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Bre'r Obama
Author: BobR Date: 10/15/2008 12:23:55

"I've got you this time, Brer Rabbit," said Brer Fox, jumping up and shaking off the dust. "You've sassed me for the very last time. Now I wonder what I should do with you?"

Brer Rabbit's eyes got very large. "Oh please Brer Fox, whatever you do, please don't throw me into the briar patch."

"Maybe I should roast you over a fire and eat you," mused Brer Fox. "No, that's too much trouble. Maybe I'll hang you instead."

"Roast me! Hang me! Do whatever you please," said Brer Rabbit. "Only please, Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch." - From "The Wonderful Tar Baby Story" as told by Joel Chandler Harris [paraphrased]

The old story about Bre'r Rabbit and Bre'r Fox is a study in reverse psychology. It's about being cool enough under pressure to use your brains to get your opponent to do what you want them to, all the while making them think it's their choice and something you don't want. I was reminded of this story last night when I heard McCain say that Obama had pretty much forced his hand and assured that Bill Ayers would be brought up in tonight's debate.

As we all know, McCain has been attempting to use Ayers to smear Obama. He's brought up Ayers in stump speeches (as has Palin), and he's used him in ads. What he has not done is mention him during debates. After the last two, Obama called him out on this little fact, saying "Well, I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days that he wasn't willing to say it to my face".

On the surface, it looks like Obama is calling McCain a "chicken". It looks like he's trying to get McCain to stop using Ayers in ads and stump speaches. I don't think so. I think he really wants McCain to bring up Ayers at the debates.

Why?

Because he's got something already prepared to throw back in his face. He's got something he would LOVE to bring up, but really can't without looking like he's unjustly attacking McCain. So - he needs McCain to throw the first punch.

I'm not the only one who's been thinking along these lines. According to Patrick Healy at the NY Times:

Senator Barack Obama is prepared to hit back, including with Keating Five scandal if necessary, if Senator John McCain uses tonight’s presidential debate to attack him over his associations with controversial figures like former William C. Ayers, the former Weather Underground leader, Mr. Obama’s chief strategist said this afternoon.

Of course this was said before the last debate, before Obama called out McCain. However, it reinforces the idea that Obama is prepared to counter an Ayers attack. What that counter-attack might be is intriguing to speculate.

Probably the most damning revelation is that McCain's transition team leader was part of a lobbying team for Saddam Hussein:

William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.

The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.

During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.

Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.

Obama may or may not have known about this at the last debate, or when he called out McCain on his Ayers hypocrisy, but I'm sure he knows about it now. Regardless, Obama is prepared. We'll see what happens tonight.

So go ahead McCain - throw the first punch. Throw Bre'r Obama into that briar patch. You know you want to... don't be a chicken...

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Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 12:37:37

Morning :hug:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 12:55:03

Obama drowning out McCain in TV ads

In the first three weeks of September, Barack Obama ran 1,342 television commercials in the Washington media market that reaches heavily populated and contested Northern Virginia.

According to The Nielsen Company, in the same period and market, John McCain aired just eight commercials on broadcast stations.

nice to see someone fight for the VA vote for once.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 13:05:35

Morning, comrades!

Late to the office today because I was busy being a....

Community Organizer!

The tenant's association is running a petition drive to gather support for a proposal to reduce the speed limit in our neighborhood to 20 mph. I was covering the school bus stops this morning.

Comment by

Scoopster on 10/15/2008 13:11:39

Morning all.. :coffee:

:blink:

amagad.. there's soured half & half in my coffee!

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:14:47

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all.. :coffee:

:blink:

amagad.. there's soured half & half in my coffee!

the whole reason why I like non-dairy creamer

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 13:16:33

Quote by wickedpam:

the whole reason why I like non-dairy creamer

I like my coffee like I like my voters: black and bitter... :rofl:

Comment by

Scoopster on 10/15/2008 13:18:04

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all.. :coffee:

:blink:

amagad.. there's soured half & half in my coffee!

the whole reason why I like non-dairy creamer

Oh I like that stuff too.. the only thing is I don't want McCain to label me a terrorist because I have an explosive substance in the office :rofl:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:18:27

Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:

the whole reason why I like non-dairy creamer

I like my coffee like I like my voters: black and bitter... :rofl:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:19:03

must have been a good special comment

Comment by

Scoopster on 10/15/2008 13:22:05

South Philly Obama office target of false mail powder threat..

Turns out it was just some sugar. Still, whoever did this had better fuckin' hide 'cause they committed a federal crime.

Comment by

m-hadley on 10/15/2008 13:25:48

Mornin' Kids :coffee:

:hug: & :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:29:30

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 13:36:08

Morning all. As soon as I finish the raisin bran, I am off to do the Lord's work at the Dem. HQ. As of 9:35 David Frum, the Douche Nozzle has not called me back.

Comment by

starling310 on 10/15/2008 13:39:11

Good morning everybody.

Busy day at the salt mine. . . .

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 13:41:20

Quote by starling310:

Good morning everybody.

Busy day at the salt mine. . . .

welcome back!

Comment by

starling310 on 10/15/2008 13:42:00

Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Good morning everybody.

Busy day at the salt mine. . . .

welcome back!

Thanks Bobber. I'm just a passin' through, saying hello to all my buddies.

Miss you guys!

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:43:49

we miss you too

:hug:

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 13:44:06

Yet another reason to avoid MallWart...

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 13:53:41

Good morning everyone.

I missed your passing through. :waves northeasterly:

The interesting thing will be getting to work today. Since I head east to work, I would be passing Hofstra a bit to the south but I don't know how much the traffic will be screwed around with by secret service.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 13:57:27

Good Morning!

Nice analogy this morning Bobber!

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 13:58:40

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.

Hi I missed your passing through. :waves northeasterly:

The interesting thing will be getting to work today. Since I head east to work, I would be passing Hofstra a bit to the south but I don't know how much the traffic will be screwed around with by secret service.

I know someone at Hostra right now - she said it was crazy with the blocked roads and secret service

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:00:04

:kickcan:

:star:?

Oh well...

anyway.

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 14:01:05

You think football is tough in Green Bay? How about Barrow Alaska?

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:03:22

Quote by wickedpam:

must have been a good special comment

HEre you go, in case you missed it. IT was shorter than usual, but very good.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 14:03:35

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.

Hi I missed your passing through. :waves northeasterly:

The interesting thing will be getting to work today. Since I head east to work, I would be passing Hofstra a bit to the south but I don't know how much the traffic will be screwed around with by secret service.

I know someone at Hostra right now - she said it was crazy with the blocked roads and secret service

Newsday had an article last week on how it was almost impossible for anyone to get tickets to the debate even for students and alumni of Hofstra such as myself.

Comment by

m-hadley on 10/15/2008 14:06:29

Quote by starling310:

Good morning everybody.

Busy day at the salt mine. . . .

Good to see you back, Roomie,

We have missed you and your witty repartee. :D

I know the feeling - I am swamped at work today too, so this my be my only comment for awhile :(

Cheers,

mfaye

& :dance:

:gobama:

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:07:29

Quote by BobR:

Yet another reason to avoid MallWart...

EeeeEEp.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 14:07:55

Hi mfaye. Don't let the salt mine get you down.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 14:12:55

Jim does a pretty good Daffy Duck.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:24:15

$24 Million ok'd for pet food lawsuit.

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 14:26:19

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

must have been a good special comment
HEre you go, in case you missed it. IT was shorter than usual, but very good.

Wow! That was a good one.

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 14:29:48

Random can't keep promises...

Random Nuts

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:38:50

:clap: Nice Random...

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 14:43:21

Quote by Raine:

:clap: Nice Random...

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 14:49:03

once again Cheney has a heart? :scratchhead:

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 14:50:59

Quote by Random:

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

where'd you ever get THAT ridiculous idea? :scratchhead:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 14:51:12

aaawwwwww.....:cry:

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:51:17

They have to Reboot him.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:52:58

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

where'd you ever get THAT ridiculous idea? :scratchhead:

YEah, where did you ?

You are more than welcome to outlet any time you want here!

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 14:53:12

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

where'd you ever get THAT ridiculous idea? :scratchhead:

Random, you can write blogs here. You just have to wait until the customary end of Steph's show so we will pay attention.

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 14:53:56

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

where'd you ever get THAT ridiculous idea? :scratchhead:

I'm pokin' Cause I'm a poker, with a pokin' pokie poke poke. (Do i sound like Mrs Palin yet?)

I'm just havin' a little fun with ya.

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 14:55:58

Quote by Random:

I'm pokin' Cause I'm a poker, with a pokin' pokie poke poke. (Do i sound like Mrs Palin yet?)

I'm just havin' a little fun with ya.

here's how I respond to getting poked ---> :punch:

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 14:55:59

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

I had to have an outlet since no one would let me back and writing a blog here...

where'd you ever get THAT ridiculous idea? :scratchhead:

Random, you can write blogs here. You just have to wait until the customary end of Steph's show so we will pay attention.

Note to Self: Sarcasm doesn't work.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 14:56:02

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 14:57:15

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

I'm pokin' Cause I'm a poker, with a pokin' pokie poke poke. (Do i sound like Mrs Palin yet?)

I'm just havin' a little fun with ya.

here's how I respond to getting poked ---> :punch:

And that's how I'd respond.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 15:02:54

You 2 ...

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 15:03:40

Right now, my local Fox station is reporting on the debate and of course all the McCain supporters drift towards the Fox reporter.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:05:14

Quote by Raine:

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney (born January 30, 1941)

He's in awful shape for 67....McCain is doing better at 72.

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 15:10:44

Quote by Raine:

You 2 ...

whaaaaaaaaaat?

*innocent look*

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:11:58

Idle thought....given Bob's "Daddy Complex" comment a few days back.

Is Sen. McCain running against Obama, or this guy?

Noted in the article, the elder McCains were the first father-son four-star admiral combination in US history. I'm sure McCain the younger is a tad miffed at missing the trifecta.

His Grandpa was actually instrumental in developing US carrier tactics in the early going..

Comment by

m-hadley on 10/15/2008 15:11:59

Quote by livingonli:

Hi mfaye. Don't let the salt mine get you down.

Heya Livin,

Thanks for noticing me

Work is taking a toll on me lately

I just wish I could stay in bed tomorrow, but I guess I'll be back - got bills to pay

You hang in there too

:hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 15:12:26

Quote by Raine:

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

He is 67 evil years old.

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 15:15:16

ummm - Jim? Why does John Waters sound like Al Gore?

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 15:17:53

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

He is 67 evil years old.

And he doesn't have a heart.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 15:25:46

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney (born January 30, 1941)

He's in awful shape for 67....McCain is doing better at 72.

Not saying much at that.

FAYE!

I alwasy notice you!

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 15:26:20

Go Joe! :lol:

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 15:28:47

Quote by wickedpam:

Go Joe! :lol:

That was great!

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:33:16

Yummy!

Go on, I dare ya!

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 15:34:04

Dow is down 350 points right now.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 15:34:16

Oh no Bre'r Fox, don't throw me in the Briar Patch....

In tonight’s debate, Chuck Todd of NBC News says, McCain needs to “figure out how to disqualify Barack Obama.” Time Magazine’s Mark Halperin writes, “McCain will have to produce a major memorable moment.” The NY Daily News says the debate is “do-or-die for McCain’s campaign.” However they put it, people agree, John McCain needs a game-changer.

On the big issues, this debate is one last chance for John McCain to do what he has failed to do throughout this entire campaign: explain to the American people how his economic policies would be any different at all than the failed Bush agenda he has supported every step of the way. It’s his last chance to somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn’t disqualify him from being President.

Just this weekend, John McCain vowed to “whip Obama’s you-know-what” at the debate, and he’s indicated that he’ll use Bill Ayers to attack Barack Obama. Even though Senator McCain has said he doesn’t “give a damn” about Bill Ayers, his campaign has admitted that if he talks about the economy, he’ll lose.

But perhaps the NY Times explained the peril of McCain’s negative strategy best this morning when they wrote: After several weeks in which the McCain campaign unleashed a series of strong political attacks on Mr. Obama, trying to tie him to a former 1960s radical, among other things, the poll found that more voters see Mr. McCain as waging a negative campaign than Mr. Obama. Six in 10 voters surveyed said that Mr. McCain had spent more time attacking Mr. Obama than explaining what he would do as president; by about the same number, voters said Mr. Obama was spending more of his time explaining than attacking. [NYT/CBS Poll, NY Times 10/15/08]

Senator Obama is going to use the debate to discuss his plan for the economy. That’s what he’s been doing this entire campaign. And on Monday, he built on his proposals in a new Rescue Plan for the Middle Class. That’s the kind of steady leadership and real change Americans are looking for – not John McCain’s erratic handling of the crisis, his constant character attacks, and the same Bush policies that have failed us for eight years.

But after two debates in which John McCain didn’t mention the middle class once – and after his campaign declared openly that they want to turn the page on talking about the economy – the real question is not how many attacks McCain can land in the debate, but whether he can finally communicate a vision to turn this economy around.

And while McCain has promised to attack Obama in the debate, every minute that he ignores the economy and the middle class is not just a minute wasted but time spent on attacks that even some of those closest to him have said don’t work.

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 15:39:45

Quote by livingonli:

Dow is down 350 points right now.

at this point I've grown numb too it.

just wish I had some cash to actually invest now.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 15:42:38

I may have a new machine this year. New York may have finally replaced the Lever machines which we still had even in this year's primary.

Comment by

m-hadley on 10/15/2008 15:43:37

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:

How old is Darth Cheney? Him going to the hospital today doesn't seem like it would bode well for grampy.... Sorta reminds people of his age, and health.

Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney (born January 30, 1941)

He's in awful shape for 67....McCain is doing better at 72.
Not saying much at that.

FAYE! I alwasy notice you!

Thanks mucho, Raine,

Guess I'm feeling kinda invisible lately

But I'm still here

Thanks again :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:45:34

Quote by livingonli:

I may have a new machine this year. New York may have finally replaced the Lever machines which we still had even in this year's primary.

I'm sorry, I still miss the old "butterfly" ballots I used to vote on in Saugus and Revere.

When I moved to Waltham we had the mechanical lever machines, it never felt like I was really voting.

Of course, now we have the SAT-style optic readers, fill in with a black marker instead of a #2 pencil...

And no, they're not Diebold, it's another manufacturer. I checked.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:47:31

Oh, and those old lever machines, the city never got rid of them. They set them up for the students to vote on this year.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 15:48:01

Oop, forgot the link!

Kids cast ballots for president, recess...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 15:50:43

Full Diary here. The statement at the end of the video , from the reporter says it all.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 16:03:30

Quote by livingonli:

I may have a new machine this year. New York may have finally replaced the Lever machines which we still had even in this year's primary.

you guys were were set to have the optical Scanner but they were malfunctioning, So I believe that they are sticking with the lever machines this year.

NYS loves it Lever Machines. it is a great read, I think NYS will be keeping them for a long time. It's a long but worth it.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 16:05:31

Quote by TriSec:

Yummy!

Go on, I dare ya!

donde los yikes! That is hot hot hot! :cha cha line Buster Poidexter:

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 16:15:58

You know, I'm beginning to rue the day I gave Obama my cellphone number.

Enough with the text messages already!

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 16:16:32

Absentee Voting offices Closed with no warning. Talk about Voter Supression!!!!

"We had a challenge from someone who said we would be outside the law" if the county allowed absentee voting outside the elections office, said Kevin Bumpus, the chairman of the county elections commission.

According to the elections office, a line of about 200 voters, eager to cast their absentee ballots, snaked outside the elections office.

Arlene Childs, of North Augusta, was among them. She had driven to Kalmia Mall, only to be told that the location had been moved to the elections office in Aiken. She said she was not happy about the extra driving.

County Attorney Jim Holly said he spent the weekend reviewing the state statutes on absentee voting and found no mention of changes in location, leading him to assume that it was left out intentionally. "I'm not going to advise this council or any other board to possibly go outside the law," he said.

Residents who attended the meeting urged the commission to hold off on a decision until more information could be obtained from the state.

"If you've made up your mind, I hope you would reconsider," said state Rep. Bill Clyburn. "My concern is over a month we've been told we would have satellite offices."

The county elections commission had already received permission from the State Elections Commission to provide satellite locations for voters with absentee ballots.

The 11th-hour challenge came late Friday night from Columbia attorney Todd Kincannon, who attended Monday's meeting.

Facing an unfriendly crowd who voiced their feelings about someone from outside the county being behind the morning voting confusion, Mr. Kincannon tried to explain why he brought up the issue.

Comment by

trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 16:17:00

Good afternoon everyone.

Today's walkin' music (not getting out nearly as much as I should, been sittin' around watching das blinkenlights too much)

Eight Miles High - The Byrds

Elenore - The Turtles

Emily's Song - The Moody Blues

Enter the Young - The Association

Eternity Road - The Moody Blues

Everywhere - Fleetwood Mac

Evil Woman - Electric Light Orchestra

Excitable Boy - Warren Zevon

Family of Man - Three Dog Night

Yes, there's a pattern to it

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 16:23:37

About Todd Kincannon...

He's a Repub.

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 16:27:35

Quote by TriSec:

Yummy!

Go on, I dare ya!

One question: why?

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 16:28:00

And a little mroe about the Man who closed those offices:

The Simpsonville attorney, Todd Kincannon, 27, practices in Columbia and is a major player in the S.C. Republican Party, serving as counsel and parliamentarian. Kincannon attended the meeting and stated his case repeatedly that his interpretation of the applicable statutes meant only voting at a specific location.

Kincannon, who has been practicing law for less than a year, has already received awards from the State GOP and has written amicus briefs for them to the U.S. Supreme Court.

This is another very good article. This guy is a littel KKKarl Rove, if you ask me.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 16:35:31

Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Yummy!

Go on, I dare ya!

One question: why?

Because people are idiots, Bobber. They think that heat is more important than say

flavor.

Comment by

trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 16:37:45

Simpsonville? DOH!

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 16:52:43

Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

I may have a new machine this year. New York may have finally replaced the Lever machines which we still had even in this year's primary.
you guys were were set to have the optical Scanner but they were malfunctioning, So I believe that they are sticking with the lever machines this year.

NYS loves it Lever Machines. it is a great read, I think NYS will be keeping them for a long time. It's a long but worth it.

Interesting that the place they have been testing the machines is in Nassau County where Democratic registrations have now surpassed Republican registrations after long standing Republican domination. And Long Island which went Republican in every election except '64 has been trending blue since '92 when Long Island went to Bill Clinton.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 17:01:05

Facebook is having International Talk Like Sarah Palin day on Tuesday.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 17:13:52

Quote by livingonli:

Facebook is having International Talk Like Sarah Palin day on Tuesday.

c'mon Liv it'll be a hoot youbetcha!

Comment by

trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 17:24:07

Quote by livingonli:

Facebook is having International Talk Like Sarah Palin day on Tuesday.

So I guess I shouldn't even bother going there that day. It has enough problems working properly on a normal day.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 17:52:13

They have already closed off the traffic around Hofstra.

Comment by

Will in Chicago on 10/15/2008 17:53:51

Hello, bloggers!

I hope that everyone is doing well today. Excellent entry, BobR!! I think that Obama is ready to hit McCain with his past associations. (So, will McCain spontaneously combust over that -- and did the crowd bring lots of SMORES?)

Sorry that I have been away. My dog Holly has been ill (stomach problems) and I had her on a liquid diet for a bit. She is fine now, and eating solid food. I am a bit wiped out from being a worried parent, so I am taking it easy. (I am still on a holding pattern over subbing here in Phoenix. The bureaucracy here must be triple checking everything.)

The UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to take a look.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 18:05:11

*grunt*

Do we get bingo or drinking this evening?

(Although gentle readers, this is feeling more like rote. I'll be damn glad when this election cycle is over. I think we all need a vacation.)

Comment by

Will in Chicago on 10/15/2008 18:10:34

Quote by TriSec:

*grunt*

Do we get bingo or drinking this evening?

(Although gentle readers, this is feeling more like rote. I'll be damn glad when this election cycle is over. I think we all need a vacation.)

I plan to watch, but as I seldom drink, drinking games would not work well.

I do agree that we need a vacation from an election that will be one for the history books. McCain keeps changing course so often you would think he was in a demolition derby. (Okay, it is probably unfair to compare demolition derbies to the McCain campaign.)

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 18:15:23

might not be quite work suitable with the language

He's George Bush but older and meaner

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 18:43:57

I'm rather alarmed that in this fall season, neither candidate has brought up the issue of pie.

Where, for example, do the candidates stand on the vital crust debate? Which side prefers Dutch Apple or the more traditional two-crust pie? And more importantly, would they prefer Macintosh over Cortland, or another variety altogether?

And I'm sorry; I just can't vote for Obama in this instance. I've never seen him wear a pie lapel pin, I just know he hates pie. What kind of person would run for high office in this day and age without supporting the pie industry?

I mean come on, it's not called "American as Apple Pie" for nothing!!!

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 18:50:11

Why, the Dow is down 461 points!

*snap*

La de freakin' da! I don't care anymore!!

Wooohoooo! (throws clothing about, pirouettes naked in the blog)

WHeeeee! I have to work until I'm dead! Javi can't go to college! We'll never buy a house!

Waaahaaaahaaaahaaaaa!

Absinthe for everyone!

(bolts out front door, runs down street)

I hate America! I'm a Terrorist! Vote for Obama!

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 18:56:54

Quote by TriSec:

I'm rather alarmed that in this fall season, neither candidate has brought up the issue of pie.

Where, for example, do the candidates stand on the vital crust debate? Which side prefers Dutch Apple or the more traditional two-crust pie? And more importantly, would they prefer Macintosh over Cortland, or another variety altogether?

And I'm sorry; I just can't vote for Obama in this instance. I've never seen him wear a pie lapel pin, I just know he hates pie. What kind of person would run for high office in this day and age without supporting the pie industry?

I mean come on, it's not called "American as Apple Pie" for nothing!!!

HEre you go Tri, to ease your worries...

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 19:01:29

Uh oh, Tri snapped. What do we do?

And now it's time to go to the salt mine. At least I don't have to be near Hofstra with the traffic there.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 19:19:59

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 19:39:46

Quote by TriSec:

Why, the Dow is down 461 points!

*snap*

La de freakin' da! I don't care anymore!!

Wooohoooo! (throws clothing about, pirouettes naked in the blog)

WHeeeee! I have to work until I'm dead! Javi can't go to college! We'll never buy a house!

Waaahaaaahaaaahaaaaa!

Absinthe for everyone!

(bolts out front door, runs down street)

I hate America! I'm a Terrorist! Vote for Obama!

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

:yawn: There goes tri being all Famous about it.

(JK

<--------- AFTER you put this towel around yourself...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 19:41:26

As for Drinking games tonite... I think someone else should find one... Whatever game it is, it should NOT include *My Friends* I don't wanna get sued for Alcohol poisoning...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 19:45:24

Just Click on things...

Comment by

BobR on 10/15/2008 19:45:56

Quote by Raine:

As for Drinking games tonite... I think someone else should find one... Whatever game it is, it should NOT include *My Friends* I don't wanna get sued for Alcohol poisoning...

sadly, I will be working... :(

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 19:48:00

Oh, dear...

The flames from the Red Sox' skidding season seem to be spreading. The Citgo sign that looms over Fenway Park caught fire this morning, the plastic partially melting in a small electrical blaze inside the storied sign.

Flames were actually visible from Storrow Drive during the fire, which caused $5,000 in damage, said Steve MacDonald, a spokesperson for the Boston Fire Department.

Firefighters quickly extinguished the blaze, which ignited just before noon. No one was injured. It was not immediately clear how long it would take to fix the sign.

:kickcan:

Comment by

wickedpam on 10/15/2008 19:52:38

Quote by Raine:

Just Click on things...

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 19:52:51

TriSec's drinking game:

Get your Bible out.

Turn to face East towards Mecca.

Have a shot of Manischewitz.

Pray for the damn thing to be over.

Comment by

IzzyBitz on 10/15/2008 20:04:45

Quote by TriSec:

You know, I'm beginning to rue the day I gave Obama my cellphone number.

Enough with the text messages already!

Oh, dear. You didn't see that ploy coming down Fifth Avenue.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:05:44

Unbelievable: McCain Called Hillary Clinton for Economic advice.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 20:07:53

OK, here's one from HuffPo:

Every time John McCain mentions his POW experience, praise his courage and drink a kamikaze. This one is only for the heavy drinkers.

Every time Obama says change everyone has to switch seats and drink the other person's drink of choice.

Every time John McCain tries to associate Barack Obama with an unsavory character, take a sip of your dirty martini.

Every time someone says bailout you have to finish your drink and pour another.

Every time John McCain says "my friends", spit out your drink and shout "I am not your friend" at the television.

Every time "evil", "evil doers", or anything with evil is mentioned, drink a sip of French red wine.

Every time John McCain threatens Iran, drink a savage car bomb or cherry bomb.

Every time Barack Obama ties John McCain to George W. Bush, drink a sloe gin fizz and wish for better days.

Every time John McCain displays how hopelessly out of touch he is, drink an old bastard.

Every time John McCain refers to the USSR or any other non-existent formerly communist country, get ready to ride the red tide.

When Georgia is mentioned, drink a fuzzy navel.

Every time John McCain mentions Sarah Palin, drink a white russian. After all, if Sarah Palin is around there must be a Russian nearby somewhere.

Every time John McCain smiles creepily, drink a roofie-colada.

If anyone mentions a golden parachute, pound some goldschlager.

Every time John McCain makes an appeal to states rights, lean back and take a sip of that sweet southern comfort.

When NATO membership is mentioned, clink glasses with everyone around you and attack anyone who refuses to clink.

If John McCain doesn't show up, lock yourself inside and sip Jack Daniels all night. It is going to be a long six weeks.

Regardless of what either candidate says, at the end of the debate, drink something that must be lit on fire first then hit yourself in the face with a shovel.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 20:11:55

Here's another one...

I'm going to make you do the clicky, but here's a couple:

7. If anytime just hearing the name “Governor Palin” makes you want to drink, DRINK. Drink whatever is nearest to you, as long as it’s not the stove cleaner. And then carefully re-apply your lipstick.

10. If at any point, you find that you are replying to the debate (this includes yelling at the candidates) and are awaiting a rebuttal, slam back a martini. Then congratulate yourself for slamming back a drink that’s not often slammed.

15. Anytime you realize that you don’t care about the debates, you know the issues and you know who you are going to vote for- stop drinking, congratulate yourself and go to bed.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:23:31

:rofl: Yesterday It was Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger" and today Bon Jovi says they don't want Grampy using thier song, "Home"

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:25:27

OK, Tri ... I am gonna revise that one so we don't need ALL those drinks... does that sound good?

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:27:55

Quote by TriSec:

TriSec's drinking game:

Get your Bible out.

Turn to face East towards Mecca.

Have a shot of Manischewitz.

Pray for the damn thing to be over.

:rofl:

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 20:31:01

Back from the flaven! Oh I think we have a new pocket pundit! Ramesh Ponnuru. He opened his mouth to speak and out came the voice of 12 year old.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 20:34:05

Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Yesterday It was Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger" and today Bon Jovi says they don't want Grampy using thier song, "Home"

It just keeps getting worse and worse for poor Johnny Heart, Survivor and Bon Jovi. Who next? :rofl:

4:33PM no call from David Frum, Douche Nozzle. Coward. Liar.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 20:37:34

Maybe the good Senator from Arizona should just give up on music and play the sound of a dentist's drill or something...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:47:13

Quote by TriSec:

Maybe the good Senator from Arizona should just give up on music and play the sound of a dentist's drill or something...

I think I hear that every time Palin opens her yaptrap...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 20:54:22

McCAin Pulling --actually RNC -- Pulling out of Wisconsin and Maine...

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 21:02:23

Now, Random isn't a socialite...I know, everyone is shocked, but it's true.

But at some point, I think having an article about the 8 things you should or shouldn't do at a party is just a little weird...and maybe a bit tacky.

Cause honestly, I don't know what party people go to where bringing stationary or Candles are...well is smart.

Random is sorry, he needed to get that off his chest.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:07:31

Watching HArdball, looking at the signs behind Tweety.. I am feeling very proud of my home state. But... can someone tell me why the MCCAin signs are all 'YELLOW?

But I am proud.. LOTSA signs!!! :D

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:08:59

If I were still in NY, I would be down there, youbetcha!

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:11:49

Quote by Random:

Now, Random isn't a socialite...I know, everyone is shocked, but it's true.

But at some point, I think having an article about the 8 things you should or shouldn't do at a party is just a little weird...and maybe a bit tacky.

Cause honestly, I don't know what party people go to where bringing stationary or Candles are...well is smart.

Random is sorry, he needed to get that off his chest.

HAve you been reading Ms. Manners again?

(I have a librul confession... I love reading Ms. Manners, especially when she gets extra snarky, and trust me, she does... )

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 21:13:28

You know what really sucks about having to work today. There is an Obama rally being held right now in Eisenhower Park which I would have loved to have gone to. There is also going to be a protest by Iraq Veterans Against the War and the Party of Socialism and Liberation going from the Hempstead train station to the Hofstra campus demanding a thorough discussion on the war and economic issues.

We have the whole spectrum here on the Island. :)

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 21:13:35

Quote by Raine:

McCAin Pulling --actually RNC -- Pulling out of Wisconsin and Maine...

In a sign of his vast resources, Obama has purchased millions of dollars in national network time, airing spots during the Major League Baseball playoffs and during Sunday NFL games.

That's a smart move, actually. For our series at least, he covers all of New England, including swing-state NH, and vital Florida. I kinda want the ALCS to make it to 7 games now, if it helps Barack!

(and merges our passions neatly, as the saying around Massachusetts goes, "the only two year-round sports are politics and baseball...")

Comment by

Random on 10/15/2008 21:14:08

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Now, Random isn't a socialite...I know, everyone is shocked, but it's true.

But at some point, I think having an article about the 8 things you should or shouldn't do at a party is just a little weird...and maybe a bit tacky.

Cause honestly, I don't know what party people go to where bringing stationary or Candles are...well is smart.

Random is sorry, he needed to get that off his chest.
HAve you been reading Ms. Manners again?

(I have a librul confession... I love reading Ms. Manners, especially when she gets extra snarky, and trust me, she does... )

Never heard of her.

I'm talking about two women doing a weird column for Yahoo.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 21:14:58

What's this, gentle readers? More Miss Manners afficionados?

(Ask me about my alter-ego sometime..."Mr. Rude".)

Comment by

IzzyBitz on 10/15/2008 21:20:04

Quote by TriSec:

TriSec's drinking game:

Get your Bible out.

Turn to face East towards Mecca.

Have a shot of Manischewitz.

Pray for the damn thing to be over.

You lost me at get your bible out.

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:21:40

Sarah Thinks NH is in the NorthWest (NW of Maine maybe??)

They booed her...

Comment by

trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 21:23:37

Quote by Raine:

Sarah Thinks NH is in the NorthWest (NW of Maine maybe??)

They booed her...

Idiot. Like she gives a crap about anyone in the "Northwest" anyway.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 21:24:00

Quote by TriSec:

What's this, gentle readers? More Miss Manners afficionados?

(Ask me about my alter-ego sometime..."Mr. Rude".)

But can you be ruder than the stereotypical New Yorker or Long Islander for that matter?

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 21:28:13

Well now, NH is mostly North and West of Boston...

Maybe that's what she meant?

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:28:48

Quote by TriSec:

What's this, gentle readers? More Miss Manners afficionados?

(Ask me about my alter-ego sometime..."Mr. Rude".)

She cracks me up. Sometimes I think Rachel reads Ms Manners... she certainly used some of her techniques while gently fileting David Frum the other night.

Comment by

TriSec on 10/15/2008 21:28:51

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by TriSec:

What's this, gentle readers? More Miss Manners afficionados?

(Ask me about my alter-ego sometime..."Mr. Rude".)

But can you be ruder than the stereotypical New Yorker or Long Islander for that matter?

*snort*

We're not called "Massholes" for nothing...

Comment by

Raine on 10/15/2008 21:32:38

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by TriSec:

TriSec's drinking game:

Get your Bible out.

Turn to face East towards Mecca.

Have a shot of Manischewitz.

Pray for the damn thing to be over.

You lost me at get your bible out.

Aww.. give it another shot... twas funny as hell.

you gonna watch tonite Izzy?

I have not gone cold turkey btw, but I have decided to leave the TV on mute with the exception of KO and Dr. Maddow. t's working wonders for me mental health. I might be able to avoid getting a 'scrip for Lexapro.

Comment by

livingonli on 10/15/2008 21:33:36

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by TriSec:

What's this, gentle readers? More Miss Manners afficionados?

(Ask me about my alter-ego sometime..."Mr. Rude".)

But can you be ruder than the stereotypical New Yorker or Long Islander for that matter?

*snort*

We're not called "Massholes" for nothing...

It's nice to know someone wants to compete with us for that honor.

Comment by

IzzyBitz on 10/15/2008 22:06:38

Quote by Raine:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by TriSec:

TriSec's drinking game:

Get your Bible out.

Turn to face East towards Mecca.

Have a shot of Manischewitz.

Pray for the damn thing to be over.

You lost me at get your bible out.
Aww.. give it another shot... twas funny as hell.

you gonna watch tonite Izzy?

I have not gone cold turkey btw, but I have decided to leave the TV on mute with the exception of KO and Dr. Maddow. t's working wonders for me mental health. I might be able to avoid getting a 'scrip for Lexapro.

I listen to Rachel's radio machine show. I record the TV show and listen to the parts that won't make me throw something at the TV. No debate tonight. I just can't handle McCain's BS. Bring on November 4 already. It's getting too ugly. The Palin rallies are too frightening for words. I know those people exist and I don't like being reminded of their sorry existence. A thinning of the herd is in order!