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Frankenstein's Monster
Author: BobR    Date: 08/05/2009 12:45:08

Whoops.

What happens when you appeal to a crazy person's id? What happens when you rev up the emotions of an angry mob? It seems that certain elements in the political world are beginning to realize that they are the Frankensteins that are losing control of the monster they created.

It's hard to categorize them exactly. They are the "birthers" that think Obama is not really a U.S. citizen. They are the "teabaggers" that don't want to pay taxes and consider any government program "socialism". They are the haters that can't stand the thought that the president is a half-black man with "Hussein" as a middle name, and that they're in the minority of people thinking that is a problem. The most disturbed are those that belong in all three camps, but it's safe to assume that most members of one camp belong to another as well.

The Dr. Frankenstein in this case would be FOX News. John Stewart called them out on it Monday night:
Showing a clip from a recent town hall attended by Senator Arlen Specter (D-PA) and Health and Human Services chief Kathleen Sebelius, Stewart highlighted a Fox talking point that was repeated by an off-camera woman.

“You want us to believe that a government that can’t even run a cash for clunkers program is going to run 1/7th of our U.S. economy?” she rattled into the mic to a growing chorus of cheers. “No sir! No.”

“Does every town in America have one of those ladies?” asked Stewart. “Or has that lady been going around to every town?”

In a mocking tone, he added: “This tyranny will not stand! Now, can I have a ride to the bus station? I have a school board meeting to disrupt in Akron.”

“By the way, if you’re wondering why all these town hall disruptions continue to happen, it’s actually a product of a closed-loop, self-sustaining, outrage-generating ecosystem…” began Stewart, cutting quickly to a series of Fox clips.

In the clips, host Steve Doocy is seen knocking proposals to provide healthcare to poor Americans, suggesting that since the “Cash for Clunkers” program was so effective in driving up auto sales, the government could not possibly fund a segment of healthcare.

While FOX may be the mad doctor, who would be the Igor bringing the fresh meat? That is being covered by "Conservatives for Patient Rights" who just so happen to be the same group of folks who organized the Swiftboaters against Kerry. They are the ones shipping "that lady" around to all the Democratic congresscritter's town hall meetings. Even Chuck Norris is jumping into the fray to kick some serious non-birther ass.

Perhaps it is the realization that this is heading to a bad place which prompted Glen Beck (yes - Glen Beck) to ask these folks to keep it peaceful:
In what was perhaps an admission that his core supporters are less than entirely sane, Fox News’ Glenn Beck implored his viewers Monday night not to resort to violence.

Beck told viewers to “let Congress know that you are watching them like a hawk… you let them feel your burning gaze on them. But … your interaction with them needs to be respectful, polite, forceful and peaceful.”

Beck suggested that one act of (presumably right-wing extremist) violence could upend the conservative opposition to President Barack Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress.

“If anyone thinks it would be a good idea to turn violent, think again. It would destroy the republic,” Beck said.

Of course - the REAL reason for all this craziness is to derail healthcare reform. The people against healthcare reform come from two camps: Those that have a financial interest in it not going through (insurance and drug companies), and those that would cut off their nose to spite their face to maintain ideological purity (small government adherents). The latter group would rather suffer with no healthcare than suffer under the "tyranny" of "socialism".

The White House has struck back at the nonsense, releasing a 3 minute video to punch back at the lies being put out by Drudge Report and others. The DNC has put out a video as well (see the Conservatives for Patient's Rights link, above). It's nice to see them being proactive. One can only hope that the nutjobs' continued shrill, disruptive behavior will only serve to further discredit their own message.

The "cash for clunkers" message hasn't resonated well. The "healthcare reform will kill your Grandma" message has about run its course. The next one? Taxpayer dollars will pay for abortions.

Stay tuned...

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Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:06:41
Re-mornin' all!

Comment by TriSec on 08/05/2009 13:10:27
Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 13:10:50
definate re-morning

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 13:16:22
Good Morning!

Comment by BobR on 08/05/2009 13:16:30
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks! Guess who's in the paper again today?







Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:17:58
Okay this one's got me shaking my head..



"Mayor" of Providence tent city arrested for failing to register as a sex offender.



Okay fine.. I get the fact that he's supposed to register. But the guy is HOMELESS LIVING UNDER A BRIDGE - how's he supposed to register if he doesn't have an address?

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 13:18:25
Quote by Scoopster:

Re-mornin' all!


Woohoo!



IT was a special night for the candidates... that is pretty funny.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:18:29
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks! Guess who's in the paper again today?





Rock on Tri!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:18:59
wtf... why won't emoticons show up when I type them manually????

Comment by BobR on 08/05/2009 13:21:39
TECHIE NOTE:



I made a change to the code to keep the emoticons from appearing where they shouldn't, such as in the middle of text when you happen to have two characters next to each other. It does this by requiring a space on both sides of the emoticon text code before it will translate it to the picture.



An unfortunate side-effect of this is that if you manually type the code for an emoticon, and you don't put a space before and after, it will not show up.



Example:



No emoticon: :)

Emoticon:



If you use the click-list (on the left or the popup box), it puts the spaces there for you. If you type them in manually, you'll need to get into the habit of typing the spaces.



EDIT: I fixed those below that weren't showing up...

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 13:26:39
aaaaawwwwwww

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:29:30
Aha! I get it now.. Thanks for the insider info Bobber!

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 13:30:42


Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 13:39:31
BTW, that DNC ad is amazing!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 13:46:36
Actually decided to take a look at Dailykos for the first time in a while this morning, and someone brought up a very disturbing yet logical point about Palin quitting.

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:12:23
Regarding the cash for clunkers program... The Dems NEED to remind people that this is about getting older cars odd the road -- you know the ones with SHITTY emissions. It is about the environment!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:13:52
Quote by Raine:

Regarding the cash for clunkers program... The Dems NEED to remind people that this is about getting older cars odd the road -- you know the ones with SHITTY emissions. It is about the environment!!!






They do - I just wish the program made a compromise on the age and combined mileage

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:17:13
shut up jerry

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:18:58
It's breaking that the Senate has approved the 2B for the Cash for Clunkers!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:19:03
Jeez is the the 2006 law the was passed bi-partisanly

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:19:42
Ok... I REALLY cannot stand this guy.

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:21:37
IT isn't going to cover illegals!!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:22:28
Quote by Raine:

IT isn't going to cover illegals!!!!






so which one of the many HCB out there is he refering too - or is it the OLD 2006 bill?

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:23:04
Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:26:13
ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:26:53
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

IT isn't going to cover illegals!!!!






so which one of the many HCB out there is he refering too - or is it the OLD 2006 bill?


No it isn't from 06. It is a myth that sprouted up out of hr 3200, Refrencing ERISA and other things that are ALREADY law. It is a provision that basically says elready existing law will trump anyhealthcare bill.



They are distorting reality.



The OTHER thing I find anazing -- is the idea that even iof we were to cover immigrants - is that they would get it for free. One thing to keep in mind, health insurance isn't going to be FREE the way they are framing it.







Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:30:49
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

IT isn't going to cover illegals!!!!






so which one of the many HCB out there is he refering too - or is it the OLD 2006 bill?


No it isn't from 06. It is a myth that sprouted up out of hr 3200, Refrencing ERISA and other things that are ALREADY law. It is a provision that basically says elready existing law will trump anyhealthcare bill.



They are distorting reality.



The OTHER thing I find anazing -- is the idea that even iof we were to cover immigrants - is that they would get it for free. One thing to keep in mind, health insurance isn't going to be FREE the way they are framing it.











Thanks for clearing that up! Ya'll have become quiet the experts on healthcare reform :D

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:33:48
Quote by wickedpam:

ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start
Does yours say Examiner Washington DC? Mine always seem to say Atlanta. I Thought it was strange that this site kept popping up too. I wonder who is behind it.



Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:35:36
Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:39:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start
Does yours say Examiner Washington DC? Mine always seem to say Atlanta. I Thought it was strange that this site kept popping up too. I wonder who is behind it.



Copyright © 2009 Clarity Digital Group LLC d/b/a Examiner.com. All Rights reserved.





I just read that the Weekly Standard was sold to Clarity MEDIA group (from Murdoch) I wonder if the 2 are affiliated.

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:41:57
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start
Does yours say Examiner Washington DC? Mine always seem to say Atlanta. I Thought it was strange that this site kept popping up too. I wonder who is behind it.



Copyright © 2009 Clarity Digital Group LLC d/b/a Examiner.com. All Rights reserved.





I just read that the Weekly Standard was sold to Clarity MEDIA group (from Murdoch) I wonder if the 2 are affiliated.
Indeed they are affiliated. This article explains a lot about the Examiner and who owns it.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 14:46:06
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start
Does yours say Examiner Washington DC? Mine always seem to say Atlanta. I Thought it was strange that this site kept popping up too. I wonder who is behind it.







think their trying to set themselves up like a USA Today - I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 14:48:34
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ya know something that I"m noticing - when I google some of these talking points about the health care bill one of the first sites that pop up are the Examiner sites - what kinda people do they hire there, this cemented that they are the right-wing paper I thought they were from the start
Does yours say Examiner Washington DC? Mine always seem to say Atlanta. I Thought it was strange that this site kept popping up too. I wonder who is behind it.



Copyright © 2009 Clarity Digital Group LLC d/b/a Examiner.com. All Rights reserved.





I just read that the Weekly Standard was sold to Clarity MEDIA group (from Murdoch) I wonder if the 2 are affiliated.


The maze gets deeper than that.. Clarity Digital Group is owned by Philip Antschutz, who is your typical scumbag rail/oil tycoon by inheritance. He has his fucking hands into everything too - radio, television, movies, fundie charities..

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 14:50:20
Nice Scoop!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 15:02:07
jeez - Hearst was a piker compared to some of these media guys

Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 15:12:21
Comment by wickedpam on 08/05/2009 15:15:49
that explains by Reed sounded like Piglet

Comment by livingonli on 08/05/2009 15:17:22
Good morning everyone.



Just when I thought the right-wing couldn't get any creepier it seems like they are. With the astroturf groups and the tactics eerily similar of what happened before the Nazis seized power as the GOP moves to the extreme right in this country makes me worried should they ever get back to power.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 15:27:22
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



Just when I thought the right-wing couldn't get any creepier it seems like they are. With the astroturf groups and the tactics eerily similar of what happened before the Nazis seized power as the GOP moves to the extreme right in this country makes me worried should they ever get back to power.


People (who are educated and not these goddamn insurance-lobby tea-party birther brownshirts) need to get out and counteract this shit. NOW.

Comment by livingonli on 08/05/2009 16:15:18
Raine, did you mention PR watch as a contact

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 16:40:06
Comment by Raine on 08/05/2009 16:54:38


What a heartless, souless bastard.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 17:10:19
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/05/2009 17:30:59
Quote by Scoopster:

Ugh... why?







Because it's mandated that they not fly commercial post 9-11. Without trying to sound mean you are falling for the Pelosi prima dona meme about her jet meme. Check this out, from the fine folks from Snopes.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/05/2009 17:33:04
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/05/2009 17:37:17
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks! Guess who's in the paper again today?







w00t!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/05/2009 17:38:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Ugh... why?





Because it's mandated that they not fly commercial post 9-11. Without trying to sound mean you are falling for the Pelosi prima dona meme about her jet meme. Check this out, from the fine folks from Snopes.


Mondo yer awesome.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/05/2009 17:40:32
Quote by Scoopster:

Okay this one's got me shaking my head..



"Mayor" of Providence tent city arrested for failing to register as a sex offender.



Okay fine.. I get the fact that he's supposed to register. But the guy is HOMELESS LIVING UNDER A BRIDGE - how's he supposed to register if he doesn't have an address?




Not to mention that he is homeless because he is a "sex offender."

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/05/2009 17:41:45
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Ugh... why?





Because it's mandated that they not fly commercial post 9-11. Without trying to sound mean you are falling for the Pelosi prima dona meme about her jet meme. Check this out, from the fine folks from Snopes.


Mondo yer awesome.




Why thankee, Mr Scoop. Since I have time on my hands, I read almost all of Snopes' political stuff.