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Your Vaginas belong to Them
Author: Raine
Date: 02/07/2008 09:00:37
This is not a pretty blog today. The content is ugly and the story is not pretty.
We have a VERY serious problem. AMERICAN women are just another casualty in Bush's war on terror. In all the drama, the constant dribble of horrific stories we hear every day, the constant numbing down that we all feel, we are missing a VERY serious serial problem with one company in particular.
Halliburton/KBR ... They force employees to give up their civil rights in order to be employed. That means you as a woman have the right to be raped by your fellow workers.
No, I am not kidding. And YES, the Government is complicit.
From ABC news, On December 12, 2007:Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR
KBR Told Victim She Could Lose Her Job If She Sought Help After Being Raped, She Says
ABC news reported the following on December 14, 2007Another KBR Rape Claim Brings Scrutiny Boldface mine. Last night I came across the following story. I finally snapped.
ALSO from ABC news:
Sex Assault Suit Vs. Halliburton Killed
Alleged Sexual Assault Victim's Case Forced Into Secretive Arbitration It doesn't (or shouldn't) matter to me WHAT kind of contract you sign, if you are raped or sexually assaulted on the job, as a woman, here in AMERICA, you should be able to have your case heard in court.
From The Equal Opportunity Employment Commision:
What we have here are judges who are bending to the wills of a company that encourages raping women by turning a blind eye to the civil rights act. What we have here is a company that has a government contract --- and that is KEY -- who allows for the rape and assault of women. They allow it by trying to shut these women up. They allow it by the very fact that they have a contract that takes away a woman's right for a civil and public trial if they are raped or assaulted.
These are only three brave woman who have chosen to speak out. For every three, I am more than sure, there are many others who will not. I cannot understand WHY for the life of me why any company would have a clause in a hiring contract that takes away a persons right to claim publicly that their civil rights were denied. These woman were sexually abused, and they don't get a civil trial. Hell they aren't even seeing a Criminal case. NO ONE HAS BEEN CHARGED.
Did you get that? There are NO criminal charges pending in ANY of these cases. No one is being held responsible, and no one is being punished (well, with the exception of these women, who are not getting their day in court).
The government is not doing all it should to prevent or to stop this from continuing. Halliburton/KBR are allowed to continue this behaviour with no worries. That makes the government complicit in allowing our sisters, mothers, wives, daughters, partners and lovers to be raped and assaulted while the company that employs them keeps on getting a paycheck from, ultimately, you and I.
Why is this company still allowed to do work for the government? Is it just another one one of those freedoms clearly stated in the constitution that we have to give up to be secure?
It's a tragedy that American Women are subjected to this in this day and age. It is a tragedy that the Department of Justice and the Pentagon and ALL of the people who say they are fighting this war to protect America from the bad guys are letting this happen to our own... it is a tragedy that it is happening to them, our sisters, BY OUR OWN.
OH... in case you were wondering about Tracy Barker and Jamie Jones? The DoJ has decided they will not investigate KBR on these allegations. (Background on Tracy Barkers case here. and And the Pentagon's decision regarding Jamie Jones..) So, if you have ovaries, welcome to back to the bad old days when being a Woman meant being a second class citizen in the United States of America, where Terror rules, and all your vaginas belong to them.
Women deserve better than this treatment. Too many of our mothers and grandmothers and great grandmothers fought too hard for this to still be happening. I don't care if we have a woman president... I don't. These woman were terrorized while they were employed for a company allegedly assisting in the fight on the War on Terror™.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
We have a VERY serious problem. AMERICAN women are just another casualty in Bush's war on terror. In all the drama, the constant dribble of horrific stories we hear every day, the constant numbing down that we all feel, we are missing a VERY serious serial problem with one company in particular.
Halliburton/KBR ... They force employees to give up their civil rights in order to be employed. That means you as a woman have the right to be raped by your fellow workers.
No, I am not kidding. And YES, the Government is complicit.
From ABC news, On December 12, 2007:
KBR Told Victim She Could Lose Her Job If She Sought Help After Being Raped, She Says
A Houston, Texas woman says she was gang-raped by Halliburton/KBR coworkers in Baghdad, and the company and the U.S. government are covering up the incident.
Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.
"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.
In a lawsuit filed in federal court against Halliburton and its then-subsidiary KBR, Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave.
"It felt like prison," says Jones, who told her story to ABC News as part of an upcoming "20/20" investigation. "I was upset; I was curled up in a ball on the bed; I just could not believe what had happened."
Finally, Jones says, she convinced a sympathetic guard to loan her a cell phone so she could call her father in Texas.
"I said, 'Dad, I've been raped. I don't know what to do. I'm in this container, and I'm not able to leave,'" she said. Her father called their congressman, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas.
"We contacted the State Department first," Poe told ABCNews.com, "and told them of the urgency of rescuing an American citizen" -- from her American employer.
Poe says his office contacted the State Department, which quickly dispatched agents from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad to Jones' camp, where they rescued her from the container.
According to her lawsuit, Jones was raped by "several attackers who first drugged her, then repeatedly raped and injured her, both physically and emotionally."
Jones told ABCNews.com that an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally," but that the rape kit disappeared after it was handed over to KBR security officers.
A spokesperson for the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security told ABCNews.com he could not comment on the matter.
Over two years later, the Justice Department has brought no criminal charges in the matter. In fact, ABC News could not confirm any federal agency was investigating the case.
Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law.
"It's very troubling," said Dean John Hutson of the Franklin Pierce Law Center. "The way the law presently stands, I would say that they don't have, at least in the criminal system, the opportunity for justice."
Congressman Poe says neither the departments of State nor Justice will give him answers on the status of the Jones investigation.
ABC news reported the following on December 14, 2007
Congress is asking questions about another ex-employee of government contracting firm KBR who claims she was raped in Iraq.
Letters to the Pentagon and the Justice Department today from Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. underscore congressional concern about a second alleged assault, this time of a woman from Florida who reportedly worked for a KBR subsidiary in Ramadi, Iraq in 2005.
[....]
In particular, Nelson expressed concern that in the case of Jamie Leigh Jones, the U.S. Army doctor who examined her turned over the rape examination kit, thought to contain useful evidence, to KBR officials. In the letter, Nelson also asked for an investigation to determine how many rape examinations were performed by U.S. military doctors in Iraq, and what was being done to ensure the cases were prosecuted.
In a separate letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Nelson asked why there has been no criminal prosecution in the case of the alleged Florida victim. The woman, reportedly now 41, has alleged she was raped in her living quarters. She has sued KBR and Halliburton in civil court, but the judge ordered the case into private arbitration.
ALSO from ABC news:
Alleged Sexual Assault Victim's Case Forced Into Secretive Arbitration
A mother of five who says she was sexually harassed and assaulted while working for Halliburton/KBR in Iraq is headed for a secretive arbitration process rather than being able to present her case in open court.
A judge in Texas has ruled that Tracy Barker's case will be heard in arbitration, according to the terms of her initial employment contract.
Barker says that while in Iraq she was constantly propositioned by her superior, threatened and isolated after she reported an incident of sexual assault.
Barker's attorneys had argued that Halliburton/KBR had created a "boys will be boys" atmosphere at their camps and that sort of condition is not the type of dispute that she could have expected to be within the scope of an arbitration provision.
District Judge Gray Miller, however, wrote in his order that "whether it is wise to send this type of claim to arbitration is not a question for this court to decide."
"Sadly," wrote Judge Miller, "sexual harassment, up to and including sexual assault, is a reality in today's workplace."
Barker says it was a reality at Halliburton/KBR. From the moment she arrived at the Halliburton/KBR camp in Basra, Iraq, she says she was treated like a sex object.
"When I arrived in Basra, there were about five men that worked on the camp for the company I worked for and they were waiting for me," Barker told ABC News in an exclusive interview that aired last December.
From The Equal Opportunity Employment Commision:
Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.Title VII applies to employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. It also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government.
Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance, or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive work environment.
What we have here are judges who are bending to the wills of a company that encourages raping women by turning a blind eye to the civil rights act. What we have here is a company that has a government contract --- and that is KEY -- who allows for the rape and assault of women. They allow it by trying to shut these women up. They allow it by the very fact that they have a contract that takes away a woman's right for a civil and public trial if they are raped or assaulted.
These are only three brave woman who have chosen to speak out. For every three, I am more than sure, there are many others who will not. I cannot understand WHY for the life of me why any company would have a clause in a hiring contract that takes away a persons right to claim publicly that their civil rights were denied. These woman were sexually abused, and they don't get a civil trial. Hell they aren't even seeing a Criminal case. NO ONE HAS BEEN CHARGED.
Did you get that? There are NO criminal charges pending in ANY of these cases. No one is being held responsible, and no one is being punished (well, with the exception of these women, who are not getting their day in court).
The government is not doing all it should to prevent or to stop this from continuing. Halliburton/KBR are allowed to continue this behaviour with no worries. That makes the government complicit in allowing our sisters, mothers, wives, daughters, partners and lovers to be raped and assaulted while the company that employs them keeps on getting a paycheck from, ultimately, you and I.
Why is this company still allowed to do work for the government? Is it just another one one of those freedoms clearly stated in the constitution that we have to give up to be secure?
It's a tragedy that American Women are subjected to this in this day and age. It is a tragedy that the Department of Justice and the Pentagon and ALL of the people who say they are fighting this war to protect America from the bad guys are letting this happen to our own... it is a tragedy that it is happening to them, our sisters, BY OUR OWN.
OH... in case you were wondering about Tracy Barker and Jamie Jones? The DoJ has decided they will not investigate KBR on these allegations. (Background on Tracy Barkers case here. and And the Pentagon's decision regarding Jamie Jones..) So, if you have ovaries, welcome to back to the bad old days when being a Woman meant being a second class citizen in the United States of America, where Terror rules, and all your vaginas belong to them.
Women deserve better than this treatment. Too many of our mothers and grandmothers and great grandmothers fought too hard for this to still be happening. I don't care if we have a woman president... I don't. These woman were terrorized while they were employed for a company allegedly assisting in the fight on the War on Terror™.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 13:44:59
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 13:44:59
I have been keeping up with these stories. I am so fucking APALLED! Especially the response - or lack thereof- of the courts.
Let me go ahead and say what we already know: HALLIBURTON/KBR SEEMS TO SHOW ALL THE SIGNS OF BEING A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
If you don't hear from me later on today........... check Gitmo.
Let me go ahead and say what we already know: HALLIBURTON/KBR SEEMS TO SHOW ALL THE SIGNS OF BEING A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
If you don't hear from me later on today........... check Gitmo.
Comment by 
TriSec on 02/07/2008 13:47:01
Raine bringing the goods!
Remember folks, you won't see this anywhere else. At least until our links to the internets are cut off...
Aside: We're on day 2 of the deathwatch here. Still at 101º, but that is down from yesterday. And that was the morning temp after all the aspirin wore off. I've got some tylenol in me now, we'll see what happens.
TriSec on 02/07/2008 13:47:01
Raine bringing the goods!
Remember folks, you won't see this anywhere else. At least until our links to the internets are cut off...
Aside: We're on day 2 of the deathwatch here. Still at 101º, but that is down from yesterday. And that was the morning temp after all the aspirin wore off. I've got some tylenol in me now, we'll see what happens.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 02/07/2008 13:59:03
m-hadley on 02/07/2008 13:59:03
Raine,
Amazing f*ckin' post, amazing f*ckin' stories, amazing lack of coverage in the MSM, though I've heard about these crimes, I have never read such a powerful piece that pulls them all together - you, my dear, are a great writer/journalist/blogger...
Mornin' gang, I'm at work this morning - just toiling away in my tiny office here in the liberry ;)
Amazing f*ckin' post, amazing f*ckin' stories, amazing lack of coverage in the MSM, though I've heard about these crimes, I have never read such a powerful piece that pulls them all together - you, my dear, are a great writer/journalist/blogger...
Mornin' gang, I'm at work this morning - just toiling away in my tiny office here in the liberry ;)
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 14:30:18
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 14:30:18
I am one of those that will NOT vote for Clinton I'm sorry, but I stood for Kucinich, then for Edwards. I'll vote for Obama, but won't be happy about it. If the super-delegates go to Clinton and its a race between her and McCain (and Nader) ....................
Velveeta will not vote at all!!!!!! Why should I?
Velveeta will not vote at all!!!!!! Why should I?
Comment by m-hadley on 02/07/2008 14:34:59
m-hadley on 02/07/2008 14:34:59
VJ,
I hate to say this, 'cause I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton either, but the prospect of president mccain scares the bejesus out of me, and I would rather not have to leave a country that I once loved because the electorate has their collective heads up their asses - present company excluded ;(
I hate to say this, 'cause I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton either, but the prospect of president mccain scares the bejesus out of me, and I would rather not have to leave a country that I once loved because the electorate has their collective heads up their asses - present company excluded ;(
Comment by 
starling310 on 02/07/2008 14:53:37
starling310 on 02/07/2008 14:53:37
Morning.... 
Working from home today. . . I was feeling run down and like I might be getting sick. And, other people come into work spewing germs so I thought I would be better off between my own 4 walls.
Ok...I have to read Raine's post.
Working from home today. . . I was feeling run down and like I might be getting sick. And, other people come into work spewing germs so I thought I would be better off between my own 4 walls.
Ok...I have to read Raine's post.
Comment by 
BobR on 02/07/2008 14:54:39
BobR on 02/07/2008 14:54:39
morning, folks... :coffee:
Comment by 
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 14:56:27
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 14:56:27
Raine, may I post a link to this blog entry from my blog and possibly a community on Livejournal?
The more people see it and are outraged, the better the chances that someone who can do something will see it.
The more people see it and are outraged, the better the chances that someone who can do something will see it.
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 15:01:01
Raine will be asleep for a while (note the time she posted it), but I can guarantee you she would like as many people as possible to see this.
BobR on 02/07/2008 15:01:01
Quote by shelaghc: Raine, may I post a link to this blog entry from my blog and possibly a community on Livejournal?
The more people see it and are outraged, the better the chances that someone who can do something will see it.
Raine will be asleep for a while (note the time she posted it), but I can guarantee you she would like as many people as possible to see this.
Comment by starling310 on 02/07/2008 15:01:56
starling310 on 02/07/2008 15:01:56
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:14:45
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:14:45
Morning :hug:
Why am I so not surprised by the news in the opening post
Why am I so not surprised by the news in the opening post
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:28:59
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:28:59
I heard about this pet story - it's so sad.
Comment by 
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:30:47
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:30:47
:coffee: Good Morning!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:33:02
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:33:02
Heyya Raine
Comment by m-hadley on 02/07/2008 15:34:57
Raine & BobR,
I added a link to Raine's powerful post the sidebar of my blog . Excellent work, grrrrl.
VJ, I hope I didn't piss you off too much - that was not my intention. Sorry if I did.
m-hadley on 02/07/2008 15:34:57
Quote by BobR:Quote by shelaghc: Raine, may I post a link to this blog entry from my blog and possibly a community on Livejournal?
The more people see it and are outraged, the better the chances that someone who can do something will see it.
Raine will be asleep for a while (note the time she posted it), but I can guarantee you she would like as many people as possible to see this.
Raine & BobR,
I added a link to Raine's powerful post the sidebar of my blog . Excellent work, grrrrl.
VJ, I hope I didn't piss you off too much - that was not my intention. Sorry if I did.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 15:35:34
Thanks Bob. I just posted a link on my own LJ, and in two LJ communities and sent a link to C&L.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 15:35:34
Quote by BobR:Quote by shelaghc: Raine, may I post a link to this blog entry from my blog and possibly a community on Livejournal?
The more people see it and are outraged, the better the chances that someone who can do something will see it.
Raine will be asleep for a while (note the time she posted it), but I can guarantee you she would like as many people as possible to see this.
Thanks Bob. I just posted a link on my own LJ, and in two LJ communities and sent a link to C&L.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 15:36:31
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:36:31
:ireland:, and everyone else, Please feel free to cross post this wherever you want.
Comment by 
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:38:49
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:38:49
Good morning all. 
I got home on time but still went to bed too late.
Between this and the secret trial of the protestors, it is really scary how some judges are giving in to Halliburton. Both examples are the perfect model of fascism when government and big business are in cahoots.
If we could reputation on the blog, this would be a +1000.
I got home on time but still went to bed too late.
Between this and the secret trial of the protestors, it is really scary how some judges are giving in to Halliburton. Both examples are the perfect model of fascism when government and big business are in cahoots.
If we could reputation on the blog, this would be a +1000.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 15:39:24
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:39:24
The tragedy... oh the million dollar tragedy!! 
won't someone please think of the mansion owners???
won't someone please think of the mansion owners???
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:42:16
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:42:16
BTW, folks, now that we are all up we need to discuss the DC trip. Which weekend are we shooting for and other stuff? I also have to get my vacation request in so I need a date soon.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 15:42:39
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:42:39
WEll liv, we CAN reputate the blogs that is why we added the digg and the flaven! :peace:
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:43:15
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:43:15
Eddie Vedder campaigned for Nader in 2000 so he's the more radical of the group.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:43:50
I guess I should set up a digg account.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:43:50
Quote by Raine: WEll liv, we CAN reputate the blogs that is why we added the digg and the flaven! :peace:
I guess I should set up a digg account.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 15:54:02
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:54:02
How does the weekend of the 4-6th sound? BobR is on the phone, but once he is off I would like to have his input as well.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:56:35
livingonli on 02/07/2008 15:56:35
Weekend of the 4th would be good. I could go either weekend though. So, if everyone else is good, I'm good.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 15:57:14
Raine on 02/07/2008 15:57:14
Some Senior Clinton staffers are working without pay?!?!
This is a tiny blurb at Time Magazine:
Source says they have “voluntarily chosen to work without pay this month” as part of Clinton cash crush against Obama moola factory.
Includes campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle.
This is a tiny blurb at Time Magazine:
Source says they have “voluntarily chosen to work without pay this month” as part of Clinton cash crush against Obama moola factory.
Includes campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:57:18
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:57:18
Think the progression would be he's gone from teacup poodle to a sheltie next step st. bernard :p
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:57:53
is this may or april?
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 15:57:53
Quote by Raine: How does the weekend of the 4-6th sound? BobR is on the phone, but once he is off I would like to have his input as well.
is this may or april?
Comment by TriSec on 02/07/2008 15:58:37
TriSec on 02/07/2008 15:58:37
I just cross-posted over at UNN...
And wasn't 9ui11ani's staffers going without pay the begging of the end for him?
And wasn't 9ui11ani's staffers going without pay the begging of the end for him?
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:00:57
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:00:57
A certain Bloggers Birthday is the #rd so it could be a party 
!
!
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:01:48
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:01:48
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: How does the weekend of the 4-6th sound? BobR is on the phone, but once he is off I would like to have his input as well.
is this may or april?
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Comment by TriSec on 02/07/2008 16:02:37
TriSec on 02/07/2008 16:02:37
Oh, and it sure is interesting sitting up in bed surfing aimlessly through...
Fox Noise has been exclusively covering the SWAT standoff in LA as if nothing else was going on today...
Fox Noise has been exclusively covering the SWAT standoff in LA as if nothing else was going on today...
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:03:46
My birthday is March 21st, first day of spring.
I alos requested that day off since I am off the two days after (that weekend).
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:03:46
Quote by Raine: A certain Bloggers Birthday is the #rd so it could be a party
My birthday is March 21st, first day of spring.
I alos requested that day off since I am off the two days after (that weekend).
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:08:52
Hmm- that's the weekend after the long weekend in Clearwater - not sure how kosher it would be with the roommate (ie mom) if I was gone for 2 weekends in a row. But if more people can come then I'll work it out. The parade is on the 12th though.
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:08:52
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: How does the weekend of the 4-6th sound? BobR is on the phone, but once he is off I would like to have his input as well.
is this may or april?
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Hmm- that's the weekend after the long weekend in Clearwater - not sure how kosher it would be with the roommate (ie mom) if I was gone for 2 weekends in a row. But if more people can come then I'll work it out. The parade is on the 12th though.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:09:33
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:09:33
I'm planning/hoping to go, but there will be a *lot* of factors involved for me.
If I'm working, I won't be able to leave, almost certainly, until after work hours. If I'm not working, I'd be able to leave earlier, but if I haven't been working, I might not be able to afford to do much.
I really hate money and jobs.....
If I'm working, I won't be able to leave, almost certainly, until after work hours. If I'm not working, I'd be able to leave earlier, but if I haven't been working, I might not be able to afford to do much.
I really hate money and jobs.....
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:10:46
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:10:46
I see many many posts about pets on Craiglist becuase people have no way to tak the pets with them. It is very sad.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:11:40
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:11:40
I'm in a position where I couldn't afford to be without a job but I do wish I had more money coming in since I am making less money than I did before my 2005 layoff.
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 16:14:33
Will that be a problem with hotel rooms?... Will they be less available and more expensive?
BobR on 02/07/2008 16:14:33
Quote by Raine:
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Will that be a problem with hotel rooms?... Will they be less available and more expensive?
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:15:17
Time to go check the travel websites.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:15:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Will that be a problem with hotel rooms?... Will they be less available and more expensive?
Time to go check the travel websites.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:17:07
It's one of the biggest draws in Washington - the place gets packed with tourist during the festival - I'm thinking it would be a bit more pricey.
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:17:07
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
April. Right in the middle of the festival... That is what I saw on the website.
Will that be a problem with hotel rooms?... Will they be less available and more expensive?
It's one of the biggest draws in Washington - the place gets packed with tourist during the festival - I'm thinking it would be a bit more pricey.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:18:33
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:18:33
What was the hotel we used last time?
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:24:59
The holiday inn.
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:24:59
Quote by wickedpam: What was the hotel we used last time?
The holiday inn.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:25:26
Holiday Inn Capitol Hill right?
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:25:26
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: What was the hotel we used last time?
The holiday inn.
Holiday Inn Capitol Hill right?
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:25:30
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:25:30
Good morning Mondo!
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:26:02
yes! that was the one!
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:26:02
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: What was the hotel we used last time?
The holiday inn.
Holiday Inn Capitol Hill right?
OMG!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:27:00
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:27:00
Hey Mondo!
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:28:20
well if you can't get there till late Friday or Saturday night, that is fine!
HEya Mala, if you see HBK , maybe we could see if she wants to come as well?
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:28:20
Quote by shelaghc: I'm planning/hoping to go, but there will be a *lot* of factors involved for me.
If I'm working, I won't be able to leave, almost certainly, until after work hours. If I'm not working, I'd be able to leave earlier, but if I haven't been working, I might not be able to afford to do much.
I really hate money and jobs.....
HEya Mala, if you see HBK , maybe we could see if she wants to come as well?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:30:09
Okay that weekend - according to travelocity at that hotel - $180 a night
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:30:09
Quote by Raine:yes! that was the one!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: What was the hotel we used last time?
The holiday inn.
Holiday Inn Capitol Hill right?
Okay that weekend - according to travelocity at that hotel - $180 a night
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:30:29
Yes that was.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:30:29
Quote by Raine:yes! that was the one!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: What was the hotel we used last time?
The holiday inn.
Holiday Inn Capitol Hill right?
Yes that was.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:30:58
Haven't seen her recently but I will keep an eye out!
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:30:58
Quote by Raine:well if you can't get there till late Friday or Saturday night, that is fine!Quote by shelaghc: I'm planning/hoping to go, but there will be a *lot* of factors involved for me.
If I'm working, I won't be able to leave, almost certainly, until after work hours. If I'm not working, I'd be able to leave earlier, but if I haven't been working, I might not be able to afford to do much.
I really hate money and jobs.....
HEya Mala, if you see HBK , maybe we could see if she wants to come as well?
Haven't seen her recently but I will keep an eye out!
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:32:08
Ummmm.......
Will we be sharing rooms at that rate?
If it helps at all, I'm a member of AARP. We get great discounts.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:32:08
Quote by wickedpam: Okay that weekend - according to travelocity at that hotel - $180 a night
Ummmm.......
Will we be sharing rooms at that rate?
If it helps at all, I'm a member of AARP. We get great discounts.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:33:22
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:33:22
OOOH. That is a lot of money!
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:36:03
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:36:03
I got $179 on Orbitz. The other Holdiay Inn in DC is $171 a night.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:36:46
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:36:46
I was looking to see if there was anything in Alexandria near the metro or anything cheaper in a good section of town.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:37:05
Try seeing if they'll give an AARP rate.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:37:05
Quote by livingonli: I got $179 on Orbitz. The other Holdiay Inn in DC is $171 a night.
Try seeing if they'll give an AARP rate.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:38:14
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:38:14
There was a nice place that we stayed at in Alexandria near the pentagon... BobR might remember that one.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:39:25
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:39:25
The following weekend the Capitol goest to $199 and the other Holdiay Inn goes to $225 a night.
Looking on Orbitz a lot of the hotels in Washington, DC are pretty pricey.
Looking on Orbitz a lot of the hotels in Washington, DC are pretty pricey.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:39:42
MY bad, it was ARLINGTON, and it was the Sheraton, right near the cemetary and the PEntagon.
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:39:42
Quote by Raine: There was a nice place that we stayed at in Alexandria near the pentagon... BobR might remember that one.
MY bad, it was ARLINGTON, and it was the Sheraton, right near the cemetary and the PEntagon.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:42:29
Do you have an address or even a street name? I'm checking the AARP website right now.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:42:29
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine: There was a nice place that we stayed at in Alexandria near the pentagon... BobR might remember that one.
MY bad, it was ARLINGTON, and it was the Sheraton, right near the cemetary and the PEntagon.
Do you have an address or even a street name? I'm checking the AARP website right now.
Comment by TriSec on 02/07/2008 16:44:42
TriSec on 02/07/2008 16:44:42
Hey, I know we can't go, but try looking near Key Bridge/Rosslyn, VA. There's a nice concentration of hotels there with pools, and it's steps from the metro.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:45:01
It's parade weekend.
Hmmmm - maybe we want to wait till later in the spring? Are any rates going down?
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:45:01
Quote by livingonli: The following weekend the Capitol goest to $199 and the other Holdiay Inn goes to $225 a night.
Looking on Orbitz a lot of the hotels in Washington, DC are pretty pricey.
It's parade weekend.
Hmmmm - maybe we want to wait till later in the spring? Are any rates going down?
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:45:21
This was the palce!
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=829
Sheraton National Hotel
900 South Orme Street · Arlington, Virginia 22204 · United States
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:45:21
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine: There was a nice place that we stayed at in Alexandria near the pentagon... BobR might remember that one.
MY bad, it was ARLINGTON, and it was the Sheraton, right near the cemetary and the PEntagon.
Do you have an address or even a street name? I'm checking the AARP website right now.
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=829
Sheraton National Hotel
900 South Orme Street · Arlington, Virginia 22204 · United States
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:47:10
I was looking at the Embassy Suites across from the metro in Alex - its in the same price range.
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:47:10
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine: There was a nice place that we stayed at in Alexandria near the pentagon... BobR might remember that one.
MY bad, it was ARLINGTON, and it was the Sheraton, right near the cemetary and the PEntagon.
I was looking at the Embassy Suites across from the metro in Alex - its in the same price range.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:47:26
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:47:26
FYI - I got the following when I did a search on Sheraton in the DC area:
DC Northern Virginia-Dulles
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Sheraton Rockville Hotel
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Sheraton Baltimore Washington Airport Hotel - BWI
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Four Points by Sheraton BWI Airport
$94 avg. per night
Traditional Room with King Bed
Sheraton National
$107 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds
Sheraton Suites Old Town Alexandria
$114 avg. per night
Suite with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Sheraton Crystal City Hotel
$116 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds
There are more that go a lot higher, but that's a sampling.
DC Northern Virginia-Dulles
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Sheraton Rockville Hotel
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Sheraton Baltimore Washington Airport Hotel - BWI
$89 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed
Four Points by Sheraton BWI Airport
$94 avg. per night
Traditional Room with King Bed
Sheraton National
$107 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds
Sheraton Suites Old Town Alexandria
$114 avg. per night
Suite with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Sheraton Crystal City Hotel
$116 avg. per night
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds
There are more that go a lot higher, but that's a sampling.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:48:11
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:48:11
The first weekend in May works for us. The weather should be nicer too.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:49:55
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:49:55
What I would Idealy like is for us to try a meetup earlier in the month, what ever month it may be. This is why I am suggesting the first weekends... Just helps figuring out the bills and the flaven.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:51:20
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:51:20
AAA had another Holdiay Inn in DC for $154 a night still a little pricey.
I think I only paid $110 a night for the Holiday Inn-Capitol when we got together last tiem. In '05 I stayed in Arlington. My hotel was blocks from the Metro and there were a few eating places nearby.
I think I only paid $110 a night for the Holiday Inn-Capitol when we got together last tiem. In '05 I stayed in Arlington. My hotel was blocks from the Metro and there were a few eating places nearby.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:51:49
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:51:49
May is fine for me - it's still spring so the city still looks pretty and less tourists.
Also thinking if we stayed outside the city and metro'd in during the day we could save some cash.
Also thinking if we stayed outside the city and metro'd in during the day we could save some cash.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:53:16
Here's the AARP rate for that hotel from April 4th until the 6th:
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds $107.09
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed $107.09
Club Floor Room with 2 Double Beds $134.09
Living Room Suite with 1 King Bed $152.09
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:53:16
Quote by Raine: This was the palce!
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=829
Sheraton National Hotel
900 South Orme Street · Arlington, Virginia 22204 · United States
Here's the AARP rate for that hotel from April 4th until the 6th:
Traditional Room with 2 Double Beds $107.09
Traditional Room with 1 King Bed $107.09
Club Floor Room with 2 Double Beds $134.09
Living Room Suite with 1 King Bed $152.09
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:53:22
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:53:22
I would love to stay in Arlington Again.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:55:42
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 16:55:42
I'm not sure if I can do May. There's an event I attend every year over Memorial Day weekend and I don't know if I can go to two events in one month.
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 16:55:52
BobR on 02/07/2008 16:55:52
Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:56:45
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 16:56:45
Only stayed in Arlington once - not fond of driving in that area one wrong turn and I'm over the bridge and into DC - eek!
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:57:28
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:57:28
I'll look at Arlington. For the weekend of May 2nd, the hotels in DC are very expensive (Don't know what's going on then) but they are a little better for the 9th (but that may be an issue because of Mother's Day).
The weekend of April 4th may still work if we stay in VA or maybe May 2nd.
The weekend of April 4th may still work if we stay in VA or maybe May 2nd.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 16:57:30
Raine on 02/07/2008 16:57:30
ok, so what about the last weekend in april? I am pretty flexible.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:58:32
I stayed right off US 50 which has those express lines when you drive through that area after crossing over from DC.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 16:58:32
Quote by wickedpam: Only stayed in Arlington once - not fond of driving in that area one wrong turn and I'm over the bridge and into DC - eek!
I stayed right off US 50 which has those express lines when you drive through that area after crossing over from DC.
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 16:59:36
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
BobR on 02/07/2008 16:59:36
Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:04:38
AARP has a special rate for the Alexandria Sheraton but it has to be booked in advance.
Room Types
Suite with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15% $113.98
Club Floor Room with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Non Smoking $152.09
Suite with 2 Double Beds and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15%
$332.08
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:04:38
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
AARP has a special rate for the Alexandria Sheraton but it has to be booked in advance.
Room Types
Suite with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15% $113.98
Club Floor Room with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Non Smoking $152.09
Suite with 2 Double Beds and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15%
$332.08
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:06:08
There are three in Alexandria
One on Eisenhower - too off the beaten path
One on Diagonal Road - there's a Embassy Suites that's nice across the street think that was $165 a night
One on King Street - there's a Hampton Inn I was looking at too
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:06:08
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
There are three in Alexandria
One on Eisenhower - too off the beaten path
One on Diagonal Road - there's a Embassy Suites that's nice across the street think that was $165 a night
One on King Street - there's a Hampton Inn I was looking at too
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:06:27
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:06:27
I have a headache! 
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:06:44
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:06:44
shelagh would you be able to get the AARP rates for eveyrone?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:07:50
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:07:50
Take that back the Embassy Suites was 190
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:08:29
I should be able to, but I should probably call to make sure.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:08:29
Quote by wickedpam: shelagh would you be able to get the AARP rates for eveyrone?
I should be able to, but I should probably call to make sure.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:09:04
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:09:04
The hampton in looks fine to me. The pool is outdoor, so it may not be open, but I loved alexandria. We can metro from there right?
I would say either the Sheraton in Arlington which has a metro right in front, or the Hampton inn.
Bob and I would most likely share a room... :P
I would say either the Sheraton in Arlington which has a metro right in front, or the Hampton inn.
Bob and I would most likely share a room... :P
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:09:58
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:09:58
Just tell us where and when and we will be there!
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:10:14
FYI - I said booked in advance. I meant paid in advance.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:10:14
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
AARP has a special rate for the Alexandria Sheraton but it has to be booked in advance.
Room Types
Suite with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15% $113.98
Club Floor Room with 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Non Smoking $152.09
Suite with 2 Double Beds and 1 Double Sofa Bed Non Smoking Non Refundable
Book now and save 15%
$332.08
FYI - I said booked in advance. I meant paid in advance.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:11:27
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:11:27
OH! and the hampton in is right near Murphy's Irish Pub! I loved that place!!!
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:13:43
The Hampton in Alexandria is showing at AARP at $169 a night. They don't give a discount.
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:13:43
Quote by Raine: OH! and the hampton in is right near Murphy's Irish Pub! I loved that place!!!
The Hampton in Alexandria is showing at AARP at $169 a night. They don't give a discount.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:16:43
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:16:43
OOfda to the paid in advance. I don't think we can do that. 
(btw, alexandria I just realized does not have access to the metro... I am sorry. )
(btw, alexandria I just realized does not have access to the metro... I am sorry. )
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:17:46
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:17:46
This was for Which weekend again? You know we can do this also as a saturday Sunday thing... we don't NEED to do 2 nights.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:21:05
I saw the one in Eisenhower for $105 a night through AAA. It's supposedly near a Metro station.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:21:05
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
There are three in Alexandria
One on Eisenhower - too off the beaten path
One on Diagonal Road - there's a Embassy Suites that's nice across the street think that was $165 a night
One on King Street - there's a Hampton Inn I was looking at too
I saw the one in Eisenhower for $105 a night through AAA. It's supposedly near a Metro station.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:22:19
Wouldn't that be hard on everyone traveling?
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:22:19
Quote by Raine: This was for Which weekend again? You know we can do this also as a saturday Sunday thing... we don't NEED to do 2 nights.
Wouldn't that be hard on everyone traveling?
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:23:20
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:23:20
Thom just said that He is hearing the rumour that Mitt will be dropping out today.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:24:53
There are a couple of hotels on Eisenhower, it's out of the way of all the restaurants and sites though.
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:24:53
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Actually, if there's a metro station in Arlington, it's a lovely little city with nice bars and good food.
OOPS!
I meant Alexandria!
There are three in Alexandria
One on Eisenhower - too off the beaten path
One on Diagonal Road - there's a Embassy Suites that's nice across the street think that was $165 a night
One on King Street - there's a Hampton Inn I was looking at too
I saw the one in Eisenhower for $105 a night through AAA. It's supposedly near a Metro station.
There are a couple of hotels on Eisenhower, it's out of the way of all the restaurants and sites though.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:26:10
Factoring the travel time, we would only really have an evening together. A Friday-Sunday affair at least gives us all day Saturday to hang out. I would have to leave really early on Saturday morning to make a two-day affair worthwhile.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:26:10
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: This was for Which weekend again? You know we can do this also as a saturday Sunday thing... we don't NEED to do 2 nights.
Wouldn't that be hard on everyone traveling?
Factoring the travel time, we would only really have an evening together. A Friday-Sunday affair at least gives us all day Saturday to hang out. I would have to leave really early on Saturday morning to make a two-day affair worthwhile.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:26:20
probably, your right, it's just that we seem to be spitting ahirs --understandably -- over money.. I would prefer 2 nights myself.
I would also prefer to stay nearer to being in town. I guess that means inside the beltway, right?
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:26:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: This was for Which weekend again? You know we can do this also as a saturday Sunday thing... we don't NEED to do 2 nights.
Wouldn't that be hard on everyone traveling?
I would also prefer to stay nearer to being in town. I guess that means inside the beltway, right?
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:27:33
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:27:33
Are Velveeta, Mondo, and Star still considering joining us?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:28:48
Saddly everything is more expensive inside the beltway. Too bad we only have the VRE in Manassas or I would suggest everyone stay out my way
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:28:48
Quote by Raine:probably, your right, it's just that we seem to be spitting ahirs --understandably -- over money.. I would prefer 2 nights myself.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: This was for Which weekend again? You know we can do this also as a saturday Sunday thing... we don't NEED to do 2 nights.
Wouldn't that be hard on everyone traveling?
I would also prefer to stay nearer to being in town. I guess that means inside the beltway, right?
Saddly everything is more expensive inside the beltway. Too bad we only have the VRE in Manassas or I would suggest everyone stay out my way
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:29:35
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:29:35
We definitely would have to stay inside the Beltway so if the city is too expensive, at least we could take the Metro in from the suburbs.
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 17:30:47
BobR on 02/07/2008 17:30:47
I would prefer to stay someplace that's walking distance to bars/restaurants, and accessible to the metro.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:30:49
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:30:49
CNN is also saying according to 3 GOP sources that Mitt will be dropping out.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:31:38
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:31:38
If you all want me to check for AARP rates, just let me know the dates and approximate location. Personally, I think I'd prefer the two night thing, but I'll go along, as they say.
Once things are more firm, I can find out how it'll all work on AARP. Most place are fairly flexible with discounts so I don't expect we'd have a problem "sharing" the rate.
Once things are more firm, I can find out how it'll all work on AARP. Most place are fairly flexible with discounts so I don't expect we'd have a problem "sharing" the rate.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:31:38
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:31:38
Actually it will be "suspending" his campaign I guess a la John Edwards.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:32:14
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:32:14
I'm wondering if Fall gave us the best pricing....:kickcan:
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:32:19
Bye bye Mittens!
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:32:19
Quote by livingonli: CNN is also saying according to 3 GOP sources that Mitt will be dropping out.
Bye bye Mittens!
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:32:57
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:32:57
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:35:21
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:35:21
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:35:50
and some of those rooms have 2 double beds so that does help on costs of people share a room.
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:35:50
Quote by Raine: For the weekend of the 25 of april-27 at the sheraton.
it's 119.00 a night for a room.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:38:04
That looks nice.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 17:38:04
Quote by Raine: For the weekend of the 25 of april-27 at the sheraton.
it's 119.00 a night for a room.
That looks nice.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:38:38
I got $107 via AARP:
Sheraton National
shelaghc on 02/07/2008 17:38:38
Quote by Raine: For the weekend of the 25 of april-27 at the sheraton.
it's 119.00 a night for a room.
I got $107 via AARP:
Sheraton National
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:45:22
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 17:45:22
now my head hurts 
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:49:15
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:49:15
I have been to this sheraton... I think it is actually nicer than the Holiday inn.
Close to the metro and it has an indoor pool.
Close to the metro and it has an indoor pool.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 17:52:03
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 17:52:03
Afternoon all. Finally, started my biz taxes. Actually have quite a ways to go, but at least I've printed the form.
I have been called up by the RC disaster relief to go to the mid-west. Don't know where they will send me or exactly when, but I am packed and ready to go.
I have been called up by the RC disaster relief to go to the mid-west. Don't know where they will send me or exactly when, but I am packed and ready to go.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 17:53:50
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 17:53:50
btw: my wife loved your blog Rainey! She is "aunt azalea" over yonder at digg. (Don't think she's ever read mine).
Harrumph.
Harrumph.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 17:58:51
That is a pretty great deal.
I have to head out for a bit.
Keep us updated! ::: tylenol for everyone :::
Raine on 02/07/2008 17:58:51
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: For the weekend of the 25 of april-27 at the sheraton.
it's 119.00 a night for a room.
I got $107 via AARP:
Sheraton National
I have to head out for a bit.
Keep us updated! ::: tylenol for everyone :::
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 18:08:40
Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 18:08:40
I don't need no stinkin tylenol!
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 18:12:08
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 18:12:08
Thom with the tooly guests... 
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 18:12:30
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 18:12:30
documentarys don't have casts do they?
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 18:41:12
I can't listen to any more right-wing wackos. Gary Aldrich wrothe the book saying that the Clintons put condom ornaments on the White House Christmas tree. 
livingonli on 02/07/2008 18:41:12
Quote by wickedpam: Thom with the tooly guests...
I can't listen to any more right-wing wackos. Gary Aldrich wrothe the book saying that the Clintons put condom ornaments on the White House Christmas tree.
Comment by m-hadley on 02/07/2008 19:26:56
m-hadley on 02/07/2008 19:26:56
Ugh, David Horror-witz - I think I gotta turn off Thom 
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 19:33:21
Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 19:33:21
Hey Jack Black as Matt Ponselett's brother in "Dead Man Walking"
Comment by starling310 on 02/07/2008 19:37:59
I would love to. It depends on the weekend that y'all pick.
I've got shows a lot of the time on weekends.
starling310 on 02/07/2008 19:37:59
Quote by livingonli: Are Velveeta, Mondo, and Star still considering joining us?
I would love to. It depends on the weekend that y'all pick.
I've got shows a lot of the time on weekends.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 20:01:15
Raine on 02/07/2008 20:01:15
Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 20:07:02
At this point, it may be the costs of the hotels that will make the decision for us.
Oh, well, back to the salt mine.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 20:07:02
Quote by Raine: Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
At this point, it may be the costs of the hotels that will make the decision for us.
Oh, well, back to the salt mine.
Comment by TriSec on 02/07/2008 20:10:50
TriSec on 02/07/2008 20:10:50
Passing through...WCVB (Boston) reported Mitt is definitely out, or whatever "suspended" means.
And the shuttle just got off...(did anyone even know there was a launch today?)
The new NASA feed is pretty slick, and Faux Noise covered the whole thing pretty much without commentary from T-30 all the way up to the Main Tank separation...
And the shuttle just got off...(did anyone even know there was a launch today?)
The new NASA feed is pretty slick, and Faux Noise covered the whole thing pretty much without commentary from T-30 all the way up to the Main Tank separation...
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 20:22:48
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 20:22:48
BTW: Raine, I think you should have named your blog "All Your Vagina are belong to us" from the game. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Okay.............. enough annoying ya'll. Back to packing. (Actually, I haven't started).
Okay.............. enough annoying ya'll. Back to packing. (Actually, I haven't started).
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 20:37:45
Huh?
Step 1: unwrap phone from plasic steel-like packaging.
Step 2: If unable, use chain saw to unwrap packaging.
Step 3: Turn phone on.
Step 4: Go to bathroom and drop phone into toilet bowl. Since thats were it will eventually end up.
Step 5: Tell your friends you dropped it in a puddle outside. No, it was not the toilet bowl.
Step 6: Purchase new phone.
:lol:
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 20:37:45
Quote by Raine: Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
Huh?
Step 1: unwrap phone from plasic steel-like packaging.
Step 2: If unable, use chain saw to unwrap packaging.
Step 3: Turn phone on.
Step 4: Go to bathroom and drop phone into toilet bowl. Since thats were it will eventually end up.
Step 5: Tell your friends you dropped it in a puddle outside. No, it was not the toilet bowl.
Step 6: Purchase new phone.
:lol:
Comment by 
Blog on 02/07/2008 20:42:09
I nearly did!!!
Blog on 02/07/2008 20:42:09
Quote by velveeta jones: BTW: Raine, I think you should have named your blog "All Your Vagina are belong to us" from the game. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 21:00:13
Raine on 02/07/2008 21:00:13
:yawn:
Comment by wickedpam on 02/07/2008 21:08:44
The dates thrown out there so far are
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 2-4
wickedpam on 02/07/2008 21:08:44
Quote by Raine: Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
The dates thrown out there so far are
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 2-4
Comment by Raine on 02/07/2008 21:15:35
Raine on 02/07/2008 21:15:35
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 21:29:53
:rofl:
livingonli on 02/07/2008 21:29:53
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine: Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
Huh?
Step 1: unwrap phone from plasic steel-like packaging.
Step 2: If unable, use chain saw to unwrap packaging.
Step 3: Turn phone on.
Step 4: Go to bathroom and drop phone into toilet bowl. Since thats were it will eventually end up.
Step 5: Tell your friends you dropped it in a puddle outside. No, it was not the toilet bowl.
Step 6: Purchase new phone.
:lol:
:rofl:
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 21:35:39
velveeta jones on 02/07/2008 21:35:39
Okay, I've thought about packing..................now.............. a nap. And well-deserved I'd say.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 22:10:07
livingonli on 02/07/2008 22:10:07
I wish I could take a nap. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 22:23:41
:rofl: :rofl:
Mondobubba on 02/07/2008 22:23:41
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine: Have we picked a weekend yet? I am still doing battles getting my new cell phone working...
Huh?
Step 1: unwrap phone from plasic steel-like packaging.
Step 2: If unable, use chain saw to unwrap packaging.
Step 3: Turn phone on.
Step 4: Go to bathroom and drop phone into toilet bowl. Since thats were it will eventually end up.
Step 5: Tell your friends you dropped it in a puddle outside. No, it was not the toilet bowl.
Step 6: Purchase new phone.
:lol:
:rofl: :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:13:07
livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:13:07
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2008 23:34:55
Are you talking about the Extended Stay place?? That's where homeless people and druggies live.
Yech.
It also does not seem to be in a desireable location.
The Sheraton mentioned previously was only 8 dollars more.
BobR on 02/07/2008 23:34:55
Are you talking about the Extended Stay place?? That's where homeless people and druggies live.
Yech.
It also does not seem to be in a desireable location.
The Sheraton mentioned previously was only 8 dollars more.
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:50:13
livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:50:13
Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:51:35
It didn't go to Courtyard Marriot. That's what I was looking at.
livingonli on 02/07/2008 23:51:35
Quote by BobR:
Are you talking about the Extended Stay place?? That's where homeless people and druggies live.
Yech.
It also does not seem to be in a desireable location.
The Sheraton mentioned previously was only 8 dollars more.
It didn't go to Courtyard Marriot. That's what I was looking at.
Comment by TriSec on 02/08/2008 02:03:22
TriSec on 02/08/2008 02:03:22
Evening.
I am now able to sit upright and take nourishment...
I am now able to sit upright and take nourishment...
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 02:07:59
livingonli on 02/08/2008 02:07:59
That's good. How's the temperature?
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:26:11
Sounds like Velveeta's kind of place!!! Count me in!!!!!
velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:26:11
Quote by BobR
Are you talking about the Extended Stay place?? That's where homeless people and druggies live.
Yech.
It also does not seem to be in a desireable location.
Sounds like Velveeta's kind of place!!! Count me in!!!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:28:02
velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:28:02
I have put my packing on hold. I now have a job interview in the AM (YAAAAAAY). So, I told the RC to put me on standby, but I won't leave until I see if I got me a job.
Comment by velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:45:18
Oh I am so glad. I have been worried about that high fever.
Perhaps my TriSec alter , complete with offerings is working?
velveeta jones on 02/08/2008 02:45:18
Quote by TriSec: Evening.
I am now able to sit upright and take nourishment...
Oh I am so glad. I have been worried about that high fever.
Perhaps my TriSec alter , complete with offerings is working?
Comment by TriSec on 02/08/2008 02:47:21
TriSec on 02/08/2008 02:47:21
Ah, feeling better now. It's not so much the fever, it's everything else that hurts.
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 03:04:27
livingonli on 02/08/2008 03:04:27
poor Tri. 
Comment by 
MMB on 02/08/2008 03:36:31
MMB on 02/08/2008 03:36:31
Sad but so real. Great post Raine Rape breaks your body your mind and will if you let it tear your soul right out of your very being. I don't know the answer to these horrible acts but I send every ounce of my being to these victims/survivors. Add these women to the list of cases of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome!!!! 
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/08/2008 03:57:43
Mondobubba on 02/08/2008 03:57:43
The scene the weekly SCA meeting, the players, myself a straight man, Mark a gay man.
Mark: (looking at the artists on my iPod) Are you sure you aren't gay? Nina Simone??
Me: Last time I checked, no.
And end scene!
Mark: (looking at the artists on my iPod) Are you sure you aren't gay? Nina Simone??
Me: Last time I checked, no.
And end scene!
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 04:44:43
livingonli on 02/08/2008 04:44:43
I think I found a hotel that could really be workable: Holiday Inn Rosslyn which is by the bridge to Georgetown. Two blocks from Subway and they have a shuttle bus to Georgetown. No matter which weekend (even April 11) it's only 84 bucks a night.
Comment by m-hadley on 02/08/2008 09:32:38
m-hadley on 02/08/2008 09:32:38
Bye bye, everybody, it was fun hangin' out with you for a short while...
i'm gonna check out for awhile...
:bow:
i'm gonna check out for awhile...
:bow: