Do not be surprised if this is only given the most cursory of looks and then brushed off as isolated incidents with no conspiratorial malfeasence.

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All these f*ckers that label Rev. Wright a "hate-monger" or "unpatriotic" need to say the saming fucking thing about Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, etc....

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Do not be surprised if this is only given the most cursory of looks and then brushed off as isolated incidents with no conspiratorial malfeasence.

We switched over to Faux News (BRIEFLY) and CNN to see how/whether they were covering it after hearing about it on KO during the 8:00 show. Nothing. We checked again at 9, and Hannity (gah) was taking this line exactly

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Good morning everyone.



So, is Ben Furguson a right-wing version of Comic Book Guy?



How do you feel about 45-year old virgins who still live at home with their parents?



Oh god over at the SMS board. The one Hillary defender has never heard of The Tuskegee Experiment even though Bill Clinton apologized for it. :Thud:



Well, anyhoo, today I am a year older and hopefully a year wiser as I reach my 41st Bithday.

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HEY! I can view that video?!? WTF? The work code monkeys must be slacking.



That is weird sh*t y'all!

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The Steph Live Blog can bite me.

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fwiw, I think this is a much nicer place because of the people!

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fwiw, I think this is a much nicer place because of the people!

Everybody knows your name.

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fwiw, I think this is a much nicer place because of the people!

Everybody knows your name.

But with :rofl:





(that reminds me of a topless bar here, the sign says "Just like cheers, but with Nude women")

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Not surprised ya'll missed Condi, she was on for about one nano-second, sitting in a plush cushy chair. Basically she said: "I met with Obama and told him that I would be upset if someone accessed my personal info".

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MOMMA! It isn't gotcha politics!



we have a link on the message board, you tell me if this one is tit ffor tat politics, especially when the Mother Jones article came out last september.

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Uh oh, ya'll, I am on standby with the ARC disaster relief.



Now, I won't be going anywhere while Mrs. VJ has the pnemonia crap, but if I do go in a week or so (they often need to replace workers that get burned out) then..........



............... I may not be able to go to DC! :shocked:



Stupid Global Warming...........:grumble:

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Oh, was that *my* Patrick Kennedy (son of Edward) or another one?

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:clap: FAYE!

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Uh oh, ya'll, I am on standby with the ARC disaster relief.



Now, I won't be going anywhere while Mrs. VJ has the pnemonia crap, but if I do go in a week or so (they often need to replace workers that get burned out) then..........



............... I may not be able to go to DC! :shocked:



Stupid Global Warming...........:grumble:

Oh, no!



I hope this works out. I and many others would love to see you there.

BTW, how does that affect your job when you go out on these missions?

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I thought the caller was Faye from Oakland not our Faye.

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The playwrights of the show I am in, are coming in from NYC tonight to see our performance.

Hey, anyone I might know? (Being that I worked in that biz for my entire adult life). PM me with show info if'n you feel comfortable doing that.

Are you velveeta jones on the forum too?

I can tell you right now, if'n you don't mind. Alaina McNair and Kate Wilkinson. . . the show is Fatal Attraction - A Greek Tragedy. It ran in NYC for a very brief run, starring Corey Feldman. Then I think it was produced 1 other time before us. One of their Moms came last week and must've reported back good things, because they are coming tonight.

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Mala, FYI, Duran Duran will be at Central Park on May 30th.

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Yes, as I recall, the off Broadway show was a complete dud! Even with the "name talent" of Corey Feldman.

:rofl:

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Yes, as I recall, the off Broadway show was a complete dud! Even with the "name talent" of Corey Feldman.

:rofl:

Maybe he should have teamed up with Corey Haim... :rofl:

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Now, THAT's our Faye!!! :hug:

Thanks for noticing, Star :D

:hug:

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Yes, as I recall, the off Broadway show was a complete dud! Even with the "name talent" of Corey Feldman.

:rofl:

Maybe he should have teamed up with Corey Haim... :rofl:

:star:ling's Friday morning Confession. ( It is Good Friday, after all )

I still love the movie Dream a Little Dream.



:: ducks :: :: waits for hurling of rotten tomatoes ::

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I had friends who were extras in that movie. They shot a ton of it at my high school

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Now, THAT's our Faye!!! :hug:

Thanks for noticing, Star :D

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:kickcan: THIS time I missed it!



I hope shane-O will get THAT one up for us!



The damn news took me away for a minute!

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Jesus...People are very RANDY today. Is it a full moon!?

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Jesus...People are very RANDY today. Is it a full moon!?

::: Joe Biden ::: yes.

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From the AP. WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tells Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton her passport file was breached in 2007.



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Tha t is it. this is BIG breaking news!

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From the AP. WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tells Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton her passport file was breached in 2007.



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Tha t is it. this is BIG breaking news!

Any official who was involved in this, or covered it up should be fired. If anyone from the Clinton campaign is involved in this or passed on information, then those involved need to be fired and face any appropriate legal charges. If the Clinton campaign is involved in this scandal, it may be a blow that may prove fatal to it.



So, if a U.S. Senator's private information is not safe, whose information is safe? I am sure Senator Obama will bring this up and it may hurt the Bush administration's claims that in protects privacy.

I think Condoleeza Rice is going to be grilled by the House and Senate soon.

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From the AP. WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tells Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton her passport file was breached in 2007.



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Tha t is it. this is BIG breaking news!

Damn!! Okay, I posted about this and here is what I wrote.

Any official who was involved in this, or covered it up should be fired. If anyone from the Clinton campaign is involved in this or passed on information, then those involved need to be fired and face any appropriate legal charges. If the Clinton campaign is involved in this scandal, it may be a blow that may prove fatal to it.



So, if a U.S. Senator's private information is not safe, whose information is safe? I am sure Senator Obama will bring this up and it may hurt the Bush administration's claims that in protects privacy.

I think Condoleeza Rice is going to be grilled by the House and Senate soon.

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Now they are saying that the State department ALSO looked at JOHN McCAIN files!!!

...MSNBC is reporting this... I am looking for a link.

I don't understand why they are looking at ANY's passport files. Plus I'm thinking that the Clinton, McCain announcements at trying to cover up the Obama one....

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Now they are saying that the State department ALSO looked at JOHN McCAIN files!!!

...MSNBC is reporting this... I am looking for a link.

I don't understand why they are looking at ANY's passport files. Plus I'm thinking that the Clinton, McCain announcements at trying to cover up the Obama one....

Well, this actually makes it worse for the State Department. I could see people in the State Department prying into records and giving information to friends and political allies.



Expect the House and the Senate to be up in arms over this.

VIDEO - Passport files of all major candidates breached

Records of Clinton, McCain, Obama inappropriately accessed, officials say



BREAKING NEWS

NBC News and news services

updated 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON - The passport files of the three major presidential candidates have all been breached, officials said Friday.



Just hours after firing two contract employees and disciplining a third for inappropriately examining the passport file of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that her passport file was also breached in 2007.



NBC News also learned Friday that Sen. John McCain, the Republican candidate for president, had his file breached — this time by one of the same individuals who had examined Obama's records.



The episodes have raised questions as to whether the actions by the Bush administration were politically motivated.



In a statement from her Senate office, Clinton said she had been contacted by Rice. The State Department plans to brief Clinton's staff Friday about the unauthorized breach.

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I have been waiting for a statement...



This is criminal,,, BobR was indeed right in his blog today, it smells of Nixon

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here ya go, coming to a theatre near you this summer: Lost Boys 2: The Tribe

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Liv, you still here? Would it be alright if I moved that Rush story to it own topic?

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18 geek-centric movies for this summer...

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18 geek-centric movies for this summer...

So which movie are you waiting with geekish abandon, Bobber? Me, it has to be "Dark Knight"

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18 geek-centric movies for this summer...

So which movie are you waiting with geekish abandon, Bobber? Me, it has to be "Dark Knight"

Congress gets involved in passport breaches - [size=85]The Hill[/size]



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Posted: 03/21/08 01:09 PM [ET]

The revelation that the passport files of all three of the leading presidential candidates have been breached is prompting Congress to consider whether to examine the State Department’s oversight of sensitive personal information, according to congressional aides.



The State Department has promised a full investigation into the breaches of the passport files for Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) and the presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).





The House Foreign Affairs Committee plans to initiate an investigation into the security breaches, the panel announced Friday.



The department went into damage-control mode Friday, holding staff briefings with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and with the Senate offices affected by the breach. The embarrassing revelation also prompted an apology by Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of State, to Obama and Clinton.

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OK, They, on MSNBC, are saying (doing some actual reporting) that the cliton campaign breach was an accident since it happened during a training session...

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I loved Get Smart the TV show (why doesn't TV Land run it anymore?), but I have been leery of any film based on an old TV show the track record hasn't been good.

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Love the new audicons. I definitely can put those to use.

Hopefully won't kick my ass over a few of them. There is some contraband there...

Shane, I do not think he would. He has been a good friend to this blog.





I want to continue to be a good friend to the SMS blog as a result.



And when I say *I*, I don't mean everyone. I mean me. Chris is out there promoting the SMS thing, and he has ALWAYS been willing to promote us. Sides should not be taken when we are ALL together!



Mutuality is a very good thing, ya know?

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Will Rush Limbaugh be indicted for voter fraud?

Peter B Collins just mentioned this story!!!

Obama Camp Memo on Clinton “Misleading” Voters



TO: Interested Parties

FR: Obama Campaign

RE: A history of misleading voters

DA: March 20, 2008

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Senator Clinton likes to claim that she’s been vetted. But there is a salient theme emerging that has not been examined at all in this race: Senator Clinton has consistently made political calculations to deliberately mislead the American people and the voters have noticed. A new Gallup poll shows a staggering figure: far fewer Americans think Clinton is trustworthy than think she isn’t, by a margin 44-53 percent. And in the exit polling from the most recent primary, Clinton was viewed as honest and trustworthy by only 52 percent of Democratic voters.



For too long, the media has failed to live up to its historic obligation of holding candidates accountable for their contradictions on the campaign trail, and it’s time that Senator Clinton be questioned aggressively about this pattern of misleading voters.



A general election liability



Honesty is a crucial metric in this race because the Democratic nominee is going to be running against John McCain, who is viewed by voters as one of the most trustworthy politicians in America. In the same Gallup poll, McCain scored 67-27 on honesty (with Obama’s honesty rating at 63-29). After eight years of an untrustworthy President, can we really expect that a candidate who is viewed as so much more dishonest than McCain will somehow be able to beat him?



A history of misleading voters



Senator Clinton’s newly released White House schedules—showing a lack of candor on her NAFTA Record, her role in passing FMLA, and her role in key foreign policy decisions—are just the latest in what has become a legacy of misleading voters. On issue after issue, Clinton says one thing while her record says another.



Her Iraq vote. Clinton says she voted for diplomacy, while on the Senate floor at the time she said she was casting a “vote that might lead to war” and doing it “with conviction.”



Foreign Policy Experience. Clinton claims that she’s been “tested” on foreign policy and that she’s experienced in handling foreign crises. But her White House records show that she was consistently absent when critical decisions were being made, and that her trips abroad were largely ceremonial.



The Michigan and Florida primaries. Back when it suited her political purposes she said the Michigan primary “didn’t count for anything” and that she wasn’t leaving her name on the ballot to try to legitimize the results. But now that she desperately needs more votes, she’s doing just that. And despite her pledge not campaign in either state, she held two campaign events in Florida.



Fully vetted. Clinton openly tells voters that she’s been fully “vetted,” choosing to obscure from them the fact that she won’t release her tax returns, earmark requests, or the donors to the Clinton library.



Her position on NAFTA. Clinton tells Ohio voters that she has “been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning.” Yet her own schedules show that as First Lady she attended at least four meetings to advocate for its original passage.



Her role in passing the Family and Medical Leave Act. Clinton credits herself with “helping to pass” the Family and Medical Leave Act as First Lady. But the 11,000 pages of schedules don’t contain a single mention of her involvement in the issue.



Obama’s religion. In a “60 Minutes” interview, Senator Clinton refused to confirm that Senator Obama is a Christian, even though she knows the facts.



Reverend Wright. Even though it has been reported yesterday that Clinton is pushing Senator Obama’s association with Reverend Wright in attempt to rattle superdelegates, Clinton refused to give a straight answer. She would only say that their campaign “has been making the case that I am the most electable” before shrugging and prompting the next question.



35 Years in Public Service. The oft-repeated Clinton claim that she has 35 years of public service experience is simply false. Fifteen of those years were spent at a law practice.



Lingering questions



It’s time for Hillary Clinton to explain these inconsistencies—and to put an end to the dishonesty. As she campaigns in working-class areas of Pennsylvania, will she finally admit to workers that she was one of the chief proponents of NAFTA? Will she admit to even a basic understanding of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002? Will she drop FMLA from her list of accomplishments?



And if she won’t, will the press call her on it?



IRAQ?



Washington Post Fact Checker Debunks Clinton Claim That She Voted Against Limiting The President’s Authority To Attack Iraq Because She Didn’t Want To Give The U.N. Veto Authority. Clinton, on why she voted against three other important votes during that time period to limit the President’s authority to attack Iraq said “Well, I also voted, Tim, to limit the president’s authority to a year. That was another one of Senator Byrd’s amendments which I strongly supported. It was not successful. I have seen, obviously now, what has occurred by this president’s use of the authority that he was given, and I regret the way that he used authority. But I think it’s important to recognize that the United Nations is a very important tool in international diplomacy, in peacekeeping to bring the world together. But I do not want to give the United Nations a veto over actions taken by any president.” Washington Post fact checker: “There are arguments on both sides about whether the Levin amendment ceded authority to the United Nations. But Clinton is also going too far when she claims that passage of the amendment would have had the effect of subordinating ‘whatever our judgment might be going forward to the United Nations Security Council.’ There was always an escape clause.” <“Meet the Press,” 9/23/07 ; Washington Post, 2/1/08 >



FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT?



There Are No Mentions Of The Family And Medical Leave Act On Clinton’s Schedule Before Bill Signing It Into Law Even Though She Gives Herself Credit For “Helping To Pass” The Bill. “One notable absence in the 11,000 pages of the former First Lady’s schedule from the National Archives released today — any mention on her schedules of the Family and Medical Leave Act before her husband signed the bill into law. That’s interesting, because in speeches and on her website, the Clinton campaign repeatedly gives Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, credit for “helping to pass” the Family and Medical Leave Act.” http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/family-... > >



NAFTA?



Clinton Claimed That She Was A Critic Of NAFTA From The Beginning, But Clinton’s Schedules Show That On NAFTA She “Promoted Its Passage” And She Supported NAFTA In 2003. “Clinton now argues that the North American Free Trade Agreement needs to be renegotiated, but newly released records showed on Wednesday she promoted its passage.” Clinton, at the Cleveland debate, said “You know, I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning. I didn’t have a public position on it because I was part of the (Clinton) administration. But when I started running for the Senate, I have been a critic.” In her memoir, Clinton wrote: “Creating a free trade zone in North America—the largest free trade zone in the world—would expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens, of globalization. Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal. The question was whether the White House could focus its energies on two legislative campaigns at once . I argued that we could and that postponing health care would further weaken its chances.” http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN193341... > ; AP, 2/26/08 ; Living History, 182>



COMPLIANCE WITH PARTY RULES?



Clinton Campaigned In Florida And Held Two Events After Signing A Pledge Not To Campaign In Florida. “Hundreds of thousands of people have already voted in Florida and I want them to know I will be there to be part of what they have tried to do to make sure their voices are heard,” said Clinton before jetting to Sarasota and Miami for events on Sunday. The Clinton campaign claims that the senator from New York is abiding by the no-campaigning pledge because Sunday’s two Florida events were technically closed to the public. But the stops were treated as major news events in a state where many Democrats have expressed anger over the absence of the party’s presidential candidates during a period when Florida is overrun by Republican contenders. The truth of the Clinton strategy was writ large in a memo from top strategist Howard Wolfson, who announced on the day of the campaign’s dismal showing in South Carolina that, “Regardless of today’s outcome, the race quickly shifts to Florida, where hundreds of thousands of Democrats will turn out to vote on Tuesday. Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country, as the last state to vote before Super Tuesday on February 5.” Her arrival is Sarasota was timed so that she could be photographed with palm trees behind her. “It is a perfect day here in Florida,” declared a bemused candidate who officially was not campaigning in Florida as she posed for the classic Florida campaign photo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080128/cm_thenation... > >



Clinton Said Michigan Results Were Fair And Should Be Honored—After Saying It Was Clear That The Michigan Primary Did Not Count For Anything. In March, Clinton Said The Results Of The Michigan Primary Were “Fair And They Should Be Honored.” “Sen. Hillary Clinton on Wednesday warned that millions of people in Florida and Michigan ‘are in danger of being excluded from our democratic process’ if their votes are not counted. … ‘The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored,’ Clinton told a breakfast gathering hosted by the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Foundation in Washington.” In October, Clinton said “Well, you know, people in Michigan are flat on their backs. They have the highest unemployment rate in America. They are now grappling finally with what they are going to do with the auto industry. 1 in 10 jobs in America is tied to the auto industry which is – the American auto industry, which as we know is centered in Michigan. You know, it’s clear this election they’re having isn’t going to count for anything. But I just personally didn’t want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever. And then after the nomination we have to go in and repair the damage and be ready to win Michigan in November 2008.”



FOREIGN POLICY?



FactCheck.org: “The Public Record Of Her Actions Shows That Many Of Clinton’s Foreign Policy Claims Are Exaggerated.” “On March 6 Hillary Clinton claimed that, unlike Barack Obama, she and likely Republican nominee John McCain have ‘cross the commander-in-chief threshold.’ In a CNN interview the day before, Clinton had listed five foreign policy accomplishments. We can’t determine how much behind-the-scenes work Clinton did while first lady, and she certainly took an active interest in foreign policy when her husband was president. Moreover, her time as first lady plus her longer Senate career do give Clinton more foreign policy experience than Obama. But the public record of her actions shows that many of Clinton’s foreign policy claims are exaggerated.” http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/hillarys_advent... > >



FOREIGN TRIPS: Clinton’s “Sanitized, Ceremonial Trips Abroad” Were “Hardly Preparation” For Foreign Policy Duties Of Presidency. Hillary Clinton highlights her “extensive travel to more than 80 countries as First Lady and her 1995 women’s rights speech to the U.N. to demonstrate of her foreign policy experience. “But these sanitized, ceremonial trips abroad are hardly preparation for the middle-of-the-night call from the Situation Room.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20010704/site/newsweek/ > , 8/6/07>



NORTHERN IRELAND: Irish Policymakers, Fact Checkers Debunk Clinton’s Exaggerations. FactCheck.org: Clinton’s activities ‘helped bring peace to Northern Ireland.’ Irish officials are divided as to how helpful Clinton’s actions were, and key players agree that she was not directly involved in any actual negotiations.” Politifact.com: “Clinton claimed that she ‘helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland.’ That’s the kind of thing that Mitchell, Hume or Trimble could accurately say. But based on our interviews and research, it’s a stretch for Clinton to say so. Although she played a role, especially with women in Northern Ireland, her statement leaves the impression that she was more involved than she was. We find her statement to be Half True.” “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it,” says Brian Feeney, an author and former leading Belfast politician. “Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a ‘wee bit silly’ for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province. Washington Post fact checker: “Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir “Living History.” <…> her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together “for the first time” seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.” http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/cli... > , 1/10/08; AP, 3/8/08 > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/392/ > ; FactCheck.org, 3/13/08 ; Telegraph, 3/8/08 >



KOSOVO: Washington Post, On Clinton’s Role In Kosovo: “The Record shows That Took An Intelligent Interest In All These Issues, Addressing Conferences And Meeting With Victims Of War, But Did Not Get Involved In Diplomatic Negotiations In An Meaningful Way. Her Role Was More Symbolic Than Substantive.” The Clinton campaign has provided various news clips to support Hillary Clinton’s claim during last night’s debate about “negotiating with governments like Macedonia to open their border again, to let Kosovar refugees in.” The news articles make clear that Clinton visited Albanian refugee camps in Macedonia on May 14, 1999, during the NATO bombing war against Serbia. Macedonia had closed its borders the previous week, in order to stem the flow of Albanian refugees from Kosovo. The Macedonian government reopened the border on May 13, the day before Clinton toured the camps. According to this CNN report, only a few stragglers crossed the border. Clearly, Clinton’s visit to Macedonia helped focus even more international attention on the country and the refugee crisis that resulted from the forced expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Albanians from Kosovo by the Serbian authorities. According to a May 16 Chicago Tribune report cited by the Clinton campaign, Clinton announced the “release of the first $ 2 million in a $ 21 million economic development package for Macedonia” at a meeting with Macedonian government leaders. The question is whether Clinton personally negotiated the deal with the Macedonian government–or U.S. diplomats used her forthcoming visit as an additional incentive to persuade the Macedonian authorities to re-open the border. The sequence of events–first the border reopening, followed by Clinton’s visit to the camps and her meeting with Macedonian government leaders–points to the second scenario…Her role was more symbolic than substantive. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/dem... > >



RWANDA: NY Times Rebuts Bill And Hillary Clinton’s Claims That Hillary Clinton Asserted Herself On Rwanda. During a brief question and answer period with the audience , the former president was asked about times during his presidency in which the Clinton’s disagreed and which he now acknowledges she was right. One instance, he said, was in not moving quickly to send U.S. troops to fight the genocide in Rwanda in 1994. ‘I think she would have clearly done that,’ he said, noting at the time he had concerns about military activities in Bosnia and that no one knew how bad the situation in Rwanda would turn out to be.” On This Week, George Stephanopoulos asked Hillary Clinton if she had urged Bill Clinton to intervene in Rwanda and she agreed with her husband’s remarks. The New York Times reported, “During those two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton did not hold a security clearance. She did not attend National Security Council meetings. She was not given a copy of the president’s daily intelligence briefing. She did not assert herself on the crises in Somalia, Haiti and Rwanda.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26clinton... > , 12/26/07> http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007... > , 12/10/07; ABC, This Week, 12/30/07>



FULLY VETTED?



Clinton Claims To Be Fully Vetted But Does Not Release Tax Returns And Cites Presidential Privilege On Information Related To Her White House Years, Drawing Criticism Even From Allies. Clinton’s “gates-drawn stance raised concerns that shadow her presidential bid today — that she reacts with a siege mentality under pressure, retreating behind a restrictive wall of presidential and attorney privilege. ‘There’s no question that her first instinct was to protect herself and the president,’ said former Clinton chief of staff Leon E. Panetta.” Roger Simon wrote, “Take the matter of her tax returns. Obama has released his, and Clinton won’t release hers, she says, until after she is the Democratic nominee. Why? She gives no reason. She says she files an ethics statement with the Senate, which is true, but so does Obama, and yet he also has released his tax returns. Clinton refuses to do so until after the Democratic convention. Does this make sense to anybody? If she is going to do it eventually, why not do it now, while Democrats are still voting on her? Keeping the returns secret just raises doubts and suspicions and kicks a hole in the case that she has been fully vetted.” The New York Times editorial board wrote, “Of the leading contenders, so far, only Senator Barack Obama has released his full income-tax returns — a level of disclosure once routine for candidates after the political corruption of Watergate. Release of the tax returns should not be made conditional on winning the nomination, as Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has made it.” http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-hillarydecis... > ; Politico , 12/14/08; Editorial, NYT, 2/15/08 >



Hillary Clinton Won’t Release Her Earmark Requests, Says She’s Proud Of The Pork She’s Secured For New York. “Hillary Clinton, by contrast, often seems to operate by the maxim that silence is golden. When asked whether she would release a list of her earmarks, her spokesman dodged the question, while declaring that she is ‘proud of the investments in New York that she has secured.’ But for now, at least, not proud enough to let voters know what they are. This exercise in secrecy is part of a Clinton pattern that grows more worrisome all the time.” http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/c... > >



15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE?



Clinton Claims Of 35 Years Of Experience Omit 15 Years At Rose Law Firm, Repeatedly Emphasize Mere One Year At Children’s Defense Fund. “She routinely tells voters that she’s “been working to bring positive change to people’s lives for 35 years.” She told a voter in New Hampshire: “I’ve spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector.” Speaking in South Carolina, Bill Clinton said his wife “could have taken a job with a firm … Instead she went to work with Marian Wright Edelman at the Children’s Defense Fund.” The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering. Clinton worked at the Children’s Defense Fund for less than a year, and that’s the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she’s ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor. Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas’ most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards. Neither she nor her surrogates, however, ever mention that on the campaign trail. Her campaign Web site biography devotes six paragraphs to her pro bono legal work for the poor but sums up the bulk of her experience in one sentence: “She also continued her legal career as a partner in a law firm.” http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/26377.html > , 2/3/08>

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Love the new audicons. I definitely can put those to use.

Hopefully won't kick my ass over a few of them. There is some contraband there...

Shane, I do not think he would. He has been a good friend to this blog.





I want to continue to be a good friend to the SMS blog as a result.



And when I say *I*, I don't mean everyone. I mean me. Chris is out there promoting the SMS thing, and he has ALWAYS been willing to promote us. Sides should not be taken when we are ALL together!



Mutuality is a very good thing, ya know?

To quote Benjamin Franklin, "We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we will all hang separtely."



On a more positive note, here is a Happy Birthday thread for Livingonli!

Maybe I was misunderstood at some point? Granted, I've expressed my exasperation over posts on the SMS blog that are annoying for the pure purpose to be annoying - that's the part that can make me a bit crabby (one of my many faults) - but it will work itself out.



On the division thing - certainly not my intent! - I'm a pretty big SMS promoter (at least I try to be)...



In any case, I'm glad Chris also is a strong supporter on this blog - doesn't surprise me at all - he's been very gracious and kind to me as well.

Two of the government contractors who allegedly took a peek at Sen. Barack Obama's passport records worked for a Virginia-based firm called Stanley, Inc., according to U.S. government officials with knowledge of the State Department passport controversy.



NBC News contacted a Stanley, Inc. spokeswoman this afternoon, and informed her that two sources had confirmed that employees at her firm were involved with the scandal. The spokeswoman would only comment: "We've been directed by the State Department to direct all media calls to them."



The government officials tell NBC News that Stanley Inc. fired the two workers. A worker at a second contracting company, not related to Stanley, Inc., also allegedly took a look at the Obama files and those belonging to Sen. John McCain. That person has been disciplined but not yet been fired, State Department officials say.

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So the workers that were fired were from Stanley. The one who was not? we do not know what THAT company is.



The CEO for Stanley donated money in 2005 to Joe Liberman, and this year to Hillary Clinton.



1000 bucks per person.

In March 2005, Titan pled guilty and paid the largest penalty under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in history for bribery and filing false tax returns.

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Who's watching Bill Moyers now.



That Fox News clip seems to be slowing down the browser on my computer since I am on the laptop without the fast speeds.