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The Slippery Slope
Author: BobR    Date: 06/20/2008 12:27:42

"No more war for oil" has been a slogan since the beginning of the war in Iraq, as protesters across the country and around the world accused the Bush administration of doing just that. Why was the Oil Ministry the only place secured by our forces? Haven't there been slips and hints from various officials inside the administration that America needs to drill in ANWR so that we no longer have to send our soldiers into battle for oil?

It seems that our suspicions were well-founded. Iraq is granting no-bid contracts to mostly American oil companies:
Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.

Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP — the original partners in the Iraq Petroleum Company — along with Chevron and a number of smaller oil companies, are in talks with Iraq's Oil Ministry for no-bid contracts to service Iraq's largest fields, according to ministry officials, oil company officials and an American diplomat.

The deals, expected to be announced on June 30, will lay the foundation for the first commercial work for the major companies in Iraq since the American invasion, and open a new and potentially lucrative country for their operations.

The no-bid contracts are unusual for the industry, and the offers prevailed over others by more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India. The contracts, which would run for one to two years and are relatively small by industry standards, would nonetheless give the companies an advantage in bidding on future contracts in a country that many experts consider to be the best hope for a large-scale increase in oil production.

There was suspicion among many in the Arab world and among parts of the American public that the United States had gone to war in Iraq precisely to secure the oil wealth these contracts seek to extract. The Bush administration has said that the war was necessary to combat terrorism. It is not clear what role the United States played in awarding the contracts; there are still American advisers to Iraq's Oil Ministry.

This of course sets a dangerous precedent, and sets the stage for future wars centered around gaining or protecting access to other oil fields around the world (including Iran's). Sudan may be next:
A US human rights activist on Tuesday warned China that it risked rebel attacks against its oil interests in Sudan unless it put pressure on its ally Khartoum to end the violence in Darfur and south Sudan.

John Prendergast told reporters that Beijing, a veto-wielding council member which has close energy ties with Khartoum, has a "disproportionate responsibility" in helping find a settlement to the conflicts in Darfur and south Sudan.

"They (the Chinese) must fulfil that or else we are going to see Sudan burn and one of the first things that is going to burn is China's own economic interests," he added after he and other Darfur activists met with members of the UN Security Council.

Prendergast, a former Africa expert at the National Security Council and the State Department, said he had just returned from a trip to south Sudan where recent fighting in the flashpoint oil-rich region of Abyei had threatened a return to civil war.

An even bigger problem is that the oil companies themselves may be the ones waging war, using private armies like Blackwater, according to Jeremy Scahill (from an interview):
Jeremy Scahill: That's a very interesting question, and I don't know. Blackwater has a private intelligence company called Total Intelligence Solutions that offers what they describe as "CIA-type services" to Fortune 1000 corporations when they go into hostile areas. The U.N. Working Group on the Use of Mercenaries said recently about Latin America that, and I quote, "an emerging trend in Latin America and also in other regions of the world indicates situations of private security companies protecting transnational extractive corporations whose employees are often involved in suppressing legitimate social protest of communities and human rights and environmental organizations of the areas where these corporations operate." It's on right now, and it's growing by leaps and bounds.

I think it would be very difficult for local people in those communities to even know who did the action if mercenaries did it. Nigerians knew exactly who the people were who attacked them, from their insignias on their uniforms. And that information is being used in the case brought against Chevron. In the case of these private companies, often they operate with no indicator of who they are. It would take a huge amount of effort just to discover who the hell it was doing the torturing or whatever. We've already seen that its tremendously difficult to get any information about the official work of official forces, not to mention when you put it through layers of secrecy that come with contractors and subcontractors.

Isn't this the very definition of fascism? Large (oil) companies raising armies and waging war with local militias while the government turns a blind eye. Where does it end, once we start down that slippery oil-covered slope?

Perhaps it ends by removing the need for the oil that comes from these places. This can mean developing other forms of energy. It can also mean creating new oil from scrap materials, something that may be possible when nothing but oil will do. It's already being done on a small scale:
Ten years ago I could never have imagined I’d be doing this,” says Greg Pal, 33, a former software executive, as he squints into the late afternoon Californian sun. “I mean, this is essentially agriculture, right? But the people I talk to – especially the ones coming out of business school – this is the one hot area everyone wants to get into.”

He means bugs. To be more precise: the genetic alteration of bugs – very, very small ones – so that when they feed on agricultural waste such as woodchips or wheat straw, they do something extraordinary. They excrete crude oil.
----snip----
What is most remarkable about what they are doing is that instead of trying to reengineer the global economy – as is required, for example, for the use of hydrogen fuel – they are trying to make a product that is interchangeable with oil. The company claims that this “Oil 2.0” will not only be renewable but also carbon negative – meaning that the carbon it emits will be less than that sucked from the atmosphere by the raw materials from which it is made.
----snip----
Inside LS9’s cluttered laboratory – funded by $20 million of start-up capital from investors including Vinod Khosla, the Indian-American entrepreneur who co-founded Sun Micro-systems – Mr Pal explains that LS9’s bugs are single-cell organisms, each a fraction of a billionth the size of an ant. They start out as industrial yeast or nonpathogenic strains of E. coli, but LS9 modifies them by custom-de-signing their DNA. “Five to seven years ago, that process would have taken months and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,” he says. “Now it can take weeks and cost maybe $20,000.”

Because crude oil (which can be refined into other products, such as petroleum or jet fuel) is only a few molecular stages removed from the fatty acids normally excreted by yeast or E. coli during fermentation, it does not take much fiddling to get the desired result.

It's been said the pen is mightier than the sword. Perhaps in this case, the pen of a molecular biologist is mightier than the swords of the oil companies. We can only hope...


 

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Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2008 12:51:46
What's also never reported is the main reason why the Iraqi government will not approve the much touted "oil law". It has nothing to do with the split of oil along sunni/shia/kurd lines, but the fact that those three groups only get 10% revenue each while the rest goes to global oil companies. And that it's being FORCED on them by the computerized remote controls on the oil wells that will only be turned on when the law passes.



maybe.. it's believable enough. I'd put nothing past the Bushies and Big Oil.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:07:19
Good morning!

Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 13:17:11
blog

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 13:17:58
I'm here...late to the party! :coffee:



Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2008 13:26:46
Chinese gov't reduces oil subsidies to raise pump prices and decrease demand.

Good.. AFAIC no oil company should be getting ANY subsidy at a time when they're making money hand over fist.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:27:05
CLINTSER!!!! on the line!!!

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 13:28:54
: sputters :



But, Obama is different!



Of course, I never knew until today that was a codeword for "black".



tools.





Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:32:13
Yeah, that was me. Unfortunately, by the time I got on the line with Mama and the Mooks, I had forgotten Rebekah's instructions about no "Uh"s and "er"s and did just that as I talked to them. I was just freakin' nervous!

Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2008 13:32:30
What do all racial slurs have in common, besides the obvious?



They're all alternatives to "human being" used by people of little intelligence.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:35:13
Guh. Donnie is back?

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:35:16
Aw, dammit, I had to call and bring Donnie back out of the woodwork.

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 13:36:20
Good morning everyone.



Great blog, BobR. I've always believed the neo-con agenda was about imperialism and now its exposed to the world.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:36:42
Quote by clintster:

Yeah, that was me. Unfortunately, by the time I got on the line with Mama and the Mooks, I had forgotten Rebekah's instructions about no "Uh"s and "er"s and did just that as I talked to them. I was just freakin' nervous!
Well it gets easier! you did fine!!!



Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 13:38:04
Donnie Scares me.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 13:39:25
Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 13:40:19
I missed Clintster's call by that much. But I had to endure Donnie's stalking. Maybe the Stephanie Miller show does need security.

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:40:35
Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

Yeah, that was me. Unfortunately, by the time I got on the line with Mama and the Mooks, I had forgotten Rebekah's instructions about no "Uh"s and "er"s and did just that as I talked to them. I was just freakin' nervous!
Well it gets easier! you did fine!!!





Thankees!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:41:19
So can someone please tell me where the HELL John McCain gets off saying anything about campaign Financing? the DNC is taking the FEC to court to FORCE the investigation in to little issue that he is in violation of his own law.

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 13:41:37
Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.



oh wow!



Just think of it as a bunch of people cutting up and joking around.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:42:52
Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.



I bet you will do GREAT! Man that takes guts. I have always had the secret desire to do improv.

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:43:50
Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.





Just remember, the key to comedy is...

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 13:44:02
Thanks Raine and Bobber. Improv is scarier than John McSame.



Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 13:44:39
does this mean Adela is going to call the show.

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:44:50
Quote by clintster:

Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.





Just remember, the key to comedy is...




TIMING!







Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 13:45:09
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.



I bet you will do GREAT! Man that takes guts. I have always had the secret desire to do improv.


At the next blog meet-up maybe the two of you can do a routine for us.



I'm sure you'll do fine,

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:46:08
Quote by clintster:

Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.





Just remember, the key to comedy is...
leaving the blond chick hanging in confusion?!?!? :D

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 13:48:36
Quote by Random:

does this mean Adela is going to call the show.






Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 13:49:23
I check the box.



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 13:51:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.





Just remember, the key to comedy is...
leaving the blond chick hanging in confusion?!?!? :D


:rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 13:51:27
Isn't it time for a new poll?

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:53:01
OK, is there some way we can get George on the 4F? OR is he already here?

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:53:15
yes, I read that story in the AJC. Bob Barr is at 6% in the polls, McCain is at 46% and Obama is at 45%

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:53:44
Oh dear. caller, so uninformed...

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:54:16
Quote by livingonli:

Isn't it time for a new poll?




I think we should have a Veep caucus.



Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 13:54:20
Jim is to the point of Deep Sighing.



<------- Jim Louise Ward

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:54:49
Where the hell has this caller been? Late to the talking point fax machine?

Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 13:54:56
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Random:

does this mean Adela is going to call the show.








NO!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:56:42
I remember when Chris only had 2 organs. good times, good times.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 13:57:40
::: shudder ::: This guy is insane.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 13:58:10
Poll idea?



How's 'bout "will a health realted problem change the named GOP candidate before the election?"



A hail mary play by the GOP would be to switch to someone they can support before they lose it all?



(my tin foil hat is slipping)

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 13:59:07
LOL @ the tape of Steph talking to Fred Phelps.



http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1980/530/1600/fredphelps.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 14:07:47
FRIDAYS WITH FRANGELA!!!!



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 14:09:18
Quote by Raine:

I remember when Chris only had 2 organs. good times, good times.


Is there a special formula that makes one grow extra organs?

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:13:07
well we have already done a VP poll... We could do another I suppose, but I am thinking a super extra bucket of crispy for a poll would be good.







Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 14:14:29
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

I remember when Chris only had 2 organs. good times, good times.


Is there a special formula that makes one grow extra organs?


A special combination of hammer and nails.

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 14:14:57
Quote by livingonli:



Is there a special formula that makes one grow extra organs?


Just get a bucket of Love Canal sludge and apply liberally for several days...

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 14:20:59
Get an organ at the Wurlitzer store?



I favor the piano . . . .

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:22:19
Martha Stewart refused entry into UK. "Martha Stewart has been refused a visa to Britain because of her criminal convictions for obstructing justice, the Daily Telegraph has learned."









Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 14:24:41
<--- New Poll!

Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 14:25:29
Quote by Raine:

Martha Stewart refused entry into UK. "Martha Stewart has been refused a visa to Britain because of her criminal convictions for obstructing justice, the Daily Telegraph has learned."











Yay Britain!



Now if we can ban her from the TeeVee.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 14:25:43
I like roses on my piano but also enjoy tulips on my organ so . . . .

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 14:25:47
Quote by Raine:

Martha Stewart refused entry into UK. "Martha Stewart has been refused a visa to Britain because of her criminal convictions for obstructing justice, the Daily Telegraph has learned."





And yet, they allow Bush in....

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 14:26:41
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

I remember when Chris only had 2 organs. good times, good times.


Is there a special formula that makes one grow extra organs?


The fourth is actually from an organ donation...

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:27:57
What is better than Roses on a piano?







Tulips on my organ...







Skates off to the penalty Box

Comment by Random on 06/20/2008 14:29:24
Quote by BobR:

<--- New Poll!


don't we need an option of

"Leave campaign for health reasons?"

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 14:32:30
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Martha Stewart refused entry into UK. "Martha Stewart has been refused a visa to Britain because of her criminal convictions for obstructing justice, the Daily Telegraph has learned."





And yet, they allow Bush in....


You would think the Queen wouldn't want that boorish oaf around.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:38:54
:rofl: HArriet was well past menopause... that was funny.

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 14:39:13
Shane-O, a possibility for any upcoming Brit Hume remix:



http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/gibbersh.wav



Authentic frontier gibberish!

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 14:39:57
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Martha Stewart refused entry into UK. "Martha Stewart has been refused a visa to Britain because of her criminal convictions for obstructing justice, the Daily Telegraph has learned."





And yet, they allow Bush in....


You would think the Queen wouldn't want that boorish oaf around.


She would not be amused!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:40:15
So.... do I watch part 2 of the scotty hearing?!?!?

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:42:27
Hilary Rosen is just one damn smart woman.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 14:43:16
I think BHO already decided on who will be the VP - and they had input. Barack seems to plan ahead and has been well reasoned.



His campaign would not "do" a poke in the eye - doesn't match the character he has shown so far.





Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 14:45:36
Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 14:47:57
Quote by starling310:

Good morning!



:star: is making her Improv Debut tonight. She is very nervous!!!

Improv is VERY different than getting on stage with a scripted character.



Mornin' Everybody :coffee:



Starling,

I had no idea that my very own roomie had such hidden talent, just remember Momma's night at the Improv and I'd leave that Dr. Ruth impression at home. Seriously, go get 'em grrrrl - I'll be thinking of you and hoping all goes well. You are my hero

Cheers,

mfaye :bow:

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 14:49:27
FAYE!!!

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 14:49:51
MFaye!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:49:52
I think you are right with that one, capt. Patti Doyle is a very smart woman with a lot of very good contacts in washington.



I also don't believe for a minute that the rift is that deep with HRC and Doyle.







FAYE!!!!!!! On the PHONE! NOW!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 14:52:09
no it isn't the first Publically funded campaign caller...

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 14:52:28
Quote by clintster:

Shane-O, a possibility for any upcoming Brit Hume remix:



http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/gibbersh.wav



Authentic frontier gibberish!
That's a riot!



And mFaye on the phone!! - "official" of the SMS again, I hope?



Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 14:53:58
Dolye's brother is one of Obama friends and well connected in CHI town too. HRC and Doyle have been close for 15 years? Barack talked to her about it before he did it. It is the only thing that makes sense.



HI MFAYE!!!!!!!





Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 14:56:02
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080620/sc_livescience/sarcasmseenasevolutionarysurvivalskill



Yeah, suuuuuure it is!

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 14:57:40
RAINE!!!

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 14:58:05
Oooh yes! I saw the Obama ad this morning on NECN; it stopped me in my tracks. He is mesmerizing, isn't he?





Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 14:58:43
Dang - an all 4F morning - time to start the 4F radio show, I think ;)

Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 14:59:03
Raine - the smartest grrrl! :bow:

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:00:13
I am the smartest girl in class!

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 15:01:44
I must have zoned out. I missed Raine's call.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 15:02:31
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by clintster:

Shane-O, a possibility for any upcoming Brit Hume remix:



http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/gibbersh.wav



Authentic frontier gibberish!
That's a riot!



And mFaye on the phone!! - "official" of the SMS again, I hope?





Yeah, Shane-O I am over my SMS Live Blog pique :P

Cheers - the official radical militant librarian of the SMS (once again)

mfaye in Tulsa, OK



Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 15:03:03
Quote by Random:



don't we need an option of

"Leave campaign for health reasons?"


The poll isn't "why", it's "when". Obviously, health reasons would be the "why" in any case...

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 15:03:24
I have been careful to read Barack's prepared comments before I watch or hear him speak.



It is not just his oratory and speaking talents, his message is effin inspiring.



I dare say, McCain could read Barack's words in his monotone sneery-whiny voice and even he would sound good.



I swear, the Remarks on Detainees and Afghanistan was so good I have read it several times and it gets better and better.



I was so inspiried I sent another $25 to Barack.



I almost don't care if he lives up to what I think could be his potential, I could listen to this guy for two terms and he could never be as bad as what we have

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 15:03:47
Gaaah! I tuned out after the first hour to work on resumes. I'll have to catch all y'alls on the Stephcast (insert blatant plug here).

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:05:30
Why yes, we have had 3 4F's call today!!! That plus the Shane-O bits!!!



:devilbanana::party:

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 15:07:47
Why yes, we have had 3 4F's call today!!! That plus the Shane-O bits!!!






That's because you people RAWK!





Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:08:18
And, yet the "Live Blog" gets all the prop from Christopher Louise Lavoie.



Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 15:10:23
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by clintster:

Shane-O, a possibility for any upcoming Brit Hume remix:



http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/gibbersh.wav



Authentic frontier gibberish!
That's a riot!



And mFaye on the phone!! - "official" of the SMS again, I hope?





Yeah, Shane-O I am over my SMS Live Blog pique :P

Cheers - the official radical militant librarian of the SMS (once again)

mfaye in Tulsa, OK

SOO glad to hear that, Faye.



Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:11:54
YAY ROOMIE! I am glad to hear it too. :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 15:13:26
We were top of the list until the SMS live blog came along....



But we have a better product...



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:14:42
Faye it was so great to hear your voice again!



You know about 4 people have called from atlanta today. This city REALLY needs momma on the radio down here.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 15:14:57
We don't need no stinkin'



4F has:

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:16:08
David Beckham has become less "Soccer Star" and more "Celebutard."

:headshake:

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 15:16:15
We were top of the list until the SMS live blog came along....



But we have a better product...





Although a newbie to both - I agree. A better product and a very cool crowd. I am very happy to have found this place.





Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 15:17:08
Quote by Raine:

Faye it was so great to hear your voice again!



You know about 4 people have called from atlanta today. This city REALLY needs momma on the radio down here.




Raine,

And it was good to hear your voice, you smarty pants you :P

Cheers, :hug:

mfaye

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 15:17:53
Quote by capt:

We were top of the list until the SMS live blog came along....



But we have a better product...





Although a newbie to both - I agree. A better product and a very cool crowd. I am very happy to have found this place.







Well, thankee! Tell all your friends! Would you like a canned ham?







Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:18:24
Wow. A show called Hurl while some people cannot afford to eat at all.

That's fantastic.



Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 15:20:16
Mmmmmmm



Ham (sound of Homer drooling)

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:23:29
Quote by Shane-O:

We don't need no stinkin'



4F has:
too !



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 15:30:28
Quote by starling310:

Wow. A show called Hurl while some people cannot afford to eat at all.

That's fantastic.



This country is just a tad dysfunctional at times.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 15:31:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

We don't need no stinkin'



4F has:
too !

Ah - music to my ears...

So gald that blogs aren't regulated (only spied on, and databases filled) - no FCC licenses, etc.



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:32:15
Frangela coming up soon?!?!?! I hope?!?!?!





I love frangela, it when the Miller show REALLY goes off the rails.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:33:16
Quote by Raine:

Frangela coming up soon?!?!?! I hope?!?!?!





I love frangela, it when the Miller show REALLY goes off the rails.






MmmmmmmHmm.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:34:16
FRANGELA!!!!

Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 15:35:33
Frangela introduced with my all-time favorite SMS drop "Last time she was here, she had too much cherry wine and had a three-way with my parents"

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 15:36:21
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Wow. A show called Hurl while some people cannot afford to eat at all.

That's fantastic.



This country is just a tad dysfunctional at times.




(I so love the audio toys...)

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:41:01
Aaaaiiiiirrrrball! Aaaaiiiiirrrrball!Aaaaiiiiirrrrball!Aaaaiiiiirrrrball!

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:42:51
The president IS Cher. . . he is officially on his final Farewell Tour.....we hope.



Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 15:43:40
Say, any Atlanta area bloggers and lurkers (you know who you are)...there's an email making the rounds about a blood shortage in Atlanta. According to our poster,



"I received a call this week from the American Red Cross regarding the dire need for my blood type. ARC was down to a day and a half supply (in GA) and has had to resort to buying blood."



So, roll up your sleeves and get out there! Velveeta (Red Cross Volunteer) and Your Loyal TriSec (longtime blood and platelet donor) will appreciate it...





Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:47:53
AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:49:43
Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???




i thought we had one, but i searched and found nuttin'



Comment by m-hadley on 06/20/2008 15:50:21
Quote by starling310:

The president IS Cher. . . he is officially on his final Farewell Tour.....we hope.





Oh Star,

I beg to differ, I've seen Cher, I've cheered Cher, I've even sung along with "I Got You Babe," and Dumbya is no Cher, He will never be half as fabulous as Cher. :airhump:

:banana: Plus her farewell tour has gone on foreeevvverrr and I want w. GONE.

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by clintster on 06/20/2008 15:51:47
Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???




.wav or .mp3? I'll see if I can clip one.



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 15:52:47
Quote by TriSec:

Say, any Atlanta area bloggers and lurkers (you know who you are)...there's an email making the rounds about a blood shortage in Atlanta. According to our poster,



"I received a call this week from the American Red Cross regarding the dire need for my blood type. ARC was down to a day and a half supply (in GA) and has had to resort to buying blood."



So, roll up your sleeves and get out there! Velveeta (Red Cross Volunteer) and Your Loyal TriSec (longtime blood and platelet donor) will appreciate it...





You can find donatation locations here.

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 15:53:18
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

The president IS Cher. . . he is officially on his final Farewell Tour.....we hope.





Oh Star,

I beg to differ, I've seen Cher, I've cheered Cher, I've even sung along with "I Got You Babe," and Dumbya is no Cher, He will never be half as fabulous as Cher. :airhump:

:banana: Plus her farewell tour has gone on foreeevvverrr and I want w. GONE.

Cheers,

mfaye


Maybe Dumb-dumb is Celine Dion.

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 15:56:34
Trouble with the show?



http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070530/070530_busCrash_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 15:57:23
Quote by TriSec:

Trouble with the show?



http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070530/070530_busCrash_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg




:spit:

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 15:59:26
(I just got this after chipping in $25 this morning)





Hi,



Deborah C. in Madison, WI just made a donation because of your promise to match it!



Deborah C. in Madison, WI might choose to write you a personal message (over 90% of people do). If they do, you'll receive a separate email with that message in a moment.



Want to make another pledge and help bring another new donor into this campaign? You can do it right now:



https://donate.barackobama.com/promise





Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 15:59:53
Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???


By whom? Do you have a particular character or person in mind?



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 16:01:00
Maron v. Seder is supposed to be on at Noon today.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 16:01:04
Dumya, more Ethel Merman?

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 16:07:47
It's taking too long to get into the Seder site.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 16:09:29
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???




i thought we had one, but i searched and found nuttin'

Sling Blade ok? :



edit - upon listening to it, kinda creepy...

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 16:12:11
Why Does McCain Want NAFTA as a Running-mate?



****



In more ways than one it seems like McCain wants to lose?



It strikes me as odd but maybe the GOP has such a tin ear they think they are going to rally support for some of these very unpopular things?





Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2008 16:16:31
Good morning, bloggers!!!



Great to have three calls today from the good folks here at Four Freedoms.



If you have not already done so, please call your Congressman or Congresswoman to oppose the new FISA bill that gives the telecommunications companies immunity.



Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 16:23:22
Quote by will in chicago:

Good morning, bloggers!!!



Great to have three calls today from the good folks here at Four Freedoms.



If you have not already done so, please call your Congressman or Congresswoman to oppose the new FISA bill that gives the telecommunications companies immunity.



Morning Will...



I understand there is a bit of a dust-up over there at UNN... I know how it feels to be in the middle of maelstrom when you're just trying to do what you think is right (or hell - just trying to foster honest conversation).



Let us know if there's anything we can do to help.



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 16:34:25
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???


By whom? Do you have a particular character or person in mind?

Frangela's MmmmmmmmmHmmm



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 16:36:12
Sam Seder is on a roll today. He is pissed.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 16:37:53
There is more than one meaning to 4F you know, Will.

Anything we can do, just ask.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2008 16:39:33
Quote by BobR:

Quote by will in chicago:

Good morning, bloggers!!!



Great to have three calls today from the good folks here at Four Freedoms.



If you have not already done so, please call your Congressman or Congresswoman to oppose the new FISA bill that gives the telecommunications companies immunity.



Morning Will...



I understand there is a bit of a dust-up over there at UNN... I know how it feels to be in the middle of maelstrom when you're just trying to do what you think is right (or hell - just trying to foster honest conversation).



Let us know if there's anything we can do to help.







I think the maelstrom will blow over. Of course, as you, Raine and TriSec are also UNN members, feel free to comment. I will be back setting up the blog entries for Audible Scribblings and the Unreported News.Net Radio Shows (which are independently owned and do not fall under the control of Nova M Radio) on KPHX 1480 Phoenix.



Let us always remember in our dealings with others to try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Unmeritied hatred has ended many friendships.



In the Talmud, the commentators in a few places state that the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 Current Era was due not just to the Roman Empire but unmerited hatred. This is a pretty apt analysis, as the Zealots would not accept a compromise that would have ended the war and the siege of Jerusalem. Thus, the Zealots haragued, harassed, and assassinated those that they disagreed with, believing they were right and that an army of angels would deliver them - the true believers. The Romans burned the Second Temple, killed the high priests and priests (there are no priests in Judaism and have not been any in some 19 centuries), many were murdered, and the Jewish law that a child of a Jewish mother must be considered Jewish was passed due to how they treated women. The Zealots are not well remembered by the contemporary Jewish community.



In opposing someone or a position, beware of the danger of unmerited hate. It can destroy you and what you hold dear. Thus, as much as I oppose the actions of the Bush administration, I want their actions to be held up to public scrutiny and brought before the courts if warranted. If I were to advocate waterbarding, torture, imprisonment without charge and execution, I could not claim to be any different in my tactics than those I oppose. In fighting an enemy, do not become indistinguishable in your actions from your enemy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 16:48:52
Awww poop! I missed a bunch of mi compadres calling Momma. Well its all good, as I, Mondo was safely wrapped in the arms of Big Sleep. I slept well and long! w00t! I feel much better for it.

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 16:52:01
Quote by Mondobubba:

Awww poop! I missed a bunch of mi compadres calling Momma. Well its all good, as I, Mondo was safely wrapped in the arms of Big Sleep. I slept well and long! w00t! I feel much better for it.


It's good to get that REAL sleep after a few days of not.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 16:52:36
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

AUdi con request~!~~



If I ask very nicely, do you think we could get an MmmmmmmHmm ???


By whom? Do you have a particular character or person in mind?

Frangela's MmmmmmmmmHmmm

Ah, yes. After the StephCast goes up - I'd betcha we might be able to isolate a clean one. :)



Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 16:58:05


I don't know why they'd need government permission to do this. However, they should allow any subscriber that disagrees to cancel their contract if they want because of it.

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 16:58:28
This just in from Red Sox nation...



Curt Schilling's career could be over.





Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 17:00:01
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Awww poop! I missed a bunch of mi compadres calling Momma. Well its all good, as I, Mondo was safely wrapped in the arms of Big Sleep. I slept well and long! w00t! I feel much better for it.


It's good to get that REAL sleep after a few days of not.


I have had the odd night where I didn't sleep but never multiple nights that are without sleep.



There are some nights where I haven't gotten enough sleep and then felt groggy and sluggish all day.

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 17:02:52
Quote by BobR:



I don't know why they'd need government permission to do this. However, they should allow any subscriber that disagrees to cancel their contract if they want because of it.


Net neutrality now more than ever.

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 17:08:09
Oh, BTW, on July 14, XM is dropping the Air America name and changing 167 back to America Left. It looks like they will bring back The Young Turks with their own show and also pick up Stephanie Miller (hopefully replacing Lionel).



I guess that's a sign that Air America Radio is really going down the toilet.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:11:51
Terrorist Fist Jab is spreading. My Lady Friend and I have been doing it. "What up my girl Sacha? Give it up homey!" :: terrorist fist jab ::



And, the other night, she was playing Scrabble with a friend. Said friend got a "Bingo" and my girl, Sacha immediately said "Terrorist Fist Jab" and extended her fist waiting for recriprication.



My Lady Friend's Friend ------>



It was explained and they proceeded to :: terrorist fist jab ::



The word is spreading.

Pay the Terrorist Fist Jab Forward.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2008 17:11:58
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by BobR:



I don't know why they'd need government permission to do this. However, they should allow any subscriber that disagrees to cancel their contract if they want because of it.


Net neutrality now more than ever.




Some days, I think my best option is to learn Hebrew, move to Tel Aviv or Haifa and register with the Labor or Meretz (Democratic Socialist) parties. Our House of Representatives seems to be capitualitng as I type this over FISA.



Be well, everyone! I have some errands to run and hope to be back a little later. (I also have some housework to do. Now if someone could only invent self-dusting furniture.)





Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 17:14:30
Quote by Raine:

FAYE!!!!!!! On the PHONE! NOW!




Reminds me of Kent Jones. NOW!



FYI - Rachel will be hosting Race for the White House today.



Izzy donates blood to the Red Cross and local blood bank. :ding: Thank you. It was almost a one time occurrence. The first time I donated, the technician was having some problems with needle placement and had to move it around in the vein, TWICE! I turned white and almost passed out and they made me sit on the bus for a long time, offering copious amounts of juice and cookies. However, I have never had that experience again. It was awful.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:15:20
What up Izzy! :: terrorist fist jab ::

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 17:15:27
I'm in the market for some new car audio....(I have a malfunctioning CD deck, Chuck D has been stuck there for months. Radio still works, though.)



Not sure I want to spring for Sat Radio until this all sorts itself out.





Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 17:18:16
I was saving it for tomorrow, but I'm off to donate platelets again this weekend. (See Libertarian Saturday tomorrow am for the usual details...)



The donor room in Dedham is in the middle of a makeover; we're getting individual HDTV with CD and satellite TV access at each couch!



Gonna have to start renting some Blu-Ray DVDs, methinks.





Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 17:20:00
Quote by TriSec:

This just in from Red Sox nation...



Curt Schilling's career could be over.











Donde los Yikes! That sounds like that is on blown out arm! :cry:

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:25:13
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by TriSec:

This just in from Red Sox nation...



Curt Schilling's career could be over.













Donde los Yikes! That sounds like that is on blown out arm! :cry:




Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:27:03
THOM IS NOT PLEASED!!!

Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 17:29:12
Quote by starling310:

Terrorist Fist Jab is spreading. My Lady Friend and I have been doing it. "What up my girl Sacha? Give it up homey!" :: terrorist fist jab ::



And, the other night, she was playing Scrabble with a friend. Said friend got a "Bingo" and my girl, Sacha immediately said "Terrorist Fist Jab" and extended her fist waiting for recriprication.



My Lady Friend's Friend ------>



It was explained and they proceeded to :: terrorist fist jab ::



The word is spreading.

Pay the Terrorist Fist Jab Forward.



New audicon to pay it forward (a la E.D. Hill):

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:30:10
Roll Call #437 on FISA Amendments Act of 2008

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:33:20
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Terrorist Fist Jab is spreading. My Lady Friend and I have been doing it. "What up my girl Sacha? Give it up homey!" :: terrorist fist jab ::



And, the other night, she was playing Scrabble with a friend. Said friend got a "Bingo" and my girl, Sacha immediately said "Terrorist Fist Jab" and extended her fist waiting for recriprication.



My Lady Friend's Friend ------>



It was explained and they proceeded to :: terrorist fist jab ::



The word is spreading.

Pay the Terrorist Fist Jab Forward.



New audicon to pay it forward (a la E.D. Hill):




OMG SHANE-O! You friggin' rock!

:fbump: <---------

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:35:11
My Congressman (Larson) voted NO!!!

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:40:14
All of the CT Dems voted No. Chris Shays ( R ) voted Yes.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:41:03
:: bounty 2 ply :: :: wipes up muse ::



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 17:51:29
Quote by starling310:

Roll Call #437 on FISA Amendments Act of 2008


My "Democratic" Congresswoman (Carolyn McCarthy) voted for it.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 17:53:28
:fistbump: Wassup Izzy!

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 17:55:28
Quote by starling310:

Roll Call #437 on FISA Amendments Act of 2008


Disgusting and disappointing all the Dems that voted for it. At least my Rep voted against it.

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 17:56:13
Quote by Raine:

:fistbump: Wassup Izzy!




'scuse me Raine. . . it's called a

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 17:57:40
My Congressman voted Yes, but then again he is a massive rightwing tool with a brain the size of dried cranberry. Ohh new nickname for Ander Crenshaw! Craisin Brain! I crack myself up.



If you look him up, you will find out that Crenshaw lived in Tom Delay's cheap polyester slacks. He was on the infamous St Andrew's Golf junket. I'm pretty sure one on Ander's jobs was to polish Jack Abramoff's knob when The Hammer told him to.



:skates off to penalty box:



:gives a terrorist fist jab on the way:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 18:00:35
Quote by starling310:

What up Izzy! :: terrorist fist jab ::




:fbump: Hi Star!



Don't over-muse. You might go blind.



:tosses gooey Bounty into trash bin for 3 points:

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:02:12
Quote by Mondobubba:

My Congressman voted Yes, but then again he is a massive rightwing tool with a brain the size of dried cranberry. Ohh new nickname for Ander Crenshaw! Craisin Brain! I crack myself up.



If you look him up, you will find out that Crenshaw lived in Tom Delay's cheap polyester slacks. He was on the infamous St Andrew's Golf junket. I'm pretty sure one on Ander's jobs was to polish Jack Abramoff's knob when The Hammer told him to.



:skates off to penalty box:



:gives a terrorist fist jab on the way:






-------> --------> :grumble:

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:02:49
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Roll Call #437 on FISA Amendments Act of 2008


Disgusting and disappointing all the Dems that voted for it. At least my Rep voted against it.
Disgust doesn't even begin to describe how I am feeling.



I sent out my emails... I did what I could.



And Nancy Pelosi honestly does not deserve re-election in my opinion at this point. All that fucking talk she gave about standing up to bush, EVERY time it REALLY mattered, she caved. The really important stuff.. she caved.



You know when she was elected speaker of the house, as a woman, I was really happy. No longer. she is as bad as any blue dog Dem that I can see.



Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:05:53
New Oscar Rule



Oh. Thank God. I was starting to wonder what I would tell the children!



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:09:51
CAn we all call Chris Dodd and get him to block the vote again?!?!?!

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:11:25
Quote by Raine:

CAn we all call Chris Dodd and get him to block the vote again?!?!?!




Woot. Woot. Chris Dodd! CT!



:star: --------> <---------- Chris Dodd

Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 18:11:28
Quote by Raine:

:fistbump: Wassup Izzy!




Hi Raine! I loved the pictures of Kizzy yesterday. Too cute!



Nancy Pelosi. Feh. I knew all of those senators were talking out of their asses during that election. I posted my angst at the other bloggie. I really hate it when I'm right.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 18:15:32
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Mondobubba:

My Congressman voted Yes, but then again he is a massive rightwing tool with a brain the size of dried cranberry. Ohh new nickname for Ander Crenshaw! Craisin Brain! I crack myself up.



If you look him up, you will find out that Crenshaw lived in Tom Delay's cheap polyester slacks. He was on the infamous St Andrew's Golf junket. I'm pretty sure one on Ander's jobs was to polish Jack Abramoff's knob when The Hammer told him to.



:skates off to penalty box:



:gives a terrorist fist jab on the way:






-------> --------> :grumble:






:star: You are the master of the emoticon! :bow:

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:23:16
Barack Obama wears a Flag Pin, at all times. . . even in the shower!





Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 18:23:45
Quote by starling310:

New Oscar Rule



Oh. Thank God. I was starting to wonder what I would tell the children!





Why does the academy hate musicals and the gays?!

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 18:23:50
The most beautiful airplane ever built, discuss:







http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/1/0/1325016.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/9/4/1347494.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/0/3/1359302.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/7/6/1334672.jpg




I could go on. What the hey, I'm bored silly here today. :shrug:



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:24:58
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

:fistbump: Wassup Izzy!




'scuse me Raine. . . it's called a
I suppose I could change the name of the to :fistjab:



Right?!?!? Bobber? can I ? Should I??? Someone? Who am I? Why am I here?



Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:26:25
The Truth About Barack Obama by Christopher Beam

There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones.



Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower.



Barack Obama says the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE every time he sees an American flag. He also ends every sentence by saying, "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." Click here for video of Obama quietly mouthing the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in his sleep.



A tape exists of Michelle Obama saying the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE at a conference on PATRIOTISM.



Every weekend, Barack and Michelle take their daughters HUNTING.



Barack Obama is a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN. He has one HAND over his HEART at all times. He occasionally switches when one arm gets tired, which is almost never because he is STRONG.



Barack Obama has the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE tattooed on his stomach. It's upside-down, so he can read it while doing sit-ups.



There's only one artist on Barack Obama's iPod: FRANCIS SCOTT KEY.



Barack Obama is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. His favorite book is the BIBLE, which he has memorized. His name means HE WHO LOVES JESUS in the ancient language of Aramaic. He is PROUD that Jesus was an American.



Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW.



Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH.



Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.



Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.



Barack Obama says that Americans cling to GUNS and RELIGION because they are AWESOME.




:star: ------> <--------- Christopher Beam





Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 18:28:05
Quote by TriSec:

The most beautiful airplane ever built, discuss:







http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/1/0/1325016.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/9/4/1347494.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/0/3/1359302.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/7/6/1334672.jpg




I could go on. What the hey, I'm bored silly here today. :shrug:







I'm a big Spitfire fan meself, Tri. Those elliptical wings, oh mah gawd!

Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:28:44
:: for TriSec :: Oooooohhh!!!! Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 18:30:50
Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:31:44
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by starling310:

New Oscar Rule



Oh. Thank God. I was starting to wonder what I would tell the children!





Why does the academy hate musicals and the gays?!




Why do they hate America? :headshake:



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:33:45
Actually after consulting with the blog guru, I cannot change the name without breaking all the links. so, : fbump : it is...







Comment by starling310 on 06/20/2008 18:36:28
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/Meetup08/StarRaineStanDC2008.jpg




STAN!!!!!

Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 18:38:15
I was listening to some of Scotty's testimony before the ever so lovely representatives of our fair land. Cutting him off, putting words in his mouth and doing the superior dance of words. Daddy will be so proud of them.

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 18:38:58
"Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL. "





Actually, that's a good one. I don't know about the rest of us pasty-skinned posers...





Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 18:41:32
Quote by Mondobubba:





I'm a big Spitfire fan meself, Tri. Those elliptical wings, oh mah gawd!




Indeedy, that and it has the best piston aero engine ever built...



I'm all about the sounds, after the big honkin' radials, anything with a Merlin in it tops my list...







Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:41:51
my money is not a BRIBE, caller. It is support.... Lobbyists bribe.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:46:33
:boobs2: STAN!!!!


Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 18:49:22
I've always been partial to the Boeing 307 and 377 (Stratocruiser and Stratoliner)...



http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/5/4/1279456.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/2/6/0708628.jpg




and of course - let's not forget the Stratocaster:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/Strat.jpg


Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 18:53:05
The Salt Lake Desert is America soil too, you know, TRi. And it is pretty pasty... :D

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 18:59:02
Quote by Raine:

:boobs2: STAN!!!!


Love the picture of him wearing your hat.

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 19:00:58
Hmm, I'm not much of a fan of the "double-bubble" design, I think that's resulted in quite possibly the ugliest beast ever to fly.



http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/9/6/1362694.jpg












Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 19:03:58
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Terrorist Fist Jab is spreading. My Lady Friend and I have been doing it. "What up my girl Sacha? Give it up homey!" :: terrorist fist jab ::



And, the other night, she was playing Scrabble with a friend. Said friend got a "Bingo" and my girl, Sacha immediately said "Terrorist Fist Jab" and extended her fist waiting for recriprication.



My Lady Friend's Friend ------>



It was explained and they proceeded to :: terrorist fist jab ::



The word is spreading.

Pay the Terrorist Fist Jab Forward.



New audicon to pay it forward (a la E.D. Hill):




OMG SHANE-O! You friggin' rock!

:fbump: <---------
I aim to please... :)

I may need to put more of a lead on it (if others are having trouble hearing the full clip - let me know)



Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2008 19:05:33
Quote by livingonli:

Oh, BTW, on July 14, XM is dropping the Air America name and changing 167 back to America Left. It looks like they will bring back The Young Turks with their own show and also pick up Stephanie Miller (hopefully replacing Lionel).



I guess that's a sign that Air America Radio is really going down the toilet.




That would be great if that happened, and it would be a great birthday present for me (I'd have to re-activate my radio first).



But keep in mind that Sirius only has 1 hour of the SMS and that's at 8PM

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2008 19:07:49
I can almost always depend on Barney Frank to vote the correct way.

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 19:10:30




TriSec and Bobr playing some Jazz!



:bounce:

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 19:10:41
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:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

:penis: :penis: :penis: :penis:

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Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 19:11:55
Quote by trojanrabbit:

I can almost always depend on Barney Frank to vote the correct way.






hrm??? You "one of us", rabbit? I'm in Ed Markey's district...







Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 19:12:18
It's friday ya bastahds!!!



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BOUNCE!!!





Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2008 19:13:41
Quote by TriSec:

The most beautiful airplane ever built, discuss:







The one that gets you from Point A to Point B in one piece.



Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 19:13:44
Quote by TriSec:

Hmm, I'm not much of a fan of the "double-bubble" design, I think that's resulted in quite possibly the ugliest beast ever to fly.



http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/9/6/1362694.jpg






I like the windshields and the rounded nose of the 307...



Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 19:15:00
Quote by Shane-O:

I aim to please... :)

I may need to put more of a lead on it (if others are having trouble hearing the full clip - let me know)



sounds good to me... :shrug:

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 19:15:02
A belated late but Bounce 'em if you got 'em











Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2008 19:17:56
Quote by BobR:

I've always been partial to the Boeing 307 and 377 (Stratocruiser and Stratoliner)...



http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/5/4/1279456.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/2/6/0708628.jpg




and of course - let's not forget the Stratocaster:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/Strat.jpg






:rofl: Well played Bobber.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2008 19:18:42
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

I can almost always depend on Barney Frank to vote the correct way.






hrm??? You "one of us", rabbit? I'm in Ed Markey's district...









Millis, MA - 4th Congressional District



Barney Frank's my guy.



Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 19:20:05
It's Fridee! Hi Stan!

Comment by TriSec on 06/20/2008 19:23:37
TRMS Nice!



There have been plenty of times I wished I was in Barney Frank's district...I rather like Bill Delahunt, too.





Comment by Shane-O on 06/20/2008 19:24:14
I've always been a Corsair fan (F4U)...

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2008 19:26:20
Time to start the commute home.



With luck I'll be home around 5

Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/20/2008 19:30:06
Listening to Bill 0 go crazy over a foreign TeeVee ad featuring gay people buying mayonnaise.



All of these photos are making my computer run like a snail. Izzy out.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2008 19:59:32
My rep (Patrick Kennedy) was on the right side of the fence.



As for the other rep from my state... LAAAAANGEVIN!

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 19:59:58
The pictures do slow bloggie down. And now I better get my ass to the salt mine.



See ya there.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 20:01:01
heya Izzzy, and all those who may experience slowdowns... you can change your user options to only show 50 comments. or 10 or whatever makes you happy. That usually does the trick when the bloggie gets slow.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2008 20:07:06
OK I'm headin' home.. Goin' to visit momz & grammaz this weekend!

Comment by BobR on 06/20/2008 20:28:27
Quote by Raine:

heya Izzzy, and all those who may experience slowdowns... you can change your user options to only show 50 comments. or 10 or whatever makes you happy. That usually does the trick when the bloggie gets slow.


You can also disable "show pictures" in your options. When you do that, they display as links, and then you can click on them when you want...

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 20:31:49
:party: Randi is talking about what I called momma for today!!!



FINALLY!!!!!!



McCain is a lawbreaker! I am going to BOAST about this. I have been following this story VERY closely over on our Four Freedoms Message Board!



McCainis indeed in violation of Campaign financing laws. He is NOT allowed to opt out of public financing without the OK from the FEC, and he did that very thing. HE went OVER his spending limits months ago.



Thank you Randi for talking about this.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 20:47:41
Randi is talking about what I called momma for today!!!




That is too cool!



I am so mad about FISA! (insert string of curse words HERE)



My rep is Heather Wilson (R-Bushbot) until the new congress so I never had a hope for her to vote with the constitution.



I just feel like the darn dem's have such strong polling numbers and the projections are looking so good, the down tickets so strong that they took this time to accept telecom $$ and lay down with Bush AGAIN?



I've had steam coming out of my ears since it happened. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.



UGH!!!

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 21:04:42
capt. we still have some hope that the senate will do the right thing. we still need to make those phone calls and emails! (I have been sending out emails all afternoon)

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 21:06:16
the new firefox looks a lot like Safari. :unsure: I am giving it a whirl.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:08:04
Barack’s Bounce



The latest NEWSWEEK Poll shows the Democrat with a 15-point lead over McCain.





http://www.newsweek.com/id/142465?from=rss





Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:09:47
I have been sending out emails all afternoon




That's where my "mad" enegry has been all day too.



It is just so crazy? So unnecessary? Why now? What is their rush if not to innoculate Bunnypants?



Grrrrrr



I hope they put a stop to this insanity.





Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:18:53
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 21:27:49
Awww, F*ck.



I read the article. I just don't like it. I do however hope to ALL HELL that the amnesty provision will be removed by the senate. Harry Reid better have a f*cking spine. We need them to remove that provision... THAT is where I have a huge problem.



Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 21:32:17
Quote by Raine:

Awww, F*ck.



I read the article. I just don't like it. I do however hope to ALL HELL that the amnesty provision will be removed by the senate. Harry Reid better have a f*cking spine. We need them to remove that provision... THAT is where I have a huge problem.



This starts to bring up my worries that Obama is a little too close to the center. We need a radical change to undo the damage of the Bush Administration and if Obama doesn't deliver I think you will find many people who are disappointed or pissed.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:34:41
Fisa works TODAY, just fine. This is a change in the law. A change that doesn't do anything except allow for more violations of privacy and telecom immunity.



Grrrrrr.



Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 21:37:04
I am feeling batter about Obama's statement with Randi explaining it.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:38:06
So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program




WTF? This is not going to the center - it is clearly an endorsement of at least this portion of the unitary executive.



Now what do we do?



I am beside myself on this one.

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 21:41:00
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Awww, F*ck.



I read the article. I just don't like it. I do however hope to ALL HELL that the amnesty provision will be removed by the senate. Harry Reid better have a f*cking spine. We need them to remove that provision... THAT is where I have a huge problem.



This starts to bring up my worries that Obama is a little too close to the center. We need a radical change to undo the damage of the Bush Administration and if Obama doesn't deliver I think you will find many people who are disappointed or pissed.
Barack Obama is co-sponsoring an ammendment with Senator Dodd to have the immunity removed from the bill.



Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 21:42:42
Why now? Why not wait until after the election? Why service Mr. 29% the most unpopular president in modern history? Why give him a win?



I'll go burn one - maybe I need an attitude adjustment.





Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 21:51:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Awww, F*ck.



I read the article. I just don't like it. I do however hope to ALL HELL that the amnesty provision will be removed by the senate. Harry Reid better have a f*cking spine. We need them to remove that provision... THAT is where I have a huge problem.



This starts to bring up my worries that Obama is a little too close to the center. We need a radical change to undo the damage of the Bush Administration and if Obama doesn't deliver I think you will find many people who are disappointed or pissed.
Barack Obama is co-sponsoring an ammendment with Senator Dodd to have the immunity removed from the bill.



I hope it gets through.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 22:02:14
I think Barack has the top slot in the bag. McCain doesn't stand a chance - the D's are going to clean-up and might have the best control over the whole shebang for the first time in too many years.



I think they would help their position and support by standing strong and refusing to pass poor legislation.



Could this be the last throes of the GOP-lite wing of the democratic party? (should that be encouraging?)



I once thought highly of the DLC and some of the conservative leaning mentality from some on the left but the world is such a different place now.



The bottom line is to keep working as hard as necessary for Barack and all down ticket dem's, local elections and more progressives in government. I used to rail against blind partisanship but I would welcome supremajorities in both the house and senate. Maybe new leadership - Reid, Pelosi and Hoyer need a break.



I thought Dodd has been one of the good guys on this - I hope it goes through too.



Even stripping the immunity - this bill is a stinker. Then again I personally do not believe the FISA court is legal but I can be a stick in the mud.

















Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 22:04:35
Quote by capt:

Why now? Why not wait until after the election? Why service Mr. 29% the most unpopular president in modern history? Why give him a win?



I'll go burn one - maybe I need an attitude adjustment.





:spliff: here you go capt.



you did the lords work today, you earned it.

Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 22:08:58
WAY better! Thanks!





Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 22:09:50
I must have picked a bad week to quit barbituates . . .

Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 22:16:39
Quote by capt:

I think Barack has the top slot in the bag. McCain doesn't stand a chance - the D's are going to clean-up and might have the best control over the whole shebang for the first time in too many years.



I think they would help their position and support by standing strong and refusing to pass poor legislation.



Could this be the last throes of the GOP-lite wing of the democratic party? (should that be encouraging?)



I once thought highly of the DLC and some of the conservative leaning mentality from some on the left but the world is such a different place now.



The bottom line is to keep working as hard as necessary for Barack and all down ticket dem's, local elections and more progressives in government. I used to rail against blind partisanship but I would welcome supremajorities in both the house and senate. Maybe new leadership - Reid, Pelosi and Hoyer need a break.



I thought Dodd has been one of the good guys on this - I hope it goes through too.



Even stripping the immunity - this bill is a stinker. Then again I personally do not believe the FISA court is legal but I can be a stick in the mud.





I could not agree with you more. I feel the same way. I was listenign to Randi, and I agree that the leadership is trying to cover thier asses.



This will not hold up in the supreme court. I want to go back to a time of bi partisanship, but now is not the time. we MUST elect new blood this fall.



Capt, and all of our members, I am so glad you are here. you all keep me sane.



NOW. for those that HAVE made the calls and emails, here -----------> :martini:

For those that haven't, the weekend is upon us, write those letters! This is not over!!!







Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 22:28:35
Well, many people say I suffer from insanity - I always assert I do not suffer at all - I enjoy my insanity!



But seriously - it does help so much to just be able to share - good and bad, serious

and humorous. I would suffer if I couldn't.





Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 22:34:09
Quote by capt:

I must have picked a bad week to quit barbituates . . .


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/473292408_f4b8fbfde3.jpg


Comment by capt on 06/20/2008 22:36:38
This is not over!!!




In politics it never is. It really matters more how we hold their feet to the fire almost as much as who is elected.



This is a new broadband world and people are more engaged in politics than I have ever seen - it is a thing of beauty. The fact that people are getting together and more vocal is a force of nature. Things are changing fast.



I have always been a bit of a cynic but coming off two Bush terms there IS a light at the end of a tunnel and it's not another train coming. (FISA or not)





Comment by Raine on 06/20/2008 23:22:51
Once again, McCain breaks federal law. (Hat tip to Americablog: )



A Canadian newspaper reported Thursday that Friday's scheduled $100-a-plate luncheon speech by Sen. John McCain in Ottowa was organized in part by U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins, a former South Carolina lawmaker whom President Bush appointed in 2005.



Democrats pointed out the article late Thursday night, and alleged that Wilkins's actions could be construed as a violation of the Hatch Act, which prohibits many kinds of political activities by government employees.



The article in the Edmonton Sun, and an earlier one in the Globe and Mail, says that Wilkins contacted Thomas d'Aquino, the president of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, to help set up what they described as a fundraiser before McCain's visit. McCain is scheduled to give a speech at the the Chateau Laurier Hotel and to meet with several Canadian officials.

==================================================



Now the key to all of this was that McCain's trip was paid for by his campaign, and he slammed Obama for NAFTA on canadian soil...





CBS reported on McCAin speech at the Economic Club of CANADA... THAT Canada.

Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2008 23:49:12
Quote by Raine:

Once again, McCain breaks federal law. (Hat tip to Americablog: )



A Canadian newspaper reported Thursday that Friday's scheduled $100-a-plate luncheon speech by Sen. John McCain in Ottowa was organized in part by U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins, a former South Carolina lawmaker whom President Bush appointed in 2005.



Democrats pointed out the article late Thursday night, and alleged that Wilkins's actions could be construed as a violation of the Hatch Act, which prohibits many kinds of political activities by government employees.



The article in the Edmonton Sun, and an earlier one in the Globe and Mail, says that Wilkins contacted Thomas d'Aquino, the president of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, to help set up what they described as a fundraiser before McCain's visit. McCain is scheduled to give a speech at the the Chateau Laurier Hotel and to meet with several Canadian officials.

==================================================



Now the key to all of this was that McCain's trip was paid for by his campaign, and he slammed Obama for NAFTA on canadian soil...





CBS reported on McCAin speech at the Economic Club of CANADA... THAT Canada.


I guess Prime Minister Harpo will put his nose in McCain's butt like he does Bush's. Since this is Canada's economic elite, there's a little news flash, NAFTA's not that popular in Canada either.



Either the Liberal Party has to get its act together or Canadians should seriously consider the NDP in the next election. The NDP gets screwed because the electios are the same simple majority like elections here with no IRV or proportional representation.

Comment by Raine on 06/21/2008 00:48:53
I gotta tell you, as far as Canada goes, they can deal with it whatever way they want. I really am not that concerned about Canada regarding this issue.



What bothers the hell out of me is what he (McSaim) is doing to our federal laws. The man needs to held accountable. Seriously, this is a BIG NO NO.

Comment by capt on 06/21/2008 01:06:07
Quote by Raine:

I gotta tell you, as far as Canada goes, they can deal with it whatever way they want. I really am not that concerned about Canada regarding this issue.



What bothers the hell out of me is what he (McSaim) is doing to our federal laws. The man needs to held accountable. Seriously, this is a BIG NO NO.






Chapter and verse - I couldn't agree more . . .

Comment by Raine on 06/21/2008 01:41:50
WAtching KO, "this is not FISA. this is CYA"





HE is correct. Our constitution is being sold out for a few Dems that are trying to save thier own asses. I have officially throwm away ANY support I ever had for Nancy Pelosi to be re-elected.



Steney too. I am done. They are just like the repugs at this point, putting themselves above the constitution and the laws of the land.







Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 01:43:31
It just seems weird that we already went through this with the whole thing during the Hillary-Obama campaign when Conservative Party ministers were putting their two cents in the campaign.

Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 01:44:50
Quote by Raine:

WAtching KO, "this is not FISA. this is CYA"





HE is correct. Our constitution is being sold out for a few Dems that are trying to save thier own asses. I have officially throwm away ANY support I ever had for Nancy Pelosi to be re-elected.



Steney too. I am done. They are just like the repugs at this point, putting themselves above the constitution and the laws of the land.







Cindy Sheehan for Congress.

Comment by capt on 06/21/2008 01:57:31
We all need to push for new leaders in the leadership slots.



Things are changing fast - Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid and the others that would vote for this might be cleaving themselves from the national support and notoriety they have enjoyed. We have to get some new faces that can work with President Obama - it will be enough of a challenge to fix anything.



The DINO's might be cutting their noses off in spite of their faces.



80% think we are headed in the wrong direction? That should have more than a few of the slugs very worried about their future.











Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 03:39:51
Got quiet here. I am all by my lonesome at work.

Comment by capt on 06/21/2008 03:58:39
Here pull on my finger . .

Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 04:17:55
Quote by capt:

Here pull on my finger . .


Like so.... :fart:

Comment by BobR on 06/21/2008 04:23:52
btw - Livin... don't know if you saw my earlier comment that I uploaded the DC pictures...

Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 04:27:11
Quote by BobR:

btw - Livin... don't know if you saw my earlier comment that I uploaded the DC pictures...


I did see the pictures. Some of them were quite amusing and not just Stan in Raine's hat. :D

Comment by BobR on 06/21/2008 04:34:32
Comment by capt on 06/21/2008 04:44:20
My better half sent me THIS early this morning.





Synchronicity - time warp zero?

Comment by BobR on 06/21/2008 04:51:34
Quote by capt:

My better half sent me THIS early this morning.





Synchronicity - time warp zero?


Stan - the official lurker of the FourFreedoms blog - took a test drive in one of them thar SmartCars. He was told he could order one and it would be delivered in one year. :shocked:



um... okay... I think I'll go check out the Prius while I'm waiting...



Comment by livingonli on 06/21/2008 05:50:44
Home at last.

Comment by Alex Hidell on 06/22/2008 23:36:32
We went to war for the oil companies access to what remains of the last large oil field in the world. The movie 'Three Days Of The Condor' shows what Hollywood thought would happen when the US plans to seize ME oil fields, the NYTimes was supposed to prevent it. Instead, in real life, the NYTimes assists and facilitated the War In Iraq. The war was over in a month and now it's all about "occupation". Permanent bases, when brought out in the open by the Quakers,



If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building 'permanent' bases?

http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm



This kind of information got the Quakers spied upon by the DoD,



Rumsfeld Spies on Quakers and Grannies

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1217-25.htm



since those bases matched the map of Iraqi oil fields in Cheney's Energy Task Force



Iraq Oil Map (c/o Judicial Watch)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/IraqOilMap.pdf