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The change they deserve...
Author: velveeta jones
Date: 05/18/2008 13:20:43
Recently the GOP decided they needed a new slogan, after all, the "change" idea seemed to be working for everyone from Obama to Ron Paul. So they came up with something; as New York Times columnist Carl Hulse recently reported:
"Change You Deserve". Sounds good! Snappy! Right to the point! Powerful! Sounds like........... like some smart ad exec. might have already thought of it!!
Oops!
Oops! Poor GOP! They can't seem to get things right very often. As this case in point with the backwards flag. What? You say? What backwards flag?
Well, as reported on HuffPo, it seems that the Boner; he of the Party that complains about "flag pins" and "patriotism", does not understand the flag code and how our flag should be displayed:
According to the code:
Tsk, Tsk!
Velveeta is a firm believer in unity. And in that spirit, I think we should help our friends on the Right come up with a new slogan! Here's a few ideas:
GOP: We're the Good kind of Christians!
Reach out and touch a Republican!
GOP: Now with 3 black people!
GOP: Good Christians only; unless we need your votes in Florida or Ohio!
Republicans: Its our way or the war way!
GOP: We believe in a woman's right to choose: Kitchen or Bedroom?
Republicans: We are so pro marriage we do it over and over and over!
GOP: Its the Gay People, Stupid!
Republicans: Our pundits can shout louder.
Republicans support the troops. We don't play golf! But Wii golf doesn't count, does it? (Thanks to JD for that one!)
GOP: Poverty is for the poor!
The Republican Party: We love you before you're born and as you lay trying to die. In between you're on your own!
GOP: Embryo's before immigrants.
Republicans: Homeskooled!
GOP: Got Bootstraps?
Republicans: When it absolutely, positively has to be done; do it in the bathroom stall!
GOP: Black people are perplexing.
GOP: 100 Billion embryo's strong!
Republicans: We believe! And no amount of "facts" will change our minds.
GOP: We do fear!
Come on people! The GOP needs our help!
It looks like Republicans will counter the Democratic push for change from the years of the Bush administration with their own pledge to deliver, drum roll please, "the change you deserve." The first element of the party agenda developed over the past few months by the leadership and select party members will focus on family issues.
"Through our "Change You Deserve" message and through our "American Families Agenda," House Republicans will continue our efforts to speak directly to an American public looking for leaders who will offer real solutions for the challenges they confront every day," said the memo prepared for lawmakers.
"Change You Deserve". Sounds good! Snappy! Right to the point! Powerful! Sounds like........... like some smart ad exec. might have already thought of it!!
Oops!
What the GOP doesn't seem to realize, because they are idiots, is that "the change you deserve" is the registered advertising slogan of Effexor XR, a drug that many of you might have started taking as a result of all the...you know -- terrorism. (Hat tip to Bluestem for catching this gem.)
Effexor, also known as Venlafaxine, is approved for the treatment "of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults." Its common side effects are very much in keeping with the world the House Republicans have striven to build: nausea, apathy, constipation, fatigue, vertigo, sexual dysfunction, sweating, memory loss, and - and I swear I am not making this up - "electric shock-like sensations also called 'brain zaps.'"
Its less common side effects are equally awesome in their appropriateness.
Oops! Poor GOP! They can't seem to get things right very often. As this case in point with the backwards flag. What? You say? What backwards flag?
Well, as reported on HuffPo, it seems that the Boner; he of the Party that complains about "flag pins" and "patriotism", does not understand the flag code and how our flag should be displayed:
According to the code:
When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
Tsk, Tsk!
Velveeta is a firm believer in unity. And in that spirit, I think we should help our friends on the Right come up with a new slogan! Here's a few ideas:
GOP: We're the Good kind of Christians!
Reach out and touch a Republican!
GOP: Now with 3 black people!
GOP: Good Christians only; unless we need your votes in Florida or Ohio!
Republicans: Its our way or the war way!
GOP: We believe in a woman's right to choose: Kitchen or Bedroom?
Republicans: We are so pro marriage we do it over and over and over!
GOP: Its the Gay People, Stupid!
Republicans: Our pundits can shout louder.
Republicans support the troops. We don't play golf! But Wii golf doesn't count, does it? (Thanks to JD for that one!)
GOP: Poverty is for the poor!
The Republican Party: We love you before you're born and as you lay trying to die. In between you're on your own!
GOP: Embryo's before immigrants.
Republicans: Homeskooled!
GOP: Got Bootstraps?
Republicans: When it absolutely, positively has to be done; do it in the bathroom stall!
GOP: Black people are perplexing.
GOP: 100 Billion embryo's strong!
Republicans: We believe! And no amount of "facts" will change our minds.
GOP: We do fear!
Come on people! The GOP needs our help!
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Comment by 
BobR on 05/18/2008 13:32:44
BobR on 05/18/2008 13:32:44
excellent post Velveeta, and after some more coffee, I might be inclined to add to the list.
btw - you could have just edited the other post instead of creating a new one. Don't worry - I'll delete it.
btw - you could have just edited the other post instead of creating a new one. Don't worry - I'll delete it.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 13:37:19
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 13:37:19
And............ for those of you that missed this train wreck last night on SNL. Yikes! John McCain.......... um, someone needs to explain what makes satire funny. You see, you might not want to actually insult, say, your constituents like this. When you really don't bring home money to your State!
You uh, um, well.......... see for yourself:
You uh, um, well.......... see for yourself:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 13:39:10
I thought I did!!
Wow! I also need more coffee.............. and sleep!
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 13:39:10
Quote by BobR:
excellent post Velveeta, and after some more coffee, I might be inclined to add to the list.
btw - you could have just edited the other post instead of creating a new one. Don't worry - I'll delete it.
I thought I did!!
Wow! I also need more coffee.............. and sleep!
Comment by 
Raine on 05/18/2008 13:50:54
Raine on 05/18/2008 13:50:54
Good morning all!
Sitting here on the couch, watching cbs sunday morning, reading the paper and having coffee...
Life is good.
Sitting here on the couch, watching cbs sunday morning, reading the paper and having coffee...
Life is good.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 13:51:43
Raine on 05/18/2008 13:51:43
Excellent post velveeta! :clap:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 14:53:02
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 14:53:02
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
Great post Velveeta! As a consumer of that particular brand of medication (Effexor XR) I resented the hell out of the GOP trying to bogart that phrase. It literally made me sick every morning when I took my neds. I like your suggestions of slogans that fit better with the GOP mentality - my personal favorite is "Republicans - terrorism you deserve!" Happy Sunday :)
Cheers,
mfaye :D
P.S. I fell asleep before old man McCain did his schtick on SNL - and apparently the video that you posted is no longer available (can anybody say embarrassed?)
Great post Velveeta! As a consumer of that particular brand of medication (Effexor XR) I resented the hell out of the GOP trying to bogart that phrase. It literally made me sick every morning when I took my neds. I like your suggestions of slogans that fit better with the GOP mentality - my personal favorite is "Republicans - terrorism you deserve!" Happy Sunday :)
Cheers,
mfaye :D
P.S. I fell asleep before old man McCain did his schtick on SNL - and apparently the video that you posted is no longer available (can anybody say embarrassed?)
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/18/2008 14:55:36
livingonli on 05/18/2008 14:55:36
Maybe Keith will play that SNL clip on Monday.
The GOP: We have wider stances than the Democrats.
Just a quick hit and run before I go to work.
The GOP: We have wider stances than the Democrats.
Just a quick hit and run before I go to work.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 15:46:21
aw VJ, don't you think the writers had one over on Cranky McAnger?
Morning all.
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 15:46:21
Quote by velveeta jones:
And............ for those of you that missed this train wreck last night on SNL. Yikes! John McCain.......... um, someone needs to explain what makes satire funny. You see, you might not want to actually insult, say, your constituents like this. When you really don't bring home money to your State!
You uh, um, well.......... see for yourself:
aw VJ, don't you think the writers had one over on Cranky McAnger?
Morning all.
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:09:01
livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:09:01
Good day Mondo.
:tips hat:
:tips hat:
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 16:15:54
BobR on 05/18/2008 16:15:54
okay, lessee... How about:
Change: This time we mean it!
Change: This time we mean it!
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 16:18:01
BobR on 05/18/2008 16:18:01
or maybe:
Change: us too, us too!
Change: us too, us too!
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 16:19:45
You have to display the blog entry, then click on the "Edit this blog link" - you can't just continue editing after posting the blog and hit Save again.
BobR on 05/18/2008 16:19:45
Quote by velveeta jones:
I thought I did!!
Wow! I also need more coffee.............. and sleep!
You have to display the blog entry, then click on the "Edit this blog link" - you can't just continue editing after posting the blog and hit Save again.
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 16:20:58
BobR on 05/18/2008 16:20:58
GOP: Greedy Old People
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 16:27:04
BobR on 05/18/2008 16:27:04
GOP: We're out of the closet now!
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:28:59
Well, sort of.
livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:28:59
Quote by BobR:
GOP: We're out of the closet now!
Well, sort of.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/18/2008 16:29:17
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 16:29:17
The McCain clip is available over on HuffPo. It is not too impressive and not very funny either - two characteristics that I believe SNL is going for...oh well, as far as new slogans go - how about "I have a plan for a GOP victory, do you? Mine is CANADA, what's yours?" A little wordy, but it makes a point :)
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 16:33:10
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 16:33:10
GOP: Your kids will work for ours!
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:39:37
livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:39:37
Hi mfaye. That won't fit on a bumper sticker but that is apropos. If McSame gets in and with the Supreme Court nominees he will pick planning to set the country back 80 years moving to Canada looks very attractive.
Comment by 
Random on 05/18/2008 16:44:14
Random on 05/18/2008 16:44:14
hm...My brain isn't working today...
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 16:46:08
Raine on 05/18/2008 16:46:08
McCain: Grumpy Old Poop.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 16:48:17
McCain doesn't seem to realize the Youtubes are out there, does he?
Raine on 05/18/2008 16:48:17
McCain doesn't seem to realize the Youtubes are out there, does he?
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:55:37
There are too many states these days. Please eliminate three of them. I am not a crackpot!
livingonli on 05/18/2008 16:55:37
Quote by Raine:
McCain doesn't seem to realize the Youtubes are out there, does he?
There are too many states these days. Please eliminate three of them. I am not a crackpot!
Comment by m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:06:36
Liv,
I'm looking at Vancouver BC - nice temperate climate, liberal views on hemp and other issues that matter to me. Hemp (notorious marijuana's useful cousin) could solve all of our energy problems in just a few years if we started a massive grow campaign, please see VoteHemp.com. Plus you'd have to smoke a bail of the stuff in about 20 seconds and all you'd get is a headache
Ah well, got me off in another direction... Hope you have the day off Liv - seems like you work an awful lot 
Enjoy your day
Cheer,
mfaye :D
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:06:36
Quote by livingonli:
Hi mfaye. That won't fit on a bumper sticker but that is apropos. If McSame gets in and with the Supreme Court nominees he will pick planning to set the country back 80 years moving to Canada looks very attractive.
Liv,
I'm looking at Vancouver BC - nice temperate climate, liberal views on hemp and other issues that matter to me. Hemp (notorious marijuana's useful cousin) could solve all of our energy problems in just a few years if we started a massive grow campaign, please see VoteHemp.com. Plus you'd have to smoke a bail of the stuff in about 20 seconds and all you'd get is a headache
Ah well, got me off in another direction... Hope you have the day off Liv - seems like you work an awful lot Enjoy your day
Cheer,
mfaye :D
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:10:32
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:10:32
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 17:11:47
I am very unsure about that poster...It...scares me...just a little.
Random on 05/18/2008 17:11:47
Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
I am very unsure about that poster...It...scares me...just a little.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:12:39
interesting.
Click here.
Could that be why?
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:12:39
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
I am very unsure about that poster...It...scares me...just a little.
Click here.
Could that be why?
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 05/18/2008 17:14:12
I think this counts as a bumper sticker suggestion
GOP: my brain isn't working today
jd_in_ny on 05/18/2008 17:14:12
Quote by Random:
hm...My brain isn't working today...
I think this counts as a bumper sticker suggestion
GOP: my brain isn't working today
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 17:18:51
Not really. But it does remind me of that workers unite posters...With a touch of ultra femenism.
Random on 05/18/2008 17:18:51
Quote by Raine:interesting.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
I am very unsure about that poster...It...scares me...just a little.
Click here.
Could that be why?
Not really. But it does remind me of that workers unite posters...With a touch of ultra femenism.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 17:26:09
Even before I clicked on the link, I thought to myself, self, what is with the Soviet realism cult of personality halo thing. So I was barking up the wrong CP tree.
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 17:26:09
Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
Even before I clicked on the link, I thought to myself, self, what is with the Soviet realism cult of personality halo thing. So I was barking up the wrong CP tree.
Comment by 
MNRN on 05/18/2008 17:28:32
MNRN on 05/18/2008 17:28:32
seriously very Evita looking poster....and color scheme ripoff of the Hope poster.
Morning. Your nurse needs a warm soothing beverage after last nites camping. Lets put it this way. You could see your breath on a MN Morning
Morning. Your nurse needs a warm soothing beverage after last nites camping. Lets put it this way. You could see your breath on a MN Morning
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:34:23
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:34:23
Seems to me the general consensus is that it is an unfortunate poster. You know I could be barking up the wrong tree as well! It just gives off a very funky vibe, and mao was my first thought.
Good morning MNRN!
I never camp before memorial day weekend. We tried that once in NY, along the Delaware river... it dropped below 35 degrees. :: shiver ::
HERE, I nice cuppa Hot cocoa...
(if you want I can give a splash of Jamesons... and Nutella)
Good morning MNRN!
I never camp before memorial day weekend. We tried that once in NY, along the Delaware river... it dropped below 35 degrees. :: shiver ::
HERE, I nice cuppa Hot cocoa...
(if you want I can give a splash of Jamesons... and Nutella)
Comment by m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:37:32
Scareeeee - I prefer Shepard Fairey's Obama poster :)
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:37:32
Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
Scareeeee - I prefer Shepard Fairey's Obama poster :)
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 17:41:56
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, but it has a bad vibe to it. Her being in that blue makes her look cold...
Random on 05/18/2008 17:41:56
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
ok... is it just me?
It is a real poster, not a spoof and is for sale at HRC's website.
Scareeeee - I prefer Shepard Fairey's Obama poster :)
Cheers,
mfaye
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, but it has a bad vibe to it. Her being in that blue makes her look cold...
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:43:46
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:43:46
I like that poster as well Faye, but I don't think that it is for sale at his website.
There are tons a crazy wacky posters and stuff out there... but this on is sanctioned by the HRC campaign, I think that is what sorta make me go
We are re-racking a batch of Red Wine this afternoon, and eventually I think we are going to the park and have a picnic lunch.
It is loverly here today.
There are tons a crazy wacky posters and stuff out there... but this on is sanctioned by the HRC campaign, I think that is what sorta make me go
We are re-racking a batch of Red Wine this afternoon, and eventually I think we are going to the park and have a picnic lunch.
It is loverly here today.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:47:35
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:47:35
OH! I am sure I will ask again... BUT... I have a HUGE favour to ask.
My Dear Friend Margaret is coming to visit on wednesday and will be staying until Tuesday... There will be much fun to be had...
If anyone wants, I would LOVE it if someone could take my Thursday and Monday Bloggies. I will be in NO shape to get up and post, I promise.
(And if you do not already have the ability to post new blogs and want to, as always, just ask.)
My Dear Friend Margaret is coming to visit on wednesday and will be staying until Tuesday... There will be much fun to be had...
If anyone wants, I would LOVE it if someone could take my Thursday and Monday Bloggies. I will be in NO shape to get up and post, I promise.
(And if you do not already have the ability to post new blogs and want to, as always, just ask.)
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 17:49:15
Raine on 05/18/2008 17:49:15
It also kinda reminds me of the Japan Flag during WWII.
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 17:51:58
Random on 05/18/2008 17:51:58
There are times I'm really glad I have no party affiliation...
Comment by m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:52:44
I'll try to fill your substantial shoes on Monday, Raine - not making any promises that it will be 4Fer quality - but I'll give it a go. Let me know if you'd like me to pinch hit for ya - have a great time with your friend :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/18/2008 17:52:44
Quote by Raine:
OH! I am sure I will ask again... BUT... I have a HUGE favour to ask.
My Dear Friend Margaret is coming to visit on wednesday and will be staying until Tuesday... There will be much fun to be had...
If anyone wants, I would LOVE it if someone could take my Thursday and Monday Bloggies. I will be in NO shape to get up and post, I promise.
(And if you do not already have the ability to post new blogs and want to, as always, just ask.)
I'll try to fill your substantial shoes on Monday, Raine - not making any promises that it will be 4Fer quality - but I'll give it a go. Let me know if you'd like me to pinch hit for ya - have a great time with your friend
:hug:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 17:55:04
That park that you showed me with all the park rules? No alcohol allowed there! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 17:55:04
Quote by Raine:
I like that poster as well Faye, but I don't think that it is for sale at his website.
There are tons a crazy wacky posters and stuff out there... but this on is sanctioned by the HRC campaign, I think that is what sorta make me go
We are re-racking a batch of Red Wine this afternoon, and eventually I think we are going to the park and have a picnic lunch.
It is loverly here today.
That park that you showed me with all the park rules? No alcohol allowed there! :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:16:33
livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:16:33
We're gonna get hit with a thunderstorm here today. Still a question whether it will effect the Subway Series game tonight.
Alas, mfaye, I am at work today doing OT because I need more money thanks to the high cost of living in New York. :grumble:
Alas, mfaye, I am at work today doing OT because I need more money thanks to the high cost of living in New York. :grumble:
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 18:18:51
Random on 05/18/2008 18:18:51
No one answered my question from yesterday...
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:21:53
Which one?
livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:21:53
Quote by Random:
No one answered my question from yesterday...
Which one?
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 18:26:00
My last post from yesterday.
I asked what a libertarian was...
Random on 05/18/2008 18:26:00
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
No one answered my question from yesterday...
Which one?
My last post from yesterday.
I asked what a libertarian was...
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:33:19
I will defer to the experts on that one. TriSec can give you one explanation and I'm sure that some here will give a slightly different view.
livingonli on 05/18/2008 18:33:19
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
No one answered my question from yesterday...
Which one?
My last post from yesterday.
I asked what a libertarian was...
I will defer to the experts on that one. TriSec can give you one explanation and I'm sure that some here will give a slightly different view.
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 18:36:02
Random on 05/18/2008 18:36:02
Yeah...><
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 21:35:59
Random on 05/18/2008 21:35:59
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:04:03
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:04:03
Just back from work. Raine, I'll do your Thurs blog, unless you've already got a volunteer.
Re: That Hillary poster: as usual Hillary is ripping off Obama. The Fairey Poster, which was done for Obama (and his campaign I believe, commissioned it) is FREE! He encourages people to use the image for t-shirts, copy the poster online, etc. Hillary's does indeed have a hint of "Red" to it. Mao being the one that comes to mind. Course, there has been much whitewashing of Mao these days.
Re: That Hillary poster: as usual Hillary is ripping off Obama. The Fairey Poster, which was done for Obama (and his campaign I believe, commissioned it) is FREE! He encourages people to use the image for t-shirts, copy the poster online, etc. Hillary's does indeed have a hint of "Red" to it. Mao being the one that comes to mind. Course, there has been much whitewashing of Mao these days.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:07:32
:rofl: :rofl:
Oh yeah!!
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:07:32
Quote by BobR:
okay, lessee... How about:
Change: This time we mean it!
:rofl: :rofl:
Oh yeah!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:12:54
Okay, I'll bite............. how old are you? Cause, I mean, Communism fell in the late 80's/early 90's! Please tell me your not 11. And....... that I haven't said anything that might land me on TV with Chris Hanson!!
:pray:
:lol:
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:12:54
Quote by Random:
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, (snip)...
Okay, I'll bite............. how old are you? Cause, I mean, Communism fell in the late 80's/early 90's! Please tell me your not 11. And....... that I haven't said anything that might land me on TV with Chris Hanson!!
:pray:
:lol:
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 22:13:58
Random on 05/18/2008 22:13:58
GOP
Racism: It work for your granfathers, why can't it work for you?
(replace Racism with either, Sexism, Homophobia, or Anti-Semitism, for a different effect.)
Racism: It work for your granfathers, why can't it work for you?
(replace Racism with either, Sexism, Homophobia, or Anti-Semitism, for a different effect.)
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 22:16:04
I'll put it this way. I've only lived under Bush, and Clinton with 8 months of Reagan.
Random on 05/18/2008 22:16:04
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, (snip)...
Okay, I'll bite............. how old are you? Cause, I mean, Communism fell in the late 80's/early 90's! Please tell me your not 11. And....... that I haven't said anything that might land me on TV with Chris Hanson!!
:pray:
:lol:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:36:57
*counting on fingers.......*
Whew!!!
Okay then........... "suck it Chris Hanson"!
:D
velveeta jones on 05/18/2008 22:36:57
Quote by Random:I'll put it this way. I've only lived under Bush, and Clinton with 8 months of Reagan.Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, (snip)...
Okay, I'll bite............. how old are you? Cause, I mean, Communism fell in the late 80's/early 90's! Please tell me your not 11. And....... that I haven't said anything that might land me on TV with Chris Hanson!!
:pray:
:lol:
*counting on fingers.......*
Whew!!!
Okay then........... "suck it Chris Hanson"!
:D
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 22:41:07
Lol...I love show...dun tell anyone.
I'm legal. I'm pretty sure.
Random on 05/18/2008 22:41:07
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:I'll put it this way. I've only lived under Bush, and Clinton with 8 months of Reagan.Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:
Oh, I like that one. It's kind of cool, and the color scheme is real nice.
I suppose being as young as i am, i can't see much of the communist regimes in Hillary's poster, (snip)...
Okay, I'll bite............. how old are you? Cause, I mean, Communism fell in the late 80's/early 90's! Please tell me your not 11. And....... that I haven't said anything that might land me on TV with Chris Hanson!!
:pray:
:lol:
*counting on fingers.......*
Whew!!!
Okay then........... "suck it Chris Hanson"!
:D
Lol...I love show...dun tell anyone.
I'm legal. I'm pretty sure.
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 22:45:54
livingonli on 05/18/2008 22:45:54
I was born under LBJ but the first president I can remember is Nixon and then came Watergate.
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 22:49:42
My first big Scandal...BJ in the white house.
I suppose Clinton will always be the best president to me, mainly cause it's tainted with actually being a child and being happy during that time.
that and stark contrast of becoming politically active under such a shit hole of a presidency.
Random on 05/18/2008 22:49:42
Quote by livingonli:
I was born under LBJ but the first president I can remember is Nixon and then came Watergate.
My first big Scandal...BJ in the white house.
I suppose Clinton will always be the best president to me, mainly cause it's tainted with actually being a child and being happy during that time.
that and stark contrast of becoming politically active under such a shit hole of a presidency.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 22:59:32
Muchas gracis Senora!
Now I just need a monday taker! I will give you a free
:D
Raine on 05/18/2008 22:59:32
Quote by velveeta jones:
Just back from work. Raine, I'll do your Thurs blog, unless you've already got a volunteer.
Re: That Hillary poster: as usual Hillary is ripping off Obama. The Fairey Poster, which was done for Obama (and his campaign I believe, commissioned it) is FREE! He encourages people to use the image for t-shirts, copy the poster online, etc. Hillary's does indeed have a hint of "Red" to it. Mao being the one that comes to mind. Course, there has been much whitewashing of Mao these days.
Now I just need a monday taker! I will give you a free
:D
Comment by BobR on 05/18/2008 23:07:13
Here's a pretty comprehensive list of every party you could ever imagine
BobR on 05/18/2008 23:07:13
Quote by Random:
My last post from yesterday.
I asked what a libertarian was...
Here's a pretty comprehensive list of every party you could ever imagine
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:11:44
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:11:44
Portand Oregon: Barack Obama Rally today!
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:13:56
Born under Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Douchebag
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:13:56
Quote by livingonli:
I was born under LBJ but the first president I can remember is Nixon and then came Watergate.
Born under Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Douchebag
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 23:15:04
Thank you.
Random on 05/18/2008 23:15:04
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
My last post from yesterday.
I asked what a libertarian was...
Here's a pretty comprehensive list of every party you could ever imagine
Thank you.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:15:47
Yeah but is Portland. They are smugly satisfied about how progressive they are. I have a friend who lives there. She says the cult of look at us, we are Portland, we are liberal and great is really annoying.
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:15:47
Quote by Raine:
Portand Oregon: Barack Obama Rally today!
:thud:
Yeah but is Portland. They are smugly satisfied about how progressive they are. I have a friend who lives there. She says the cult of look at us, we are Portland, we are liberal and great is really annoying.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:21:10
:hug: Thanks Faye!
I would appreciate it mucho macho!
And I am sure it will be 4f'r quality sistah!
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:21:10
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
OH! I am sure I will ask again... BUT... I have a HUGE favour to ask.
My Dear Friend Margaret is coming to visit on wednesday and will be staying until Tuesday... There will be much fun to be had...
If anyone wants, I would LOVE it if someone could take my Thursday and Monday Bloggies. I will be in NO shape to get up and post, I promise.
(And if you do not already have the ability to post new blogs and want to, as always, just ask.)
I'll try to fill your substantial shoes on Monday, Raine - not making any promises that it will be 4Fer quality - but I'll give it a go. Let me know if you'd like me to pinch hit for ya - have a great time with your friend
Cheers,
mfaye
I would appreciate it mucho macho!
And I am sure it will be 4f'r quality sistah!
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:22:32
IT still is an impressive crowd. That looks like anywhere from 40-60 thousand people!
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:22:32
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Portand Oregon: Barack Obama Rally today!
:thud:
Yeah but is Portland. They are smugly satisfied about how progressive they are. I have a friend who lives there. She says the cult of look at us, we are Portland, we are liberal and great is really annoying.
Comment by livingonli on 05/18/2008 23:26:28
Thom Hartmann always talks about how progressive Portland is since he moved there and this was after several years of living in Vermont (Montpelier, not Burlington).
President Douchebag is very appropriate to describe what has been in charge for the last 8 years.
And now off to dinner.
livingonli on 05/18/2008 23:26:28
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Portand Oregon: Barack Obama Rally today!
:thud:
Yeah but is Portland. They are smugly satisfied about how progressive they are. I have a friend who lives there. She says the cult of look at us, we are Portland, we are liberal and great is really annoying.
Thom Hartmann always talks about how progressive Portland is since he moved there and this was after several years of living in Vermont (Montpelier, not Burlington).
President Douchebag is very appropriate to describe what has been in charge for the last 8 years.
And now off to dinner.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:30:31
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:30:31
McCains National Finance Co-chair resigns.
That is 5 people in eight days.
When will McCain resign from his campaign?
That is 5 people in eight days.
When will McCain resign from his campaign?
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:31:54
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:31:54
BTW, I know that Senator Kennedy is going to be alright.
I hope that when he gets well enough to campaign again, he can remind people that he is only what, 5 years older than John?
I hope that when he gets well enough to campaign again, he can remind people that he is only what, 5 years older than John?
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:32:18
No doubt! I just wanted to slam Portland
My friend in Portland's dad could give you an estimate of the crowd size. When he was with the US Park Police in DC on of his jobs was to go up to the top of the Washington monument and calculate the crowd density. He spent many years disapointing both liberal and conservative groups.
Mondobubba on 05/18/2008 23:32:18
Quote by Raine:IT still is an impressive crowd. That looks like anywhere from 40-60 thousand people!Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Portand Oregon: Barack Obama Rally today!
:thud:
Yeah but is Portland. They are smugly satisfied about how progressive they are. I have a friend who lives there. She says the cult of look at us, we are Portland, we are liberal and great is really annoying.
No doubt! I just wanted to slam Portland
My friend in Portland's dad could give you an estimate of the crowd size. When he was with the US Park Police in DC on of his jobs was to go up to the top of the Washington monument and calculate the crowd density. He spent many years disapointing both liberal and conservative groups.
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:40:09
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:40:09
Kos and a few other places are actually saying that was about 75,000 people.
Obamapalooza!
Obamapalooza!
Comment by Raine on 05/18/2008 23:43:51
Raine on 05/18/2008 23:43:51
Oh dear... HRC goes to Kentucky to campaign and instead gets a sermon on infedelity.
THAT had to be a little uncomfortable...
What was likely less of a treat was Pastor Paul Fryman’s sermon she heard Sunday morning at Bowling Green’s State Street United Methodist Church on marriage and adultery entitled “When the Devil Whispers Over Your Shoulder.”
Pastor Fryman launched into his sermon with Matthew 5, verse 27, “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
The verse goes on to say anyone guilty is better off plucking out their eye or cutting off their hand lest they end up in hell.
Clinton did not speak at the service, nor was she recognized at any point from those on the alter, instead sitting quietly in the second pew praying and singing along with the rest of the congregation.
She smiled broadly as a baby was baptized and carried down the aisle by the pastor.
THAT had to be a little uncomfortable...
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/18/2008 23:55:46
TriSec on 05/18/2008 23:55:46
Passing through...
What is a Libertarian? Gawd, ask me something easier!!! Gotta give that one some thought, but I won't let it die. I'd go so far as to say "Check back next Saturday".
Presidential lifespans....
Emerged from the womb under LBJ, vaguely remember the Carter presidency, became politically aware under Reagan, became a die-hard in 1988 when our hometown governor ran against Papa Bush...became enraged in 2000, horrified in 2001, and ran out of tears after Katrina spun in in '05.
What is a Libertarian? Gawd, ask me something easier!!! Gotta give that one some thought, but I won't let it die. I'd go so far as to say "Check back next Saturday".
Presidential lifespans....
Emerged from the womb under LBJ, vaguely remember the Carter presidency, became politically aware under Reagan, became a die-hard in 1988 when our hometown governor ran against Papa Bush...became enraged in 2000, horrified in 2001, and ran out of tears after Katrina spun in in '05.
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 23:58:23
Irony...Thou name is Clinton
Random on 05/18/2008 23:58:23
Quote by Raine:
Oh dear... HRC goes to Kentucky to campaign and instead gets a sermon on infedelity.
What was likely less of a treat was Pastor Paul Fryman’s sermon she heard Sunday morning at Bowling Green’s State Street United Methodist Church on marriage and adultery entitled “When the Devil Whispers Over Your Shoulder.”
Pastor Fryman launched into his sermon with Matthew 5, verse 27, “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
The verse goes on to say anyone guilty is better off plucking out their eye or cutting off their hand lest they end up in hell.
Clinton did not speak at the service, nor was she recognized at any point from those on the alter, instead sitting quietly in the second pew praying and singing along with the rest of the congregation.
She smiled broadly as a baby was baptized and carried down the aisle by the pastor.
THAT had to be a little uncomfortable...
Irony...Thou name is Clinton
Comment by Random on 05/18/2008 23:59:34
Well...So your A libertarian Trisec?
Random on 05/18/2008 23:59:34
Quote by TriSec:
Passing through...
What is a Libertarian? Gawd, ask me something easier!!! Gotta give that one some thought, but I won't let it die. I'd go so far as to say "Check back next Saturday".
Presidential lifespans....
Emerged from the womb under LBJ, vaguely remember the Carter presidency, became politically aware under Reagan, became a die-hard in 1988 when our hometown governor ran against Papa Bush...became enraged in 2000, horrified in 2001, and ran out of tears after Katrina spun in in '05.
Well...So your A libertarian Trisec?
Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 00:00:23
Raine on 05/19/2008 00:00:23
Change the Americans deserve...
:rofl:
you can see the entire interview by going to This Weeks website. It was the best laugh I had all morning. Boner has NOTHING. He said Change Americans deserve 9 times during this interview. George kept asking him WHAT he planned on doing, he answered, we have to bring change americans deserve.
Oh. And he looked like he started tossing back bourbons about 7 in the morning.
The entire interview is a classic.
:rofl:
you can see the entire interview by going to This Weeks website. It was the best laugh I had all morning. Boner has NOTHING. He said Change Americans deserve 9 times during this interview. George kept asking him WHAT he planned on doing, he answered, we have to bring change americans deserve.
Oh. And he looked like he started tossing back bourbons about 7 in the morning.
The entire interview is a classic.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:05:48
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:05:48
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:11:28
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:11:28
Okay Random here's the poop on the LP.
Basic tenet: live and let live.
What it really means: You're on your own! And if that Corporation in your town wants to dump toxins in your water? Suck it up!
:blink:
(don't hit me TriSec....... I have a black belt).
Basic tenet: live and let live.
What it really means: You're on your own! And if that Corporation in your town wants to dump toxins in your water? Suck it up!
:blink:
(don't hit me TriSec....... I have a black belt).
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 00:11:49
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
Random on 05/19/2008 00:11:49
Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 00:12:55
Kinda what i read into it...><
Random on 05/19/2008 00:12:55
Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay Random here's the poop on the LP.
Basic tenet: live and let live.
What it really means: You're on your own! And if that Corporation in your town wants to dump toxins in your water? Suck it up!
:blink:
(don't hit me TriSec....... I have a black belt).
Kinda what i read into it...><
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:15:47
He'll give your State lots of love during the GE!
:metal:
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:15:47
Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
He'll give your State lots of love during the GE!
:metal:
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 00:20:27
Well...He's evil man who doesn't care about my state.
Random on 05/19/2008 00:20:27
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
He'll give your State lots of love during the GE!
:metal:
Well...He's evil man who doesn't care about my state.
Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 00:23:41
Raine on 05/19/2008 00:23:41
I missed Obama when he came to Georgia...
But it's alright, I was still on the Edwards Bandwagon then, and it was a JOY to listen to him speak... (John has an AWESOME handshake)
I WILL see him when he comes to Georgia in the GE. There are a few rumblings down here that the state may actually do quite well for the Dems this year...
But it's alright, I was still on the Edwards Bandwagon then, and it was a JOY to listen to him speak... (John has an AWESOME handshake)
I WILL see him when he comes to Georgia in the GE. There are a few rumblings down here that the state may actually do quite well for the Dems this year...
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:29:16
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:29:16
(ahem) Those of ya'll that frequent the SMS live blog:
At a fundraiser last night in Portland that raked in an estimated $350,000 to his campaign coffers, Barack Obama predicted a victory in Oregon, and said he believed the resulting delegate haul would “put us over the top.”
“We will be able to say we have won a majority,” he said. “But we have a lot of work to do ahead of us.”
For Dems to win in November, he said, it will require a unified Party, adding: “That means all of you have to be nice to Clinton supporters.”
After Tuesday there are three more contests.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:31:24
:wacko:
I'm confused. What did Obama have to do with Florida changing their primary?
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:31:24
Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
He'll give your State lots of love during the GE!
:metal:
Well...He's evil man who doesn't care about my state.
:wacko:
I'm confused. What did Obama have to do with Florida changing their primary?
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 00:32:47
That's what Hillary said.
Random on 05/19/2008 00:32:47
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
Okay, as a former rock stagehand.......... I must say: what a weird spot to place the stage! Were they not expecting that many? Or, was it just dumb?
Oh, I barely remember Johnson.......... the Prez, not......... oh, nevermind, I forgot, there's children about: Random!
:lol:
I wish i could see Obama speak. If only he hadn't changed the date of primary here to an illegal date, therefore making here null-and-void, so he didn't have to come down here...
He'll give your State lots of love during the GE!
:metal:
Well...He's evil man who doesn't care about my state.
:wacko:
I'm confused. What did Obama have to do with Florida changing their primary?
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:46:20
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:46:20
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 00:51:45
Ruin my fun. I am well aware of who and who isn't responsible for Florida's problems. going to extreme of Hillary's campaign of saying it's obama's fault that no re-votes have been done in Mi/Fl.
Random on 05/19/2008 00:51:45
Quote by velveeta jones:
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Ruin my fun. I am well aware of who and who isn't responsible for Florida's problems. going to extreme of Hillary's campaign of saying it's obama's fault that no re-votes have been done in Mi/Fl.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:59:17
Oh, thank God. I just figured you were smoking too much weed. :lol:
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 00:59:17
Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Ruin my fun. I am well aware of who and who isn't responsible for Florida's problems. going to extreme of Hillary's campaign of saying it's obama's fault that no re-votes have been done in Mi/Fl.
Oh, thank God. I just figured you were smoking too much weed. :lol:
Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 00:59:59
TriSec on 05/19/2008 00:59:59
Heya Random. I've been an actual card-carrying member of the Libertarian Party since 2003.
I recently re-enlisted for another year....but I also recently changed my voter registration here in this Commonwealth. I've been unenrolled since I can't remember when, but I changed back to "Democrat" about two weeks ago especially for this election season. It's just too important not to.
Velveeta may simplify it, but it is indeed Live and let live, or as I'm fond of saying "Do no harm." I will admit it's the foreign policy aspects of the party that first attracted me, falling for that avoiding foreign entanglements bit that was so near and dear to Jefferson's heart.
Then there's all that personal liberty stuff....although I'd like to think that if by your actions you endanger or harm someone else, that should be illegal under a Libertarian society.
I can't say I agree with the free-market stance and elimination of welfare and all that other crunchy liberal stuff that I kinda think we should have. But the LP as a whole agrees pretty closely with a lot of things I believe in...far more so than the two major parties.
Give this a try and see where you might stand...
I recently re-enlisted for another year....but I also recently changed my voter registration here in this Commonwealth. I've been unenrolled since I can't remember when, but I changed back to "Democrat" about two weeks ago especially for this election season. It's just too important not to.
Velveeta may simplify it, but it is indeed Live and let live, or as I'm fond of saying "Do no harm." I will admit it's the foreign policy aspects of the party that first attracted me, falling for that avoiding foreign entanglements bit that was so near and dear to Jefferson's heart.
Then there's all that personal liberty stuff....although I'd like to think that if by your actions you endanger or harm someone else, that should be illegal under a Libertarian society.
I can't say I agree with the free-market stance and elimination of welfare and all that other crunchy liberal stuff that I kinda think we should have. But the LP as a whole agrees pretty closely with a lot of things I believe in...far more so than the two major parties.
Give this a try and see where you might stand...
Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 01:02:54
TriSec on 05/19/2008 01:02:54
Kind of Blue and Christian Brothers make for a fine Sunday evening...
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 01:05:57
Strange fact about Random: He no do drugs and the drink...O.O
Random on 05/19/2008 01:05:57
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Random:Quote by velveeta jones:
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Ruin my fun. I am well aware of who and who isn't responsible for Florida's problems. going to extreme of Hillary's campaign of saying it's obama's fault that no re-votes have been done in Mi/Fl.
Oh, thank God. I just figured you were smoking too much weed. :lol:
Strange fact about Random: He no do drugs and the drink...O.O
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 01:07:57
velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 01:07:57
Still:
;)
LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal
matters, but tend to support significant government control of the
economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation
of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,
defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action
to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 10%.
;)
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 01:11:30
Eh...Well, I have no party affiliation. I don't really agree with a lot of the lack of government. but the lack of foreign involvement is smart...but impossible in this day an age.
Random on 05/19/2008 01:11:30
Quote by TriSec:
Heya Random. I've been an actual card-carrying member of the Libertarian Party since 2003.
I recently re-enlisted for another year....but I also recently changed my voter registration here in this Commonwealth. I've been unenrolled since I can't remember when, but I changed back to "Democrat" about two weeks ago especially for this election season. It's just too important not to.
Velveeta may simplify it, but it is indeed Live and let live, or as I'm fond of saying "Do no harm." I will admit it's the foreign policy aspects of the party that first attracted me, falling for that avoiding foreign entanglements bit that was so near and dear to Jefferson's heart.
Then there's all that personal liberty stuff....although I'd like to think that if by your actions you endanger or harm someone else, that should be illegal under a Libertarian society.
I can't say I agree with the free-market stance and elimination of welfare and all that other crunchy liberal stuff that I kinda think we should have. But the LP as a whole agrees pretty closely with a lot of things I believe in...far more so than the two major parties.
Give this a try and see where you might stand...
Eh...Well, I have no party affiliation. I don't really agree with a lot of the lack of government. but the lack of foreign involvement is smart...but impossible in this day an age.
Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 01:20:03
livingonli on 05/19/2008 01:20:03
Tri, how many NASCAR fans are there in New England? I notice that Comcast Sports New England still airs Around the Track and we don't run that show on our New York regional? There are a number of FSN or FSN-affiliated regional sports networks that take the show but most of them are in areas where NASCAR has a following.
Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 01:25:36
livingonli on 05/19/2008 01:25:36
Raine, are you watching the Subway Series on ESPN? Last time I checked Mets were up 3-0 though.
Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 01:42:12
TriSec on 05/19/2008 01:42:12
I would imagine there's a fair lot of them in NH and Maine...but in Mass, VT, and Connecticut, not so much. There is the New Hampshire International Speedway in Loudon, after all. And it is almost Bike Week...
I'm rather partial to the drags, myself. Good ol' New England Dragway....
But cars driving in circles, not so much.
I'm rather partial to the drags, myself. Good ol' New England Dragway....
But cars driving in circles, not so much.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 02:03:10
Excuse me, Missy! I'd like to point out that it was the Republican dominated Florida legislature came up with the good idea to move the primary counter to the rules of both parties.
Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 02:03:10
Quote by velveeta jones:
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Excuse me, Missy! I'd like to point out that it was the Republican dominated Florida legislature came up with the good idea to move the primary counter to the rules of both parties.
Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 02:07:59
Actually, i'd like to point out that the one who suggested the date was a Democrat.
Random on 05/19/2008 02:07:59
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by velveeta jones:
:lol:
Random, neither Hillary or Obama have anything to do with the Florida Democratic Committee! They don't even live in Florida!
You have only your Florida Dems to blame. (Well, and some Reps).
Excuse me, Missy! I'd like to point out that it was the Republican dominated Florida legislature came up with the good idea to move the primary counter to the rules of both parties.
Actually, i'd like to point out that the one who suggested the date was a Democrat.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 02:12:54
Mondo defines NASCAR. Drive fast. Turn left. Repeat. Wait for spectacular crash. See Will Ferrall's Talladega Nights for more.
Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 02:12:54
Quote by TriSec:
I would imagine there's a fair lot of them in NH and Maine...but in Mass, VT, and Connecticut, not so much. There is the New Hampshire International Speedway in Loudon, after all. And it is almost Bike Week...
I'm rather partial to the drags, myself. Good ol' New England Dragway....
But cars driving in circles, not so much.
Mondo defines NASCAR. Drive fast. Turn left. Repeat. Wait for spectacular crash. See Will Ferrall's Talladega Nights for more.
Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 04:00:10
The mets! >P
No I didn't, some friends came over and we were having lively conversation.
Now I think I am going to hit the hay. :yawn:
Raine on 05/19/2008 04:00:10
Quote by livingonli:
Raine, are you watching the Subway Series on ESPN? Last time I checked Mets were up 3-0 though.
The mets! >P
No I didn't, some friends came over and we were having lively conversation.
Now I think I am going to hit the hay. :yawn:
Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 04:28:40
livingonli on 05/19/2008 04:28:40
Best you missed it. Mets ended up winning 11-2. The Yankees are in last place in the AL East.