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Habeas Corpus on Life Support
Author: BobR
Date: 03/26/2008 12:43:46
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
- Ammendments V and VI of the U.S. Constitution...
So what does this mean for U.S. Citizens detained overseas by U.S. forces? Apparently, nothing. Numerous Americans have been "captured" by U.S. forces, including Yaser Hamdi in 2001 (son of a Saudi Arabian oil worker) and Bilal Hussein in 2006 (AP Photographer):
So who are these other two, and what is the Bush Administration's argument? In another example of the loss of habeas corpus:
(bold-face mine)
How will the Supreme Court rule? If another recent ruling is any indication, it won't be in favor of the accused:
States win over President on criminal law issue:
On first blush, this seems like the SCOTUS rebuked the power of the Executive branch, which is a good thing. The problem is, this time, the Bush Administration was doing the right thing. They were trying to ensure the individual states adhered to a treaty signed by the United States, one that prevents states like Texas from executing foreigners without ensuring they got a fair trial.
This is another example of why it is so important we get a Democrat (and a REAL one, not a fake one) in the White House - the SCOTUS is the last hope for the oppressed, and that hope is dwindling...
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
- Ammendments V and VI of the U.S. Constitution...
So what does this mean for U.S. Citizens detained overseas by U.S. forces? Apparently, nothing. Numerous Americans have been "captured" by U.S. forces, including Yaser Hamdi in 2001 (son of a Saudi Arabian oil worker) and Bilal Hussein in 2006 (AP Photographer):
The Supreme Court hears arguments Tuesday in a case that could significantly affect the legal rights of American civilians captured in Iraq.
The dispute tests whether U.S. citizens taken into custody and held by the U.S. military have access to federal courts to challenge their detention. It was brought by two Arab-Americans in custody in Baghdad, one of whom an Iraqi court sentenced to death for an alleged kidnapping.
Normally, U.S. citizens have a right to challenge their detention before a judge. The U.S. government says the men should be denied a hearing because they are officially held by the Multi-National Force-Iraq, a United Nations-mandated force led by the United States but joined by many countries...
So who are these other two, and what is the Bush Administration's argument? In another example of the loss of habeas corpus:
Separately detained by American-led military forces in Iraq, Mohammad Munaf and Shwaqi Omar are U.S. citizens who seek access to the basic procedural safeguards afforded by the Constitution – judicial review of their detention through the writ of habeas corpus. Together, both cases ask the Court to adopt a firm rule that allows an American citizen to challenge his or her detention in federal court whenever he or she is held in the custody of American officials...
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Attorneys for the Bush Administration have argued that the American military personnel detaining Mr. Munaf and Mr. Omar are participating in a multi-national force, and that consequently, United States courts have no jurisdiction to consider the challenges to these detentions. But the executive branch’s position would create perverse incentives to detain American citizens under the auspices of multinational military operations as a way to circumvent judicial review. Contrary to the Administration’s arguments, U.S. authorities should not be permitted to indefinitely hold and interrogate American citizens simply because the arresting forces operate with a United Nations or similar international mandate. Indeed, such interpretations would allow the government to arrest American citizens around the world with impunity and deny them the due process rights afforded by their national judicial system simply by convening the arresting authority under an international charter.
How will the Supreme Court rule? If another recent ruling is any indication, it won't be in favor of the accused:
States win over President on criminal law issue:
The Supreme Court, in a sweeping rejection of claims of power in the presidency, ruled 6-3 on Tuesday that the President does not have the authority to order states to relax their criminal procedures to obey a ruling of the World Court. The decision came in the case of Medellin v. Texas (06-984). Neither a World Court decision requiring U.S. states to provide new review of criminal cases involving foreign nationals, nor a memo by President Bush seeking to enforce the World Court ruling, preempts state law restrictions on challenges to convictions, the Court said in a ruling written by Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr.
On first blush, this seems like the SCOTUS rebuked the power of the Executive branch, which is a good thing. The problem is, this time, the Bush Administration was doing the right thing. They were trying to ensure the individual states adhered to a treaty signed by the United States, one that prevents states like Texas from executing foreigners without ensuring they got a fair trial.
This is another example of why it is so important we get a Democrat (and a REAL one, not a fake one) in the White House - the SCOTUS is the last hope for the oppressed, and that hope is dwindling...
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Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:20:16
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:20:16
Good morning!
Neil Cavuto is giving me a headache. It's too early for this kind of prissy idiocy.
Neil Cavuto is giving me a headache. It's too early for this kind of prissy idiocy.
Comment by 
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:24:46
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:24:46
Good Morning!
:clap: nice suodn mix from Shane, and yes... NEil Cavuto is NOT one I want to hear so early in the morning.
:clap: nice suodn mix from Shane, and yes... NEil Cavuto is NOT one I want to hear so early in the morning.
Comment by 
BobR on 03/26/2008 13:34:23
BobR on 03/26/2008 13:34:23
In a sea of insincerity, Neil Cavuto is Poseidon
Comment by 
TriSec on 03/26/2008 13:37:59
TriSec on 03/26/2008 13:37:59
:ph34r:
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 13:38:00
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 13:38:00
Good morning all. :yawn:
Have I told all of you that I hate ya'll for your freedoms?
:P
Other than that. AWESOME blog!! :clap:
Have I told all of you that I hate ya'll for your freedoms?
:P
Other than that. AWESOME blog!! :clap:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:39:58
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:39:58
Paul Begala?!?!?! 
HE comes across as a lot of things, but he never seemed to be a rough guy.
HE comes across as a lot of things, but he never seemed to be a rough guy.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:41:07
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:41:07
Well we ARE a vile lefty blog...
we ARE a vile lefty blog...
Comment by 
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:43:24
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:43:24
It amazes me that the only place I find news is on our lovely blog.
I am exhausted; completely tired from the Primary News cycle. Baghdad is burning. Tibet is making a real effort to declare their autonomy. The United States is about to have a Domestic Refugee problem with those seeking refuge being our own citizens, put on the street by a questionable mortgage, energy they couldn't afford, the loss of a job that is now being done by someone in China. We are, most likely, still being wire tapped. Our environment is still in dire straits. Yet, I turn on "the news" and am bombarded with the latest Clinton-Obama smackdown. We have become more concerned with gaffes and verbal missteps than the fact that we, as a world community, are at some very important impasses; of which, making the wrong decisions can have historical reprecussions.
I love Momma and the mooks. You all know that, but listening lately just drives the point home that, as Randi would say, "The News has been cancelled." For 3 hours in the morning, I sit and listen to Hillary v. Obama and it is really making me sad; sad to know that they are pulling their material from the previous day's news and that has become a one trick pony!
[/rant]
I am exhausted; completely tired from the Primary News cycle. Baghdad is burning. Tibet is making a real effort to declare their autonomy. The United States is about to have a Domestic Refugee problem with those seeking refuge being our own citizens, put on the street by a questionable mortgage, energy they couldn't afford, the loss of a job that is now being done by someone in China. We are, most likely, still being wire tapped. Our environment is still in dire straits. Yet, I turn on "the news" and am bombarded with the latest Clinton-Obama smackdown. We have become more concerned with gaffes and verbal missteps than the fact that we, as a world community, are at some very important impasses; of which, making the wrong decisions can have historical reprecussions.
I love Momma and the mooks. You all know that, but listening lately just drives the point home that, as Randi would say, "The News has been cancelled." For 3 hours in the morning, I sit and listen to Hillary v. Obama and it is really making me sad; sad to know that they are pulling their material from the previous day's news and that has become a one trick pony!
[/rant]
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 13:50:02
TriSec on 03/26/2008 13:50:02
Everyone stop at noon and look under the buttons and watch the clock tick to 299 days, mmmkay?
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:50:34
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:50:34
Velveeta! Chris 
loves !!!!
PRAISE CHEESUS! And, MRS. CHEESUS TOO!
loves !!!!PRAISE CHEESUS! And, MRS. CHEESUS TOO!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:51:35
My backwards clock is already at 299 days. It must be in as much of hurry as we are!!!
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:51:35
Quote by TriSec:
Everyone stop at noon and look under the buttons and watch the clock tick to 299 days, mmmkay?
My backwards clock is already at 299 days. It must be in as much of hurry as we are!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:52:07
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:52:07
Good Morning ....
I understand. I want this primary over soon and NOW. we have gone from discussing the actual issues to one scandal after another. We once suffered from an embarrassment of issues, now it is just embarrassing.
.... I understand. I want this primary over soon and NOW. we have gone from discussing the actual issues to one scandal after another. We once suffered from an embarrassment of issues, now it is just embarrassing.
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 13:52:08
They're sacrilicious!
(now available in cool ranch!)
BobR on 03/26/2008 13:52:08
Quote by starling310:
Velveeta! Chris
PRAISE CHEESUS! And, MRS. CHEESUS TOO!
They're sacrilicious!
(now available in cool ranch!)
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:52:16
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:52:16
I find it f*cking comical that we are STILL TALKING ABOUT REVEREND WRIGHT!!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:54:08
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:54:08
Oy with the Cheesus Jokes! :D
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:55:25
I don't care about the Primary being over. I just want it to be a blip on the news radar when there is so many more important things going on. We are going to elect, who we elect. Period. Hillary is padding her resume. Move on. McSame is crazy, but if you want to vote for him, go ahead. Move on. Obama goes to church and varies in his agreement with his preacher. MOVE THE F*CK ON!!!!
p.s. Raine...the above statements are not directed at you.
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:55:25
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning
I understand. I want this primary over soon and NOW. we have gone from discussing the actual issues to one scandal after another. We once suffered from an embarrassment of issues, now it is just embarrassing.
I don't care about the Primary being over. I just want it to be a blip on the news radar when there is so many more important things going on. We are going to elect, who we elect. Period. Hillary is padding her resume. Move on. McSame is crazy, but if you want to vote for him, go ahead. Move on. Obama goes to church and varies in his agreement with his preacher. MOVE THE F*CK ON!!!!
p.s. Raine...the above statements are not directed at you.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:55:40
I find it disgusting that Hillary decided to make it an issue again.
This was, with the exception of the Faux noos club, out of the fricking news cycle!
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:55:40
Quote by starling310:
I find it f*cking comical that we are STILL TALKING ABOUT REVEREND WRIGHT!!!!
This was, with the exception of the Faux noos club, out of the fricking news cycle!
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 13:55:57
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 13:55:57
Oh puleeze Hillary.................. what an asinine thing to say!!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:56:32
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:56:32
I think that perhpas the news should question how she took credit for bringing peace to Northern Ireland. ;)
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 13:57:49
Raine on 03/26/2008 13:57:49
:star: I knew they weren't directed at anyoen here. I do. You dunna need a disclaimer.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:57:54
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:57:54
the blue dress isn't something I WANT to hear about again - it's a low blow -- but many a woman said that they would not stand by her husband if he cheated and humiliated her in such a public fashion. You CAN choose to not be married anymore...
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:58:50
starling310 on 03/26/2008 13:58:50
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:59:30
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 13:59:30
I hate this primary now, too. So depressing.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:00:10
Thank you Dahlink!
I think I am gonna go listen to the 'Fresh Air' interview with Tracy Ullman. I am too cranky for PrimaryGate.
starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:00:10
Quote by Raine:
:star: I knew they weren't directed at anyoen here. I do. You dunna need a disclaimer.
Thank you Dahlink!
I think I am gonna go listen to the 'Fresh Air' interview with Tracy Ullman. I am too cranky for PrimaryGate.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:00:46
Oh no...I am bringin' down da blog.
starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:00:46
Quote by jd_in_ny:
I hate this primary now, too. So depressing.
Oh no...I am bringin' down da blog.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:02:32
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:02:32
So, how about Hillary sittiing down for a photo op with Richard Mellon Sciaffe? With was up with that one? When she said she was the *vistim* of a vast right conspiracy, she was talking about him and his newspaper who were trying to m,ake the case that Hillary Killed Vince Foster.
NICE, huh? ain't that loverly?
NICE, huh? ain't that loverly?
Comment by 
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:02:36
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:02:36
Good morning everyone. 
I think this working late (and eating late) is not doing my stomach much good.
I think this working late (and eating late) is not doing my stomach much good.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 14:02:53
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 14:02:53
Morning :hug:
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 14:03:15
not you!
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 14:03:15
Quote by starling310:Quote by jd_in_ny:
I hate this primary now, too. So depressing.
Oh no...I am bringin' down da blog.
not you!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:03:41
True Dat!
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:03:41
Quote by BobR:
In a sea of insincerity, Neil Cavuto is Poseidon
True Dat!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:06:17
No -- the Primary is bringing down the Blog. I keep praying that people will come to thier senses.
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:06:17
Quote by starling310:Quote by jd_in_ny:
I hate this primary now, too. So depressing.
Oh no...I am bringin' down da blog.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:10:49
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:10:49
:puke:
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:11:49
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:11:49
Why does this whole primary distraction from the rest of the news make this feel like it's the last days of the Roman Empire? (Or at least how they felt in those waning days)
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 14:13:45
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 14:13:45
BOTOX - the 2nd most deadly known toxin on earth. A biological agent that could kill millions!
And silly people put that crap in their face!
And then soon look like they are permanently scared! :lol:
And silly people put that crap in their face!
And then soon look like they are permanently scared! :lol:
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:14:19
starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:14:19
Tracy Ullman talking about her Citizenship test and how you have to study Civics.
Interesting. . . Naturalized Citizens probably know more than people born into it.
Interesting. . . Naturalized Citizens probably know more than people born into it.
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 14:15:54
Obama goes on vacation, and Hillary sucks all the hope out of the room. When he comes back, it will be like a breath of fresh air. Hopefully, the voters in PA will recognize that.
EDIT: Perhaps they already are...
BobR on 03/26/2008 14:15:54
Quote by Raine:
No -- the Primary is bringing down the Blog. I keep praying that people will come to thier senses.
Obama goes on vacation, and Hillary sucks all the hope out of the room. When he comes back, it will be like a breath of fresh air. Hopefully, the voters in PA will recognize that.
EDIT: Perhaps they already are...
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:16:16
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:16:16
If Hillary is going to bring up Pastor Wright, can we bring up her association with "The Family"?
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:17:44
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:17:44
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 14:18:45
a little late on the edit... :whistling:
BobR on 03/26/2008 14:18:45
Quote by BobR:
Obama goes on vacation, and Hillary sucks all the hope out of the room. When he comes back, it will be like a breath of fresh air. Hopefully, the voters in PA will recognize that.
EDIT: Perhaps they already are...
a little late on the edit... :whistling:
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:19:20
starling310 on 03/26/2008 14:19:20
:: terry gross :: :sleeping:
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:20:48
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:20:48
Oh der leader makes me smile everytime!
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 14:21:10
I know two people who have taken the citizenship test and they know vastly more then the average guy on the street about this country. Sad really.
I don't know how people born here can profess to love this country so much and know so little about it.
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 14:21:10
Quote by starling310:
Tracy Ullman talking about her Citizenship test and how you have to study Civics.
Interesting. . . Naturalized Citizens probably know more than people born into it.
I know two people who have taken the citizenship test and they know vastly more then the average guy on the street about this country. Sad really.
I don't know how people born here can profess to love this country so much and know so little about it.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:23:52
No. More. Reverand Wright EVAH!!!
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:23:52
No. More. Reverand Wright EVAH!!!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:24:05
Who remembers that Simpsons episode where Springfield was rounding up the illegal aliens as scapegoats while Apu frantically studies for his citizenship test. It was important for him to forget everything Homer said.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:24:05
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Tracy Ullman talking about her Citizenship test and how you have to study Civics.
Interesting. . . Naturalized Citizens probably know more than people born into it.
I know two people who have taken the citizenship test and they know vastly more then the average guy on the street about this country. Sad really.
I don't know how people born here can profess to love this country so much and know so little about it.
Who remembers that Simpsons episode where Springfield was rounding up the illegal aliens as scapegoats while Apu frantically studies for his citizenship test. It was important for him to forget everything Homer said.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:26:30
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:26:30
If this keeps up, the only way for the Democrats to win the White House would be if the economy collapses, Iraq turns into a total shit-storm and Bush starts bombing Iran as well ensuring a total collapse that would keep anyone with half a brain from voting Republican.
If it comes down to that, this country is fucked.
If it comes down to that, this country is fucked.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:28:17
I am wonderign if Momma has at least READ these articles. Last night on Cavuto, I think it wouold have helped.
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:28:17
Quote by livingonli:
If Hillary is going to bring up Pastor Wright, can we bring up her association with "The Family"?
I am wonderign if Momma has at least READ these articles. Last night on Cavuto, I think it wouold have helped.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:29:55
I don't think she has. She seems to feel it's just tit-for-tat.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:29:55
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
If Hillary is going to bring up Pastor Wright, can we bring up her association with "The Family"?
I am wonderign if Momma has at least READ these articles. Last night on Cavuto, I think it wouold have helped.
I don't think she has. She seems to feel it's just tit-for-tat.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:35:57
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:35:57
I do remember one of the neo-con pundits saying that if a Republican can't win that they should back Hillary because she would be closest in supporting her agenda.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 14:39:45
Don't you be hating on La Gross!
She is freaking great!
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 14:39:45
Quote by starling310:
:: terry gross :: :sleeping:
:thud:
Don't you be hating on La Gross!
She is freaking great!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:41:23
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:41:23
*sigh* SIGH* SIGH!!!!!
This STOPPED being an issue until HILLARY brought it up! GAH!!!
This STOPPED being an issue until HILLARY brought it up! GAH!!!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:42:27
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:42:27
This caller. 
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:42:45
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:42:45
The untited States doesn't have a real good record with Black people!
Go JIM!@!!!!
Go JIM!@!!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:44:29
We already have number 1, number 2 is in the process as we speak... so we are well on our way.
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:44:29
Quote by livingonli:
If this keeps up, the only way for the Democrats to win the White House would be if the economy collapses, Iraq turns into a total shit-storm and Bush starts bombing Iran as well ensuring a total collapse that would keep anyone with half a brain from voting Republican.
If it comes down to that, this country is fucked.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:48:24
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:48:24
Where is it 5 oclock?!?!? These callers are killing me today.
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 14:48:54
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 14:48:54
Frankly, I happen to agree with the Rev........... I don't think its a coincidence that AID's is prevalent in the gay and black communities...... ditto Meth and Crack.
and
and
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:50:35
The reverand Wright was alos given commendations by THREE presidents.
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:50:35
Quote by velveeta jones:
Frankly, I happen to agree with the Rev........... I don't think its a coincidence that AID's is prevalent in the gay and black communities...... ditto Meth and Crack.
The reverand Wright was alos given commendations by THREE presidents.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:51:59
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:51:59
I think we all need this this morning!!! 
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:52:40
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:52:40
It goes to what Gary Hart said. Hillary is only interested in winning the presidency and if she doesn't get the nomination, she will shoot down the nominee thinking she will then have a shot in 2012.
She should just join Lieberman in the power-mad phonies corner.
She should just join Lieberman in the power-mad phonies corner.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:53:00
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:53:00
:usa: Go on caller! :usa:
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:56:06
livingonli on 03/26/2008 14:56:06
Look at the disproportionate punishments between crack and cocaine and you can see the racial discrimination still present in the justice system.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:56:13
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:56:13
I MUST say that I think there is something VERY wrong with taking away a person's right to vote just becuase they go to jail.
SERIOUSLY WRONG. Once they get OUT of jail, they should be allowed to vote again.
SERIOUSLY WRONG. Once they get OUT of jail, they should be allowed to vote again.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 14:57:08
Raine on 03/26/2008 14:57:08
What about Jim Crow? Reparations is all part of the story that caller was mentioning.
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 15:02:29
I disagree with monetary "reparations". Not a good idea...
BobR on 03/26/2008 15:02:29
Quote by Raine:
What about Jim Crow? Reparations is all part of the story that caller was mentioning.
I disagree with monetary "reparations". Not a good idea...
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:03:42
England? :shrug:
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:03:42
Quote by Raine:
Where is it 5 oclock?!?!? These callers are killing me today.
England? :shrug:
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:05:53
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:05:53
:: tracy ullman :: ". . .I'm gonna go find some of these bloggers, terry. Slap 'em around a bit."
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:08:18
I understand that, but you know it slays me that all freed slaves were suppsed to get 40 acres and a mule...
So many instead got run out of town. We do things in this coutnry that ARE injust.
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:08:18
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
What about Jim Crow? Reparations is all part of the story that caller was mentioning.
I disagree with monetary "reparations". Not a good idea...
I understand that, but you know it slays me that all freed slaves were suppsed to get 40 acres and a mule...
So many instead got run out of town. We do things in this coutnry that ARE injust.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:08:31
I think Italy right now. England doesn't hit 5 0'clock for another two hours.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:08:31
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Where is it 5 oclock?!?!? These callers are killing me today.
England? :shrug:
I think Italy right now. England doesn't hit 5 0'clock for another two hours.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:15:34
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:15:34
The phones are busy this morning to the big show.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:15:46
livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:15:46
Jim was too young for stag films.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:18:15
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:18:15
One hold!
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 15:19:49
BobR on 03/26/2008 15:19:49
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:22:51
Similar to "one love"
:blink:
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:22:51
Quote by Raine:
One hold!
Similar to "one love"
:blink:
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:24:27
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:24:27
"One Hold. One heart. Let's get together and feel alright. . . "
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:25:02
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:25:02
Still holding!!!... this one will be a longhold.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:26:04
:rofl: IRIE!
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:26:04
Quote by starling310:
"One Hold. One heart. Let's get together and feel alright. . . "
:rofl: IRIE!
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:28:55
TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:28:55
:thud:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:32:50
Saltiness?
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:32:50
Quote by TriSec:
:thud:
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:33:46
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:33:46
Uh Oh............... TriSec is down! We need medics and booze........STAT.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:35:02
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:35:02
OK, I guess I can wait until AFTER rep. Lee! Yay barbara lee!
Comment by 
IzzyBitz on 03/26/2008 15:35:37
Ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em...
Morning all!
IzzyBitz on 03/26/2008 15:35:37
Ya gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em...Morning all!
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 15:35:38
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 15:35:38
Is that the Peanuts teacher?
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:35:42
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:35:42
Is Barbara Lee drunk? 
Oh, there she is. Maybe her phone is just crap.
Oh, there she is. Maybe her phone is just crap.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:36:59
I got the booze! We can use his salt to make the margaritas!
Sadly Tri is our blog medic...
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:36:59
Quote by velveeta jones:
Uh Oh............... TriSec is down! We need medics and booze........STAT.
Sadly Tri is our blog medic...
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:39:45
Know when to walk away... know when to run...
:P
I used to sing this song when I played softball (second base) My sisters would sing along.... (first and third!)
MAJOR mind game to the batter on the other team... ;)
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:39:45
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Morning all!
:P
I used to sing this song when I played softball (second base) My sisters would sing along.... (first and third!)
MAJOR mind game to the batter on the other team... ;)
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:40:05
Welp, nothing we can do then. He was a good blogger. :: 'taps' plays in the distance :: Here's to Tri Sec! :: hoists margarita ::
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:40:05
Quote by Raine:I got the booze! We can use his salt to make the margaritas!Quote by velveeta jones:
Uh Oh............... TriSec is down! We need medics and booze........STAT.
Sadly Tri is our blog medic...
Welp, nothing we can do then. He was a good blogger. :: 'taps' plays in the distance :: Here's to Tri Sec! :: hoists margarita ::
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:40:45
TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:40:45
TriSec is very regimented. When one thing is altered, my day collapses like a Republican Presidency.
I was thinking that I'm glad it's Wednesday...whether or not Los Mythbusteros are a repeat, I usually drink one of these. :martini:
I was thinking that I'm glad it's Wednesday...whether or not Los Mythbusteros are a repeat, I usually drink one of these. :martini:
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:40:46
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:40:46
Yeesh...her phone is annoying.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:41:42
To Tri! ::: raises jamesons:::
We hardly knew ye!
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:41:42
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I got the booze! We can use his salt to make the margaritas!Quote by velveeta jones:
Uh Oh............... TriSec is down! We need medics and booze........STAT.
Sadly Tri is our blog medic...
Welp, nothing we can do then. He was a good blogger. :: 'taps' plays in the distance :: Here's to Tri Sec! :: hoists margarita ::
We hardly knew ye!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:43:51
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:43:51
Hillary Clinton racist comments. . . Yeah, cause this is all important!
Yeah, cause this is all important!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:45:31
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:45:31
..... Thank you for your patience.... the next available service representative will be with you shortly.... We are about your input, thank you for holding....
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:49:48
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:49:48
Upstaged by a friggin' 8 year old...................
:rofl:
Wow.......... that's embarrassing.
:rofl:
Wow.......... that's embarrassing.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/26/2008 15:50:12
I was listening to a biggest man boobs contest earlier.
I got class. Who says I ain't got class?!
IzzyBitz on 03/26/2008 15:50:12
Quote by Raine:
I think we all need this this morning!!!
I was listening to a biggest man boobs contest earlier.
I got class. Who says I ain't got class?!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:53:23
how am I supposed to follow that?
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:53:23
Quote by velveeta jones:
Upstaged by a friggin' 8 year old...................
:rofl:
Wow.......... that's embarrassing.
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:55:37
TriSec on 03/26/2008 15:55:37
The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:56:09
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:56:09
Did he say "I love your fangs?" or "I love your bangs?"
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 15:57:05
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 15:57:05
Raine!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:57:25
Look at what the Nazis did to them.
Raine. Just in time for the call.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 15:57:25
Quote by BobR:
Circus of Horrors shut down
Apparently, gypsies are the niggers of Europe. Disgusting...
Look at what the Nazis did to them.
Raine. Just in time for the call.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 15:57:32
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 15:57:32
TriSec's ghost!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 15:57:36
Raine on 03/26/2008 15:57:36
WHEW!
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:57:53
velveeta jones on 03/26/2008 15:57:53
WooHOOO...........
glad I heard you......... off to a meeting and then............werk.
Love to all..........
glad I heard you......... off to a meeting and then............werk.
Love to all..........
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:59:00
I thought I spotted you at a 7-11 in Nevada, but it was an impersonator.
"TRI SEC HAS LEFT THE BUILDING."
starling310 on 03/26/2008 15:59:00
Quote by TriSec:
The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
I thought I spotted you at a 7-11 in Nevada, but it was an impersonator.
"TRI SEC HAS LEFT THE BUILDING."
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:00:00
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:00:00
I didn't mean to get a but I Did! :party:
Comment by 
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 16:05:57
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 16:05:57
I wasn't on my computer - then I heard Raine on the radio thingy! Then I had to get online. HA! Well done. I don't know whose voice I like better, Steph's or Raine's... 
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:08:38
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:08:38
:redface: you know I Tawk like I am from noo yawk!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:08:52
You done us proud.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:08:52
Quote by Raine:
I didn't mean to get a but I Did! :party:
You done us proud.
Comment by 
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:14:37
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:14:37
I'm waaay too shy to call in - I know I will someday - I *have* to! I've written to the show and actually had an email read on the air -- I was the one who said Stephie was right for believing her psychic because (blush) I - too - read tarot cards (yeppers), and I'm not too shy about THAT I guess. (bracing for the onslaught of teasing/jokes now)
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:14:37
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:14:37
Raine, you think I should call back in sometime?
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:16:27
I gave you a :: golf swing :: and a FLAVEN! at my desk!
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:16:27
Quote by Raine:
I didn't mean to get a but I Did! :party:
I gave you a :: golf swing :: and a FLAVEN! at my desk!
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:16:41
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:16:41
Thomm needs to ask her if we are a "religious" nation then what religion.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:18:02
That's cool Bal. I've always wanted to do the Tarot card thing, but they scare me a little.
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:18:02
Quote by balleryna2:
I'm waaay too shy to call in - I know I will someday - I *have* to! I've written to the show and actually had an email read on the air -- I was the one who said Stephie was right for believing her psychic because (blush) I - too - read tarot cards (yeppers), and I'm not too shy about THAT I guess. (bracing for the onslaught of teasing/jokes now)
That's cool Bal. I've always wanted to do the Tarot card thing, but they scare me a little.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:18:26
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:18:26
I wonder if Thom goes to break and says "Pfft. Moron."
I would.
I would.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:19:30
Fo' Reals Yo.
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:19:30
Quote by wickedpam:
Thomm needs to ask her if we are a "religious" nation then what religion.
Fo' Reals Yo.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:07
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:07
I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:11
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:11
I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:29
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:24:29
I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:24:31
I think he's too polite.
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 16:24:31
Quote by starling310:
I wonder if Thom goes to break and says "Pfft. Moron."
I would.
I think he's too polite.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:25:26
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:25:26
Triple post!?!? 
:assspank:
:assspank:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:25:58
I know!
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:25:58
Quote by starling310: I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:26:51
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:26:51
I'm wiccan (grew up Methodist) - and have to constantly keep it "private" with most people. My husband's family found out about it in a big way by accident when they came up to visit last summer. Oh the fun. Luckily, everyone was totally cool. It was my sister-in-law who freaked out, but she was finally fine, too.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:27:35
I know!
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:27:35
Quote by starling310: I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:28:32
!!!
:rofl:
Just bustin ya! The irony is high LAIR eeeyus!
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:28:32
Quote by starling310:
I have been listening to Thom for 10 minutes and he hasn't mentioned Hillary OR Obama!!! What's the deal THOM!!?!? How dare you talk about.....about....SOMETHING ELSE!
:rofl:
Just bustin ya! The irony is high LAIR eeeyus!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:28:33
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:28:33
I vote for now Thom. Let's do it now.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:29:07
Hey, I would. I see Sammy doing it on the Sammy Cam after some of those really toolie right-wing callers.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:29:07
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
I wonder if Thom goes to break and says "Pfft. Moron."
I would.
I think he's too polite.
Hey, I would. I see Sammy doing it on the Sammy Cam after some of those really toolie right-wing callers.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:31:16
So, if we threw you in a lake, you'd float?
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:31:16
Quote by balleryna2:
I'm wiccan (grew up Methodist) - and have to constantly keep it "private" with most people. My husband's family found out about it in a big way by accident when they came up to visit last summer. Oh the fun. Luckily, everyone was totally cool. It was my sister-in-law who freaked out, but she was finally fine, too.
So, if we threw you in a lake, you'd float?
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:33:21
I know quite a few wiccans back in NY. Spititually wicca is where I am most comfortable, I must tell you.
My friend Cait is a Shaman. (name dropping time!) She is a hellova author as well!
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:33:21
Quote by balleryna2: I'm wiccan (grew up Methodist) - and have to constantly keep it "private" with most people. My husband's family found out about it in a big way by accident when they came up to visit last summer. Oh the fun. Luckily, everyone was totally cool. It was my sister-in-law who freaked out, but she was finally fine, too.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:34:46
If it weren't for my fake boobies, I think I'd sink like a rock. I forgot - do witches sink or float??
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:34:46
If it weren't for my fake boobies, I think I'd sink like a rock. I forgot - do witches sink or float??
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:35:28
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:35:28
Oh wait, I remember now - they float because "they're made of wood". I guess I'm screwed!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:36:36
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:36:36
NO THOOOOM NOOOOOOO!!!!! NOT THE HILLARY STORY!!!!!
La la la....I can't hear you.
La la la....I can't hear you.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:37:12
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:37:12
Ha!
That was pretty funny, though.
That was pretty funny, though.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:37:46
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:37:46
Oh how cool! My husband is also into it - he calls himself Pagan.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:38:30
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:38:30
We've got to do something about Sudan? But, Thom...they're brown people!??!?!
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:39:09
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:39:09
He's now onto Darfur. Whew!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:39:18
You might get teased, Outta caring and the flaven.... but you won't be mocked for your beliefs, not here on this space.
Do not ever feel concerned about that. We are a very caring bunch.
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:39:18
Quote by balleryna2: I'm waaay too shy to call in - I know I will someday - I *have* to! I've written to the show and actually had an email read on the air -- I was the one who said Stephie was right for believing her psychic because (blush) I - too - read tarot cards (yeppers), and I'm not too shy about THAT I guess. (bracing for the onslaught of teasing/jokes now)
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:40:23
Depnds upon how much salt is in the water... More salt... that means more float.
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:40:23
Quote by balleryna2:
More salt... that means more float.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:41:22
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:41:22
My Mom works at a Convent where the Nuns are super progressive. They challenge Rome on a lot of decisions. They believe women should be able to serve as Bishops, etc. They don't believe in habits; they're still nuns in a pair of pants and a shirt. And, they believe in Gay Marriage among many other things!
:clap:
:clap:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:41:51
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:41:51
In the end, I really believe in Mother earth. I respect other religions, I do, but I have a problem with religion, only becuase it prescribes morality. Mother earth doesn't , not to me.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:42:55
So do apples, wood, small rocks, churches, and ducks.
"So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."
"And therefore..?"
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:42:55
Quote by balleryna2:
Oh wait, I remember now - they float because "they're made of wood". I guess I'm screwed!
So do apples, wood, small rocks, churches, and ducks.
"So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."
"And therefore..?"
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:43:06
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:43:06
My husband's step-mom was Muslim, who died a few months before 9/11. We were so relieved that she didn't have to suffer with the onslaught of anti-Muslim feeling afterward. Her relatives, however, were not as lucky and were promptly fired because they "looked Muslim". They were not practicing Muslim-only she was (she was from Indonesia), but were Catholic. They had good paying jobs in Las Vegas and had a lot of trouble the following few years afterward trying to find steady work. They are fine now, but it was really hard on them.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:43:13
Very true. We definitely rib each other. But, it's out of "One Love!"
Or, "One Hold" as Raine says!
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:43:13
Quote by Raine:You might get teased, Outta caring and the flaven.... but you won't be mocked for your beliefs, not here on this space.Quote by balleryna2:
I'm waaay too shy to call in - I know I will someday - I *have* to! I've written to the show and actually had an email read on the air -- I was the one who said Stephie was right for believing her psychic because (blush) I - too - read tarot cards (yeppers), and I'm not too shy about THAT I guess. (bracing for the onslaught of teasing/jokes now)
Do not ever feel concerned about that. We are a very caring bunch.
Very true. We definitely rib each other. But, it's out of "One Love!"
Or, "One Hold" as Raine says!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:44:57
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:44:57
I have started to approach religion, as an adult, as a curiosity. I like to learn about them as I enjoyed learning about Philosophers in college, or what have you.
Just sayin.
Just sayin.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:47:47
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:47:47
Thanks!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:49:21
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:49:21
::: channels the Beatles::: All you need is 
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:50:09
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:50:09
Flash 'em if you got 'em. 
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:51:13
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:51:13
I think religion in itself is a fascinating topic - it is the basis for how we structure our individual beliefs about the spiritual world. I probably never would've strayed from the Methodist if it hadn't been for the fact that my house was haunted for most of my childhood. And it wasn't just "lightly" haunted - it was pretty hardcore at times. I found out later on that quite a lot happened in my house prior to my family moving into it - it was built in the 20's - and there had been quite a number of deaths in it. ( )
)
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:51:59
I agreI agree. You know I think it is VERY brave of Sammy to do the cam. Could you imagine for instance, RANDI having a studio cam? Oh dear lord. 
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:51:59
Quote by wickedpam:I think he's too polite.Quote by starling310: I wonder if Thom goes to break and says "Pfft. Moron." I would.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:52:29
starling310 on 03/26/2008 16:52:29
Woah Balleryna! That's crazy ( not in a bad way )!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:52:52
HEY! you too dude! 
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:52:52
Quote by livingonli: Flash 'em if you got 'em.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:57:08
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 16:57:08
Yeah, it was pretty intense. I would never wish it upon anyone - It did, however, in a good way, cause me to question a lot of conventional ideas about what happens when you die (heaven, hell, ghosts, etc). I often felt helpless by it when it would happen, but after a number of years, I ended up really toughening up that vulnerable side of me, and it eventually stopped/slowed down. It was great many years later to talk about it, and thought often about writing about it, but I've put that idea to rest because it seems to bring up/back too many negatives that I'd rather just forget about.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 16:58:04
Raine on 03/26/2008 16:58:04
balleryna, You too??? I am getting ready to go out for lunch, (I will be back before Thom is over) but the house I grew up in was as well. My sisters used to hear people in the attic. They were VERY young... 4 and 6.5... it was a semi finishd attic. My mom actually went up and had a conversation with the entity, told him that we were going to live in the house and that we would take care of it... (we were new in this house, also built in the 20's)
We found out that the original builder's name was gus... over the years, gus stopped the scary stuff, but ALWAYS, when things went wrong, stuff would go missing.
And yes, we also found out that some FAR more serious stuff went on in that house in the 60's... I have another amazing story to tell you...
Some things simply cannot be explained. But I know what I have seen and heard and ... well, stuff like that.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:58:46
Hey, this can be whip it out Wednesday. 
livingonli on 03/26/2008 16:58:46
Quote by Raine:HEY! you too dude!Quote by livingonli:
Flash 'em if you got 'em.
Hey, this can be whip it out Wednesday.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:00:00
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:00:00
I am actually really excited about the girl that I have recently started dating. She is Jewish and while I know it isn't DRASTICALLY different from me, it will be interesting to learn about the traditions, etc. She has invited me to a Passover Sadr and I've never been. It's amazing that I am 30 years old and have never personally known a Jewish person until now.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:01:56
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:01:56
Ohh mah gawd! All this :boob: flashing. :fans self: :staggers to fainting couch:
Oh mucal invader is there no end to your oozing?
Oh mucal invader is there no end to your oozing?
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:02:51
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:02:51
I told someone once about it and they said that it was much like the movie "The Entity". I finally saw the movie and was very relieved to say that it was not THAT bad. I think I would've considered suicide if it had been like THAT. But, it did make me feel about as frightened as that woman did - and as "vulnerable". I think the closest thing I can describe it like - it was like having some "evil uncle chuckles" coming in your bedroom on random nights to do things like - sit on your bed, destroy your dolls, stuffed animals, remove your bedding, push you, grab your hands, ankles, throw you down, etc etc, etc. It was pretty scary - but I finally braved myself up and actually "pushed it" and it finally stopped.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:03:30
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:03:30
Oh Mondo. .. you poor, darling man. :: fans mondo :: :: smelling salts ::
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 17:04:14
Raine on 03/26/2008 17:04:14
balleryna, Do any of these books ring a bell?
... OK I will be back later everyone... do me a favour... someone give monda a hand, I think he has collapsed in the corner... .
.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:05:39
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:05:39
Friends of mine back in high school lived in a haunted house. If they were having a gathering, as soon as people would start to leave, the house would get FREEZING...to the point where you could see your breath. 
Guess that means that the spirits liked company.
Poor lonely spirits. :hug:
Guess that means that the spirits liked company.
Poor lonely spirits. :hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:05:54
You never have know any Jewish folks personally until now?
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:05:54
Quote by starling310:
I am actually really excited about the girl that I have recently started dating. She is Jewish and while I know it isn't DRASTICALLY different from me, it will be interesting to learn about the traditions, etc. She has invited me to a Passover Sadr and I've never been. It's amazing that I am 30 years old and have never personally known a Jewish person until now.
You never have know any Jewish folks personally until now?
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:06:43
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:06:43
Hey Raine, thanks for the book list - I recognize "Cooking like a Goddess" - I was going to buy that one about a year ago - NOW I will definitely get a copy :-) Thank you!
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:07:39
:eyes flutter open: :whispers: Thank you kind angel of mercy.
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 17:07:39
Quote by starling310:
Oh Mondo. .. you poor, darling man. :: fans mondo :: :: smelling salts ::
:eyes flutter open: :whispers: Thank you kind angel of mercy.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:10:48
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:10:48
I didn't realize how much there was to learn about the Jewish religion until I lived in Manhattan/Greenwich Village for a couple of years. I had some Jewish friends growing up as a kid, but I was never exposed to it until the mid/late 90's. You will really love it.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:12:14
As far as I know. . . unless I have known some and I just never knew their faith background. It wasn't by choice.
"Ah sweah...oh Mondo...do forgive me...you sweet gentle man....." :: bats eyelashes :: :: spins parasol ::
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:12:14
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:
I am actually really excited about the girl that I have recently started dating. She is Jewish and while I know it isn't DRASTICALLY different from me, it will be interesting to learn about the traditions, etc. She has invited me to a Passover Sadr and I've never been. It's amazing that I am 30 years old and have never personally known a Jewish person until now.
You never have know any Jewish folks personally until now?
As far as I know. . . unless I have known some and I just never knew their faith background. It wasn't by choice.
"Ah sweah...oh Mondo...do forgive me...you sweet gentle man....." :: bats eyelashes :: :: spins parasol ::
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:13:46
I just want something good to happen to her so I can say "MAZEL TOV!"
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:13:46
Quote by balleryna2:
I didn't realize how much there was to learn about the Jewish religion until I lived in Manhattan/Greenwich Village for a couple of years. I had some Jewish friends growing up as a kid, but I was never exposed to it until the mid/late 90's. You will really love it.
I just want something good to happen to her so I can say "MAZEL TOV!"
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:14:10
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:14:10
I love this discussion Thom is having right now - boy oh boy - Health care is such a HUGE problem in our country - and the guy on the phone seems to think everything is still hunky-dorey.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:15:02
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:15:02
Terry Terry Terry......
Oh...this high pitched shill.
I can't take him.
Oh...this high pitched shill.
I can't take him.
Comment by balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:16:01
balleryna2 on 03/26/2008 17:16:01
It's so sad that Job# 1 is about scoring $$$ in healing someone, instead of letting people stay sick.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 17:30:47
Why is it whenever he's on Thom, I can only picture Momma and Jim making fun of the way he talks and Producerchris chastising them.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 17:30:47
Quote by starling310:
Terry Terry Terry......
Oh...this high pitched shill.
I can't take him.
Why is it whenever he's on Thom, I can only picture Momma and Jim making fun of the way he talks and
Producerchris chastising them.
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 17:48:39
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 17:48:39
Sorry to interrupt the blog - but Liv - or to anyone else that listens to Rachel's show today: I'm trying to get the audicon of the Maddow trumpet annoucement (as requested). I'm going to set my computer to record the entire three hour stream of her show today - unfortunately, I just don't have the time to listen to the whole thing. If there is anyone who does listen to her today, and notices that the audio bit is played, could you mark the time and post it here - so that I can capture that section?
I'd really appreciate it! Thanks!
p.s. I hate that Thom is not on live in Roch-cha-cha (we don't get it here until 9 pm - grr!)
I'd really appreciate it! Thanks!
p.s. I hate that Thom is not on live in Roch-cha-cha (we don't get it here until 9 pm - grr!)
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:51:03
Totally.
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:51:03
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:
Terry Terry Terry......
Oh...this high pitched shill.
I can't take him.
Why is it whenever he's on Thom, I can only picture Momma and Jim making fun of the way he talks and
Totally.
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:52:13
starling310 on 03/26/2008 17:52:13
Shane-O now returns us to our regularly scheduled blog.
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 17:56:01
: blog medic swoops into action :
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TriSec on 03/26/2008 17:56:01
Quote by Raine:
.. someone give monda a hand, I think he has collapsed in the corner...
: blog medic swoops into action :
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 17:59:15
OK - yes, that was a silly thing for me to say...
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 17:59:15
Quote by starling310:
Shane-O now returns us to our regularly scheduled blog.
:rofl:
OK - yes, that was a silly thing for me to say...
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 18:04:50
I'm sometimes able to get 1470 out of Ithaca, which airs Thom live, or else go on the internets if I'm able (like now)
sometimes I listen to the Ed, but I just couldn't today.
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 18:04:50
Quote by Shane-O:
p.s. I hate that Thom is not on live in Roch-cha-cha (we don't get it here until 9 pm - grr!)
I'm sometimes able to get 1470 out of Ithaca, which airs Thom live, or else go on the internets if I'm able (like now)
sometimes I listen to the Ed, but I just couldn't today.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 18:16:42
Raine on 03/26/2008 18:16:42
:kickcan: Heya ... we are back, just in time to miss the interview! :(
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 18:27:24
I put on 1470 - it's coming in - but :wa-wa: (I gotta get that one) Ed is on there too!!! Maybe it's just today - I'll try again - and thanks JD!
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 18:27:24
Quote by jd_in_ny:Quote by Shane-O:
p.s. I hate that Thom is not on live in Roch-cha-cha (we don't get it here until 9 pm - grr!)
I'm sometimes able to get 1470 out of Ithaca, which airs Thom live, or else go on the internets if I'm able (like now)
sometimes I listen to the Ed, but I just couldn't today.
I put on 1470 - it's coming in - but :wa-wa: (I gotta get that one) Ed is on there too!!! Maybe it's just today - I'll try again - and thanks JD!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 18:38:37
Raine on 03/26/2008 18:38:37
OK. I have a new rule. ALL GOVERNMENT Things should be made in the USA. EVERY GOVERNMETN OFFICE SHOULD BE FORCED TO BUY FROM THE USA. Tough kaka if the governemtn thinks it costs too much. They should be helping out AMERICANS.
Passports being printed in Taiwan is so wrong.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 18:49:40
Raine on 03/26/2008 18:49:40
Almost time for the sammy cam!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 18:50:11
jd_in_ny on 03/26/2008 18:50:11
Shane-O - that's interesting, because I had 1470 on in the car just after noon, and it was Thom talking about religion and separation of church and state. I was sad when I lost reception, because he was doing so well!
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 18:58:30
Yes - you are right. When the local liner came on, it was 1520 out of Buffalo - obviously, my old Mcintosh isn't digital
I'm not getting 1470 -- but again, thanks!
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 18:58:30
Quote by jd_in_ny:
Shane-O - that's interesting, because I had 1470 on in the car just after noon, and it was Thom talking about religion and separation of church and state. I was sad when I lost reception, because he was doing so well!
Yes - you are right. When the local liner came on, it was 1520 out of Buffalo - obviously, my old Mcintosh isn't digital
I'm not getting 1470 -- but again, thanks!
Comment by starling310 on 03/26/2008 19:08:57
starling310 on 03/26/2008 19:08:57
Is Sammy back on the air somewhere, or is he a fill in????
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:21:51
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:21:51
JOHN MCAIN DID COMMIT A CRIME!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:23:09
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:23:09
He broke a law, I might add that he helped to write himslef... :grumble:
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 19:23:47
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 19:23:47
To those who are interested, Ms. Steph is booked on Dan Abrams' "Verdict" show on MSNBC - 9 pm EST tonight...
Comment by TriSec on 03/26/2008 19:28:04
Say now, you lived in New York. Remember when they were building the Acela line between Washington and Boston? Amtrak wanted to buy "off-the-shelf" high-speed trains from France or Germany, but Congress shot them down because Amtrak was required to buy "Made in the USA".
Whatever happened to that? (and the Acelas suck, anyway. We would have been better off with German trains...)
TriSec on 03/26/2008 19:28:04
Quote by Raine:
OK. I have a new rule. ALL GOVERNMENT Things should be made in the USA. EVERY GOVERNMETN OFFICE SHOULD BE FORCED TO BUY FROM THE USA. Tough kaka if the governemtn thinks it costs too much. They should be helping out AMERICANS.
Passports being printed in Taiwan is so wrong.
Say now, you lived in New York. Remember when they were building the Acela line between Washington and Boston? Amtrak wanted to buy "off-the-shelf" high-speed trains from France or Germany, but Congress shot them down because Amtrak was required to buy "Made in the USA".
Whatever happened to that? (and the Acelas suck, anyway. We would have been better off with German trains...)
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 19:29:22
yeah, he's filling in for Randi again today.
BobR on 03/26/2008 19:29:22
Quote by starling310:
Is Sammy back on the air somewhere, or is he a fill in????
yeah, he's filling in for Randi again today.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:33:42
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:33:42
He broke a law, I might add that he helped to write himslef... :grumble:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:36:17
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:36:17
Love Jannine! Miss Jannine!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:39:19
ok, that rule needs some revisions... <_<
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:39:19
Quote by TriSec:Say now, you lived in New York. Remember when they were building the Acela line between Washington and Boston? Amtrak wanted to buy "off-the-shelf" high-speed trains from France or Germany, but Congress shot them down because Amtrak was required to buy "Made in the USA". Whatever happened to that? (and the Acelas suck, anyway. We would have been better off with German trains...)Quote by Raine: OK. I have a new rule. ALL GOVERNMENT Things should be made in the USA. EVERY GOVERNMETN OFFICE SHOULD BE FORCED TO BUY FROM THE USA. Tough kaka if the governemtn thinks it costs too much. They should be helping out AMERICANS. Passports being printed in Taiwan is so wrong.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/26/2008 19:57:03
wickedpam on 03/26/2008 19:57:03
Alright guys - I'm off on to Clearwater tomorrow - back on Sunday so I'll be back here on Monday. Have a great weekend, I'm gonna miss you guys! :hug:
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 19:57:55
Raine on 03/26/2008 19:57:55
Kobe doesn't even understand the argument he is making! Ooffda!
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 20:00:04
:hug: Don't forget the sunscreen! HAve fun Mala! you so very deserve it!
Raine on 03/26/2008 20:00:04
Quote by wickedpam:
Alright guys - I'm off on to Clearwater tomorrow - back on Sunday so I'll be back here on Monday. Have a great weekend, I'm gonna miss you guys! :hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 20:07:51
You mean like the Air Force was required to? Air Bus tankers here we come
Mondobubba on 03/26/2008 20:07:51
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
OK. I have a new rule. ALL GOVERNMENT Things should be made in the USA. EVERY GOVERNMETN OFFICE SHOULD BE FORCED TO BUY FROM THE USA. Tough kaka if the governemtn thinks it costs too much. They should be helping out AMERICANS.
Passports being printed in Taiwan is so wrong.
Say now, you lived in New York. Remember when they were building the Acela line between Washington and Boston? Amtrak wanted to buy "off-the-shelf" high-speed trains from France or Germany, but Congress shot them down because Amtrak was required to buy "Made in the USA".
Whatever happened to that? (and the Acelas suck, anyway. We would have been better off with German trains...)
You mean like the Air Force was required to? Air Bus tankers here we come
Comment by BobR on 03/26/2008 20:09:09
BobR on 03/26/2008 20:09:09
Steph will be on Dan Abrams' show tonight (MSNBC @ 9:00 EDT)
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:30:05
Have a good time. You will need to relax. And then you can be the blogger that you can be.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:30:05
Quote by Raine::hug: Don't forget the sunscreen! HAve fun Mala! you so very deserve it!Quote by wickedpam:
Alright guys - I'm off on to Clearwater tomorrow - back on Sunday so I'll be back here on Monday. Have a great weekend, I'm gonna miss you guys! :hug:
Have a good time. You will need to relax. And then you can be the blogger that you can be.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:34:08
livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:34:08
Sorry I've been quiet this afternoon. My computer has been a bit slow.
And what the fuck is the deal with Hillary cozying up to Richard Melon Sciafe? The man who said she murdered Vince Foster?
And what the fuck is the deal with Hillary cozying up to Richard Melon Sciafe? The man who said she murdered Vince Foster?
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:46:56
livingonli on 03/26/2008 20:46:56
MSNBC is actually talking about the prospect of a second shooter in the RFK assassination.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 21:05:37
Raine on 03/26/2008 21:05:37
Just a reminder for those that can, if you hear the Maddow trumpets, tell us what time!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 21:07:09
livingonli on 03/26/2008 21:07:09
I'll be at work so I can't help there.
And I better leave now.
And I better leave now.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 21:07:42
Raine on 03/26/2008 21:07:42
I was just reading this story that McCAin's Voctory in IRaq speech wsa interrupted .... by the surge failure.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 22:22:19
livingonli on 03/26/2008 22:22:19
Oh, the irony.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 22:43:07
livingonli on 03/26/2008 22:43:07
Ed Schultz is doing "Shoot the Messenger" this coming Monday.
Ted Rall will be doing April 21st which will be the first day of my vacation. Maybe I will finally be able to go.
Ted Rall will be doing April 21st which will be the first day of my vacation. Maybe I will finally be able to go.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 23:06:00
Raine on 03/26/2008 23:06:00
Well the good dr. seems to have left the studio she will be on either KO or Dan tonite....
OK, wait, Momma is on Dan, so Rach must be on KO. Check. UNLESS>>>> :D
OK, wait, Momma is on Dan, so Rach must be on KO. Check. UNLESS>>>> :D
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 23:07:13
very cool!
CORRECTION:
Rach is STILL on the Air.
Raine on 03/26/2008 23:07:13
Quote by livingonli:
Ed Schultz is doing "Shoot the Messenger" this coming Monday.
Ted Rall will be doing April 21st which will be the first day of my vacation. Maybe I will finally be able to go.
CORRECTION:
Rach is STILL on the Air.
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:26:17
livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:26:17
If she's on MSNBC, it's the third hour that she takes off handing it over to David Bender.
Comment by Raine on 03/26/2008 23:27:56
Raine on 03/26/2008 23:27:56
Still lsitening to the Dr. So far... nuthin'... :kickcan:
Comment by 
shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:33:37
shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:33:37
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:35:58
I had the idea of making it an audicon. It would come in handy sometimes (especially amongst the old Unfiltered Fans).
livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:35:58
Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
I had the idea of making it an audicon. It would come in handy sometimes (especially amongst the old Unfiltered Fans).
Comment by shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:39:23
Do you need me to email it to you?
shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:39:23
Quote by livingonli:Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
I had the idea of making it an audicon. It would come in handy sometimes (especially amongst the old Unfiltered Fans).
Do you need me to email it to you?
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:40:47
ugh! -- in what form? -- cuz we've all been "on the case"!!! :)
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:40:47
Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
ugh! -- in what form? -- cuz we've all been "on the case"!!! :)
Comment by shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:42:02
It's an mp3
shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:42:02
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
ugh! -- in what form? -- cuz we've all been "on the case"!!! :)
It's an mp3
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:45:03
Awesome! -- new toy - and the hunt can be called off!!
Thank you shelaghc!
Be bewy bewy quiet - we're huntin' AUDICONS!
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:45:03
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
ugh! -- in what form? -- cuz we've all been "on the case"!!! :)
It's an mp3
Awesome! -- new toy - and the hunt can be called off!!
Thank you shelaghc!
Be bewy bewy quiet - we're huntin' AUDICONS!
Comment by livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:48:03
Actually, e-mail it to Shane-O.
livingonli on 03/26/2008 23:48:03
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by livingonli:Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
I had the idea of making it an audicon. It would come in handy sometimes (especially amongst the old Unfiltered Fans).
Do you need me to email it to you?
Actually, e-mail it to Shane-O.
Comment by shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:48:16
shelaghc on 03/26/2008 23:48:16
I need an email address to send it to since I don't have any kind of status on the blog other than to add comments.
Comment by Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:50:59
shanemichaelfarnan@yahoo.com
Shane-O on 03/26/2008 23:50:59
Quote by shelaghc:
I need an email address to send it to since I don't have any kind of status on the blog other than to add comments.
shanemichaelfarnan@yahoo.com
Comment by Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:02:16
Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:02:16
KO listenin' to Raine!!!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:20:07
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:20:07
We are starting up th eKO machine ::: al Franken::: right ka-now....
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:21:48
:ireland: would be wanting to post blog entries?
I would be more than happy to set you up!
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:21:48
Quote by shelaghc:
I need an email address to send it to since I don't have any kind of status on the blog other than to add comments.
I would be more than happy to set you up!
Comment by Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:25:22
He did a tease at the top re: Clinton's sleep deprivation vs. answering the 3 am call - and is now doing a segment on it...
Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:25:22
Quote by Raine:
We are starting up th eKO machine ::: al Franken::: right ka-now....
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
He did a tease at the top re: Clinton's sleep deprivation vs. answering the 3 am call - and is now doing a segment on it...
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:30:30
Maybe KO really DOES listen to Momma!!!
I saw the teaser... I felt a little proud!
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:30:30
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:
We are starting up th eKO machine ::: al Franken::: right ka-now....
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
He did a tease at the top re: Clinton's sleep deprivation vs. answering the 3 am call - and is now doing a segment on it...
I saw the teaser... I felt a little proud!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:31:54
:ireland: would be wanting to post blog entries?
I would be more than happy to set you up!
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:31:54
Quote by shelaghc:
I need an email address to send it to since I don't have any kind of status on the blog other than to add comments.
I would be more than happy to set you up!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:32:36
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:32:36
I posted this story about the Clinton Donors warning *cough* threatening* Nancy pelosi on the MB.
It is blackmail pure and simple.
It is blackmail pure and simple.
Comment by Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:35:37
You should feel that way! -- It wasn't just funny, but an astute observation - no wonder KO picked up on it. If you aren't too uncomfortable with it, could I send your clip from this am along with the KO teaser to Momma - she always loves evidence that Keith listens to her... :)
Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:35:37
Quote by Raine:Maybe KO really DOES listen to Momma!!!Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:
We are starting up th eKO machine ::: al Franken::: right ka-now....
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
He did a tease at the top re: Clinton's sleep deprivation vs. answering the 3 am call - and is now doing a segment on it...
I saw the teaser... I felt a little proud!
You should feel that way! -- It wasn't just funny, but an astute observation - no wonder KO picked up on it. If you aren't too uncomfortable with it, could I send your clip from this am along with the KO teaser to Momma - she always loves evidence that Keith listens to her... :)
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:38:30
Please do!
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:38:30
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:Maybe KO really DOES listen to Momma!!!Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:
We are starting up th eKO machine ::: al Franken::: right ka-now....
:ireland: that is awesome tha tyou have that sound!
What did KO say?
He did a tease at the top re: Clinton's sleep deprivation vs. answering the 3 am call - and is now doing a segment on it...
I saw the teaser... I felt a little proud!
You should feel that way! -- It wasn't just funny, but an astute observation - no wonder KO picked up on it. If you aren't too uncomfortable with it, could I send your clip from this am along with the KO teaser to Momma - she always loves evidence that Keith listens to her... :)
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:40:01
:rofl:
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:40:01
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by shelaghc:
I already have the trumpet fanfare. Why would you need to record it?
ugh! -- in what form? -- cuz we've all been "on the case"!!! :)
It's an mp3
Awesome! -- new toy - and the hunt can be called off!!
Thank you shelaghc!
Be bewy bewy quiet - we're huntin' AUDICONS!
Comment by Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:43:36
Shane-O on 03/27/2008 00:43:36
OK - will do - I gotta sign off, to give my computer the space it needs to record at 9 pm. I'll be back later - be well all!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 00:47:18
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 00:47:18
Taking a break from the political today, we are watching "Helter Skelter" the director's cut with extra Manson Crazy Berries.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 00:48:10
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 00:48:10
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 00:48:27
Raine on 03/27/2008 00:48:27
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:01:39
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:01:39
Seriously...we're going to talk about what the candidate's SPOUSES said!?!?!
:star: is getting hypertension as we speak.
:star: is getting hypertension as we speak.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:03:47
You can take the gal out of New York but you can't take the Noo Yawk out of the gal.
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:03:47
Quote by Raine:
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
You can take the gal out of New York but you can't take the Noo Yawk out of the gal.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:05:51
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:05:51
Wow. Watching Dan.... Bill Clintion signed the Dayton PEace Accord 2 months before Hillary Clinton went to Bosnia?
I should have known that perhaps, but that is a stunning revalation.
Tsk tsk...
I should have known that perhaps, but that is a stunning revalation.
Tsk tsk...
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:06:53
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:06:53
Rachel seems to have a semi-permanent post on Keith's show, usually around 5:35 or so. She has hinted to something in the works on her radio show. I hope MSNBC gives her a show soon. She's so well-spoken and she knows her sh*t! 
Time to change the channel. Uncle Pat is screeching on the TV machine.
Time to change the channel. Uncle Pat is screeching on the TV machine.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:07:33
Here :star:ling Darlin'... :martini:
on the house.
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:07:33
Quote by starling310:
Seriously...we're going to talk about what the candidate's SPOUSES said!?!?!
:star: is getting hypertension as we speak.
on the house.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:10:43
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:10:43
The ideal World Series - The Yankees and The Red Sox. They know how to give good baseball.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:10:52
Whatever!
The Yankees suck! They suck more than an Orreck, a Kirby, an Electrolux, and a Dyson all put together. They suck balls, they suck rhino, they suck harder than Pamela Anderson did in her sex tape with Tommy Lee. The SUCK! SUCK SUCK SUCK.
End of rant.
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:10:52
Quote by Raine:
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
Whatever!
The Yankees suck! They suck more than an Orreck, a Kirby, an Electrolux, and a Dyson all put together. They suck balls, they suck rhino, they suck harder than Pamela Anderson did in her sex tape with Tommy Lee. The SUCK! SUCK SUCK SUCK.
End of rant.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:11:28
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:11:28
So what exactly did Michelle say that was SOOOO wrong?
This IS the America that we live intoday. We are lucky enough as a group of people tha thave come together over ALL differences... but hell... I have seen the America of the North Georgia mountains. and upsate NY.. There are SERIOUS problems in this country...
AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PAT BUCHANAN TALKING ABOUT RACE?!?!?!?!? He should be saying tha tMichelle should thank the White man for the fact that she said something that the white man hated.
This IS the America that we live intoday. We are lucky enough as a group of people tha thave come together over ALL differences... but hell... I have seen the America of the North Georgia mountains. and upsate NY.. There are SERIOUS problems in this country...
AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PAT BUCHANAN TALKING ABOUT RACE?!?!?!?!? He should be saying tha tMichelle should thank the White man for the fact that she said something that the white man hated.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:12:52
Indeed!
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:12:52
Quote by IzzyBitz:
The ideal World Series - The Yankees and The Red Sox. They know how to give good baseball.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:13:40
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:13:40
It looks like that drive from Atlanta to DC is going to be very interesting indeed. :P
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:14:37
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:14:37
Pat Buchanan should just do his TV appearances in a white sheet.
Comment by TriSec on 03/27/2008 01:15:04
But...we had one of those already. October, 2004.
The right team even won!
TriSec on 03/27/2008 01:15:04
Quote by IzzyBitz:
The ideal World Series - The Yankees and The Red Sox. They know how to give good baseball.
But...we had one of those already. October, 2004.
The right team even won!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:15:47
So tell us Abotu that JAcksonville team?
:D
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:15:47
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
Whatever!
The Yankees suck! They suck more than an Orreck, a Kirby, an Electrolux, and a Dyson all put together. They suck balls, they suck rhino, they suck harder than Pamela Anderson did in her sex tape with Tommy Lee. The SUCK! SUCK SUCK SUCK.
End of rant.
:D
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:18:11
The Marlins and D-Rays both claim Jacksonville in their territory.
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:18:11
Quote by Raine:So tell us Abotu that JAcksonville team?Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
Whatever!
The Yankees suck! They suck more than an Orreck, a Kirby, an Electrolux, and a Dyson all put together. They suck balls, they suck rhino, they suck harder than Pamela Anderson did in her sex tape with Tommy Lee. The SUCK! SUCK SUCK SUCK.
End of rant.
:D
The Marlins and D-Rays both claim Jacksonville in their territory.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:18:27
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:18:27
Ok, did I just hear PAt Buchana say *My Main Man*???
Hello pat, the 70's called, they want thier cliches back.
Hello pat, the 70's called, they want thier cliches back.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:21:22
I thought he was stuck in the 50's. Sounds like he's trying to catch up.
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:21:22
Quote by Raine:
Ok, did I just hear PAt Buchana say *My Main Man*???
Hello pat, the 70's called, they want thier cliches back.
I thought he was stuck in the 50's. Sounds like he's trying to catch up.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:22:21
The Jacksonville Suns.
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:22:21
Quote by Raine:So tell us Abotu that JAcksonville team?Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
DID y'all here that?
KO's fave baseball team is the Yankees... neener neener neener.... Me and Ko sitting in a tree, fans of the ya-ah-kees! :nana:
Whatever!
The Yankees suck! They suck more than an Orreck, a Kirby, an Electrolux, and a Dyson all put together. They suck balls, they suck rhino, they suck harder than Pamela Anderson did in her sex tape with Tommy Lee. The SUCK! SUCK SUCK SUCK.
End of rant.
:D
The Jacksonville Suns.
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:23:55
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:23:55
Quote by Raine:Here :star:ling Darlin'... :martini:Quote by starling310:
Seriously...we're going to talk about what the candidate's SPOUSES said!?!?!
:star: is getting hypertension as we speak.
on the house.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:24:46
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:24:46
The Yankees Bosox series albeit hard to watch was very uplifitng... I would never damn the BoSox for that... They earned it!!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:26:29
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:26:29
ok so how much more of this PopArt backdrop hell that is called the Dan Abrams show so I have to go thru to see Momma??
(I love pop art, tho, NOT when used on an alleged news magazine... Roy Lichtenstien must be rolling in his grave!!!)
(I love pop art, tho, NOT when used on an alleged news magazine... Roy Lichtenstien must be rolling in his grave!!!)
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:28:18
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:28:18
:drink: YUp! Hiccup!
Why is Anderson saying *dude* omg!
Why is Anderson saying *dude* omg!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:29:49
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:29:49
I myself have been wondering these things about Chelsea Clinton as well, she is 27 years old, why does she get a different set of rules than anyone else?
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:31:02
They tend to stick her at the end of the show. If worse comes to worse, you can wait until Shane-O posts the clip.
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:31:02
Quote by Raine:
ok so how much more of this PopArt backdrop hell that is called the Dan Abrams show so I have to go thru to see Momma??
(I love pop art, tho, NOT when used on an alleged news magazine... Roy Lichtenstien must be rolling in his grave!!!)
They tend to stick her at the end of the show. If worse comes to worse, you can wait until Shane-O posts the clip.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:31:46
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:31:46
I mused. I promise I will clean this mess up...
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:34:27
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:34:27
Wow, am I seeing this wrong? Was Chelsea being completely sacrcastic or was it just me?
MOMMA!!!
MOMMA!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:36:01
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 01:36:01
Raine no love for the Suns I see. harumph
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:36:20
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:36:20
YES Chelsea SHOULD be speaking to and taking questions FROM the press.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:36:27
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:36:27
The Knicks are actually winning a game, but that's only because they are playing the Heat. :P
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:36:39
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:36:39
Sticky private area!!! :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:37:06
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:37:06
oooOOOOooooHHH... Momma with the INTERVIEW question.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:38:14
OMG!!! you're right!!! I totally didNOT pick up on that one!!!
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:38:14
Quote by starling310:
Sticky private area!!! :rofl:
I totally didNOT pick up on that one!!!
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:38:19
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:38:19
I do not care if Chelsea talks to the press. I care that the press asks the candidates ASK ABOUT THE ISSUES! I know. . . I am 
today.
today.
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:39:23
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:39:23
This is just all fluff, as far as I am concerned.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:39:26
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:39:26
Chelsea is CAMPAIGNING!~!! Did we NOT hear hours from the clinton campaign saying that this is politics? Did not bill clinton say that if you don't wanna get dirty don't play politics? Harumph.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:40:26
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:40:26
BTW... Momma fixed those bangs!!! They are so whispy, so sexy... SO not BANGY!!!
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:41:50
Fr enough. I sorta think that The guys original question was a fair enough one, tho... I think that was a fair question.
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:41:50
Quote by starling310:
I do not care if Chelsea talks to the press. I care that the press asks the candidates ASK ABOUT THE ISSUES! I know. . . I am
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:42:27
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:42:27
What did Momma say that she's being scolded for? Did I miss something?
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:42:47
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:42:47
WOW... what word did Momma use?
Did I miss something???
I must have... I think she is getting fored from msnbc again... WHAT DID I MISS???
Did I miss something???
I must have... I think she is getting fored from msnbc again... WHAT DID I MISS???
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:43:28
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:43:28
:star:
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:43:33
I am inclined to agree with you. I just think all of this qualifying as news is ludicrous.
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:43:33
Quote by Raine:Fr enough. I sorta think that The guys original question was a fair enough one, tho... I think that was a fair question.Quote by starling310:
I do not care if Chelsea talks to the press. I care that the press asks the candidates ASK ABOUT THE ISSUES! I know. . . I am
I am inclined to agree with you. I just think all of this qualifying as news is ludicrous.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:46:27
At least some of us care about what's important.
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:46:27
Quote by starling310:
I do not care if Chelsea talks to the press. I care that the press asks the candidates ASK ABOUT THE ISSUES! I know. . . I am
At least some of us care about what's important.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:47:26
Yeah, you probably are right about that.
I have just gotten so tired of the whole *hands off* Chelsea thing, perhaps I lost the forest for the trees.
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:47:26
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:Fr enough. I sorta think that The guys original question was a fair enough one, tho... I think that was a fair question.Quote by starling310:
I do not care if Chelsea talks to the press. I care that the press asks the candidates ASK ABOUT THE ISSUES! I know. . . I am
I am inclined to agree with you. I just think all of this qualifying as news is ludicrous.
I have just gotten so tired of the whole *hands off* Chelsea thing, perhaps I lost the forest for the trees.
Comment by starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:49:23
Yeah, you probably are right about that.
I have just gotten so tired of the whole *hands off* Chelsea thing, perhaps I lost the forest for the trees.
starling310 on 03/27/2008 01:49:23
Quote by Raine:
I have just gotten so tired of the whole *hands off* Chelsea thing, perhaps I lost the forest for the trees.
It's all good. Have a drink on me. :martini:
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:49:44
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:49:44
Ok, I CANNOT watch this story.
And hell LArry king has WWE wrestlers?!?!? WTF? WHY does the news end at 9 pm? (AFTER KO)
IT is like the news gets cancelled on cable after a certain time. Pisses me off.... HArumph.
And hell LArry king has WWE wrestlers?!?!? WTF? WHY does the news end at 9 pm? (AFTER KO)
IT is like the news gets cancelled on cable after a certain time. Pisses me off.... HArumph.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:50:57
twist my arm will ya? :rofl:
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:50:57
Quote by starling310:
It's all good. Have a drink on me. :martini:
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:51:38
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:51:38
Stephanie said pimping out when referring to Chelsea. Jeebus. The MSNBC does not like that term. Is she drunk or just kinda stupid?! 
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:53:57
oooOOOOh. Yeah I missed that!
:::Stephanie's Mom::: oh dear
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:53:57
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Stephanie said pimping out when referring to Chelsea. Jeebus. The MSNBC does not like that term. Is she drunk or just kinda stupid?!
:::Stephanie's Mom::: oh dear
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:54:25
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:54:25
Dan's show is very TMZish. I don't like it. Talk about beating dead horses. These are such non-issues.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:54:30
Randi said the news was cancelled a couple of years ago. Check if you get the BBC News on BBC America at 10 PM otherwise it's Daily Show and Colbert Report (which are repeats this week).
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:54:30
Quote by Raine:
Ok, I CANNOT watch this story.
And hell LArry king has WWE wrestlers?!?!? WTF? WHY does the news end at 9 pm? (AFTER KO)
IT is like the news gets cancelled on cable after a certain time. Pisses me off.... HArumph.
Randi said the news was cancelled a couple of years ago. Check if you get the BBC News on BBC America at 10 PM otherwise it's Daily Show and Colbert Report (which are repeats this week).
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:55:54
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:55:54
Oh criminy, Momma really said that?
*sigh*
What is left for her? Larry King? that right wing tooly guy on Headline news?
*sigh*
What is left for her? Larry King? that right wing tooly guy on Headline news?
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:56:37
livingonli on 03/27/2008 01:56:37
Well that insures that Hillary will never be on Momma's show I wonder what :clown:'s reaction will be in the morning?
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:56:46
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 01:56:46
Feh. Top Chef at the top of the howah to cleanse the soul and a for good measure.
for good measure.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 01:57:05
I agree. I feel like Rita Cosby should be his co-host most of the time.
Raine on 03/27/2008 01:57:05
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Dan's show is very TMZish. I don't like it. Talk about beating dead horses. These are such non-issues.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 02:02:03
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 02:02:03
You can also get the BBC news on the PBS. Me likee. Lewis Black on the Comedy Central tonight as well. I need some laughs after watching the Dan Abrams train wreck.
Comment by TriSec on 03/27/2008 02:03:12
TriSec on 03/27/2008 02:03:12
Say, I'm watching KO at 10:00 for the first time evah...
Is this live, or is it Memorex?
Is this live, or is it Memorex?
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 02:05:47
I actually have BBC World so I get BBC News 24-7. :D
livingonli on 03/27/2008 02:05:47
Quote by IzzyBitz:
You can also get the BBC news on the PBS. Me likee. Lewis Black on the Comedy Central tonight as well. I need some laughs after watching the Dan Abrams train wreck.
I actually have BBC World so I get BBC News 24-7. :D
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 02:05:50
The stories are still VERY relavant!
Raine on 03/27/2008 02:05:50
Quote by TriSec:
Say, I'm watching KO at 10:00 for the first time evah...
Is this live, or is it Memorex?
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 02:13:58
Raine on 03/27/2008 02:13:58
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 02:48:46
Mondobubba on 03/27/2008 02:48:46
We are watching Beavis and Butthead on the DVD mosheen.
Comment by Raine on 03/27/2008 02:57:20
Raine on 03/27/2008 02:57:20
Comment by Shane-O on 03/27/2008 03:03:45
Shane-O on 03/27/2008 03:03:45
It's going to take some time to put up the segment from MSNBC tonight - the YouTubes is doing "site maintenance" - therefore, I gotta wait till they're done to upload. Hopefully within the next couple of hours.... 
Raine - I sent the KO clip and your clip to Chris - I cc'd you on it.
Raine - I sent the KO clip and your clip to Chris - I cc'd you on it.
Comment by livingonli on 03/27/2008 03:10:34
livingonli on 03/27/2008 03:10:34
I have to make sure I get up to catch the beginning of Momma's show. Sounds very interesting indeed.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 03:15:10
One of my guilty pleasures! Larry King is beginning to look like Beavis. He makes funny Beavis faces when he's listening to his guests.
IzzyBitz on 03/27/2008 03:15:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
We are watching Beavis and Butthead on the DVD mosheen.
One of my guilty pleasures! Larry King is beginning to look like Beavis. He makes funny Beavis faces when he's listening to his guests.