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Symbiosis
Author: BobR
Date: 05/16/2008 12:14:23
sym·bi·o·sis [sim-bee-oh-sis, -bahy-] –noun,
1. Biology. a. the living together of two dissimilar organisms, as in mutualism, commensalism, amensalism, or parasitism.
2. Psychiatry. a relationship between two people in which each person is dependent upon and receives reinforcement, whether beneficial or detrimental, from the other.
3. Psychoanalysis. the relationship between an infant and its mother in which the infant is dependent on the mother both physically and emotionally.
4. any interdependent or mutually beneficial relationship between two persons, groups, etc.
There are many examples of symbiosis in the natural world. There's the crocodile bird that eats parasites on the skin of the croc, and in turn the croc doesn't eat the bird. There's the clown fish which protects sea anemones from predators, and in turn the anemone provides shelter to the clown fish from its predators. There's the e-coli bacteria in our digestive tract that help us digest our food, while we provide them with a place to live and food to eat.
Within politics there are symbiotic relationships as well. The most obvious one is between political parties and news organizations.
The various political machines provide sensationlist fodder to the news organizations, and the news organizations provide an outlet for their talking points. This has served the Republicans well over the last number of years as political operatives essentially wrote the stories that the news reported. It seemed like the TV news channels never bothered to do any research. They never called Republicans on their outlandish assertions. They never verified the stories were true. If any dared step out of line, then they were dealt with (think: Dan Rather and the planted false documents). In turn, TV News became a profit center.
Slowly, however, the tables are turning. The news organizations are beginning to realize that they need to unhitch their wagon from the Republicans. With the Republicans increasingly becoming perona non grata within the populist political arena, the relationship has turned sour. We are seeing the news go after Republicans (and their apologists in talk radio) and call them on their bullshit more and more. A perfect example of this is this clip from Hardball (which Raine posted in the comments and on the board yesterday):
Two years ago you would never see a Republican talking point questioned. They would have let the "nazi" part slide, and discussed why Obama was "appeasing" Hamas. Now?... now they are being asked to put up or shut up. The crocodile has learned to clean itself. Let's hope it remains as self-sufficient when the Democrats take power so that we don't become the thing we've loathed - a parasite providing digestive gas to a fickle host.
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:25:45
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:25:45
Mornin' Everybody! :coffee:
Kevin "I flunked High School History" James is a freakin' moron - what an idiot!
I kept wondering if Dubya could have answered Tweety's question any better - I think not. He likely would have been just as moronic and stumbly as KJ - ugh. I bet some flunky got her/his ass chewed out for not googling Neville Chamberlain before the show. What a maroon
Great post BobR!
Cheers,
mfaye
Kevin "I flunked High School History" James is a freakin' moron - what an idiot!
I kept wondering if Dubya could have answered Tweety's question any better - I think not. He likely would have been just as moronic and stumbly as KJ - ugh. I bet some flunky got her/his ass chewed out for not googling Neville Chamberlain before the show. What a maroon
Great post BobR!Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 12:37:52
jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 12:37:52
OMG AWESOME.
Chris is chuckling because he's thinking "this guy makes me look reasonable. sweet."
Kevin James = total loon. and taken to school by Matthews, that's just pathetic.
(and look at how much the Air America guy was enjoying it!)
Chris is chuckling because he's thinking "this guy makes me look reasonable. sweet."
Kevin James = total loon. and taken to school by Matthews, that's just pathetic.
(and look at how much the Air America guy was enjoying it!)
Comment by 
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 12:39:34
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 12:39:34
Great post, BobR! As I watched this exchange on the TeeVee yesterday, I was so hoping someone would post on this today!
To second Faye: Kevin James -
To second Faye: Kevin James -
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:46:00
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:46:00
I love it- Gov Strickland (D - OH) just said, "Who in the world listens to George W. Bush anymore?" I'm catching the tail end of Bill Press who usually leaves me cold, but this morning he's engaged in a rousing conversation with Gov. Strickland - go Gov. go :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:48:08
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 12:48:08
Mornin' Shane-O, JD, BobR & Ms. Raine - :coffee:
Happy Friday everybody -TGIF - I'll say not a moment too soon.
Cheers,
mfaye
Happy Friday everybody -TGIF - I'll say not a moment too soon.
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by right wing hater on 05/16/2008 12:59:23
Good Morning Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to Forum
Highlights/Lowlights:
- Larisa Alexandrovna: All the President's Nazis (real and imagined): An Open Letter to Bush
- Democratic led House passes GI Bill, Bush threatens Veto...wow he just can't stop 'supporting the troops' The GOP, Hypocrisy's bitch
- GOP/Republicans #1 strategy for fall, a failure (gee...imagine that): Condescending to Voters, Playing to Perceived Racial Fears Does Not Work
- GOP Racism/Republican Stupidity on full display: GOP Internal Memo about Obama refers to 'tar baby'
- Swift Boat Vet Operative Vows To "Attack Obama Viciously"
Gee....speaking of worthless & bad rubbish....can someone please swift boat these idiots? How about we start up a 527 named "Americans against swift boat idiots and their propaganda"?
Daily Reading has been posted to Forum
Highlights/Lowlights:
- Larisa Alexandrovna: All the President's Nazis (real and imagined): An Open Letter to Bush
- Democratic led House passes GI Bill, Bush threatens Veto...wow he just can't stop 'supporting the troops' The GOP, Hypocrisy's bitch
- GOP/Republicans #1 strategy for fall, a failure (gee...imagine that): Condescending to Voters, Playing to Perceived Racial Fears Does Not Work
- GOP Racism/Republican Stupidity on full display: GOP Internal Memo about Obama refers to 'tar baby'
- Swift Boat Vet Operative Vows To "Attack Obama Viciously"
Gee....speaking of worthless & bad rubbish....can someone please swift boat these idiots? How about we start up a 527 named "Americans against swift boat idiots and their propaganda"?
Comment by 
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:08:18
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:08:18
Good morning!
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/16/2008 13:11:04
TriSec on 05/16/2008 13:11:04
Morning, folks. Only time for a cuppa mud before heading out to the flying field today. We've got some huge fires going on, we're going to need the big iron today.
Toodles! :sprint:
Toodles! :sprint:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 05/16/2008 13:11:34
Scoopster on 05/16/2008 13:11:34
Morning all! :coffee:
After some messing around with different configs and whatnot, I've picked out the parts I'd like to put into my new computer.
Only problem is... I'm about 200 bucks over what I budgeted.
After some messing around with different configs and whatnot, I've picked out the parts I'd like to put into my new computer.
Only problem is... I'm about 200 bucks over what I budgeted.
Comment by right wing hater on 05/16/2008 13:12:59
Hey Everyone...sorry...to rehash...but everyone needs to read this...
Like that list I posted yesterday of Bush & Hitler actions...
MUST READ:
Larisa Alexandrovna: All the President's Nazis (real and imagined): An Open Letter to Bush - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/all-the-presidents-nazis_b_102022.html
A taste: I am ashamed of you Mr. Bush. I am ashamed of those who applauded your political porn played out against the hallowed backdrop of the Holocaust. I am ashamed of those reporters with you, who between them could not muster the moral courage to call you out on your ugly rhetoric and ask you about your own family Nazi ties. You are, sir, the most abhorrent human being of my lifetime. I dare say, in the lifetime of this nation.
Like that list I posted yesterday of Bush & Hitler actions...
MUST READ:
Larisa Alexandrovna: All the President's Nazis (real and imagined): An Open Letter to Bush - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/all-the-presidents-nazis_b_102022.html
A taste: I am ashamed of you Mr. Bush. I am ashamed of those who applauded your political porn played out against the hallowed backdrop of the Holocaust. I am ashamed of those reporters with you, who between them could not muster the moral courage to call you out on your ugly rhetoric and ask you about your own family Nazi ties. You are, sir, the most abhorrent human being of my lifetime. I dare say, in the lifetime of this nation.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 13:13:07
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:13:07
Comment by 
Random on 05/16/2008 13:14:40
Random on 05/16/2008 13:14:40
Kevin James scares me.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 13:19:57
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:19:57
McCain was talking to hama before he was against it.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 13:23:59
no no...McCain was talking to Humus, not Hamas.
It's a simple mistake, but nothing wrong with it.
Random on 05/16/2008 13:23:59
Quote by Raine:
McCain was talking to hama before he was against it.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
no no...McCain was talking to Humus, not Hamas.
It's a simple mistake, but nothing wrong with it.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 13:24:21
Oh gee and look... there is video of it too...
Wow, what an apeeaser.
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:24:21
Quote by Raine:
McCain was FOR talking to hama before he was against it.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
Oh gee and look... there is video of it too...
Wow, what an apeeaser.
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 13:27:04
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 13:27:04
Kevin James
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 13:46:11
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 13:46:11
I gotta come back in from the cold fugly world that is the SMS live blog - SMH for Shillary is working my last nerve. Can I get some love here, please?
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 13:48:18
:hug: Oh faye...
:coffee:
and if you GOTTA go back... take this! 
But the love is always here, even if we don't all always agree!
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:48:18
Quote by m-hadley:
I gotta come back in from the cold fugly world that is the SMS live blog - SMH for Shillary is working my last nerve. Can I get some love here, please?
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
:coffee:
and if you GOTTA go back... take this! But the love is always here, even if we don't all always agree!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:49:58
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:49:58
Morning :hug:
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 13:52:22
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 13:52:22
Thanks Raine & Mala,
I actually got a "GFY" from the Shillary supporter this morning (and she accused me of being childish
) Love you both right back. :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
I actually got a "GFY" from the Shillary supporter this morning (and she accused me of being childish
) Love you both right back. :DCheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:53:26
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:53:26
GFY?
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 13:57:21
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 13:57:21
Um - me. I read the opinion 
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:57:24
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 13:57:24
Thom Hartman?
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 13:58:29
Raine on 05/16/2008 13:58:29
HEre is what I think. If the Republicans have to go Godwin BEFORE the CONVENTIONS... they are really desparate.
They have nothing. Bush emboldens the Democratic party.
They have nothing. Bush emboldens the Democratic party.
Comment by 
BobR on 05/16/2008 14:00:52
BobR on 05/16/2008 14:00:52
morning, folks... :coffee:
This is how I feel about having to be in this dreary office on such a beautiful day:
This is how I feel about having to be in this dreary office on such a beautiful day:
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:02:04
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:02:04
GFY = Go F*ck Yourself - nice, eh?
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:03:36
go F*ck Yourself?
Wow.
This was one of the reasons why I told Randon to click my name, some people over there are just too nice to swill among such trolly behavior.
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:03:36
Quote by wickedpam:
GFY?
Wow.
This was one of the reasons why I told Randon to click my name, some people over there are just too nice to swill among such trolly behavior.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:06:55
You feel like Wilford Brimley?
What you need is a bowl of Quaker Oatmeal™!
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:06:55
Quote by BobR:
morning, folks... :coffee:
This is how I feel about having to be in this dreary office on such a beautiful day:
What you need is a bowl of Quaker Oatmeal™!
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 14:07:29
What a B.
If that's their best arguement, they got nothing.
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 14:07:29
Quote by m-hadley:
GFY = Go F*ck Yourself - nice, eh?
Cheers,
mfaye
What a B.
If that's their best arguement, they got nothing.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:08:34
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:08:34
Quote by Shane-O:
Um - me. I read the opinion
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:10:08
exactly
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:10:08
Quote by Raine:Quote by Shane-O:
Um - me. I read the opinion
exactly
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 14:12:09
BobR on 05/16/2008 14:12:09
Is it just me or this one of the worst sound bits they have?
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:13:28
I've always wondered if it has caused any listener seizures...
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:13:28
Quote by BobR:
Is it just me or this one of the worst sound bits they have?
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 14:17:01
BobR on 05/16/2008 14:17:01
Did he just say "syphilized" or "civilized"?? :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 14:18:24
Steph and I had a mind-meld :lol:
BobR on 05/16/2008 14:18:24
Quote by BobR:
Did he just say "syphilized" or "civilized"?? :rofl:
Steph and I had a mind-meld :lol:
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 14:20:48
Random on 05/16/2008 14:20:48
I don't think Clay likes me.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:21:37
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:21:37
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
Did he just say "syphilized" or "civilized"?? :rofl:
Steph and I had a mind-meld :lol:
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:27:10
Yep, the Beee-otch is as washed-up and delusional as her candidate - they got nothin' - you're correct about that Thanks for the support - you rock 
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:27:10
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by m-hadley:
GFY = Go F*ck Yourself - nice, eh?
Cheers,
mfaye
What a B.
If that's their best arguement, they got nothing.
Yep, the Beee-otch is as washed-up and delusional as her candidate - they got nothin' - you're correct about that
Thanks for the support - you rock :hug:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:28:49
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 14:28:49
I wonder if it is available on iTunes...?
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:29:40
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:29:40
Oh.. Nazi's and Bin Laden in less than a week?
Can you smell the ---I was gonna say the Nepalm --- but with McCain in the Race, I am gonna say,
Don't you love the smell of BenGay in the morning?
They are really getting desparate...
Can you smell the ---I was gonna say the Nepalm --- but with McCain in the Race, I am gonna say,
Don't you love the smell of BenGay in the morning?
They are really getting desparate...
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:30:58
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:30:58
What I truly am concerned about regarding the SMS blog is what it will look like come the GE.
It is going to become a troll magnet.
It is going to become a troll magnet.
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/16/2008 14:33:05
livingonli on 05/16/2008 14:33:05
Good morning all. Overslept and I have to take my car to get fixed today. Standard maintenance and I have to find out the one thing that's been freaky since the trip back from DC.
Talk to y'all in a bit from the Wi-Fi.
Talk to y'all in a bit from the Wi-Fi.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:40:18
Everytime a Winger tries to mimic that STUPID McCain Talking point about Hama... show them this video, and print them out a copy of this article.
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:40:18
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
McCain was FOR talking to hama before he was against it.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
Oh gee and look... there is video of it too...
Wow, what an apeeaser.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 14:44:14
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 14:44:14
OMG!! Velveeta just saw the Chris Mathews video. oh. MY. GOD!!!!
:thud:
I can see the exact moment in the video where Mathews goes "why have I been giving these RW tools the upper words in the past".
WOW!
AND.......... in gossipy celeb news. Ellen (who goes by one-name only in the gay community) is getting MARRIED!! She'll be dropping the bomb on her show today!
:thud:
I can see the exact moment in the video where Mathews goes "why have I been giving these RW tools the upper words in the past".
WOW!
AND.......... in gossipy celeb news. Ellen (who goes by one-name only in the gay community) is getting MARRIED!! She'll be dropping the bomb on her show today!
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 14:45:44
Kinda suprised it's not a huge one now...
Random on 05/16/2008 14:45:44
Quote by Raine:
What I truly am concerned about regarding the SMS blog is what it will look like come the GE.
It is going to become a troll magnet.
Kinda suprised it's not a huge one now...
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 14:45:50
jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 14:45:50
YAY for Ellen! (and Portia!)
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:46:26
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:46:26
It's just a matter of time before Momma is the celebrity on Dancing with the Stars.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:48:09
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:48:09
Well I think it may be on the talk shows this afternoon, Random... PLUS, I suspect KO will talk about it in detail.
And congrats to Ellen and Portia!
And congrats to Ellen and Portia!
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:49:30
Mornin' Velveeta!
Yeah for Ellen and Portia :D
Go Grrrls go :)
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:49:30
Quote by velveeta jones:
OMG!! Velveeta just saw the Chris Mathews video. oh. MY. GOD!!!!
:thud:
I can see the exact moment in the video where Mathews goes "why have I been giving these RW tools the upper words in the past".
WOW!
AND.......... in gossipy celeb news. Ellen (who goes by one-name only in the gay community) is getting MARRIED!! She'll be dropping the bomb on her show today!
Mornin' Velveeta!
Yeah for Ellen and Portia :D
Go Grrrls go :)
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:52:01
Raine,
I was thinking the same thing - just a matter of time before Momma puts on her dancing shoes and gets down on "Dancin' wit da Stars" :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 14:52:01
Quote by Raine:
It's just a matter of time before Momma is the celebrity on Dancing with the Stars.
Raine,
I was thinking the same thing - just a matter of time before Momma puts on her dancing shoes and gets down on "Dancin' wit da Stars" :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 14:52:48
Random on 05/16/2008 14:52:48
I've got nutin...
Comment by 
HoneyBearKelly on 05/16/2008 14:55:38
HoneyBearKelly on 05/16/2008 14:55:38
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 14:56:43
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 14:56:43
HBK :hug:
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 14:58:43
Raine on 05/16/2008 14:58:43
John McCain on the campaign trail, thinking he is kicking Obama's arse in the polls:
You smell that? Do you smell that? BenGay, my friends. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of BenGay in the morning.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:02:17
Hola! 
As for the html... copy the link, then click on the "link" button, paste it, then you can add the text you want to say...
OR... you can do what you did!
It's so nice to see you!
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:02:17
Quote by HoneyBearKelly:
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
As for the html... copy the link, then click on the "link" button, paste it, then you can add the text you want to say...
OR... you can do what you did!
It's so nice to see you!
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:04:30
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:04:30
YEs, Cindy McCain is not JUST a pillpopper but a thieving one too!
Comment by HoneyBearKelly on 05/16/2008 15:04:47
Doh!!! I didn't even see that link button.
HoneyBearKelly on 05/16/2008 15:04:47
Quote by Raine:Hola!Quote by HoneyBearKelly:
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
As for the html... copy the link, then click on the "link" button, paste it, then you can add the text you want to say...
OR... you can do what you did!
It's so nice to see you!
Doh!!! I didn't even see that link button.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 15:06:38
hey HBK! :hug:
that's quite a story...
BobR on 05/16/2008 15:06:38
Quote by HoneyBearKelly:
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
hey HBK! :hug:
that's quite a story...
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:11:13
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:11:13
Momma has a bidet?
And a central vacuum system.
And a central vacuum system.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 15:12:49
Welcome HBK :D
Good to see you here at the bloggie Hope you are well !
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 15:12:49
Quote by HoneyBearKelly:
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
Welcome HBK :D
Good to see you here at the bloggie
Hope you are well !Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:16:54
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:16:54
Momma's Bidet if we allow a ® to get in office...
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:18:51
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:18:51
:( wow... Jodie has been with her wife for an awful long time. That is surprising news.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:19:59
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:19:59
PENIS museum?
Screw paris... I am all over ICELAND... :D
Screw paris... I am all over ICELAND... :D
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 15:20:18
BobR on 05/16/2008 15:20:18
Damn - if I was home, I could post a picture of myself standing in front of the Icelandic penis museum.
Sadly, it was closed when I was there.
Sadly, it was closed when I was there.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:21:33
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:21:33
Peni' shrink as men age?!?!
Comment by Shane-O on 05/16/2008 15:23:05
Shane-O on 05/16/2008 15:23:05
Designated driver 
just took over... did he have to hit the dump button there...?
just took over... did he have to hit the dump button there...?
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 15:23:16
I think that's just him coming up with an excuse not to do it.
no puns intended.
BobR on 05/16/2008 15:23:16
Quote by Raine:
Peni' shrink as men age?!?!
I think that's just him coming up with an excuse not to do it.
no puns intended.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:26:33
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:26:33
Bobber, you went to the outside of the Penis Museum?
I would have found a way to get you inside.
I would have found a way to get you inside.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 15:27:34
KY?
BobR on 05/16/2008 15:27:34
Quote by Raine:
Bobber, you went to the outside of the Penis Museum?
I would have found a way to get you inside.
KY?
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:29:27
I coulda slipped you right in!.
:P
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:29:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Bobber, you went to the outside of the Penis Museum?
I would have found a way to get you inside.
KY?
:P
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:32:40
I have a feeling the things that get said in that studio OFF air might make me --- ME --- Blush. And trust me, it takes a lot to make me blush.
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:32:40
Quote by Shane-O:
Designated driver
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:35:29
livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:35:29
I'm at the car dealer while my car is in the shop. A dreary, rainy day here.
I just watched Chris Matthews school that right-wing tool It's about time Tweety got on the ball. Maybe the rest of the media will stop buying the right-wing bullshit and just leave it on Fox where it belongs (and hopefully they will fade away tool).
I just watched Chris Matthews school that right-wing tool It's about time Tweety got on the ball. Maybe the rest of the media will stop buying the right-wing bullshit and just leave it on Fox where it belongs (and hopefully they will fade away tool).
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:36:43
I don't like him either. You have much better company here.
livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:36:43
Quote by Random:
I don't think Clay likes me.
I don't like him either. You have much better company here.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:39:15
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:39:15
According to DemConWatch....
Pete Stark just endorsed Barack Obama.
Needed to win:
Obama: 124
Clinton: 309
Edwards still has 11 delegates outstanding, and there are a total 421 remaining delegates.
This does NOT include Michigan and Florida. With those: the number is 453.
(edit to correct my bad typing... the number is 309. SORRY! )
Pete Stark just endorsed Barack Obama.
Needed to win:
Obama: 124
Clinton: 309
Edwards still has 11 delegates outstanding, and there are a total 421 remaining delegates.
This does NOT include Michigan and Florida. With those: the number is 453.
(edit to correct my bad typing... the number is 309. SORRY! )
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:41:22
livingonli on 05/16/2008 15:41:22
And believe it or not, my car is done already. So, I will be heading out back on the road.
God, I wish I had a station that carried Steph live. :kickcan:
All those satellite radio channels and all I get is a delayed broadcast of hour 3 at 8 PM.
God, I wish I had a station that carried Steph live. :kickcan:
All those satellite radio channels and all I get is a delayed broadcast of hour 3 at 8 PM.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:46:54
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:46:54
Without MI and Fla the remaining pledged Delegates are 189 and Supers 232
IT is important to note that KY and OR have 125 pledged Delegates up for grabs.
IT is important to note that KY and OR have 125 pledged Delegates up for grabs.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:48:12
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:48:12
MAth and KY killed the blog!
Comment by m-hadley on 05/16/2008 15:56:09
m-hadley on 05/16/2008 15:56:09
DC Kevin - enough already - blah, blah, blah 
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 15:56:09
Raine on 05/16/2008 15:56:09
I will flash anyone who has a John McCain Bumper sticker on thier car.
I have only had to do it once. and it wasn't even in Georgia!
I have only had to do it once. and it wasn't even in Georgia!
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 15:57:44
<-- salt helmet
:thud:
TriSec on 05/16/2008 15:57:44
<-- salt helmet :thud:
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 15:58:33
:buys McCain sticker:
TriSec on 05/16/2008 15:58:33
Quote by Raine:
I will flash anyone who has a John McCain Bumper sticker on thier car.
I have only had to do it once. and it wasn't even in Georgia!
:buys McCain sticker:
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:02:58
Hell! We weren't even out of NoVA when it happened!
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:02:58
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
I will flash anyone who has a John McCain Bumper sticker on thier car.
I have only had to do it once. and it wasn't even in Georgia!
:buys McCain sticker:
Hell! We weren't even out of NoVA when it happened!
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 16:04:04
Raine on 05/16/2008 16:04:04
Why is everyone saying that this is an OBL tape? the only people confirming it is the WH.
Is the MEdia doing the bidding of *ush operatives again?
Is the MEdia doing the bidding of *ush operatives again?
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:05:43
Haven't we had this discussion before? I seem to remember this topic on another blog with that MGM fella.
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:05:43
Quote by Raine:
PENIS museum?
Screw paris... I am all over ICELAND... :D
Haven't we had this discussion before? I seem to remember this topic on another blog with that MGM fella.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:13:02
Why does he hate America?
Morning all. Mondo is on vacation! There will be much loafing.
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 16:13:02
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
McCain was FOR talking to hama before he was against it.
Of course that was 2 years ago, so grampy prolly doesn't remember it. What a hypocrite.
Oh gee and look... there is video of it too...
Wow, what an apeeaser.
Why does he hate America?
Morning all. Mondo is on vacation! There will be much loafing.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 16:18:04
Momma brought it up like it was a new story...
BobR on 05/16/2008 16:18:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
Haven't we had this discussion before? I seem to remember this topic on another blog with that MGM fella.
Momma brought it up like it was a new story...
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 16:28:32
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 16:28:32
UGH! My internet(s) keeping going up and down - it's like a bad audio roller coaster...
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 16:42:53
Mondo on Vacation!
Enjoy it dahlink! you deserve it!
Raine on 05/16/2008 16:42:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning all. Mondo is on vacation! There will be much loafing.
Mondo on Vacation!
Enjoy it dahlink! you deserve it!
Comment by 
starling310 on 05/16/2008 16:49:22
starling310 on 05/16/2008 16:49:22
89 comments!? You guys are slackin'.
A quote from today's London Financial Times:
A quote from today's London Financial Times:
A year that began with people asking whether oil prices would finally reach $100 a barrel is seeing some traders already betting on when it will hit $200 a barrel.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 16:57:06
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 16:57:06
Heard that $200/barrel thing last week - I was shocked to hear them say $7/gallon by this time next year. :thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/16/2008 17:02:24
wickedpam on 05/16/2008 17:02:24
How embrassing is it for our Pres to beg the Saudi's to pump more oil and them say no? Of course their gonna say no, you idiot they're making over 125/barrel!
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 17:12:05
TriSec on 05/16/2008 17:12:05
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 17:14:34
Yeah I've heard that too. George Soros was on the News Hour earlier this week. He was talking about how money has gone out of housing and in to oil, causing a bubble. I was saying this weeks ago. I predict that the price of oil will collapse with in the next six months.
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 17:14:34
Quote by starling310:
89 comments!? You guys are slackin'.
A quote from today's London Financial Times:A year that began with people asking whether oil prices would finally reach $100 a barrel is seeing some traders already betting on when it will hit $200 a barrel.
Yeah I've heard that too. George Soros was on the News Hour earlier this week. He was talking about how money has gone out of housing and in to oil, causing a bubble. I was saying this weeks ago. I predict that the price of oil will collapse with in the next six months.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 17:21:31
about 2 weeks before the election?
BobR on 05/16/2008 17:21:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yeah I've heard that too. George Soros was on the News Hour earlier this week. He was talking about how money has gone out of housing and in to oil, causing a bubble. I was saying this weeks ago. I predict that the price of oil will collapse with in the next six months.
about 2 weeks before the election?
Comment by 
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 17:27:22
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 17:27:22
I just got an email from Hillary Clinton asking me to tell the DNC to count the votes in Michigan and Florida.
: snerk :
How should I word it so the delegates are split fairly since Obama's name wasn't on the ballot in Michigan and, while neither of them actively campaigned in Florida, Hillary certainly had large fund raising events that certainly impacted the number of votes she received.
: snerk :
How should I word it so the delegates are split fairly since Obama's name wasn't on the ballot in Michigan and, while neither of them actively campaigned in Florida, Hillary certainly had large fund raising events that certainly impacted the number of votes she received.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 17:31:52
Yeah sumpin like dat. But it will totally market driven. :rofl:
Mondobubba on 05/16/2008 17:31:52
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Yeah I've heard that too. George Soros was on the News Hour earlier this week. He was talking about how money has gone out of housing and in to oil, causing a bubble. I was saying this weeks ago. I predict that the price of oil will collapse with in the next six months.
about 2 weeks before the election?
Yeah sumpin like dat. But it will totally market driven. :rofl:
Comment by shelaghc on 05/16/2008 17:38:47
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 17:38:47
Okay, no one jumped in with a suggestion so I tried my hand at composing something.
How's this sound:
And now I'm off again.
Late for picking up my mother.
How's this sound:
To the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee:
Michigan and Florida deserve a voice in the Democratic Presidential primary. Obviously those who made the decision to break the rules and hold their primaries early were wrong. But the people in their respective states should not suffer for that. Nor should the rest of the Democratic party.
Therefore, the only fair thing would be to split the delegates evenly between both the candidates. Senator Obama's name was not on the Michigan ballot and, although neither candidate openly campaigned in Florida, Senator Clinton held large fundraising events that certainly impacted the number of votes she received.
The fairest thing for all parties is to split the delegates evenly. In this way, Michigan and Florida voters are not disenfranchised and neither candidate has an unfair advantage.
Thank you for your time.
And now I'm off again.
Late for picking up my mother.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:01:12
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:01:12
I think that Michigan Dem party actually came up with a solution, to which the HRC campaign immediatly shot down. (does anyone have that link? I never bookmarked it)
As far as Florida, I think a 50-50 spit is fair.
As far as Florida, I think a 50-50 spit is fair.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:02:22
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:02:22
So what if Saudi ARabia is being truthful? What if Oil inventories are fine?
Who would then be to blame for the high fuel costs???? Just a pondering....
Who would then be to blame for the high fuel costs???? Just a pondering....
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:09:15
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:09:15
:ireland: I know you went out, but here
is an article that just came out a few hours ago.
IT talks about the solution they came up with a few weeks ago.
It also says they are OVER HRC and her desire to seat those delagtes, basically.
TRanslation from Michigan: HRC: We are over you.
is an article that just came out a few hours ago.
IT talks about the solution they came up with a few weeks ago.
It also says they are OVER HRC and her desire to seat those delagtes, basically.
TRanslation from Michigan: HRC: We are over you.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:25:03
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:25:03
Does anyone want to take bets on HRC suspending her campaign today?
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 18:30:09
Wha?
Are you suggesting that our fine American oil companies are artificially inflating the price and gouging the American consumer?
TriSec on 05/16/2008 18:30:09
Quote by Raine:
So what if Saudi ARabia is being truthful? What if Oil inventories are fine?
Who would then be to blame for the high fuel costs???? Just a pondering....
Wha?
Are you suggesting that our fine American oil companies are artificially inflating the price and gouging the American consumer?
Comment by Scoopster on 05/16/2008 18:31:27
Scoopster on 05/16/2008 18:31:27
Urgh.. the day drags on and on and onando....
OMG IT'S HBK!! :hug:
the day drags on and on and onando....Quote by HoneyBearKelly:
Hi.
Long time etc..
Hope the day finds you all well.
I wanted to share an old story but one that needs to be told.
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/full
Sorry. I don't know what the html code is for linkies on this blog.
OMG IT'S HBK!! :hug:
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:38:39
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:38:39
Earlier, I mentioned an Obama Smackdown... here is the youtuberey of it.
And now, my friends, you get to see the FIRST MCCain Campaign meltdown of the General Election...
From TPM:
Hysreical... you watch that video and tell me WHERE he was hysterical, and tell me WHEN Obama ever... EVER said we don't have enemies.
This is the best they have.
They got nothing.
And now, my friends, you get to see the FIRST MCCain Campaign meltdown of the General Election...
From TPM:
"It was remarkable to see Barack Obama's hysterical diatribe in response to a speech in which his name wasn't even mentioned. These are serious issues that deserve a serious debate, not the same tired partisan rants we heard today from Senator Obama.
"Senator Obama has pledged to unconditionally meet with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- who pledges to wipe Israel off the map, denies the Holocaust, sponsors terrorists, arms America's enemies in Iraq and pursues nuclear weapons. What would Senator Obama talk about with such a man?
"It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don't have enemies. But that is not the world we live in, and until Senator Obama understands that, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe."
This is the best they have.
They got nothing.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:46:40
I must hate america.
But you must admit, it dovetails nicely to the idea of an oil bubble that Mondo mentioned.
I am no fan of the Saudi's but I am thinking mroe and more that *ushco™ is trying to make us all think that Saudi is the bad guy in all of this.
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:46:40
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
So what if Saudi ARabia is being truthful? What if Oil inventories are fine?
Who would then be to blame for the high fuel costs???? Just a pondering....
Wha?
Are you suggesting that our fine American oil companies are artificially inflating the price and gouging the American consumer?
But you must admit, it dovetails nicely to the idea of an oil bubble that Mondo mentioned.
I am no fan of the Saudi's but I am thinking mroe and more that *ushco™ is trying to make us all think that Saudi is the bad guy in all of this.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:55:33
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:55:33
PLUS:
Flat.Out.Lie
Senator Obama has pledged to unconditionally meet with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Flat.Out.Lie
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 18:59:13
Raine on 05/16/2008 18:59:13
From Poltico:
A Florida Democratic Party source says that, by their count, at least 8 of the state's 13 Edwards delegates are switching to Obama, and none to Hillary.
The delegates don't, currently, count, but that could change.
UPDATE: [Avi] This all-but guarantees that Obama will clinch the pledged delegate majority -- including Michigan and Florida -- on Tuesday.
===========================================
Is HRC REALLY sure she wants to push Michigan and Florida now?
A Florida Democratic Party source says that, by their count, at least 8 of the state's 13 Edwards delegates are switching to Obama, and none to Hillary.
The delegates don't, currently, count, but that could change.
UPDATE: [Avi] This all-but guarantees that Obama will clinch the pledged delegate majority -- including Michigan and Florida -- on Tuesday.
===========================================
Is HRC REALLY sure she wants to push Michigan and Florida now?
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:07:44
TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:07:44
Hey! it's 3:06!!
:bouncer:
:bounce: :bouncer:
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:boobs2:
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:bounce: :bouncer:
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:boobs2:
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 19:09:00
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!
:bounce:
:bounce:
:boobs2:
:boobs2:
:penis:
:boobs:
:martini:
:boobs:
:penis:
:boobs2: :boobs2:
:bounce: :bounce:
BOUNCE!!!
BobR on 05/16/2008 19:09:00
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!
:bounce:
:bounce::boobs2:
:boobs2::penis:
:boobs:
:martini:
:boobs:
:penis:
:boobs2:
:boobs2::bounce:
:bounce:BOUNCE!!!
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 19:10:42
IT's Friday ya Bastahds!!!
:boobs:
:martini: 
:martini:
:penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2:
:boobs2:
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:boobs2:
BOUNCE!!!
:boobs: :boobs2:
Raine on 05/16/2008 19:10:42
IT's Friday ya Bastahds!!!
:boobs:
:martini:
:martini::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2::penis: :boobs2:
:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:BOUNCE!!!
:boobs: :boobs2:
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 19:12:32
Raine on 05/16/2008 19:12:32
:D Nice bouncing there boys... 
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 19:13:46
Raine on 05/16/2008 19:13:46
Excellent use of the there, bobber...
I would know....
there, bobber... I would know....
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:16:49
TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:16:49
Say, I doubt the airline industry is one that would engender any sympathy, but you think it's tough driving out there? Check out the rise in avgas prices that may spell the end of the industry as we know it. From Ask the Pilot:
...Everybody knows the airline business is cyclical. The boom-bust cycle has been playing out since before deregulation. What's different, this time, is how potentially devastating this latest scorching might be, and how quickly it followed on the heels of the post-Sept. 11 industry wipeout. The recovery period was brief, to say the least.
The culprit, obviously, is the price of petroleum. Jim May, president of the Air Transport Association, says that soaring fuel prices are "the worst economic shock since 9/11, and, possibly, one that is worse." The cost of aviation kerosene, i.e., jet fuel, has gone up 70 percent in the past year alone. A week ago oil hit $125 a barrel, and in some corners of the globe a gallon of Jet-A is selling for upward of $6. Five years ago, the average cost per gallon was less than 86 cents. Ten years ago, it was 51 cents. I remember analysts sucking their teeth when the price topped a dollar. Such anxiety seems quaint. In an ATA press release, Dave Emerson, head of the Bain & Co. airline consulting firm, said, "The reality is that there's no U.S. airline that has a sustainable business model if $117-a-barrel oil prices endure." That was $8 per gallon ago, with no end in sight.
According to the International Air Transport Association, the past year's increases have already impacted the world's airlines to the tune of $65 billion. How bad will it get? Nobody knows. There are those who believe that oil will eventually stabilize and begin a backward slide. Considering supply and demand, the fuel-thirsty economies of India and China, etc., I am not one of those people. There's a fair chance that oil will climb past $200 a barrel, at which point the airlines will face massive realignment and consolidation. Google "peak oil" and behold the Armageddon some expect...
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 19:33:02
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 19:33:02
I was watching Ellen make her announcement! *sigh* I asked Aunt if'n she wanted to go to Cali and get hitched........... but what's the point. Its only legal in Cali. *sigh*
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 19:36:29
Raine on 05/16/2008 19:36:29
Holy crap.
SCOOP! where are you??
PNAC has been suspened. It is gone.
Google it for yourself, please, tell me if it happens to you as well.
SCOOP! where are you??
PNAC has been suspened. It is gone.
Google it for yourself, please, tell me if it happens to you as well.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 19:39:38
I thought states were required to recognize marriages from other states...
BobR on 05/16/2008 19:39:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
I was watching Ellen make her announcement! *sigh* I asked Aunt if'n she wanted to go to Cali and get hitched........... but what's the point. Its only legal in Cali. *sigh*
I thought states were required to recognize marriages from other states...
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:41:53
TriSec on 05/16/2008 19:41:53
I believe there is a Supreme Court case pending about that, Bob.
It has to do with a same-sex couple legally married in MA but trying to get divorced in RI, where they currently live.
It has to do with a same-sex couple legally married in MA but trying to get divorced in RI, where they currently live.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 19:47:10
Until the federal Gov recognizes Same sex marriages states do not have to.
Raine on 05/16/2008 19:47:10
Quote by BobR:Quote by velveeta jones:
I was watching Ellen make her announcement! *sigh* I asked Aunt if'n she wanted to go to Cali and get hitched........... but what's the point. Its only legal in Cali. *sigh*
I thought states were required to recognize marriages from other states...
Until the federal Gov recognizes Same sex marriages states do not have to.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 19:59:55
IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 19:59:55
Happy Fridee Ya Bastids! 
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 20:00:21
From the U.S Constitution:
Article IV
Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
BobR on 05/16/2008 20:00:21
Quote by Raine:
Until the federal Gov recognizes Same sex marriages states do not have to.
From the U.S Constitution:
Article IV
Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 20:02:52
IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 20:02:52
That dancing penis DOES have a funky downbeat!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 20:05:55
CA might have residency requirements, anyway, so it might not even be a valid marriage there unless you live there for a while.
And states vary on whether they will apply FF&C to same sex marriages -- the Constitutional arguments support FF&C (of course), but as we know, THAT's why some are pushing for the amendment...
ps - I'm watching Ellen now!
jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 20:05:55
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Until the federal Gov recognizes Same sex marriages states do not have to.
From the U.S Constitution:
Article IV
Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
CA might have residency requirements, anyway, so it might not even be a valid marriage there unless you live there for a while.
And states vary on whether they will apply FF&C to same sex marriages -- the Constitutional arguments support FF&C (of course), but as we know, THAT's why some are pushing for the amendment...
ps - I'm watching Ellen now!
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 20:09:55
The Constitution is so last week. I think Bush sent it to the processing plant to make toilet paper. Why do you hate America, BobR?
IzzyBitz on 05/16/2008 20:09:55
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Until the federal Gov recognizes Same sex marriages states do not have to.
From the U.S Constitution:
Article IV
Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
The Constitution is so last week. I think Bush sent it to the processing plant to make toilet paper. Why do you hate America, BobR?
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:11:20
livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:11:20
Ugh, home at last. I went to lunch and stopped someplace. It's just too dreary out there. Since I don't have to go to work, I am staying in tonight. 
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 20:16:23
TriSec on 05/16/2008 20:16:23
Curious George publisher considering lawsuit
Over those derogatory Obama shirts down near the Atlanta contingent...
Over those derogatory Obama shirts down near the Atlanta contingent...
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 20:18:52
That's why I think all states should recognize same-sex marriages from other states until a Federal law exempts them from having to recognize them (I suppose that's the gist of the case that Tri might be referring to).
BobR on 05/16/2008 20:18:52
Quote by jd_in_ny:
CA might have residency requirements, anyway, so it might not even be a valid marriage there unless you live there for a while.
And states vary on whether they will apply FF&C to same sex marriages -- the Constitutional arguments support FF&C (of course), but as we know, THAT's why some are pushing for the amendment...
ps - I'm watching Ellen now!
That's why I think all states should recognize same-sex marriages from other states until a Federal law exempts them from having to recognize them (I suppose that's the gist of the case that Tri might be referring to).
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 20:19:48
The most disturbing part of that story is that they SOLD OUT of the T-shirts...
BobR on 05/16/2008 20:19:48
Quote by TriSec:
Curious George publisher considering lawsuit
Over those derogatory Obama shirts down near the Atlanta contingent...
The most disturbing part of that story is that they SOLD OUT of the T-shirts...
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:29:40
Well, haven't you always said that there are enough of those backward hicks down in GA. Maybe not as many in the ATL, but I know outside of the ATL there are many of them.
livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:29:40
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Curious George publisher considering lawsuit
Over those derogatory Obama shirts down near the Atlanta contingent...
The most disturbing part of that story is that they SOLD OUT of the T-shirts...
Well, haven't you always said that there are enough of those backward hicks down in GA. Maybe not as many in the ATL, but I know outside of the ATL there are many of them.
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 20:38:02
Random on 05/16/2008 20:38:02
*hanging upside down from the rafters*
Hello everyone
Hello everyone
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 20:40:50
Apparently, there's a vote for an amendment down here in Florida banning the same sex marriage in November.
Random on 05/16/2008 20:40:50
Quote by BobR:Quote by jd_in_ny:
CA might have residency requirements, anyway, so it might not even be a valid marriage there unless you live there for a while.
And states vary on whether they will apply FF&C to same sex marriages -- the Constitutional arguments support FF&C (of course), but as we know, THAT's why some are pushing for the amendment...
ps - I'm watching Ellen now!
That's why I think all states should recognize same-sex marriages from other states until a Federal law exempts them from having to recognize them (I suppose that's the gist of the case that Tri might be referring to).
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 20:42:15
Images of a crazed Spiderman!
Heya Random :)
Raine on 05/16/2008 20:42:15
Quote by Random:
*hanging upside down from the rafters*
Hello everyone
Heya Random :)
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:46:04
livingonli on 05/16/2008 20:46:04
Hi Random. How's it going?
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 20:47:38
How'd you know who my fav super-hero is?
never mind that. I be poppin in and out while working on a cool pet project.
Random on 05/16/2008 20:47:38
Quote by Raine:Images of a crazed Spiderman!Quote by Random:
*hanging upside down from the rafters*
Hello everyone
Heya Random :)
How'd you know who my fav super-hero is?
never mind that. I be poppin in and out while working on a cool pet project.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 20:48:30
Raine on 05/16/2008 20:48:30
MoveOn has a new ad... it is worth the watch, and worth passing on to friends.
John McCain: Fire Charlie Black...
John McCain: Fire Charlie Black...
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 20:49:41
Havin loads of fun, reason why...see my previous post
Random on 05/16/2008 20:49:41
Quote by livingonli:
Hi Random. How's it going?
Havin loads of fun, reason why...see my previous post
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 20:50:58
Raine on 05/16/2008 20:50:58
FUCK YOU JOHN MCAIN.
(sorry)
He just said that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would appease Iran in thier "desire to lauch a nuclear attack"( <---LIE) on Israel to an NRA conference in Kentucky.
(sorry)
He just said that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would appease Iran in thier "desire to lauch a nuclear attack"( <---LIE) on Israel to an NRA conference in Kentucky.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:03:36
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:03:36
Oh Gads, what did the NRA do now!
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 21:03:41
Raine on 05/16/2008 21:03:41
Thank you Mr. Ellison.
6 minutes of your life that is very worth your time.
6 minutes of your life that is very worth your time.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:08:14
IDIOT!! RACIST!!
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:08:14
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Republican Mike Huckabee responded to an offstage noise during his speech to the National Rifle Association by suggesting it was Barack Obama diving to the floor because someone had aimed a gun at him.
Hearing a loud noise and interrupting his speech, Huckabee said: "That was Barack Obama. He just tripped off a chair. He's getting ready to speak and somebody aimed a gun at him and he — he dove for the floor."
There were only a few murmurs in the crowd after the remark.
The Obama campaign had no comment.
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 21:09:46
livingonli on 05/16/2008 21:09:46
And I thought Ted Nugent blew up a deer with a rocket launcher and ate what's left of the carcass.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 21:12:35
This seems like a smear-by-association ad. Not sure I like it...
BobR on 05/16/2008 21:12:35
Quote by Raine:
MoveOn has a new ad... it is worth the watch, and worth passing on to friends.
John McCain: Fire Charlie Black...
This seems like a smear-by-association ad. Not sure I like it...
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:18:16
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:18:16
:clap:
:bow:
Mr. Ellison!!
:bow:
Mr. Ellison!!
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 21:27:09
Random on 05/16/2008 21:27:09
Takin a break. How is everyones?
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:31:14
Tired. Didn't sleep well, and I've been working (again) on putting in my flagstone sidewalk.
velveeta jones on 05/16/2008 21:31:14
Quote by Random:
Takin a break. How is everyones?
Tired. Didn't sleep well, and I've been working (again) on putting in my flagstone sidewalk.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 21:35:50
actually, there's another wrinkle. FF&C doesn't apply if the law in question is totally "against public policy" in the receiving state. The states that don't want to recognize same sex marriages argue that it is so against public policy, and so potentially damaging to the state that they shouldn't have to recognize it just because the other state does. ...and that might be the subject of that case.
jd_in_ny on 05/16/2008 21:35:50
Quote by Random:Apparently, there's a vote for an amendment down here in Florida banning the same sex marriage in November.Quote by BobR:Quote by jd_in_ny:
CA might have residency requirements, anyway, so it might not even be a valid marriage there unless you live there for a while.
And states vary on whether they will apply FF&C to same sex marriages -- the Constitutional arguments support FF&C (of course), but as we know, THAT's why some are pushing for the amendment...
ps - I'm watching Ellen now!
That's why I think all states should recognize same-sex marriages from other states until a Federal law exempts them from having to recognize them (I suppose that's the gist of the case that Tri might be referring to).
actually, there's another wrinkle. FF&C doesn't apply if the law in question is totally "against public policy" in the receiving state. The states that don't want to recognize same sex marriages argue that it is so against public policy, and so potentially damaging to the state that they shouldn't have to recognize it just because the other state does. ...and that might be the subject of that case.
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 21:37:09
Veleeta, sorries.
Random on 05/16/2008 21:37:09
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:
Takin a break. How is everyones?
Tired. Didn't sleep well, and I've been working (again) on putting in my flagstone sidewalk.
Veleeta, sorries.
Comment by shelaghc on 05/16/2008 21:41:35
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 21:41:35
Just got back from picking my Mom up for the weekend.
How's everyone this fine Friday?
How's everyone this fine
Friday?
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 21:52:25
hm....must...not...stare...
What? oh right. I'm good
Random on 05/16/2008 21:52:25
Quote by shelaghc:
Just got back from picking my Mom up for the weekend.
How's everyone this fine
hm....must...not...stare...
What? oh right. I'm good
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 21:55:36
Oh I have no problem with it. The same way I had NO problem calling out MArk Penn for lobbying for Columbia when Hillary was saying she was against it.
Black and Penn worked for the same firm.
AND if McCain is willing to hire this guy as his campaign strategist, I will call him out the same way I did Mark Penn. Hillary was right to let him go. I credit her campaign for that.
Raine on 05/16/2008 21:55:36
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
MoveOn has a new ad... it is worth the watch, and worth passing on to friends.
John McCain: Fire Charlie Black...
This seems like a smear-by-association ad. Not sure I like it...
Black and Penn worked for the same firm.
AND if McCain is willing to hire this guy as his campaign strategist, I will call him out the same way I did Mark Penn. Hillary was right to let him go. I credit her campaign for that.
Comment by shelaghc on 05/16/2008 21:55:45
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 21:55:45
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 22:02:03
Raine on 05/16/2008 22:02:03
I am off in a little while to go see our Friends NEW home! They just signed the papers today!
I love them, I love them so much I am going to the SUBURBS... :shudder:::
:rofl:
I love them, I love them so much I am going to the SUBURBS... :shudder:::
:rofl:
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 22:04:56
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
Random on 05/16/2008 22:04:56
Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
Comment by Raine on 05/16/2008 22:10:59
Raine on 05/16/2008 22:10:59
CUL8TR everyone! 
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 22:13:49
livingonli on 05/16/2008 22:13:49
Have fun, Raine and Bob.
Comment by BobR on 05/16/2008 22:21:36
The ad may be saying "Tell McCain to fire Black", but what it's really doing is trying to draw a connection between McCain and the despicable acts of those brutal dictators via the scumbag lobbyists that provided them PR. It's the same tactic that McCain and Hillary have used to try to smear Obama with guilt-by-association campaigns. It's swiftboating.
I consider Obama to be above it, and for MoveOn to do this on his behalf indicates to me that they don't really get that he's not that kind of candidate.
I really don't think that McCain or his supporters care that his campaign staff worked PR those despots. So who is this really for? What's the real motive for the ad?
I'd prefer to see ads that attack McCain directly for his policies, words, and actions. There's certainly plenty of material there. These sort of tangential 3 degrees-of-separation smear attacks are unbefittting our party.
BobR on 05/16/2008 22:21:36
Quote by Raine:
Oh I have no problem with it. The same way I had NO problem calling out MArk Penn for lobbying for Columbia when Hillary was saying she was against it.
Black and Penn worked for the same firm.
AND if McCain is willing to hire this guy as his campaign strategist, I will call him out the same way I did Mark Penn. Hillary was right to let him go. I credit her campaign for that.
The ad may be saying "Tell McCain to fire Black", but what it's really doing is trying to draw a connection between McCain and the despicable acts of those brutal dictators via the scumbag lobbyists that provided them PR. It's the same tactic that McCain and Hillary have used to try to smear Obama with guilt-by-association campaigns. It's swiftboating.
I consider Obama to be above it, and for MoveOn to do this on his behalf indicates to me that they don't really get that he's not that kind of candidate.
I really don't think that McCain or his supporters care that his campaign staff worked PR those despots. So who is this really for? What's the real motive for the ad?
I'd prefer to see ads that attack McCain directly for his policies, words, and actions. There's certainly plenty of material there. These sort of tangential 3 degrees-of-separation smear attacks are unbefittting our party.
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 22:25:33
I only got this
Wether to believe Izzy...i dunno
Random on 05/16/2008 22:25:33
Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
I only got this
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Shelaghc - The Official Gender Bender of the Four Freedoms Blog.
Wether to believe Izzy...i dunno
Comment by shelaghc on 05/16/2008 22:42:31
ShelaghC is not and never has been a "sir."
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 22:42:31
Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
ShelaghC is not and never has been a "sir."
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 23:01:24
you seem angry.
Random on 05/16/2008 23:01:24
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
ShelaghC is not and never has been a "sir."
you seem angry.
Comment by livingonli on 05/16/2008 23:07:34
livingonli on 05/16/2008 23:07:34
I can vouch for her or anyone else who was at the DC meet-up can vouch that ShelaghC is a female.
Comment by shelaghc on 05/16/2008 23:10:25
Nope, not at all. I was highly amused.
shelaghc on 05/16/2008 23:10:25
Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
ShelaghC is not and never has been a "sir."
you seem angry.
Nope, not at all. I was highly amused.
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 23:34:48
Oh...*sulks and pouts*
Me feel bad
Random on 05/16/2008 23:34:48
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:
Hi Random
Did you finally figure out my little smiley play from yesterday?
Nope...I'm not that quick.
*whimpers* pwease tells me.
ShelaghC is not and never has been a "sir."
you seem angry.
Nope, not at all. I was highly amused.
Oh...*sulks and pouts*
Me feel bad
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 23:36:17
Where's our barkeep?
Did we re-hire Mandy when that "other website" foundered? If not, we should!
Set 'em up and bring me a straw! :thud:
TriSec on 05/16/2008 23:36:17
Where's our barkeep?Did we re-hire Mandy when that "other website" foundered? If not, we should!
Set 'em up and bring me a straw! :thud:
Comment by TriSec on 05/16/2008 23:38:45
TriSec on 05/16/2008 23:38:45
Ya know, just once in my lifetime I'd like to see a candidate blow off the NRA...
"I've never owned a gun, I don't like them, and I'm not a hunter, nor do I itend to pretend that I was just to pick up an endorsement..."
"I've never owned a gun, I don't like them, and I'm not a hunter, nor do I itend to pretend that I was just to pick up an endorsement..."
Comment by Random on 05/16/2008 23:42:21
Is it possible to like guns, but not like shooting them...or killing in general. just like...weapons...
Random on 05/16/2008 23:42:21
Quote by TriSec:
Ya know, just once in my lifetime I'd like to see a candidate blow off the NRA...
"I've never owned a gun, I don't like them, and I'm not a hunter, nor do I itend to pretend that I was just to pick up an endorsement..."
Is it possible to like guns, but not like shooting them...or killing in general. just like...weapons...
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/17/2008 00:25:28
jd_in_ny on 05/17/2008 00:25:28
McCain is either incoherent, a flip-flopper, or pandering...
why choose? McCain is ALL THREE
why choose? McCain is ALL THREE
Comment by shelaghc on 05/17/2008 00:31:46
shelaghc on 05/17/2008 00:31:46
Rachel filling in for Keith!
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 00:32:30
I am perfectly happy with the size of my penis so I don't need a gun or a hummer.
livingonli on 05/17/2008 00:32:30
Quote by TriSec:
Ya know, just once in my lifetime I'd like to see a candidate blow off the NRA...
"I've never owned a gun, I don't like them, and I'm not a hunter, nor do I itend to pretend that I was just to pick up an endorsement..."
I am perfectly happy with the size of my penis so I don't need a gun or a hummer.
Comment by Shane-O on 05/17/2008 00:35:22
And, he sounds a lot like Al Gore in his SNL skit from two years ago (almost to the day).
I couldn't quite get the Gore clips to line up - grr!
Shane-O on 05/17/2008 00:35:22
Quote by jd_in_ny:
McCain is either incoherent, a flip-flopper, or pandering...
why choose? McCain is ALL THREE
I couldn't quite get the Gore clips to line up - grr!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/17/2008 00:55:53
jd_in_ny on 05/17/2008 00:55:53
that was good, Shane-O!
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 00:55:55
Random on 05/17/2008 00:55:55
*fallen asleep*
Comment by Shane-O on 05/17/2008 01:09:57
Thanks jd! -- And I've heard that McCain is actually going to be on SNL tomorrow... 
Shane-O on 05/17/2008 01:09:57
Quote by jd_in_ny:
that was good, Shane-O!
Comment by Shane-O on 05/17/2008 01:12:57
Shane-O on 05/17/2008 01:12:57
Yikes!
Comment by TriSec on 05/17/2008 01:17:24
TriSec on 05/17/2008 01:17:24
Sox have been rained out...Celts are back and forth with Cleveland in the 2nd quarter...
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:25:08
livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:25:08
I am watching Doctor Who. The Sontarans are back.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 01:31:04
I missed the first half hour...what i miss, what i miss?
Random on 05/17/2008 01:31:04
Quote by livingonli:
I am watching Doctor Who. The Sontarans are back.
I missed the first half hour...what i miss, what i miss?
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:33:52
livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:33:52
They are largely setting up since this is a two-part episode. Martha summoned the Doctor back to Earth for a UNIT assignment investigating a factory where the Sontarans have been replacing the human works as part of their latest plan to invade the earth.
This is the first appearance of the Sontarans since 1985's The Two Doctors.
This is the first appearance of the Sontarans since 1985's The Two Doctors.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/17/2008 01:36:05
velveeta jones on 05/17/2008 01:36:05
Un- fucking- believable!! FUCK HUCKABEE!! Racist ASSHOLE!! He should be taken out and beaten to a PULP!
Course, me saying that will probably have the SS knock on my door. Oh, but when HE jokes about Obama being murdered.......... well, that's just dandy, right?
Course, me saying that will probably have the SS knock on my door. Oh, but when HE jokes about Obama being murdered.......... well, that's just dandy, right?
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 01:39:31
Ohh, one of the few Old Doctors I've ever seen.
Have they been in any of the new Doctors?
They don't look familiar...
Edit...I am blind...Right, they haven't been seen since then...Still don't recognize them.
Random on 05/17/2008 01:39:31
Quote by livingonli:
They are largely setting up since this is a two-part episode. Martha summoned the Doctor back to Earth for a UNIT assignment investigating a factory where the Sontarans have been replacing the human works as part of their latest plan to invade the earth.
This is the first appearance of the Sontarans since 1985's The Two Doctors.
Ohh, one of the few Old Doctors I've ever seen.
Have they been in any of the new Doctors?
They don't look familiar...
Edit...I am blind...Right, they haven't been seen since then...Still don't recognize them.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:46:59
livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:46:59
The Sontarans previously only appeared in a few of the "original" Doctor Who stories.
The Time Warrior (Jon Pertwee)
The Sontaran Experiment and Invasion of Time (Tom Baker)
The Two Doctors (Colin Baker with special guest Patrick Troughton)
So far the only meeting with an old Doctor and one from the new series was a brief piece in last year's BBC's Children In Need special which had a piece with David Tennant and Peter Davison. The way the new series is done, I think they try to have the new show as a continuation of the old show but not necessarily requiring knowledge of the original series to bring in new viewers.
The Time Warrior (Jon Pertwee)
The Sontaran Experiment and Invasion of Time (Tom Baker)
The Two Doctors (Colin Baker with special guest Patrick Troughton)
So far the only meeting with an old Doctor and one from the new series was a brief piece in last year's BBC's Children In Need special which had a piece with David Tennant and Peter Davison. The way the new series is done, I think they try to have the new show as a continuation of the old show but not necessarily requiring knowledge of the original series to bring in new viewers.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:51:51
livingonli on 05/17/2008 01:51:51
BTW, Tri, tonight was also supposed to be game 1 of the Subway series and right now this is a season where neither New York Team is doing very well. And you're probably happy, the Yankees are in last place.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 01:53:39
That's nice, makes it easier than having some of us watching 17 seasons (series) of old epis.
that being said, I kind of wish they'd do a cross Doctor epi, probably won't happen unless it's 8 or 9 with 10.
And I like Tennant better than Eccelston.
Random on 05/17/2008 01:53:39
Quote by livingonli:
The Sontarans previously only appeared in a few of the "original" Doctor Who stories.
The Time Warrior (Jon Pertwee)
The Sontaran Experiment and Invasion of Time (Tom Baker)
The Two Doctors (Colin Baker with special guest Patrick Troughton)
So far the only meeting with an old Doctor and one from the new series was a brief piece in last year's BBC's Children In Need special which had a piece with David Tennant and Peter Davison. The way the new series is done, I think they try to have the new show as a continuation of the old show but not necessarily requiring knowledge of the original series to bring in new viewers.
That's nice, makes it easier than having some of us watching 17 seasons (series) of old epis.
that being said, I kind of wish they'd do a cross Doctor epi, probably won't happen unless it's 8 or 9 with 10.
And I like Tennant better than Eccelston.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:00:16
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:00:16
Dammit, I got to week two weeks for the conclusion.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:02:17
...hm...BBC...thank you.
Random on 05/17/2008 02:02:17
Quote by livingonli:
Dammit, I got to week two weeks for the conclusion.
...hm...BBC...thank you.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:08:32
Actually Sci-Fi has decided to do the holiday weekend movie marathon next week. It was their decision to push it back.
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:08:32
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Dammit, I got to week two weeks for the conclusion.
...hm...BBC...thank you.
Actually Sci-Fi has decided to do the holiday weekend movie marathon next week. It was their decision to push it back.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:10:47
I was more refering to that because this a British show, it's already aired, and if you know the right place to look...not that i know...
Random on 05/17/2008 02:10:47
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Dammit, I got to week two weeks for the conclusion.
...hm...BBC...thank you.
Actually Sci-Fi has decided to do the holiday weekend movie marathon next week. It was their decision to push it back.
I was more refering to that because this a British show, it's already aired, and if you know the right place to look...not that i know...
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:16:42
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:16:42
For the first few seasons, Sci-Fi was always airing the episodes after the BBC had already finished the season. This is the closest we have ever come to seeing new episodes in relative sync with the UK like BBC America with Season Two of Torchwood.
On the other hand, the earliest our neighbors to the north will see Season Four won't be until after the NHL playoffs are finished because CBC devotes nearly the entire spring to Hockey.
On the other hand, the earliest our neighbors to the north will see Season Four won't be until after the NHL playoffs are finished because CBC devotes nearly the entire spring to Hockey.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:27:25
Random on 05/17/2008 02:27:25
Really? All i know that's the only reason i saw most of Season 3 because of that.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Comment by shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:28:00
shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:28:00
Liv, have you had a chance to watch all the unexpurgated, non-SciFi versions of the Sarah Jane Adventures yet?
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:31:41
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:31:41
Not yet, Shelagh. I think I still have to resolve why they don't play down on my computer.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:34:08
Random on 05/17/2008 02:34:08
Unexpurgated? mean they were suppose to be hour long epis?
Comment by shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:35:17
Really? I *love* SJA!
shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:35:17
Quote by Random:
Really? All i know that's the only reason i saw most of Season 3 because of that.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Really? I *love* SJA!
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:36:48
It's painful. Unless what they're showing here in the states is edited badly...nothing can save it.
Random on 05/17/2008 02:36:48
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:
Really? All i know that's the only reason i saw most of Season 3 because of that.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Really? I *love* SJA!
It's painful. Unless what they're showing here in the states is edited badly...nothing can save it.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:37:18
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:37:18
And I still wish Rachel got to do worst person. How come none of Keith's fill-ins have ever done worst person in the world? I would think if anyone could follow in Keith's spirit it's Rachel.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:39:15
Sci-Fi is very heavily chopping them up in order to fit the time slot they have it in with commercials. One of my other co-workers who's a long-time Doctor Who fan has not been impressed either, but I think he's only watched the butchered Sci-Fi episodes.
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:39:15
Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:
Really? All i know that's the only reason i saw most of Season 3 because of that.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Really? I *love* SJA!
It's painful. Unless what they're showing here in the states is edited badly...nothing can save it.
Sci-Fi is very heavily chopping them up in order to fit the time slot they have it in with commercials. One of my other co-workers who's a long-time Doctor Who fan has not been impressed either, but I think he's only watched the butchered Sci-Fi episodes.
Comment by shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:40:17
No, but each episode *is* each supposed to be about twenty-eight minutes long with a cliffhanger for the next ep.
There are a couple of blogs that record all the stuff that SciFi takes out.
shelaghc on 05/17/2008 02:40:17
Quote by Random:
Unexpurgated? mean they were suppose to be hour long epis?
No, but each episode *is* each supposed to be about twenty-eight minutes long with a cliffhanger for the next ep.
There are a couple of blogs that record all the stuff that SciFi takes out.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:42:16
I always found it disturbing that i missed the first 5 minutes of that premier episode, and it looked like 10+ minutes of exposition...Maybe I'll look it up in it's full form. But SJA does't look lke hte kind of show i could ever like..
Random on 05/17/2008 02:42:16
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:
Really? All i know that's the only reason i saw most of Season 3 because of that.
Also...that Sarah Jane show sucks...just sayin.
Really? I *love* SJA!
It's painful. Unless what they're showing here in the states is edited badly...nothing can save it.
Sci-Fi is very heavily chopping them up in order to fit the time slot they have it in with commercials. One of my other co-workers who's a long-time Doctor Who fan has not been impressed either, but I think he's only watched the butchered Sci-Fi episodes.
I always found it disturbing that i missed the first 5 minutes of that premier episode, and it looked like 10+ minutes of exposition...Maybe I'll look it up in it's full form. But SJA does't look lke hte kind of show i could ever like..
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:44:44
hm...Maybe that'd help the show...I know how editing can destroy a show. (refering to early localization of Anime)
I'll see if i can feel an episode intact and make a full assestment.
Random on 05/17/2008 02:44:44
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Random:
Unexpurgated? mean they were suppose to be hour long epis?
No, but each episode *is* each supposed to be about twenty-eight minutes long with a cliffhanger for the next ep.
There are a couple of blogs that record all the stuff that SciFi takes out.
hm...Maybe that'd help the show...I know how editing can destroy a show. (refering to early localization of Anime)
I'll see if i can feel an episode intact and make a full assestment.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:47:40
livingonli on 05/17/2008 02:47:40
But does anyone remember watching those early Tom Baker Doctor Who episodes when they first aired in the US and the BBC felt that we needed a narrator (Howard Da Silva) to "explain" what was going on? Thank goodness once enough PBS stations were running the shows, they got rid of those wraps.
Comment by Random on 05/17/2008 02:52:55
Random on 05/17/2008 02:52:55
...I'm too young for that.
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 03:24:11
livingonli on 05/17/2008 03:24:11
Now I have the Family Guy re-run on my local CW station (WPIX).
Comment by livingonli on 05/17/2008 05:22:17
livingonli on 05/17/2008 05:22:17
Another installment of late-night music video theater. You should find this one quite odd indeed. But does fit the theme we sometmes have here.