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Author: BobR
Date: 05/28/2008 12:27:24
After hearing the story on last night's Countdown, I was planning on writing about the McK-Street of Dreams, where it's All Lobbyists - All the Time. In case you missed that one, McCain's advisor on economic policy is Phill Gramm, who helped the mortgage companies create and then bail themselves out of the recent mortgage crisis:
This is huge. McCain has said that he knows little about the economy and his taking advice from this economic Typhoid Mary is proof of it...
Speaking of McCain: Another story bubbled to the surface yesterday (we're waiting for it to break open) regarding McCain's involvement with a SmearBoat group known as "Vets For Freedom" (as opposed to the other kind that are against freedom?
). As reported by Raine yesterday, there are several prominent people that are involved in his campaign that are also members of this 527 group, including:
More information here... Is this even legal? Can a campaign that is subject to campaign finance laws share personnel that belong to a 527 that does NOT have campaign finance restrictions?
Speaking of the Iraq War: Bush actually tried to compare it to WWII:
This comes 2 months after Bush made his stupid comments about how the Iraq War is "Romantic", and he was envious of those fighting in it. This really bolsters the notion (okay - the reality) that he is a delusional idiot.
Speaking of delusional: When Cynthia McKinney was a House Rep, there were plenty of people that said the same thing about her. In reality, she was an "uppity" black woman who didn't "know her place" and spoke out against Bush when he was riding an undeserved wave of popular support in the early post 9/11 days. With the help of Republicans, she was drummed out of her seat in the GA primary (an open primary). I've met her and listened to her speak; she is intelligent, compassionate and passionate, driven, and actually cares about her country. That's why the Republicans hated her and the Dems were scared of her.
These traits are likely what has gotten her where she is today: She is the presumptive nominee for president for the Green Party. The party that Nader helped bring to national attention (and helped Gore lose in 2000) has welcomed her and hoisted her upon their shoulders. Will she do to the 2008 election what Nader did in 2000? I guess it depends on how disgruntled certain Dem voters will be if their candidate of choice is not selected as the Dem candidate. Obama supporters and Clinton supporters now have the opportunity to vote for a black AND a woman all in one. If they don't want to vote Dem, they'll have an option other than McCain.
This could get interesting.
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain’s national campaign general co-chair was being paid by a Swiss bank to lobby Congress about the U.S. mortgage crisis at the same time he was advising McCain about his economic policy, federal records show.
“Countdown with Keith Olbermann” reported Tuesday night that lobbying disclosure forms, filed by the giant Swiss bank UBS, list McCain’s campaign co-chair, former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, as a lobbyist dealing specifically with legislation regarding the mortgage crisis as recently as Dec. 31, 2007.
Gramm joined the bank in 2002 and had registered as a lobbyist by 2004. UBS filed paperwork deregistering Gramm on April 18 of this year. Gramm continues to serve as a UBS vice chairman.
News of Gramm’s involvement as a paid advocate for the banking industry, simultaneous with his unpaid work on McCain’s economic policies, comes as McCain’s campaign continues to reel from the purge of four other lobbyists. Two weeks ago, McCain banned lobbyists from advising him on the same subjects covered by their lobbying work.
....
When Gramm chaired the Senate Banking Committee, he wrote and passed deregulatory legislation in more than one industry, establishing himself as a pre-eminent foe of government regulation. McCain’s March 26 speech recommended further deregulation of the banking industry as his response to the mortgage crisis.
....
In 1999, Gramm successfully undid the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, removing the decades-old wall between commercial banking, which was heavily regulated, and investment banking, which was not. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act did not extend significant new regulation to investment banking.
This is huge. McCain has said that he knows little about the economy and his taking advice from this economic Typhoid Mary is proof of it...
Speaking of McCain: Another story bubbled to the surface yesterday (we're waiting for it to break open) regarding McCain's involvement with a SmearBoat group known as "Vets For Freedom" (as opposed to the other kind that are against freedom?
). As reported by Raine yesterday, there are several prominent people that are involved in his campaign that are also members of this 527 group, including:Senators Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman, both campaign co-chairman, also both sit on the Vets for Freedom board of advisors. The group's executive director, Pete Hegseth, is on McCain's Virginia steering committee along with the group's treasurer, Wade Zirkle.
More information here... Is this even legal? Can a campaign that is subject to campaign finance laws share personnel that belong to a 527 that does NOT have campaign finance restrictions?
Speaking of the Iraq War: Bush actually tried to compare it to WWII:
"America has assumed this obligation before," Bush said in prepared remarks released by the White House. "After World War II we helped Germany and Japan build free societies and strong economies. These efforts took time and patience, and as a result Germany and Japan grew in freedom and prosperity and are now allies of the United States."
The result, Bush says, was "generations of security and peace" in the United States.
"Today we must do the same in Afghanistan and Iraq," he says in the prepared comments. "And by helping these young democracies grow in freedom and prosperity we will once again reap the benefits in generations of security and peace."
Today's wars aren't over yet. As reconstruction unfolds, the enemy keeps fighting — not national militaries but a complex mix of militias and terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Another difference: It remains in debate within the country whether the pre-emptive Iraq war has bolstered U.S. security or weakened it. Bush has expressed no doubts it was warranted.
This comes 2 months after Bush made his stupid comments about how the Iraq War is "Romantic", and he was envious of those fighting in it. This really bolsters the notion (okay - the reality) that he is a delusional idiot.
Speaking of delusional: When Cynthia McKinney was a House Rep, there were plenty of people that said the same thing about her. In reality, she was an "uppity" black woman who didn't "know her place" and spoke out against Bush when he was riding an undeserved wave of popular support in the early post 9/11 days. With the help of Republicans, she was drummed out of her seat in the GA primary (an open primary). I've met her and listened to her speak; she is intelligent, compassionate and passionate, driven, and actually cares about her country. That's why the Republicans hated her and the Dems were scared of her.
These traits are likely what has gotten her where she is today: She is the presumptive nominee for president for the Green Party. The party that Nader helped bring to national attention (and helped Gore lose in 2000) has welcomed her and hoisted her upon their shoulders. Will she do to the 2008 election what Nader did in 2000? I guess it depends on how disgruntled certain Dem voters will be if their candidate of choice is not selected as the Dem candidate. Obama supporters and Clinton supporters now have the opportunity to vote for a black AND a woman all in one. If they don't want to vote Dem, they'll have an option other than McCain.
This could get interesting.
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 12:40:22
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 12:40:22
Mornin' Everybody,
Excellent post BobR - I sat down after work last night and was dumbfounded by KO's report on Gramm. As for Cynthis McKinney - I hope against hope that all the Kyles of the country don't seriously consider voting for her - no matter how passionate and intelligent she may be - she cannot win - and a Dem win is a must for America if we are to survive as a nation that is founded on liberty and justice for all. Obama all the way :D
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Excellent post BobR - I sat down after work last night and was dumbfounded by KO's report on Gramm. As for Cynthis McKinney - I hope against hope that all the Kyles of the country don't seriously consider voting for her - no matter how passionate and intelligent she may be - she cannot win - and a Dem win is a must for America if we are to survive as a nation that is founded on liberty and justice for all. Obama all the way :D
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by 
BobR on 05/28/2008 12:51:45
BobR on 05/28/2008 12:51:45
Comment by 
Scoopster on 05/28/2008 12:52:44
Scoopster on 05/28/2008 12:52:44
So wait just a second here.. there's a possibility that the candidates for president might be:
Republican: John McCain
Democrat: Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton (just sayin.. a slim chance)
Libertarian: Bob Barr
Green: Cynthia McKinney
Independent: Ralph Nader
What the hell.. when did the minor parties get infested with the same junk that has plagued the two mainstream parties?!
Republican: John McCain
Democrat: Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton (just sayin.. a slim chance)
Libertarian: Bob Barr
Green: Cynthia McKinney
Independent: Ralph Nader
What the hell.. when did the minor parties get infested with the same junk that has plagued the two mainstream parties?!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/28/2008 12:59:05
Scoopster on 05/28/2008 12:59:05
Comment by 
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:02:55
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:02:55
Good morning everyone! having a nice cup of coffee with some of the soy milk that mz margaret left behind, and I must say, it is very good!
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:02:56
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:02:56
Good morning everyone! having a nice cup of coffee with some of the soy milk that mz margaret left behind, and I must say, it is very good!
Comment by 
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:06:50
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:06:50
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges. 
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:08:57
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:08:57
BobR,
I must take exception to your comparison of Stone with Hagee and Falwell. I do believe in Karma as in what goes around comes around. I don't think it is the same thing at all, although I'm not sure that I would blame natural disasters on manmade events or vice versa. I'm just sayin'
Cheers,
mfaye :D
I must take exception to your comparison of Stone with Hagee and Falwell. I do believe in Karma as in what goes around comes around. I don't think it is the same thing at all, although I'm not sure that I would blame natural disasters on manmade events or vice versa. I'm just sayin'
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by 
Random on 05/28/2008 13:09:33
Random on 05/28/2008 13:09:33
I can say, that Hillary clinton has a better chance of being the Nader of 2008. (probably by pulling a Lieberman type stunt).
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:12:02
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:12:02
Puffy McMoonface will be on KO next week too! 
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:12:56
of course! good morning !
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:12:56
Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:14:08
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:14:08
OK, someone needs to play the Peter Brady/Puffy McMoonface mashup.
Tel AvIV!!!
Tel AvIV!!!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/28/2008 13:16:34
This morning, and as many more as you can manage! :coffee:
Scoopster on 05/28/2008 13:16:34
Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
This morning, and as many more as you can manage! :coffee:
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:16:56
Thankees! Thank God someone recorded Jim's appearance on "According to Jim", especially I tuned in to watch and WSB was running the OCD fearmongering special.
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:16:56
Quote by Raine:of course! good morning !Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
Thankees! Thank God someone recorded Jim's appearance on "According to Jim", especially I tuned in to watch and WSB was running the OCD fearmongering special.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 13:17:44
you forgot Shemp, the new stooge.
Random on 05/28/2008 13:17:44
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
This morning, and as many more as you can manage! :coffee:
you forgot Shemp, the new stooge.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:17:46
I don't think she can get here name on all the state ballots.
Most states have a filing deadline and a pretty strict set of rules to get your name on.
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:17:46
Quote by Random:
I can say, that Hillary clinton has a better chance of being the Nader of 2008. (probably by pulling a Lieberman type stunt).
Most states have a filing deadline and a pretty strict set of rules to get your name on.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 13:18:13
Feel free to disagree.
Keep in mind though that it's the political/military leaders of China that are the cause of all the grief in Tibet, not the poor common folk most affected by the quake.
I also don't think that plate tectonics are related to karma in any way. It's a matter of geography. A more appropriate karma "response" would be the people rising up and throwing the bums out of office, or the leaders being poisoned from drinking contaminated water (because they allowed the contamination to occur), etc.
In a larger sense, I was comparing the "they are being punished for their wickedness" meme, whether it's by God or by the universe. I think it's a bad idea to assume one's self is that knowledgeable as to those finer details
BobR on 05/28/2008 13:18:13
Quote by m-hadley:
BobR,
I must take exception to your comparison of Stone with Hagee and Falwell. I do believe in Karma as in what goes around comes around. I don't think it is the same thing at all, although I'm not sure that I would blame natural disasters on manmade events or vice versa. I'm just sayin'
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Feel free to disagree.
Keep in mind though that it's the political/military leaders of China that are the cause of all the grief in Tibet, not the poor common folk most affected by the quake.
I also don't think that plate tectonics are related to karma in any way. It's a matter of geography. A more appropriate karma "response" would be the people rising up and throwing the bums out of office, or the leaders being poisoned from drinking contaminated water (because they allowed the contamination to occur), etc.
In a larger sense, I was comparing the "they are being punished for their wickedness" meme, whether it's by God or by the universe. I think it's a bad idea to assume one's self is that knowledgeable as to those finer details
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:19:13
oh... I so rarely watch network TV. We watched KO...
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:19:13
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:of course! good morning !Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
Thankees! Thank God someone recorded Jim's appearance on "According to Jim", especially I tuned in to watch and WSB was running the OCD fearmongering special.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 13:21:06
Doesn't mean she won't try. She may just do it to sabatoge Obama, spite...course, I'm a "Branch Obamacan" (stealing Clay's chant)
Random on 05/28/2008 13:21:06
Quote by Raine:I don't think she can get here name on all the state ballots.Quote by Random:
I can say, that Hillary clinton has a better chance of being the Nader of 2008. (probably by pulling a Lieberman type stunt).
Most states have a filing deadline and a pretty strict set of rules to get your name on.
Doesn't mean she won't try. She may just do it to sabatoge Obama, spite...course, I'm a "Branch Obamacan" (stealing Clay's chant)
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:22:10
Oh, I wish we had cable so's I can watch The Keith! I have to be satisfied with coverage on C&L. Maybe if this teaching job comes through.
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:22:10
Quote by Raine:oh... I so rarely watch network TV. We watched KO...Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:of course! good morning !Quote by clintster:
Morning guys. Is it okay if I hang out here this AM? I just don't know how much more I can take of liveblarging with the Three Stooges.
Thankees! Thank God someone recorded Jim's appearance on "According to Jim", especially I tuned in to watch and WSB was running the OCD fearmongering special.
Oh, I wish we had cable so's I can watch The Keith! I have to be satisfied with coverage on C&L. Maybe if this teaching job comes through.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 13:22:47
I don't see that happening. She's too invested in the Dem power structure.
BobR on 05/28/2008 13:22:47
Quote by Random:
Doesn't mean she won't try. She may just do it to sabatoge Obama, spite...course, I'm a "Branch Obamacan" (stealing Clay's chant)
I don't see that happening. She's too invested in the Dem power structure.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 13:23:56
I know...just a thought.
Random on 05/28/2008 13:23:56
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Doesn't mean she won't try. She may just do it to sabatoge Obama, spite...course, I'm a "Branch Obamacan" (stealing Clay's chant)
I don't see that happening. She's too invested in the Dem power structure.
I know...just a thought.
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:25:47
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:25:47
Thompson Twins!! It's like every high school dance I went to in the 80s!
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:26:17
BobR,
My coffee has not kicked in yet, you make some good points about who is getting their respective butts kicked - I agree that the earthquake had little impact on those who are causing the grief in Tibet. Just another reason why I like this blog so much, through discussion my eyes are opened wider and I can see more and better :D
Thanks.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:26:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by m-hadley:
BobR,
I must take exception to your comparison of Stone with Hagee and Falwell. I do believe in Karma as in what goes around comes around. I don't think it is the same thing at all, although I'm not sure that I would blame natural disasters on manmade events or vice versa. I'm just sayin'
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Feel free to disagree.
Keep in mind though that it's the political/military leaders of China that are the cause of all the grief in Tibet, not the poor common folk most affected by the quake.
I also don't think that plate tectonics are related to karma in any way. It's a matter of geography. A more appropriate karma "response" would be the people rising up and throwing the bums out of office, or the leaders being poisoned from drinking contaminated water (because they allowed the contamination to occur), etc.
In a larger sense, I was comparing the "they are being punished for their wickedness" meme, whether it's by God or by the universe. I think it's a bad idea to assume one's self is that knowledgeable as to those finer details
BobR,
My coffee has not kicked in yet, you make some good points about who is getting their respective butts kicked - I agree that the earthquake had little impact on those who are causing the grief in Tibet. Just another reason why I like this blog so much, through discussion my eyes are opened wider and I can see more and better :D
Thanks.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:28:22
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:28:22
:xfingers: Clinster!
Random, I do agree with you about her trying. There is right now, I think it is going to happen today a lawsuit that will be heard in Florida regarding the delegates... YES, a lawsuit... after watching *Recount* last night it makes it all more appalling to me.
if the suit goes the way of the plaintiffs, it will make the DNC rulles committee this weekend rather moot.
Random, I do agree with you about her trying. There is right now, I think it is going to happen today a lawsuit that will be heard in Florida regarding the delegates... YES, a lawsuit... after watching *Recount* last night it makes it all more appalling to me.
if the suit goes the way of the plaintiffs, it will make the DNC rulles committee this weekend rather moot.
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:28:24
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:28:24
If I get any kind of O'Reilly crap for Father's Day, I may have to...
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:29:47
I suffer from Earworms, thanks to the SMS show. Actually, everyone around me does... :P
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:29:47
Quote by clintster:
Thompson Twins!! It's like every high school dance I went to in the 80s!
I suffer from Earworms, thanks to the SMS show. Actually, everyone around me does... :P
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:29:53
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:29:53
BTB, I'm on the ref desk this morning, so I can't stream Steph and the Mooks. Let me know if she reads a letter from Lurlene (I sent one in :D) Thanks mucho.
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 13:31:31
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 13:31:31
Good morning, bloggers!
Excellent entry, BobR. McCain is no more of a maverick than I am a hobbit.
The UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to check them out.
By the way, a Bush ally is in big trouble.
Hmm, so I wonder if we will see BARACK Obama and Ehud BARAK meet next year if both gain the leadership of their respective countries. Hmm, Barack meets Barak.
Excellent entry, BobR. McCain is no more of a maverick than I am a hobbit.
The UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to check them out.
By the way, a Bush ally is in big trouble.
Barak tells Olmert: Quit or face elections
By Ofra Edelman and Tomer Zarchin, Haaretz Correspondents, and Agencies
Tags: Ehud Barak, Morris Talansky
Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Wednesday called on Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to leave his post or prepare for early elections, saying he did not believe the premier was capable of simultaneously leading the country and dealing with his personal matters.
The call comes a day after Jewish American businessman Morris Talansky told a preliminary hearing at Jerusalem Magistrates Court on Tuesday that he gave Olmert $150,000 over a period of 15 years. The testimony is part of an investigation into Olmert, who is suspected of illegally receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from Talansky.
"I do not think the prime minister can run, in parallel, the government and deal with his own personal affair," Barak told a news conference at the Knesset press room in Jerusalem on Wednesday.
"Therefore, out of a sense of what is good for the country and in accordance with the proper norms, I think the prime minister must disconnect himself from the daily running of the government.
Hmm, so I wonder if we will see BARACK Obama and Ehud BARAK meet next year if both gain the leadership of their respective countries. Hmm, Barack meets Barak.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:33:47
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:33:47
My concern about the SMS blog is that once we get to the GE, those trolls there now will look like small time.
And for those that do not have the KO, here is the KO segment regarding Phill Gramm:
And for those that do not have the KO, here is the KO segment regarding Phill Gramm:
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 13:35:39
It's sad that we'd destroy structure and rules, just to win. And the B.S. that goes with it.
This new talking point about the Obama Great-Uncle mistake is kind of lame.
Random on 05/28/2008 13:35:39
Quote by Raine:
:xfingers: Clinster!
Random, I do agree with you about her trying. There is right now, I think it is going to happen today a lawsuit that will be heard in Florida regarding the delegates... YES, a lawsuit... after watching *Recount* last night it makes it all more appalling to me.
if the suit goes the way of the plaintiffs, it will make the DNC rulles committee this weekend rather moot.
It's sad that we'd destroy structure and rules, just to win. And the B.S. that goes with it.
This new talking point about the Obama Great-Uncle mistake is kind of lame.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:38:43
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:38:43
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:46:27
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:46:27
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:48:15
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:48:15
I am amazed at the Stooges' continuous circus act at the liveblog. It's the same every day:
1) Insult Obama
2) Insult Steph and the Mooks
3) Act defensive when called out on it
4) ???
5) Profit
Lather, rinse, repeat
I've tried changing the subject, I've tried engaging them on a non-confrontational level, but it seems they're determined to just pee in everybody's Cheerios.
1) Insult Obama
2) Insult Steph and the Mooks
3) Act defensive when called out on it
4) ???
5) Profit
Lather, rinse, repeat
I've tried changing the subject, I've tried engaging them on a non-confrontational level, but it seems they're determined to just pee in everybody's Cheerios.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:48:15
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:48:15
For those that are lurking... hello!
:poke: :star:ling,
I know I missed a few people...
:poke: :star:ling,
I know I missed a few people...
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:49:29
I had to bag the SMS Live Blog this morning, 'cause I was called a troll by ultimate troll-his-own-self Clay (takes one to know one
- if it's got me saying such juvenile things - it's time to go, me thinks 
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:49:29
Quote by Raine:
My concern about the SMS blog is that once we get to the GE, those trolls there now will look like small time.
And for those that do not have the KO, here is the KO segment regarding Phill Gramm:
I had to bag the SMS Live Blog this morning, 'cause I was called a troll by ultimate troll-his-own-self Clay (takes one to know one
- if it's got me saying such juvenile things - it's time to go, me thinks Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:51:08
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:51:08
They are trolls pure and simple. I refuse to engage them. I like so many people's comments over there, but when one or 2 people are pissing in the cornflakes, it just isn't fun.
I mean it is fine to disagree about things... but insults, strawmanning and using red herring are NOT the way to debate and communicate.
They would not last long at all here, THAT I can promise.
I mean it is fine to disagree about things... but insults, strawmanning and using red herring are NOT the way to debate and communicate.
They would not last long at all here, THAT I can promise.
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:53:24
And for that I am eternally thankful!
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:53:24
Quote by Raine:
They are trolls pure and simple. I refuse to engage them. I like so many people's comments over there, but when one or 2 people are pissing in the cornflakes, it just isn't fun.
I mean it is fine to disagree about things... but insults, strawmanning and using red herring are NOT the way to debate and communicate.
They would not last long at all here, THAT I can promise.
And for that I am eternally thankful!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:55:03
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:55:03
Morning all :hug:
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:56:13
Clintster,
I mean no offense by this inquiry, but what the hell is your symbol supposed to be? A bunny with a coolie hat? A hamster that morphed with a mushroom? Please enlighten me - thanks mucho :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 13:56:13
Quote by clintster:
I am amazed at the Stooges' continuous circus act at the liveblog. It's the same every day:
1) Insult Obama
2) Insult Steph and the Mooks
3) Act defensive when called out on it
4) ???
5) Profit
Lather, rinse, repeat
I've tried changing the subject, I've tried engaging them on a non-confrontational level, but it seems they're determined to just pee in everybody's Cheerios.
Clintster,
I mean no offense by this inquiry, but what the hell is your symbol supposed to be? A bunny with a coolie hat? A hamster that morphed with a mushroom? Please enlighten me - thanks mucho :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 13:57:31
does our lovely home have an eject button?
Random on 05/28/2008 13:57:31
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
They are trolls pure and simple. I refuse to engage them. I like so many people's comments over there, but when one or 2 people are pissing in the cornflakes, it just isn't fun.
I mean it is fine to disagree about things... but insults, strawmanning and using red herring are NOT the way to debate and communicate.
They would not last long at all here, THAT I can promise.
And for that I am eternally thankful!
does our lovely home have an eject button?
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 13:58:02
clintster on 05/28/2008 13:58:02
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:58:48
That is Oolong our favorite bunny :D
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:58:48
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by clintster:
I am amazed at the Stooges' continuous circus act at the liveblog. It's the same every day:
1) Insult Obama
2) Insult Steph and the Mooks
3) Act defensive when called out on it
4) ???
5) Profit
Lather, rinse, repeat
I've tried changing the subject, I've tried engaging them on a non-confrontational level, but it seems they're determined to just pee in everybody's Cheerios.
Clintster,
I mean no offense by this inquiry, but what the hell is your symbol supposed to be? A bunny with a coolie hat? A hamster that morphed with a mushroom? Please enlighten me - thanks mucho :D
Cheers,
mfaye
That is Oolong our favorite bunny :D
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/28/2008 13:59:06
livingonli on 05/28/2008 13:59:06
Good morning all. 
I caught the 2 AM Keith Olbermann after getting home last night. Phil Gramm talks about the wonder of the free market system when he rigs the game so that it makes him and his cronies rich while screwing everyone else.
As someone who's become downwardly mobile under the Bush Administration, I am bitter indeed.
I caught the 2 AM Keith Olbermann after getting home last night. Phil Gramm talks about the wonder of the free market system when he rigs the game so that it makes him and his cronies rich while screwing everyone else.
As someone who's become downwardly mobile under the Bush Administration, I am bitter indeed.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:59:25
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 13:59:25
Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 13:59:25
Raine on 05/28/2008 13:59:25
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 14:00:39
Faye, it's a bunny with a pancake on its head. It's based on the picture seen here:
http://heresabunnywithapancakeonitshead.com/
clintster on 05/28/2008 14:00:39
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by clintster:
I am amazed at the Stooges' continuous circus act at the liveblog. It's the same every day:
1) Insult Obama
2) Insult Steph and the Mooks
3) Act defensive when called out on it
4) ???
5) Profit
Lather, rinse, repeat
I've tried changing the subject, I've tried engaging them on a non-confrontational level, but it seems they're determined to just pee in everybody's Cheerios.
Clintster,
I mean no offense by this inquiry, but what the hell is your symbol supposed to be? A bunny with a coolie hat? A hamster that morphed with a mushroom? Please enlighten me - thanks mucho :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Faye, it's a bunny with a pancake on its head. It's based on the picture seen here:
http://heresabunnywithapancakeonitshead.com/
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:00:53
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:00:53
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:01:05
I do it all the time.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:01:05
Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
I do it all the time.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 14:01:27
Vee haff vays off makhing the... undesireables... disahpear! :: laughs maniacally while squinting through monacle ::
BobR on 05/28/2008 14:01:27
Quote by Random:
does our lovely home have an eject button?
Vee haff vays off makhing the... undesireables... disahpear! :: laughs maniacally while squinting through monacle ::
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:02:21
You must have missed that on the Stephanie Miller newscast.
When does 3WT start airing the first hour of the show?
livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:02:21
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
You must have missed that on the Stephanie Miller newscast.
When does 3WT start airing the first hour of the show?
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:02:29
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:02:29
Okay I just had a mind meld with the Phoneix station news 
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 14:02:45
:nerd:
BobR on 05/28/2008 14:02:45
Quote by Raine:
For those that are lurking... hello!
:poke: :star:ling,
I know I missed a few people...
:nerd:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:03:03
sometime in June. I can't wait!
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:03:03
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
You must have missed that on the Stephanie Miller newscast.
When does 3WT start airing the first hour of the show?
sometime in June. I can't wait!
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 14:03:23
Random on 05/28/2008 14:03:23
I've been insulted in the SMS blog.
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 14:03:29
Sorry, Pam!
You got caught between me and liveblogging Steph's FunStack.
clintster on 05/28/2008 14:03:29
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
Sorry, Pam!
You got caught between me and liveblogging Steph's FunStack.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:03:32
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:03:32
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:05:19
Awesome.... 
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:05:19
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:05:34
No worries :hug:
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:05:34
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' Pam!
Yeah, it's always a good move to drop your pants in court and ask for sexual favours!
wow! that was a nonsequitar! :o
Sorry, Pam!
No worries :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:06:32
consider the source.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:06:32
Quote by Random:
I've been insulted in the SMS blog.
consider the source.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:07:41
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:07:41
Found it!
oolong. ok, my Oolong obsession is over.
oolong. ok, my Oolong obsession is over.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 14:09:02
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Random on 05/28/2008 14:09:02
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I've been insulted in the SMS blog.
consider the source.
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:09:35
Was it one of the Three Stooges?
livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:09:35
Quote by Random:
I've been insulted in the SMS blog.
Was it one of the Three Stooges?
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:09:54
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:09:54
Wow. They actually just gave the trolls the time of day.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:10:58
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:10:58
bark park
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:11:54
Oohhh - yeah I'd be po'd too.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:11:54
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I've been insulted in the SMS blog.
consider the source.
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Oohhh - yeah I'd be po'd too.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:12:00
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:12:00
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 14:12:01
clintster on 05/28/2008 14:12:01
I was impressed with Chris just now! Way to call out the Stooges.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:12:40
IT is very lame - I have a great aunt name Gussie who is about 94. (No one is sure, as the records were not that great in Eastern Europe at the time.) Sometimes, I call her AUNT Gussie when I talk about her - especially to older relatives.
So, how is this more significant than John McCain's ties to lobbyists, Gramm's influence on McCain's housing policy, or McCain's confusing of Sunni with Shia?
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:12:40
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
:xfingers: Clinster!
Random, I do agree with you about her trying. There is right now, I think it is going to happen today a lawsuit that will be heard in Florida regarding the delegates... YES, a lawsuit... after watching *Recount* last night it makes it all more appalling to me.
if the suit goes the way of the plaintiffs, it will make the DNC rulles committee this weekend rather moot.
It's sad that we'd destroy structure and rules, just to win. And the B.S. that goes with it.
This new talking point about the Obama Great-Uncle mistake is kind of lame.
IT is very lame - I have a great aunt name Gussie who is about 94. (No one is sure, as the records were not that great in Eastern Europe at the time.) Sometimes, I call her AUNT Gussie when I talk about her - especially to older relatives.
So, how is this more significant than John McCain's ties to lobbyists, Gramm's influence on McCain's housing policy, or McCain's confusing of Sunni with Shia?
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 14:14:38
That being one of the points they make, the other being Him saying Aushwitz, when his great uncle was part of the regiment that liberated B...something...got, i look like an idiot now.
Random on 05/28/2008 14:14:38
Quote by will in chicago:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
:xfingers: Clinster!
Random, I do agree with you about her trying. There is right now, I think it is going to happen today a lawsuit that will be heard in Florida regarding the delegates... YES, a lawsuit... after watching *Recount* last night it makes it all more appalling to me.
if the suit goes the way of the plaintiffs, it will make the DNC rulles committee this weekend rather moot.
It's sad that we'd destroy structure and rules, just to win. And the B.S. that goes with it.
This new talking point about the Obama Great-Uncle mistake is kind of lame.
IT is very lame - I have a great aunt name Gussie who is about 94. (No one is sure, as the records were not that great in Eastern Europe at the time.) Sometimes, I call her AUNT Gussie when I talk about her - especially to older relatives.
So, how is this more significant than John McCain's ties to lobbyists, Gramm's influence on McCain's housing policy, or McCain's confusing of Sunni with Shia?
That being one of the points they make, the other being Him saying Aushwitz, when his great uncle was part of the regiment that liberated B...something...got, i look like an idiot now.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:18:05
Strawmanning at it very best.
=====================================================
Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:18:05
Quote by Random:
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Strawmanning at it very best.
=====================================================
Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 14:22:09
O.o i'm a lil hurt by that...*sulks*
(
Random's ego minute for the day.
Random on 05/28/2008 14:22:09
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
O.o i'm a lil hurt by that...*sulks*
(
Random's ego minute for the day.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 14:22:43
Raine, Mala & Clintster,
Thanks so much for that slice of 4F history - I love my pancakes so much better when they are served on a bunny's head :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 14:22:43
Quote by Raine:
Faye, that is oolong the rabbit!
WE call it pancake punny, You can read about Oolong here.
Raine, Mala & Clintster,
Thanks so much for that slice of 4F history - I love my pancakes so much better when they are served on a bunny's head :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:23:27
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:23:27
The entire WWII thing is nothing more than fake outrage to me. The right wing is gonna try to make it a huge deal. In the mean time... once again they don't have to pay attention to McSaim.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:26:15
Tell me when it over.
:D
to tell you the truth, I am still trying to learn who to defend myself when I am strawmanned. I can do it when the things are written ... like on message boards, but when it is done to me face to face, I lose all patience.
So, I usually
and walk away.
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:26:15
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
O.o i'm a lil hurt by that...*sulks*
(
:D
to tell you the truth, I am still trying to learn who to defend myself when I am strawmanned. I can do it when the things are written ... like on message boards, but when it is done to me face to face, I lose all patience.
So, I usually
and walk away.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:28:19
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:28:19
Please, I, like will, have many great aunts and uncles and I call them aunt and uncle. We NEVER clarified that they were great or anything like that.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 14:28:36
must...not...stare.
I came to the defense of the guy Donnie used it against. And i think Donnie finally relized it was me.
Random on 05/28/2008 14:28:36
Quote by Raine:Tell me when it over.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
O.o. That's not the point. one of the trolls used one of my posts to attack someone else. I don't like being misrepresented...one of my pet-peeves.
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
O.o i'm a lil hurt by that...*sulks*
(
:D
to tell you the truth, I am still trying to learn who to defend myself when I am strawmanned. I can do it when the things are written ... like on message boards, but when it is done to me face to face, I lose all patience.
So, I usually
must...not...stare.
I came to the defense of the guy Donnie used it against. And i think Donnie finally relized it was me.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:31:10
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:31:10
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:32:51
livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:32:51
God, I need to stop reading the SMS live blog. It is just a pit stain over there. I really wish producerchris would put a stop to the crap over there. He called them out but they are still there spewing Fox News talking points.
On the relative note, I was raised by foster parents, but I always called them Mom and Dad, I never added the foster tag. I often had to explain that to people because I didn't share the last name as them. But they raised me since I was 2 months old, so they were for all practical purposes, family.
On the relative note, I was raised by foster parents, but I always called them Mom and Dad, I never added the foster tag. I often had to explain that to people because I didn't share the last name as them. But they raised me since I was 2 months old, so they were for all practical purposes, family.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:33:00
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:33:00
Here is something to chear people up:
John Bolton to be target of citizen's arrest at Hay Festival
By Stephen Adams, Arts Correspondent
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, faces a citizen's arrest when he addresses an audience at the Hay Festival in Wales this evening.
George Monbiot, the journalist and activist, is planning the action because he believes Mr Bolton is a "war criminal".
He said he was surprised that Mr Bolton would be allowed to "swim through the politest of polite soirees – which is of course Hay."
Mr Bolton, who was the American ambassador to the UN from August 2005 to January 2006, is due to talk at the Hay-on-Wye literary festival at 6.30pm on international relations.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:37:06
I thought that was normal procedure.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 14:37:06
Quote by Raine:
Please, I, like will, have many great aunts and uncles and I call them aunt and uncle. We NEVER clarified that they were great or anything like that.
I thought that was normal procedure.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:39:39
The GOP stalking points are beginning to remind me of a saying from Euripides: Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.
And he is my corollary for today:
For some of them, Euripides, it would be a very short drive indeed.
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:39:39
Quote by Raine:
Please, I, like will, have many great aunts and uncles and I call them aunt and uncle. We NEVER clarified that they were great or anything like that.
The GOP stalking points are beginning to remind me of a saying from Euripides: Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.
And he is my corollary for today:
For some of them, Euripides, it would be a very short drive indeed.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 14:43:24
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 14:43:24
I wanna marry that Wall between Commercial Banks and Investment Banks that Phil Gramm tore down!!!
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:45:13
They don't have the staff to moderate the blog. This I know.
YOu know, regarding this tagging of our relatives liv, you made me realize that this is once again the RW trying to reframe WHAT people consider as family in this nation.
I despise the RW reframing.
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:45:13
Quote by livingonli:
God, I need to stop reading the SMS live blog. It is just a pit stain over there. I really wish producerchris would put a stop to the crap over there. He called them out but they are still there spewing Fox News talking points.
On the relative note, I was raised by foster parents, but I always called them Mom and Dad, I never added the foster tag. I often had to explain that to people because I didn't share the last name as them. But they raised me since I was 2 months old, so they were for all practical purposes, family.
YOu know, regarding this tagging of our relatives liv, you made me realize that this is once again the RW trying to reframe WHAT people consider as family in this nation.
I despise the RW reframing.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:47:48
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 14:47:48
More on McCain and his friends, courtesy of NBC:
The conflicts of interest here in this story remind me of some of the tactics of Chicago politicians - IOTC was the ONLY company that could meet the criteria of the contract.
Crossing Jordan: Iraq fuel deal sparks lawsuit
Exclusive
By Aram Roston
Investigative producer
NBC News
updated 5:32 a.m. CT, Wed., May. 28, 2008
A little-noticed civil lawsuit in Florida is shining a light on an unusual but hugely profitable Pentagon contract to ship millions of gallons of aviation fuel to U.S. bases in Iraq through the kingdom of Jordan.
The deal involves a cast of influential characters, including the king of Jordan’s brother-in-law, who is suing Harry Sargeant III, a top Florida-based fundraiser for Sen. John McCain's presidential bid.
Sargeant is a Florida businessman and former Marine Corps pilot hailed by the McCain campaign as a "Trailblazer" for raising $100,000 or more in political donations. Through a company called International Oil Trading Co., or IOTC, Sargeant and a partner have a lucrative contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars per year to supply American military forces in Iraq with fuel, especially aviation fuel. The firm ships the fuel to Jordan and then trucks it across the border, where U.S. forces escort the convoys to air bases.
The conflicts of interest here in this story remind me of some of the tactics of Chicago politicians - IOTC was the ONLY company that could meet the criteria of the contract.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 14:48:51
:clap:
Raine on 05/28/2008 14:48:51
Quote by m-hadley:
I wanna marry that Wall between Commercial Banks and Investment Banks that Phil Gramm tore down!!!
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:57:06
livingonli on 05/28/2008 14:57:06
I hope family didn't kill the blog.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 15:02:22
Random on 05/28/2008 15:02:22
I think the SMS live blog is going to get unbearable...it's sad.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:03:46
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:03:46
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 15:05:27
My ma doesn't.
Course i have the view that anyone who buys a ticket to the movie should be dragged out an shot...but then again, i'm weird like that.
Random on 05/28/2008 15:05:27
Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
My ma doesn't.
Course i have the view that anyone who buys a ticket to the movie should be dragged out an shot...but then again, i'm weird like that.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:06:15
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:06:15
Family didn't kill the blog... I was scouring the internets for stories... rtyig to make some sense of the RBC meeting this weekend. it looks like only half the possinle delegates will get seated... and if I am correct, that is less than what Michigan originally offered up... they said they would like a 60-40 split, the HRC campaign said no.
So if they are NOW only to seat half of the delegates, that makes her worse off than before. I think.
So if they are NOW only to seat half of the delegates, that makes her worse off than before. I think.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:07:05
livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:07:05
Right now my next two movies are the Indiana Jones movie and possibly the Hulk one.
But then again, I'm a guy.
But then again, I'm a guy.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:08:25
I was going there everyday to at least tell them about our bloggie here... I hope that people know they do NOT need a personal inviatation to come over here. But our door is open for people.
Always has been.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:08:25
Quote by Random:
I think the SMS live blog is going to get unbearable...it's sad.
Always has been.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 15:09:05
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 15:09:05
Thank goodness we all have this vonderbar blog to come home to...
Yeah rah - thank goddess.
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Yeah rah - thank goddess.
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:09:58
Gonna try and see Indy this weekend.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:09:58
Quote by livingonli:
Right now my next two movies are the Indiana Jones movie and possibly the Hulk one.
But then again, I'm a guy.
Gonna try and see Indy this weekend.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 15:10:19
Ugh...not the Hulk.
I may see the M. Night movie. Wall-e
I've seen the Indy movie.
Random on 05/28/2008 15:10:19
Quote by livingonli:
Right now my next two movies are the Indiana Jones movie and possibly the Hulk one.
But then again, I'm a guy.
Ugh...not the Hulk.
I may see the M. Night movie. Wall-e
I've seen the Indy movie.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 15:10:26
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 15:10:26
yeah Rebekah - you go grrrl 
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:12:52
I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:12:52
Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:14:38
I never got the appeal of the show - maybe it's just me
I don't read "chick lit" either.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:14:38
Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
I never got the appeal of the show - maybe it's just me
I don't read "chick lit" either.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 15:16:02
EVIL!!!!
Random on 05/28/2008 15:16:02
Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
EVIL!!!!
Comment by clintster on 05/28/2008 15:16:28
clintster on 05/28/2008 15:16:28
Oh hurray. SMH finally responded to me pointing out that a letter to the editor in one of the most right-wing papers in the nation is not a sign of Obamasization, and he still thinks that the Chronicle is some sort of Barack front organization.
That's it, I'm outta there; screw those guys, I'm comin' home.
That's it, I'm outta there; screw those guys, I'm comin' home.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:19:55
livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:19:55
The interesting thing about the next batch of movies is how they are supposed to lead up. Robert Downey Jr. makes a cameo as Tony Stark in the new Hulk movie (they are acting as if the Ang Lee movie didn't happen)..
Then coming down the pike there will be a Captain America movie, a Thor movie, a Nick Fury movie (with Samuel Jackson this time playing the Agent of SHIELD), Iron Man II and they will eventually lead up to an Avengers movie.
A brief history of the Comic Book Avengers.
Then coming down the pike there will be a Captain America movie, a Thor movie, a Nick Fury movie (with Samuel Jackson this time playing the Agent of SHIELD), Iron Man II and they will eventually lead up to an Avengers movie.
A brief history of the Comic Book Avengers.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:19:59
:boobs2:
:D
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:19:59
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
EVIL!!!!
:D
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:21:26
I really think some of those guys are freepers in disguise as HRC supporters.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:21:26
Quote by clintster:
Oh hurray. SMH finally responded to me pointing out that a letter to the editor in one of the most right-wing papers in the nation is not a sign of Obamasization, and he still thinks that the Chronicle is some sort of Barack front organization.
That's it, I'm outta there; screw those guys, I'm comin' home.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:23:08
You seem to like more of the "guy" things like Sci-Fi. Or at least the more geeky things.
You just haven't gone as far as reading comic books like I do.
:someone shouts nerd in background:
livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:23:08
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
I never got the appeal of the show - maybe it's just me
You seem to like more of the "guy" things like Sci-Fi. Or at least the more geeky things.
You just haven't gone as far as reading comic books like I do.
:someone shouts nerd in background:
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:23:43
Well for me it was the title that got me. 2 of my favourite things. I loved the writing on it as well. Great story lines, funny sometimes a little over the top but well, I dunno. I loved the show. That was my sunday nights for a few years. Just me and the 5 girls.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:23:43
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
I never got the appeal of the show - maybe it's just me
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:25:02
I wondered if any of them are paid plants and are getting paid to troll there whether by the HRC camp or the GOP camp. SMH today screwed up and outed himself out as a McCain supporter.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:25:02
Quote by Raine:I really think some of those guys are freepers in disguise as HRC supporters.Quote by clintster:
Oh hurray. SMH finally responded to me pointing out that a letter to the editor in one of the most right-wing papers in the nation is not a sign of Obamasization, and he still thinks that the Chronicle is some sort of Barack front organization.
That's it, I'm outta there; screw those guys, I'm comin' home.
I wondered if any of them are paid plants and are getting paid to troll there whether by the HRC camp or the GOP camp. SMH today screwed up and outed himself out as a McCain supporter.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 15:26:31
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 15:26:31
More election news.
There is an interesting story from the Associated Press showing that McCain's base of support is not as strong as it seems.
I posted this over at UNN and Steph's blog, where the battle continues among Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters. (I do not like the primitive technical level of the blog there - can't post long urls without them stretching over the page - or some of the tone.)
There is an interesting story from the Associated Press showing that McCain's base of support is not as strong as it seems.
Obama competitive against McCain with key voters
By ALAN FRAM
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Barack Obama has done poorly in the Democratic primaries with women, Catholics and others who will be pivotal in this fall's presidential election. Yet early polling shows that with several of these groups, he's competitive when matched against Republican John McCain.
A look at voters who have been closely contested in recent presidential elections - or veered from one party to the other, making them true swing groups - shows a significant number have leaned toward Obama's rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in the primaries. Besides women and Catholics, these include the elderly, the less educated and suburbanites, leading Clinton to argue that this makes her the Democrats' stronger candidate for the fall campaign.
Yet Obama's performance with these voters in the primaries doesn't necessarily mean he'd do poorly with them in the general election, assuming he nails down the last few convention delegates he needs to win the nomination.
I posted this over at UNN and Steph's blog, where the battle continues among Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters. (I do not like the primitive technical level of the blog there - can't post long urls without them stretching over the page - or some of the tone.)
Comment by wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:27:32
Don't think too many "guys" will watch Pride and Predjudice (the long PBS version with Colin Firth *sigh* as Mr. Darcy)
I like a good mix of things but overly girly or overly guy push me away.
wickedpam on 05/28/2008 15:27:32
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I have a confession... I will be going to see it. I am NOT crazy obsessed, but I will be going. And I will be leaving Bobber at home.Quote by wickedpam:
LIberal Confession -
I feel like I'm the only woman in the US who could care less about the Sex and the City movie....
I never got the appeal of the show - maybe it's just me
You seem to like more of the "guy" things like Sci-Fi. Or at least the more geeky things.
You just haven't gone as far as reading comic books like I do.
:someone shouts nerd in background:
Don't think too many "guys" will watch Pride and Predjudice (the long PBS version with Colin Firth *sigh* as Mr. Darcy)
I like a good mix of things but overly girly or overly guy push me away.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:36:25
Edit for typo.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:36:25
Quote by Raine:
This is probably old news but it still deserves an OMG.
That is a real Tattoo.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:41:48
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:41:48
SMH finally outed himself, eh? Part of Operation Chaos, perhaps?
Tools.
Tools.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:48:00
This story is an important one. the conflation of the dems in the primaries to the General election has been something that has reallly bothered me. the AP is calling that to task.
Obama will do fine in the General election I really believe this. McCain is having baggage being left all over the place. It WILL catch up to him.
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:48:00
Quote by will in chicago:
More election news.
There is an interesting story from the Associated Press showing that McCain's base of support is not as strong as it seems.Obama competitive against McCain with key voters
By ALAN FRAM
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Barack Obama has done poorly in the Democratic primaries with women, Catholics and others who will be pivotal in this fall's presidential election. Yet early polling shows that with several of these groups, he's competitive when matched against Republican John McCain.
A look at voters who have been closely contested in recent presidential elections - or veered from one party to the other, making them true swing groups - shows a significant number have leaned toward Obama's rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in the primaries. Besides women and Catholics, these include the elderly, the less educated and suburbanites, leading Clinton to argue that this makes her the Democrats' stronger candidate for the fall campaign.
Yet Obama's performance with these voters in the primaries doesn't necessarily mean he'd do poorly with them in the general election, assuming he nails down the last few convention delegates he needs to win the nomination.
I posted this over at UNN and Steph's blog, where the battle continues among Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters. (I do not like the primitive technical level of the blog there - can't post long urls without them stretching over the page - or some of the tone.)
Obama will do fine in the General election I really believe this. McCain is having baggage being left all over the place. It WILL catch up to him.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:49:19
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:49:19
SCott is doing the HRC messaging. This is EXACTLY what the conferenace calls have been telling the people who are blogging as HRC reporters.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:53:46
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:53:46
McCain having campaign problems?
How sad...
How sad...
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:55:46
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:55:46
I lost my Pheonix stream... :(
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 15:56:19
BobR on 05/28/2008 15:56:19
McCain says "we'll never surrendor in Iraq"... Does he know what "surrendor" means? He's saying we'll never allow our government and lands to be controlled by... whom exactly? Well duh....
Walking away from a war in foreign country is not surrendoring. Did we "surrendor" to N. Vietnam? Last time I checked, we weren't being controlled by them.
Walking away from a war in foreign country is not surrendoring. Did we "surrendor" to N. Vietnam? Last time I checked, we weren't being controlled by them.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:57:45
I need to bring out the extra teeny violin.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 15:57:45
Quote by Raine:
McCain having campaign problems?
How sad...
I need to bring out the extra teeny violin.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 15:58:22
Raine on 05/28/2008 15:58:22
Oh dear... the hot pepper talk... I eagerly await that conversation.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 16:06:48
he should double date with the woman who is married to the Berlin wall.
Raine on 05/28/2008 16:06:48
Quote by Scoopster:
The WTF link of the day.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 16:24:10
the exhaust pipe??? OUCH!
It kind of makes me wonder if during his "gay" sex if he's a top or a bottom?... :wacko:
BobR on 05/28/2008 16:24:10
Quote by Scoopster:
The WTF link of the day.
the exhaust pipe??? OUCH!
It kind of makes me wonder if during his "gay" sex if he's a top or a bottom?... :wacko:
Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/28/2008 16:33:20
IzzyBitz on 05/28/2008 16:33:20
The antenna might bring new meaning to the phrase, "Tickle my ass with a feather." 
Comment by Scoopster on 05/28/2008 16:43:32
Scoopster on 05/28/2008 16:43:32
This crap that Hillary's handlers and her more abrasive fanboys are trying to pull is really getting out of hand.
FL Court throws out lawsuit against DNC, appeal pending to SCOTUS
Hillary's email to superdelegates (INCLUDES MAPS DONE BY KARL ROVE)
FL Court throws out lawsuit against DNC, appeal pending to SCOTUS
Hillary's email to superdelegates (INCLUDES MAPS DONE BY KARL ROVE)
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/28/2008 16:47:56
TALLYHO!
TriSec on 05/28/2008 16:47:56
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:10:58
I am glad the Lawsuit got thrown out... THANKS for the follow up with that one Scoop.
AS for the email... this is just getting to the point that it is embarassing.
And, to a certain friend of mine out there, who lurks..... DO NOT accuse me of attacking HRC... THIS is the kind of thing I am talking about. it is just NOT what I want after having to deal with 8 f*cking long years of this crap.
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:10:58
Quote by Scoopster:
This crap that Hillary's handlers and her more abrasive fanboys are trying to pull is really getting out of hand.
FL Court throws out lawsuit against DNC, appeal pending to SCOTUS
Hillary's email to superdelegates (INCLUDES MAPS DONE BY KARL ROVE)
I am glad the Lawsuit got thrown out... THANKS for the follow up with that one Scoop.
AS for the email... this is just getting to the point that it is embarassing.
And, to a certain friend of mine out there, who lurks..... DO NOT accuse me of attacking HRC... THIS is the kind of thing I am talking about. it is just NOT what I want after having to deal with 8 f*cking long years of this crap.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:11:09
livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:11:09
Now SMH is actually arguing that the Armenian genocide never happened. 
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:12:46
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:12:46
:grumble:
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:16:49
Why do people even bother with that shit?
People like that are just not worth the energy it takes to fight the hate they spew. Step over them and fight the REAL battles.
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:16:49
Quote by livingonli:
Now SMH is actually arguing that the Armenian genocide never happened.
Why do people even bother with that shit?
People like that are just not worth the energy it takes to fight the hate they spew. Step over them and fight the REAL battles.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:25:50
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:25:50
From Today's AJC... regarding Puffy's Book...
At least we NOW KNOW that Bush was at parties where Plenty of this was happening. ;)
The fact that he doesn't know whether or not is stunningly scary . So which is it Puffy? Did you lie for a man that can't recall?
The book recounts an evening in a hotel suite "somewhere in the Midwest." Bush was on the phone with a supporter and motioned for McClellan to have a seat.
"'The media won't let go of these ridiculous cocaine rumors,' I heard Bush say. 'You know, the truth is I honestly don't remember whether I tried it or not. We had some pretty wild parties back in the day, and I just don't remember.'"
"I remember thinking to myself, How can that be?" McClellan wrote. "How can someone simply not remember whether or not they used an illegal substance like cocaine? It didn't make a lot of sense."
Bush, according to McClellan, "isn't the kind of person to flat-out lie."
"So I think he meant what he said in that conversation about cocaine. It's the first time when I felt I was witnessing Bush convincing himself to believe something that probably was not true, and that, deep down, he knew was not true," McClellan wrote. "And his reason for doing so is fairly obvious — political convenience."
In the years that followed, McClellan "would come to believe that sometimes he convinces himself to believe what suits his needs at the moment." McClellan likened it to a witness who resorts to "I do not recall."
"Bush, similarly, has a way of falling back on the hazy memory to protect himself from potential political embarrassment," McClellan wrote, adding, "In other words, being evasive is not the same as lying in Bush's mind."
And McClellan linked the tactic to the decision to invade Iraq, a decision based on flawed intelligence.
"It would not be the last time Bush mishandled potential controversy," he said of the cocaine rumors. "But the cases to come would involve the public trust, and the failure to deal with them early, directly and head-on would lead to far greater suspicion and far more destructive partisan warfare," he wrote.
At least we NOW KNOW that Bush was at parties where Plenty of this was happening. ;)
The fact that he doesn't know whether or not is stunningly scary . So which is it Puffy? Did you lie for a man that can't recall?
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 17:28:54
There's a lot of fuzzy math there. It also ignores the fact that Obama got more votes in most states than McCain did. I really wonder how many states McCain will actually win. I predict a blowout.
BobR on 05/28/2008 17:28:54
Quote by Raine:
I am glad the Lawsuit got thrown out... THANKS for the follow up with that one Scoop.
AS for the email... this is just getting to the point that it is embarassing.
And, to a certain friend of mine out there, who lurks..... DO NOT accuse me of attacking HRC... THIS is the kind of thing I am talking about. it is just NOT what I want after having to deal with 8 f*cking long years of this crap.
There's a lot of fuzzy math there. It also ignores the fact that Obama got more votes in most states than McCain did. I really wonder how many states McCain will actually win. I predict a blowout.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 17:32:17
I read that not so much that Bush can't remember, it's that he purposely is repressing the memory, perhaps consciously so. It's almost a deliberate pyschosis.
very scary.
BobR on 05/28/2008 17:32:17
Quote by Raine:
From Today's AJC... regarding Puffy's Book...
At least we NOW KNOW that Bush was at parties where Plenty of this was happening. ;)
The fact that he doesn't know whether or not is stunningly scary . So which is it Puffy? Did you lie for a man that can't recall?
I read that not so much that Bush can't remember, it's that he purposely is repressing the memory, perhaps consciously so. It's almost a deliberate pyschosis.
very scary.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 17:37:42
Then we must give him all the credibility he deserves - on par with someone claiming that Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and a Sasquatch are involved in a menage a trois consummated on the decks of a starship whose Gray alien captain wears Mickey Mouse ears and smokes a foot long doobie.
Sorry, but Steph's blog needs a moderator. We tried no rules at UNN for a while, and ultimately decided on rules. And can they get software that actually was designed in the 21st Century? I like to be able to quote people without haaving to cut and paste as well as put in links and not have them stretch into the next zipcode.
Will in Chicago on 05/28/2008 17:37:42
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Now SMH is actually arguing that the Armenian genocide never happened.
Why do people even bother with that shit?
People like that are just not worth the energy it takes to fight the hate they spew. Step over them and fight the REAL battles.
Then we must give him all the credibility he deserves - on par with someone claiming that Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and a Sasquatch are involved in a menage a trois consummated on the decks of a starship whose Gray alien captain wears Mickey Mouse ears and smokes a foot long doobie.
Sorry, but Steph's blog needs a moderator. We tried no rules at UNN for a while, and ultimately decided on rules. And can they get software that actually was designed in the 21st Century? I like to be able to quote people without haaving to cut and paste as well as put in links and not have them stretch into the next zipcode.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:48:21
They could Hire Bobber...
I snark, bu tI know what you mean. A moderator is critical in these situations, becuase the reality is that it being a radio show blog, they can't automatically shut down ALL POV's (ie: they cannot say it is a not RW free zone...) So with that in mind they DO need a moderator over there to keep things on point with out having a flame war.
I used to do that over at AAP (before I left ) as a conservative moderator. IT is NOT an easy Job, but it is critical to prevent a place from becoming a shitehole.
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:48:21
Quote by will in chicago:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Now SMH is actually arguing that the Armenian genocide never happened.
Why do people even bother with that shit?
People like that are just not worth the energy it takes to fight the hate they spew. Step over them and fight the REAL battles.
Then we must give him all the credibility he deserves - on par with someone claiming that Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and a Sasquatch are involved in a menage a trois consummated on the decks of a starship whose Gray alien captain wears Mickey Mouse ears and smokes a foot long doobie.
Sorry, but Steph's blog needs a moderator. We tried no rules at UNN for a while, and ultimately decided on rules. And can they get software that actually was designed in the 21st Century? I like to be able to quote people without haaving to cut and paste as well as put in links and not have them stretch into the next zipcode.
I snark, bu tI know what you mean. A moderator is critical in these situations, becuase the reality is that it being a radio show blog, they can't automatically shut down ALL POV's (ie: they cannot say it is a not RW free zone...) So with that in mind they DO need a moderator over there to keep things on point with out having a flame war.
I used to do that over at AAP (before I left ) as a conservative moderator. IT is NOT an easy Job, but it is critical to prevent a place from becoming a shitehole.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:49:21
In order to not remember whether or not he did it, Bush must have done a lot of blow. I really have to wonder not only that he's psychotic but apparently his heavy intake of substances during his "youthful indiscretion" years may have caused brain damage.
If Bush can't be impeached, can we at least invoke the 26th Amendment to argue that Bush should be removed on the ground that he is mentally unfit to hold office.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:49:21
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
From Today's AJC... regarding Puffy's Book...
At least we NOW KNOW that Bush was at parties where Plenty of this was happening. ;)
The fact that he doesn't know whether or not is stunningly scary . So which is it Puffy? Did you lie for a man that can't recall?
I read that not so much that Bush can't remember, it's that he purposely is repressing the memory, perhaps consciously so. It's almost a deliberate pyschosis.
very scary.
In order to not remember whether or not he did it, Bush must have done a lot of blow. I really have to wonder not only that he's psychotic but apparently his heavy intake of substances during his "youthful indiscretion" years may have caused brain damage.
If Bush can't be impeached, can we at least invoke the 26th Amendment to argue that Bush should be removed on the ground that he is mentally unfit to hold office.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:54:13
The trollish behavior of the three stooges (clay, DRII and SMH) really needs to be put in check. It's one thing to be a Hillary supporter, but it's another to be so off the rails and to have every troll be an insult on anyone who doesn't agree with their view that Hillary should be crowned queen and anoited as the next president while at least one may be on the Operation Chaos plan and would switch to McCain even if Hillary got the nod.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:54:13
Quote by Raine:They could Hire Bobber...Quote by will in chicago:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Now SMH is actually arguing that the Armenian genocide never happened.
Why do people even bother with that shit?
People like that are just not worth the energy it takes to fight the hate they spew. Step over them and fight the REAL battles.
Then we must give him all the credibility he deserves - on par with someone claiming that Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and a Sasquatch are involved in a menage a trois consummated on the decks of a starship whose Gray alien captain wears Mickey Mouse ears and smokes a foot long doobie.
Sorry, but Steph's blog needs a moderator. We tried no rules at UNN for a while, and ultimately decided on rules. And can they get software that actually was designed in the 21st Century? I like to be able to quote people without haaving to cut and paste as well as put in links and not have them stretch into the next zipcode.
I snark, bu tI know what you mean. A moderator is critical in these situations, becuase the reality is that it being a radio show blog, they can't automatically shut down ALL POV's (ie: they cannot say it is a not RW free zone...) So with that in mind they DO need a moderator over there to keep things on point with out having a flame war.
I used to do that over at AAP (before I left ) as a conservative moderator. IT is NOT an easy Job, but it is critical to prevent a place from becoming a shitehole.
The trollish behavior of the three stooges (clay, DRII and SMH) really needs to be put in check. It's one thing to be a Hillary supporter, but it's another to be so off the rails and to have every troll be an insult on anyone who doesn't agree with their view that Hillary should be crowned queen and anoited as the next president while at least one may be on the Operation Chaos plan and would switch to McCain even if Hillary got the nod.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 17:56:05
Raine on 05/28/2008 17:56:05
That 26th ammendment is a pretty important one. What we have here is a basic admission that he DID attend parties where many drugs were taken.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:59:05
livingonli on 05/28/2008 17:59:05
And that has probably contributed to why Bush always sounds like an idiot when he speaks.
And on that note, I am heading off to Target to pick up some things. Ah, what I do on my days off.
And on that note, I am heading off to Target to pick up some things. Ah, what I do on my days off.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 18:16:59
BobR on 05/28/2008 18:16:59
Is it just me, or does this German memorial to gay Holocaust victims resemble a combination bathroom stall / peep show / glory hole?
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 18:20:57
Oy vey, this HRC missive gives me a massive headache. To think that some little minds were hard at work on these "facts & figures" all night last night really has me worried and wondering why they haven't turned their beautiful minds to defeating Grampy McSame. Why are Dems doing this? I just don't understand anymore - ugh...
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 18:20:57
Quote by Scoopster:
This crap that Hillary's handlers and her more abrasive fanboys are trying to pull is really getting out of hand.
FL Court throws out lawsuit against DNC, appeal pending to SCOTUS
Hillary's email to superdelegates (INCLUDES MAPS DONE BY KARL ROVE)
Oy vey, this HRC missive gives me a massive headache. To think that some little minds were hard at work on these "facts & figures" all night last night really has me worried and wondering why they haven't turned their beautiful minds to defeating Grampy McSame. Why are Dems doing this? I just don't understand anymore - ugh...
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 18:24:52
BobR on 05/28/2008 18:24:52
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 18:43:18
And the courts said that those children taken away from the Sect in Texas should not have been removed from the home?
This is disgusting, repulsive and horrifying. Anywoman who reproduces while being a member oif the FLDS is doing so only to put thier daughters into, most likely a case where they will be molested sexually.
Warren Jeffs has a special place in Hell if you ask me.
Raine on 05/28/2008 18:43:18
Quote by BobR:
Puke alert: Photos of FLDS leader Jeffs intimately kissing 14 year old girl
This is disgusting, repulsive and horrifying. Anywoman who reproduces while being a member oif the FLDS is doing so only to put thier daughters into, most likely a case where they will be molested sexually.
Warren Jeffs has a special place in Hell if you ask me.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 19:00:12
Raine on 05/28/2008 19:00:12
MoDo had a very interesting column today. Basically, it is questioning if BILL is ready for Hillary to be VP. here is a snippet:
“Mr. President, I’m going to run a very transparent administration, everything on C-Span. So I’ll need a full accounting of your foundation donors.”
“Oh, sure thing, buddy, from this day forward.”
“No, Bill, we’ll need full disclosure of your business dealings for the last eight years. And you can no longer accept Arab millions — not if I’m going to talk tough to them about oil. I can’t send Hillary on diplomatic missions to the Middle East if you’re taking money from Dubai and Kuwait. And no more trips to Kazakhstan. I wouldn’t want to have to put a Geiger-counter bracelet on you to check that you’re not involved in another shady uranium deal.”
“Ha, ha.”
“We need to know where that $11 million came from that you guys loaned your campaign. And the $15 million from Ron Burkle at Yucaipa and the $3 million from Vinod Gupta. And you must spill about any offshore accounts in the Caymans. And no more big-money speeches, Bill. You guys have already cashed in for more than $100 million.”
“You’re right, Barack, no more speeches. Just conversations. If a C.E.O. interviews me in front of a small audience, that’s fine. But no speeches.”
“I’m not debating the meaning of the word ‘speech,’ Bill. We’re going to have an administration so squeaky clean that it makes Jimmy Carter look like Marc Rich. All your trips abroad will have to be authorized by a higher authority.”
“The State Department? Fine, I’ll check with them.”
“Higher.”
“Oh, no. Not that.”
“Yes, Michelle. She’ll have you on a much shorter leash, Bill, and it’s not so fun. There’ll be no more Ron Air, no Burkling and Binging. Eight long years of Michelle watching your every move. No eruptions of any kind. And that big telescope in the Naval Observatory is off limits. We’re going to be a family-values administration. And in the campaign, we’ll use you the way Al Gore did: Not at all. No more Bill YouTube meltdowns.”
Comment by TriSec on 05/28/2008 19:14:39
TriSec on 05/28/2008 19:14:39
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 19:29:18
:thud:
I know Malkin was one of the worst person's last nite on KO for this, but DD pulled the ad?!?! WTF?
(note to self, I must go out and get another one of those scarves. I used to have one in college.)
Utterly stupid.
Raine on 05/28/2008 19:29:18
Quote by TriSec:
TriSec's mouth hangs open as he is dumbstruck...
I can't even think of anything coherent to say.
I know Malkin was one of the worst person's last nite on KO for this, but DD pulled the ad?!?! WTF?
(note to self, I must go out and get another one of those scarves. I used to have one in college.)
Utterly stupid.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 19:30:31
Raine,
I enjoyed that column almost as much as another one she did last week entitled "The Last Debate.". But I'm afraid that MoDo is dreaming if she thinks that Billary will give up so easily. Ah, we can only hope :)
Cheers,
mfaye :D
and TriSec - Believe it, I got called out for wearing a scarf that my sister brought me from Morocco the other day while I was recycling my plastic bottles behind Wal-Mart - ugh, life here in Okie-ville...
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 19:30:31
Quote by Raine:
MoDo had a very interesting column today. Basically, it is questioning if BILL is ready for Hillary to be VP. here is a snippet:
“Mr. President, I’m going to run a very transparent administration, everything on C-Span. So I’ll need a full accounting of your foundation donors.”
“Oh, sure thing, buddy, from this day forward.”
“No, Bill, we’ll need full disclosure of your business dealings for the last eight years. And you can no longer accept Arab millions — not if I’m going to talk tough to them about oil. I can’t send Hillary on diplomatic missions to the Middle East if you’re taking money from Dubai and Kuwait. And no more trips to Kazakhstan. I wouldn’t want to have to put a Geiger-counter bracelet on you to check that you’re not involved in another shady uranium deal.”
“Ha, ha.”
“We need to know where that $11 million came from that you guys loaned your campaign. And the $15 million from Ron Burkle at Yucaipa and the $3 million from Vinod Gupta. And you must spill about any offshore accounts in the Caymans. And no more big-money speeches, Bill. You guys have already cashed in for more than $100 million.”
“You’re right, Barack, no more speeches. Just conversations. If a C.E.O. interviews me in front of a small audience, that’s fine. But no speeches.”
“I’m not debating the meaning of the word ‘speech,’ Bill. We’re going to have an administration so squeaky clean that it makes Jimmy Carter look like Marc Rich. All your trips abroad will have to be authorized by a higher authority.”
“The State Department? Fine, I’ll check with them.”
“Higher.”
“Oh, no. Not that.”
“Yes, Michelle. She’ll have you on a much shorter leash, Bill, and it’s not so fun. There’ll be no more Ron Air, no Burkling and Binging. Eight long years of Michelle watching your every move. No eruptions of any kind. And that big telescope in the Naval Observatory is off limits. We’re going to be a family-values administration. And in the campaign, we’ll use you the way Al Gore did: Not at all. No more Bill YouTube meltdowns.”
Raine,
I enjoyed that column almost as much as another one she did last week entitled "The Last Debate.". But I'm afraid that MoDo is dreaming if she thinks that Billary will give up so easily. Ah, we can only hope :)
Cheers,
mfaye :D
and TriSec - Believe it, I got called out for wearing a scarf that my sister brought me from Morocco the other day while I was recycling my plastic bottles behind Wal-Mart - ugh, life here in Okie-ville...
Comment by TriSec on 05/28/2008 19:35:40
TriSec on 05/28/2008 19:35:40
*sigh*
Well, we have Islamic neighbors and I have a Muslim cousin (by marriage), so this sort of thing just boggles my mind.
Well, we have Islamic neighbors and I have a Muslim cousin (by marriage), so this sort of thing just boggles my mind.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 19:53:01
Random on 05/28/2008 19:53:01
Random has returned...what i miss?
Comment by TriSec on 05/28/2008 20:16:26
TriSec on 05/28/2008 20:16:26
Dunkin' Donuts has gone nuts...
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 20:33:12
Raine on 05/28/2008 20:33:12
Comment by m-hadley on 05/28/2008 20:36:09
Raine,
Thanks, I already ordered 10...
Cheers,
mfaye :D
m-hadley on 05/28/2008 20:36:09
Quote by Raine:
Moveon is giving bumper stickers for a donation... Donate $3 for 10, 25 for 100....
Raine,
Thanks, I already ordered 10...
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 20:43:50
Now I wish there was a Tim Horton's by me. And I will go to Krispy Kreme but the ones here didn't do very well.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 20:43:50
Quote by TriSec:
Dunkin' Donuts has gone nuts...
Now I wish there was a Tim Horton's by me. And I will go to Krispy Kreme but the ones here didn't do very well.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 20:45:33
Random on 05/28/2008 20:45:33
eh...i don't drink Coffee
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 20:46:12
livingonli on 05/28/2008 20:46:12
Good to be home. Most people out here are inconsiderate idiots and at times I start to feel like I really should hate people.
WLIW channel 21 here is running a three-part series on Leaving Long Island which discusses why so many young people here. I already know number one;
1. IT IS TOO FRIGGIN' EXPENSIVE.
WLIW channel 21 here is running a three-part series on Leaving Long Island which discusses why so many young people here. I already know number one;
1. IT IS TOO FRIGGIN' EXPENSIVE.
Comment by TriSec on 05/28/2008 21:00:40
TriSec on 05/28/2008 21:00:40
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
: ducks incoming wave of bricks :
But seriously, would you trade New York for Tulsa? [erm, wait, strike that.]
Geez, what city in the US is free of 4F members so we can insult it?
Oh, poop.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
: ducks incoming wave of bricks :
But seriously, would you trade New York for Tulsa? [erm, wait, strike that.]
Geez, what city in the US is free of 4F members so we can insult it?
Oh, poop.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:16:48
livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:16:48
I think there are a few cities in the deep south (Alabama, Mississippi) or Texas we can make fun of.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 21:19:59
I think Dallas is free.
Raine on 05/28/2008 21:19:59
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
: ducks incoming wave of bricks :
But seriously, would you trade New York for Tulsa? [erm, wait, strike that.]
Geez, what city in the US is free of 4F members so we can insult it?
Oh, poop.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 21:25:45
You know, I did give up enwhycee... and I often insult Atlanta. I think the Atl is fair game.
Raine on 05/28/2008 21:25:45
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
: ducks incoming wave of bricks :
But seriously, would you trade New York for Tulsa? [erm, wait, strike that.]
Geez, what city in the US is free of 4F members so we can insult it?
Oh, poop.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:27:48
But how would the Bobber feel about that?
livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:27:48
Quote by Raine:You know, I did give up enwhycee... and I often insult Atlanta. I think the Atl is fair game.Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
: ducks incoming wave of bricks :
But seriously, would you trade New York for Tulsa? [erm, wait, strike that.]
Geez, what city in the US is free of 4F members so we can insult it?
Oh, poop.
But how would the Bobber feel about that?
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:52:22
livingonli on 05/28/2008 21:52:22
Lawton Smalls will be back on with Maron tomorrow just like old times.
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 21:58:27
Bobber is well aware of the shortcomings of Atlanta (and particularly GA). Don't forget I'm a naturalized southerner, not a native...
BobR on 05/28/2008 21:58:27
Quote by livingonli:
But how would the Bobber feel about that?
Bobber is well aware of the shortcomings of Atlanta (and particularly GA). Don't forget I'm a naturalized southerner, not a native...
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 21:59:49
Chicago is not too shabby either...
BobR on 05/28/2008 21:59:49
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
Chicago is not too shabby either...
Comment by BobR on 05/28/2008 22:01:08
Oh c'mon - that's like shooting fish in a barrel. :P
BobR on 05/28/2008 22:01:08
Quote by livingonli:
I think there are a few cities in the deep south (Alabama, Mississippi) or Texas we can make fun of.
Oh c'mon - that's like shooting fish in a barrel. :P
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 22:12:42
Raine on 05/28/2008 22:12:42
ESPN Jockey removed permanantly from air on ESPN for Kennedy assassination joke.
And yet Savage is still there.
And yet Savage is still there.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 22:15:15
I think it would be fair to consider the Great Lakes as Coastline. That does, however, bring up the question of Buffalo... :P
Raine on 05/28/2008 22:15:15
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
Chicago is not too shabby either...
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 22:30:23
I have never been there. I should go sometime. Just not during wintertime.
livingonli on 05/28/2008 22:30:23
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the curse of the coastline.
It's always between Boston, New York, and San Francisco for the 3 most expensive cities in the US, going back to the 1980s. You could look it up.
Problem is, anywhere other than those 3 cities is a cultural wasteland.
Chicago is not too shabby either...
I have never been there. I should go sometime. Just not during wintertime.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 22:30:55
I meant to comment on this. it IS very uncomfortable. it does remind me of a peep show. I would like to see the rest of the memorial which according to the article I am very happy that they are paying homage to our brothers and sisters who were persecuted for being gay.
it seems there are many many untold stories of the holocaust.
Raine on 05/28/2008 22:30:55
Quote by BobR:
Is it just me, or does this German memorial to gay Holocaust victims resemble a combination bathroom stall / peep show / glory hole?
echoes the vast field of smaller slabs that make up Germany's memorial to Jewish victims of the Holocaust, opened three years ago just across the road.
it seems there are many many untold stories of the holocaust.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 22:35:56
This is the photo from the AP:
Rather unfortunate.
Raine on 05/28/2008 22:35:56
Quote by Raine:I meant to comment on this. it IS very uncomfortable. it does remind me of a peep show. I would like to see the rest of the memorial which according to the articleQuote by BobR:
Is it just me, or does this German memorial to gay Holocaust victims resemble a combination bathroom stall / peep show / glory hole?I am very happy that they are paying homage to our brothers and sisters who were persecuted for being gay.echoes the vast field of smaller slabs that make up Germany's memorial to Jewish victims of the Holocaust, opened three years ago just across the road.
it seems there are many many untold stories of the holocaust.
Rather unfortunate.
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 23:39:27
livingonli on 05/28/2008 23:39:27
Paul Reickoff is on Rachel Maddow right now.
Comment by Raine on 05/28/2008 23:40:52
For the LAST (I wish) F*cking TIME... Al Qaeda is NOT in Iran.
Ted Stevens needs to be told this little peice of information.
Raine on 05/28/2008 23:40:52
For the LAST (I wish) F*cking TIME... Al Qaeda is NOT in Iran.
Ted Stevens needs to be told this little peice of information.
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 23:41:08
Random on 05/28/2008 23:41:08
Random in class...shh, dun tell teach
Comment by Random on 05/28/2008 23:54:34
Random on 05/28/2008 23:54:34
O.o Random killed the blog
Comment by livingonli on 05/28/2008 23:57:03
livingonli on 05/28/2008 23:57:03
Pat Halpin is co-hosting the Leaving Long Island specials on WLIW.
Raine, you remember him, don't you?
Raine, you remember him, don't you?
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:08:13
livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:08:13
Every time I see Rove ooze out another lie, why do I wish him ill will?
Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 00:29:14
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
then swing the tire iron.
Random on 05/29/2008 00:29:14
Quote by livingonli:
Every time I see Rove ooze out another lie, why do I wish him ill will?
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
then swing the tire iron.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:32:39
livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:32:39
What disgusts me is how he just keep getting away with everything.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:43:58
livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:43:58
Momma will be on Larry King tonight. Heads up, everyone.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:52:28
livingonli on 05/29/2008 00:52:28
Tonight's worst persons;
3. Bill-O. For refusing to call out Keith by name in his denouncements.
2. Joe LIEberman for going to the John Hagee conference anyway despite his remarks.
1. Dunkin' Donuts for caving in to the Michelle Malkin rants by pulling the Rachel Ray ad.
They were as weak as their de-caf.
3. Bill-O. For refusing to call out Keith by name in his denouncements.
2. Joe LIEberman for going to the John Hagee conference anyway despite his remarks.
1. Dunkin' Donuts for caving in to the Michelle Malkin rants by pulling the Rachel Ray ad.
They were as weak as their de-caf.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:02:43
livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:02:43
Puffy McMoonface will be on KO tomorrow night.
Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 01:15:41
Random on 05/29/2008 01:15:41
...Weird smell
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:17:15
Is it sulfur?
livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:17:15
Quote by Random:
...Weird smell
Is it sulfur?
Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 01:21:32
no...more like nuked Pork Ribs.
Random on 05/29/2008 01:21:32
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
...Weird smell
Is it sulfur?
no...more like nuked Pork Ribs.
Comment by TriSec on 05/29/2008 01:37:43
TriSec on 05/29/2008 01:37:43
Evening, folks. Hear about the train wreck maybe 5 miles from here?
And there was a derailment in Chicago today, and a kid got run over by a commuter rail train in Revere Sunday, and two more were hit by a freighter in NH today.
Moral: Stay off the frickin' tracks!
And there was a derailment in Chicago today, and a kid got run over by a commuter rail train in Revere Sunday, and two more were hit by a freighter in NH today.
Moral: Stay off the frickin' tracks!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 01:46:38
Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 01:46:38
'allo "allo! Mondo in the hizzy. I had to go to the {drama sting} mall Shudder!
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:46:38
livingonli on 05/29/2008 01:46:38
Gas is making it too expensive to drive. Don't take the train. Don't take the plane. Might as well just stay home.
:curls under couch in fetal position:
:curls under couch in fetal position:
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 02:24:41
Raine on 05/29/2008 02:24:41
just got done watching LKL! only the segment with Momma... I was FLOORED that Kiki Davis said that Scott McClellan should be ashamed of what he did by writing that book. Stunned actually. I suspect Shane-O will have the youtubery of it for everyone tomorrow, and Momma was REALLY great tonite, but kiki just made me cringe.
Seriously, cringe.
Seriously, cringe.
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 02:25:59
:rofl:
BobR on 05/29/2008 02:25:59
Quote by Random:
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
then swing the tire iron.
:rofl:
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 02:27:09
she was rather subdued and didn't say anything goofy. Good on her!
BobR on 05/29/2008 02:27:09
Quote by livingonli:
Momma will be on Larry King tonight. Heads up, everyone.
she was rather subdued and didn't say anything goofy. Good on her!
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:27:22
livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:27:22
After all, it is important for an employee to be loyal and ignore the fact that the person may be involved in criminal activity. God, talking about having no principles.
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 02:28:09
hmmm... someone forgot to use lube... :lol:
BobR on 05/29/2008 02:28:09
Quote by Random:
no...more like nuked Pork Ribs.
hmmm... someone forgot to use lube... :lol:
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 02:29:23
I see two-wheeled transport coming back in a BIG way...
BobR on 05/29/2008 02:29:23
Quote by livingonli:
Gas is making it too expensive to drive. Don't take the train. Don't take the plane. Might as well just stay home.
:curls under couch in fetal position:
I see two-wheeled transport coming back in a BIG way...
Comment by BobR on 05/29/2008 02:32:45
oooooOOOOoooo... shopping!!
do tell, girlfraynd...
BobR on 05/29/2008 02:32:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
'allo "allo! Mondo in the hizzy. I had to go to the {drama sting} mall Shudder!
oooooOOOOoooo... shopping!!
do tell, girlfraynd...
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:38:46
livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:38:46
Mike Malloy is ranting on Dunkin' Donuts for their cowardice. He says the coffee tastes like urine.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 02:39:44
Chummy McSharkbait's book was a topic on KO last night. I was floored by the way he threw Bush under the bus. Of all the former members of the crime cabal that is the Bush administration, I never thought the Malomar addict would trash his boss.
Kiki needs a zetz in the tucus. I don't even know who the hell she is. McClellen should be ashamed of what he did? Coming clean about the lies and crap that he helped sell? Good on ya Scotty is what I think!
Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 02:39:44
Quote by Raine:
just got done watching LKL! only the segment with Momma... I was FLOORED that Kiki Davis said that Scott McClellan should be ashamed of what he did by writing that book. Stunned actually. I suspect Shane-O will have the youtubery of it for everyone tomorrow, and Momma was REALLY great tonite, but kiki just made me cringe.
Seriously, cringe.
Chummy McSharkbait's book was a topic on KO last night. I was floored by the way he threw Bush under the bus. Of all the former members of the crime cabal that is the Bush administration, I never thought the Malomar addict would trash his boss.
Kiki needs a zetz in the tucus. I don't even know who the hell she is. McClellen should be ashamed of what he did? Coming clean about the lies and crap that he helped sell? Good on ya Scotty is what I think!
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 02:41:44
Firstly Bob, it wasn't shopping it was buying.
Secondly, bite me Smart-Ass.
:modbat:
Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 02:41:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
'allo "allo! Mondo in the hizzy. I had to go to the {drama sting} mall Shudder!
oooooOOOOoooo... shopping!!
do tell, girlfraynd...
Firstly Bob, it wasn't shopping it was buying.
Secondly, bite me Smart-Ass.
:modbat:
Comment by Random on 05/29/2008 02:51:22
to get full effect of joke, imagine a buddhist monk saying those words.
Random on 05/29/2008 02:51:22
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
breath in, breath out...
then swing the tire iron.
:rofl:
to get full effect of joke, imagine a buddhist monk saying those words.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:57:37
livingonli on 05/29/2008 02:57:37
Pittsburgh did win Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Finals.
Comment by 
MMB on 05/29/2008 03:06:23
MMB on 05/29/2008 03:06:23
How convient 
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 03:19:50
Mondobubba on 05/29/2008 03:19:50
Human Events is hilarious! Check this howler out:
That as a government-protected monopoly the U.S. Postal Service can jack up postal rates as much as they want whenever they want, without worrying about free-market competition is outrageous enough. But what really burns me up is that this postage hike was engineered in part by lobbyists for liberal media giant Time Warner and other large publishers to benefit themselves at the expense of smaller, conservative operations such as HUMAN EVENTS.
:rofl: :rofl: Yeah the liberal media lobbied to do damage to poor Human Events. : wipes tears of mirth from eyes:
How about the same thing that happening to ohhh I dunno, THE NATION!
That as a government-protected monopoly the U.S. Postal Service can jack up postal rates as much as they want whenever they want, without worrying about free-market competition is outrageous enough. But what really burns me up is that this postage hike was engineered in part by lobbyists for liberal media giant Time Warner and other large publishers to benefit themselves at the expense of smaller, conservative operations such as HUMAN EVENTS.
:rofl:
:rofl: Yeah the liberal media lobbied to do damage to poor Human Events. : wipes tears of mirth from eyes:How about the same thing that happening to ohhh I dunno, THE NATION!
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 03:29:08
livingonli on 05/29/2008 03:29:08
Wasn't it the turd over at Murdoch's Weekly Standard who basically admitted that the "Liberal Media" is just a slogan they throw around so that the M$M will do its bidding?
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 03:30:34
livingonli on 05/29/2008 03:30:34
WGN's news opens with the two train incidents in Chicago and then does a brief story on the one in the Boston area (WHDH News is courtesied).
Comment by Raine on 05/29/2008 03:45:45
My bad, I got her last name wrong.. it was Kiki Mclean, not davis, who is a Senior Campaign advisor to the HRC campaign.
That would be why I was stunned.
Raine on 05/29/2008 03:45:45
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
just got done watching LKL! only the segment with Momma... I was FLOORED that Kiki Davis said that Scott McClellan should be ashamed of what he did by writing that book. Stunned actually. I suspect Shane-O will have the youtubery of it for everyone tomorrow, and Momma was REALLY great tonite, but kiki just made me cringe.
Seriously, cringe.
Chummy McSharkbait's book was a topic on KO last night. I was floored by the way he threw Bush under the bus. Of all the former members of the crime cabal that is the Bush administration, I never thought the Malomar addict would trash his boss.
Kiki needs a zetz in the tucus. I don't even know who the hell she is. McClellen should be ashamed of what he did? Coming clean about the lies and crap that he helped sell? Good on ya Scotty is what I think!
That would be why I was stunned.
Comment by livingonli on 05/29/2008 04:07:08
livingonli on 05/29/2008 04:07:08
Since I haven't done late night music video theater in a while;