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Author: TriSec
Date: 06/17/2008 10:33:58
Good Morning.
Today is our 1,917th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4101
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3962
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3640
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3242
Since Election (1/31/05): 2664
Other Coalition Troops: 313
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 521
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 529, 014, 000, 000.00
We'll take a brief look at Afghanistan this morning. With the dwindling media attention still focused on Iraq, it's easy to overlook this forgotten conflict. Did you hear about the massive jailbreak in Afghanistan last week? Several hundred Taleban were freed by their compatriots, and four Marines were killed in the process.
With the sudden influx of hundreds of fighters bent on revenge, the situation in Afghanistan is going downhill quickly.
Lastly this morning....a crushing story from IAVA about men who care too much.
Before I go, let's just remember what John McCain says about all this... "Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years
Today is our 1,917th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4101
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3962
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3640
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3242
Since Election (1/31/05): 2664
Other Coalition Troops: 313
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 521
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 529, 014, 000, 000.00
We'll take a brief look at Afghanistan this morning. With the dwindling media attention still focused on Iraq, it's easy to overlook this forgotten conflict. Did you hear about the massive jailbreak in Afghanistan last week? Several hundred Taleban were freed by their compatriots, and four Marines were killed in the process.
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AFP) — About 500 Taliban massed near Kandahar city on Monday as Afghan and NATO security forces sent reinforcements after a brazen rebel attack that busted more than 1,000 prisoners out of jail.
"We're preparing to launch an operation on them soon," said provincial police chief Sayed Agha Saqeb.
Saqeb said dozens of families fearing fighting had fled two villages in the Arghandab district near Kandahar, where Friday's Taliban suicide-and-gun attack blew a hole in the main jail and allowed the inmates to flee.
He would not confirm whether the Taliban gathered in the villages included the 400 militants set free in the attack.
Afghanistan's defence ministry and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Kabul meanwhile said they were redeploying troops to respond to a "potential threat" from the escaped prisoners.
Defence ministry spokesman General Mohammad Zahir Azimi said several Afghan army units were dispatched and more units were on their way to reinforce troops already in the restive southern province.
NATO officials said the force was also "redeploying to meet potential threats" from escaped Taliban rebels.
"It's fair to say that the jailbreak put lots of people into circulation that weren't before. Obviously you're going to respond to that potential threat," NATO civilian spokesman Mark Laity told a news conference.
Azimi said the redeployment was aimed at hunting the escaped prisoners as well as "clearing the enemy" in the province.
"The hunt for the escaped prisoners forcefully continues. If the enemy intends any movement they'll be forcefully hit," Azimi said.
"We assure the people of Afghanistan and the people of Kandahar in particular that the clearance operation continues and will continue," he added.
General Carlos Branco, spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), gave assurances that the district would not be taken over by the Taliban, whose movement has its roots in Kandahar province.
"Don't come with these black pictures that Arghandab is on the brink to fall into the hands of the Taliban. That's nonsense," Branco told the same news briefing.
The jailbreak was a blow to President Hamid Karzai, coming one day after world donors pledged 20 billion dollars to rebuild Afghanistan at a conference in Paris but also called on him to strengthen the rule of law.
With the sudden influx of hundreds of fighters bent on revenge, the situation in Afghanistan is going downhill quickly.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, June 16 -- Hundreds of Taliban fighters took control of seven villages in southern Afghanistan on Monday in what appeared to be a major offensive near the country's second-largest city, according to Afghan officials.
An estimated 500 Taliban fighters swept into several villages in the Arghandab district, about 15 miles northwest of Kandahar, officials said. Agha Lalai Wali, an official with the government-sponsored Peace and Reconciliation Commission in Kandahar, said the fighters surged into the area Sunday evening, setting up several checkpoints in the district. Wali said local residents had reported seeing dozens of fighters believed to be of Pakistani and Arab origin traveling in the area in pickup trucks shortly before the incursion.
The Taliban's seizure of the villages comes three days after an audacious prison break at a Kandahar jail, in which an estimated 1,000 to 1,200 prisoners, many of them Taliban fighters, escaped.
A spokesman for the Afghan Defense Ministry, Brig. Gen. M. Zaher Azimi, said Monday evening that hundreds of Afghan army troops were being deployed to the south from the capital, Kabul, and elsewhere around the country to mount a counteroffensive following the attacks in Arghandab.
Officials with the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force said Western troops were also being redeployed to support Afghan forces leading the counteroffensive. A spokesman for the force, Gen. Carlos Brancos, said he could not confirm that the Taliban had taken control of the villages in Arghandab, but said ISAF officials had received "information that Taliban insurgents were active in the area."
Kandahar, a city of roughly 450,000 people, is considered the birthplace of the Taliban, and fighters trying to infiltrate the city have frequently used Arghandab as a gateway. Arghandab was relatively peaceful until Mullah Naqib, a local leader known for keeping the peace, died there last year. It has since been the scene of several fierce firefights between NATO forces and insurgents.
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According to Afghan officials, Taliban fighters have said they plan to march on Kandahar from Arghandab.
"The Taliban are getting stronger and stronger, and after they attacked the prison, that gave them higher morale," Wali said.
Lastly this morning....a crushing story from IAVA about men who care too much.
Ask any veteran to name the person they remember most from their service, and I’ll lay you even odds that he or she will talk about one of their non-commissioned officers (NCOs). Sergeants (or petty officers, for you Navy types) are the backbone of the American Armed forces – they are a large part of what makes our units so simultaneously lethal and flexible. This week’s Army Times carried a sad story of what happened when one senior NCO simply couldn’t bear such a burden any longer:
Everything changed July 11 in the bright sunshine of Adhamiyah, Iraq. That day, while out on a simple meet-and-greet patrol, [First Sergeant Jeff] McKinney stepped out of his Humvee and yelled. “F— this!” He raised the barrel of his M4 [rifle] to his chin and squeezed off one shot. The first sergeant — who sang Sesame Street songs to his men and teased them just enough to make them feel like family — left his soldiers shattered.
For those not familiar with the role of the first sergeant (1SG), some clarifications may help. If NCOs are the backbone of the American Army, the 1SG is the steel spine of the company. While the soldiers of the company take their orders from the lieutenants and captains who lead the company, they seek guidance and counsel from the 1SG, who runs it. The 1SG is arguably the most influential person in the company – a good one can hold the unit through some incredibly tough times, while a bad one can run a group of great professionals right into the ground.
How does that happen? How does a veteran soldier and leader, a man with decades of experience, come to lose all hope and take his own life? The cumulative impact of this burden on the 1SG is immense. They are expected to be many things to many people: advisor to the commander on all aspects of the company’s operations, mentor and example to the mid-level NCOs who are seeking to find their own way, and counselor and disciplinarian to the junior soldiers of the company. The 1SGs responsibilities on any given day are as broad as they are critical: resupply, field feeding, administration, and equipment maintenance, just to name a few. In combat, add to that the crushing duty of casualty evacuation – getting the dead and wounded to places on the battlefield where they can be properly cared for. Throughout it all, the high standard of the NCO Creed hangs over them as a constant expectation:
…Competence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind — accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain tactically and technically proficient … All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership. I know my soldiers and I will always place their needs above my own. I will communicate consistently with my soldiers and never leave them uninformed. I will be fair and impartial when recommending both rewards and punishment…
We hold these men and women in such awe that, sometimes, we forget that they are only human. The frustrations and tensions of a three-block war wear on them just as much as on any other soldier. But when another hot, frustrating patrol comes to its end, the private can always go back and punch a wall locker, play some XBox, or simply grab some much-needed rack time. But for the 1SG, there’s always another task, more duties, more of the beast that needs to be fed, that can keep them away from their own much-needed decompression.
All too often, leaders (both officer and NCO) forget that they need “maintenance” just as much as the complex machines that power their fighting skills. Some of this, I suspect, is an attempt to deny one’s own humanity – a desperate attempt to keep your mortality at bay, lest it surface at an inopportune moment with catastrophic consequences for those under your charge. Part of it is the “Mission, Men, Me” ethos that gets drilled into leaders – leaders are supposed to eat last, sleep last, and generally come after their soldiers in all areas, which in turn get subordinated to the needs of the task at hand. Mark Grimsley, a military historian of great renown, got it exactly right when he wrote (in response to this TIME article):
I wonder how many officers and NCOs self-disclose that they are taking the same [anti-anxiety] meds. If they keep this info away from their soldiers, they send a double message: overtly it’s OK for you to take these meds, but tacitly it’s really not because I wouldn’t be caught dead letting you know that I take them myself. It would require real moral courage, but an officer willing to talk matter-of-factly about taking these meds, and at the same time functioning effectively as an officer, would serve as a powerful role model.
Before I go, let's just remember what John McCain says about all this... "Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years
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Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 12:34:27
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 12:34:27
Mornin' Tri & Random.. 
Urgh it's already gonna be a long day. I walked in the office and the owner said the website crashed.
Urgh it's already gonna be a long day. I walked in the office and the owner said the website crashed.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 12:45:36
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 12:45:36
Reply to a customer inquiry to a leading online electronics retailer... my question was "Why is an open box item priced $15 MORE than the same new unopened item on your website?"
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting ******.
Please kindly note, all ****** pricing is determined collectively by our Marketing and Purchasing Departments. Generally our prices meet or beat the current market value. As a result, if the manufacturer and/or our competitors lower their prices, it is likely that we will follow suit in order to remain competitive (we do not price match, however). Unfortunately, I cannot provide you with more specific information at this time. Industry prices fluctuate so often and, in accordance with evolving technologies and the nature of supply and demand, it is near impossible to accurately forecast future pricing.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you.
Thank you,
Effie Xu
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 12:48:40
Well it's rather obvious. You're paying for the quality control performed by the person who opened the box. He may have even plugged it in for you to make sure it worked.
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 12:48:40
Quote by Scoopster:
Reply to a customer inquiry to a leading online electronics retailer... my question was "Why is an open box item priced $15 MORE than the same new unopened item on your website?"Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting ******.
Please kindly note, all ****** pricing is determined collectively by our Marketing and Purchasing Departments. Generally our prices meet or beat the current market value. As a result, if the manufacturer and/or our competitors lower their prices, it is likely that we will follow suit in order to remain competitive (we do not price match, however). Unfortunately, I cannot provide you with more specific information at this time. Industry prices fluctuate so often and, in accordance with evolving technologies and the nature of supply and demand, it is near impossible to accurately forecast future pricing.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you.
Thank you,
Effie Xu
Well it's rather obvious. You're paying for the quality control performed by the person who opened the box. He may have even plugged it in for you to make sure it worked.
Comment by 
Random on 06/17/2008 12:53:16
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
Random on 06/17/2008 12:53:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Reply to a customer inquiry to a leading online electronics retailer... my question was "Why is an open box item priced $15 MORE than the same new unopened item on your website?"Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting ******.
Please kindly note, all ****** pricing is determined collectively by our Marketing and Purchasing Departments. Generally our prices meet or beat the current market value. As a result, if the manufacturer and/or our competitors lower their prices, it is likely that we will follow suit in order to remain competitive (we do not price match, however). Unfortunately, I cannot provide you with more specific information at this time. Industry prices fluctuate so often and, in accordance with evolving technologies and the nature of supply and demand, it is near impossible to accurately forecast future pricing.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please visit our FAQs page. If you still need assistance, please feel free to email me directly and I will be happy to assist you.
Thank you,
Effie Xu
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:00:54
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:00:54
Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:03:57
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Random on 06/17/2008 13:03:57
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:12:29
Oh nonono.. it's an online-only retailer. I blocked out the company name.
And the item is a specialized keyboard for hardcore gaming.
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:12:29
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Oh nonono.. it's an online-only retailer. I blocked out the company name.
And the item is a specialized keyboard for hardcore gaming.
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:13:24
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:13:24
McCain Cookie Recipe:
1 part lies
1 part misguided loyalty to Bush
2 parts torture
pinch of misogyny
1 heaping teaspoon of Keating Five
Cook via the "liberal media"
Let the voters cool completely
Ram down America's throat.
1 part lies
1 part misguided loyalty to Bush
2 parts torture
pinch of misogyny
1 heaping teaspoon of Keating Five
Cook via the "liberal media"
Let the voters cool completely
Ram down America's throat.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:17:25
Wow...I dun do the comp Gaming. I hate using keyboards.
i'm console all the way.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:17:25
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Oh nonono.. it's an online-only retailer. I blocked out the company name.
And the item is a specialized keyboard for hardcore gaming.
Wow...I dun do the comp Gaming. I hate using keyboards.
i'm console all the way.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:19:31
I used to do console.. but PC is so much more flexible, usually more powerful, and for what I do less expensive. Tho if I had to get a console right now it'd have to be a Wii.. fantastic machine that is.
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:19:31
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Oh nonono.. it's an online-only retailer. I blocked out the company name.
And the item is a specialized keyboard for hardcore gaming.
Wow...I dun do the comp Gaming. I hate using keyboards.
i'm console all the way.
I used to do console.. but PC is so much more flexible, usually more powerful, and for what I do less expensive. Tho if I had to get a console right now it'd have to be a Wii.. fantastic machine that is.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:22:31
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:22:31
Ya know, mAnn's comments used to rile me up. Now it's just sad.
I wonder what kind of degenerative brain disease she has?
I wonder what kind of degenerative brain disease she has?
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:23:38
Poweful? yeah, if you want to shell out the cash to gte HIGH end machines, and even then you have to then customize it to get it as powerful as the PS3 or XBox 360. more versitle game selection for the consoles. Wii's great too, just for the fact i love waving the Wiimote around.
That aside, PC is the way to go for Adventure games. unfortunatly, i've got two games that hate me because my laptop has substandard video card that i can't change out because it's inbed...blood laptop.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:23:38
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
Wow...i know why it's cheaper to get online new then instore new. But...That's just creepy. How much did it cost unopened at the store?
New & Unopened $84.99, Open Box $99.99
The rep's name is also quite the appropriate double-entendre.. :lol:
that's instore? dear lord.
Unless there's like pot, or meth or something inside that open box...
Oh nonono.. it's an online-only retailer. I blocked out the company name.
And the item is a specialized keyboard for hardcore gaming.
Wow...I dun do the comp Gaming. I hate using keyboards.
i'm console all the way.
I used to do console.. but PC is so much more flexible, usually more powerful, and for what I do less expensive. Tho if I had to get a console right now it'd have to be a Wii.. fantastic machine that is.
That aside, PC is the way to go for Adventure games. unfortunatly, i've got two games that hate me because my laptop has substandard video card that i can't change out because it's inbed...blood laptop.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 06/17/2008 13:23:43
Shane-O on 06/17/2008 13:23:43
Quote by TriSec:
McCain Cookie Recipe:
1 part lies
1 part misguided loyalty to Bush
2 parts torture
pinch of misogyny
1 heaping teaspoon of Keating Five
Cook via the "liberal media"
Let the voters cool completely
Ram down America's throat.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:23:45
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:23:45
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:25:39
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:25:39
Quote by TriSec:
*snort*
Console gaming, eh? I probably got you beat with gadgets.
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 13:25:42
For extra texture you need to add a pair of flip-flops
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 13:25:42
Quote by TriSec:
McCain Cookie Recipe:
1 part lies
1 part misguided loyalty to Bush
2 parts torture
pinch of misogyny
1 heaping teaspoon of Keating Five
Cook via the "liberal media"
Let the voters cool completely
Ram down America's throat.
For extra texture you need to add a pair of flip-flops
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:28:55
:Twitch: WHO ARE YOU!
Random on 06/17/2008 13:28:55
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by TriSec:
McCain Cookie Recipe:
1 part lies
1 part misguided loyalty to Bush
2 parts torture
pinch of misogyny
1 heaping teaspoon of Keating Five
Cook via the "liberal media"
Let the voters cool completely
Ram down America's throat.
For extra texture you need to add a pair of flip-flops
:Twitch: WHO ARE YOU!
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:31:45
Whatever gets yaoff man. Just saying, ain't my Forte.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:31:45
Quote by Scoopster:
Mmmm.. maybe I should just get the $60 model..
Whatever gets yaoff man. Just saying, ain't my Forte.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/17/2008 13:33:11
m-hadley on 06/17/2008 13:33:11
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
I don't know nothing 'bout gaming or babies, but I do make a mean magic brownie :P
Cheers,
mfaye
I don't know nothing 'bout gaming or babies, but I do make a mean magic brownie :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:34:56
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:34:56
Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:35:20
OH! Random want a magic brownie.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:35:20
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
I don't know nothing 'bout gaming or babies, but I do make a mean magic brownie :P
Cheers,
mfaye
OH! Random want a magic brownie.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:37:03
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:37:03
If marriage is only for pro-creation, what does that make Mrs. TriSec and I, then?
[infertile, adopted child....]
Wow, I really DO hate America! :kickcan:
[infertile, adopted child....]
Wow, I really DO hate America! :kickcan:
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:37:50
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:37:50
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Comment by 
BobR on 06/17/2008 13:41:07
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
BobR on 06/17/2008 13:41:07
Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:42:09
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:42:09
Put a heavy down with a full load of pax on a non-ILS runway in zero-zero VMC and we'll talk, Random.
:peace:
:peace:
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 13:43:07
I heard someone talking about cooking the "herbs" in oil, then using that oil in the recipe. I seem to remember just tossing the herbs in (it's been a *long* time). Perhaps you could enlighten us on your technique... :P
BobR on 06/17/2008 13:43:07
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
I don't know nothing 'bout gaming or babies, but I do make a mean magic brownie :P
Cheers,
mfaye
I heard someone talking about cooking the "herbs" in oil, then using that oil in the recipe. I seem to remember just tossing the herbs in (it's been a *long* time). Perhaps you could enlighten us on your technique... :P
Comment by Shane-O on 06/17/2008 13:45:04
Shane-O on 06/17/2008 13:45:04
Quote by TriSec:
Put a heavy down with a full load of pax on a non-ILS runway in zero-zero VMC and we'll talk, Random.
:peace:
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:45:44
...And so are Movies, and books, and TV.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:45:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
...And so are Movies, and books, and TV.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:47:34
Some how you make that seem even more like a sim. I'm impressed. Doesn't make it a game.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:47:34
Quote by TriSec:
Put a heavy down with a full load of pax on a non-ILS runway in zero-zero VMC and we'll talk, Random.
:peace:
Some how you make that seem even more like a sim. I'm impressed. Doesn't make it a game.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:49:07
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 13:49:07
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:50:20
Another Random opinion. WOW is the devil.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:50:20
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:50:39
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:50:39
My preferred ride:
1950s vintage Martin 404. I fly with accurate sounds, but I'm using a modern Beechcraft KingAir panel. I love my radial engines, but I also like the modern avionics.
1950s vintage Martin 404. I fly with accurate sounds, but I'm using a modern Beechcraft KingAir panel. I love my radial engines, but I also like the modern avionics.
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/17/2008 13:52:17
livingonli on 06/17/2008 13:52:17
Good morning everyone. 
Don't fight. You're all pretty.
Don't fight. You're all pretty.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:52:27
You are a geek. a MAJOR geek.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:52:27
Quote by TriSec:
My preferred ride:
1950s vintage Martin 404. I fly with accurate sounds, but I'm using a modern Beechcraft KingAir panel. I love my radial engines, but I also like the modern avionics.
You are a geek. a MAJOR geek.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:53:55
Pretty? I'm a geek who doesn't see the light of day. I ain't pretty.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:53:55
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.
Don't fight. You're all pretty.
Pretty? I'm a geek who doesn't see the light of day. I ain't pretty.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:55:09
Bite your tongue! I love my Sims games!
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:55:09
Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Bite your tongue! I love my Sims games!
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 13:55:19
livingonli on 06/17/2008 13:55:19
It seems that most of the males in this blogs are geeks.
:thumbs through his copy of Secret Invasion #3:
:thumbs through his copy of Secret Invasion #3:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:56:47
I love to play games - video or otherwise. Think it stems from being an only child and not having anyone to play actual games with.
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:56:47
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
I love to play games - video or otherwise. Think it stems from being an only child and not having anyone to play actual games with.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:57:15
If by Sims, the EA game where you take people and live lives, that's vaguel a game. if by Sims you mean Simulator games, like flight Sim, then they are not games.
It isn't a game, if they actually use it in schools to teach.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:57:15
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Bite your tongue! I love my Sims games!
If by Sims, the EA game where you take people and live lives, that's vaguel a game. if by Sims you mean Simulator games, like flight Sim, then they are not games.
It isn't a game, if they actually use it in schools to teach.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:57:20
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:57:20
Morning btw :hug:
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:57:56
TriSec on 06/17/2008 13:57:56
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:58:04
Ah, someone who knows Random's pain. Games are keeping Random sane.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:58:04
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
I love to play games - video or otherwise. Think it stems from being an only child and not having anyone to play actual games with.
Ah, someone who knows Random's pain. Games are keeping Random sane.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:58:34
I meant the EA game. Okay I know it's kinda a chick game - like playing with dolls and all.
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 13:58:34
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Bite your tongue! I love my Sims games!
If by Sims, the EA game where you take people and live lives, that's vaguel a game. if by Sims you mean Simulator games, like flight Sim, then they are not games.
It isn't a game, if they actually use it in schools to teach.
I meant the EA game. Okay I know it's kinda a chick game - like playing with dolls and all.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:58:42
I'd put money that the females on this blog are also geeks.
Random on 06/17/2008 13:58:42
Quote by livingonli:
It seems that most of the males in this blogs are geeks.
:thumbs through his copy of Secret Invasion #3:
I'd put money that the females on this blog are also geeks.
Comment by 
Raine on 06/17/2008 13:59:41
That was actually one of the most creative ads I have seen for a politician. IT was really good.
Raine on 06/17/2008 13:59:41
Quote by Random:
To keep in name with my...uh..name.
Big John
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 13:59:47
What flight sim is this? Latest I have is FS2002. Don't think my PCs will handle anything newer.
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 13:59:47
Quote by TriSec:
My preferred ride:
1950s vintage Martin 404. I fly with accurate sounds, but I'm using a modern Beechcraft KingAir panel. I love my radial engines, but I also like the modern avionics.
What flight sim is this? Latest I have is FS2002. Don't think my PCs will handle anything newer.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 13:59:53
Hey...no one dislikes The Sims. It's fun and addicting. I must be going now...have fun ya'll
Random on 06/17/2008 13:59:53
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
oh? all those gadgets, and what are they good for? playing Flight Sim. If you want to do real gaming, just call me.
You wound me, sir. I've run a virtual airline for a number of years; hundreds of hours in the sim. [more than that, I've only kept a logbook for the past couple of years.]
I'll never fly a real plane; this is as close as I'm going to get.
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
Bite your tongue! I love my Sims games!
If by Sims, the EA game where you take people and live lives, that's vaguel a game. if by Sims you mean Simulator games, like flight Sim, then they are not games.
It isn't a game, if they actually use it in schools to teach.
I meant the EA game. Okay I know it's kinda a chick game - like playing with dolls and all.
Hey...no one dislikes The Sims. It's fun and addicting. I must be going now...have fun ya'll
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:00:06
WoW is horrible.... and extremely overcrowded. It's the Pokemon of online games.
I'm proud to say that I'm a Final Fantasy XI veteran..
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:00:06
Quote by Random:Another Random opinion. WOW is the devil.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
WoW is horrible.... and extremely overcrowded. It's the Pokemon of online games.
I'm proud to say that I'm a Final Fantasy XI veteran..
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 14:00:37
Raine on 06/17/2008 14:00:37
Oh and GooOOOoood MORNING!
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:01:51
At least on the blog no one gets a wedgie.
BTW, morning to Raine and Mala.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:01:51
Quote by TriSec:
At least on the blog no one gets a wedgie.
BTW, morning to Raine and Mala.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:01:58
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:01:58
I'm still flying FS9 (A century of Flight). I'm not convinced mine will handle FSX.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:02:25
I use them to vent alot.
Although I have an old Intellivision II system so I kinda go back a little in my gaming history
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:02:25
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
I love to play games - video or otherwise. Think it stems from being an only child and not having anyone to play actual games with.
Ah, someone who knows Random's pain. Games are keeping Random sane.
I use them to vent alot.
Although I have an old Intellivision II system so I kinda go back a little in my gaming history
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:02:26
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:02:26
BTW sweet ride Tri.. even the paint detail is vintage aviation.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 14:05:29
Raine on 06/17/2008 14:05:29
Did TRojan Rabbit do a hit and run?
I am with Mala. you are all pretty... :D
I am with Mala. you are all pretty... :D
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:06:50
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:06:50
Would it improve my geek cred if I told you not only do I fly the simulator, I have a Star Wars snowspeeder?
That one's a hoot; I can sit down on the deck and pull 700 knots. Many of the things I fly are "work", but the snowspeeder is great for 'venting'. I wove through Washington DC and flew under the Woodrow Wilson bridge the last time I had it out...
That one's a hoot; I can sit down on the deck and pull 700 knots. Many of the things I fly are "work", but the snowspeeder is great for 'venting'. I wove through Washington DC and flew under the Woodrow Wilson bridge the last time I had it out...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:07:00
I think that was Liv, but I think everyone's pretty too :D
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:07:00
Quote by Raine:
Did TRojan Rabbit do a hit and run?
I am with Mala. you are all pretty... :D
I think that was Liv, but I think everyone's pretty too :D
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:08:04
An homage to my aviation past....Eastern was "my" airline for a long, long, time. I miss the TriStars, too.
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:08:04
Quote by Scoopster:
BTW sweet ride Tri.. even the paint detail is vintage aviation.
An homage to my aviation past....Eastern was "my" airline for a long, long, time. I miss the TriStars, too.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:11:22
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:11:22
From DCRTV
Gregory To Replace Russert? - 6/17 - DCRTV hears reliable rumblings from NBC sources that former White House correspondent and current MSNBC political talk show host David Gregory (right) is at the very top of the list to replace late "Meet The Press" host Tim Russert.....
Gregory To Replace Russert? - 6/17 - DCRTV hears reliable rumblings from NBC sources that former White House correspondent and current MSNBC political talk show host David Gregory (right) is at the very top of the list to replace late "Meet The Press" host Tim Russert.....
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:12:05
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:12:05
Grampa Simpson: Did you call the girl from the Escort Service?
Lisa: They said their insurance doesn't cover you.
Grampa: Oh, there's a fly in the ointment.
Lisa: They said their insurance doesn't cover you.
Grampa: Oh, there's a fly in the ointment.
Comment by Shane-O on 06/17/2008 14:12:38
Shane-O on 06/17/2008 14:12:38
A smart beaver is hard to come by....
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 14:13:46
Raine on 06/17/2008 14:13:46
:rofl: The beaver Fun facts!
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 14:19:09
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you will), but Eastern used to be based in Atlanta. After its demise, ValuJet rose from its ashes until that bad crash in the everglades, whereupon AirTran rose from its ashes...
Is that about right?
I used to fly Eastern all the time when I was working a special project in Ocala, FL. We'd fly on their crappy DC9s into Gainesville's crappy airport.
BobR on 06/17/2008 14:19:09
Quote by TriSec:
An homage to my aviation past....Eastern was "my" airline for a long, long, time. I miss the TriStars, too.
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you will), but Eastern used to be based in Atlanta. After its demise, ValuJet rose from its ashes until that bad crash in the everglades, whereupon AirTran rose from its ashes...
Is that about right?
I used to fly Eastern all the time when I was working a special project in Ocala, FL. We'd fly on their crappy DC9s into Gainesville's crappy airport.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/17/2008 14:22:47
BobR,
Yes, you've got it - you just simmer the magic in cooking oil for about 20 minutes then you strain the stuff - sos your brownies don't taste like little bails of chocolate hay or straw - that't it. Oh, and they turn out better if they are a little undercooked and still slightly gooey
Wish I could whip up a batch for the entire bloggie :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/17/2008 14:22:47
Quote by BobR:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
I don't know nothing 'bout gaming or babies, but I do make a mean magic brownie :P
Cheers,
mfaye
I heard someone talking about cooking the "herbs" in oil, then using that oil in the recipe. I seem to remember just tossing the herbs in (it's been a *long* time). Perhaps you could enlighten us on your technique... :P
BobR,
Yes, you've got it - you just simmer the magic in cooking oil for about 20 minutes then you strain the stuff - sos your brownies don't taste like little bails of chocolate hay or straw - that't it. Oh, and they turn out better if they are a little undercooked and still slightly gooey
Wish I could whip up a batch for the entire bloggie :DCheers,
mfaye
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:27:59
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:27:59
Eastern Airlines
They were based in Atlanta and went head-to-head with Delta.
Derugulation killed them.
Some employees (Along with Pan Am employees) purchased a few 727-200s and formed Kiwi International (I flew it once; it blew goats for a nickel and gave back change).
Now totally defunct, a consortium has purchased the "Eastern" name and is contemplating launching short and medium-haul routes from a hub in Miami sometime in 2009. (Yeah, good luck with that...)
(bet you haven't seen that in a long time...)
They were based in Atlanta and went head-to-head with Delta.
Derugulation killed them.
Some employees (Along with Pan Am employees) purchased a few 727-200s and formed Kiwi International (I flew it once; it blew goats for a nickel and gave back change).
Now totally defunct, a consortium has purchased the "Eastern" name and is contemplating launching short and medium-haul routes from a hub in Miami sometime in 2009. (Yeah, good luck with that...)
(bet you haven't seen that in a long time...)
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:29:54
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:29:54
Tri's nostalgic for the days when he could fly before all the "Homeland Security" bullshit.
Any other airlines that blew goats.
Any other airlines that blew goats.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 14:30:01
FFXI is the illigetimate child of the Final Fantasy franchise. It tries to be Ever Quest and fails.
Random on 06/17/2008 14:30:01
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Another Random opinion. WOW is the devil.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
WoW is horrible.... and extremely overcrowded. It's the Pokemon of online games.
I'm proud to say that I'm a Final Fantasy XI veteran..
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:30:32
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:30:32
BTW, BobR, how come JetBlue doesn't fly to Atlanta?
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:39:17
Ah, I've got two stories from the 80s about that...
Once, I was dropped off at Logan about 20 minutes before my flight. Walked right through, waltzed through security, bypassed the lounge, and right onto the plane. It was a thing of beauty.
Another time, I misread my ticket and showed up on the wrong day. They put me on standby, and I wound up flying First Class to Palm Beach, the only time I have ever done so...
The last time we flew was 2003...again to Palm Beach for a friend's wedding. Nothing but hassle and irritation, and try doing it with a baby. (Javi wasn't 2 yet.)
I have an old rant that I posted on AAP about how Bush destroyed aviation for me; I might dust it off when I get home tonight.
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:39:17
Quote by livingonli:
Tri's nostalgic for the days when he could fly before all the "Homeland Security" bullshit.
Any other airlines that blew goats.
Ah, I've got two stories from the 80s about that...
Once, I was dropped off at Logan about 20 minutes before my flight. Walked right through, waltzed through security, bypassed the lounge, and right onto the plane. It was a thing of beauty.
Another time, I misread my ticket and showed up on the wrong day. They put me on standby, and I wound up flying First Class to Palm Beach, the only time I have ever done so...
The last time we flew was 2003...again to Palm Beach for a friend's wedding. Nothing but hassle and irritation, and try doing it with a baby. (Javi wasn't 2 yet.)
I have an old rant that I posted on AAP about how Bush destroyed aviation for me; I might dust it off when I get home tonight.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:39:17
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:39:17
Steph, Republicans are lousy in bed. You could do much better.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:41:45
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:41:45
Note for Senator McCain:
I am bitter and disillusioned with the politicians. I have not embraced religion or guns; I'll be voting for Obama, thank you very much.
I am bitter and disillusioned with the politicians. I have not embraced religion or guns; I'll be voting for Obama, thank you very much.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 14:42:01
Raine on 06/17/2008 14:42:01
I cling to the constitution... McCain says it like it is a bad thing!
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:43:00
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:43:00
Say, it's easy for the Republicans to do better than I'm expecting in this election.
I'm expecting a landslide. They can beat that and only lose by less than 10%, right?
I'm expecting a landslide. They can beat that and only lose by less than 10%, right?
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:44:47
Well after all like his butt buddy GWB said it's just a "goddamned piece of paper".
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:44:47
Quote by Raine:
I cling to the constitution... McCain says it like it is a bad thing!
Well after all like his butt buddy GWB said it's just a "goddamned piece of paper".
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 14:45:42
Hit and run? Me? Uh-uh. Especially not as a newbie.
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 14:45:42
Quote by Raine:
Did TRojan Rabbit do a hit and run?
I am with Mala. you are all pretty... :D
Hit and run? Me? Uh-uh. Especially not as a newbie.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 14:47:36
trojanrabbit on 06/17/2008 14:47:36
Eastern - The Wings of Man
that right?
that right?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:47:36
Actually... no I can't agree with that. I'd say it's more of an encapsulation of the entire legacy of Final Fantasy - it pulls elements from the entire franchise into one place and gives players a historical feel, while giving them a storyline that is different from the other games in the series.
As far as comparing it to other MMOs, it's not brainless play like WoW and not as complex to master as Everquest or Galaxies, but I will say that the game's economy is probably the toughest thing to figure out.
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 14:47:36
Quote by Random:FFXI is the illigetimate child of the Final Fantasy franchise. It tries to be Ever Quest and fails.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Another Random opinion. WOW is the devil.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
WoW is horrible.... and extremely overcrowded. It's the Pokemon of online games.
I'm proud to say that I'm a Final Fantasy XI veteran..
Actually... no I can't agree with that. I'd say it's more of an encapsulation of the entire legacy of Final Fantasy - it pulls elements from the entire franchise into one place and gives players a historical feel, while giving them a storyline that is different from the other games in the series.
As far as comparing it to other MMOs, it's not brainless play like WoW and not as complex to master as Everquest or Galaxies, but I will say that the game's economy is probably the toughest thing to figure out.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:48:18
We're hoping to see the thing when we get to DC in August...
And there was just a story in Javi's "Highlights" magazine about how the documents were saved from the Brits in the war of 1812...
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:48:18
Quote by Raine:
I cling to the constitution... McCain says it like it is a bad thing!
We're hoping to see the thing when we get to DC in August...
And there was just a story in Javi's "Highlights" magazine about how the documents were saved from the Brits in the war of 1812...
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:49:05
Yep!
The Official Airline of Walt Disney World, too! [cue If You Had Wings]
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:49:05
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Eastern - The Wings of Man
that right?
Yep!
The Official Airline of Walt Disney World, too! [cue If You Had Wings]
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:50:09
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:50:09
I think we found Sean Hannity’s new talking points.
Barack Obama is the presidential choice of evil people like terrorists and the French.
Barack Obama is the presidential choice of evil people like terrorists and the French.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:50:39
National Archives building (think the metro stop is Navy Memoral/Archives) but I'm sure ya'll have scoped that out already. :D
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:50:39
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
I cling to the constitution... McCain says it like it is a bad thing!
We're hoping to see the thing when we get to DC in August...
And there was just a story in Javi's "Highlights" magazine about how the documents were saved from the Brits in the war of 1812...
National Archives building (think the metro stop is Navy Memoral/Archives) but I'm sure ya'll have scoped that out already. :D
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:50:56
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:50:56
Cheeezzzzeeee :drool:
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:52:11
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:52:11
I still remember when we were in DC and when we walked by the Air and Space Museum and I think it was Mondo that commented that we found Tri's holy temple after we had walked past the Repent Now group who were using the Mall that weekend.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:52:50
Praise Cheezus.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:52:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Cheeezzzzeeee :drool:
Praise Cheezus.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:52:57
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:52:57
Ah, regarding France.
We visited Yorktowne on the way home from Disney last year, maybe I finally will right that blog about the shameful treatment of France...
Anyone on the East Coast (no strike on the rest of the US, it's just that our cities date to the Colonial Era)...look around your city. I guarantee you there will be something named after Washington, Revere.....and Lafayette.
A Frenchman designed Washington, DC. The Statue of Liberty is French. I daresay we owe more to France than we do England; without there help, no United States of America as we know it.
They saved our cookies at Yorktowne; we returned the favour at Normandy. Did that make us even?
We visited Yorktowne on the way home from Disney last year, maybe I finally will right that blog about the shameful treatment of France...
Anyone on the East Coast (no strike on the rest of the US, it's just that our cities date to the Colonial Era)...look around your city. I guarantee you there will be something named after Washington, Revere.....and Lafayette.
A Frenchman designed Washington, DC. The Statue of Liberty is French. I daresay we owe more to France than we do England; without there help, no United States of America as we know it.
They saved our cookies at Yorktowne; we returned the favour at Normandy. Did that make us even?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:56:00
I have pic of that freaky stage and "prayer tents" on my camera
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:56:00
Quote by livingonli:
I still remember when we were in DC and when we walked by the Air and Space Museum and I think it was Mondo that commented that we found Tri's holy temple after we had walked past the Repent Now group who were using the Mall that weekend.
I have pic of that freaky stage and "prayer tents" on my camera
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:56:51
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 14:56:51
Part squirrel :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:57:02
I miss Velveeta Jones already.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:57:02
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Cheeezzzzeeee :drool:
Praise Cheezus.
I miss Velveeta Jones already.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:58:20
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 14:58:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
I still remember when we were in DC and when we walked by the Air and Space Museum and I think it was Mondo that commented that we found Tri's holy temple after we had walked past the Repent Now group who were using the Mall that weekend.
I have pic of that freaky stage and "prayer tents" on my camera
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:58:52
TriSec on 06/17/2008 14:58:52
Actually, I consider this to be my home "temple".
I am a member in good standing, and have been since 1992. I proudly put a membership sticker on my car this summer; along with all my liberal adhesives, that should hopefully make a winger's head explode sometime.
I am a member in good standing, and have been since 1992. I proudly put a membership sticker on my car this summer; along with all my liberal adhesives, that should hopefully make a winger's head explode sometime.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:00:37
Ah yes - Kiwi... for some reason I thought former Eastern employees formed ValuJet too.
I used to have some Eastern dishes and other stuff I got at an airlines trade show. You can still find stuff like that as well as stuff from other defunct airlines.
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:00:37
Quote by TriSec:
Eastern Airlines
They were based in Atlanta and went head-to-head with Delta.
Derugulation killed them.
Some employees (Along with Pan Am employees) purchased a few 727-200s and formed Kiwi International (I flew it once; it blew goats for a nickel and gave back change).
Now totally defunct, a consortium has purchased the "Eastern" name and is contemplating launching short and medium-haul routes from a hub in Miami sometime in 2009. (Yeah, good luck with that...)
(bet you haven't seen that in a long time...)
Ah yes - Kiwi... for some reason I thought former Eastern employees formed ValuJet too.
I used to have some Eastern dishes and other stuff I got at an airlines trade show. You can still find stuff like that as well as stuff from other defunct airlines.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/17/2008 15:01:02
I miss Velveeta too - got me thinking about some smoked gouda, ummmm :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 06/17/2008 15:01:02
Quote by livingonli:Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Cheeezzzzeeee :drool:
Praise Cheezus.
I miss Velveeta Jones already.
I miss Velveeta too - got me thinking about some smoked gouda, ummmm :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:02:45
wait, where is Vel?
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:02:45
Quote by livingonli:Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Cheeezzzzeeee :drool:
Praise Cheezus.
I miss Velveeta Jones already.
wait, where is Vel?
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:02:57
Probably too hard to compete, and/or to get a gate. Delta is a monster here, and AirTran is number 2.
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:02:57
Quote by livingonli:
BTW, BobR, how come JetBlue doesn't fly to Atlanta?
Probably too hard to compete, and/or to get a gate. Delta is a monster here, and AirTran is number 2.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:03:28
Iowa, with the Red Cross...
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:03:28
Quote by wickedpam:
wait, where is Vel?
Iowa, with the Red Cross...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:03:47
Didn't even think to put them in the album, guess I should. Which pic are you refereing to?
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:03:47
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
I still remember when we were in DC and when we walked by the Air and Space Museum and I think it was Mondo that commented that we found Tri's holy temple after we had walked past the Repent Now group who were using the Mall that weekend.
I have pic of that freaky stage and "prayer tents" on my camera
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
Didn't even think to put them in the album, guess I should. Which pic are you refereing to?
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:05:11
alright already, I'll scan the pictures today.
Although I think the photo is not going to be as "squeezy" as you might be hoping... 
:rofl:
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:05:11
Quote by livingonli:
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
alright already, I'll scan the pictures today.
Although I think the photo is not going to be as "squeezy" as you might be hoping...
:rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:05:32
I knew she was waiting to see if she got a call - didn't know she was already there. Oh mine! Hope she and everyone are okay.
Saw a story on the morning news where locals and police/national guard were fighting cause locals we're allowed back to their homes.
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:05:32
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
wait, where is Vel?
Iowa, with the Red Cross...
I knew she was waiting to see if she got a call - didn't know she was already there. Oh mine! Hope she and everyone are okay.
Saw a story on the morning news where locals and police/national guard were fighting cause locals we're allowed back to their homes.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 15:07:22
That picture, Mala.
I'm just hoping it will be funny.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 15:07:22
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
alright already, I'll scan the pictures today.
Although I think the photo is not going to be as "squeezy" as you might be hoping...
That picture, Mala.
I'm just hoping it will be funny.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 15:08:23
Any MMO lacks the cohesive nature to tell a decent story. You can't have an ending, because with an ending, the game is over. And there is not story without an ending.
that being said, and any game that requires me to pay a fee atop of paying 50+ dollars to get the game, is a rip off.
Random on 06/17/2008 15:08:23
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:FFXI is the illigetimate child of the Final Fantasy franchise. It tries to be Ever Quest and fails.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Another Random opinion. WOW is the devil.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I am proud of my gaming addiction. Sim's are not gaming. course i don't think sports games are real games either.
gaming is for people who can't handle reality... complete waste of time, IMO...
Well I wouldn't go that far... it's more like we can't handle reality TV. :p
Unless you mean MMO addicts like myself, in which case you'd be spot on.
WoW is horrible.... and extremely overcrowded. It's the Pokemon of online games.
I'm proud to say that I'm a Final Fantasy XI veteran..
Actually... no I can't agree with that. I'd say it's more of an encapsulation of the entire legacy of Final Fantasy - it pulls elements from the entire franchise into one place and gives players a historical feel, while giving them a storyline that is different from the other games in the series.
As far as comparing it to other MMOs, it's not brainless play like WoW and not as complex to master as Everquest or Galaxies, but I will say that the game's economy is probably the toughest thing to figure out.
Any MMO lacks the cohesive nature to tell a decent story. You can't have an ending, because with an ending, the game is over. And there is not story without an ending.
that being said, and any game that requires me to pay a fee atop of paying 50+ dollars to get the game, is a rip off.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 15:10:20
Raine on 06/17/2008 15:10:20
Oh my gawd.. Waterloo sung by Brit hume?!?! I finally reached my Abba threshold.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:10:20
OH! That picture.
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:10:20
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Did you ever think of putting them in the photo album which is also still missing another particular photo that was taken in :star:'s room.
alright already, I'll scan the pictures today.
Although I think the photo is not going to be as "squeezy" as you might be hoping...
That picture, Mala.
OH! That picture.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:19:19
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 15:19:19
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:21:58
McCain is an old joke.
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:21:58
Quote by wickedpam:
his whole campaign is an "old" joke.
McCain is an old joke.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 15:23:40
And yet - he went on SNL and made old jokes about himself. I guess it stops being funny when someone's presidential campaign gets hurt. :rolleyes2:
BobR on 06/17/2008 15:23:40
Quote by Random:
McCain says "No more old Jokes"
And yet - he went on SNL and made old jokes about himself. I guess it stops being funny when someone's presidential campaign gets hurt. :rolleyes2:
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 15:31:39
Raine on 06/17/2008 15:31:39
Gee thanks *ush, for not shortening your fancy vacation... 
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:33:54
TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:33:54
Did you hear the snippet from the Genius-in-Chief about 'dealing with the floodwater' and 'finding out where it's going next'??
Uh, look at a map, retard. Next town downstream.
Uh, look at a map, retard. Next town downstream.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 15:34:05
ACtually, he doesn't seem to mind the Jokes, he DOES seem to mind it when people tell the truth, that he is confused about things. HE doesn't like it when someone says he has lost his bearing?
Jeepers, I thought Kerry was being rather nice, All I could think was that he has no idea what he is talking about anymore.
Raine on 06/17/2008 15:34:05
Quote by Random:
McCain says "No more old Jokes"
Jeepers, I thought Kerry was being rather nice, All I could think was that he has no idea what he is talking about anymore.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:35:26
TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:35:26
Once again, I will quote Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank...
"The only people affected by gay marriage were these folks that lived next to a lesbian couple. They got invited to the wedding and had to buy them a present..."
"The only people affected by gay marriage were these folks that lived next to a lesbian couple. They got invited to the wedding and had to buy them a present..."
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 15:36:08
I heard that. Pissed me right the hell off. He doesn't have a clue about what is going on.
Raine on 06/17/2008 15:36:08
Quote by TriSec:
Did you hear the snippet from the Genius-in-Chief about 'dealing with the floodwater' and 'finding out where it's going next'??
Uh, look at a map, retard. Next town downstream.
I heard that. Pissed me right the hell off. He doesn't have a clue about what is going on.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 15:38:53
Raine on 06/17/2008 15:38:53
IF people have to buy wedding gifts now, you would think that that would end up helping the economy, right?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 15:41:56
Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 15:41:56
Good morning, bloggers!!! Great blog entry, TriSec. If we had not diverted a lot of resources to Iraq, perhaps Afghanistan would not be falling apart.
I hope that everyone is doing well.
I took some time off this weekend for family and friends, now that the school year is wrapped up. (Now for more of the job search.)
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Also, as we could use some good news, here is a story from the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth:
I hope that everyone is doing well.
I took some time off this weekend for family and friends, now that the school year is wrapped up. (Now for more of the job search.)
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Also, as we could use some good news, here is a story from the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth:
Gaza truce to begin Thursday, Palestinian official says
I hope this works and that the hardliners on both sides will have to figure out to do what to do if peace breaks out.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 15:46:14
Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 15:46:14
Standing next to Bill O'Reilly humanizes this individual:
At least she has a biological excuse for being a misanthrope.
At least she has a biological excuse for being a misanthrope.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 15:57:58
livingonli on 06/17/2008 15:57:58
Bill-O didn't want to DO IT LIVE.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:58:50
TriSec on 06/17/2008 15:58:50
That's the end???
:kickcan:
:kickcan:
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 16:01:48
livingonli on 06/17/2008 16:01:48
Time flies when you're having fun.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 16:12:03
Raine on 06/17/2008 16:12:03
heya Will! Nice to see you!
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 16:12:42
TriSec on 06/17/2008 16:12:42
One for old times' sake:
Lunch awaits us.
Lunch awaits us, indeed.
:peace:
Lunch awaits us.
Lunch awaits us, indeed.
:peace:
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 16:12:48
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 16:12:48
Well a good long discussion of various types of gaming. And somebody who will remain nameless, spell Yorktown old tymey with an E.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 16:30:31
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 16:30:31
Thing about DC is that it's not a state.
WHich reminds me - back in DC Mondo, you asked where in DC I was born - just remembered the hospital. Columbia Hospital for Women (place doesn't exsist any more.)
WHich reminds me - back in DC Mondo, you asked where in DC I was born - just remembered the hospital. Columbia Hospital for Women (place doesn't exsist any more.)
Comment by Scoopster on 06/17/2008 16:39:40
Scoopster on 06/17/2008 16:39:40
Just downloaded the new Firefox..
For anyone else who got it - is it just me or does the text looks screwy?
For anyone else who got it - is it just me or does the text looks screwy?
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/17/2008 16:47:19
IzzyBitz on 06/17/2008 16:47:19
MMO and WOW?! I have no idea what you're talking about on bloggie this morning. 
I fear the bus is driving towards the comic book and science fiction ditch.
Celtics.Must.Win.Tonight.
I fear the bus is driving towards the comic book and science fiction ditch.
Celtics.Must.Win.Tonight.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 16:48:54
Massivly Multiplayer Online
World of Warcraft
Random on 06/17/2008 16:48:54
Quote by IzzyBitz:
MMO and WOW?! I have no idea what you're talking about on bloggie this morning.
I fear the bus is driving towards the comic book and science fiction ditch.
Celtics.Must.Win.Tonight.
Massivly Multiplayer Online
World of Warcraft
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 16:55:05
Yet I know exactly where it used to be, Mala.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 16:55:05
Quote by wickedpam:
Thing about DC is that it's not a state.
WHich reminds me - back in DC Mondo, you asked where in DC I was born - just remembered the hospital. Columbia Hospital for Women (place doesn't exsist any more.)
Yet I know exactly where it used to be, Mala.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:01:28
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:01:28
Well harumph! Mozilla.com has crashed.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:10:04
TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:10:04
Oooh, I haven't downloaded it at this time. I will eventually, but I'm figgerin' the servers to be a wee bit busy right now...
Us New Englanders pride ourselves on grammatical anachronisms, you know.
I wouldn't worry too much about the C's this evening. They'll be fired up by the Garden crowd, and LA really has no defense against the pick and roll, anyway.
Boston by a dozen. #17 in the rafters.
Us New Englanders pride ourselves on grammatical anachronisms, you know.
I wouldn't worry too much about the C's this evening. They'll be fired up by the Garden crowd, and LA really has no defense against the pick and roll, anyway.
Boston by a dozen. #17 in the rafters.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:20:15
TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:20:15
Mike Papontonio on John McCain:
"He's an angry, old, resentful, old man that has control of the bombs."
"He's an angry, old, resentful, old man that has control of the bombs."
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:23:09
About those grammatical anachronisms, I think it has something to do y'all thinking you own all the history.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:23:09
Quote by TriSec:
Oooh, I haven't downloaded it at this time. I will eventually, but I'm figgerin' the servers to be a wee bit busy right now...
Us New Englanders pride ourselves on grammatical anachronisms, you know.
I wouldn't worry too much about the C's this evening. They'll be fired up by the Garden crowd, and LA really has no defense against the pick and roll, anyway.
Boston by a dozen. #17 in the rafters.
About those grammatical anachronisms, I think it has something to do y'all thinking you own all the history.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:32:08
TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:32:08
Oh, not all the history. Only stuff since 1620.
: ducks incoming brick :
: ducks incoming brick :
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/17/2008 17:40:02
I think you're right, Tri. Izzy remembers the days when a 15 point Lakers lead pretty much meant a win. Now, not so much. I look forward to the Kobe meltdown towards his teammates when they lose. Hopefully this time he won't excite me with empty threats and actually leave the team. Oh, happy days!
IzzyBitz on 06/17/2008 17:40:02
Quote by TriSec:
I wouldn't worry too much about the C's this evening. They'll be fired up by the Garden crowd, and LA really has no defense against the pick and roll, anyway.
Boston by a dozen. #17 in the rafters.
I think you're right, Tri. Izzy remembers the days when a 15 point Lakers lead pretty much meant a win. Now, not so much. I look forward to the Kobe meltdown towards his teammates when they lose. Hopefully this time he won't excite me with empty threats and actually leave the team. Oh, happy days!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:42:17
Yeah those upstart middle class non-conformist religious fanatics that persecuted anybody who didn't toe the congregationalist/Calvinist line. See the founding of Rhode Island. BTW Maryland was founded with religious freedom in mind, unlike Massachusetts. :poke:
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:42:17
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, not all the history. Only stuff since 1620.
: ducks incoming brick :
Yeah those upstart middle class non-conformist religious fanatics that persecuted anybody who didn't toe the congregationalist/Calvinist line. See the founding of Rhode Island. BTW Maryland was founded with religious freedom in mind, unlike Massachusetts. :poke:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:45:15
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 17:45:15
King of the Hill:
Bill: Oh that Phil Graham is a horse's ass.
Gov. Ann Richards: He is the tackiest man in the US Senate.
:rofl:
Bill: Oh that Phil Graham is a horse's ass.
Gov. Ann Richards: He is the tackiest man in the US Senate.
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:48:10
TriSec on 06/17/2008 17:48:10
Bah, we don't need no steenkin' religious freedom!
:kneels, prays:
Yah, right, who am I kidding?
:kneels, prays:
Yah, right, who am I kidding?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 17:51:08
Good to be here.
I just wrapped up work on the Daily Headlines at UNN, so here are some jokes from Aaron Freeman who was part of the line up at the Greater Chicago Jewish Festival this Sunday!
"I think of Ehud Olmert as a somewhat dumber and less trustworthy version of George W. Bush."
"Bibi Netanyahu is a man who will say anything." (Doing bad impression): "We believe in trading land for peace. Not Israeli land. In Illinois, there is a town called Palatine. We completely support the Palatine Liberation Organization."
Will in Chicago on 06/17/2008 17:51:08
Quote by Raine:
heya Will! Nice to see you!
Good to be here.
I just wrapped up work on the Daily Headlines at UNN, so here are some jokes from Aaron Freeman who was part of the line up at the Greater Chicago Jewish Festival this Sunday!
"I think of Ehud Olmert as a somewhat dumber and less trustworthy version of George W. Bush."
"Bibi Netanyahu is a man who will say anything." (Doing bad impression): "We believe in trading land for peace. Not Israeli land. In Illinois, there is a town called Palatine. We completely support the Palatine Liberation Organization."
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 17:58:13
Raine on 06/17/2008 17:58:13
St. Louis is starting to see flood conditions now... :(
Comment by wickedpam on 06/17/2008 18:03:29
wickedpam on 06/17/2008 18:03:29
Question - if they are concerned with the Mississippi River flooding is there a chance New Orleans could flood again?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:15:09
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:15:09
Quote by wickedpam:
Question - if they are concerned with the Mississippi River flooding is there a chance New Orleans could flood again?
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 18:19:16
Raine on 06/17/2008 18:19:16
HAve I told you that *ush is a sonofabiatch?
From his briefing on the flooding: Bold Face Mine.
That upcoming supplemental?
That is the War Spending Supplemental set to be voted on this week.
From his briefing on the flooding:
And finally, Director Nussle is here from the Budget Office. We've got what we called a Disaster Relief Fund. There's enough money in that fund to take care of this disaster. But what we're concerned about is future disasters this year. And therefore, we're going to work with the Congress. Jim Nussle is going to go up to work with Congress to get enough money in the upcoming supplemental to make sure that fund is -- has got enough money to deal with a potential disaster, another disaster this year.
Congress doesn't need to worry about working with the White House on this, because we think the supplemental is the way to go. What they do need to worry about is making sure that there is enough but not too much money in the fund, so we can say we have done our job.
That upcoming supplemental?
That is the War Spending Supplemental set to be voted on this week.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 18:23:22
I wouldn't be so sure about that...the Mississippi is walled in for hundreds of miles of it's length; there is no floodplain anymore so all that water can only go downstream.
TriSec on 06/17/2008 18:23:22
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Question - if they are concerned with the Mississippi River flooding is there a chance New Orleans could flood again?
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
I wouldn't be so sure about that...the Mississippi is walled in for hundreds of miles of it's length; there is no floodplain anymore so all that water can only go downstream.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 18:25:24
This is just getting worser and worser.
Raine on 06/17/2008 18:25:24
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
Question - if they are concerned with the Mississippi River flooding is there a chance New Orleans could flood again?
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
I wouldn't be so sure about that...the Mississippi is walled in for hundreds of miles of it's length; there is no floodplain anymore so all that water can only go downstream.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 18:25:50
This is assuming they can "average" the huge blob of water coming down the pike so that by the time it reaches NoLa, it's a 7 day elevated crest instead of a 3 day spike.
I have a feeling that with all the swollen tributaries feeding the Mississippi, they aren't going to be able to manage it enough.
I am also wondering what the conditions of the levees in NoLa are like these days.
BobR on 06/17/2008 18:25:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
This is assuming they can "average" the huge blob of water coming down the pike so that by the time it reaches NoLa, it's a 7 day elevated crest instead of a 3 day spike.
I have a feeling that with all the swollen tributaries feeding the Mississippi, they aren't going to be able to manage it enough.
I am also wondering what the conditions of the levees in NoLa are like these days.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:26:58
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:26:58
:mutter: Nice going Mozilla. You want people to download today? Well thats nice to bad every friggin mirror site is crashing.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 18:27:35
I hope Congress is smart enough to make any extra disaster funding it's own bill, instead of making it an "earmark" on the unrelated Occupation Funding Supplemental.
BobR on 06/17/2008 18:27:35
Quote by Raine:
HAve I told you that *ush is a sonofabiatch?
From his briefing on the flooding: Bold Face Mine.
That upcoming supplemental?
That is the War Spending Supplemental set to be voted on this week.
I hope Congress is smart enough to make any extra disaster funding it's own bill, instead of making it an "earmark" on the unrelated Occupation Funding Supplemental.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:30:26
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 18:30:26
Hey I'm just sayin' what I heard on the NPR mosheen.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 18:36:18
Raine on 06/17/2008 18:36:18
IT should also be mentioned, regarding disasters, and the disaster relief fund, that we are at the BEGINNING of Hurricane season.
Did we use that money for the wildfires in California? I don't remember anyone mentioning the money being spent there. Aside from that, what other national disasters have we had?
My blood pressure is rising like the waters of the Mississippi river.
Did we use that money for the wildfires in California? I don't remember anyone mentioning the money being spent there. Aside from that, what other national disasters have we had?
My blood pressure is rising like the waters of the Mississippi river.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 18:43:35
They had over 4 inches of rain there and major street flooding on Sunday... And then there is this:
New Orleans at risk for a Cat 2 Hurricanwe The levees are not in place yet. Granted they are talking about a storm surge breaching the levees (outside going in) but if those levees are not full in place, I am very concerned for people along the southern part of the Mississippi river. I would have to see how many feet a cat 2 or 3 strom surge would be, compared to how many feet is expected for the river to rise.
Raine on 06/17/2008 18:43:35
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
I think I heard something about that on the radio mosheen the other day. Something about the volume of water, the miles down river hydrology and engineering stuff...long story short not much of a risk for NoLa.
This is assuming they can "average" the huge blob of water coming down the pike so that by the time it reaches NoLa, it's a 7 day elevated crest instead of a 3 day spike.
I have a feeling that with all the swollen tributaries feeding the Mississippi, they aren't going to be able to manage it enough.
I am also wondering what the conditions of the levees in NoLa are like these days.
New Orleans at risk for a Cat 2 Hurricanwe The levees are not in place yet. Granted they are talking about a storm surge breaching the levees (outside going in) but if those levees are not full in place, I am very concerned for people along the southern part of the Mississippi river. I would have to see how many feet a cat 2 or 3 strom surge would be, compared to how many feet is expected for the river to rise.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 18:57:51
livingonli on 06/17/2008 18:57:51
I should be glad I'm not in the Midwest.
I'm back from running errands if you wonder where I've been.
I'm back from running errands if you wonder where I've been.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 19:04:13
livingonli on 06/17/2008 19:04:13
Did the blog just burp?
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 19:06:34
Seems like the DB Server was restarted or something...
BobR on 06/17/2008 19:06:34
Quote by livingonli:
Did the blog just burp?
Seems like the DB Server was restarted or something...
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 19:07:41
PROOF! The gays cause straight people to divorce!
Raine on 06/17/2008 19:07:41
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 19:12:03
livingonli on 06/17/2008 19:12:03
And George Bush underwear causes people to lose their lunch. 
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:18:45
TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:18:45
Hmm, my gay friend stood for me as my Best Man, my marriage hasn't fallen apart yet.
Come close a couple of times, yes....but still here. :peace:
Come close a couple of times, yes....but still here. :peace:
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:27:27
TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:27:27
Further signs of the coming apocalypse:
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 19:28:57
Raine on 06/17/2008 19:28:57
The DNC is taking the FEC to court to force and Investigation of John McCain breaking the public Financing laws.
I posted a thread from the MEssage board to give all the background to this story.
I posted a thread from the MEssage board to give all the background to this story.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 19:42:06
I didn't know they were trying to break a world record for Downloads. I thought people were just excited about the new Firefox.
Raine on 06/17/2008 19:42:06
Quote by Mondobubba:
:mutter: Nice going Mozilla. You want people to download today? Well thats nice to bad every friggin mirror site is crashing.
I didn't know they were trying to break a world record for Downloads. I thought people were just excited about the new Firefox.
Comment by TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:58:00
TriSec on 06/17/2008 19:58:00
Well now, my iPod just spat out "Let's Go Crazy", which of course was one of the top hits of 1984, which of course was Championship #15 for our Boston Celtics...
I'll take that as an omen!
:party:
I'll take that as an omen!
:party:
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 20:02:40
livingonli on 06/17/2008 20:02:40
Time to head off to the salt mine. I think I will wait until the craziness stops before I download the new Firefox.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 20:33:31
Random on 06/17/2008 20:33:31
...Funny video.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 20:54:02
Raine on 06/17/2008 20:54:02
HEre is a thought, maybe people could report on politics insted of discussing political ads as tho they are newsworthy?
I swear, I hate when the talking heads do segments about political Ads. It is nothing but FREE airtime for candidates.
I swear, I hate when the talking heads do segments about political Ads. It is nothing but FREE airtime for candidates.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 20:57:30
Well...Only if those ads are like...REALLY racist. Then i can condone the reporting on the ads.
Random on 06/17/2008 20:57:30
Quote by Raine:
HEre is a thought, maybe people could report on politics insted of discussing political ads as tho they are newsworthy?
I swear, I hate when the talking heads do segments about political Ads. It is nothing but FREE airtime for candidates.
Well...Only if those ads are like...REALLY racist. Then i can condone the reporting on the ads.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:07:57
:hackles rise: Before you mention the McDonalds lawsuit again, please read.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:07:57
Quote by TriSec:
Further signs of the coming apocalypse:
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
:hackles rise: Before you mention the McDonalds lawsuit again, please read.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 21:09:19
I case no one wants to read the linkity:
Raine on 06/17/2008 21:09:19
Quote by Raine:
Senate Republicans block tax break bill.
Unfazed by pressure from Democrats and the business community, Republicans for the second time in a week prevented the Senate from taking up a tax bill providing more than $50 billion in renewable energy credits and tax breaks for families and businesses.
The vote today to move to the legislation was 52-44, eight short of the 60 votes needed. Only five Republicans voted to end the filibuster against action on the bill: others objected to the Democratic plan to pay for the tax relief by making some hedge fund managers and multinational corporations pay more taxes.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 21:14:53
So? at some point common sense plays a role here. Coffee is hot. Will burn if if carelessly placed between thighs with open lid.
Not saying McDonald's wasn't an ass ingoring her. But we should not be rewarding every dumb f*** who thinks wearing a superman costume will make them fly.
Random on 06/17/2008 21:14:53
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Further signs of the coming apocalypse:
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
:hackles rise: Before you mention the McDonalds lawsuit again, please read.
So? at some point common sense plays a role here. Coffee is hot. Will burn if if carelessly placed between thighs with open lid.
Not saying McDonald's wasn't an ass ingoring her. But we should not be rewarding every dumb f*** who thinks wearing a superman costume will make them fly.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:31:39
Random, that is part of the myth, that she had the coffee cup between her thighs. The issue was very simple, McDonalds knew coffee at 185 degrees was a danger, didn't do anything about the issue and blew the woman off when she asked to have her medical billed paided for. If this had been a single incident, it might be different, but McDolands settled 700 other claims out of court. Random doesn't understand torts and sounds like a Republican spew crap about tort reform. :Mondo climbs off soapbox:
Lemme ask you this did the little girl in the case that made John Edwards not deserve the damages she got for the horrific injuries she suffered because a company decided to use three screws instead of five on pool filter intake screen just to save a few bucks. She had about half of her intestines sucked out by the faulty design. Was this her fault? Should she has "taken personal responsibilty" to avoid a lifetime of pain and suffering?
These two cases are equals in tort theory; the company knew they were doing something that could cause harm and didn't take steps to mitigate the potential for harm.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:31:39
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Further signs of the coming apocalypse:
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
:hackles rise: Before you mention the McDonalds lawsuit again, please read.
So? at some point common sense plays a role here. Coffee is hot. Will burn if if carelessly placed between thighs with open lid.
Not saying McDonald's wasn't an ass ingoring her. But we should not be rewarding every dumb f*** who thinks wearing a superman costume will make them fly.
Random, that is part of the myth, that she had the coffee cup between her thighs. The issue was very simple, McDonalds knew coffee at 185 degrees was a danger, didn't do anything about the issue and blew the woman off when she asked to have her medical billed paided for. If this had been a single incident, it might be different, but McDolands settled 700 other claims out of court. Random doesn't understand torts and sounds like a Republican spew crap about tort reform. :Mondo climbs off soapbox:
Lemme ask you this did the little girl in the case that made John Edwards not deserve the damages she got for the horrific injuries she suffered because a company decided to use three screws instead of five on pool filter intake screen just to save a few bucks. She had about half of her intestines sucked out by the faulty design. Was this her fault? Should she has "taken personal responsibilty" to avoid a lifetime of pain and suffering?
These two cases are equals in tort theory; the company knew they were doing something that could cause harm and didn't take steps to mitigate the potential for harm.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:36:19
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:36:19
OMG! FaceBook is broken! :runs around in a tizzy like Chicken Little: The world is coming to an end! Woe, woe, woe!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:37:34
Brilliant! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 21:37:34
Quote by Raine:PROOF! The gays cause straight people to divorce!
Brilliant! :rofl:
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 21:45:30
I'm not going to argue wether McDonalds was neglegent or not. They were. And probably should be taken to task for it.
But the woman was an idiot. She did something stupid and got paid for it. It would have been different if say, she'd been walking out and tripped, spilling the coffee over herself.
This isn't a case of good versus evil here, this is a case of stupid versus stupid.
As far as the little girl, it's real nice you try to guilt me into changing my opinion. There is not particular common sense case.
Random on 06/17/2008 21:45:30
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Further signs of the coming apocalypse:
"Careful: small objects, like hard candies, may inadvertently become lodged in the throat."
Seen on a piece of hard candy.
File under "Warning: HOT! Do not pour on crotch!"
:hackles rise: Before you mention the McDonalds lawsuit again, please read.
So? at some point common sense plays a role here. Coffee is hot. Will burn if if carelessly placed between thighs with open lid.
Not saying McDonald's wasn't an ass ingoring her. But we should not be rewarding every dumb f*** who thinks wearing a superman costume will make them fly.
Random, that is part of the myth, that she had the coffee cup between her thighs. The issue was very simple, McDonalds knew coffee at 185 degrees was a danger, didn't do anything about the issue and blew the woman off when she asked to have her medical billed paided for. If this had been a single incident, it might be different, but McDolands settled 700 other claims out of court. Random doesn't understand torts and sounds like a Republican spew crap about tort reform. :Mondo climbs off soapbox:
Lemme ask you this did the little girl in the case that made John Edwards not deserve the damages she got for the horrific injuries she suffered because a company decided to use three screws instead of five on pool filter intake screen just to save a few bucks. She had about half of her intestines sucked out by the faulty design. Was this her fault? Should she has "taken personal responsibilty" to avoid a lifetime of pain and suffering?
These two cases are equals in tort theory; the company knew they were doing something that could cause harm and didn't take steps to mitigate the potential for harm.
I'm not going to argue wether McDonalds was neglegent or not. They were. And probably should be taken to task for it.
But the woman was an idiot. She did something stupid and got paid for it. It would have been different if say, she'd been walking out and tripped, spilling the coffee over herself.
This isn't a case of good versus evil here, this is a case of stupid versus stupid.
As far as the little girl, it's real nice you try to guilt me into changing my opinion. There is not particular common sense case.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 21:57:31
In Republican world, the money should only go to the haves and have-mores. I think we know that the GOP are the real elitists.
livingonli on 06/17/2008 21:57:31
Quote by Raine:I case no one wants to read the linkity:Quote by Raine:
Senate Republicans block tax break bill.Unfazed by pressure from Democrats and the business community, Republicans for the second time in a week prevented the Senate from taking up a tax bill providing more than $50 billion in renewable energy credits and tax breaks for families and businesses.
The vote today to move to the legislation was 52-44, eight short of the 60 votes needed. Only five Republicans voted to end the filibuster against action on the bill: others objected to the Democratic plan to pay for the tax relief by making some hedge fund managers and multinational corporations pay more taxes.
In Republican world, the money should only go to the haves and have-mores. I think we know that the GOP are the real elitists.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 22:08:38
I agree with Random - the cases are NOT equal, not in the degree of pain and suffering and not in the degree of culpability on the part of the plaintiffs. In fact, I'd say you (Mondo) tossed out a strawman argument.
I am quite familiar with the McDonalds case, and argue against tort reform whenever some tool brings that up as a slam on "trial lawyers", just like I do when someone calls Edward's case a "hot tub accident".
By your logic, ALL product liability cases are exactly the same.
Bad argument.
I also think TriSec's comments are valid - there are plenty of "warnings" on products that are completely absurd because some idiot did something stupid and/or used a product in a way that was clearly wrong and dangerous.
BobR on 06/17/2008 22:08:38
Quote by Random:
I'm not going to argue wether McDonalds was neglegent or not. They were. And probably should be taken to task for it.
But the woman was an idiot. She did something stupid and got paid for it. It would have been different if say, she'd been walking out and tripped, spilling the coffee over herself.
This isn't a case of good versus evil here, this is a case of stupid versus stupid.
As far as the little girl, it's real nice you try to guilt me into changing my opinion. There is not particular common sense case.
I agree with Random - the cases are NOT equal, not in the degree of pain and suffering and not in the degree of culpability on the part of the plaintiffs. In fact, I'd say you (Mondo) tossed out a strawman argument.
I am quite familiar with the McDonalds case, and argue against tort reform whenever some tool brings that up as a slam on "trial lawyers", just like I do when someone calls Edward's case a "hot tub accident".
By your logic, ALL product liability cases are exactly the same.
Bad argument.
I also think TriSec's comments are valid - there are plenty of "warnings" on products that are completely absurd because some idiot did something stupid and/or used a product in a way that was clearly wrong and dangerous.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 22:14:32
I had a feeling that was vaguely republican.
Mondo
Makes me wihs i thought of strawman...would have been better stated on my second part. Ah well.
Random on 06/17/2008 22:14:32
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I'm not going to argue wether McDonalds was neglegent or not. They were. And probably should be taken to task for it.
But the woman was an idiot. She did something stupid and got paid for it. It would have been different if say, she'd been walking out and tripped, spilling the coffee over herself.
This isn't a case of good versus evil here, this is a case of stupid versus stupid.
As far as the little girl, it's real nice you try to guilt me into changing my opinion. There is not particular common sense case.
I agree with Random - the cases are NOT equal, not in the degree of pain and suffering and not in the degree of culpability on the part of the plaintiffs. In fact, I'd say you (Mondo) tossed out a strawman argument.
I had a feeling that was vaguely republican.
MondoMakes me wihs i thought of strawman...would have been better stated on my second part. Ah well.
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 22:15:35
livingonli on 06/17/2008 22:15:35
If anyone didn't get the e-mail, Steph will be on Larry King tonight.
Sheboygan, Hello!
Sheboygan, Hello!
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 22:16:00
:rofl: ooga booga I am scared, they got 30 people! And that guy scares me>>>
Raine on 06/17/2008 22:16:00
Quote by Random:
Prominent Dem supports McCain
And it's not Lieberman
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 22:17:48
lol. I love the fact the guy isn't particularly a dem. he's just running to piss off Wise.
That, and the guys response when questioned about it.
Random on 06/17/2008 22:17:48
Quote by Raine::rofl: ooga booga I am scared, they got 30 people! And that guy scares me>>>Quote by Random:
Prominent Dem supports McCain
And it's not Lieberman
lol. I love the fact the guy isn't particularly a dem. he's just running to piss off Wise.
That, and the guys response when questioned about it.
Comment by BobR on 06/17/2008 22:31:04
BobR on 06/17/2008 22:31:04
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 22:58:38
Random on 06/17/2008 22:58:38
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:01:08
The first person shooter one?
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:01:08
Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:04:21
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Random on 06/17/2008 23:04:21
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:08:22
:RMS: Nice!
.
Here is another reason not vote for McCain. Cindy's middle name is Lou. That's right, Cindy Lou Hensley McCain. A cheerleader when she was at USC to boot.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:08:22
Quote by BobR:
:RMS: Nice!
.
Here is another reason not vote for McCain. Cindy's middle name is Lou. That's right, Cindy Lou Hensley McCain. A cheerleader when she was at USC to boot.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:11:01
Yeah it is a Florida one! So we are especially blessed.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:11:01
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Yeah it is a Florida one! So we are especially blessed.
Comment by Raine on 06/17/2008 23:12:55
and when she got caught, she promptly shut down the Charity.
::: Annie Savoy ::: You could look it up.
Raine on 06/17/2008 23:12:55
Quote by BobR:
::: Annie Savoy ::: You could look it up.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:14:37
God...i think i've already made the comparison to Reefer madness.
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Random on 06/17/2008 23:14:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Yeah it is a Florida one! So we are especially blessed.
God...i think i've already made the comparison to Reefer madness.
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:20:00
I did! How do you think I found out about the middle name and the cheer leading?
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:20:00
Quote by Raine:and when she got caught, she promptly shut down the Charity.Quote by BobR:
::: Annie Savoy ::: You could look it up.
I did! How do you think I found out about the middle name and the cheer leading?
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 23:21:01
Does it go back before Jeb Bush became governor?
livingonli on 06/17/2008 23:21:01
Quote by Random:
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Does it go back before Jeb Bush became governor?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:21:23
Cause of the biiiiiiiiiiiiiig pile o' cash we got in the tobacco settlement a few years ago.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:21:23
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Yeah it is a Florida one! So we are especially blessed.
God...i think i've already made the comparison to Reefer madness.
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Cause of the biiiiiiiiiiiiiig pile o' cash we got in the tobacco settlement a few years ago.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:22:43
Florida's stupidity in some areas runs very, very deep.
Mondobubba on 06/17/2008 23:22:43
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Does it go back before Jeb Bush became governor?
Florida's stupidity in some areas runs very, very deep.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:22:45
God...I hate Florida. Sooo much. We were first in the standardized testing. And we're still one of the dumbest in the country
Random on 06/17/2008 23:22:45
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
okay...Stop with the stop smoking commericals already...it's stupid.
The first person shooter one?
YES!
Dear lord. Makes me want to light up just watching.
Yeah it is a Florida one! So we are especially blessed.
God...i think i've already made the comparison to Reefer madness.
Why does Florida have to be so stupid...
Cause of the biiiiiiiiiiiiiig pile o' cash we got in the tobacco settlement a few years ago.
God...I hate Florida. Sooo much. We were first in the standardized testing. And we're still one of the dumbest in the country
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:28:05
Random on 06/17/2008 23:28:05
Wow...I'm watching Hard ball.
Those are some interesting ads.
Those are some interesting ads.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:31:02
Random on 06/17/2008 23:31:02
Chuck Hagel as Obama VP?
Comment by livingonli on 06/17/2008 23:35:51
livingonli on 06/17/2008 23:35:51
I remember one night a few years ago talking to a friend of a friend and she was talking about how bad the Florida schools and saying how the only goal seemed to be to make sure you knew just enough to get a low-paying job especially for the tourist industry. So much for trying to challenge people intellectually.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:42:32
That seems about right.
Random on 06/17/2008 23:42:32
Quote by livingonli:
I remember one night a few years ago talking to a friend of a friend and she was talking about how bad the Florida schools and saying how the only goal seemed to be to make sure you knew just enough to get a low-paying job especially for the tourist industry. So much for trying to challenge people intellectually.
That seems about right.
Comment by Random on 06/17/2008 23:53:52
Random on 06/17/2008 23:53:52
Random wonders about those who supported Hillary that now Support McCain.
Do they just hate Obama with a passion that blinds them to their own needs? or are they buying into the hype, and becoming this cycles Regean Democrats?
Do they just hate Obama with a passion that blinds them to their own needs? or are they buying into the hype, and becoming this cycles Regean Democrats?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:20:58
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:20:58
"The coasts of New Orleans and Houston?' I didn't know they were coastal cities. News to me Grampy.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 00:24:43
Random on 06/18/2008 00:24:43
I thought Houston was pretty far inland, actually.
Ahwell.
Ahwell.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 00:34:55
Houston is on the gulf. It's directly linked to Galveston Bay by a waterway.
BobR on 06/18/2008 00:34:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
"The coasts of New Orleans and Houston?' I didn't know they were coastal cities. News to me Grampy.
Houston is on the gulf. It's directly linked to Galveston Bay by a waterway.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:35:39
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:35:39
KO with the Harry Potter reference. :rofl:
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 00:38:03
Ah...Random missed that.
He has...issuses that makes him stay in...different part of the house more then he'd like.
Random on 06/18/2008 00:38:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
KO with the Harry Potter reference. :rofl:
Ah...Random missed that.
He has...issuses that makes him stay in...different part of the house more then he'd like.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 00:45:22
Random on 06/18/2008 00:45:22
Is it strange i want one of those Curious George Obama sock thingies.
They look so cute and cuddly.
They look so cute and cuddly.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 00:51:40
livingonli on 06/18/2008 00:51:40
Tonight we finally have on something that doesn't suck.
Pearl Jam live at MSG from the 2003 tour.
:waiting to hear BushLeaguer:
Pearl Jam live at MSG from the 2003 tour.
:waiting to hear BushLeaguer:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:55:39
Not really, it is linked to the Gulf of Mexico by the Galveston ship channel which used to be Buffalo Bayou. The red blob on the map is Houston it isn't right on the coast it is about 30-45 mile inland.
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 00:55:39
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
"The coasts of New Orleans and Houston?' I didn't know they were coastal cities. News to me Grampy.
Houston is on the gulf. It's directly linked to Galveston Bay by a waterway.
Not really, it is linked to the Gulf of Mexico by the Galveston ship channel which used to be Buffalo Bayou. The red blob on the map is Houston it isn't right on the coast it is about 30-45 mile inland.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 01:10:09
Random on 06/18/2008 01:10:09
Pat is a freak...a major freak.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 01:12:34
livingonli on 06/18/2008 01:12:34
Is Momma on Larry King?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:17:24
Not yet...
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:17:24
Quote by livingonli:
Is Momma on Larry King?
Not yet...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:25:23
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:25:23
Momma is on now. She is not wearing the magic purple sweater. Oh gee it is Ed and Momma and two GOP apologists.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:30:40
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 01:30:40
Okay this is making my head hurt. Especially Ed Schultz and the two African American folks who are pimping for McCain.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 01:42:09
He is really the second coming of Dubya. I just got done watching KO, I saw that. UNBELIEVABLE. HE is an oil addict.
Raine on 06/18/2008 01:42:09
Quote by Mondobubba:
"The coasts of New Orleans and Houston?' I didn't know they were coastal cities. News to me Grampy.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 01:44:08
Raine on 06/18/2008 01:44:08
I will watch Momma when Shane-O submits the youtuberey of it. I saw the last 10 seconds. Momma looked like she was afraid to get cooties from that guy she was next to.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 01:46:11
Raine on 06/18/2008 01:46:11
Food for thought: is Momma becoming the Carol Channing for Larry King?
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 01:53:24
Random on 06/18/2008 01:53:24
Wow...Abrams is digging into Pat.
It's great.
It's great.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 02:00:23
Republicans are known for their cooties.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 02:00:23
Quote by Raine:
I will watch Momma when Shane-O submits the youtuberey of it. I saw the last 10 seconds. Momma looked like she was afraid to get cooties from that guy she was next to.
Republicans are known for their cooties.
Comment by MNRN on 06/18/2008 02:08:16
MNRN on 06/18/2008 02:08:16
meh.missed momma on the mosheen. kids took over the teevee. now my head hurts cause eldestgrrl is trying out all the ring tones on her phone REALLY LOUD. help.
BTW....don't START about swimming pool cases if your nurse is around. Remember, she was my patient, and now she is dead for no.good.fucking.reason.
sorry. loved that kid.
okay, lets see, what is good. we had ribs tonite, just the grrls. yum. I had a beer too.
gotta go get those grrls off to the land of nod.
hugs to all the brogger peeps.
nurse laydee OUT
BTW....don't START about swimming pool cases if your nurse is around. Remember, she was my patient, and now she is dead for no.good.fucking.reason.
sorry. loved that kid.
okay, lets see, what is good. we had ribs tonite, just the grrls. yum. I had a beer too.
gotta go get those grrls off to the land of nod.
hugs to all the brogger peeps.
nurse laydee OUT
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 02:56:18
livingonli on 06/18/2008 02:56:18
Poor MNRN. No wonder why I don't see you on the blog as much. Too much stuff to do there. 
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 06:23:38
livingonli on 06/18/2008 06:23:38
For tonight's late night video theatre, I thought I dug up this old Canadian chestnut.