :smug:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:54:48
TriSec on 07/09/2008 14:54:48
Why, Ms. Maddow said that last night....the message in McCain's latest ad is "Don't Hope!"
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:58:01
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:58:01
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 14:58:04
Raine on 07/09/2008 14:58:04
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 14:59:55
Hey, if you ever need a "donor", just let me know... :airhump:
:rofl:
BobR on 07/09/2008 14:59:55
Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
Hey, if you ever need a "donor", just let me know... :airhump:
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:01:35
The mommy gene is kickin' in a bit for you?
I never really had the mommy gene.
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:01:35
Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
The mommy gene is kickin' in a bit for you?
I never really had the mommy gene.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:04:49
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:04:49
I've never wanted to be a father so I'm glad I don't have kids.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:05:23
You'd be willing to let Raine do that?!?!
:: golf swing :: hiiiiyooo!!!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:05:23
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
Hey, if you ever need a "donor", just let me know... :airhump:
:rofl:
You'd be willing to let Raine do that?!?!
:: golf swing :: hiiiiyooo!!!
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:07:15
:rofl:
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:07:15
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
Hey, if you ever need a "donor", just let me know... :airhump:
:rofl:
You'd be willing to let Raine do that?!?!
:: golf swing :: hiiiiyooo!!!
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:07:49
Umm...not to imply that Raine is a dude. I realize now it was a bad joke!!
What I meant was :: clears throat :: :: blinky blinky :: . . . . .
I meant. . . .
Hubba Hubba.
Dammit! I blew that one.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:07:49
Umm...not to imply that Raine is a dude. I realize now it was a bad joke!! What I meant was :: clears throat :: :: blinky blinky :: . . . . .
I meant. . . .
Hubba Hubba.
Dammit! I blew that one.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:08:32
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:08:32
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
Hey, if you ever need a "donor", just let me know... :airhump:
:rofl:
You'd be willing to let Raine do that?!?!
:: golf swing :: hiiiiyooo!!!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:08:54
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:08:54
Don't even joke! I told my friend's daughter, who is going to study theater in London, that she should talk like she's from Minnesota!! :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:10:00
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:10:00
:waiting: We deserve a plug too... :(
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:10:16
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:10:16
Hey whatever happened to um....JD!? JD in NY?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:11:00
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:11:00
:rofl: OMG, Shane-O that one gets better and better.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 15:11:26
I see's her on the facebook thingy every once in awhile. 4F burnout? Dunno. I do miss her though. *sniff*
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 15:11:26
Quote by starling310:
Hey whatever happened to um....JD!? JD in NY?
I see's her on the facebook thingy every once in awhile. 4F burnout? Dunno. I do miss her though. *sniff*
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:12:24
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:12:24
OMG...I didn't think anyone else had EVER heard that song.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:12:54
Maybe someone needs to phone in.
I should phone in too. I just need to get a thought that would work.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:12:54
Quote by Raine:
:waiting: We deserve a plug too... :(
Maybe someone needs to phone in.
I should phone in too. I just need to get a thought that would work.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:13:46
yeah, she was cool.
DAG!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:13:46
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310:
Hey whatever happened to um....JD!? JD in NY?
I see's her on the facebook thingy every once in awhile. 4F burnout? Dunno. I do miss her though. *sniff*
yeah, she was cool.
DAG!
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:14:37
She always thought of herself more as a lurker. Hopefully, she's still about but just being quiet. Hopefully, someone can coax her back to post.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:14:37
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310:
Hey whatever happened to um....JD!? JD in NY?
I see's her on the facebook thingy every once in awhile. 4F burnout? Dunno. I do miss her though. *sniff*
She always thought of herself more as a lurker. Hopefully, she's still about but just being quiet. Hopefully, someone can coax her back to post.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:15:30
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:15:30
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:16:09
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:16:09
Yeah, this London plan sounds like a plan by Steph's boss, who is trying to kill her for the insurance money.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:16:47
Jaaaay Deeeee? Oh. . . Jaaaay Deeeeeee????
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:16:47
Quote by livingonli:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by starling310:
Hey whatever happened to um....JD!? JD in NY?
I see's her on the facebook thingy every once in awhile. 4F burnout? Dunno. I do miss her though. *sniff*
She always thought of herself more as a lurker. Hopefully, she's still about but just being quiet. Hopefully, someone can coax her back to post.
Jaaaay Deeeee? Oh. . . Jaaaay Deeeeeee????
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:17:06
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:17:06
See - I'm not actually nuts... or am I?
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:17:38
TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:17:38
Well, since the subject has now been broached...
I was going to post this earlier.
Your Loyal TriSec is the only member of this blog with a youngling?
Anyway, he's found a new fascination for "Veggie Tales"...it's fairly innocuous quasi-christian animation fare. But the damn songs are insidious.
In any case, I haven't researched it any further to see who might really be behind it. Javi likes the living vegetables.
I was going to post this earlier.
Your Loyal TriSec is the only member of this blog with a youngling?
Anyway, he's found a new fascination for "Veggie Tales"...it's fairly innocuous quasi-christian animation fare. But the damn songs are insidious.
In any case, I haven't researched it any further to see who might really be behind it. Javi likes the living vegetables.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 15:17:54
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 15:17:54
Getting ready for.......work.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:19:12
Why do all these Clinton people end up working with Republicans?
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:19:12
Quote by Raine:
:thud: Mark Penn and Karen Huges team up to form Crisis Communication group.
Why do all these Clinton people end up working with Republicans?
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:20:24
I'll be honest - when DJ sent that bit to me last night, the plug made me a little uncomfortable...
BUT! -- maybe a Steph 4F audicon or a Jim one? Any ideas?
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:20:24
Quote by Raine:
:waiting: We deserve a plug too... :(
BUT! -- maybe a Steph 4F audicon or a Jim one? Any ideas?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:20:50
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:20:50
Tool.
Sen. John McCain hasn't had good luck joking about Iran. But he tried it again Tuesday.
Responding to a question about a survey that shows increased exports to
Iran, mainly from cigarettes, McCain said, "Maybe thats a way of killing them."
He quickly caught himself, saying "I meant that as a joke" as his wife, Cindy, poked him in the back.
Last time, it was also Iran. His singing about bombing Iran to the theme of the Beach Boy' "Barbara Ann" drew derision from many quarters but a "lighten up" response from McCain
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:21:29
I hope so!
People have said I suffer from insanity but they are wrong, I enjoy it!
capt on 07/09/2008 15:21:29
Quote by Shane-O:
See - I'm not actually nuts... or am I?
I hope so!
People have said I suffer from insanity but they are wrong, I enjoy it!
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:22:49
Maynard G. Krebs: Work!
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:22:49
Quote by velveeta jones:
Getting ready for.......work.
Maynard G. Krebs: Work!
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:23:37
If you are here, you are nutz. And we like it that way!
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:23:37
Quote by Shane-O:
See - I'm not actually nuts... or am I?
If you are here, you are nutz. And we like it that way!
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:25:50
Funny thing happened to me years ago regarding young'uns. I was doing some computer work for some folks and they kept talking about their little one and how he loved Barney.
Well, I thought they were talking about Barney Rubble and when they mentioned a purple dinosaur I always thought they meant Dino.
It was very odd for a time. I think they thought I didn't like the kid stories.
capt on 07/09/2008 15:25:50
Quote by TriSec:
Well, since the subject has now been broached...
I was going to post this earlier.
Your Loyal TriSec is the only member of this blog with a youngling?
Anyway, he's found a new fascination for "Veggie Tales"...it's fairly innocuous quasi-christian animation fare. But the damn songs are insidious.
In any case, I haven't researched it any further to see who might really be behind it. Javi likes the living vegetables.
Funny thing happened to me years ago regarding young'uns. I was doing some computer work for some folks and they kept talking about their little one and how he loved Barney.
Well, I thought they were talking about Barney Rubble and when they mentioned a purple dinosaur I always thought they meant Dino.
It was very odd for a time. I think they thought I didn't like the kid stories.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:26:21
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:26:21
:rofl: Acorn Ham?
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:26:49
You don't have to be crazy to blog here, but it helps.
We are all bozos on this bus.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 15:26:49
Quote by Raine:Quote by Shane-O:
See - I'm not actually nuts... or am I?
If you are here, you are nutz. And we like it that way!
You don't have to be crazy to blog here, but it helps.
We are all bozos on this bus.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 07/09/2008 15:27:13
m-hadley on 07/09/2008 15:27:13
Mornin' (barely) Kids :coffee:
I had a rough night last night - not sure if it's cause I'm missing my boyz, which I am, or because I had a series of hot flashes that kept me up all night. Anyway, I'm here at work. Just a word to the youngsters on this bloggie - Getting old sucks Whadeye miss on Momma and the mooks?
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
I had a rough night last night - not sure if it's cause I'm missing my boyz, which I am, or because I had a series of hot flashes that kept me up all night. Anyway, I'm here at work. Just a word to the youngsters on this bloggie - Getting old sucks
Whadeye miss on Momma and the mooks?Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:27:39
TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:27:39
Wait a minute, back up. This ham is 3 years old??
Sorry, no.
Although me likee the prosciutto, and I know how they make that. It's at least a year old...
Sorry, no.
Although me likee the prosciutto, and I know how they make that. It's at least a year old...
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:27:42
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 15:27:42
Quote by capt:Quote by Shane-O:
See - I'm not actually nuts... or am I?
I hope so!
People have said I suffer from insanity but they are wrong, I enjoy it!
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 15:28:05
I have four year old, and he loves VeggieTales. Earlier this year, we took him to his first indoor movie (he'd seen movies at the drive-in before this), and our choice for his first was the VeggieTales "Pirates Who Don't Do Anything". Not bad, and they toned down the religious elements a bit (but not completely). They're pretty well done toons, IMHO. You're right, though, Tri; the songs get in your brain and never, eeeever leave!
clintster on 07/09/2008 15:28:05
Quote by TriSec:
Well, since the subject has now been broached...
I was going to post this earlier.
Your Loyal TriSec is the only member of this blog with a youngling?
Anyway, he's found a new fascination for "Veggie Tales"...it's fairly innocuous quasi-christian animation fare. But the damn songs are insidious.
In any case, I haven't researched it any further to see who might really be behind it. Javi likes the living vegetables.
I have four year old, and he loves VeggieTales. Earlier this year, we took him to his first indoor movie (he'd seen movies at the drive-in before this), and our choice for his first was the VeggieTales "Pirates Who Don't Do Anything". Not bad, and they toned down the religious elements a bit (but not completely). They're pretty well done toons, IMHO. You're right, though, Tri; the songs get in your brain and never, eeeever leave!
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:29:02
TriSec on 07/09/2008 15:29:02
Ah capt, the demon Barney was never welcome in our home.
I'm rather glad Javi took to The Wiggles instead.
I'm rather glad Javi took to The Wiggles instead.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 15:33:02
Jim doesn't get that much in the tunage department.
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 15:33:02
Quote by Shane-O:I'll be honest - when DJ sent that bit to me last night, the plug made me a little uncomfortable...Quote by Raine:
:waiting: We deserve a plug too... :(
BUT! -- maybe a Steph 4F audicon or a Jim one? Any ideas?
Jim doesn't get that much in the tunage department.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:35:08
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:35:08
Oh caller... you are so HIGH lair eeyous
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:36:17
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:36:17
What was the name of that book the caller mentioned?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 15:37:39
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 15:37:39
Conservative Comebacks for Liberal Lies or something like that.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:38:57
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:38:57
:rofl: Momma beams herself up nitley!
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:41:03
capt on 07/09/2008 15:41:03
Flava Flavin is mama's hip-hop name?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:41:31
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:41:31
Flav is out of his frikkin mind.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:42:03
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:42:03
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:43:37
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:43:37
:puke:
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:44:50
capt on 07/09/2008 15:44:50
OMG - no - no - never never never 
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 15:45:13
Why does Republican humor always involve killing other people?
BobR on 07/09/2008 15:45:13
Quote by Raine:
Tool.Sen. John McCain hasn't had good luck joking about Iran. But he tried it again Tuesday.
Responding to a question about a survey that shows increased exports to
Iran, mainly from cigarettes, McCain said, "Maybe thats a way of killing them."
He quickly caught himself, saying "I meant that as a joke" as his wife, Cindy, poked him in the back.
Last time, it was also Iran. His singing about bombing Iran to the theme of the Beach Boy' "Barbara Ann" drew derision from many quarters but a "lighten up" response from McCain
Why does Republican humor always involve killing other people?
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:46:59
Because one death is a tragedy while a million is a HOOT!
capt on 07/09/2008 15:46:59
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Tool.Sen. John McCain hasn't had good luck joking about Iran. But he tried it again Tuesday.
Responding to a question about a survey that shows increased exports to
Iran, mainly from cigarettes, McCain said, "Maybe thats a way of killing them."
He quickly caught himself, saying "I meant that as a joke" as his wife, Cindy, poked him in the back.
Last time, it was also Iran. His singing about bombing Iran to the theme of the Beach Boy' "Barbara Ann" drew derision from many quarters but a "lighten up" response from McCain
Why does Republican humor always involve killing other people?
Because one death is a tragedy while a million is a HOOT!
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 15:47:46
So basically it's like "Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions", except unintentionally funny, and nowhere near as informative.
clintster on 07/09/2008 15:47:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Conservative Comebacks for Liberal Lies or something like that.
So basically it's like "Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions", except unintentionally funny, and nowhere near as informative.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:50:19
capt on 07/09/2008 15:50:19
Love Mrs Chocula!
That cracks me up everytime!
That cracks me up everytime!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:50:38
<----- bug's teeth.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 15:50:38
<----- bug's teeth.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:51:41
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:51:41
Actually Chelsea was pretty young.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:54:13
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:54:13
That music is hilarious!!!
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:54:23
capt on 07/09/2008 15:54:23
Seriously, the "gallows humor" is a indication they are scared little puppies. They try to joke about their greatest fears. They prove they are little boys by trying to act and sound all tough and grown up. Like when Bush mocked Carla Faye Tucker.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:55:18
capt on 07/09/2008 15:55:18
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 15:58:04
Raine on 07/09/2008 15:58:04
I said it yesterday and I will say it again... Republicans can fill stadiums too...
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 15:59:37
capt on 07/09/2008 15:59:37
Obama plans unprecedented campaign staff numbers in Missouri
(the money quote)
“I think we’ve got a good shot at winning and I want to be greedy,” Obama said last week. “I want to win as many states as possible.”
(the money quote)
“I think we’ve got a good shot at winning and I want to be greedy,” Obama said last week. “I want to win as many states as possible.”
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:08:13
It would also lessen the odds of the Republicans stealing the election.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:08:13
Quote by capt:
Obama plans unprecedented campaign staff numbers in Missouri
(the money quote)
“I think we’ve got a good shot at winning and I want to be greedy,” Obama said last week. “I want to win as many states as possible.”
It would also lessen the odds of the Republicans stealing the election.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 16:09:03
*lawyer impression*
I like to ask you to refrain from anymore unauthorized usage of my name.
Random on 07/09/2008 16:09:03
Quote by starling310:
Random thought: I was chatting with my friend last night and I expressed my feeling that it will seem odd to me if I never have kids.
I didn't think I'd ever feel that way. But, I do. Hmmm.......
*lawyer impression*
I like to ask you to refrain from anymore unauthorized usage of my name.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:09:03
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:09:03
you know, I am not pleased about Neil and Momma doing part of the show together tomorrow. If I wanted to listen to Boortz, I could turn on the radio.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 16:10:38
I was hoping he would not takke anything - any state or any vote for granted.
This is not a win until we've won. Nothing is more important right now for every person on the face of the planet.
capt on 07/09/2008 16:10:38
Quote by livingonli:Quote by capt:
Obama plans unprecedented campaign staff numbers in Missouri
(the money quote)
“I think we’ve got a good shot at winning and I want to be greedy,” Obama said last week. “I want to win as many states as possible.”
It would also lessen the odds of the Republicans stealing the election.
I was hoping he would not takke anything - any state or any vote for granted.
This is not a win until we've won. Nothing is more important right now for every person on the face of the planet.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:10:50
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:10:50
:spit: Random™ that was pretty funny!
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:12:06
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:12:06
Jonah Goldberg ... blech.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 16:13:27
Boortz is an idiot and a jerk.
capt on 07/09/2008 16:13:27
Quote by Raine:
you know, I am not pleased about Neil and Momma doing part of the show together tomorrow. If I wanted to listen to Boortz, I could turn on the radio.
Boortz is an idiot and a jerk.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 16:14:03
well, thanks.
I got very confused when i saw that...scared Random™.
Random on 07/09/2008 16:14:03
Quote by Raine:
:spit: Random™ that was pretty funny!
well, thanks.
I got very confused when i saw that...scared Random™.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 16:15:38
capt on 07/09/2008 16:15:38
Sorry, I shouldn't be a name caller.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:16:13
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:16:13
:rolleyes: Jonah is quite a piece of work.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:17:13
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:17:13
I gotta do it. I do a some audicons, but these two together... still make me laugh...
:bow: To Mr. Olbermann...
:bow: To Mr. Olbermann...
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:17:24
There's someone who needs Karma payback.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:17:24
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
you know, I am not pleased about Neil and Momma doing part of the show together tomorrow. If I wanted to listen to Boortz, I could turn on the radio.
Boortz is an idiot and a jerk.
There's someone who needs Karma payback.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:18:14
pfff. What name calling? I saw truth written.
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:18:14
Quote by capt:
Sorry, I shouldn't be a name caller.
pfff. What name calling? I saw truth written.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 16:18:39
capt on 07/09/2008 16:18:39
I think Goldblarge is just making stuff up. Less volunteerism as measured by what and where?
He is a piece of something - not sure it's work . . .
He is a piece of something - not sure it's work . . .
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:19:13
™ I LOVE IT!
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:19:13
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
:spit: Random™ that was pretty funny!
well, thanks.
I got very confused when i saw that...scared Random™.
I LOVE IT!
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:19:19
Is he going off on how liberals are fascists again?
livingonli on 07/09/2008 16:19:19
Quote by Raine:
:rolleyes: Jonah is quite a piece of work.
Is he going off on how liberals are fascists again?
Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 16:21:31
having seen his latest article?
here....mainly because i don't post links from anywhere else, here is Wonkette's take
Random on 07/09/2008 16:21:31
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
:rolleyes: Jonah is quite a piece of work.
Is he going off on how liberals are fascists again?
having seen his latest article?
here....mainly because i don't post links from anywhere else, here is Wonkette's take
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 16:24:42
That first one give me Brigantine Castle flashbacks :wacko:
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 16:24:42
Quote by Shane-O:
I gotta do it. I do a some audicons, but these two together... still make me laugh...
:bow: To Mr. Olbermann...
That first one give me Brigantine Castle flashbacks :wacko:
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 16:24:55
Raine on 07/09/2008 16:24:55
Natioanl Service? What a concept! Involuntary Servitude?!?! Jonah Golberg really is an ass.
Jonah Golberg really is an ass.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:28:04
And DJ (from the Empire State) used the Bach in his Count bit this a.m.
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 16:28:04
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:
I gotta do it. I do a some audicons, but these two together... still make me laugh...
:bow: To Mr. Olbermann...
That first one give me Brigantine Castle flashbacks :wacko:
Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 16:30:19
i don't get it...probably because i'm young and stupid, and i didn't have the stomach to look too closely. but is he actually comparing giving benifets to involuntary servitude?
might I also add, that i might actually like being Obama's slave. (Filled quota for disturbing sexual refence for the day)
Random on 07/09/2008 16:30:19
Quote by Raine:
Natioanl Service? What a concept! Involuntary Servitude?!?!
i don't get it...probably because i'm young and stupid, and i didn't have the stomach to look too closely. but is he actually comparing giving benifets to involuntary servitude?
might I also add, that i might actually like being Obama's slave. (Filled quota for disturbing sexual refence for the day)
Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 16:35:51
Random on 07/09/2008 16:35:51
ohhh, i get it. He's basically saying, Obama wants to make these kids work to get money? well, gee, that is soo unfair, they should just get the money, why the hell do they have to prove themselves?
damn you Obama, and you're belief that rewards should be rewarded for doing work, and not just given out.
damn you Obama, and you're belief that rewards should be rewarded for doing work, and not just given out.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:42:29
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:42:29
Morni...errafternoon all Coming late today, started my PT this morning. This doc thinks I have a bit more than a sprained muscle...possibly a pinched nerve.
Coming late today, started my PT this morning. This doc thinks I have a bit more than a sprained muscle...possibly a pinched nerve.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:43:50
I wonder what Jonah's opinion is on the 2-year "involuntary servitude" that is the Israeli Armed Forces..
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:43:50
Quote by Raine:
Natioanl Service? What a concept! Involuntary Servitude?!?!
I wonder what Jonah's opinion is on the 2-year "involuntary servitude" that is the Israeli Armed Forces..
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:48:14
As if working for a multinational corporation for pay rates so low you can even afford a place to live, or even to drive to the job anymore, ISN'T involuntary servitude...
What world is this neoconservative turd living in anyways..
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 16:48:14
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Natioanl Service? What a concept! Involuntary Servitude?!?!
i don't get it...probably because i'm young and stupid, and i didn't have the stomach to look too closely. but is he actually comparing giving benifets to involuntary servitude?
As if working for a multinational corporation for pay rates so low you can even afford a place to live, or even to drive to the job anymore, ISN'T involuntary servitude...
What world is this neoconservative turd living in anyways..
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 16:57:14
capt on 07/09/2008 16:57:14
The bracelet? Orwellian is a gross understatement.
From HERE
'Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is
this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are
not interested in the good of others ; we are interested solely
in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only
power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand
presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the
past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even
those who resembled ourselves, were- cowards and hypocrites.
The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to
us in their methods, but they never had the courage to
recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even
believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a
limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a
paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not
like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the
intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an
end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to
safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to
establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is
persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of
power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?'
From HERE
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2008 17:02:09
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 17:02:09
Oh yeah.. get this shit. My governor Don "The Don" Carcieri has been harassing the mayor of Providence (David Cicilline) lately because The Don claims Providence cops aren't checking those arrested on their immigration status. The Mayor claims they are checking, and referring such cases to the federal ICE bureau but that there's a lagtime before the feds come in and process such cases, which costs the state dept. of corrections lots of money, which the state doesn't have.
Basically, Carcieri wants to look good by being "tight with the taxpayer money" and taking advantage of the whole boogeyman immigration thing, probably so he can run against Sheldon Whitehouse for the senate seat in a few years. It's gone so far that Bill O'Reilly picked up the story and interviewed The Don:
I'm just glad this dipshit is term-limited. Too bad you can't say the same for O'Reilly, whose "joke" about having the mayor arrested for "violating his oath of office" was most likely not a joke but a shot and a talking point for the people in Barringotn and East Greenwich.
Basically, Carcieri wants to look good by being "tight with the taxpayer money" and taking advantage of the whole boogeyman immigration thing, probably so he can run against Sheldon Whitehouse for the senate seat in a few years. It's gone so far that Bill O'Reilly picked up the story and interviewed The Don:
Projo: Carcieri speaks out on TV on illegal immigrants
Governor Carcieri spent several minutes last night on national television during an appearance on The O’Reilly Factor criticizing Providence’s mayor and police chief for not endorsing his attempt to curb illegal immigration.
The governor cited the recent arrest in Providence of Marco Riz, an illegal immigrant arrested several times before he allegedly kidnapped and raped a Warwick woman, as an example of the need for his executive order.
...
Carcieri told O’Reilly that police officers can connect directly into the computers of immigration officials to see if a criminal suspect they’ve arrested has an immigration warrant or deportation order against them.
But what Providence is doing, said Carcieri, is “faxing a list of names at the end of the day of all their arrests, which is totally unhelpful.”
...
O’Reilly joked that the governor should make a citizen’s arrest of Mayor Cicilline. Carcieri chuckled and then had to explain that his executive order was for those who ran the state, not the city.
O’Reilly said Cicilline declined to appear on his show. He said the mayor was “hiding under his desk.”
I'm just glad this dipshit is term-limited. Too bad you can't say the same for O'Reilly, whose "joke" about having the mayor arrested for "violating his oath of office" was most likely not a joke but a shot and a talking point for the people in Barringotn and East Greenwich.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:04:56
starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:04:56
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what? 
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 17:07:57
capt on 07/09/2008 17:07:57
A bear "terrorizes" the neighborhood; the new bear patrol causes taxes to be raised. Mayor Quimby decides to blame the immigrants, who will all be deported, depending on the outcome of the proposition 24. Apu turns to Fat Tony and then the Simpson family. Apu slowly wins the Simpsons' support. He decides to take a citizenship test after Lisa discovers he qualifies. He is short on time though, so Homer helps him cram like he has never crammed before. Homer fills his head with historical "facts" (remember that Homer is really stupid). The vote on Prop 24 approaches. The town votes to deport all illegal immigrants... except Apu, the Bee Guy, Dr. Nick, and Moe, who've all passed their citizenship tests.
Much Apu About Nothing
When I hear "blame the immigrants" I think of this episode.
Much Apu About Nothing
When I hear "blame the immigrants" I think of this episode.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 17:10:40
Well, you just reminded me I have to get a bottle for my funny little honey! I have forgotten for DAYS!
Thanks
capt on 07/09/2008 17:10:40
Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Well, you just reminded me I have to get a bottle for my funny little honey! I have forgotten for DAYS!
Thanks
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 17:10:59
Actually, he likened Liberals to wanting to own slaves...
Raine on 07/09/2008 17:10:59
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
:rolleyes: Jonah is quite a piece of work.
Is he going off on how liberals are fascists again?
Actually, he likened Liberals to wanting to own slaves...
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 17:14:33
You could actually keep one or two around the Cubicle....
Oh, wait. Then you would be giving and giving again...
Raine on 07/09/2008 17:14:33
Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Oh, wait. Then you would be giving and giving again...
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 17:14:53
Sounds like someone is being paid a handsome fee to hang with a right wingnut and push American radio in England and Ireland. Stephanie considers Sean and Laura Ingraham friends and now this dog and poany show. I smell a sellout.
What is the real point of this trip anyhoo? Radio is having some troubles, but now they have to pander to Europe. WTF. Are they going for the internets crowd. Maybe she can sell her podcasts over there. It leaves me with an icky feeling, too.
Regarding radio ads, radio personalities will hawk anything for the money. The Tahiti Village ads are the worst. They're talking to a recording of Roseanne and Tanya, and they all have the same stupid script. Hello? Ad people? I do listen to more than one station and radio personality. I ain't buying the bullshit and you're not going to make up for the advertising costs on my bill. This is why I support local businesses, except for rental cars. I just don't trust the guy in the vacant lot with the Pintos and Gremlins for $9.99 a day.
Scoopster. Hope the shoulder feels better soon. I have felt your pain.
IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 17:14:53
Quote by Raine:
you know, I am not pleased about Neil and Momma doing part of the show together tomorrow. If I wanted to listen to Boortz, I could turn on the radio.
Sounds like someone is being paid a handsome fee to hang with a right wingnut and push American radio in England and Ireland. Stephanie considers Sean and Laura Ingraham friends and now this dog and poany show. I smell a sellout.
What is the real point of this trip anyhoo? Radio is having some troubles, but now they have to pander to Europe. WTF. Are they going for the internets crowd. Maybe she can sell her podcasts over there. It leaves me with an icky feeling, too.
Regarding radio ads, radio personalities will hawk anything for the money. The Tahiti Village ads are the worst. They're talking to a recording of Roseanne and Tanya, and they all have the same stupid script. Hello? Ad people? I do listen to more than one station and radio personality. I ain't buying the bullshit and you're not going to make up for the advertising costs on my bill. This is why I support local businesses, except for rental cars. I just don't trust the guy in the vacant lot with the Pintos and Gremlins for $9.99 a day.
Scoopster. Hope the shoulder feels better soon. I have felt your pain.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:14:56
Some people are just ignorant idiots.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:14:56
Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Some people are just ignorant idiots.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:21:39
livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:21:39
Hi Izzy. How's LA treating you?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 17:24:41
Raine on 07/09/2008 17:24:41
Aww Madison sounded so young and so smart!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 17:33:12
Math -
Joe Blow buys 3 bottles of water a day at 1.50 each--- 4.50/day
He does this 5 days a week ------------------------------x 5
In total he spends-----------------------------------------22.50 a wk on bottled water
There are 4 weeks in a month----------------------------x 4
That's -----------------------------------------------------90.00 a month
There are 12 months in a year---------------------------x 12
That's------------------------------------------------------1080.00 a year. :thud:
Cost to buy a refillable water bottle? @ $10
Cost of the water - varible depending on souce (I use the tap at about .33 a day)
(.33 x 5 days = 1.65)
(1.65 x 4 weeks = 6.60)
(6.60 x 12 months = 79.20)
Cost per year 10.00+ 79.20 = 89.20
Savings
1080.00
- 89.20
---------
990.80
That make sense other then in my head?
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 17:33:12
Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Math -
Joe Blow buys 3 bottles of water a day at 1.50 each--- 4.50/day
He does this 5 days a week ------------------------------x 5
In total he spends-----------------------------------------22.50 a wk on bottled water
There are 4 weeks in a month----------------------------x 4
That's -----------------------------------------------------90.00 a month
There are 12 months in a year---------------------------x 12
That's------------------------------------------------------1080.00 a year. :thud:
Cost to buy a refillable water bottle? @ $10
Cost of the water - varible depending on souce (I use the tap at about .33 a day)
(.33 x 5 days = 1.65)
(1.65 x 4 weeks = 6.60)
(6.60 x 12 months = 79.20)
Cost per year 10.00+ 79.20 = 89.20
Savings
1080.00
- 89.20
---------
990.80
That make sense other then in my head?
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:36:50
Oh Raine....God, yer a cute little thing....giving people the benefit of the doubt that the problem is not that they do own a bottle and are just too lazy to actually use it.
:: pat pat pat ::
starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:36:50
Quote by Raine:You could actually keep one or two around the Cubicle....Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Oh, wait. Then you would be giving and giving again...
Oh Raine....God, yer a cute little thing....giving people the benefit of the doubt that the problem is not that they do own a bottle and are just too lazy to actually use it.
:: pat pat pat ::
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:45:34
starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:45:34
It's always the smokers that people use in their health care debate!
What about the guy who works under stress 80 hours a week? He's just itchin' for a heart attack.
Should we pay for him Jeff?
What about the guy who works under stress 80 hours a week? He's just itchin' for a heart attack.
Should we pay for him Jeff?
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:49:23
What am I, chopped liver?
livingonli on 07/09/2008 17:49:23
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:You could actually keep one or two around the Cubicle....Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Oh, wait. Then you would be giving and giving again...
Oh Raine....God, yer a cute little thing....giving people the benefit of the doubt that the problem is not that they do own a bottle and are just too lazy to actually use it.
:: pat pat pat ::
What am I, chopped liver?
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 17:51:55
capt on 07/09/2008 17:51:55
Thom is too nice to some people.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:53:27
starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:53:27
Oh. And, Jeff...the biggest Cancer out there? Prostate Cancer, my friend. And, that doesn't only plague smokers. Get your facts straight, ass hat.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 17:57:03
capt on 07/09/2008 17:57:03
Number one cause of lung cancer is radon gas.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 17:58:16
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 17:58:16
I would love for my insurance to foot some of the bill for my trying to loose weight. They don't pay for what I'm doing, only the surgery. Which is ridiculus and far more risky. Plus I don't know anyone who's had the surgery who hasn't gained more then half of it all back.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:59:16
No...but, I would have to say this person is neither ignorant, nor and idiot. They are simply lazy. And, I don't know how to get them to see that it's not that difficult to carry your refillable bottle down to the cafe at lunch to fill it.
Mala...I like that math...and, I have tried that.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 17:59:16
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:You could actually keep one or two around the Cubicle....Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Oh, wait. Then you would be giving and giving again...
Oh Raine....God, yer a cute little thing....giving people the benefit of the doubt that the problem is not that they do own a bottle and are just too lazy to actually use it.
:: pat pat pat ::
What am I, chopped liver?
No...but, I would have to say this person is neither ignorant, nor and idiot. They are simply lazy. And, I don't know how to get them to see that it's not that difficult to carry your refillable bottle down to the cafe at lunch to fill it.
Mala...I like that math...and, I have tried that.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 18:00:20
capt on 07/09/2008 18:00:20
Here's one for the memory banks . .
Number one cause of liver failure in the US?
Tylenol. (acetaminophen)
Yet the M$M makes $$$ marketing multiple products that all contain acetaminophen.
Business loves the profit more than the people.
Number one cause of liver failure in the US?
Tylenol. (acetaminophen)
Yet the M$M makes $$$ marketing multiple products that all contain acetaminophen.
Business loves the profit more than the people.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:02:03
Hi Livin. Life is good. Fun social things this week, but the weather is weird. Right now, it's overcast, humid and cool, but inland it is kinda hot. This time of year is always strange. Gas price went down $.06 from last week. Thank goodness I only have to get annoyed about once a month at the pump. I try not to look at the signs when I drive by, but morbid curiousity gets me every time.
Starling, you work with kuckleheads! If they have desks (I assume they don't sit on the floor), they can bring a coffee cup or tumbler from home and not spend any money at all. If you have a water cooler, BONUS! If not, tap water is fine because tests have shown that bottled and tap have pretty much the same amount of cooties.
IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:02:03
Quote by livingonli:
Hi Izzy. How's LA treating you?
Hi Livin. Life is good. Fun social things this week, but the weather is weird. Right now, it's overcast, humid and cool, but inland it is kinda hot. This time of year is always strange. Gas price went down $.06 from last week. Thank goodness I only have to get annoyed about once a month at the pump. I try not to look at the signs when I drive by, but morbid curiousity gets me every time.
Starling, you work with kuckleheads! If they have desks (I assume they don't sit on the floor), they can bring a coffee cup or tumbler from home and not spend any money at all. If you have a water cooler, BONUS! If not, tap water is fine because tests have shown that bottled and tap have pretty much the same amount of cooties.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:03:06
- hey if they aren't willing to try and save themselve $1000 bucks then it's their lose. That could buy then roughly 250 gallons of gas instead. Or it could pay for a nice weekend away. But like I said - it's their lose.
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:03:06
- hey if they aren't willing to try and save themselve $1000 bucks then it's their lose. That could buy then roughly 250 gallons of gas instead. Or it could pay for a nice weekend away. But like I said - it's their lose.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:05:02
Why I changed from Tylenol to Motrin. Had it mess up my liver numbers one year and gave me and the doc a scare. Since I stopped taking it my numbers are normal.
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:05:02
Quote by capt:
Here's one for the memory banks . .
Number one cause of liver failure in the US?
Tylenol. (acetaminophen)
Yet the M$M makes $$$ marketing multiple products that all contain acetaminophen.
Business loves the profit more than the people.
Why I changed from Tylenol to Motrin. Had it mess up my liver numbers one year and gave me and the doc a scare. Since I stopped taking it my numbers are normal.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:06:10
Thanks capt. I am just tired of smokers being the "reason" that people don't want Universal Health Care. The way we live in general is starting to kill most of us...so, don't peg it all on the tobacco people. You think what's coming out of the tailpipe of your car is much better for your lungs?
Eh hem.
No further questions your Honor. The Defense rests.
( and will be outside having a cigarette )
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:06:10
Quote by capt:
Number one cause of lung cancer is radon gas.
Thanks capt. I am just tired of smokers being the "reason" that people don't want Universal Health Care. The way we live in general is starting to kill most of us...so, don't peg it all on the tobacco people. You think what's coming out of the tailpipe of your car is much better for your lungs?
Eh hem.
No further questions your Honor. The Defense rests.
( and will be outside having a cigarette )
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:12:12
One of the "Fringe Benefits" in our office is that we are provided with desks. AND, very often we will receive mugs/cups with the company logo on them as "giveaways" for product releases, etc. AND, we do have a water cooler as well as bubblers. There is NO excuse to buy bottled water 'round here.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:12:12
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Starling, you work with kuckleheads! If they have desks (I assume they don't sit on the floor), they can bring a coffee cup or tumbler from home and not spend any money at all. If you have a water cooler, BONUS! If not, tap water is fine because tests have shown that bottled and tap have pretty much the same amount of cooties.
One of the "Fringe Benefits" in our office is that we are provided with desks. AND, very often we will receive mugs/cups with the company logo on them as "giveaways" for product releases, etc. AND, we do have a water cooler as well as bubblers. There is NO excuse to buy bottled water 'round here.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:12:21
Starling is frisky today. You go girl!
IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:12:21
Quote by starling310:
Oh. And, Jeff...the biggest Cancer out there? Prostate Cancer, my friend. And, that doesn't only plague smokers. Get your facts straight, ass hat.
Starling is frisky today. You go girl!
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:14:05
The surgery is only beneficial for the "morbidly obese". I have a dear friend that was pushing 600 lbs when he had the surgery. His weight dropped to under 150 within a year and he's stayed there.
It's the twits trying to lose 50 pounds and demanding the surgery that have the most problems with it, IMHO.
TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:14:05
Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for my insurance to foot some of the bill for my trying to loose weight. They don't pay for what I'm doing, only the surgery. Which is ridiculus and far more risky. Plus I don't know anyone who's had the surgery who hasn't gained more then half of it all back.
The surgery is only beneficial for the "morbidly obese". I have a dear friend that was pushing 600 lbs when he had the surgery. His weight dropped to under 150 within a year and he's stayed there.
It's the twits trying to lose 50 pounds and demanding the surgery that have the most problems with it, IMHO.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:14:37
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:14:37
Oh. Well those people with Asthma should just vaccuu more. I am not gonna pay for their Health Care. 
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:15:16
TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:15:16
The Red Sox Stink, btw.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 18:17:34
capt on 07/09/2008 18:17:34
I smoke.
I quit once for two years and used to quit during the ski season but now it is like the last in a long line of bad habits. Holding on hard!
I quit once for two years and used to quit during the ski season but now it is like the last in a long line of bad habits. Holding on hard!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:17:39
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:17:39
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by starling310:
Oh. And, Jeff...the biggest Cancer out there? Prostate Cancer, my friend. And, that doesn't only plague smokers. Get your facts straight, ass hat.
Starling is frisky today. You go girl!
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 18:19:58
capt on 07/09/2008 18:19:58
I am not partial to several tropical diseases - and anybody that gets an infection should be on their own - the GOT it - not my fault - I didn't give it.
And broken limbs? fuggetaboutit!
And broken limbs? fuggetaboutit!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:20:06
They just tied it up!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:20:06
Quote by TriSec:
The Red Sox Stink, btw.
They just tied it up!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:20:57
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:20:57
They just went up by 1! :banana: ( that merits 2 bananas )
:banana: ( that merits 2 bananas )
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 18:23:01
capt on 07/09/2008 18:23:01
We should all chip in and start an insurance company for young skinny people without kids who never go to the doctors. We could charge less and make more?
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:24:06
IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 18:24:06
Well, Starling, it seems all of the ducks are in a row, so a friendly nudge or a joke might do the trick. If not, you tried to do a random act of kindness for mother nature. 
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:26:33
i did.
just seems like a no brainer.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:26:33
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Well, Starling, it seems all of the ducks are in a row, so a friendly nudge or a joke might do the trick. If not, you tried to do a random act of kindness for mother nature.
i did. just seems like a no brainer.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:27:37
TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:27:37
And now the Sox are smelling much better.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:29:22
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:29:22
Chris Dodd. You rock. He voted Yea on both Amendments.
LIEberman on the other hand. You should be ashamed of yourself.
LIEberman on the other hand. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:30:06
It's strange not to be in 1st Place.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:30:06
Quote by TriSec:
And now the Sox are smelling much better.
It's strange not to be in 1st Place.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:31:03
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:31:03
I am going to go get some M&M's. Don't worry. I have NO expectations that any of you would pay my Dental bills.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:36:05
But in all honesty, I've had doc's recommend the surgery instead of the safe way of diet and exercise cause my insurance pays for me to cut open instead of someone trying to show me how to eat healthy and get a gym pass.
It's an endless vicious circle. At which I'm still stuck at losing only 40lbs and I still have so much farther to go, right now I'd just be happy to lose another 10.
Okay - I'm done whining......
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:36:05
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for my insurance to foot some of the bill for my trying to loose weight. They don't pay for what I'm doing, only the surgery. Which is ridiculus and far more risky. Plus I don't know anyone who's had the surgery who hasn't gained more then half of it all back.
Sad thing is I am talking about those who are "morbidly obese". I know at least 2 people who lost a good 100-175 lbs but gained more then half back. That's not healthy either.
Yeah the idiots how want it for 50 don't want to do the work.
The surgery is only beneficial for the "morbidly obese". I have a dear friend that was pushing 600 lbs when he had the surgery. His weight dropped to under 150 within a year and he's stayed there.
It's the twits trying to lose 50 pounds and demanding the surgery that have the most problems with it, IMHO.
But in all honesty, I've had doc's recommend the surgery instead of the safe way of diet and exercise cause my insurance pays for me to cut open instead of someone trying to show me how to eat healthy and get a gym pass.
It's an endless vicious circle. At which I'm still stuck at losing only 40lbs and I still have so much farther to go, right now I'd just be happy to lose another 10.
Okay - I'm done whining......
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:38:33
My $0.2: I've always thought that Gym Memberships should be covered by insurance policies if you could submit proof of attendance somehow.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:38:33
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for my insurance to foot some of the bill for my trying to loose weight. They don't pay for what I'm doing, only the surgery. Which is ridiculus and far more risky. Plus I don't know anyone who's had the surgery who hasn't gained more then half of it all back.
Sad thing is I am talking about those who are "morbidly obese". I know at least 2 people who lost a good 100-175 lbs but gained more then half back. That's not healthy either.
Yeah the idiots how want it for 50 don't want to do the work.
The surgery is only beneficial for the "morbidly obese". I have a dear friend that was pushing 600 lbs when he had the surgery. His weight dropped to under 150 within a year and he's stayed there.
It's the twits trying to lose 50 pounds and demanding the surgery that have the most problems with it, IMHO.
But in all honesty, I've had doc's recommend the surgery instead of the safe way of diet and exercise cause my insurance pays for me to cut open instead of someone trying to show me how to eat healthy and get a gym pass.
It's an endless vicious circle. At which I'm still stuck at losing only 40lbs and I still have so much farther to go, right now I'd just be happy to lose another 10.
Okay - I'm done whining......
My $0.2: I've always thought that Gym Memberships should be covered by insurance policies if you could submit proof of attendance somehow.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 18:41:49
Raine on 07/09/2008 18:41:49
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Number one cause of lung cancer is radon gas.
Thanks capt. I am just tired of smokers being the "reason" that people don't want Universal Health Care. The way we live in general is starting to kill most of us...so, don't peg it all on the tobacco people. You think what's coming out of the tailpipe of your car is much better for your lungs?
Eh hem.
No further questions your Honor. The Defense rests.
( and will be outside having a cigarette )
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:41:50
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:41:50
France has a huge smoking population.
France has Universal Health Care.
France has Universal Health Care.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 18:42:15
capt on 07/09/2008 18:42:15
I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
~ Buzz Aldrin (1930 - )
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:42:31
I agree. :clap:
But since I can't have a gym membership I bought the WiiFit and it's kicking my ass
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 18:42:31
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for my insurance to foot some of the bill for my trying to loose weight. They don't pay for what I'm doing, only the surgery. Which is ridiculus and far more risky. Plus I don't know anyone who's had the surgery who hasn't gained more then half of it all back.
Sad thing is I am talking about those who are "morbidly obese". I know at least 2 people who lost a good 100-175 lbs but gained more then half back. That's not healthy either.
Yeah the idiots how want it for 50 don't want to do the work.
The surgery is only beneficial for the "morbidly obese". I have a dear friend that was pushing 600 lbs when he had the surgery. His weight dropped to under 150 within a year and he's stayed there.
It's the twits trying to lose 50 pounds and demanding the surgery that have the most problems with it, IMHO.
But in all honesty, I've had doc's recommend the surgery instead of the safe way of diet and exercise cause my insurance pays for me to cut open instead of someone trying to show me how to eat healthy and get a gym pass.
It's an endless vicious circle. At which I'm still stuck at losing only 40lbs and I still have so much farther to go, right now I'd just be happy to lose another 10.
Okay - I'm done whining......
My $0.2: I've always thought that Gym Memberships should be covered by insurance policies if you could submit proof of attendance somehow.
I agree. :clap:
But since I can't have a gym membership I bought the WiiFit and it's kicking my ass
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:44:43
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:44:43
Quote by capt:I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
~ Buzz Aldrin (1930 - )
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:47:33
Don't get me wrong...for the most part I try to live well, because I simply feel better. I feel better when I drink enough water. I feel better when I am at a certain weight. I feel better after a good bike ride when I am sweaty and exhausted. I feel better since I don't eat meat. Etc. . .
The one vice that lingers is that I am a social smoker.
But, no one is immune to death and I tend to agree with Buzz on that point.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:47:33
Quote by capt:I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
~ Buzz Aldrin (1930 - )
Don't get me wrong...for the most part I try to live well, because I simply feel better. I feel better when I drink enough water. I feel better when I am at a certain weight. I feel better after a good bike ride when I am sweaty and exhausted. I feel better since I don't eat meat. Etc. . .
The one vice that lingers is that I am a social smoker.
But, no one is immune to death and I tend to agree with Buzz on that point.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 18:49:00
Now you know what it's like to be a Yankee fan....
:spit:
Raine on 07/09/2008 18:49:00
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
And now the Sox are smelling much better.
It's strange not to be in 1st Place.
:spit:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:49:50
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:49:50
Ooh. I am starting to chafe from being on my High Horse all day.
: dismounts :
: dismounts :
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:50:16
:spit:
starling310 on 07/09/2008 18:50:16
Quote by Raine:Now you know what it's like to be a Yankee fan....Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
And now the Sox are smelling much better.
It's strange not to be in 1st Place.
:spit:
:spit:
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 18:53:52
It made sense to me! (Math is HARD for me)
Bobber would be proud!
Raine on 07/09/2008 18:53:52
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
How do you get people to do things like USE A REFILLABLE WATER BOTTLE without sounding preachy!?!?!?!
I try to lead by example. I try to gently mention it. I give and I give and I give! And for what?
Math -
Joe Blow buys 3 bottles of water a day at 1.50 each--- 4.50/day
He does this 5 days a week ------------------------------x 5
In total he spends-----------------------------------------22.50 a wk on bottled water
There are 4 weeks in a month----------------------------x 4
That's -----------------------------------------------------90.00 a month
There are 12 months in a year---------------------------x 12
That's------------------------------------------------------1080.00 a year. :thud:
Cost to buy a refillable water bottle? @ $10
Cost of the water - varible depending on souce (I use the tap at about .33 a day)
(.33 x 5 days = 1.65)
(1.65 x 4 weeks = 6.60)
(6.60 x 12 months = 79.20)
Cost per year 10.00+ 79.20 = 89.20
Savings
1080.00
- 89.20
---------
990.80
That make sense other then in my head?
Bobber would be proud!
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:59:05
TriSec on 07/09/2008 18:59:05
Say now, we've had to deal with "not being in first place" for 86 years. Turnabout is fair play in that regard.
But it is interesting...they did mention on the teevee mosheen over the weekend that this was the first July 4th weekend since 1999 that neither the Sox or the Yanks were in first place at this time...
But it is interesting...they did mention on the teevee mosheen over the weekend that this was the first July 4th weekend since 1999 that neither the Sox or the Yanks were in first place at this time...
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 18:59:44
Tosses Squeeze Bottle of Rain... er... wait.... Gold Bond Soothing powder.
Raine on 07/09/2008 18:59:44
Quote by starling310:
Ooh. I am starting to chafe from being on my High Horse all day.
: dismounts :
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:00:17
Thank you for that Fun Fact.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:00:17
Quote by TriSec:
Say now, we've had to deal with "not being in first place" for 86 years. Turnabout is fair play in that regard.
But it is interesting...they did mention on the teevee mosheen over the weekend that this was the first July 4th weekend since 1999 that neither the Sox or the Yanks were in first place at this time...
Thank you for that Fun Fact.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 19:02:16
Since 1999, huh? Interesting... VEDDY interesting.
Raine on 07/09/2008 19:02:16
Quote by TriSec:
Say now, we've had to deal with "not being in first place" for 86 years. Turnabout is fair play in that regard.
But it is interesting...they did mention on the teevee mosheen over the weekend that this was the first July 4th weekend since 1999 that neither the Sox or the Yanks were in first place at this time...
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:02:18
Aaaahhh....thank you.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:02:18
Quote by Raine:TossesQuote by starling310:
Ooh. I am starting to chafe from being on my High Horse all day.
: dismounts :Squeeze Bottle of Rain... er... wait.... Gold Bond Soothing powder.
Aaaahhh....thank you.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 19:04:23
Raine on 07/09/2008 19:04:23
OK, maybe someone more knowledgeable can help me. Does the entire world NEED to know where the strategic Reserves are kept?
Has this always been common knowledge?
Has this always been common knowledge?
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 19:05:57
Another good math comparison is $/gal between bottled water and gasoline. One gallon is 127 ounces. Even being conservative and saying a 20 ounce bottle of water is $1.00, that still makes bottled water $6.00/gallon... :thud:
BobR on 07/09/2008 19:05:57
Quote by Raine:
It made sense to me! (Math is HARD for me)
Bobber would be proud!
Another good math comparison is $/gal between bottled water and gasoline. One gallon is 127 ounces. Even being conservative and saying a 20 ounce bottle of water is $1.00, that still makes bottled water $6.00/gallon... :thud:
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 19:07:38
If everyone knows, then when "the terrorists"
blow it up, we can have martial law and bomb bomb Iran... :foil:
BobR on 07/09/2008 19:07:38
Quote by Raine:
OK, maybe someone more knowledgeable can help me. Does the entire world NEED to know where the strategic Reserves are kept?
Has this always been common knowledge?
If everyone knows, then when "the terrorists"
blow it up, we can have martial law and bomb bomb Iran... :foil:
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2008 19:07:44
Personally I think it's a good thing. It's nice to have some added excitement in the AL East for a change!
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 19:07:44
Quote by TriSec:
Say now, we've had to deal with "not being in first place" for 86 years. Turnabout is fair play in that regard.
But it is interesting...they did mention on the teevee mosheen over the weekend that this was the first July 4th weekend since 1999 that neither the Sox or the Yanks were in first place at this time...
Personally I think it's a good thing. It's nice to have some added excitement in the AL East for a change!
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:18:53
starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:18:53
Mala, our conversation earlier inspired. . . I am rockin' Xtina Aguilera on the 'pod!
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 19:21:49
Raine on 07/09/2008 19:21:49
Where is Dr. Frist NOW?
So basically, the boy is being killed because he is too much of a burden on the state. This is disgusting.
Foster child denied shot at new liver
A Central Florida foster child needs a life-saving liver, but doctors have taken him off a transplant list because they fear he cannot recover from surgery without a stable home.
Posted on Tue, Jul. 08, 2008
A disabled foster child whose liver is failing has been removed from a Central Florida hospital's organ-transplant waiting list because hospital administrators fear the state's shaky child-welfare system cannot ensure he has a permanent home in which to recover.
Shands Hospital in Gainesville removed the boy, 15, from a waiting list for organ recipients after administrators determined the boy's unstable living conditions make him a poor candidate for a transplant, said Nick Cox, the Department of Children & Families regional administrator in the Tampa Bay area, where the boy lives.
The state's next move: appeal to Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital, which DCF officials hope will put the teen on its transplant wait list.
Shands administrators told DCF chiefs they had serious concerns that the boy might not be in a safe, permanent home for the two years necessary to ensure his body does not reject the new liver, Cox said. The hospital, he said, ``had a big concern about post-placement permanency.''
So basically, the boy is being killed because he is too much of a burden on the state. This is disgusting.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 19:35:51
And not a peep from those so called "compassionate right-to-lifers" who screamed about Terry Schiavo. Further proof that so-called "right-to-lifers" are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the face of the Earth.
livingonli on 07/09/2008 19:35:51
Quote by Raine:
Where is Dr. Frist NOW?Foster child denied shot at new liver
A Central Florida foster child needs a life-saving liver, but doctors have taken him off a transplant list because they fear he cannot recover from surgery without a stable home.
Posted on Tue, Jul. 08, 2008
A disabled foster child whose liver is failing has been removed from a Central Florida hospital's organ-transplant waiting list because hospital administrators fear the state's shaky child-welfare system cannot ensure he has a permanent home in which to recover.
Shands Hospital in Gainesville removed the boy, 15, from a waiting list for organ recipients after administrators determined the boy's unstable living conditions make him a poor candidate for a transplant, said Nick Cox, the Department of Children & Families regional administrator in the Tampa Bay area, where the boy lives.
The state's next move: appeal to Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital, which DCF officials hope will put the teen on its transplant wait list.
Shands administrators told DCF chiefs they had serious concerns that the boy might not be in a safe, permanent home for the two years necessary to ensure his body does not reject the new liver, Cox said. The hospital, he said, ``had a big concern about post-placement permanency.''
So basically, the boy is being killed because he is too much of a burden on the state. This is disgusting.
And not a peep from those so called "compassionate right-to-lifers" who screamed about Terry Schiavo. Further proof that so-called "right-to-lifers" are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the face of the Earth.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2008 19:38:54
Scoopster on 07/09/2008 19:38:54
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:44:01
starling310 on 07/09/2008 19:44:01
Raine, thanks for posting that article but, there is a more important little kid in the news.
:star:'s Inbox ----> CNN BREAKING NEWS
:: double click ::
:thud:
:star:'s Inbox ----> CNN BREAKING NEWS
:: double click ::
-- New DNA evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match that of anyone in her family, a prosecutor says.
:thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 19:55:40
happy to help inspire :)
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 19:55:40
Quote by starling310:
Mala, our conversation earlier inspired. . . I am rockin' Xtina Aguilera on the 'pod!
happy to help inspire :)
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 20:06:50
livingonli on 07/09/2008 20:06:50
Time to go to work. Since we don't have a game tonight, I should be able to pop in for a little bit. I've got more responsibilities but not more money. Welcome to the Bush economy.
But tomorrow and Friday are my weekend.
But tomorrow and Friday are my weekend.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 20:10:51
TriSec on 07/09/2008 20:10:51
Here's something interesting...
Notice who's name is conspicuously absent from these decidedly non-scientific polls...
Notice who's name is conspicuously absent from these decidedly non-scientific polls...
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 20:12:45
starling310 on 07/09/2008 20:12:45
Someone at work didn't bring in their umbrella and do you know what? My boss lent the girl her spare. Can you believe that?!?! She's got some nerve. I mean, it isn't my boss's fault that people don't bring in their umbrellas.
I got MY umbrella and I have an extra, but that's only if I don't have my other one. Tough Noogies for you if you don't even have 1 umbrella...
disclaimer: the following statement has been meant to underscore the selfishness of some conservatives out there.
Can you believe that?!?! She's got some nerve. I mean, it isn't my boss's fault that people don't bring in their umbrellas. I got MY umbrella and I have an extra, but that's only if I don't have my other one. Tough Noogies for you if you don't even have 1 umbrella...
disclaimer: the following statement has been
meant to underscore the selfishness of some conservatives out there.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 20:29:24
TriSec on 07/09/2008 20:29:24
*snort*
Well, it's a laugher at Fenway now. And of all things, I believe some thanks are in order to the New York Sith for beating the Rays yesterday. (tied in the 10th as we speak).
Their lead is back down to 3 games.
Well, it's a laugher at Fenway now. And of all things, I believe some thanks are in order to the New York Sith for beating the Rays yesterday. (tied in the 10th as we speak).
Their lead is back down to 3 games.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 20:41:30
starling310 on 07/09/2008 20:41:30
And thanks again to the Spankees. . . Tampa Bay will be down to a 2 game lead after today.
Hey, Tri, maybe by the weekend we will back in 1st.
Hey, Tri, maybe by the weekend we will back in 1st.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 20:51:43
No Obama versus Miller comparisons?
capt on 07/09/2008 20:51:43
Quote by TriSec:
Here's something interesting...
Notice who's name is conspicuously absent from these decidedly non-scientific polls...
No Obama versus Miller comparisons?
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 23:20:57
capt on 07/09/2008 23:20:57
Did I kill the blog?
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 23:25:17
Nah! Maybe it's quiet cuz it's dinner time for some? Or recharging the batteries before Countdown starts...
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 23:25:17
Quote by capt:
Did I kill the blog?
Nah! Maybe it's quiet cuz it's dinner time for some? Or recharging the batteries before Countdown starts...
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 23:34:35
capt on 07/09/2008 23:34:35
So this young country couple decide to elope. The run off to a neighboring town and get married at the court house. Then go to a hotel and ask about a room. They mention to the clerk their recent nuptials and the clerks says:
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 23:35:52
capt on 07/09/2008 23:35:52
*trying blog chest compressions*
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 23:48:00
livingonli on 07/09/2008 23:48:00
The blog is just stunned.
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 23:50:02
capt on 07/09/2008 23:50:02
(blog sez)
Don't tase me bro!
Don't tase me bro!
Comment by clintster on 07/10/2008 00:00:48
I just told that to Mrs. C, and she stared at me for a sec and drawled out a perfect Dr. Evil/Lorne Michaels "Riiiiiiight." (can we get that as an audiocon?)
clintster on 07/10/2008 00:00:48
Quote by capt:
So this young country couple decide to elope. The run off to a neighboring town and get married at the court house. Then go to a hotel and ask about a room. They mention to the clerk their recent nuptials and the clerks says:
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
I just told that to Mrs. C, and she stared at me for a sec and drawled out a perfect Dr. Evil/Lorne Michaels "Riiiiiiight." (can we get that as an audiocon?)
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:18:09
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:18:09
Howdy all! It is hotter than the Devil's butt crack here; sweaty, hot humid. Bleh!
Raine darling, if it makes you happy, I went to Publix for groceries today. I went back to the organic milk, yeah it is more expensive the non-organic, but since it is all double pasteurized, it last way longer. The last half gallon of milk went sour in about a week. I hate throwing money down the drain.
Dinner has been eaten, I have a yummy Sam Adams summer ale at the ready. Countdown is on. I
Dr. Maddow! :scribbles in notebook, "Mr. Dr Maddow, Mr. Maddow No Mr (Name redacted for privacy)-Maddow:
Ya know I don't think we should be suing telecomms, we should be suing Bush and Cheney. Whadda think? A massive class action suit against them. I'd love to have one of Darth's really expensive shotguns. Or even better a vacation home in Texas. Yeah turn that weasel out and force him it a junior one bedroom in Wacko. I could turn the spread into a group home for recovering coke junkies or something.
Raine darling, if it makes you happy, I went to Publix for groceries today. I went back to the organic milk, yeah it is more expensive the non-organic, but since it is all double pasteurized, it last way longer. The last half gallon of milk went sour in about a week. I hate throwing money down the drain.
Dinner has been eaten, I have a yummy Sam Adams summer ale at the ready. Countdown is on. I
Dr. Maddow! :scribbles in notebook, "Mr. Dr Maddow, Mr. Maddow No Mr (Name redacted for privacy)-Maddow:Ya know I don't think we should be suing telecomms, we should be suing Bush and Cheney. Whadda think? A massive class action suit against them. I'd love to have one of Darth's really expensive shotguns. Or even better a vacation home in Texas. Yeah turn that weasel out and force him it a junior one bedroom in Wacko. I could turn the spread into a group home for recovering coke junkies or something.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:41:52
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:41:52
Ya know, Paul Rieckoff has no neck, just head then neck. One of the many reasons he is kinda scary looking what with the shaved head and the giant shoulders and the flaven!
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 00:47:37
I'll take scary looking over scary acting any day...
Especially when they're on our side.
btw - he reads our blog on occasion...
BobR on 07/10/2008 00:47:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Ya know, Paul Rieckoff has no neck, just head then neck. One of the many reasons he is kinda scary looking what with the shaved head and the giant shoulders and the flaven!
I'll take scary looking over scary acting any day...
Especially when they're on our side.
btw - he reads our blog on occasion...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:48:45
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 00:48:45
Why I will never, ever even think about using Nutri-systems, besides all the gall bladder problems that have been linked to the food. Larry The Cable Guy. I kid you not. :puke:
Comment by Random on 07/10/2008 00:53:22
Quick Question: What the hell did Jesse Jackson say? and why?
Random confused.
Random on 07/10/2008 00:53:22
Quick Question: What the hell did Jesse Jackson say? and why?
Random confused.
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 00:58:17
BobR on 07/10/2008 00:58:17
I apologize in advance for the nightmares... From BartCop:
Comment by Random on 07/10/2008 01:02:32
That looks like a man in drag....
Glad i won't be sleeping tonight...the nightmares might kill me.
Random on 07/10/2008 01:02:32
Quote by BobR:
I apologize in advance for the nightmares... From BartCop:
That looks like a man in drag....
Glad i won't be sleeping tonight...the nightmares might kill me.
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 01:05:06
BobR on 07/10/2008 01:05:06
It gets worse. Why oh why do I visit BartCop??
maybe so I can share the misery?
maybe so I can share the misery?
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 01:07:00
OH yes! That would be loverly!
We have returned from a protest of 4$ a gallon gas and John McCain... (and dinner)
Raine on 07/10/2008 01:07:00
Quote by clintster:Quote by capt:
So this young country couple decide to elope. The run off to a neighboring town and get married at the court house. Then go to a hotel and ask about a room. They mention to the clerk their recent nuptials and the clerks says:
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
I just told that to Mrs. C, and she stared at me for a sec and drawled out a perfect Dr. Evil/Lorne Michaels "Riiiiiiight." (can we get that as an audiocon?)
We have returned from a protest of 4$ a gallon gas and John McCain... (and dinner)
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 01:08:38
Raine on 07/10/2008 01:08:38
:puke:
BobR... No Soup for you!
BobR... No Soup for you!
Comment by Random on 07/10/2008 01:13:14
Random on 07/10/2008 01:13:14
...So...no one knows what's going on with Jesse Jackson?
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 01:15:50
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
BobR on 07/10/2008 01:15:50
Quote by Random:
...So...no one knows what's going on with Jesse Jackson?
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:16:39
It were a move on thing, right? Bastids! I'm on the local committee they didn't even email the place and time. :modbat:
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:16:39
Quote by Raine:OH yes! That would be loverly!Quote by clintster:Quote by capt:
So this young country couple decide to elope. The run off to a neighboring town and get married at the court house. Then go to a hotel and ask about a room. They mention to the clerk their recent nuptials and the clerks says:
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
I just told that to Mrs. C, and she stared at me for a sec and drawled out a perfect Dr. Evil/Lorne Michaels "Riiiiiiight." (can we get that as an audiocon?)
We have returned from a protest of 4$ a gallon gas and John McCain... (and dinner)
It were a move on thing, right? Bastids! I'm on the local committee they didn't even email the place and time. :modbat:
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 01:17:27
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
BobR on 07/10/2008 01:17:27
Quote by BobR:
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 01:18:08
I am lad you chose Publix over that place that shall not be mentioned...
I do not buy organic milk, and I am sorry that happened. What the heck was the date? I would still pick Publix over that place any day.... baby steps my friend, baby steps.
Raine on 07/10/2008 01:18:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Howdy all! It is hotter than the Devil's butt crack here; sweaty, hot humid. Bleh!
Raine darling, if it makes you happy, I went to Publix for groceries today. I went back to the organic milk, yeah it is more expensive the non-organic, but since it is all double pasteurized, it last way longer. The last half gallon of milk went sour in about a week. I hate throwing money down the drain.
I am lad you chose Publix over that place that shall not be mentioned...
I do not buy organic milk, and I am sorry that happened. What the heck was the date? I would still pick Publix over that place any day.... baby steps my friend, baby steps.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 01:18:46
Oh! This made me, and Aunt Azalea laugh!! :lol:
velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 01:18:46
Quote by capt:
So this young country couple decide to elope. The run off to a neighboring town and get married at the court house. Then go to a hotel and ask about a room. They mention to the clerk their recent nuptials and the clerks says:
"So you'll want the bridal?"
The couple look quizzically at each other for a moment then the husband says:
"No, that's okay I'll just hold her by the ears until she gets used to it"
Oh! This made me, and Aunt Azalea laugh!!
:lol:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:20:03
The Rev. said, "... I'm gonna cut his nuts off..."
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:20:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
...So...no one knows what's going on with Jesse Jackson?
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
The Rev. said, "... I'm gonna cut his nuts off..."
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:24:43
the said milk was over a week old. Like I said yesterday, I went more than a year and half without shopping at that place who's name we won't mention. "I try to get out and they pull me back in!"
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:24:43
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Howdy all! It is hotter than the Devil's butt crack here; sweaty, hot humid. Bleh!
Raine darling, if it makes you happy, I went to Publix for groceries today. I went back to the organic milk, yeah it is more expensive the non-organic, but since it is all double pasteurized, it last way longer. The last half gallon of milk went sour in about a week. I hate throwing money down the drain.
I am lad you chose Publix over that place that shall not be mentioned...
I do not buy organic milk, and I am sorry that happened. What the heck was the date? I would still pick Publix over that place any day.... baby steps my friend, baby steps.
the said milk was over a week old. Like I said yesterday, I went more than a year and half without shopping at that place who's name we won't mention. "I try to get out and they pull me back in!"
Comment by Random on 07/10/2008 01:28:07
Well...Either he's genuinally pissed about that, or pissed that he's no longer relevant.
Random on 07/10/2008 01:28:07
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
Well...Either he's genuinally pissed about that, or pissed that he's no longer relevant.
Comment by TriSec on 07/10/2008 01:33:45
TriSec on 07/10/2008 01:33:45
Evening, folks!
Say Mondo...was it Albertson's?
My late grandma wouldn't set foot in that place...she called it "dirty". Read into that what you wish.
Say Mondo...was it Albertson's?
My late grandma wouldn't set foot in that place...she called it "dirty". Read into that what you wish.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:34:48
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:34:48
I am watching Los Busters de los Myths. The lovely Kari Byron is looking very fetching this evening. :sigh: :wub:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:39:31
Nooooo. Albertson's is long gone from these parts. Only good thing about them was the Hawaii grown and canned pineapple. It was a place far, far worse.
Watching the Busters Tri? Lead balloon.
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 01:39:31
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks!
Say Mondo...was it Albertson's?
My late grandma wouldn't set foot in that place...she called it "dirty". Read into that what you wish.
Nooooo. Albertson's is long gone from these parts. Only good thing about them was the Hawaii grown and canned pineapple. It was a place far, far worse.
Watching the Busters Tri? Lead balloon.
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 01:40:43
Raine on 07/10/2008 01:40:43
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 01:47:25
Interesting that you say tyhat Random.
I love Jesse for all that he did... I loved the barriers that he broke... but as radical as he was, we no longer need this. His work is done, and it is time for people to pick up the torch in his place.
This is not the 60's anymore... the same way I felt about geraldine ferroaro... She did great work, but it is time for these people to understand that they succeeded in what they set out to do--- it was the work that they did that made Hillary and Barack legitimate candidates for the President.
Saying things like this does not help.
Being a radical activist is a good thing, but it is important to know when you succeeded ... Jesse doesn't seem to understand that, and in making comments like this, he hurts his credibility.
Raine on 07/10/2008 01:47:25
Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
Well...Either he's genuinally pissed about that, or pissed that he's no longer relevant.
I love Jesse for all that he did... I loved the barriers that he broke... but as radical as he was, we no longer need this. His work is done, and it is time for people to pick up the torch in his place.
This is not the 60's anymore... the same way I felt about geraldine ferroaro... She did great work, but it is time for these people to understand that they succeeded in what they set out to do--- it was the work that they did that made Hillary and Barack legitimate candidates for the President.
Saying things like this does not help.
Being a radical activist is a good thing, but it is important to know when you succeeded ... Jesse doesn't seem to understand that, and in making comments like this, he hurts his credibility.
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 01:48:12
capt on 07/10/2008 01:48:12
Oh Jesse, say it ain't so?
Jackson accused Obama of "acting like he's white,"
Does Jesse know Barack is only half black so he is allowed to act white too?
Jackson accused Obama of "acting like he's white,"
Does Jesse know Barack is only half black so he is allowed to act white too?
Comment by TriSec on 07/10/2008 01:54:17
TriSec on 07/10/2008 01:54:17
I found a new news crack device
The mythbusters? Huh?
:wacko:
Ah yes, lead balloon. That was a fun episode.
The mythbusters? Huh?
:wacko:
Ah yes, lead balloon. That was a fun episode.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 01:54:19
velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 01:54:19
Oh Jesse! 
WTF dude............WTF?
(Obviously, I just returned home).
WTF dude............WTF?
(Obviously, I just returned home).
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 02:02:07
capt on 07/10/2008 02:02:07
I think Random nailed it:
pissed that he's no longer relevant.
If he was relevant before the gaffe, he is less so now.
pissed that he's no longer relevant.
If he was relevant before the gaffe, he is less so now.
Comment by Random on 07/10/2008 02:03:15
I always thought Jesse was an asshole...but i think a lot of people are. I honestly think he is annoyed he's being pushed aside as "the" black leader of the country, Obama (Being presumptive Democratic Nominee) has pretty much taken that role.
Random on 07/10/2008 02:03:15
Quote by Raine:Interesting that you say tyhat Random.Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
Well...Either he's genuinally pissed about that, or pissed that he's no longer relevant.
I love Jesse for all that he did... I loved the barriers that he broke... but as radical as he was, we no longer need this. His work is done, and it is time for people to pick up the torch in his place.
This is not the 60's anymore... the same way I felt about geraldine ferroaro... She did great work, but it is time for these people to understand that they succeeded in what they set out to do--- it was the work that they did that made Hillary and Barack legitimate candidates for the President.
Saying things like this does not help.
Being a radical activist is a good thing, but it is important to know when you succeeded ... Jesse doesn't seem to understand that, and in making comments like this, he hurts his credibility.
I always thought Jesse was an asshole...but i think a lot of people are. I honestly think he is annoyed he's being pushed aside as "the" black leader of the country, Obama (Being presumptive Democratic Nominee) has pretty much taken that role.
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 02:15:28
capt on 07/10/2008 02:15:28
There will be more of the old guard in their last throes.
This doesn't hurt Barack, it might help him. He is more in tune with Jesse's son than the Rev. - this cements it.
This doesn't hurt Barack, it might help him. He is more in tune with Jesse's son than the Rev. - this cements it.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 02:22:30
velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 02:22:30
Could we just export Jesse along with Nader, to say, China or, I dunno, Pago Pago?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 02:28:06
Mrs Mondo's co-worker and long time Rainbow PUSH volunteer said this to Rev Jackson after he gave her a big overly friendly hug: "Jesse! Don't you be kissin' on my I don't want to shot!" Ah a Sam Cooke* reference.
*Sam Cooke killed in hotel lobby by a jealous woman. One of the great tragic moments in pop music.
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 02:28:06
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Interesting that you say tyhat Random.Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
I read that he made an off-the-cuff comment that was supposed to be off-the-record, but of course, there were live mics to pick it up.
I have not yet found what that comment actually was...
ok - apparently he said: "See, Barack been...um...talking down to black people on this faith-based...I wanna cut his nuts off."
Well...Either he's genuinally pissed about that, or pissed that he's no longer relevant.
I love Jesse for all that he did... I loved the barriers that he broke... but as radical as he was, we no longer need this. His work is done, and it is time for people to pick up the torch in his place.
This is not the 60's anymore... the same way I felt about geraldine ferroaro... She did great work, but it is time for these people to understand that they succeeded in what they set out to do--- it was the work that they did that made Hillary and Barack legitimate candidates for the President.
Saying things like this does not help.
Being a radical activist is a good thing, but it is important to know when you succeeded ... Jesse doesn't seem to understand that, and in making comments like this, he hurts his credibility.
I always thought Jesse was an asshole...but i think a lot of people are. I honestly think he is annoyed he's being pushed aside as "the" black leader of the country, Obama (Being presumptive Democratic Nominee) has pretty much taken that role.
Mrs Mondo's co-worker and long time Rainbow PUSH volunteer said this to Rev Jackson after he gave her a big overly friendly hug: "Jesse! Don't you be kissin' on my I don't want to shot!" Ah a Sam Cooke* reference.
*Sam Cooke killed in hotel lobby by a jealous woman. One of the great tragic moments in pop music.
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 02:36:40
capt on 07/10/2008 02:36:40
Could be an MLK reference?
HERE
Reverend Jesse Jackson was on the balcony with Dr King when the single shot rang out. ...
HERE
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 02:37:16
velveeta jones on 07/10/2008 02:37:16
And on FOX TV of all places!!
(Sorry, I seem scattered. I'm fighting neo-cons on a mb while blogging. Serious multi-tasking.......... too much coffee today).
(Sorry, I seem scattered. I'm fighting neo-cons on a mb while blogging. Serious multi-tasking.......... too much coffee today).
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 02:57:14
Yeah could be but, I like the Sam Cooke one better. The MLK thing is so obvious. Plus Jesse likes the ladies.
Mondobubba on 07/10/2008 02:57:14
Quote by capt:
Could be an MLK reference?Reverend Jesse Jackson was on the balcony with Dr King when the single shot rang out. ...
HERE
Yeah could be but, I like the Sam Cooke one better. The MLK thing is so obvious. Plus Jesse likes the ladies.
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2008 03:50:36
which one? You need any assistance?
BobR on 07/10/2008 03:50:36
Quote by velveeta jones:
And on FOX TV of all places!!
(Sorry, I seem scattered. I'm fighting neo-cons on a mb while blogging. Serious multi-tasking.......... too much coffee today).
which one? You need any assistance?
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2008 04:10:00
Man, you said it perfectly. To a certain extent it is time for the old guard to undertstand that well.. *the times they are a changin'*
They are changing, and they are moving in the direction that the old guard has always wanted them to. This is progress, and Jackson saying this... it was just not good. He is apologetic, I know, but his filter is not working... you just don't say this stuff anymore. (not that castration was EVER a good thing to talk about) I understand his frustration, but I think he missed a big point... Barack, in NOT making race a centerpeice of his campaign has mad him a better person in running for president.
Jeepers... this is for the Country... our nation...
At this point... running on Race is just trivial... The same way, running on Gender would be. This election is not about either...
and beucase of the good work of people like Jesse Jackson, it doesn't have to be. So, him, being pissed at Barack for the reasons he aknowledges... it is self defeating in all that he did in his work. You know, I still have my Button for his presidential Run in '88. HE was great.
Raine on 07/10/2008 04:10:00
Quote by capt:
There will be more of the old guard in their last throes.
This doesn't hurt Barack, it might help him. He is more in tune with Jesse's son than the Rev. - this cements it.
They are changing, and they are moving in the direction that the old guard has always wanted them to. This is progress, and Jackson saying this... it was just not good. He is apologetic, I know, but his filter is not working... you just don't say this stuff anymore. (not that castration was EVER a good thing to talk about) I understand his frustration, but I think he missed a big point... Barack, in NOT making race a centerpeice of his campaign has mad him a better person in running for president.
Jeepers... this is for the Country... our nation...
At this point... running on Race is just trivial... The same way, running on Gender would be. This election is not about either...
and beucase of the good work of people like Jesse Jackson, it doesn't have to be. So, him, being pissed at Barack for the reasons he aknowledges... it is self defeating in all that he did in his work. You know, I still have my Button for his presidential Run in '88. HE was great.
Comment by livingonli on 07/10/2008 04:11:47
livingonli on 07/10/2008 04:11:47
Hey Bob and Raine, How was your evening?
Comment by livingonli on 07/10/2008 04:25:15
livingonli on 07/10/2008 04:25:15
It looks like I finally have time to blog and I am all alone.
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 12:21:44
"Was" being the operative word.
Only a little short of a 4F SPARTA!
(A few days running now)
capt on 07/10/2008 12:21:44
Quote by Raine:Man, you said it perfectly. To a certain extent it is time for the old guard to undertstand that well.. *the times they are a changin'*Quote by capt:
There will be more of the old guard in their last throes.
This doesn't hurt Barack, it might help him. He is more in tune with Jesse's son than the Rev. - this cements it.
They are changing, and they are moving in the direction that the old guard has always wanted them to. This is progress, and Jackson saying this... it was just not good. He is apologetic, I know, but his filter is not working... you just don't say this stuff anymore. (not that castration was EVER a good thing to talk about) I understand his frustration, but I think he missed a big point... Barack, in NOT making race a centerpeice of his campaign has mad him a better person in running for president.
Jeepers... this is for the Country... our nation...
At this point... running on Race is just trivial... The same way, running on Gender would be. This election is not about either...
and beucase of the good work of people like Jesse Jackson, it doesn't have to be. So, him, being pissed at Barack for the reasons he aknowledges... it is self defeating in all that he did in his work. You know, I still have my Button for his presidential Run in '88. HE was great.
"Was" being the operative word.
Only a little short of a 4F SPARTA!
(A few days running now)
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 12:26:49
capt on 07/10/2008 12:26:49
UPDATE!
The last thread did go 11 over SPARTA WOO HOO! 
The last thread did go 11 over SPARTA WOO HOO!
Comment by capt on 07/10/2008 12:52:04
capt on 07/10/2008 12:52:04
tap tap tap - is this microphone on?