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How High is the Water Momma?
Author: Raine
Date: 06/19/2008 12:50:54
Good morning. Today the pResident will take a tour of the Midwest. So will the man who wants to be President. But don't worry, They won't been seen together. McCain wouldn't want you to think he is like a third term of *ush, you know.
OK, we get it Johnny, you are just LIKE *ush. I took a look at John McCain's website and saw nothing about the Flooding disaster anywhere. In the meantime the Barack Obama campaign has mobilized itself to get relief to the victims of this disaster; it is telling the stark differences between the two. Obama is doing what he promised, he is mobilizing people from the ground up to help each other. And Bush and McCain are just getting around to touring the area. To see how you can help go to Obama's Website.
Also, please visit The Red Cross. Our own 4F Family member, Velveeta Jones, is on the ground in the midwest helping out. They have a dangerously low disaster relief fund. We love her for all she does.
Speaking of assistance and disaster relief, this is something that I find highly disturbing. During his briefing to the press, pResident *ush said the following: The waters are not receding in the Mississippi river. They may have receded north, but this is not over. I am concerned about housing, considering we still have people homeless from Katrina thanks to the failed *efforts* of FEMA. Just last week, CNN reported, that FEMA gave away 85 million dollars worth of disaster relief suppies that were supposed to go to Katrina survivors. Since then some of it has been recovered, but the reality is that FEMA sat on, and then gave away to local states and counties (schools, prisons etc.) the very things people need when they lose thier homes: dinnerwear, cots, coffee makers, toilet paper,... the basics. And Now we have *ush say that we have enough money for this disaster, but not for another.
Let me ask this, do we have trailers yet? I think we are still waiting for them. FEMA doesn't have a long term disaster plan. If they did, we would not have to have the pResident to say that we 'WILL' be setting up a long term housing task force.
Now, when *ush tells us that there is enough money in the Disaster relief fund for ONLY this disaster, he is deeper in the bullshit than the silt left behind from the flooding. There is no way to tell how much this is going to cost, especially when the floodwaters are still rising. And when *ush tell congress to attach it to the upcoming supplemental, be very wary of those code words. He wants as much money as he can get, attached to the upcoming vote of the war funding. Remember also that for the federal government the fiscal year ends on September 30.
I have spent the past day or so looking for the Disaster Relief Budget numbers. I cannot find them, bu I did find this.
From FEMA's website:
And there is this information from the FY 2007:
So where is the money? *ush doesn't know. He cannot possibly know, but he sure as hell wants to tangle up the relief for Americans at home by using them as pawns to get his money for more war.
How High is the Water Momma? About as deep as the crap this administration is feeding us.
:peace: and
Raine
The debate about whether Senator John McCain is “McBush’’ continues, but on Thursday one thing will be clear: The presumptive Republican nominee and President Bush will be in Iowa touring areas hard hit by floods.
Mr. McCain’s campaign said on Wednesday that he had decided to cancel a town-hall-style meeting in Minnesota on Thursday morning and visit Columbus Junction, a city of fewer than 2,000 residents. [...]
The McCain campaign said that it was not trying to step on Mr. Bush’s trip and that the two men’s paths would not cross. “We’re not going within 30 miles of the city he’s in,’’ said Charles Black, one of Mr. McCain’s senior advisers.
OK, we get it Johnny, you are just LIKE *ush. I took a look at John McCain's website and saw nothing about the Flooding disaster anywhere. In the meantime the Barack Obama campaign has mobilized itself to get relief to the victims of this disaster; it is telling the stark differences between the two. Obama is doing what he promised, he is mobilizing people from the ground up to help each other. And Bush and McCain are just getting around to touring the area. To see how you can help go to Obama's Website.
Also, please visit The Red Cross. Our own 4F Family member, Velveeta Jones, is on the ground in the midwest helping out. They have a dangerously low disaster relief fund. We love her for all she does.
Speaking of assistance and disaster relief, this is something that I find highly disturbing. During his briefing to the press, pResident *ush said the following:
Now that the water is beginning to recede, the question is, how do we help with the recovery? And Secretary Chertoff briefed me on plans, particularly when it comes to housing. A lot of people are going to be wondering, is there short-term help for housing? And there is, and we'll provide that help.
Secondly, what's going to happen in the long term to the homes? And so Michael is going to set up a housing task force similar to the kind we set up in California for the wildfires, to work with state and local authorities to have an orderly strategy to help people get back in their homes.
I fully understand people are upset when they lose their home. A person's home is their most valued possession. And we want to work with state and local folks to have a clear strategy to help people find -- get back into a place that -- where they can live.
[...]
And finally, Director Nussle is here from the Budget Office. We've got what we called a Disaster Relief Fund. There's enough money in that fund to take care of this disaster. But what we're concerned about is future disasters this year. And therefore, we're going to work with the Congress. Jim Nussle is going to go up to work with Congress to get enough money in the upcoming supplemental to make sure that fund is -- has got enough money to deal with a potential disaster, another disaster this year.
Congress doesn't need to worry about working with the White House on this, because we think the supplemental is the way to go. What they do need to worry about is making sure that there is enough but not too much money in the fund, so we can say we have done our job.
Let me ask this, do we have trailers yet? I think we are still waiting for them. FEMA doesn't have a long term disaster plan. If they did, we would not have to have the pResident to say that we 'WILL' be setting up a long term housing task force.
Now, when *ush tells us that there is enough money in the Disaster relief fund for ONLY this disaster, he is deeper in the bullshit than the silt left behind from the flooding. There is no way to tell how much this is going to cost, especially when the floodwaters are still rising. And when *ush tell congress to attach it to the upcoming supplemental, be very wary of those code words. He wants as much money as he can get, attached to the upcoming vote of the war funding. Remember also that for the federal government the fiscal year ends on September 30.
I have spent the past day or so looking for the Disaster Relief Budget numbers. I cannot find them, bu I did find this.
From FEMA's website:
A $100 million increase for FEMA’s Vision Initiatives, including staffing increases, new technologies, and targeted investment in equipment and supplies that will support emergency management efforts across preparedness, protection, response, and recovery.
The transfer of $48 million from the Disaster Relief Fund to the Operations, Planning and Support account to convert FEMA’s Cadre of On-Call Response Employee (CORE) positions with 4-year terms into permanent full-time employees.
And there is this information from the FY 2007:
The U.S. Office of Management and Budget released their FY 2007 disaster prevention and disaster relief budget:• Pre-disaster mitigation grants total of $100 million, up $50 million from FY 2006
• $3.1 billion will go toward FEMA activities, a $363 million increase in FEMA spending from FY 2006
• An additional $1.94 billion allocated for a disaster-relief fund to cover the costs disaster response and disaster recovery contracts, a $189 million increase from FY 2006
• An additional $70 million will go toward additional disaster prevention and disaster relief contract funding
So where is the money? *ush doesn't know. He cannot possibly know, but he sure as hell wants to tangle up the relief for Americans at home by using them as pawns to get his money for more war.
How High is the Water Momma? About as deep as the crap this administration is feeding us.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
Raine on 06/19/2008 12:59:27
Raine on 06/19/2008 12:59:27
Sorry Tri! The bloggie is up and running! Thanks for covering my petard!
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:10:37
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:10:37
If only Momma would come to the blog...we'll keep her well fed and she won't have to worry about undercooked eggs..
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:14:33
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:14:33
Morning all.. 
It's a lonely day at the office today - the boss is in the Granite State and my tag team partner is at home tending to sick kids.
It's a lonely day at the office today - the boss is in the Granite State and my tag team partner is at home tending to sick kids.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:16:02
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:16:02
The Boss in in Copley Square waiting for the parade, Scoop. The big Celtics fan here in my office is "working from home" today and will be in after lunch... 
Comment by Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:18:49
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:18:49
Ahhh the parade! I heard the Mayor incoherently mumbling something about that on the radio macheen today.. :lol:
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:19:01
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:19:01
Ahem...
Rush, people in Iowa aren't whining "Where's FEMA", and "Where's Bush" because Katrina conclusively showed that they don't give a flying fuck, so the people in Iowa are smart enough not to expect any help.
Rush, people in Iowa aren't whining "Where's FEMA", and "Where's Bush" because Katrina conclusively showed that they don't give a flying fuck, so the people in Iowa are smart enough not to expect any help.
Comment by 
Random on 06/19/2008 13:19:37
Random on 06/19/2008 13:19:37
Random...is...going...to...kill...someone.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:20:57
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:20:57
Comment by Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:21:46
Random? You ok there? Want a homemade brownie?
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 13:21:46
Random? You ok there? Want a homemade brownie?
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 13:22:42
Random on 06/19/2008 13:22:42
Random can't post on the liveblog anymore...
Random is annoyed.
Random is annoyed.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 13:26:05
Raine on 06/19/2008 13:26:05
Why not Random?!?!?
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 13:26:45
Random on 06/19/2008 13:26:45
If Random knew that...
Apparently someone didn't like Random defending McCain for something...
Apparently someone didn't like Random defending McCain for something...
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 13:36:45
Raine on 06/19/2008 13:36:45
Cindy McCain attacks Michelle Obama? Uhm...
This is too tacky, even sleazy to use his wife to attack Michele when Cindy took drugs from children.
Hypocrisy, they name is McCain. Last night he actually agreed that family should be off limits. Once again, he is flip flopper.
This is too tacky, even sleazy to use his wife to attack Michele when Cindy took drugs from children.
Hypocrisy, they name is McCain. Last night he actually agreed that family should be off limits. Once again, he is flip flopper.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:37:12
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:37:12
Laura Bush is a good-looking woman???
:thud:
Laura Bush looks like if she misses a single pill, she'll shatter into a million pieces...
:thud:
Laura Bush looks like if she misses a single pill, she'll shatter into a million pieces...
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:39:33
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:39:33
Erm, that wasn't a poem, more like a limerick.
There once was a tool from Long Island.....
There once was a tool from Long Island.....
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:40:10
I had to watch the 2 AM airing . It wasn't on then.
BTW, Good morning everyone.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:40:10
Quote by TriSec:
Say, did we all see the new move on ad last night during KO?
I had to watch the 2 AM airing . It wasn't on then.
BTW, Good morning everyone.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:40:26
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:40:26
Stephku:
Momma boils an egg
Chris says it's salmonella
Jim sits back and drinks.
Momma boils an egg
Chris says it's salmonella
Jim sits back and drinks.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:41:12
Not to mention that Botox that makes her look like The Joker.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:41:12
Quote by TriSec:
Laura Bush is a good-looking woman???
:thud:
Laura Bush looks like if she misses a single pill, she'll shatter into a million pieces...
Not to mention that Botox that makes her look like The Joker.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 13:49:51
Raine on 06/19/2008 13:49:51
:rolleyes: caller... where the hell have you been?
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 13:50:11
capt on 06/19/2008 13:50:11
Good Morning 4Fers!
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 06/19/2008 13:51:56
jd_in_ny on 06/19/2008 13:51:56
If someone would solve all the problems, we wouldn't have any problems. Simple.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:51:58
livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:51:58
I think that caller Paul was on crack.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:52:59
See. Perfectly logical.
Good morning jd, how have you been?
livingonli on 06/19/2008 13:52:59
Quote by jd_in_ny:
If someone would solve all the problems, we wouldn't have any problems. Simple.
See. Perfectly logical.
Good morning jd, how have you been?
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:53:12
TriSec on 06/19/2008 13:53:12
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 13:53:29
Random on 06/19/2008 13:53:29
Why don't you give them to the people?
Has he been to a homedepot? they actually sell this stuff, those energy efficent light bulbs, solar panels.
Has he been to a homedepot? they actually sell this stuff, those energy efficent light bulbs, solar panels.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 06/19/2008 13:57:45
Shane-O on 06/19/2008 13:57:45
There once was a girl named Stephie,
On the radio she was a well-known lefty.
While pummeling the right,
She looked outta sight,
For a woman approachin the age of
On the radio she was a well-known lefty.
While pummeling the right,
She looked outta sight,
For a woman approachin the age of
Comment by jd_in_ny on 06/19/2008 13:57:49
I've been good, and busy. It's a shame when "real life" gets in the way of listening to Steph and blogging. Sigh.
jd_in_ny on 06/19/2008 13:57:49
Quote by livingonli:Quote by jd_in_ny:
If someone would solve all the problems, we wouldn't have any problems. Simple.
See. Perfectly logical.
Good morning jd, how have you been?
I've been good, and busy. It's a shame when "real life" gets in the way of listening to Steph and blogging. Sigh.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 13:59:56
JD! you are right!
So perfect, so simple so elegant!
GOOD Morning Capt! Welcome back!
Raine on 06/19/2008 13:59:56
Quote by jd_in_ny:
If someone would solve all the problems, we wouldn't have any problems. Simple.
So perfect, so simple so elegant!
GOOD Morning Capt! Welcome back!
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 14:00:41
Random on 06/19/2008 14:00:41
Hey Capt.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:01:07
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:01:07
It seems that the problem today is companies are just looking for the big profit. They don't want to try anything new or take chances by being innovative. They will just stick with the tried and true. This is why auto-makers have thought more fuel efficient cars and why oil companies don't want to invest in alternative energies.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 14:01:14
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 14:01:14
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
Excellent post Raine. As a complete non-sequitor, you may want to venture over to my blog - I blogged on a topic that really gets my goat ("pharmacists" who refuse to fill prescriptions that don't agree with their religious beliefs). I saw a story in the WaPo on Monday that described how these charlatans are planning on establishing a chain of religiously-limited drug stores. Comments welcome. Have a great day everybody.
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
Excellent post Raine. As a complete non-sequitor, you may want to venture over to my blog - I blogged on a topic that really gets my goat ("pharmacists" who refuse to fill prescriptions that don't agree with their religious beliefs). I saw a story in the WaPo on Monday that described how these charlatans are planning on establishing a chain of religiously-limited drug stores. Comments welcome. Have a great day everybody.
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:03:17
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:03:17
Good morning mfaye. How are things?
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:05:18
You know, there is another issue to this as well. Many of the innovations, inventions and solutions as it were, have had the patents bought up by big corporations that feel threatened by said solution, and then the patent is locked away in a safe, never to be seen again.
The electric car was a good example of a company actually letting the cat OUT of the bag, and then killing the cat... now they just don't let it happen at all.
So caller is wrong, the things are out there and it is more than just over regulation. it is corporatism that is preventing things from really changing.
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:05:18
Quote by TriSec:
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
The electric car was a good example of a company actually letting the cat OUT of the bag, and then killing the cat... now they just don't let it happen at all.
So caller is wrong, the things are out there and it is more than just over regulation. it is corporatism that is preventing things from really changing.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:05:37
capt on 06/19/2008 14:05:37
Problems?
~ Theodore Rubin
The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.
~ Theodore Rubin
Comment by 
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:06:03
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:06:03
morning folks... :coffee:
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 14:06:23
TriSec on 06/19/2008 14:06:23
There ya go, you said it better than I did, and me the token Libertarian in these parts!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:08:05
One thing that Whoopi pointed out yesterday is that Michelle Obama gets misquoted all the time. She said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of country..."
So if nothing else, she was proud before, but now she's REALLY proud.
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:08:05
Quote by Raine:
Cindy McCain attacks Michelle Obama? Uhm...
This is too tacky, even sleazy to use his wife to attack Michele when Cindy took drugs from children.
Hypocrisy, they name is McCain. Last night he actually agreed that family should be off limits. Once again, he is flip flopper.
One thing that Whoopi pointed out yesterday is that Michelle Obama gets misquoted all the time. She said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of country..."
So if nothing else, she was proud before, but now she's REALLY proud.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:08:43
I posted this story on the MB a few moments ago.
So let me get this straight... we still have a missing nuke warhead, a few blackhwak engines were lost adn NOW Nuke Weapon's parts are missing?!?!?
WTF!
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:08:43
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh look! More items have gone missing on Bush's watch!
So let me get this straight... we still have a missing nuke warhead, a few blackhwak engines were lost adn NOW Nuke Weapon's parts are missing?!?!?
WTF!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:09:28
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:09:28
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:10:10
:D
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:10:10
Quote by TriSec:
There ya go, you said it better than I did, and me the token Libertarian in these parts!
:D
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 14:10:29
Regulation isn't bad.
We've seen a removal of regulation on certain fields, oil, and profits shot through the roof, and proving that these people aren't worried about inovation, they want MONEY.
You need the right kind of regulation, not a removal of regulation.
Random on 06/19/2008 14:10:29
Quote by Raine:You know, there is another issue to this as well. Many of the innovations, inventions and solutions as it were, have had the patents bought up by big corporations that feel threatened by said solution, and then the patent is locked away in a safe, never to be seen again.Quote by TriSec:
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
The electric car was a good example of a company actually letting the cat OUT of the bag, and then killing the cat... now they just don't let it happen at all.
So caller is wrong, the things are out there and it is more than just over regulation. it is corporatism that is preventing things from really changing.
Regulation isn't bad.
We've seen a removal of regulation on certain fields, oil, and profits shot through the roof, and proving that these people aren't worried about inovation, they want MONEY.
You need the right kind of regulation, not a removal of regulation.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:12:12
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:12:12
OMG!!! 
I am imagining Billo with a little tiny shrunken head!!!
I am imagining Billo with a little tiny shrunken head!!!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:12:39
That may be true in some cases, but it's the lack of regulations that have created the mortgage crisis and obscene oil prices.
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:12:39
Quote by TriSec:
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
That may be true in some cases, but it's the lack of regulations that have created the mortgage crisis and obscene oil prices.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:13:55
I smell something brewing.
I think if there is an attack in the next few months we know where it comes from.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:13:55
Quote by Raine:I posted this story on the MB a few moments ago.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh look! More items have gone missing on Bush's watch!
So let me get this straight... we still have a missing nuke warhead, a few blackhwak engines were lost adn NOW Nuke Weapon's parts are missing?!?!?
WTF!
I smell something brewing.
I think if there is an attack in the next few months we know where it comes from.
Comment by 
starling310 on 06/19/2008 14:18:23
starling310 on 06/19/2008 14:18:23
Good morning everyone. :coffee:
Speaking of the attacking of Michelle Obama:
When asked, on The View why the Media "goes after spouses," Michelle gave her opinion that it is because there is a lot of "space to fill" now that the Primaries are over. Jim Webb also gave that arguement when asked about his name being floated as a possible Veep pick.
I would like to take issue with that fact. There should never be "space to fill." There is news worth reporting every single day. I would like to see the Corporate Media start reporting on issues/news of the day, rather than filling airtime with speculation and spousal criticism.
Speaking of the attacking of Michelle Obama:
Quote by Raine:
Cindy McCain attacks Michelle Obama? Uhm...
This is too tacky, even sleazy to use his wife to attack Michele when Cindy took drugs from children.
Hypocrisy, they name is McCain. Last night he actually agreed that family should be off limits. Once again, he is flip flopper.
When asked, on The View why the Media "goes after spouses," Michelle gave her opinion that it is because there is a lot of "space to fill" now that the Primaries are over. Jim Webb also gave that arguement when asked about his name being floated as a possible Veep pick.
I would like to take issue with that fact. There should never be "space to fill." There is news worth reporting every single day. I would like to see the Corporate Media start reporting on issues/news of the day, rather than filling airtime with speculation and spousal criticism.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:18:41
Keep your eye on Houston
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:18:41
Quote by livingonli:
I smell something brewing.
Keep your eye on Houston
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:20:26
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:20:26
Good morning
Wish I could throw out a morning poem like mgm could.
Wish I could throw out a morning poem like mgm could.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:21:02
no kidding. There's nothing going on anywhere on the planet?
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:21:02
Quote by starling310:
Good morning everyone. :coffee:
Speaking of the attacking of Michelle Obama:
When asked, on The View why the Media "goes after spouses," Michelle gave her opinion that it is because there is a lot of "space to fill" now that the Primaries are over. Jim Webb also gave that arguement when asked about his name being floated as a possible Veep pick.
I would like to take issue with that fact. There should never be "space to fill." There is news worth reporting every single day. I would like to see the Corporate Media start reporting on issues/news of the day, rather than filling airtime with speculation and spousal criticism.
no kidding. There's nothing going on anywhere on the planet?
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:23:50
Oh, I agree. I believe in smart regulation. I have no problems with intelligent government oversight.
The biggest problem we have right now is that we have the most ridulculous laws that give NO regulations to corporations and over regulation of human beings.
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:23:50
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:You know, there is another issue to this as well. Many of the innovations, inventions and solutions as it were, have had the patents bought up by big corporations that feel threatened by said solution, and then the patent is locked away in a safe, never to be seen again.Quote by TriSec:
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
The electric car was a good example of a company actually letting the cat OUT of the bag, and then killing the cat... now they just don't let it happen at all.
So caller is wrong, the things are out there and it is more than just over regulation. it is corporatism that is preventing things from really changing.
Regulation isn't bad.
We've seen a removal of regulation on certain fields, oil, and profits shot through the roof, and proving that these people aren't worried about inovation, they want MONEY.
You need the right kind of regulation, not a removal of regulation.
The biggest problem we have right now is that we have the most ridulculous laws that give NO regulations to corporations and over regulation of human beings.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:25:49
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:25:49
So capt, where do ya hail from?
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:27:12
capt on 06/19/2008 14:27:12
I'm in NM Albuquerque, one of the first strike targets as we store a BUNCH of nukes at Kirtland AFB as well as Sandia and Los Alamos labs.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:27:43
capt on 06/19/2008 14:27:43
Born and rasied in sunny So Cal back before it got too crowded.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 14:28:20
: vapors : my beloved MGM!
Good morning Liv.
:hug:
starling310 on 06/19/2008 14:28:20
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning
Wish I could throw out a morning poem like mgm could.
: vapors : my beloved MGM!
Good morning Liv.
:hug:
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 14:30:15
to be honest...libertarianism annoys me.
Random on 06/19/2008 14:30:15
Quote by Raine:Oh, I agree. I believe in smart regulation. I have no problems with intelligent government oversight.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:You know, there is another issue to this as well. Many of the innovations, inventions and solutions as it were, have had the patents bought up by big corporations that feel threatened by said solution, and then the patent is locked away in a safe, never to be seen again.Quote by TriSec:
I'll dispute Jim's "More Libertarian Claptrap" crack...
Maybe we could do all these things the caller wanted if we weren't strangled by regulations. A lot of the things that could be innovative or save money, or end oil dependence....are illegal or require months or years of convoluted permitting...
Anyway, I agree with Chris on this one though...we need change at the top before anything else will happen.
The electric car was a good example of a company actually letting the cat OUT of the bag, and then killing the cat... now they just don't let it happen at all.
So caller is wrong, the things are out there and it is more than just over regulation. it is corporatism that is preventing things from really changing.
Regulation isn't bad.
We've seen a removal of regulation on certain fields, oil, and profits shot through the roof, and proving that these people aren't worried about inovation, they want MONEY.
You need the right kind of regulation, not a removal of regulation.
The biggest problem we have right now is that we have the most ridulculous laws that give NO regulations to corporations and over regulation of human beings.
to be honest...libertarianism annoys me.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:32:11
For Liv:
Liv wants to poem,
like mgm could;
The question is whether he should.
he's be using his mind
and then he would find
The forest is not better than wood.
Off to the penalty box I go!
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:32:11
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning
Wish I could throw out a morning poem like mgm could.
For Liv:
Liv wants to poem,
like mgm could;
The question is whether he should.
he's be using his mind
and then he would find
The forest is not better than wood.
Off to the penalty box I go!
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:34:37
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:34:37
Hey, where's Mala this morning?
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:35:32
Man, it is stupid o'clock there! here capt <--------this is for you!
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:35:32
Quote by capt:
I'm in NM Albuquerque, one of the first strike targets as we store a BUNCH of nukes at Kirtland AFB as well as Sandia and Los Alamos labs.
<--------this is for you!
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 14:35:33
Doin' okay Livin - thanks for asking :D
BTB, I'd like to say a big 4F welcome to capt (from over at the SMS live blog) - I think you 'll find the discourse here much more enlightening and high-minded (and I mean that in both senses of the word :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 14:35:33
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning mfaye. How are things?
Doin' okay Livin - thanks for asking :D
BTB, I'd like to say a big 4F welcome to capt (from over at the SMS live blog) - I think you 'll find the discourse here much more enlightening and high-minded (and I mean that in both senses of the word :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:35:34
:lol: :tosses raintini bottle:
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:35:34
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning
Wish I could throw out a morning poem like mgm could.
For Liv:
Liv wants to poem,
like mgm could;
The question is whether he should.
he's be using his mind
and then he would find
The forest is not better than wood.
Off to the penalty box I go!
:lol: :tosses raintini bottle:
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:37:47
Oh no, I am often high but lack enlightenment.
UGH!
Thanks for all the welcomes!
capt on 06/19/2008 14:37:47
the discourse here much more enlightening and high-minded
Oh no, I am often high but lack enlightenment.
UGH!
Thanks for all the welcomes!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:39:59
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:39:59
I thought Crist was more for drilling in the mud...
Just sayin'...
I know, I know...
Just sayin'...
I know, I know...
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:40:44
Wow. Seriously, how did the auction house miss this one? Someone I suspect is in deep water.
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:40:44
Quote by BobR:
Collector buys Rembrandt self-portrait for $4.5M.
It's likely worth $20-40M... :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:42:01
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:42:01
Quote by capt:the discourse here much more enlightening and high-minded
Oh no, I am often high but lack enlightenment.
UGH!
Thanks for all the welcomes!
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:42:54
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:42:54
LEt's review for a moment regarding Rudy GOUHLiani saying that Obama has a pre 911 mindset.
2 attacks on the WTC -- BOTH under HIS WATCH!!!!!
2 attacks on the WTC -- BOTH under HIS WATCH!!!!!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 14:44:09
BobR on 06/19/2008 14:44:09
This NetFlix commercial is annoying. Everyone knows the opposite of blue is orange, not purple.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:44:21
capt on 06/19/2008 14:44:21
See, just like THAT - I am getting enlightened!
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:50:33
Actually Dinkins was mayor when the first attack happened. But it was Gouhliani's idea to put the command center in 7 WTC so he could run off and play with his mistress.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 14:50:33
Quote by Raine:
LEt's review for a moment regarding Rudy GOUHLiani saying that Obama has a pre 911 mindset.
2 attacks on the WTC -- BOTH under HIS WATCH!!!!!
Actually Dinkins was mayor when the first attack happened. But it was Gouhliani's idea to put the command center in 7 WTC so he could run off and play with his mistress.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 14:51:26
TriSec on 06/19/2008 14:51:26
Well, all I know is that before 9-11, we weren't at war, weren't in debt, didn't have 4,000 dead GIs, and gas was under $3/gallon.
Doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.
Doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 14:52:34
Raine on 06/19/2008 14:52:34
McCain plays a creepy wife stalker on SNL...
Chris Matthews: You know, he can’t read a teleprompter and he can do that? That is good stuff.
Chris Matthews: You know, he can’t read a teleprompter and he can do that? That is good stuff.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/19/2008 14:53:07
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 14:53:07
:clap: Excellent! One extremely rare copy of a game found.
Now if I could only find a sharpie to label the burned CDs!
Now if I could only find a sharpie to label the burned CDs!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 14:58:32
capt on 06/19/2008 14:58:32
Gas was $1.29 here in 2000.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:00:18
Come by and visit "Libertarian Saturday" this week...
Why would it annoy you? (although I'm an actual card-carrying member of the party and I'll admit it annoys me sometimes, too.)
Don't worry, I'm not voting that way this year, I'm also a realist. We need a freakin' Democrat in the White House, no matter what it takes.
TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:00:18
Quote by Random:
to be honest...libertarianism annoys me.
Come by and visit "Libertarian Saturday" this week...
Why would it annoy you? (although I'm an actual card-carrying member of the party and I'll admit it annoys me sometimes, too.)
Don't worry, I'm not voting that way this year, I'm also a realist. We need a freakin' Democrat in the White House, no matter what it takes.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:00:48
What colour do you need?!?! :D
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:00:48
Quote by Scoopster:
:clap: Excellent! One extremely rare copy of a game found.
Now if I could only find a sharpie to label the burned CDs!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 15:04:10
eeek!
BobR on 06/19/2008 15:04:10
Quote by Raine:
McCain plays a creepy wife stalker on SNL...
Chris Matthews: You know, he can’t read a teleprompter and he can do that? That is good stuff.
eeek!
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:04:31
I think it's because Libertarianism seems to be associated with the Ayn Rand/Grover Norquist school of thought which is just privatize everything and no regulations on corporations. Although these so-called "Libertarians" are not above supporting more oppressive laws for people (especially poor ones).
livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:04:31
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
to be honest...libertarianism annoys me.
Come by and visit "Libertarian Saturday" this week...
Why would it annoy you? (although I'm an actual card-carrying member of the party and I'll admit it annoys me sometimes, too.)
Don't worry, I'm not voting that way this year, I'm also a realist. We need a freakin' Democrat in the White House, no matter what it takes.
I think it's because Libertarianism seems to be associated with the Ayn Rand/Grover Norquist school of thought which is just privatize everything and no regulations on corporations. Although these so-called "Libertarians" are not above supporting more oppressive laws for people (especially poor ones).
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:07:51
I couldn't have said it better.
I can get with a few idea's the libertarians have but I can't swallow their whole ideology - I am too diverse to wear any simplistic label.
capt on 06/19/2008 15:07:51
Although these so-called "Libertarians" are not above supporting more oppressive laws for people (especially poor ones).
I couldn't have said it better.
I can get with a few idea's the libertarians have but I can't swallow their whole ideology - I am too diverse to wear any simplistic label.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:09:08
So, if gas in NOW 4.29, that is close to a 300% increase.
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:09:08
Quote by capt:
Gas was $1.29 here in 2000.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:11:17
capt on 06/19/2008 15:11:17
Still a little under $4 for reg - last fill up was $3.89 (I think) still about $60 (16 gallons)
Grrrrr
What kills me is the people on TV talk like the price will ever go down? Right, that'll happen when pigs fly with snowballs strapped to their back in hell.
Grrrrr
What kills me is the people on TV talk like the price will ever go down? Right, that'll happen when pigs fly with snowballs strapped to their back in hell.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:15:44
livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:15:44
Gas is $4.25 by me. I remember going through New Jersey in 1999 and paying 99 cents a gallon for gas.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:16:49
capt on 06/19/2008 15:16:49
Re FBI?
You know, of course, it was Bears Stearns that was going to handle the Social Security Privatization.
Notice the GOP have gone very quiet on that issue.
They could have had much more to steal. It is no accident and these folks are criminals.
You know, of course, it was Bears Stearns that was going to handle the Social Security Privatization.
Notice the GOP have gone very quiet on that issue.
They could have had much more to steal. It is no accident and these folks are criminals.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:23:27
TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:23:27
Well, that's just the thing about Libertarianism...it's a mighty big tent.
There's room at one end for the "drown government in a bathtub" types (which garners all the media focus, btw), but there's also room at my end of the tent for the "live and let live, do no harm" types.
It was the foreign policy aspects that initially attracted me to the party, though.
My guiding principle in all of this is unless and until something puts another person at risk, there shouldn't necessarily be a regulation or a law about it.
Which in my fuzzy bunny and chirping bird part of libland would keep consumer regulations, safety requirements and things like that while leaving most other things the hell alone, like abortion, drugs, marriage, etc...
Bobr will be the first to tell you how flawed it is, but take a look at this.
There's room at one end for the "drown government in a bathtub" types (which garners all the media focus, btw), but there's also room at my end of the tent for the "live and let live, do no harm" types.
It was the foreign policy aspects that initially attracted me to the party, though.
My guiding principle in all of this is unless and until something puts another person at risk, there shouldn't necessarily be a regulation or a law about it.
Which in my fuzzy bunny and chirping bird part of libland would keep consumer regulations, safety requirements and things like that while leaving most other things the hell alone, like abortion, drugs, marriage, etc...
Bobr will be the first to tell you how flawed it is, but take a look at this.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 15:24:30
BobR on 06/19/2008 15:24:30
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:26:23
Already happened. See October 27, 2004.
TriSec on 06/19/2008 15:26:23
Quote by capt:
when pigs fly with snowballs strapped to their back in hell.
Already happened. See October 27, 2004.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 15:26:58
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 15:26:58
Good morning, bloggers!
Where I am at in the Chicago area is fine, but the images from elsewhere in the Midwest are stunning. No one ever expected Cedar Rapids to flood as it did.
For those who might want to look, the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Where I am at in the Chicago area is fine, but the images from elsewhere in the Midwest are stunning. No one ever expected Cedar Rapids to flood as it did.
For those who might want to look, the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 15:27:16
If the oil futures speculation bubble breaks, the cost could come down. It's up to congress to try to make that happen by re-regulating the industry and/or eliminate the "enron loophole".
BobR on 06/19/2008 15:27:16
Quote by capt:
Still a little under $4 for reg - last fill up was $3.89 (I think) still about $60 (16 gallons)
Grrrrr
What kills me is the people on TV talk like the price will ever go down? Right, that'll happen when pigs fly with snowballs strapped to their back in hell.
If the oil futures speculation bubble breaks, the cost could come down. It's up to congress to try to make that happen by re-regulating the industry and/or eliminate the "enron loophole".
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:28:05
:penis:
:penis:
And yes, I have oft said, the penis has no rhythm.
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:28:05
Quote by BobR:
:penis:
:penis:And yes, I have oft said, the penis has no rhythm.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:32:04
That's why the rhythm method is an ineffective form of birth control.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 15:32:04
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:
:penis:
And yes, I have oft said, the penis has no rhythm.
That's why the rhythm method is an ineffective form of birth control.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:32:22
Liv, I hope you post this over on the Message board.
This is yet another example of how these locusts have reaped all they can from the subprime mortgage. illegally.
These are the same people who are moving into OIL now. it is all connected, and it all leads back to that Enron Loophole.
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:32:22
Quote by livingonli:
FBI arrests two former hedge fund managers.
Liv, I hope you post this over on the Message board.
This is yet another example of how these locusts have reaped all they can from the subprime mortgage. illegally.
These are the same people who are moving into OIL now. it is all connected, and it all leads back to that Enron Loophole.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:34:44
Yes, it could come downbut from what I've read it would be only about 10% so best case would be bringing $5 a gallon back to $4.50 - and that is only if . . .
capt on 06/19/2008 15:34:44
the cost could come down
Yes, it could come downbut from what I've read it would be only about 10% so best case would be bringing $5 a gallon back to $4.50 - and that is only if . . .
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:37:26
capt on 06/19/2008 15:37:26
The money these SOB's made by the subprime rip off is used by hedge funds to speculate on the oil futures. As they reap huge profit on zero risk houses are being foreclosed.
Circular and dizzying.
Circular and dizzying.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 15:38:14
That's not what you said last night :rofl:
kidding!
BobR on 06/19/2008 15:38:14
Quote by Raine:
:penis:
And yes, I have oft said, the penis has no rhythm.
That's not what you said last night :rofl:
kidding!
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 15:40:07
starling310 on 06/19/2008 15:40:07
Why is marriage so fragile? Why is it in such a precarious state? I guess the Heterosexuals have not been treating marriage very well. 
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:44:00
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:44:00
HArvey's Bristol Cream commercial:
And YES, I have MORE....
And YES, I have MORE....
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 15:44:34
capt on 06/19/2008 15:44:34
A great marriage is not when the 'perfect couple' comes together. It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.
~ Dave Meurer, "Daze of Our Wives"
~ Dave Meurer, "Daze of Our Wives"
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 15:55:59
I like what capt quoted.
Too many people are out there thinking that becasue they are married they no longer have to work on their relationships. Marriage is not a free pass.
I apologize on behalf of all hetrosexuals for their stupidity.
Raine on 06/19/2008 15:55:59
Quote by starling310:
Why is marriage so fragile? Why is it in such a precarious state? I guess the Heterosexuals have not been treating marriage very well.
Too many people are out there thinking that becasue they are married they no longer have to work on their relationships. Marriage is not a free pass.
I apologize on behalf of all hetrosexuals for their stupidity.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:05:39
Done. Cross posted on message board.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:05:39
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
FBI arrests two former hedge fund managers.
Liv, I hope you post this over on the Message board.
This is yet another example of how these locusts have reaped all they can from the subprime mortgage. illegally.
These are the same people who are moving into OIL now. it is all connected, and it all leads back to that Enron Loophole.
Done. Cross posted on message board.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/19/2008 16:06:54
Scoopster on 06/19/2008 16:06:54
A couple NWF links that are sure to provide a giggle..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57TiLje54hc
And the more serious one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vy2aJY6rq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57TiLje54hc
And the more serious one.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vy2aJY6rq8
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:12:43
capt on 06/19/2008 16:12:43
Um, I am new here so bear with me -
Cross posted on message board.
Where/what is that?
Cross posted on message board.
Where/what is that?
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:13:39
My comment is certainly not directed at the lovely heterosexual couples that I know and hold dear.
Speaking of Gay marriage, one of my future wives, Christie Harvey will be on Thom today!!
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:13:39
Quote by Raine:I like what capt quoted.Quote by starling310:
Why is marriage so fragile? Why is it in such a precarious state? I guess the Heterosexuals have not been treating marriage very well.
Too many people are out there thinking that becasue they are married they no longer have to work on their relationships. Marriage is not a free pass.
I apologize on behalf of all hetrosexuals for their stupidity.
My comment is certainly not directed at the lovely heterosexual couples that I know and hold dear.
Speaking of Gay marriage, one of my future wives, Christie Harvey will be on Thom today!!
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 16:15:05
well, the idea of lack of government, and the belief that if everyone did what they liked, the world would be a fine and dandy place.
Random on 06/19/2008 16:15:05
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
to be honest...libertarianism annoys me.
Come by and visit "Libertarian Saturday" this week...
Why would it annoy you? (although I'm an actual card-carrying member of the party and I'll admit it annoys me sometimes, too.)
Don't worry, I'm not voting that way this year, I'm also a realist. We need a freakin' Democrat in the White House, no matter what it takes.
well, the idea of lack of government, and the belief that if everyone did what they liked, the world would be a fine and dandy place.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:18:12
The 4F Message board.
Requires separate registration but you can use the same handle as on the blog.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:18:12
Quote by capt:
Um, I am new here so bear with me -
Cross posted on message board.
Where/what is that?
The 4F Message board.
Requires separate registration but you can use the same handle as on the blog.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:18:51
Hey Capt!
4 Freedoms Message Board
You can also get there by clicking the "FORUM" button at the top of this page.
:peace:
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:18:51
Quote by capt:
Um, I am new here so bear with me -
Cross posted on message board.
Where/what is that?
Hey Capt!
4 Freedoms Message Board
You can also get there by clicking the "FORUM" button at the top of this page.
:peace:
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:19:12
capt on 06/19/2008 16:19:12
Oh my, there is a TON of stuff there!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:19:55
Except that Herbert liked the boys better.
"You get your ass in there, Pewterschmidt."
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:19:55
Quote by Scoopster:
IRL version of this guy:
Except that Herbert liked the boys better.
"You get your ass in there, Pewterschmidt."
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:21:59
capt on 06/19/2008 16:21:59
Paulville
From the www.paulville.org website:
"The goal of Paulville.org it to establish gated communities containing 100% Ron Paul supporters and or People that live by the ideals of freedom and liberty.
The process is forming a co-op of people buying shares in the community and these people would be granted land use at a minimum of 1 acre per share. for as long as they homesteaded the land. The community would be privately held by the co-op to establish private property for the general community thus preserving the community is 100% freedom and liberty lovers. The community votes on all community efforts, such as utilities etc. However no one is forced to consume these utilities and or pay for them, AKA people can be off grid on there share of land. This is in line with the ideals that your free to live your life the way you want and not be forced to do or pay for other people life styles you may not agree with.
These communities are not for the faint at heard they will start as undeveloped land in non city locals, as this is the way to secure large tracts of land needed for these efforts.
However the goal is a minimal financial outlay of around $500 per share to establish this community.
If your interested and willing to attempt to literally change the world one community at a time then please Join us if your interested.
By signing up your just showing true interest in this project and under no obligation to commit to any obligations."
******
Does the idea seem perfect for some of the Randiods?
From the www.paulville.org website:
"The goal of Paulville.org it to establish gated communities containing 100% Ron Paul supporters and or People that live by the ideals of freedom and liberty.
The process is forming a co-op of people buying shares in the community and these people would be granted land use at a minimum of 1 acre per share. for as long as they homesteaded the land. The community would be privately held by the co-op to establish private property for the general community thus preserving the community is 100% freedom and liberty lovers. The community votes on all community efforts, such as utilities etc. However no one is forced to consume these utilities and or pay for them, AKA people can be off grid on there share of land. This is in line with the ideals that your free to live your life the way you want and not be forced to do or pay for other people life styles you may not agree with.
These communities are not for the faint at heard they will start as undeveloped land in non city locals, as this is the way to secure large tracts of land needed for these efforts.
However the goal is a minimal financial outlay of around $500 per share to establish this community.
If your interested and willing to attempt to literally change the world one community at a time then please Join us if your interested.
By signing up your just showing true interest in this project and under no obligation to commit to any obligations."
******
Does the idea seem perfect for some of the Randiods?
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:24:53
Please feel as free as you want to post new threads as well as adding to those already there.
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:24:53
Quote by capt:
Oh my, there is a TON of stuff there!
Thanks!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 16:25:33
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 16:25:33
I have to go and do some work around the house for a few hours. (I love mowing - NOT, but it has to be done.)
Here are a few thoughts.
In any movement to create lasting change, there are often going to be very diverse groups involved. Such was the case in the New Deal coalition, the Civil Rights Movement, and the groups protesting against the Vietnam War.
I may pretty much disagree with everything Pat Buchanan says, seeing him as an apologist for power hungry tyrants, a 15th rate historian on a good day, and a man who always assumes the worst of others but takes umbrage when others do the same for him. Yet, I will agree tht he does have a case for his opposition to the war in Iraq.
I am not a Libertarian, but I do agree that the personal and private activities of consenting adults should be their affair - so long as no one is harmed and that the activities are consensual.
Let's remember, what unites us as human beings is ultimately more powerful than what divides us. Let us also remember the words of the man I consider the wisest of our Founding Fathers, a man who helped start the abolition movement in the United States, Benjamin Franklin during the early days of this Republic:
"We must all hang together, or we shall most assuredly all hang separtely."
I think many of our Founding Fathers would be pleased at much of what we have achieved, but alarmed about other things such as the extent of corporate power and the treatment of habeas corpus. Let's remember that even despite the vast divides among the Founding Fathers, they were able to come up with wonderful documents called the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. They also had the wisdom to put in means to amend the Constitution, realizing that conditions can change and that people will come together to stand on issues of concern to them. In these troubling time, let us take counsel with each other and try to stand together when we can.
Here are a few thoughts.
In any movement to create lasting change, there are often going to be very diverse groups involved. Such was the case in the New Deal coalition, the Civil Rights Movement, and the groups protesting against the Vietnam War.
I may pretty much disagree with everything Pat Buchanan says, seeing him as an apologist for power hungry tyrants, a 15th rate historian on a good day, and a man who always assumes the worst of others but takes umbrage when others do the same for him. Yet, I will agree tht he does have a case for his opposition to the war in Iraq.
I am not a Libertarian, but I do agree that the personal and private activities of consenting adults should be their affair - so long as no one is harmed and that the activities are consensual.
Let's remember, what unites us as human beings is ultimately more powerful than what divides us. Let us also remember the words of the man I consider the wisest of our Founding Fathers, a man who helped start the abolition movement in the United States, Benjamin Franklin during the early days of this Republic:
"We must all hang together, or we shall most assuredly all hang separtely."
I think many of our Founding Fathers would be pleased at much of what we have achieved, but alarmed about other things such as the extent of corporate power and the treatment of habeas corpus. Let's remember that even despite the vast divides among the Founding Fathers, they were able to come up with wonderful documents called the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. They also had the wisdom to put in means to amend the Constitution, realizing that conditions can change and that people will come together to stand on issues of concern to them. In these troubling time, let us take counsel with each other and try to stand together when we can.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:26:09
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:26:09
Anyone listening to Thom?
He is discussing the Op-Ed from HuffPost that states McCain will not be the Republican Nominee come mid-August.
He is discussing the Op-Ed from HuffPost that states McCain will not be the Republican Nominee come mid-August.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:27:30
I knew that :star:ling darling. I still have some hetro guilt!
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:27:30
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I like what capt quoted.Quote by starling310:
Why is marriage so fragile? Why is it in such a precarious state? I guess the Heterosexuals have not been treating marriage very well.
Too many people are out there thinking that becasue they are married they no longer have to work on their relationships. Marriage is not a free pass.
I apologize on behalf of all hetrosexuals for their stupidity.
My comment is certainly not directed at the lovely heterosexual couples that I know and hold dear.
Speaking of Gay marriage, one of my future wives, Christie Harvey will be on Thom today!!
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:30:13
Pshaw!
No open-minded Hetero deserves to bear the weight of guilt for any 1 bigot!
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:30:13
Quote by Raine:I knew that :star:ling darling. I still have some hetro guilt!Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I like what capt quoted.Quote by starling310:
Why is marriage so fragile? Why is it in such a precarious state? I guess the Heterosexuals have not been treating marriage very well.
Too many people are out there thinking that becasue they are married they no longer have to work on their relationships. Marriage is not a free pass.
I apologize on behalf of all hetrosexuals for their stupidity.
My comment is certainly not directed at the lovely heterosexual couples that I know and hold dear.
Speaking of Gay marriage, one of my future wives, Christie Harvey will be on Thom today!!
Pshaw!
No open-minded Hetero deserves to bear the weight of guilt for any 1 bigot!
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:34:06
:foil:
I had been wondering this myself for a while. HE does not look well, and he is really not making sense on the campaign . I seriously mean that. he doesn't seem to be able to recall what he said a few weeks ago, compared to what he is saying today. When he says he doesn't remember, I almost believe him.
It isn't JUST the man's age, it is the state of his mind and body. He is not healthy.
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:34:06
Quote by starling310:
Anyone listening to Thom?
He is discussing the Op-Ed from HuffPost that states McCain will not be the Republican Nominee come mid-August.
I had been wondering this myself for a while. HE does not look well, and he is really not making sense on the campaign . I seriously mean that. he doesn't seem to be able to recall what he said a few weeks ago, compared to what he is saying today. When he says he doesn't remember, I almost believe him.
It isn't JUST the man's age, it is the state of his mind and body. He is not healthy.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:37:24
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:37:24
Shameless plug time for les blog: please don't be afraid to spread the love, and digg this baby! 
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:37:59
When McCain Drops Out
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:37:59
Quote by Raine::foil:Quote by starling310:
Anyone listening to Thom?
He is discussing the Op-Ed from HuffPost that states McCain will not be the Republican Nominee come mid-August.
I had been wondering this myself for a while. HE does not look well, and he is really not making sense on the campaign . I seriously mean that. he doesn't seem to be able to recall what he said a few weeks ago, compared to what he is saying today. When he says he doesn't remember, I almost believe him.
It isn't JUST the man's age, it is the state of his mind and body. He is not healthy.
When McCain Drops Out
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 16:38:41
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 16:38:41
Hi capt
You know me from SMS as Paul Langhorne Hussein, but I use trojanrabbit at the other forums I frequent.
You know me from SMS as Paul Langhorne Hussein, but I use trojanrabbit at the other forums I frequent.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 16:38:44
Add to that: Over 400 arrested for mortgage fraud
BobR on 06/19/2008 16:38:44
Quote by livingonli:
FBI arrests two former hedge fund managers.
Add to that: Over 400 arrested for mortgage fraud
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:39:10
capt on 06/19/2008 16:39:10
What would happen if a nominee had to drop out for health reasons or worse?
It could get weird but I think Barack will do well no matter who he is against.
I expect the GOP will get crazy - that is what they do.
It could get weird but I think Barack will do well no matter who he is against.
I expect the GOP will get crazy - that is what they do.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:42:21
capt on 06/19/2008 16:42:21
Cool, Trojanrabbit!
So much new stuff - Lots for me to learn. Everybody feel free to train me as necessary. I am eager but have to be on and off the computer (UGH) - so I might seem slow to reply or chip in.
So much new stuff - Lots for me to learn. Everybody feel free to train me as necessary. I am eager but have to be on and off the computer (UGH) - so I might seem slow to reply or chip in.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 16:45:24
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 16:45:24
:wacko: Insomnia day 3 :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:45:34
I'm beginning to think that he's starting to develop Alzheimer's. The only way they can pitch that is by reminding people that Reagan was senile during most of his second term.
It seems like if not McCain, any other candidate will probably be another wingnut who would also be campaigning on continuing Bush's policies. And there could very well be a split by people going to Ron Paul/Bob Barr.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:45:34
Quote by Raine::foil:Quote by starling310:
Anyone listening to Thom?
He is discussing the Op-Ed from HuffPost that states McCain will not be the Republican Nominee come mid-August.
I had been wondering this myself for a while. HE does not look well, and he is really not making sense on the campaign . I seriously mean that. he doesn't seem to be able to recall what he said a few weeks ago, compared to what he is saying today. When he says he doesn't remember, I almost believe him.
It isn't JUST the man's age, it is the state of his mind and body. He is not healthy.
I'm beginning to think that he's starting to develop Alzheimer's. The only way they can pitch that is by reminding people that Reagan was senile during most of his second term.
It seems like if not McCain, any other candidate will probably be another wingnut who would also be campaigning on continuing Bush's policies. And there could very well be a split by people going to Ron Paul/Bob Barr.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:45:59
On the job training!
I am not a moderator here and I hope they will forgive me for speaking out of turn, but if I had to "teach" you one thing. . . it would be that we like to have a "safe space." We treat each other with respect. We have had disagreements, but always do it without personal attacks.
Except for Random. . . feel free to pick on him!!!
I KEED random! I KEEEED!!!
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:45:59
Quote by capt:
Cool, Trojanrabbit!
So much new stuff - Lots for me to learn. Everybody feel free to train me as necessary. I am eager but have to be on and off the computer (UGH) - so I might seem slow to reply or chip in.
On the job training!
I am not a moderator here and I hope they will forgive me for speaking out of turn, but if I had to "teach" you one thing. . . it would be that we like to have a "safe space." We treat each other with respect. We have had disagreements, but always do it without personal attacks.
Except for Random. . . feel free to pick on him!!!
I KEED random! I KEEEED!!!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:46:02
capt on 06/19/2008 16:46:02
Obama's First General Election Ad: "Country I Love" (VIDEO)
Have ya seen this one? Looks like a pretty good ad.
Have ya seen this one? Looks like a pretty good ad.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:46:17
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:46:17
Poor Mondo. You might need some sleep medicine.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:47:32
livingonli on 06/19/2008 16:47:32
:star: Watch out. Random's got the smite button.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:49:23
Since MARCH???
Hmmm... I love the person who wrote this article btw...
So let me get this right, the arrests have been made, which is good, but the deregulation that let to rampant fraud to happen has not been closed?
The rules are too fuzzy, too easy to commit fraud. I suspect a few -- MORE than a few of these people will flip and basically say that it was the government regulations that allowed them to do this.
Call me jaded. But arresting this many people ALL of a sudden says a lot to me. and that is that someone was looking away. In the meantime, how many people lost a house that they will NEVER get back?
The civil lawsuits themselves will run into the hundreds of millions of dollars
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:49:23
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
FBI arrests two former hedge fund managers.
Add to that: Over 400 arrested for mortgage fraud
Hmmm... I love the person who wrote this article btw...
So let me get this right, the arrests have been made, which is good, but the deregulation that let to rampant fraud to happen has not been closed?
The rules are too fuzzy, too easy to commit fraud. I suspect a few -- MORE than a few of these people will flip and basically say that it was the government regulations that allowed them to do this.
Call me jaded. But arresting this many people ALL of a sudden says a lot to me. and that is that someone was looking away. In the meantime, how many people lost a house that they will NEVER get back?
The civil lawsuits themselves will run into the hundreds of millions of dollars
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:49:59
capt on 06/19/2008 16:49:59
I am very proud of my ability to always stay respectful, well mannered and speak softly even on hard subjects. I always try to elevate and always hope to check myself before I wreck myself.
It even works once in a while!
It even works once in a while!
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:50:36
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:50:36
Quote by livingonli:
:star: Watch out. Random's got the smite button.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 16:50:59
Raine on 06/19/2008 16:50:59
oh...
HELLO STAN!!!
HELLO STAN!!!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:54:33
capt on 06/19/2008 16:54:33
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:56:09
Smells a bit like Trolls to me. Hit and Runners during the Primaries and then *poof* gone.
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:56:09
Quote by capt:
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
Smells a bit like Trolls to me. Hit and Runners during the Primaries and then *poof* gone.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:58:47
starling310 on 06/19/2008 16:58:47
Yaron Brook coming up. 
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 16:59:40
capt on 06/19/2008 16:59:40
BREAKING! FISA "deal" reached in House
Pitchforks and Torches anyone?
Grrrrr - I HATE politics in general they always do such dumb stuff. I can't wrap my head around immunity. This is just plain crazy talk.
Pitchforks and Torches anyone?
Grrrrr - I HATE politics in general they always do such dumb stuff. I can't wrap my head around immunity. This is just plain crazy talk.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:00:35
We all do, in our mind...
Random... I love ya, ya mook!
:star: is on point, in more ways than she realizes. This blog is a cooperative operation. It belongs to everyone. We have emoticons and sound effects and polls, anyone who wants to can simply say that they want to be a blog writer. Speaking of which we need a new poll dammit!
All we ask is that Tuesdays are left for our loyal TriSec, who does 'Ask a Vet'.
We have a semi set schedule for morning (opening Blogs)
Mon & Thursday: Raine
Tuesday and Saturday: TriSec
Wednesday and Friday: BobR
Sunday: Velveeta Jones (and in her absence it will be M-faye, until Velveeta returns from being a Red Cross Volunteer in the midwest)
Anytime someone wants, they can either open the morning by just asking, I am always willing to let someone else use my spot, or if they want they can open up a blog after the SMS show.
if you want to have the ability to post blogs. just clickity on the contact staff button.
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:00:35
Quote by livingonli:
:star: Watch out. Random's got the smite button.
We all do, in our mind...
Random... I love ya, ya mook!
:star: is on point, in more ways than she realizes. This blog is a cooperative operation. It belongs to everyone. We have emoticons and sound effects and polls, anyone who wants to can simply say that they want to be a blog writer. Speaking of which we need a new poll dammit!
All we ask is that Tuesdays are left for our loyal TriSec, who does 'Ask a Vet'.
We have a semi set schedule for morning (opening Blogs)
Mon & Thursday: Raine
Tuesday and Saturday: TriSec
Wednesday and Friday: BobR
Sunday: Velveeta Jones (and in her absence it will be M-faye, until Velveeta returns from being a Red Cross Volunteer in the midwest)
Anytime someone wants, they can either open the morning by just asking, I am always willing to let someone else use my spot, or if they want they can open up a blog after the SMS show.
if you want to have the ability to post blogs. just clickity on the contact staff button.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:04:36
Who said anything about manners?
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:04:36
Quote by capt:
I am very proud of my ability to always stay respectful, well mannered and speak softly even on hard subjects. I always try to elevate and always hope to check myself before I wreck myself.
It even works once in a while!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:05:36
capt on 06/19/2008 17:05:36
Too cool for school.
I have to take my time, though. Slow is my top speed these days.
I have to take my time, though. Slow is my top speed these days.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:06:01
Hi. I'm Madonna.
starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:06:01
Quote by Raine:Who said anything about manners?Quote by capt:
I am very proud of my ability to always stay respectful, well mannered and speak softly even on hard subjects. I always try to elevate and always hope to check myself before I wreck myself.
It even works once in a while!
Hi. I'm Madonna.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:06:08
They are still campaining for McCain. :sarcasm:
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:06:08
Quote by capt:
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 17:07:07
DRII and the other Hillary "supporters" (for want of a better name to call them) are gone, but will probably show up again if Obama stumbles. I'm sure they'll reappear as we get close to the convention.
Seems the noise quotient at SMS increased the closer we got to the end of the primary season, and it died out when Hillary "conceded". Only one who seems to have stuck around is Clay, and he seems to truly want the party to unify.
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 17:07:07
Quote by capt:
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
DRII and the other Hillary "supporters" (for want of a better name to call them) are gone, but will probably show up again if Obama stumbles. I'm sure they'll reappear as we get close to the convention.
Seems the noise quotient at SMS increased the closer we got to the end of the primary season, and it died out when Hillary "conceded". Only one who seems to have stuck around is Clay, and he seems to truly want the party to unify.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 17:09:41
livingonli on 06/19/2008 17:09:41
Quote by Raine:Who said anything about manners?Quote by capt:
I am very proud of my ability to always stay respectful, well mannered and speak softly even on hard subjects. I always try to elevate and always hope to check myself before I wreck myself.
It even works once in a while!
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 17:11:38
TriSec on 06/19/2008 17:11:38
Sergeant at Arms, please remove the representative from Connecticut from the chamber; she's out of order!
:modbat:
:modbat:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 17:13:36
Mondo,
You might want to ask your doctor about Klonopin (I know I sound like one of those awful TV commercials that are always hawking one medication or the other "ask your doctor about xyz?"). I've been dealing with terrible insomnia for the last several years and was taking Xanax until I feared that I'd get hooked on the stuff (and I saw what it did to my drug-addicted short-term roommate
) and now I'm taking Klonopin and it definitely helps (short-term), but it beats not sleeping. Take care :heart:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 17:13:36
Quote by Mondobubba:
:wacko: Insomnia day 3 :thud:
Mondo,
You might want to ask your doctor about Klonopin (I know I sound like one of those awful TV commercials that are always hawking one medication or the other "ask your doctor about xyz?"). I've been dealing with terrible insomnia for the last several years and was taking Xanax until I feared that I'd get hooked on the stuff (and I saw what it did to my drug-addicted short-term roommate
) and now I'm taking Klonopin and it definitely helps (short-term), but it beats not sleeping. Take care :heart:Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:13:47
:: sticks arms and legs out to avoid fitting through the door ::
starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:13:47
Quote by TriSec:
Sergeant at Arms, please remove the representative from Connecticut from the chamber; she's out of order!
:modbat:
:: sticks arms and legs out to avoid fitting through the door ::
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 17:14:56
Correction. Random has a smote button.
Because it annoys Mondo so.
I'm a benevolent god though. I do not mind the teasing.
Random on 06/19/2008 17:14:56
Quote by starling310:Quote by livingonli:
:star: Watch out. Random's got the smite button.
Correction. Random has a smote button.
Because it annoys Mondo so.
I'm a benevolent god though. I do not mind the teasing.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:15:21
starling310 on 06/19/2008 17:15:21
Hey Yaron. . . how about if the Government would pay to fix your speech impediment?!?!?
:: skates to penalty box ::
------> Sargent at Arms
:: skates to penalty box ::
------> Sargent at Arms
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:16:42
capt on 06/19/2008 17:16:42
Mondobubba
Have you had a sleep study?
Have you had a sleep study?
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:18:35
That is really good to hear , regarding Clay. Truthfully.
Yaron is just so wrong it stuns me. Sorry, These are the guys who give libertarianism a bad name.
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:18:35
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by capt:
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
DRII and the other Hillary "supporters" (for want of a better name to call them) are gone, but will probably show up again if Obama stumbles. I'm sure they'll reappear as we get close to the convention.
Seems the noise quotient at SMS increased the closer we got to the end of the primary season, and it died out when Hillary "conceded". Only one who seems to have stuck around is Clay, and he seems to truly want the party to unify.
Yaron is just so wrong it stuns me. Sorry, These are the guys who give libertarianism a bad name.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 17:21:56
Donnie (DRII) always seemed to be around forever. I certainly remember him calling in to the show for awhile. That aside, who needs DRII when you've got plenty of people to imitate him and mock him.
Random on 06/19/2008 17:21:56
Quote by capt:
So wadda ya all think has happened to the DRII's and others on the liveblog?
It seems odd they just fade away but I am also fairly new to the SMS blog - were they always there?
Donnie (DRII) always seemed to be around forever. I certainly remember him calling in to the show for awhile. That aside, who needs DRII when you've got plenty of people to imitate him and mock him.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:22:37
:rofl:
Let her stay! Let her stay!
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:22:37
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Sergeant at Arms, please remove the representative from Connecticut from the chamber; she's out of order!
:modbat:
:: sticks arms and legs out to avoid fitting through the door ::
Let her stay! Let her stay!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:24:54
Oh, I don't miss those posts and enjoy the mocking more.
I basically just ignore the trolls and negative posts, who needs them when funny is the new serious!
capt on 06/19/2008 17:24:54
That aside, who needs DRII when you've got plenty of people to imitate him and mock him.
Oh, I don't miss those posts and enjoy the mocking more.
I basically just ignore the trolls and negative posts, who needs them when funny is the new serious!
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 17:26:42
I personally have fun mocking DRII. He's so easily mocked.
Random on 06/19/2008 17:26:42
Quote by capt:That aside, who needs DRII when you've got plenty of people to imitate him and mock him.
Oh, I don't miss those posts and enjoy the mocking more.
I basically just ignore the trolls and negative posts, who needs them when funny is the new serious!
I personally have fun mocking DRII. He's so easily mocked.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:27:43
capt on 06/19/2008 17:27:43
Yes, very mockable, or is it mockiblly?
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 17:30:07
Random on 06/19/2008 17:30:07
which reminds me.
If i ever get to post on SMS live blog again, I'm going to have to refine my DRII act.
If i ever get to post on SMS live blog again, I'm going to have to refine my DRII act.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:30:56
capt on 06/19/2008 17:30:56
I dunno, it had me fooled - FWIW
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:31:06
Time to make some phone calls and send some emails!!! SERIOUSLY! the change needs to happen and unless congress hears from individuals nothing can ever happen. This is NOT a done deal.
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:31:06
Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 17:34:20
:goes limp in solidarity with : THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! ATTICA! ATTICA!
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 17:34:20
Quote by Raine::rofl:Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Sergeant at Arms, please remove the representative from Connecticut from the chamber; she's out of order!
:modbat:
:: sticks arms and legs out to avoid fitting through the door ::
Let her stay! Let her stay!
:goes limp in solidarity with
: THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! ATTICA! ATTICA!
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:37:42
Mockibilly?
IS that when Monster Rock meets Hillbilly?
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:37:42
Quote by capt:
Yes, very mockable, or is it mockiblly?
Mockibilly?
IS that when Monster Rock meets Hillbilly?
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:41:12
I am not sure, I think I did worse than misspell. It sounded funny in my head but almost everything does.
capt on 06/19/2008 17:41:12
IS that when Monster Rock meets Hillbilly?
I am not sure, I think I did worse than misspell. It sounded funny in my head but almost everything does.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 17:42:01
capt on 06/19/2008 17:42:01
I picked a bad week to quit thorazine . . .
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:44:24
Raine goes limp as well. ATTICA! ATTICA!
As an aside... here is yet another site you can use to contact congress:
Call YOUR Rep! Call someone elses Rep! just friggin CALL!
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:44:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine::rofl:Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Sergeant at Arms, please remove the representative from Connecticut from the chamber; she's out of order!
:modbat:
:: sticks arms and legs out to avoid fitting through the door ::
Let her stay! Let her stay!
:goes limp in solidarity with
Raine goes limp as well. ATTICA! ATTICA!
As an aside... here is yet another site you can use to contact congress:
Call YOUR Rep! Call someone elses Rep! just friggin CALL!
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 17:48:19
IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 17:48:19
Good morning all! Well, I guess it is afternoon for most.
Did anyone see Chris Matthews on MSNBC after the Russert funeral? Wow! I'm not sure if he forgot to take his meds or if he was hitting the highballs, but he was saying some really crazy, inappropriate things to his guests. Goofy beyond belief and seemed totally out of it.
Oh, and yous wants some manners? I gots your manners right here.
Did anyone see Chris Matthews on MSNBC after the Russert funeral? Wow! I'm not sure if he forgot to take his meds or if he was hitting the highballs, but he was saying some really crazy, inappropriate things to his guests. Goofy beyond belief and seemed totally out of it.
Oh, and yous wants some manners? I gots your manners right here.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:49:26
WEll I personally LOVE Mockibilly! it works for me. I sorta thought you meant Mockibility, and I, the queen of typos, appreciate things such as this.
Mockabilly!
:boobs2:
:boobs2:
:hug:
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:49:26
Quote by capt:IS that when Monster Rock meets Hillbilly?
I am not sure, I think I did worse than misspell. It sounded funny in my head but almost everything does.
it works for me. I sorta thought you meant Mockibility, and I, the queen of typos, appreciate things such as this. :boobs2:
:boobs2::hug:
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:52:09
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:52:09
Heya Izzy!
Yeah, Chris was kinda losing it. I think he doesn't do so well with grief. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I was wondering if he should have gone on air. I would not fault him for it, they were good friends.
Yeah, Chris was kinda losing it. I think he doesn't do so well with grief. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I was wondering if he should have gone on air. I would not fault him for it, they were good friends.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 17:57:44
TriSec on 06/19/2008 17:57:44
Now Playing: :prince:
Got all my stuff from His Royal Badness in the ol' iPod on 'shuffle' today.
:dance:
Got all my stuff from His Royal Badness in the ol' iPod on 'shuffle' today.
:dance:
Comment by MMB on 06/19/2008 17:58:08
MMB on 06/19/2008 17:58:08
I wanted to say that Klonopin is much more addictive than Xanax. Klonopin is a longer acting drug. This is from my nurse info not my "Junkie" days as reported by people that do not know what is going on. Insomnia is a very kinda kharma thing in some cases. Have a great day.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 17:59:23
IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 17:59:23
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 17:59:58
omg... I am so glad I do not have to order "husband and wife's lung slice." :rofl:
Raine on 06/19/2008 17:59:58
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mmmmm thats good chicken without sexual life! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:09:56
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:09:56
Did I miss Christie Harvey!?!?
I had to take my head phones off for a bit.
I had to take my head phones off for a bit.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:09:57
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:09:57
Did I miss Christie Harvey!?!?
I had to take my head phones off for a bit.
I had to take my head phones off for a bit.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:11
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:11
Did I just double post?
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:11
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:11
Did I just double post?
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:19
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:10:19
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 18:10:43
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 18:10:43
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:12:44
When Izzy gets Pizzy.
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:12:44
Quote by livingonli:Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
When Izzy gets Pizzy.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:13:01
I supppose, but it was very uncomfortable.
Mockabilly! This could be an extremely large music catalog!
How's our favorite little beagle doing?
IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:13:01
Quote by Raine:
Heya Izzy!
Yeah, Chris was kinda losing it. I think he doesn't do so well with grief. Not that theare is anything wrong with that, I was wondering if he should have gone on air. I would not fault him for it, they were good friends.
I supppose, but it was very uncomfortable.
Mockabilly!
This could be an extremely large music catalog!How's our favorite little beagle doing?
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:13:12
MMB,
Huuummm, that is something that my doctor did not mention to me. Thanks for the inside info (although I gotta wonder why it is inside info?) Thanks again.
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:13:12
Quote by MMB:
I wanted to say that Klonopin is much more addictive than Xanax. Klonopin is a longer acting drug. This is from my nurse info not my "Junkie" days as reported by people that do not know what is going on. Insomnia is a very kinda kharma thing in some cases. Have a great day.
MMB,
Huuummm, that is something that my doctor did not mention to me. Thanks for the inside info (although I gotta wonder why it is inside info?) Thanks again.
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 18:16:33
I am off to take Kizzy for a walk and then to make phone calls. Be back in a little wile. (altho I will be popping in and out between phone calls)
:hug: and :heart:
Raine on 06/19/2008 18:16:33
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
:hug: and :heart:
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:24:07
The rotary dial on my 40s style phone will be steaming by the end of the day. One more cup of Joe and I should be primed for battle.
IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:24:07
Quote by livingonli:Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
The rotary dial on my 40s style phone will be steaming by the end of the day. One more cup of Joe and I should be primed for battle.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:31:03
Hi Star!
IzzyBitz on 06/19/2008 18:31:03
Quote by starling310:Quote by livingonli:Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
When Izzy gets Pizzy.
Hi Star!
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 18:41:11
TriSec on 06/19/2008 18:41:11
oh, BTW....the Celtics' parade was today.
Unlike some other cities, we managed to avoid any "unpleasantness". Between the victory the other night and the parade today, there were less than 30 arrests, mostly for disorderly conduct. (re: drinking in public).
:peace:
Unlike some other cities, we managed to avoid any "unpleasantness". Between the victory the other night and the parade today, there were less than 30 arrests, mostly for disorderly conduct. (re: drinking in public).
:peace:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:43:11
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:43:11
Christie Harvey on Thomm Hartmann right now - wow :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:50:27
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 18:50:27
I'm downloading the report right now (Physicians for Human Rights - Broken Lives Broken Laws). I'll let you all know what I think...you are all wating with baited breath, right ? :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:56:44
:thud:
I missed it. And, I LOVE HER!
Her laugh makes my life complete.
starling310 on 06/19/2008 18:56:44
Quote by m-hadley:
Christie Harvey on Thomm Hartmann right now - wow :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:thud:
I missed it. And, I LOVE HER!
Her laugh makes my life complete.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 19:01:47
What do you mean by "as reported by people that do not know what is going on"? Has someone reported sensitive personal information about you here on the blog? That is definitely a no-no and should definitely be reported to the Admins, just like personal attacks.
Please let us know when/if this occurred...
BobR on 06/19/2008 19:01:47
Quote by MMB:
I wanted to say that Klonopin is much more addictive than Xanax. Klonopin is a longer acting drug. This is from my nurse info not my "Junkie" days as reported by people that do not know what is going on. Insomnia is a very kinda kharma thing in some cases. Have a great day.
What do you mean by "as reported by people that do not know what is going on"? Has someone reported sensitive personal information about you here on the blog? That is definitely a no-no and should definitely be reported to the Admins, just like personal attacks.
Please let us know when/if this occurred...
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 19:04:58
BobR on 06/19/2008 19:04:58
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:12:15
:hug: Sounds like that kind of day. I oughta know, I have too many of them myself.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:12:15
Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Christie Harvey on Thomm Hartmann right now - wow :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:thud:
I missed it. And, I LOVE HER!
Her laugh makes my life complete.
:hug: Sounds like that kind of day. I oughta know, I have too many of them myself.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 19:13:49
it ain't like Kizzy in hizzy...
:yawn: <---- Kizzy in the Hizzy
She is doing great btw. She barked again (second time) last night. bobr got to hear it this time!
And then she went into a gully and got stuck... silly dog.
Raine on 06/19/2008 19:13:49
Quote by starling310:Quote by livingonli:Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Scoopster:
House reaches "deal" to give away our privacy rights
My day just got very busy.
They better watch out when Izzy gets pissed.
When Izzy gets Pizzy.
:yawn: <---- Kizzy in the Hizzy
She is doing great btw. She barked again (second time) last night. bobr got to hear it this time!
And then she went into a gully and got stuck... silly dog.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:15:07
I guess that's part of why global terrorism has gone up since 9/11, not down as the Bush officials would want you to believe.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:15:07
Quote by BobR:
Gitmo turning ordinary criminals into militant al Qaeda
Great job there guys....:boom:
I guess that's part of why global terrorism has gone up since 9/11, not down as the Bush officials would want you to believe.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 19:15:27
Star,
I twas trying to give yous a heads up, Roomie. But I will gladly give you a report on the report that she was talking about (the aforementioned Physicians for Human Rights report).
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 19:15:27
Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Christie Harvey on Thomm Hartmann right now - wow :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:thud:
I missed it. And, I LOVE HER!
Her laugh makes my life complete.
Star,
I twas trying to give yous a heads up, Roomie. But I will gladly give you a report on the report that she was talking about (the aforementioned Physicians for Human Rights report).
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 06/19/2008 19:21:49
I know! And, I appreciate it, but I was away from the TV with the Typewriter attached to it!
IT WON'T BE THE SAME! I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR HER VOICE!!! WWWWAAAAHHHH!!!
:: tantrum ::
starling310 on 06/19/2008 19:21:49
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Christie Harvey on Thomm Hartmann right now - wow :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:thud:
I missed it. And, I LOVE HER!
Her laugh makes my life complete.
Star,
I twas trying to give yous a heads up, Roomie. But I will gladly give you a report on the report that she was talking about (the aforementioned Physicians for Human Rights report).
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
I know! And, I appreciate it, but I was away from the TV with the Typewriter attached to it!
IT WON'T BE THE SAME! I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR HER VOICE!!! WWWWAAAAHHHH!!!
:: tantrum ::
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:35:47
livingonli on 06/19/2008 19:35:47
Me so sleepy. 
But I do have to go to the salt mine.
But I do have to go to the salt mine.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 20:00:47
KIZZY!!!!
She does NOT like her picture being taken!
But she is so damn huggable it is amazing!
Raine on 06/19/2008 20:00:47
She does NOT like her picture being taken!
But she is so damn huggable it is amazing!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 20:02:49
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 20:02:49
I was gonna post a like to this website called whosyourcity.com, but the listeners to Talk of the Nation have brought it to it's knees. It basically helps you make decision about what city is right for you.
It basically helps you make decision about what city is right for you.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 20:07:10
I love the side long glance in the first picture. :rofl:
"You ralkin' to me? You must be talkin' to me, I'm the only one here."
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 20:07:10
Quote by Raine:KIZZY!!!!
She does NOT like her picture being taken!
But she is so damn huggable it is amazing!
I love the side long glance in the first picture. :rofl:
"You ralkin' to me? You must be talkin' to me, I'm the only one here."
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 20:17:14
Raine on 06/19/2008 20:17:14
Sorry for the really 'uge (Donald Trump: it's 'uge!!! ) picture.
She cracks me up that pup.
Now Camille on the other hand... Not so amused.
*sigh* We bring home a stoner dog, and she is still uptite. I swear, she is a repussican.
She cracks me up that pup.
Now Camille on the other hand... Not so amused.
*sigh* We bring home a stoner dog, and she is still uptite. I swear, she is a repussican.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 20:24:06
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 20:24:06
Kizzy is a-door-a-bell :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Woof woof from her cuzes Tulsey & Dylan
Cheers,
mfaye
Woof woof from her cuzes Tulsey & Dylan
:peace:
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 20:24:44
STOP> HAMMERTIME...
When has the Bush Administration EVER declared that global terrorism is down? EVER?
They have not. They just use propaganda, and mind games to make it look like they are saying that.. They have NEVER said that. I will give this administration credit, they know how to twist people into not thinking critically for themselves.
They make people sheep.
Raine on 06/19/2008 20:24:44
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:
Gitmo turning ordinary criminals into militant al Qaeda
Great job there guys....
I guess that's part of why global terrorism has gone up since 9/11, not down as the Bush officials would want you to believe.
When has the Bush Administration EVER declared that global terrorism is down? EVER?
They have not. They just use propaganda, and mind games to make it look like they are saying that.. They have NEVER said that. I will give this administration credit, they know how to twist people into not thinking critically for themselves.
They make people sheep.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 20:24:54
I started the questionaire - first question: "What are the economic conditions for the cities you chose?"
Like I'm supposed to know that???
BobR on 06/19/2008 20:24:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
I was gonna post a like to this website called whosyourcity.com, but the listeners to Talk of the Nation have brought it to it's knees.
I started the questionaire - first question: "What are the economic conditions for the cities you chose?"
Like I'm supposed to know that???
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 20:30:16
Raine on 06/19/2008 20:30:16
Tulsey and Dylan!!! OMG! you posted them HERE!!!
I have seen these babies on Faye's Blog. (we have a link, you know) They are so adorable! can they teach Kizzy how to play with ... anything?
GirlyGirl does not know what a ball is, a chew toy, a frisbee, a rope toy.
She REALLY wants to play, but she does not know how. pobrecita. She needs to come visit her cousins in Oklahoma.
I have seen these babies on Faye's Blog. (we have a link, you know) They are so adorable! can they teach Kizzy how to play with ... anything?
GirlyGirl does not know what a ball is, a chew toy, a frisbee, a rope toy.
She REALLY wants to play, but she does not know how. pobrecita. She needs to come visit her cousins in Oklahoma.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 21:02:46
Random on 06/19/2008 21:02:46
all these dogs.
pft...
Cats are better.
pft...
Cats are better.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:06:31
I just looked at the site, totally useless. :waves dismissively:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:06:31
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
I was gonna post a like to this website called whosyourcity.com, but the listeners to Talk of the Nation have brought it to it's knees.
I started the questionaire - first question: "What are the economic conditions for the cities you chose?"
Like I'm supposed to know that???
I just looked at the site, totally useless. :waves dismissively:
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 21:09:59
Raine on 06/19/2008 21:09:59
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I her.
Always will. damn I wish my pussy could read... then she would understand.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
her. Always will.
damn I wish my pussy could read... then she would understand.I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 21:11:45
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Random on 06/19/2008 21:11:45
Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 21:15:45
capt on 06/19/2008 21:15:45
Cats can read - they just deny it because it is often a threat to humans. Knowing all their secrets would make taking over the world that much harder.
I caught my kitties reading "Little Women" one day.
Never underestimate a cat.
I caught my kitties reading "Little Women" one day.
Never underestimate a cat.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:17:39
Who's kitty is cute? Random's kitty is cute! Well actually almost all kitties are cute, except the hairless sphinx. : shudder:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:17:39
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Who's kitty is cute? Random's kitty is cute! Well actually almost all kitties are cute, except the hairless sphinx. : shudder:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:19:34
The Sphinx.
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:19:34
The Sphinx.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 21:20:42
I contest that kittens are the only thing that looks cute killing other things.
Random on 06/19/2008 21:20:42
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Who's kitty is cute? Random's kitty is cute! Well actually almost all kitties are cute, except the hairless sphinx. : shudder:
I contest that kittens are the only thing that looks cute killing other things.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:20:56
But were they enjoying it? :rofl:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:20:56
Quote by capt:
Cats can read - they just deny it because it is often a threat to humans. Knowing all their secrets would make taking over the world that much harder.
I caught my kitties reading "Little Women" one day.
Never underestimate a cat.
But were they enjoying it? :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 21:26:50
I still want to see that picture again with Camille giving the stank eye look when you had her on a leash when you were moving to Atlanta.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 21:26:50
Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
I still want to see that picture again with Camille giving the stank eye look when you had her on a leash when you were moving to Atlanta.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 21:32:13
capt on 06/19/2008 21:32:13
They acted like it was a re-read. Hard to tell if they enjoyed it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:33:27
Random! Yes! Cats are awfully cute when they are dismembering their prey.
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 21:33:27
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Who's kitty is cute? Random's kitty is cute! Well actually almost all kitties are cute, except the hairless sphinx. : shudder:
I contest that kittens are the only thing that looks cute killing other things.
Random!
Yes! Cats are awfully cute when they are dismembering their prey.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 21:35:38
livingonli on 06/19/2008 21:35:38
I wonder if Jazz is cute when he's finding new ways to torment producerchris.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 21:39:24
Well, they are. It's creepy how cute those evil bastards are. And even scarier, is you know they're evil bastards plotting against you, yet you still do their bidding.
Random on 06/19/2008 21:39:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Random, I have had a cat for over 10 years... I just want my beloved camille to know... I
Always will.
I know. Off I go to the penalty box
Random is vaguely confused by the emotions in that post.
*hugs his kitty* random love his kitty.
Who's kitty is cute? Random's kitty is cute! Well actually almost all kitties are cute, except the hairless sphinx. : shudder:
I contest that kittens are the only thing that looks cute killing other things.
Random!
Well, they are. It's creepy how cute those evil bastards are. And even scarier, is you know they're evil bastards plotting against you, yet you still do their bidding.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 21:58:43
capt on 06/19/2008 21:58:43
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:06:30
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:06:30
Back.
I called my Congressman and left a message with an aide who took my address and telephone number.
I don't know if I made a difference, but I feel better for trying. At this point, I am burned out emotionally and wonder if any of my actions can make a difference. However, I think that speaking up at least puts me on the record of wanting to not have this FISA Bill.
I called my Congressman and left a message with an aide who took my address and telephone number.
I don't know if I made a difference, but I feel better for trying. At this point, I am burned out emotionally and wonder if any of my actions can make a difference. However, I think that speaking up at least puts me on the record of wanting to not have this FISA Bill.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 22:35:16
livingonli on 06/19/2008 22:35:16
I'm seeing some weird error message on top of bloggie.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:41:38
Same here.
For our admins, here it is:
Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(/tmp/sess_uc4t3l2tb7re6c1l9n022q7eb5, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) in /home/.anouk/bobr69/FourFreedomsBlog.com/functions.php on line 3
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:41:38
Quote by livingonli:
I'm seeing some weird error message on top of bloggie.
Same here.
For our admins, here it is:
Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(/tmp/sess_uc4t3l2tb7re6c1l9n022q7eb5, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) in /home/.anouk/bobr69/FourFreedomsBlog.com/functions.php on line 3
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:50:38
Will in Chicago on 06/19/2008 22:50:38
The error is not appearing on the boards.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 22:51:22
BobR on 06/19/2008 22:51:22
Very strange - I've put in a trouble ticket with our ISP; we'll see what comes of it.
and no, I haven't been jinking with the code...
and no, I haven't been jinking with the code...
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 22:56:41
Things happen.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 22:56:41
Things happen.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:04:17
capt on 06/19/2008 23:04:17
Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(/tmp/sess_afquq5c2dcrt6q0j5rnf554rg4, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) in /home/.anouk/bobr69/FourFreedomsBlog.com/functions.php on line 3
Is at top for me too. NBD
Is at top for me too. NBD
Comment by m-hadley on 06/19/2008 23:04:38
How were their book reports? Cat-astic, I bet :P
Makes me feel like my boyz is dumb or sumtin'. All Dillie can do is chew books, bad Dill, bad boy, put that book down
. Tulsey don't 'preciate kulture at all, even KO bores him
:D
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
m-hadley on 06/19/2008 23:04:38
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
Cats can read - they just deny it because it is often a threat to humans. Knowing all their secrets would make taking over the world that much harder.
I caught my kitties reading "Little Women" one day.
Never underestimate a cat.
But were they enjoying it? :rofl:
How were their book reports? Cat-astic, I bet :P
Makes me feel like my boyz is dumb or sumtin'. All Dillie can do is chew books, bad Dill, bad boy, put that book down
. Tulsey don't 'preciate kulture at all, even KO bores him :D
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:05:20
capt on 06/19/2008 23:05:20
Probably just the NSA messin' with their end? 
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:10:11
Random on 06/19/2008 23:10:11
Random has to ask. Does anyone know a surefire way to sleep in class without getting caught?
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:12:22
Random on 06/19/2008 23:12:22
bobr69?
That seems vageuly inappropriate
That seems vageuly inappropriate
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:14:24
Random on 06/19/2008 23:14:24
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got these two at the bottom of the page.
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got these two at the bottom of the page.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:15:22
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:15:22
When I came home I found one of the felines had puked on the sofa. Didn't know which one it was, then just before my wife came home, Cleo puked three times on the floor. She must have been the one who did the sofa. Poor little girl :(
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:16:10
It involves astral projection and a parallel universe cross over, kind of more trouble than it's worth. I know for sure you can't be a snorer or a drooler.
capt on 06/19/2008 23:16:10
Does anyone know a surefire way to sleep in class without getting caught?
It involves astral projection and a parallel universe cross over, kind of more trouble than it's worth. I know for sure you can't be a snorer or a drooler.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:18:15
I think i'll stay with this blog while the teach drones on...and on...and on...
Sorry...i do that
Random on 06/19/2008 23:18:15
Quote by capt:Does anyone know a surefire way to sleep in class without getting caught?
It involves astral projection and a parallel universe cross over, kind of more trouble than it's worth. I know for sure you can't be a snorer or a drooler.
I think i'll stay with this blog while the teach drones on...and on...and on...
Sorry...i do that
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:19:46
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:19:46
One of these days I do a post of each of the past/present kitties at the forum.
But for now here's Cleo
But for now here's Cleo
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:20:43
proof of how to never underestimate a cat's ability to look really evil and REALLY cute at the same time
Random on 06/19/2008 23:20:43
Quote by trojanrabbit:
One of these days I do a post of each of the past/present kitties at the forum.
But for now here's Cleo
proof of how to never underestimate a cat's ability to look really evil and REALLY cute at the same time
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:22:35
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:22:35
We had just gotten her from the shelter about a week after we lost our 14 year old cat Buddy from cancer. We were surprised she even ventured out this far.
What we didn't know was that the previous owner was mistreating her - he was hitting her with his cane.
Now after a year and a half of TLC she's a little sweetheart.
What we didn't know was that the previous owner was mistreating her - he was hitting her with his cane.
Now after a year and a half of TLC she's a little sweetheart.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 23:23:24
livingonli on 06/19/2008 23:23:24
Kitty! Is Cleo wondering where the food is? Although if Cleio puked, it may not be so hungry.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:25:51
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:25:51
I'm thinking it's just a furball. Both cats have plenty of food.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:26:46
Random on 06/19/2008 23:26:46
I need pictures of my cats...
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:27:51
Naw, she's very beautiful. Those eye's are amazing.
capt on 06/19/2008 23:27:51
look really evil
Naw, she's very beautiful. Those eye's are amazing.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:28:53
Random on 06/19/2008 23:28:53
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:29:59
you make the assumption that the two are mutually exclusive. I tend to find that the more beauty there is...the more evil there is.
Random on 06/19/2008 23:29:59
Quote by capt:look really evil
Naw, she's very beautiful. Those eye's are amazing.
you make the assumption that the two are mutually exclusive. I tend to find that the more beauty there is...the more evil there is.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:34:55
The flash got her eyes in exactly the right way so they look all the same color.
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:34:55
Quote by capt:look really evil
Naw, she's very beautiful. Those eye's are amazing.
The flash got her eyes in exactly the right way so they look all the same color.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:36:54
capt on 06/19/2008 23:36:54
I am a sucker for any animal. I love em all. Very good looking puppy pictures too BTW.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:41:28
capt on 06/19/2008 23:41:28
Obama Remarks on Detainees and Afghanistan
I may not agree with him 100% but WOW - McCain has bitten off more than he can chew I think . . .
(I like it!)
I may not agree with him 100% but WOW - McCain has bitten off more than he can chew I think . . .
(I like it!)
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:42:00
trojanrabbit on 06/19/2008 23:42:00
Buddy was our first cat, and since he was an only cat for most of his life he was absolutely spoiled rotten.
Whenever I hear Jim supposedly do Mama's Dodge Dart, I cringe. Chryslers do NOT sound like that, they have a distinctive starter, even when the battery's run down.
We visited some friends in Montgomery a long time ago, and when we left they held the camcorder while we started the car and drove away (then came back for the camcorder). Whenever we played that video, when the car "started" Buddy would freak out, I think he thought he was in the car. As a kitten he used to love going for rides, until one day he was left at the vet and he came home an "it".
Whenever I hear Jim supposedly do Mama's Dodge Dart, I cringe. Chryslers do NOT sound like that, they have a distinctive starter, even when the battery's run down.
We visited some friends in Montgomery a long time ago, and when we left they held the camcorder while we started the car and drove away (then came back for the camcorder). Whenever we played that video, when the car "started" Buddy would freak out, I think he thought he was in the car. As a kitten he used to love going for rides, until one day he was left at the vet and he came home an "it".
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 23:42:02
livingonli on 06/19/2008 23:42:02
No more fistbump for Random.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 23:51:08
capt on 06/19/2008 23:51:08
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), 1869 - 1948
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 23:54:01
eh...Random is experimenting.
He still bitter he can't use the emoticon he wants to.
Random on 06/19/2008 23:54:01
Quote by livingonli:
No more fistbump for Random.
eh...Random is experimenting.
He still bitter he can't use the emoticon he wants to.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:00:24
Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:00:24
Tweety is frickin retard! Do you think it is okay for Obama to emphasize his mixed race heritage? Ummm yeah!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:03:28
Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:03:28
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 00:06:11
capt on 06/20/2008 00:06:11
Mrs. Crypt-keeper!
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 00:07:37
I'd do her.
Random on 06/20/2008 00:07:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
I'd do her.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:10:23
Random admitting he would like be cougar bait! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:10:23
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
I'd do her.
Random admitting he would like be cougar bait! :rofl:
Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 00:11:59
You mean you'd let her eat you, she is a lizard lady you know, more lizard than lady I think.
capt on 06/20/2008 00:11:59
Quote by Random:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
I'd do her.
You mean you'd let her eat you, she is a lizard lady you know, more lizard than lady I think.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:17:33
You mean like the ones in V?
Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:17:33
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
I'd do her.
You mean you'd let her eat you, she is a lizard lady you know, more lizard than lady I think.
You mean like the ones in V?
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 00:20:27
You forget, Random is desperate.
Random on 06/20/2008 00:20:27
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Cindy McCain is a vile harpy. a very well groomed, size 4 harpy. But still a vile evil harpy.
I'd do her.
Random admitting he would like be cougar bait! :rofl:
You forget, Random is desperate.
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 00:22:02
Random on 06/20/2008 00:22:02
Is random the only one getting a weird problem with the name emoticons?
Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 00:24:21
capt on 06/20/2008 00:24:21
Exactly "V" - I can totally see it.
Random better be careful with that stuff.
Random better be careful with that stuff.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:41:55
Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 00:41:55
Colonialism, it is the new black!
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 00:55:42
Random on 06/20/2008 00:55:42
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Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2008 01:13:12
Yes, there is the problem of "V D" (which is how I refered to the series at times.)
Will in Chicago on 06/20/2008 01:13:12
Quote by capt:
Exactly "V" - I can totally see it.
Random better be careful with that stuff.
Yes, there is the problem of "V D" (which is how I refered to the series at times.)
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 01:26:40
Random on 06/20/2008 01:26:40
Random is home.
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 01:30:56
livingonli on 06/20/2008 01:30:56
Are we having fun yet?
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 01:42:29
You'll need more than cootie shots if you visit the liar of Cindy McCain.
livingonli on 06/20/2008 01:42:29
Quote by will in chicago:Quote by capt:
Exactly "V" - I can totally see it.
Random better be careful with that stuff.
Yes, there is the problem of "V D" (which is how I refered to the series at times.)
You'll need more than cootie shots if you visit the liar of Cindy McCain.
Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 02:00:12
capt on 06/20/2008 02:00:12
If one pulls on her tail it comes off and wiggles as she scurries away. . .
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 02:11:13
Random on 06/20/2008 02:11:13
Random is vaguely confused.
Did Capt finally get a emoticon for his name?
Did Capt finally get a emoticon for his name?
Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 02:14:23
capt on 06/20/2008 02:14:23
I'm a little slow but I am learning!
New stuff is a gas!
New stuff is a gas!
Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 02:27:08
Yesh...yesh it is.
Random on 06/20/2008 02:27:08
Quote by capt:
I'm a little slow but I am learning!
New stuff is a gas!
Yesh...yesh it is.
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 03:30:24
livingonli on 06/20/2008 03:30:24
Slow night tonight.
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 04:50:19
livingonli on 06/20/2008 04:50:19
And here's the answer to Raine's question;
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 06:16:16
livingonli on 06/20/2008 06:16:16
Then I also saw this take on the song and video;