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Don't Dream.
Author: Raine
Date: 01/21/2008 13:46:14
Let us for today, remember all the work that Martin Luther King did. It was so much more than this speech. He worked to end poverty, to improve labor conditions to end the war. When he was murdered in 1968, he was in Memphis, supporting labour. He was calling for a radical redistribution of wealth in this country. he told the striking sanitation workers '"All labor has dignity, but you're doing another thing. You are reminding not only Memphis, but the nation that it is a crime for people to live in this rich nation and receive starvation wages."
Mr. King had been talking about injustice for a long time. From his Lettter from a Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.
HE spoke out against the war... From Riverside Church in NYC, he said
His house had been firebombed, he had been wiretapped, he constantly recieved death threats to him and his family, he had been thrown in jail, threatened by our government, labeled as a dangerouss radical element to our nation's security, he still carried on his work.
And the night before he was killed, right after another bomb threat, after his flight was delayed, he gave to the world these hallowed words...
So Today, let us not just remember his dream, let us honour and carry on the work he did for all Americans. We must recognize that this man was more than just his I have a dream speech. It is time that we go beyond his dream and start doing. Don't just dream, but rather just do. We have so far to go.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
Mr. King had been talking about injustice for a long time. From his Lettter from a Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963:
HE spoke out against the war... From Riverside Church in NYC, he said
"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected and angry young men I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action.
But they asked, and rightly so, what about Vietnam? They asked if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today, my own government. For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent."
His house had been firebombed, he had been wiretapped, he constantly recieved death threats to him and his family, he had been thrown in jail, threatened by our government, labeled as a dangerouss radical element to our nation's security, he still carried on his work.
And the night before he was killed, right after another bomb threat, after his flight was delayed, he gave to the world these hallowed words...
Well, I don't know what will happen now.
We've got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn't matter with me now.
Because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind.
Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place.
But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will.
And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over.
And I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you.
But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land.
And I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man.
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
So Today, let us not just remember his dream, let us honour and carry on the work he did for all Americans. We must recognize that this man was more than just his I have a dream speech. It is time that we go beyond his dream and start doing. Don't just dream, but rather just do. We have so far to go.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 14:11:49
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 14:11:49
Aw man! I just missed the Rachel/Thom endorsements! Does anyone subscribe to Stephanie that they can make a copy for me if they're not available as downloads?
Comment by 
starling310 on 01/21/2008 14:15:10
starling310 on 01/21/2008 14:15:10
Bill O'Reilly has become a caricature of himself.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:18:39
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:18:39
New blog up! Good morning!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:20:35
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:20:35
:grumble: UNPRINCIPLED?!?!?!
WTF???
WTF???
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/21/2008 14:30:56
Morning, folks!
Javi wants to play with the people:
TriSec on 01/21/2008 14:30:56
Morning, folks!Javi wants to play with the people:
Comment by starling310 on 01/21/2008 14:37:49
starling310 on 01/21/2008 14:37:49
Ijust signed up for Showtime temporarily so I can watch Dexter and LWord. . . I turn it on to make sure it's working and Sophie's Choice is on! It's a sign...a sign of what, I don't know.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:45:00
HEllOOOOO Javi!!!!
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:45:00
Quote by TriSec:
Javi wants to play with the people:
HEllOOOOO Javi!!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:45:37
they want you to keep showtime!
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:45:37
Quote by starling310: Ijust signed up for Showtime temporarily so I can watch Dexter and LWord. . . I turn it on to make sure it's working and Sophie's Choice is on! It's a sign...a sign of what, I don't know.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:47:47
livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:47:47
Good morning everyone. 
Brrr! It's cold today. I just wanna curl under the covers, but I have things to do.
Brrr! It's cold today. I just wanna curl under the covers, but I have things to do.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 14:48:06
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 14:48:06
Morning all.
Happy MLK day! For those that have a job, I guess you have a day off.
Happy MLK day! For those that have a job, I guess you have a day off.
Comment by TriSec on 01/21/2008 14:49:48
TriSec on 01/21/2008 14:49:48
Story out on the MSNBC today....
Tributes to MLK tend to overlook his complexity
But I think Raine scooped them with today's blog! :party:
Tributes to MLK tend to overlook his complexity
But I think Raine scooped them with today's blog! :party:
Comment by 
BobR on 01/21/2008 14:50:38
not me. We get 6 - count 'em 6 - paid holidays a year. :grumble:
Big fucking woo-hoo.
BobR on 01/21/2008 14:50:38
Quote by velveeta jones: Morning all.
Happy MLK day! For those that have a job, I guess you have a day off.
not me. We get 6 - count 'em 6 - paid holidays a year. :grumble:
Big fucking woo-hoo.
Comment by BobR on 01/21/2008 14:51:46
We are on the bleeding edge of the news cycle... : puffs chest:
hmmm - perhaps that's not the right metaphor, considering the day... :redface:
BobR on 01/21/2008 14:51:46
Quote by TriSec: Story out on the MSNBC today....
Tributes to MLK tend to overlook his complexity
But I think Raine scooped them with today's blog! :party:
We are on the bleeding edge of the news cycle... : puffs chest:
hmmm - perhaps that's not the right metaphor, considering the day... :redface:
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:52:14
Party people in the house.
livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:52:14
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:
Javi wants to play with the people:
HEllOOOOO Javi!!!!
Party people in the house.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:52:21
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:52:21
There was voter disenfranchisement in Nevada.
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:54:34
livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:54:34
For my company, MLK day is a paid holiday. I am actually scheduled off today, but since I am still working a full 5-day week. I get paid double time on Tuesday as the holiday while Monday is just a regular day off.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:55:21
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:55:21
Morning! :hug:
And a special hello and good morning to Mr. Javi!!!!
And a special hello and good morning to Mr. Javi!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 14:56:41
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 14:56:41
Off Topic:
I've been researching scientology, thanks to moon-bat crazy Tom, and found this tidbit:
I've been researching scientology, thanks to moon-bat crazy Tom, and found this tidbit:
Heres the kicker: [Charles] Manson took over 150 hours of Scientology courses, but rejected it as too crazy
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:56:42
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:56:42
MOMMA --- PLEASE stop repeating the talking points about Edwards and SC being do or die.
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:56:52
livingonli on 01/21/2008 14:56:52
Good morning Mala.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:57:31
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:57:31
Right and no one pays attention after Super Tuesday makes the rest of us feel like out votes don't matter. 
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 14:57:52
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 14:57:52
G'morning all - today is final recycling day.
Taking my old computer, monitor, scanner and a bag full of video and audio tapes off to the recyclery.
Taking my old computer, monitor, scanner and a bag full of video and audio tapes off to the recyclery.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:57:58
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 14:57:58
Hey Liv and everyone!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 14:58:22
Raine on 01/21/2008 14:58:22
Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable that he spoke at a church?
Sorry, I just think that this is doing that dangerous church and state dance.
Sorry, I just think that this is doing that dangerous church and state dance.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:03:58
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:03:58
Shelagh were you able to scrub your old hard drive?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:04:36
He who? I was setting up my work for the day and didn't hear what this was.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:04:36
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable that he spoke at a church?
Sorry, I just think that this is doing that dangerous church and state dance.
He who? I was setting up my work for the day and didn't hear what this was.
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:04:55
livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:04:55
Today is supposed to be when 3WT starts running Steph in the morning. They bumped Neal Boortz to the evenings so he can get all the sports pre-emptions.
According to the DC ratings, the format change hasn't helped 3WT much.
According to the DC ratings, the format change hasn't helped 3WT much.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:05:49
Obama was here in Atlanta and spoke at MLK's Church.
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:05:49
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable that he spoke at a church?
Sorry, I just think that this is doing that dangerous church and state dance.
He who? I was setting up my work for the day and didn't hear what this was.
Comment by TriSec on 01/21/2008 15:07:02
TriSec on 01/21/2008 15:07:02
I have the holiday today, but like every other holiday I had to log in for an hour or so this morning to kickoff a couple of critical reports...
You'd think with all this automation, we'd be able to figure out how to handle this, but Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
You'd think with all this automation, we'd be able to figure out how to handle this, but Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:08:18
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:08:18
There were firemen at the Edwards rally on Saturday!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:10:22
Most politicans do this now, it's more to pay omage(sp) MILK than it has to do about a church I think.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:10:22
Quote by Raine:Obama was here in Atlanta and spoke at MLK's Church.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable that he spoke at a church?
Sorry, I just think that this is doing that dangerous church and state dance.
He who? I was setting up my work for the day and didn't hear what this was.
Most politicans do this now, it's more to pay omage(sp) MILK than it has to do about a church I think.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:10:25
I talked to a geek and she told me format C is one of the best ways she knows. Also, the guy at the recyclery told me they do a "military" style wipe with all computers.
Sounds good to me.
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:10:25
Quote by wickedpam: Shelagh were you able to scrub your old hard drive?
I talked to a geek and she told me format C is one of the best ways she knows. Also, the guy at the recyclery told me they do a "military" style wipe with all computers.
Sounds good to me.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:12:30
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:12:30
I was at a congressional district Democratic Convention yesterday and, if the guy who spoke for John Edwards is any indication, I think I know why Edwards is having so many problems.
The speakers for Hillary, Kucinich and Obama were dynamic and engaging. The Edwards guy read from a sheet of paper and just sort of talked. I was wearing an Edwards button and literally felt sorry for the guy.
The speakers for Hillary, Kucinich and Obama were dynamic and engaging. The Edwards guy read from a sheet of paper and just sort of talked. I was wearing an Edwards button and literally felt sorry for the guy.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:13:09
NOT A JOKE....
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:13:09
NOT A JOKE....
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:17:12
livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:17:12
Is Jim the only voice monkey who knows the difference between Quebecois and continental French accents.
the only voice monkey who knows the difference between Quebecois and continental French accents.
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:17:31
livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:17:31
Shelagh!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 15:17:40
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 15:17:40
WAHOO!! Don't I "know" her?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:18:39
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:18:39
Was that Shelagh with the Guy fun facts?!!!!! Very Nice! :clap:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:18:52
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:18:52
I can't believe my cell phone started ringing right when she put me on the air!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:19:37
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:19:37
At least it wasn't an annoying ringtone - just sounded like a fax machine :D
Ya did good!
Ya did good!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:21:55
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:21:55
I *never* get on the air that fast. Did I sound as flustered as I thought I did?
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:24:49
You did fine.
livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:24:49
Quote by shelaghc: I *never* get on the air that fast. Did I sound as flustered as I thought I did?
You did fine.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 15:26:36
Yeah, it didn't play something really embarressing, like when I had my wife's cellphone with me, and it played some horrible "gangsta rap" song.........very loudly, in the middle of a meeting.
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 15:26:36
Quote by wickedpam: At least it wasn't an annoying ringtone - just sounded like a fax machine :D
Ya did good!
Yeah, it didn't play something really embarressing, like when I had my wife's cellphone with me, and it played some horrible "gangsta rap" song.........very loudly, in the middle of a meeting.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:30:05
:rofl: I do have to say that I love those awkward moments though, they totally break any tension and lighten a room
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:30:05
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: At least it wasn't an annoying ringtone - just sounded like a fax machine :D
Ya did good!
Yeah, it didn't play something really embarressing, like when I had my wife's cellphone with me, and it played some horrible "gangsta rap" song.........very loudly, in the middle of a meeting.
:rofl: I do have to say that I love those awkward moments though, they totally break any tension and lighten a room
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:30:41
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:30:41
More on the Military commsiions act... Which was passed last year... we were all upset about the loss of Habeus Corpus, but I truly did not know that Bush was granted immunity for all FUTURE crimes.
From Thomas .gov:
From Thomas .gov:
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:37:16
:pout: I missed you shelgh! but your reviews sound GREAT!
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:37:16
:pout: I missed you shelgh! but your reviews sound GREAT!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:41:50
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:41:50
Hmm - I did not know the origin of that slang.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:44:06
Remember the WH press conference when an older female reporter's cell phone started ringing a rap song? Her grandson had reprogrammed it without her knowledge.
That was the one when Tony Snow laughed and said "Play that funky music, white girl!"
One of the few times I actually liked having Snow at that podium.
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 15:44:06
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: At least it wasn't an annoying ringtone - just sounded like a fax machine :D
Ya did good!
Yeah, it didn't play something really embarressing, like when I had my wife's cellphone with me, and it played some horrible "gangsta rap" song.........very loudly, in the middle of a meeting.
Remember the WH press conference when an older female reporter's cell phone started ringing a rap song? Her grandson had reprogrammed it without her knowledge.
That was the one when Tony Snow laughed and said "Play that funky music, white girl!"
One of the few times I actually liked having Snow at that podium.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:53:21
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:53:21
Momma needs to answer these questions...
To answer a question with a question assuming that the listener is an edwards supporter is not very fair.
I have said it before, John Edwards denoucned his vote EARLY on, I can and will find the letter he wrote to the NYT.
To answer a question with a question assuming that the listener is an edwards supporter is not very fair.
I have said it before, John Edwards denoucned his vote EARLY on, I can and will find the letter he wrote to the NYT.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:54:05
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:54:05
:clap: caller!!! THANK YOU!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 15:54:55
Raine on 01/21/2008 15:54:55
OH! Stephanie!!! you godwin'd!
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:55:38
livingonli on 01/21/2008 15:55:38
Time for me to head off to the doctor's office. Wish me luck.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:58:19
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:58:19
umm - not to dimish what the caller is saying but why do people so often forget that women are still sold into slavery, treated like property, abused, not protected by come laws and so forth.
The man's points are valid, but many groups through history have been sold into slavery. It's not right, but it's was conquering nations do and all we can do now is learn from those mistakes and make the world better for everyone.
The man's points are valid, but many groups through history have been sold into slavery. It's not right, but it's was conquering nations do and all we can do now is learn from those mistakes and make the world better for everyone.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:59:02
LUCK! :hug:
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 15:59:02
Quote by livingonli: Time for me to head off to the doctor's office. Wish me luck.
LUCK! :hug:
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:00:30
I think the man was talking about American history.
And in our history, I think it is fair to say that black folks have been treated pretty badly for over 400 years.
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:00:30
Quote by wickedpam: umm - not to dimish what the caller is saying but why do people so often forget that women are still sold into slavery, treated like property, abused, not protected by come laws and so forth.
The man's points are valid, but many groups through history have been sold into slavery. It's not right, but it's was conquering nations do and all we can do now is learn from those mistakes and make the world better for everyone.
And in our history, I think it is fair to say that black folks have been treated pretty badly for over 400 years.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:03:15
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:03:15
I think we lost to Sophie!
to Sophie!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:04:44
True they have. But I think he needs to look outside the borders of this country and see the worlds history. Great civilations of the world have been built by slave labour and not just in the "fertile crescent" region also in South & Latin America.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:04:44
Quote by Raine:I think the man was talking about American history.Quote by wickedpam: umm - not to dimish what the caller is saying but why do people so often forget that women are still sold into slavery, treated like property, abused, not protected by come laws and so forth.
The man's points are valid, but many groups through history have been sold into slavery. It's not right, but it's was conquering nations do and all we can do now is learn from those mistakes and make the world better for everyone.
And in our history, I think it is fair to say that black folks have been treated pretty badly for over 400 years.
True they have. But I think he needs to look outside the borders of this country and see the worlds history. Great civilations of the world have been built by slave labour and not just in the "fertile crescent" region also in South & Latin America.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:09:31
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:09:31
:clap: There are the promos Shelagh!!!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:09:31
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:09:31
I want a copy of those endorsements!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:09:47
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:09:47
Those are cute ads :D
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:10:54
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:10:54
*And* I want to find Shano in Pittsburgh! I'll need all the liberal friends I can get!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:11:26
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:11:26
BTW - saw Cloverfield this weekend! Great old fashioned monster movie!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:11:50
I am sure they will be put up on Momma's site and/or the goldwater miller site... altho as far as GM'08, I don't see them there yet.
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:11:50
Quote by shelaghc: I want a copy of those endorsements!
I am sure they will be put up on Momma's site and/or the goldwater miller site... altho as far as GM'08, I don't see them there yet.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:17:47
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:17:47
HEya, Tri... How close are you from that huge fire in Lawrence?
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:17:55
Cloverfield was quite fun!
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:17:55
Quote by wickedpam: BTW - saw Cloverfield this weekend! Great old fashioned monster movie!
Cloverfield was quite fun!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:18:11
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:18:11
:spit:
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:18:51
Did you hear the voice at the end of the credits? I missed it but someone had it on line.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:18:51
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: BTW - saw Cloverfield this weekend! Great old fashioned monster movie!
Cloverfield was quite fun!
Did you hear the voice at the end of the credits? I missed it but someone had it on line.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:19:51
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:19:51
I need a bumper sticker that says
"Don't make me wish you into a corn field."
"Don't make me wish you into a corn field."
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:21:26
Pssssst! Spoiler warning on that post!
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:21:26
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: BTW - saw Cloverfield this weekend! Great old fashioned monster movie!
Cloverfield was quite fun!
Did you hear the voice at the end of the credits? I missed it but someone had it on line.
Pssssst! Spoiler warning on that post!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:24:20
Is it? I didn't think so - didn't really have anything to do with the plot. I mean at the end we find out that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time which was a schock ;)
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:24:20
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: BTW - saw Cloverfield this weekend! Great old fashioned monster movie!
Cloverfield was quite fun!
Did you hear the voice at the end of the credits? I missed it but someone had it on line.
Pssssst! Spoiler warning on that post!
Is it? I didn't think so - didn't really have anything to do with the plot. I mean at the end we find out that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time which was a schock ;)
Comment by 
m-hadley on 01/21/2008 16:27:03
m-hadley on 01/21/2008 16:27:03
The Goldwater/Miller commercial is available on Progressive Talk 1090AM (http://www.am1090seattle.com/pages/218296.php). Check it out - it is pretty darn hilarious. Oh, hope everyone is having a great MLK Day - me, I'm working =(
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:28:15
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:28:15
MLK and gay people:
His top advisor was gay and MLK was not a homophobe.
His top advisor was gay and MLK was not a homophobe.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:29:12
Wanna hear something funny? After that particular movie came out, a friend and I were talking and she started giving me the plot from start to finish. I hadn't seen it yet and started telling her "You realize I haven't' seen this movie? And she would acknowledge "Yeah, and then __________ happened." And she finished giving me the full story all through to the surprise ending.
Basically, she wasn't connecting that I wanted her to stop telling me the complete plot. I wasn't sure if I wanted to see it because I'm no Bruce Willis fan and Haley Joel creeps me out. But still.......
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:29:12
Quote by wickedpam: Is it? I didn't think so - didn't really have anything to do with the plot. I mean at the end we find out that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time which was a schock ;)
Wanna hear something funny? After that particular movie came out, a friend and I were talking and she started giving me the plot from start to finish. I hadn't seen it yet and started telling her "You realize I haven't' seen this movie? And she would acknowledge "Yeah, and then __________ happened." And she finished giving me the full story all through to the surprise ending.
Basically, she wasn't connecting that I wanted her to stop telling me the complete plot. I wasn't sure if I wanted to see it because I'm no Bruce Willis fan and Haley Joel creeps me out. But still.......
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:30:52
It's a downloadable file?
Woohoo!
btw, I'm having an okay MLK day. Since I'm unemployed and packing to move, I would have had the day off anyway.....
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 16:30:52
Quote by m-hadley: The Goldwater/Miller commercial is available on Progressive Talk 1090AM (http://www.am1090seattle.com/pages/218296.php). Check it out - it is pretty darn hilarious. Oh, hope everyone is having a great MLK Day - me, I'm working =(
It's a downloadable file?
Woohoo!
btw, I'm having an okay MLK day. Since I'm unemployed and packing to move, I would have had the day off anyway.....
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:31:22
I did not -due to me having to pee- what was it? Who said it? Does it imply a sequal? (I hope not).
BTW: RE: Bruce Willis movie, I knew he was dead about 1/4 through the movie. One clue, he never changed his clothes!
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:31:22
Quote by wickedpam: I need a bumper sticker that says
"Don't make me wish you into a corn field."
I did not -due to me having to pee- what was it? Who said it? Does it imply a sequal? (I hope not).
BTW: RE: Bruce Willis movie, I knew he was dead about 1/4 through the movie. One clue, he never changed his clothes!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:35:58
No worries, I wasn't going to give details. Only thing I'll say is if Blair Witch made ya queasy with it's camera work you may want to take something before you see Cloverfield.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:35:58
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by wickedpam: Is it? I didn't think so - didn't really have anything to do with the plot. I mean at the end we find out that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time which was a schock ;)
Wanna hear something funny? After that particular movie came out, a friend and I were talking and she started giving me the plot from start to finish. I hadn't seen it yet and started telling her "You realize I haven't' seen this movie? And she would acknowledge "Yeah, and then __________ happened." And she finished giving me the full story all through to the surprise ending.
Basically, she wasn't connecting that I wanted her to stop telling me the complete plot. I wasn't sure if I wanted to see it because I'm no Bruce Willis fan and Haley Joel creeps me out. But still.......
No worries, I wasn't going to give details. Only thing I'll say is if Blair Witch made ya queasy with it's camera work you may want to take something before you see Cloverfield.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:38:14
HEya m-h!
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:38:14
Quote by m-hadley: The Goldwater/Miller commercial is available on Progressive Talk 1090AM (http://www.am1090seattle.com/pages/218296.php). Check it out - it is pretty darn hilarious. Oh, hope everyone is having a great MLK Day - me, I'm working =(
HEya m-h!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:38:34
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:38:34
The whole "camera work" thingy is just a hook to get people to see the movie. It's like there was a movie in the 70's that was supposed to give out vomit bags due its graphic nature. Might have been Tex. Chain Saw Massacre.
If you can watch your parents old video tapes of birthday parties..........you can watch the movie. No biggie.
If you can watch your parents old video tapes of birthday parties..........you can watch the movie. No biggie.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:39:02
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:39:02
South carolina voting irregularities for the repubs? Just a warm up, a test run, I suppose, for next week.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:39:17
I just thought he was a bad dresser :D
Cloverfield Audio - click only if you've seen the movie this is a spoiler alert!
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:39:17
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by wickedpam: I need a bumper sticker that says
"Don't make me wish you into a corn field."
I did not -due to me having to pee- what was it? Who said it? Does it imply a sequal? (I hope not).
BTW: RE: Bruce Willis movie, I knew he was dead about 1/4 through the movie. One clue, he never changed his clothes!
I just thought he was a bad dresser :D
Cloverfield Audio - click only if you've seen the movie this is a spoiler alert!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:39:20
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 16:39:20
Found the Cloverfield clip online................. There will be a sequel.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:39:54
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:39:54
South carolina voting irregularities for the repubs? Just a warm up, a test run, I suppose, for next week.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:41:15
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:41:15
MAn, I hate that "My Friends" hook...
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:42:27
WIlliam Castle movies are notorious for this kinda stuff. He used to have people sign waivers that it was okay to see his movie. Or have medical staff on hand "in case you needed them". and with the movie The Tinger, he even wired some seats to make it feel like you were being attacked in the theatre and paid people to jump up and interact yelling stuff like "Run! THere it is!"
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:42:27
Quote by velveeta jones: The whole "camera work" thingy is just a hook to get people to see the movie. It's like there was a movie in the 70's that was supposed to give out vomit bags due its graphic nature. Might have been Tex. Chain Saw Massacre.
If you can watch your parents old video tapes of birthday parties..........you can watch the movie. No biggie.
WIlliam Castle movies are notorious for this kinda stuff. He used to have people sign waivers that it was okay to see his movie. Or have medical staff on hand "in case you needed them". and with the movie The Tinger, he even wired some seats to make it feel like you were being attacked in the theatre and paid people to jump up and interact yelling stuff like "Run! THere it is!"
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:43:09
If it's as good as this one then I hope so.
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 16:43:09
Quote by velveeta jones: Found the Cloverfield clip online................. There will be a sequel.
If it's as good as this one then I hope so.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:48:46
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:48:46
:huh:
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:50:00
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:50:00
Some of us simply want the media to give John Edwards a chance.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:51:42
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:51:42
Raw Stroy is reporting this!
Of course, F*cking impeachment is off the table, right?
I am so damn pissed about all of this shite this morning. GRRR>
Of course, F*cking impeachment is off the table, right?
I am so damn pissed about all of this shite this morning. GRRR>
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:54:02
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:54:02
:sigh:
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 16:55:22
Raine on 01/21/2008 16:55:22
Rudy looked scary on TV... like leather and stuff... he spent 2 days in *The Villages*... Who the hell has the time to spent 2 days ion one smallish town during this campaign?
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 17:09:24
Un-believable. I still say.....if they refuse to impeach these criminals than the impeachment vote of Richard M. Nixon should be revoked.
I have started a movement for this........stay tuned.
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 17:09:24
Quote by Raine: Raw Stroy is reporting this!
Of course, F*cking impeachment is off the table, right?
Un-believable. I still say.....if they refuse to impeach these criminals than the impeachment vote of Richard M. Nixon should be revoked.
I have started a movement for this........stay tuned.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 17:53:43
I eagerly await it. I am so damn angry today.
Raine on 01/21/2008 17:53:43
Quote by velveeta jones:Un-believable. I still say.....if they refuse to impeach these criminals than the impeachment vote of Richard M. Nixon should be revoked. I have started a movement for this........stay tuned.Quote by Raine: Raw Stroy is reporting this! Of course, F*cking impeachment is off the table, right?
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 19:03:18
Raine on 01/21/2008 19:03:18
:puke: Johnny Damon is out on the florida campaign circuit... asking for Rudy votes...
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 19:55:14
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 19:55:14
I believe that's the last of the video recycling for now.
Yay! Computer and at least half of the tapes are all out of my life now.
If I'd only known about the recycling centers last summer, I'd be willing to bet the pile would *all* have been gone by now.
Now all I have to do is transfer the stuff I still have to DVD and/or sell the tapes that are left.
Phew!
Yay! Computer and at least half of the tapes are all out of my life now.
If I'd only known about the recycling centers last summer, I'd be willing to bet the pile would *all* have been gone by now.
Now all I have to do is transfer the stuff I still have to DVD and/or sell the tapes that are left.
Phew!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 20:08:18
Raine on 01/21/2008 20:08:18
(have I told y'all lately? The giants are going to the Super bowl!!!)
:P
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 20:09:41
HEya shelagh, don't forget that what you can't sell you can give away on freecycle or on craigslist!
Raine on 01/21/2008 20:09:41
Quote by shelaghc: I believe that's the last of the video recycling for now. Yay! Computer and at least half of the tapes are all out of my life now. If I'd only known about the recycling centers last summer, I'd be willing to bet the pile would *all* have been gone by now. Now all I have to do is transfer the stuff I still have to DVD and/or sell the tapes that are left. Phew!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 20:16:35
These aren't pre-recorded tapes. They're personally recorded TV shows from the eighties, nineties and 2000s. What I'm finding fascinating is the space - some of the stuff I transferred to DVD fits on a disk spindle, but on tape they're in a monster-sized box or bag.
Most of the tapes are older and generally only of interest to people who are trying to find TV shows that haven't yet or possibly never will show up on DVD.
And most of the tapes I'm able to sell rather cheaply - about $1.50 apiece.
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 20:16:35
Quote by Raine:HEya shelagh, don't forget that what you can't sell you can give away on freecycle or on craigslist!Quote by shelaghc: I believe that's the last of the video recycling for now.
Yay! Computer and at least half of the tapes are all out of my life now.
If I'd only known about the recycling centers last summer, I'd be willing to bet the pile would *all* have been gone by now.
Now all I have to do is transfer the stuff I still have to DVD and/or sell the tapes that are left.
Phew!
These aren't pre-recorded tapes. They're personally recorded TV shows from the eighties, nineties and 2000s. What I'm finding fascinating is the space - some of the stuff I transferred to DVD fits on a disk spindle, but on tape they're in a monster-sized box or bag.
Most of the tapes are older and generally only of interest to people who are trying to find TV shows that haven't yet or possibly never will show up on DVD.
And most of the tapes I'm able to sell rather cheaply - about $1.50 apiece.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/21/2008 20:34:22
wickedpam on 01/21/2008 20:34:22
did NovaM just crap out?
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 20:38:13
Seems as tho it did, I switched over to the AAR stream.
Raine on 01/21/2008 20:38:13
Quote by wickedpam: did NovaM just crap out?
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 20:45:05
Raine on 01/21/2008 20:45:05
Florida has a fair tax?? That is not true.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 20:45:57
Raine on 01/21/2008 20:45:57
A state cannot have a fair tax...
Comment by shelaghc on 01/21/2008 21:35:39
I just now thought of something clever I could have said when Stephanie heard the phone ringing.
"Oh, that's just Guy calling. He's always bothering me!"
Okay - maybe not *that* clever. *g*
shelaghc on 01/21/2008 21:35:39
Quote by shelaghc: I can't believe my cell phone started ringing right when she put me on the air!
I just now thought of something clever I could have said when Stephanie heard the phone ringing.
"Oh, that's just Guy calling. He's always bothering me!"
Okay - maybe not *that* clever. *g*
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 21:39:40
Yeah, those clever comebacks, always comeback...........in hindsight!
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 21:39:40
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by shelaghc: I can't believe my cell phone started ringing right when she put me on the air!
I just now thought of something clever I could have said when Stephanie heard the phone ringing.
"Oh, that's just Guy calling. He's always bothering me!"
Okay - maybe not *that* clever. *g*
Yeah, those clever comebacks, always comeback...........in hindsight!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 21:40:52
velveeta jones on 01/21/2008 21:40:52
My wife is watching a "special MLK" Oprah...................and its got me balling like a little baby. Sad and touching and powerful stories.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 22:00:28
Raine on 01/21/2008 22:00:28
Just heard a rumour going around in NY... and if ANYONE in SC (*cough* calling Ms. Jones) can confirm, I would appreciate it. Is hillary pulling out of SC?
Comment by TriSec on 01/21/2008 22:02:46
TriSec on 01/21/2008 22:02:46
Notes from below:
No, Lawrence is about 30 miles north of here.
Johnny Damon goes wherever he gets the most money.
No, Lawrence is about 30 miles north of here.
Johnny Damon goes wherever he gets the most money.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 22:06:23
Raine on 01/21/2008 22:06:23
and for the record... said rumour is NOT an internet rumour.
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 22:07:40
:rofl: so THAT is why Rudy can't pay his staff!
Raine on 01/21/2008 22:07:40
Quote by TriSec: Notes from below: No, Lawrence is about 30 miles north of here. Johnny Damon goes wherever he gets the most money.
Comment by livingonli on 01/21/2008 22:45:01
livingonli on 01/21/2008 22:45:01
I'm back. Did anyone miss me? After the doctor visit I took care of some other things I needed to do today.
Alas, weight is still up so the blood sugar fight is tough. :(
Now that the holidays have been over, I need to get some changes
Alas, weight is still up so the blood sugar fight is tough. :(
Now that the holidays have been over, I need to get some changes
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 23:57:15
Raine on 01/21/2008 23:57:15
coming up on lou dobbs...
"The first test of paperless voting"
No I shit you not... they are going to cover the John McCan voting problems in South Carolina.....
Where the Fck was lou in 2004?!?!?!
"The first test of paperless voting"
No I shit you not... they are going to cover the John McCan voting problems in South Carolina.....
Where the Fck was lou in 2004?!?!?!
Comment by Raine on 01/21/2008 23:59:58
oh liv, tht sux.
Raine on 01/21/2008 23:59:58
Quote by livingonli: I'm back. Did anyone miss me? After the doctor visit I took care of some other things I needed to do today.
Alas, weight is still up so the blood sugar fight is tough. :(
Now that the holidays have been over, I need to get some changes
oh liv, tht sux.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:00:53
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:00:53
here we go...
I remember whn I respected lou dobbs. I don't know if I can do this.
I remember whn I respected lou dobbs. I don't know if I can do this.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 00:36:55
livingonli on 01/22/2008 00:36:55
My local Fox station was just re-running the Marge vs. The Monorail episode of The Simpsons. Classic.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:43:56
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:43:56
The michigan secretary of state just cited Article six of the constitution for disallowing non citizens nin obtaining a licsense in his state.
Looking for some clarification here. article 6 :
can someone explain this? Lou dobbs just called hima great American.
Looking for some clarification here. article 6 :
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
can someone explain this? Lou dobbs just called hima great American.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:46:41
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:46:41
Is there a debate tonite?
CNN says so... But then again, CNN has Lou dobbs. (just like MSNBC has T*cker. )
CNN says so... But then again, CNN has Lou dobbs. (just like MSNBC has T*cker. )
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:49:19
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:49:19
OMg, Lou is implying thta non citizens voted in the nevada causus... he leaped from that to Do not ask, do not tell.
WHY!!!!!!! why am I doing this?
(why? becuase as crazy as we think Bill-O is... we need to start paying attnetion Lou Dobbs.)
WHY!!!!!!! why am I doing this?
(why? becuase as crazy as we think Bill-O is... we need to start paying attnetion Lou Dobbs.)
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:51:58
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:51:58
:puke:
This is all too disgusting... they turned don't ask don't tell into a discusion of civil rights, and MLK.
And Lou dobbs is laughing.
This is all too disgusting... they turned don't ask don't tell into a discusion of civil rights, and MLK.
And Lou dobbs is laughing.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:53:19
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:53:19
There is indeed a debate tonite.
I do not think I can stomach this.
I do not think I can stomach this.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 00:55:40
Raine on 01/22/2008 00:55:40
Actually, I can't watch this debate. CNN is the only one showing it.
I won't I can't. This panders to no one except CNNviewers. Thatis not democratic, at all.
I won't I can't. This panders to no one except CNNviewers. Thatis not democratic, at all.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 00:59:26
livingonli on 01/22/2008 00:59:26
I have to watch Keith. Anyone who is going to watch the debate let me know what's up. They better include all the candidates.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:05:24
we be watching The Wire.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:05:24
Quote by Raine: Actually, I can't watch this debate. CNN is the only one showing it.
I won't I can't. This panders to no one except CNNviewers. Thatis not democratic, at all.
we be watching The Wire.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:05:54
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:05:54
ok for now I am watching... (between CNN and KO) I think this is an important debate... this is the Black congressional caucus, on mlk day.
SO far.. the production values are sucking big time...
SO far.. the production values are sucking big time...
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:07:36
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:07:36
I want to go to KO, but Iam really not in the mood to hearmore of the hillObama debate.
PArtisan? yes. I still believe n my heart that we have three person Race. only three states have been decided out of 50.
PArtisan? yes. I still believe n my heart that we have three person Race. only three states have been decided out of 50.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:08:59
Bobberis not home tonite... we cannot watch, my friend... ;)
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:08:59
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: Actually, I can't watch this debate. CNN is the only one showing it.
I won't I can't. This panders to no one except CNNviewers. Thatis not democratic, at all.
we be watching The Wire.
Bobberis not home tonite... we cannot watch, my friend... ;)
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:09:59
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:09:59
John Edwards CAN defeat McCain in the general election.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:12:08
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:12:08
Hillary, pandering to the CBC.
Obama is stumbling a bit...
Still waitng to hear from John.
Obama is stumbling a bit...
Still waitng to hear from John.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:12:15
livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:12:15
And they left out Kucinich again. He is still in the race, come to think of it so is Mike Gravel. Whatever it takes to move discourse further to the left.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:13:13
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:13:13
Ohh man Prop Joe quote of the show!
Butchy kept it quite as a puppy walking on cotton.
Butchy kept it quite as a puppy walking on cotton.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:13:16
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:13:16
Just back from teaching a class at the REd Cross.............listening to the debate. If it becomes a HillBama festival then I'll be.............
Oh, oh............pager gone off, nevermind
Oh, oh............pager gone off, nevermind
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:14:31
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:14:31
WTF? hillary thinks tax rebates are going to help the economy?
Here comes John... saying that his plan has no tax rebates... Bring it on john... he is going to tell us about his stimulous package... he has ALWAYS hada plan.
Here comes John... saying that his plan has no tax rebates... Bring it on john... he is going to tell us about his stimulous package... he has ALWAYS hada plan.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:15:27
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:15:27
Ohhhh guess who is sitting at the counter of the crappy Greek diner while Marlo talks with Vondis???
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:16:00
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:16:00
Fucking A john! wat to go to stop letting wolf twist your words!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:17:04
you must stop teasing. I have made my stance clear.
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:17:04
Quote by Mondobubba: Ohhhh guess who is sitting at the counter of the crappy Greek diner while Marlo talks with Vondis???
you must stop teasing. I have made my stance clear.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:18:00
As I've been reading Krugman's "The Great Unravalling" there is a lot of discussion of how tax cuts aren't good as short term stimulus for the economy.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:18:00
Quote by Raine: WTF? hillary thinks tax rebates are going to help the economy?
Here comes John... saying that his plan has no tax rebates... Bring it on john... he is going to tell us about his stimulous package... he has ALWAYS hada plan.
As I've been reading Krugman's "The Great Unravalling" there is a lot of discussion of how tax cuts aren't good as short term stimulus for the economy.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:19:12
:poke:
:70s porno music:
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:19:12
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba: Ohhhh guess who is sitting at the counter of the crappy Greek diner while Marlo talks with Vondis???
you must stop teasing. I have made my stance clear.
:poke:
:70s porno music:
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:19:22
This ias sounding so old school.
Daym
Let john speak!!!
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:19:22
Quote by velveeta jones: Just back from teaching a class at the REd Cross.............listening to the debate. If it becomes a HillBama festival then I'll be.............
Oh, oh............pager gone off, nevermind
This ias sounding so old school.
Daym
Let john speak!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:20:13
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:20:13
Thank you wolfe for lettng john get back to point!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:21:39
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:21:39
Oh hell Barack is trying to tell John that HE understands what the edwards family went through... :bad:
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:22:16
livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:22:16
McCain now leads 911Ghouilaini 34-19 in New York State!
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:22:40
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:22:40
So far 20minutes in, I gotta say, hillary is on the defense, and she isn't the NYG giants!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:25:22
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:25:22
I'm back, someone else is going to take this call.
People: stop burning your houses!
People: stop burning your houses!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:26:37
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:26:37
BITCHFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:27:15
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:27:15
HELL YEAH!!
SLAM!!
SLAM!!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:27:29
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:27:29
HOLY CRAP!!! BArack and Hill are both raising voices.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:28:49
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:28:49
If Hillary gets all: "Oh no you di'nt........talk to the hand playa".
THEN, I'd vote for her .............
maybe.
THEN, I'd vote for her .............
maybe.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:29:48
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:29:48
Wolf is scared.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:29:49
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:29:49
NOW ias the tme for Edwards to make it CLEAR that he is a member of this debate... and that he s running for president.... if hill and barack wanna have a lovers quarrel, then great... take it out back... let John speak.
HOLY SHIT!!!!! hillary just brought up slum lord!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY SHIT!!!!! hillary just brought up slum lord!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:30:14
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:30:14
OMG!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU JOHN!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:30:41
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:30:41
My HERO! Brings it back to reality.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:31:32
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:31:32
John just tok it down town reminding people that this is not about personal shit, which JUST happened between Hill and obama.
HE took the debate back to POLICY! :rock:
HE took the debate back to POLICY! :rock:
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:32:11
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:32:11
Quote by velveeta jones: My HERO! Brings it back to reality.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:32:13
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:32:13
GO John.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:32:27
I just want to see it for shits and giggles. I think I would need a lot of drinks after that before I could still consider voting for her.
livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:32:27
Quote by velveeta jones: If Hillary gets all: "Oh no you di'nt........talk to the hand playa".
THEN, I'd vote for her .............
maybe.
I just want to see it for shits and giggles. I think I would need a lot of drinks
after that before I could still consider voting for her.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:34:03
:rofl: with the side to side head motion??
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:34:03
Quote by velveeta jones: If Hillary gets all: "Oh no you di'nt........talk to the hand playa".
THEN, I'd vote for her .............
maybe.
:rofl: with the side to side head motion??
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:34:29
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:34:29
OMG... John... saying the Sub prime mortgage issue is about race. THANK YOU JOHN!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:34:56
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:34:56
Oh dear, John is sounding like a brother! Not good for Barack.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:37:16
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:37:16
Hillaty's plan with the moratorium means that during those 90 days, the tax payers pay. someone has to pay for those bills.
just saying.
just saying.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:38:39
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:38:39
This kid is very excited for John:
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:39:54
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:39:54
John needs to keep going! STOP letting this all about Hill and Obam. that slum lord issue is going to come back and haunt them both.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:40:23
livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:40:23
KO has the author of "Bush's Brain" talking about Oliver Stone's planned Bush pic.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:40:29
:rofl: me too
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:40:29
Quote by velveeta jones: This kid is very excited for John:
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:41:56
But who would portray bush? My vote: Will Ferrell.
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:41:56
Quote by livingonli: KO has the author of "Bush's Brain" talking about Oliver Stone's planned Bush pic.
But who would portray bush? My vote: Will Ferrell.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:42:32
Ya think? Thankee John! It is about time.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:42:32
Quote by Raine: OMG... John... saying the Sub prime mortgage issue is about race. THANK YOU JOHN!!!
Ya think? Thankee John! It is about time.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:42:39
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:42:39
Go on Hill... you go and atack Obama. FuckinA...
This is nasty shite.
LOOK at the body language, OH!!!! john! jump on in!!!
This is nasty shite.
LOOK at the body language, OH!!!! john! jump on in!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:43:37
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:43:37
:puke: hill got the HAND... oh yes she did.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:43:43
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:43:43
Barack is all but calling them LIARS.
Now Hillary is getting Boo'd.
John needs to stay out of the dirt and focus on the issues!
Now Hillary is getting Boo'd.
John needs to stay out of the dirt and focus on the issues!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:44:47
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:44:47
John, raise your hand... tell them again youare PRESENT!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:45:40
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:45:40
Whoops, hope his family doesn't mind him annoucing that some members were sexually assualted. D'oh.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:45:46
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:45:46
John needs to take BOTH of them on now.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:46:25
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:46:25
Holy SHIT! Johnny 34 the dockworker is now homeless! Nice cameo, Simon! Rock on!
Rock on!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:47:32
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:47:32
SLAM.
Illanois is NOT the senate. this is a serious issue
Illanois is NOT the senate. this is a serious issue
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:48:03
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 01:48:03
Raine Omar is the only character on The Wire who has any sense of ethics. Discuss.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:49:22
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:49:22
so, seriously... John took obama down... next up... Hillary. This is serious stuff he is asking.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:50:10
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:50:10
Ahhhhh... healthcare... This should be good.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:53:07
I amfocused on the CNN debate right now. I said I cannot watch the show tonite... so I say yes, as per our previous discussions... in the meantime...
the debate.
Obama just pulled a raygun.... ;)
REgarding healthcare, he did.
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:53:07
Quote by Mondobubba: Raine Omar is the only character on The Wire who has any sense of ethics. Discuss.
the debate.
Obama just pulled a raygun.... ;)
REgarding healthcare, he did.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:55:58
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:55:58
I just love the way John (and Dennis were he there) compliments his opponets at times. Very smart.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:56:24
livingonli on 01/22/2008 01:56:24
Tonight's worst persons;
3. John Bolton-attacking the NIE/State Department for illegitimate politicization when they disputed the Iran claims. Oh, gee like the necons didn't falsify the data. :rolleyes:
2. Dick Morris for his latest attack on Hill's temper. KO actually asked what he was like in the middle of the night with a hooker when calling the President.
1. mAnn Coulter-For saying that a majority of Southern bases were named after Confederate Generals. So , Eisenhower fought in the Confederate Army?
3. John Bolton-attacking the NIE/State Department for illegitimate politicization when they disputed the Iran claims. Oh, gee like the necons didn't falsify the data. :rolleyes:
2. Dick Morris for his latest attack on Hill's temper. KO actually asked what he was like in the middle of the night with a hooker when calling the President.
1. mAnn Coulter-For saying that a majority of Southern bases were named after Confederate Generals. So , Eisenhower fought in the Confederate Army?
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:56:55
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:56:55
I want to say a very imprtant thing here...ALL of these issues,,,EVERY one of them, John edwards has driven the debate, he has ALWAYS been out in front discussing these issues.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:58:46
STOP teasing me!! :rofl:
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:58:46
Quote by Raine:I amfocused on the CNN debate right now. I said I cannot watch the show tonite... so I say yes, as per our previous discussions... in the meantime...Quote by Mondobubba: Raine Omar is the only character on The Wire who has any sense of ethics. Discuss.
the debate.
Obama just pulled a raygun.... ;)
REgarding healthcare, he did.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 01:59:21
Raine on 01/22/2008 01:59:21
AMEN JOHN!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:59:30
yes and yes!
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 01:59:30
Quote by Raine: I want to say a very imprtant thing here...ALL of these issues,,,EVERY one of them, John edwards has driven the debate, he has ALWAYS been out in front discussing these issues.
yes and yes!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:02:08
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:02:08
But hill... will you denounce the big pharma folks?
You got an awful lotta money from them...
Go on john... get passionate... You should.
You got an awful lotta money from them...
Go on john... get passionate... You should.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:02:50
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:02:50
Mother Fuckin' Marlo! You will know why I said it when you watch it Raine. :rage:
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:05:36
livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:05:36
Now that KO is over, I've switched to CNN. The debate is in HD.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:06:06
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:06:06
BULSHIT HILL.
you tell me you are gonna end the war and I might think abot votng for you.
Until then Iwill stick with Edwards.
you tell me you are gonna end the war and I might think abot votng for you.
Until then Iwill stick with Edwards.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:07:41
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:07:41
Full on confrontation from john!
(regarding the war)
HE took it to the mat!
(regarding the war)
HE took it to the mat!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:09:33
Ummm as much as I hate to say it, mAnn has a point. Most of the bases in the south are named for CSA generals. Like Fort A.P. Hill.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:09:33
Quote by livingonli: Tonight's worst persons;
3. John Bolton-attacking the NIE/State Department for illegitimate politicization when they disputed the Iran claims. Oh, gee like the necons didn't falsify the data. :rolleyes:
2. Dick Morris for his latest attack on Hill's temper. KO actually asked what he was like in the middle of the night with a hooker when calling the President.
1. mAnn Coulter-For saying that a majority of Southern bases were named after Confederate Generals. So , Eisenhower fought in the Confederate Army?
Ummm as much as I hate to say it, mAnn has a point. Most of the bases in the south are named for CSA generals. Like Fort A.P. Hill.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:11:11
:grumble:
I know I will
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:11:11
Quote by Mondobubba: Mother Fuckin' Marlo! You will know why I said it when you watch it Raine. :rage:
:grumble:
I know I will
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:11:31
Did he just bitch slap Hil & Obama or just Hil??
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:11:31
Quote by Raine: Full on confrontation from john!
(regarding the war)
HE took it to the mat!
Did he just bitch slap Hil & Obama or just Hil??
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 02:12:13
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 02:12:13
Hillary is losing her voice.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:12:41
You will not see it coming.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:12:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba: Mother Fuckin' Marlo! You will know why I said it when you watch it Raine. :rage:
:grumble:
I know I will
You will not see it coming.
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 02:14:28
umm....hi?
TriSec on 01/22/2008 02:14:28
umm....hi?
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:14:37
both.
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:14:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: Full on confrontation from john!
(regarding the war)
HE took it to the mat!
Did he just bitch slap Hil & Obama or just Hil??
both.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:15:02
This is bad how???
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:15:02
Quote by velveeta jones: Hillary is losing her voice.
This is bad how???
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:17:35
Turn on CNN, best as I can review, Hill and Obama are in a hissy fit, and when they let edwrds in, he shows how great he his at diplomacy.
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:17:35
Quote by TriSec:
umm....hi?
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:18:59
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:18:59
Halliry and Obama are fighting big time... John edwards is showing what a diplomatic leader he can be.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:19:22
Last chance to answer the Subaru question. Clock is ticking.
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:19:22
Quote by TriSec:
umm....hi?
Last chance to answer the Subaru question. Clock is ticking.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:19:58
Sweet!
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:19:58
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: Full on confrontation from john!
(regarding the war)
HE took it to the mat!
Did he just bitch slap Hil & Obama or just Hil??
both.
Sweet!
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:21:22
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:21:22
Oh hell, barack lost me... that was direct white racsism, against Edwards, I think,
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:21:30
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 02:21:30
Ugh. Forgot to mention that The DS-9 changling, Mitt was in J-ville today. Pandering to the black folks here. :curls lip: He was in the MLK parade.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:22:49
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:22:49
VJ you stil here? did you here what barack said about white voters votiing for edwards?
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 02:23:56
TriSec on 01/22/2008 02:23:56
Comment by TriSec on 1/20/2008 11:21:41 PMHeya Mondo... I got that voice mail.
Nope, nothing weird or unusual at all...I bought mine new, so it's only been routine maintenence.
The local guys like Valvoline Instant Oil Change and Sullivan Tire also work on them, so no difficulties this way. I've only had to do oil changes...nothing's broke otherwise.
I'd give you two caveats....you didn't say where your friend was that was interested in buying one, and both would be relevant to Florida.
The air conditioning is weak. Mrs. TriSec's 14-year-old Escort still pumps out more cold air on a hot day.
Subees are rare in the south...we had tire trouble on the way to Disney, and wound up paying through the nose at the ol' Disney Care Care Center because "it's an unusual size tire" and were hard to come by down there, or so the man said.
But otherwise...solid ride, great transmission (5-speed, anyway) and not too thirsty.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:30:25
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:30:25
:grumble:
BASically what I just heard from barck, is that women should vote for hillary, blacks for barack and white men for Edwards...
I was not happy with what I just heard from barack.
BASically what I just heard from barck, is that women should vote for hillary, blacks for barack and white men for Edwards...
I was not happy with what I just heard from barack.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:34:13
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:34:13
You know what? I despise this insider talk between barack hillary and the caucus.
Comment by Raine on 01/22/2008 02:37:35
Raine on 01/22/2008 02:37:35
I wish they were still standing. John need to speak up again NOW.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:48:55
livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:48:55
Mike Malloy was ripping into Obama's Reagan comment. He felt that it was a pro-Reagan statement and then reminded us of the legacy of Ronzo's foreign policy. He is worried that either of these two will stick us with a Republican in the White House again.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 02:52:51
velveeta jones on 01/22/2008 02:52:51
Later guys....................
love the debate, but I got a better offer. :wink:
love the debate, but I got a better offer. :wink:
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:58:23
livingonli on 01/22/2008 02:58:23
Have fun, VJ. ;)
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:02:46
TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:02:46
*grunt*
Back to the mines tomorrow. There's a big meeting about AthenaMaine, but I have a schedule conflict...I think I'm going to miss it.
Still trying to get Mrs. TriSec to give me a green light. We're up to yellow, though.
Back to the mines tomorrow. There's a big meeting about AthenaMaine, but I have a schedule conflict...I think I'm going to miss it.
Still trying to get Mrs. TriSec to give me a green light. We're up to yellow, though.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 03:06:42
livingonli on 01/22/2008 03:06:42
Tri, how much do you think the market will drop tomorrow?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 03:08:21
So when is there going to be Athena Florida???
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 03:08:21
Quote by TriSec: *grunt*
Back to the mines tomorrow. There's a big meeting about AthenaMaine, but I have a schedule conflict...I think I'm going to miss it.
Still trying to get Mrs. TriSec to give me a green light. We're up to yellow, though.
So when is there going to be Athena Florida???
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:08:58
TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:08:58
Well, given how much the global market has sunk, and I saw over at UNN that the leading Canadian indicator was off 600 today...
I really can't say. When do the automatic trading restrictions kick in? (instituted post-1987 crash, if you recall.)
I'd say we hit the trigger, wherever that is. Could be ugly.
I really can't say. When do the automatic trading restrictions kick in? (instituted post-1987 crash, if you recall.)
I'd say we hit the trigger, wherever that is. Could be ugly.
Comment by livingonli on 01/22/2008 03:10:07
livingonli on 01/22/2008 03:10:07
You do not want to see Candy Crowley in HD. Way too much makeup.
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:11:23
Ah, but there is already. Sort of.
PSS buys a stake in AtheanaHealth
TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:11:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
So when is there going to be Athena Florida???
Ah, but there is already. Sort of.
PSS buys a stake in AtheanaHealth
JACKSONVILLE, FL – A company that focuses on supplying doctors with medical products and inventory management systems is looking to help them pay their bills, too.
PSS World Medical of Jacksonville, Fla. announced on July 2 that it has made a $22.5 million equity investment, approximately 5 percent of current outstanding shares, in athenahealth, Inc., a Watertown, Mass.-based provider of revenue cycle management, practice management and EMR solutions.
In addition, PSS’ Physician Sales & Service branch will be marketing athenahealth’s Web-based solutions to the physician market.
According to David Smith, PSS World Medical’s CEO, small-practice physicians who aren’t affiliated with hospitals – he estimates there are between 200,000 and 300,000 in the country – have seen their incomes drop 10 percent over the past five or six years due to insurance reimbursement problems and rising administrative costs associated with billing. And studies have indicated that 35 percent of medical charges submitted by doctors to insurance companies for reimbursement are denied.
‘That’s the work you do for free,” he says. And for small-practice physicians who are “outgunned and outmanned and out-dollared by the insurance companies, that’s too much.”
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:17:59
TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:17:59
Yankee 406-heavy, back in the barn for the night.
Over and Out!
:peace:
Over and Out!
:peace:
Comment by TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:21:25
TriSec on 01/22/2008 03:21:25
Not quite shut down.....
NYSE circuit breaker levels
Not sure we'll get there, but more than 500 points doesn't seem out of the question tomorrow...
NYSE circuit breaker levels
Not sure we'll get there, but more than 500 points doesn't seem out of the question tomorrow...
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 04:23:22
Mondobubba on 01/22/2008 04:23:22
Comment by shelaghc on 01/22/2008 04:37:38
shelaghc on 01/22/2008 04:37:38
I feel so dirty.
C&L posted a pic of Lymphbah planting one on some poor woman's mouf.
C&L posted a pic of Lymphbah planting one on some poor woman's mouf.