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Savage Disregard
Author: clintster
Date: 07/23/2008 12:29:05
A little over four years ago, my wife woke me up at 5 in the morning to tell me her water had broken, and it was time for our baby to be born. I got a few things together in a travel bag and we rushed to the hospital in our little town in Virginia. After 18 hours of labor, our son Ian made his debut in the world, and he was the most beautiful sight we had ever seen.
As our son grew, my wife and I suspected there was something different about him. Though he was developmentally ahead of other children his age in many areas, his speech and social skills seemed to fall farther and farther behind. He would have bursts of anger that would come from nowhere, and seemingly innocuous social interactions seemed to result in biting or hitting. We sought the help of our pediatrician, who advised us that in his opinion Ian had high-functioning autism. My wife and I were a bit stunned by the news, but made arrangements through the county to get him the help he (and we) needed through the school system.
Just as we were beginning this program, my wife got a job in Georgia, and we moved, finding we had to begin the certification/diagnosis process all over again. We went round and round with our school district over the best course of development for Ian, how much special education he needed, how he should be categorized, etc. The struggle has been long and frustrating, and although we parents, the school system, and our son have made some progress, there is still a long way to go before we all reach a satisfactory resolution.
In the meantime, we have met other people in our community, in our church, and in Ian’s daycare center who are doing what they can to make him feel more at ease with others and to have some sense of normalcy in his life. There are those around us who I feel don’t quite understand his condition, and who may even believe that his actions are actually the result of “bad parenting”, but they have at least had the decorum to not try and call us out.
Is this about to change, though? Late last week Michael Savage, on his radio show, said the following about autistics and their parents (courtesy Media Matters):
So many inflammatory statements, so little time. Where do I begin? Well, let’s go paragraph by paragraph. First, there is the comparison of the increase in diagnosed autism to the supposed increase in asthma cases in minority schoolchildren, which he describes as a “racket” to secure extra welfare and scholastic help. The asthma claim is an amazing one in and of itself. When one reads this article from the American Women’s Medical Association, however, one sees that asthma is a result of being on the public dole, rather than some far-fetched impetus. According to the conclusion:
Moving on to the next paragraph, we find Savage’s claim that an amazing 99% of autism cases are more behavioral than medical. Notice the choice of number. It basically allows Savage an out from his accusations and rhetoric. If a parent of an autistic were to personally confront him on the 99% figure, he could simply say, “Well, I didn’t mean it about your kid. I just meant the other 297,000 children; they’re all a bunch of brats.” He tried to worm his way out of his comments, but we’ll get back to that in a moment.
I have to take the last 2 ½ paragraphs as a whole. As the father of a high-functioning autistic, I have a little bit of experience in trying to deal with my son’s outbursts and inability to function in public, and I can tell you that shouting at an autistic child does not work. Again, we are dealing with a medical condition and NOT a behavior problem.
It is difficult to describe the feeling of telling your four-year old that he shouldn’t hit someone who enters his personal space over and over again, only to get a report from daycare that he has hit and/or bitten another child. To Ian’s credit, he has improved in this area in recent months, but it came as a result of constant work on our part as well as on the school system and the teachers at his daycare.
As to the implication that sensitivity to your child’s feelings somehow leads to “a nation of losers and beaten men”, let me just say that I know from personal experience that severe verbal and physical punishments are far more of a hindrance than a help. If Savage feels that his own father’s abusiveness was instrumental in making him the man that he is, then that’s his prerogative; however, I do not think it is an appropriate measure for children in general, autistic or not.
As you might imagine, Savage’s remarks got a bit of play on the internet, and several autism advocacy groups immediately took exception to his diagnosis and recommendation for “curing” autism. To that end, Michael Savage did the only thing he believed he should do. He attacked the messenger. He claimed that his remarks were taken out of context, but he stood by his remarks, that he wasn’t talking about all or even any autistics. He deigned to appear on CNN to be interviewed about the controversy by (of all people) Glenn Beck. There was even a defense of Savage on Renew America by columnist Selwyn Duke, with a screed entitled "Judgementally impared should get off Michael Savage's back". Thus the bully, his nose bloodied for his actions, now runs through the streets crying his victimhood.
I will say this. I don’t hate Michael Savage. I try not to “hate” anyone; it’s just my nature. In looking at those on the opposite end of the ideological spectrum, I have made it a point to find at least one good thing about them (which I may explore in another column, someday). With Savage it is this. I have actually found myself enjoying listening to him on the increasingly rare moments when he reminisces on his childhood and youth. In those moments, I wish that he would ditch the “Savage Nation” shtick and reinvent himself as a storyteller. I also give him grudging credit for breaking the story of the Dubai port deal of 2006; it may be the only time that most liberals found themselves in agreement with Savage on any position.
That said, I must say that his remarks on the 16th filled me with such contempt that I wished I could have faced him down to dare him to say those words to my face. Additionally, I can’t pretend that I don’t feel some sense of schadenfreude at the news that Savage has lost AFLAC as a national sponsor of his show, or that he has been thrown off the air on a number of Mississippi radio stations.
I believe in free speech, and I don’t believe that Michael Savage should be completely thrown off the air. BUT, I also believe that his right to flail at autistic children, and the parents who are doing everything they can to get treatment for those children, should not be met with silence and complacency. I especially do not believe that he should be paid for the purpose of attacking children. Is there a possibility of overdiagnosis? Maybe, but I tend to believe that the increase in autism cases is a result of pediatricians being better trained and equipped to diagnose the symptoms and seek treatment for the affected. I hope and pray that his words don’t make it a harder climb for my family, or the family of any other child with autism.
Savage, like so many of his conservative media brethren, labors under the assumption that they can act with immunity to the rules of civility. It is the right and duty of the general public to let Savage and his ilk know when they have crossed the line. Read up on autism, find out what real experts have to say about the spectrum of disorders, and let your local Savage affiliate know what's being said on their airwaves during "his" hours on the air.
Autism Speaks
Autism United
Autism Society of America
National Autism Association
As our son grew, my wife and I suspected there was something different about him. Though he was developmentally ahead of other children his age in many areas, his speech and social skills seemed to fall farther and farther behind. He would have bursts of anger that would come from nowhere, and seemingly innocuous social interactions seemed to result in biting or hitting. We sought the help of our pediatrician, who advised us that in his opinion Ian had high-functioning autism. My wife and I were a bit stunned by the news, but made arrangements through the county to get him the help he (and we) needed through the school system.
Just as we were beginning this program, my wife got a job in Georgia, and we moved, finding we had to begin the certification/diagnosis process all over again. We went round and round with our school district over the best course of development for Ian, how much special education he needed, how he should be categorized, etc. The struggle has been long and frustrating, and although we parents, the school system, and our son have made some progress, there is still a long way to go before we all reach a satisfactory resolution.
In the meantime, we have met other people in our community, in our church, and in Ian’s daycare center who are doing what they can to make him feel more at ease with others and to have some sense of normalcy in his life. There are those around us who I feel don’t quite understand his condition, and who may even believe that his actions are actually the result of “bad parenting”, but they have at least had the decorum to not try and call us out.
Is this about to change, though? Late last week Michael Savage, on his radio show, said the following about autistics and their parents (courtesy Media Matters):
“Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I'm not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], 'I don't know, the dust got me.' " See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.
What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."
Autism -- everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, "Don't behave like a fool." The worst thing he said -- "Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry." That's what I was raised with. That's what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You're turning your son into a girl, and you're turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That's why we have the politicians we have.”
So many inflammatory statements, so little time. Where do I begin? Well, let’s go paragraph by paragraph. First, there is the comparison of the increase in diagnosed autism to the supposed increase in asthma cases in minority schoolchildren, which he describes as a “racket” to secure extra welfare and scholastic help. The asthma claim is an amazing one in and of itself. When one reads this article from the American Women’s Medical Association, however, one sees that asthma is a result of being on the public dole, rather than some far-fetched impetus. According to the conclusion:
Children's asthma is associated with reduced parental employment among single parents and increased welfare receipt among single- and 2-parent families. These associations with children's asthma may have implications for policy makers interested in increasing employment and decreasing welfare use.
Moving on to the next paragraph, we find Savage’s claim that an amazing 99% of autism cases are more behavioral than medical. Notice the choice of number. It basically allows Savage an out from his accusations and rhetoric. If a parent of an autistic were to personally confront him on the 99% figure, he could simply say, “Well, I didn’t mean it about your kid. I just meant the other 297,000 children; they’re all a bunch of brats.” He tried to worm his way out of his comments, but we’ll get back to that in a moment.
I have to take the last 2 ½ paragraphs as a whole. As the father of a high-functioning autistic, I have a little bit of experience in trying to deal with my son’s outbursts and inability to function in public, and I can tell you that shouting at an autistic child does not work. Again, we are dealing with a medical condition and NOT a behavior problem.
It is difficult to describe the feeling of telling your four-year old that he shouldn’t hit someone who enters his personal space over and over again, only to get a report from daycare that he has hit and/or bitten another child. To Ian’s credit, he has improved in this area in recent months, but it came as a result of constant work on our part as well as on the school system and the teachers at his daycare.
As to the implication that sensitivity to your child’s feelings somehow leads to “a nation of losers and beaten men”, let me just say that I know from personal experience that severe verbal and physical punishments are far more of a hindrance than a help. If Savage feels that his own father’s abusiveness was instrumental in making him the man that he is, then that’s his prerogative; however, I do not think it is an appropriate measure for children in general, autistic or not.
As you might imagine, Savage’s remarks got a bit of play on the internet, and several autism advocacy groups immediately took exception to his diagnosis and recommendation for “curing” autism. To that end, Michael Savage did the only thing he believed he should do. He attacked the messenger. He claimed that his remarks were taken out of context, but he stood by his remarks, that he wasn’t talking about all or even any autistics. He deigned to appear on CNN to be interviewed about the controversy by (of all people) Glenn Beck. There was even a defense of Savage on Renew America by columnist Selwyn Duke, with a screed entitled "Judgementally impared should get off Michael Savage's back". Thus the bully, his nose bloodied for his actions, now runs through the streets crying his victimhood.
I will say this. I don’t hate Michael Savage. I try not to “hate” anyone; it’s just my nature. In looking at those on the opposite end of the ideological spectrum, I have made it a point to find at least one good thing about them (which I may explore in another column, someday). With Savage it is this. I have actually found myself enjoying listening to him on the increasingly rare moments when he reminisces on his childhood and youth. In those moments, I wish that he would ditch the “Savage Nation” shtick and reinvent himself as a storyteller. I also give him grudging credit for breaking the story of the Dubai port deal of 2006; it may be the only time that most liberals found themselves in agreement with Savage on any position.
That said, I must say that his remarks on the 16th filled me with such contempt that I wished I could have faced him down to dare him to say those words to my face. Additionally, I can’t pretend that I don’t feel some sense of schadenfreude at the news that Savage has lost AFLAC as a national sponsor of his show, or that he has been thrown off the air on a number of Mississippi radio stations.
I believe in free speech, and I don’t believe that Michael Savage should be completely thrown off the air. BUT, I also believe that his right to flail at autistic children, and the parents who are doing everything they can to get treatment for those children, should not be met with silence and complacency. I especially do not believe that he should be paid for the purpose of attacking children. Is there a possibility of overdiagnosis? Maybe, but I tend to believe that the increase in autism cases is a result of pediatricians being better trained and equipped to diagnose the symptoms and seek treatment for the affected. I hope and pray that his words don’t make it a harder climb for my family, or the family of any other child with autism.
Savage, like so many of his conservative media brethren, labors under the assumption that they can act with immunity to the rules of civility. It is the right and duty of the general public to let Savage and his ilk know when they have crossed the line. Read up on autism, find out what real experts have to say about the spectrum of disorders, and let your local Savage affiliate know what's being said on their airwaves during "his" hours on the air.
Autism Speaks
Autism United
Autism Society of America
National Autism Association
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Comment by 
capt on 07/23/2008 12:38:29
capt on 07/23/2008 12:38:29
Great post, very clear and concise.
Here is a little good news:
Savage Loses Advertisers
We have to stay on this Arse!
Here is a little good news:
Savage Loses Advertisers
We have to stay on this Arse!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:40:19
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:40:19
Morning all. Clint, great post. I called the local station that carries Savage Weiner's show. The PD called my back yesterday and left a message saying there is "clarification" of his comments. I will be calling them today while I am waiting for the roofer. It should be fun! I will post breaking developments as they happen.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:42:59
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:42:59
Great post clintster! When I was young autism was very rare, at least I'd not heard much about it. But nowadays............. it seems so prevalent.
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:46:01
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:46:01
And speaking of the media (Whiny and non-whiny) everyone saw this I assume!
I am writing a letter to CBS to complain. Here was a NEWS STORY dropped in their lap and they didn't run with it??
WTF??
I am writing a letter to CBS to complain. Here was a NEWS STORY dropped in their lap and they didn't run with it??
WTF??
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:51:26
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:51:26
I was just looking at the Facebooks and noticed in my birthday announcement that it is David Brock's birthday. Since his "homo fascist" organization, Media Matters is central to today's post, I give hive a blog shout out.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 12:51:36
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 12:51:36
Morning :hug:
Clint :hug
:hug:
Clint :hug
:hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:53:14
It got big play in Countdown last night. KO was all over that like white on rice, flies on poop, like a dirty tee shirt... umm outta gas. :shrug:
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 12:53:14
Quote by velveeta jones:
And speaking of the media (Whiny and non-whiny) everyone saw this I assume!
I am writing a letter to CBS to complain. Here was a NEWS STORY dropped in their lap and they didn't run with it??
WTF??
It got big play in Countdown last night. KO was all over that like white on rice, flies on poop, like a dirty tee shirt... umm outta gas. :shrug:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 12:54:06
In case anybody missed this?
Why does anybody trust the M$M?
capt on 07/23/2008 12:54:06
In case anybody missed this?
Why does anybody trust the M$M?
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:57:17
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 12:57:17
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 12:57:57
capt on 07/23/2008 12:57:57
I meant this one . . .
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/23/2008 13:02:33
TriSec on 07/23/2008 13:02:33
Morning, folks!
Well....I have no personal experience with autistic youth, but I am a Scout Leader. We see an awful lot of things at camp and other events. I try with my limited experience to make the scout hall a safe and reassuring place....but anyone out there who does this every day has much to tell us.
Well....I have no personal experience with autistic youth, but I am a Scout Leader. We see an awful lot of things at camp and other events. I try with my limited experience to make the scout hall a safe and reassuring place....but anyone out there who does this every day has much to tell us.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 13:06:36
capt on 07/23/2008 13:06:36
I have gotten to the point where I hate David Gregory with the heat of a million white hot suns.
Does anybody like this guy? (I don't mean personally I mean profressionally)
UGH!
Does anybody like this guy? (I don't mean personally I mean profressionally)
UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 13:09:04
capt on 07/23/2008 13:09:04
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:09:28
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:09:28
LOL
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:19:59
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:19:59
How is W qualified?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:20:33
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:20:33
Umm Jim, Reagan did serve. Special Services.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 13:22:36
capt on 07/23/2008 13:22:36
One reporter for McCain, reminds me of the waning days of HRC's campaign.
Seems McCain should be careful what he asks for, eh?
Seems McCain should be careful what he asks for, eh?
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:27:05
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:27:05
MONDO!!! 
Comment by 
clintster on 07/23/2008 13:27:10
clintster on 07/23/2008 13:27:10
Mondo! Woo-hoooo!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:27:27
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:27:27
Mondo!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:34:37
I am with Ms. on this one. I don't know enough about it, necessarily...however, I think of late there is an overwhelmingly rapid move to medicate/diagnosis kids with Autism, ADD, ADHD, etc.
My concern is always that the children who really need the help, get it. And, it makes it difficult when there are seemingly a lot parents who are too quick to assert that their child has a "problem."
Not all parents Clinster!! Not all...at all.... Some kids really do need professional/medical help.
It's just been my observation. . . I was in the education system for a few years during college.
Clintster, I am going to check out those links you posted.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:34:37
Quote by velveeta jones:
Great post clintster! When I was young autism was very rare, at least I'd not heard much about it. But nowadays............. it seems so prevalent.
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
I am with Ms.
on this one. I don't know enough about it, necessarily...however, I think of late there is an overwhelmingly rapid move to medicate/diagnosis kids with Autism, ADD, ADHD, etc. My concern is always that the children who really need the help, get it. And, it makes it difficult when there are seemingly a lot parents who are too quick to assert that their child has a "problem."
Not all parents Clinster!! Not all...at all.... Some kids really do need professional/medical help.
It's just been my observation. . . I was in the education system for a few years during college.
Clintster, I am going to check out those links you posted.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:36:47
He's a sell-out.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:36:47
Quote by capt:
I have gotten to the point where I hate David Gregory with the heat of a million white hot suns.
Does anybody like this guy? (I don't mean personally I mean profressionally)
UGH!
He's a sell-out.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:50:09
I have 3 younger cousins, all in school, the oldest and the youngest have been "diagnosed" with some kind of learning disability. The middle kid has always done really well in school until this year when he had some run in's with a teacher who his older borther had, he didn't like and I think the teacher didn't like him, anyway this teacher kept saying he should be tested like his other 2 siblings. The principal, the home room teacher, all his other teachers, and his parents thought he was fine and thought testing would be unnescessary.
Sometimes I think that some teachers jump too soon to say there is something wrong with a kid instead of looking to see if there isn't something wrong in the way they are teaching a kid.
just my .02
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:50:09
Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Great post clintster! When I was young autism was very rare, at least I'd not heard much about it. But nowadays............. it seems so prevalent.
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
I am with Ms.
My concern is always that the children who really need the help, get it. And, it makes it difficult when there are seemingly a lot parents who are too quick to assert that their child has a "problem."
Not all parents Clinster!! Not all...at all.... Some kids really do need professional/medical help.
It's just been my observation. . . I was in the education system for a few years during college.
Clintster, I am going to check out those links you posted.
I have 3 younger cousins, all in school, the oldest and the youngest have been "diagnosed" with some kind of learning disability. The middle kid has always done really well in school until this year when he had some run in's with a teacher who his older borther had, he didn't like and I think the teacher didn't like him, anyway this teacher kept saying he should be tested like his other 2 siblings. The principal, the home room teacher, all his other teachers, and his parents thought he was fine and thought testing would be unnescessary.
Sometimes I think that some teachers jump too soon to say there is something wrong with a kid instead of looking to see if there isn't something wrong in the way they are teaching a kid.
just my .02
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:52:31
Yes, that was my point too exactly.
I was a student teacher in an inner city school system. . . and it was always "OH, he is a behavior problem." " Or, she is slow to learn." Etc, etc, etc.
Really? Because when I sit with him and give him 1 on 1 help and he actually is engaged in his task, his "Behavior Problem" doesn't exist. MAYBE HE'S BORED WITH YOUR LACKLUSTER TEACHING STYLE!!!
:thud:
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:52:31
Quote by wickedpam:
I have 3 younger cousins, all in school, the oldest and the youngest have been "diagnosed" with some kind of learning disability. The middle kid has always done really well in school until this year when he had some run in's with a teacher who his older borther had, he didn't like and I think the teacher didn't like him, anyway this teacher kept saying he should be tested like his other 2 siblings. The principal, the home room teacher, all his other teachers, and his parents thought he was fine and thought testing would be unnescessary.
Sometimes I think that some teachers jump too soon to say there is something wrong with a kid instead of looking to see if there isn't something wrong in the way they are teaching a kid.
just my .02
Yes, that was my point too exactly.
I was a student teacher in an inner city school system. . . and it was always "OH, he is a behavior problem." " Or, she is slow to learn." Etc, etc, etc.
Really? Because when I sit with him and give him 1 on 1 help and he actually is engaged in his task, his "Behavior Problem" doesn't exist. MAYBE HE'S BORED WITH YOUR LACKLUSTER TEACHING STYLE!!!
:thud:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:54:20
VJ, I take the opposite opinion. There is nothing in the environment/drugs causing autism. Since it is a spectrum disorder, there are more diagnoses on the spectrum. Hence, statistical increase in autism. Skeptical Inquierer did a great article on this very subject.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:54:20
Quote by velveeta jones:
Great post clintster! When I was young autism was very rare, at least I'd not heard much about it. But nowadays............. it seems so prevalent.
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
VJ, I take the opposite opinion. There is nothing in the environment/drugs causing autism. Since it is a spectrum disorder, there are more diagnoses on the spectrum. Hence, statistical increase in autism. Skeptical Inquierer did a great article on this very subject.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:55:27
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:55:27
Nancy Pelosi is a Liberal? 
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:56:01
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:56:01
Harry Reid liberal? 
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:56:58
Great minds think alike, as they say.
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 13:56:58
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:
I have 3 younger cousins, all in school, the oldest and the youngest have been "diagnosed" with some kind of learning disability. The middle kid has always done really well in school until this year when he had some run in's with a teacher who his older borther had, he didn't like and I think the teacher didn't like him, anyway this teacher kept saying he should be tested like his other 2 siblings. The principal, the home room teacher, all his other teachers, and his parents thought he was fine and thought testing would be unnescessary.
Sometimes I think that some teachers jump too soon to say there is something wrong with a kid instead of looking to see if there isn't something wrong in the way they are teaching a kid.
just my .02
Yes, that was my point too exactly.
I was a student teacher in an inner city school system. . . and it was always "OH, he is a behavior problem." " Or, she is slow to learn." Etc, etc, etc.
Really? Because when I sit with him and give him 1 on 1 help and he actually is engaged in his task, his "Behavior Problem" doesn't exist. MAYBE HE'S BORED WITH YOUR LACKLUSTER TEACHING STYLE!!!
:thud:
Great minds think alike, as they say.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:57:15
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:57:15
Sean, do you mean coreographed, like getting on an Aircraft Carrier in a flight suit and hanging a GIANT banner that says "Mission Accomplished" in front of a mass of smiling, applauding troops? Is that what you meant Sean?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 13:57:36
capt on 07/23/2008 13:57:36
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:58:38
Of course she's from San Francisco! We all know that West Bay has been ethnically cleansed of all Republicans.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 13:58:38
Quote by starling310:
Nancy Pelosi is a Liberal?
Of course she's from San Francisco! We all know that West Bay has been ethnically cleansed of all Republicans.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:59:20
starling310 on 07/23/2008 13:59:20
It is weird how you can tell a Freeper by the way they say "Hi." They always sound so put out that they've wasted their time calling a radio show for no other reason than to whine.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:01:21
Nice try Capt, but children's vaccines are single use and are preserved with thimerisol any more. Not since about 2000. I suggest you read the article I linked in my post.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:01:21
Quote by capt:
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
Nice try Capt, but children's vaccines are single use and are preserved with thimerisol any more. Not since about 2000. I suggest you read the article I linked in my post.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:03:20
This is another thing...vaccines. Again, virtue lies in the middle. There are some that are necessary. But, I look at some parents today who may as well wrap their kid in anti-microbial bubble wrap when they leave the house.
When I was a kid there was no Anti-Bacterial soap. There were Flinstone Vitamins. That was your safeguard against the big, bad world. We got dirty. We wiped our noses on our sleeves. We got skinned knees. We got the Chicken Pox! It was a right of passage. But, we were never really that sick.
Maybe....just maybe....it's just a theory....if you expose your kids to some germs that won't constantly be sick!!!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:03:20
Quote by capt:
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
This is another thing...vaccines. Again, virtue lies in the middle. There are some that are necessary. But, I look at some parents today who may as well wrap their kid in anti-microbial bubble wrap when they leave the house.
When I was a kid there was no Anti-Bacterial soap. There were Flinstone Vitamins. That was your safeguard against the big, bad world. We got dirty. We wiped our noses on our sleeves. We got skinned knees. We got the Chicken Pox! It was a right of passage. But, we were never really that sick.
Maybe....just maybe....it's just a theory....if you expose your kids to some germs that won't constantly be sick!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:07:12
Indeed! :checks Modern Jackass archives: There have been some research about this, when kids eat dirt, they have more robust immune systems.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:07:12
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
This is another thing...vaccines. Again, virtue lies in the middle. There are some that are necessary. But, I look at some parents today who may as well wrap their kid in anti-microbial bubble wrap when they leave the house.
When I was a kid there was no Anti-Bacterial soap. There were Flinstone Vitamins. That was your safeguard against the big, bad world. We got dirty. We wiped our noses on our sleeves. We got skinned knees. We got the Chicken Pox! It was a right of passage. But, we were never really that sick.
Maybe....just maybe....it's just a theory....if you expose your kids to some germs that won't constantly be sick!!!
Indeed! :checks Modern Jackass archives: There have been some research about this, when kids eat dirt, they have more robust immune systems.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:10:24
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:10:24
And, yet these people call those questioning 9/11 crazy. 
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 14:10:41
"Ya gotta eat a pound of dirt before you die."
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 14:10:41
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
This is another thing...vaccines. Again, virtue lies in the middle. There are some that are necessary. But, I look at some parents today who may as well wrap their kid in anti-microbial bubble wrap when they leave the house.
When I was a kid there was no Anti-Bacterial soap. There were Flinstone Vitamins. That was your safeguard against the big, bad world. We got dirty. We wiped our noses on our sleeves. We got skinned knees. We got the Chicken Pox! It was a right of passage. But, we were never really that sick.
Maybe....just maybe....it's just a theory....if you expose your kids to some germs that won't constantly be sick!!!
Indeed! :checks Modern Jackass archives: There have been some research about this, when kids eat dirt, they have more robust immune systems.
"Ya gotta eat a pound of dirt before you die."
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:12:55
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:12:55
Oh yeah now that I am getting cranked up this leads me to a another point; the deplorable state of science education in this country! People just don't know shit from Shineola when it comes to basic things like germ theory or selective pressure. When you slather every inch of you house with some form of antimicrobial goo, you are causing the most fit microbes to survive. You know that whole Darwin thing.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:14:18
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:14:18
What is this, Jim's letter to Penthouse Forum? :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:15:52
It's true!
There were tumbleweed dust balls in my Mom's house! No asthma here.
However..........
My Nephew's mother and her husband smoke in their house and that makes me want to :: olympia dukakis :: "Kick 'em until their dead."
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:15:52
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Thimerisol is made with mercury.
Can't convince me mercury in the vaccines is okay. Not even statictically.
FWIW
This is another thing...vaccines. Again, virtue lies in the middle. There are some that are necessary. But, I look at some parents today who may as well wrap their kid in anti-microbial bubble wrap when they leave the house.
When I was a kid there was no Anti-Bacterial soap. There were Flinstone Vitamins. That was your safeguard against the big, bad world. We got dirty. We wiped our noses on our sleeves. We got skinned knees. We got the Chicken Pox! It was a right of passage. But, we were never really that sick.
Maybe....just maybe....it's just a theory....if you expose your kids to some germs that won't constantly be sick!!!
Indeed! :checks Modern Jackass archives: There have been some research about this, when kids eat dirt, they have more robust immune systems.
It's true!
There were tumbleweed dust balls in my Mom's house! No asthma here.
However..........
My Nephew's mother and her husband smoke in their house and that makes me want to :: olympia dukakis :: "Kick 'em until their dead."
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:16:23
capt on 07/23/2008 14:16:23
Mondo,
No, my friend I was right, thimerisol is bad, it was in vaccines., it has mercury in it.
They no longer use it because it is bad. My post didn't address any other subject, not autism, not other spectrum disorders not current vaccines preservatives. I did read that piece. No reason to condescend.
WTF is with the "nice try?" I wasn't trying anything, just a little comment about thimerisol having mercury in it.
That was all I posted - are you reading something into my post I didn't put there?
No, my friend I was right, thimerisol is bad, it was in vaccines., it has mercury in it.
They no longer use it because it is bad. My post didn't address any other subject, not autism, not other spectrum disorders not current vaccines preservatives. I did read that piece. No reason to condescend.
WTF is with the "nice try?" I wasn't trying anything, just a little comment about thimerisol having mercury in it.
That was all I posted - are you reading something into my post I didn't put there?
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:23:45
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:23:45
My SMS stream CRASHED!!
Thank God for Chicago! :clap:
Thank God for Chicago! :clap:
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:24:39
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:24:39
Good morning everyone.
I made a pig of myself last night after not eating much the whole day and as a result I didn't sleep too well. I figured I get myself going with a little Momma and then head out to enjoy myself. And a lot of time at the pool. I will need some sunscreen.
I made a pig of myself last night after not eating much the whole day and as a result I didn't sleep too well. I figured I get myself going with a little Momma and then head out to enjoy myself. And a lot of time at the pool. I will need some sunscreen.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:25:20
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:25:20
I'm listening to Momma on my XM.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:25:21
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:25:21
I am proud ( and slightly ashamed ) to say that I just made my first contribution to Barack Obama!
And, I signed up for Text updates. It appeals to my "Text-A-Holic" side.
And, I signed up for Text updates. It appeals to my "Text-A-Holic" side.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:27:43
That is my being my snotty self. Sorry Capt. No offense intended.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:27:43
Quote by capt:
Mondo,
No, my friend I was right, thimerisol is bad, it was in vaccines., it has mercury in it.
They no longer use it because it is bad. My post didn't address any other subject, not autism, not other spectrum disorders not current vaccines preservatives. I did read that piece. No reason to condescend.
WTF is with the "nice try?" I wasn't trying anything, just a little comment about thimerisol having mercury in it.
That was all I posted - are you reading something into my post I didn't put there?
That is my being my snotty self. Sorry Capt. No offense intended.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:28:55
capt on 07/23/2008 14:28:55
Sadly, the recommendation is no thimerisol in vaccines for 6 years and under the drug companies have been left to police themselves and so the correction is far from complete. They use it is the flu shots. UGH!
Between the mercury from burning fossil fuels and coal - mercury is going up in the air and water. Mercury sucks!
Thimerosal Content in Some US Licensed Vaccines
Between the mercury from burning fossil fuels and coal - mercury is going up in the air and water. Mercury sucks!
Thimerosal Content in Some US Licensed Vaccines
Comment by 
Raine on 07/23/2008 14:30:40
Raine on 07/23/2008 14:30:40
Good morning. 
Clinster, amazing entry this morning. Thank you so much.
Clinster, amazing entry this morning. Thank you so much.
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 14:31:18
clintster on 07/23/2008 14:31:18
Anybody seen Raine-o and Bobber this morning?
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:32:39
thanks for the read. Very interesting!
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:32:39
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by velveeta jones:
Great post clintster! When I was young autism was very rare, at least I'd not heard much about it. But nowadays............. it seems so prevalent.
My personal belief is that there is some environmental and/or drug(s) reactions that are causing this outbreak in autism. But then, honestly, I haven't studied it that much. I get most of my info from my friend (and yours if you are on the MB) Undercover.
All I know is I now know more than a handful of people with autistic children! Its way too many!!
VJ, I take the opposite opinion. There is nothing in the environment/drugs causing autism. Since it is a spectrum disorder, there are more diagnoses on the spectrum. Hence, statistical increase in autism. Skeptical Inquierer did a great article on this very subject.
thanks for the read. Very interesting!
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 14:33:11
clintster on 07/23/2008 14:33:11
Ah, and there you are! Mornin' Raine!!!
Comment by 
BobR on 07/23/2008 14:33:11
BobR on 07/23/2008 14:33:11
morning folks... :coffee:
Another morning sleeping late, although I don't feel as sick as I did yesterday.
Great post Clintster!
Another morning sleeping late, although I don't feel as sick as I did yesterday.
Great post Clintster!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:34:25
You have to win some $$$ too! I've been sending the best vibes for that especially so . . . Enjoy the poolside and don't get over heated~!
capt on 07/23/2008 14:34:25
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.
I made a pig of myself last night after not eating much the whole day and as a result I didn't sleep too well. I figured I get myself going with a little Momma and then head out to enjoy myself. And a lot of time at the pool. I will need some sunscreen.
You have to win some $$$ too! I've been sending the best vibes for that especially so . . . Enjoy the poolside and don't get over heated~!
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 14:34:38
clintster on 07/23/2008 14:34:38
And Bob. All I had to do was ask. Mornin' guys! 
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:36:25
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:36:25
So it is Sanchez, time for me to call the dude at the savage wiener station.
Sanchez, that pronounced Mhat-dee not Mighty.
Sanchez, that pronounced Mhat-dee not Mighty.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:37:41
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:37:41
Steph? An elitist?
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 14:38:06
BobR on 07/23/2008 14:38:06
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:38:29
Three cheers for BobR!!
Hip-hip hooray!
Hip-hip hooray!
Hip-hip hooray!
All of your work is GREATLY appreciated. I thank you!
capt on 07/23/2008 14:38:29
Quote by BobR:
In case anyone missed it from last night: New blog feature
Three cheers for BobR!!
Hip-hip hooray!
Hip-hip hooray!
Hip-hip hooray!
All of your work is GREATLY appreciated. I thank you!
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:38:45
I guess Jake's shack collapsed again.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:38:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
So it is Sanchez, time for me to call the dude at the savage wiener station.
Sanchez, that pronounced Mhat-dee not Mighty.
I guess Jake's shack collapsed again.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:39:37
Sounds like they want to impose a fairness doctrine on the NY Times.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:39:37
Quote by BobR:
House Republicans trying to get McCain's editorial into the NY Times
:rage:
Sounds like they want to impose a fairness doctrine on the NY Times.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 14:40:57
WE are up and sorta going!
Heya Clint!
Your story hs been dugg, and I have it up on my facebook wall. Amazing this morning, you did a wonderful job.
Raine on 07/23/2008 14:40:57
Quote by clintster:
Anybody seen Raine-o and Bobber this morning?
Heya Clint!
Your story hs been dugg, and I have it up on my facebook wall. Amazing this morning, you did a wonderful job.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:41:26
I think they should print it as is with the * Victory is not defined!
It is a piece of crap and doesn't touch the Barack piece if you compare them. Printing as is would be mean - again the GOPhers are BLOWING it - he should just rewrite it but they would rather have the bad one published?
(I think?)
capt on 07/23/2008 14:41:26
Quote by BobR:
House Republicans trying to get McCain's editorial into the NY Times
:rage:
I think they should print it as is with the * Victory is not defined!
It is a piece of crap and doesn't touch the Barack piece if you compare them. Printing as is would be mean - again the GOPhers are BLOWING it - he should just rewrite it but they would rather have the bad one published?
(I think?)
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:41:34
I've already used them to good effect, Bobber! I have the polls hidden now. Spiffy! You rawk, Bobber!
:clap:
Dunno iffn you saw last night, but we posted the same YouTube clip, the "Every Sperm is Sacred" from Meaning of Life
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:41:34
Quote by BobR:
In case anyone missed it from last night: New blog feature
I've already used them to good effect, Bobber! I have the polls hidden now. Spiffy! You rawk, Bobber!
:clap:Dunno iffn you saw last night, but we posted the same YouTube clip, the "Every Sperm is Sacred" from Meaning of Life
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:43:15
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:43:15
The PD is out of his office, I left a message. I wonder when he will call? :sigh:
This just in, I am still waiting for the roofer to call back. Again...
This just in, I am still waiting for the roofer to call back. Again...
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:43:44
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 14:43:44
I am writing a letter to CBS. They should be called on the floor for this "scrubbing" of news.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Can you imagine being handed a news story (McCain doesn't know his ass from his hat) and NOT running it?? I am still DUMBFOUNDED over this!!
Imagine having an attack on our nation and showing an infomercial for a Chuck Norris Total Gym™ product!!
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Can you imagine being handed a news story (McCain doesn't know his ass from his hat) and NOT running it?? I am still DUMBFOUNDED over this!!
Imagine having an attack on our nation and showing an infomercial for a Chuck Norris Total Gym™ product!!
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:45:40
With the way some channels are run, I actually wouldn't be surprised.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:45:40
Quote by velveeta jones:
I am writing a letter to CBS. They should be called on the floor for this "scrubbing" of news.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Can you imagine being handed a news story (McCain doesn't know his ass from his hat) and NOT running it?? I am still DUMBFOUNDED over this!!
Imagine having an attack on our nation and showing an infomercial for a Chuck Norris Total Gym™ product!!
With the way some channels are run, I actually wouldn't be surprised.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:46:12
capt on 07/23/2008 14:46:12
If I were captured, I have no doubt I would "give it up" - the idea that a person should endure torture is crazy. I mean I wouldn't say anything that would get any on our side killed but I would SING like a song bird LONG before they caused me pain.
I do not hold any of that against any POW - unless it can be proved the info given up got someone killed.
McCain is not a good candidate for too many good reasons that have nothing to do with "giving it up" as a POW.
Just sayin. . .
I do not hold any of that against any POW - unless it can be proved the info given up got someone killed.
McCain is not a good candidate for too many good reasons that have nothing to do with "giving it up" as a POW.
Just sayin. . .
Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:47:19
TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:47:19
Hello again.....just chiming in on the vaccine thing.
Most of you know that young Javier was born on the island of Luzon in the Philppines. (we adopted him at age 7 months).
Being unwanted by his birth mother, and spending the first few months of his life in an orphanage resulted in very fragmentary medical records from Manila. We don't know what (if any) vaccines he may have received there, so his pediatrician recommended the full treatment once we got him to the US.
This was before I really knew much about thimerisol (2002) and despite it being banned from 2000, I can't help but think that the more I learn about it, the more we may have dodged a bullet. There is a possibility (however slight) that Javi got 'double vaccinated' for some things.
Most of you know that young Javier was born on the island of Luzon in the Philppines. (we adopted him at age 7 months).
Being unwanted by his birth mother, and spending the first few months of his life in an orphanage resulted in very fragmentary medical records from Manila. We don't know what (if any) vaccines he may have received there, so his pediatrician recommended the full treatment once we got him to the US.
This was before I really knew much about thimerisol (2002) and despite it being banned from 2000, I can't help but think that the more I learn about it, the more we may have dodged a bullet. There is a possibility (however slight) that Javi got 'double vaccinated' for some things.
Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:48:44
TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:48:44
Oh, and I see liv lurking around...nice flight yesterday?
Thanks for letting me track you! :bow:
Thanks for letting me track you! :bow:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:49:50
capt on 07/23/2008 14:49:50
Obama IS already leading - now where have I heard that before?
Oh yeah, HERE!
You peeps all ROCK the BLOCK!
*High fives* all around!
Oh yeah, HERE!
You peeps all ROCK the BLOCK!
*High fives* all around!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:50:44
The tracking was WAY cool! I loved it. (not sure why)
capt on 07/23/2008 14:50:44
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and I see liv lurking around...nice flight yesterday?
Thanks for letting me track you! :bow:
The tracking was WAY cool! I loved it. (not sure why)
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:52:40
Agreed.
And, talking about it weakens our point that we have the better candidate. Period.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:52:40
Quote by capt:
If I were captured, I have no doubt I would "give it up" - the idea that a person should endure torture is crazy. I mean I wouldn't say anything that would get any on our side killed but I would SING like a song bird LONG before they caused me pain.
I do not hold any of that against any POW - unless it can be proved the info given up got someone killed.
McCain is not a good candidate for too many good reasons that have nothing to do with "giving it up" as a POW.
Just sayin. . .
Agreed.
And, talking about it weakens our point that we have the better candidate. Period.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 14:52:55
Raine on 07/23/2008 14:52:55
I hate waking up this late in the morning , on a weekday...
CBS needs to be called out on what they did yesterday. Velveeta, (and others,) did you get a chance to see/read the interview Katie did with Obama?
CBS needs to be called out on what they did yesterday. Velveeta, (and others,) did you get a chance to see/read the interview Katie did with Obama?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:53:21
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:53:21
Thank you caller!!! I said the same thing a couple weeks ago.
Barack's use of "War on Terror" makes me nervous.
Barack's use of "War on Terror" makes me nervous.
Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:53:58
TriSec on 07/23/2008 14:53:58
And another thing, the weatherman actually said the "T" word this morning....
Which would be tornado. We've been having some wicked thunderstorms around here for weeks....much more intense and violent than usual. But you can't tell anyone that it might be related to climate change, right?
Anyway....I'm keeping a wary eye to the skies and the radars today.
(Western bloggers preparing to mock us skittish New Englanders would do well to look up the Worcester Tornado (circa 1953) first...) :peace:
Which would be tornado. We've been having some wicked thunderstorms around here for weeks....much more intense and violent than usual. But you can't tell anyone that it might be related to climate change, right?
Anyway....I'm keeping a wary eye to the skies and the radars today.
(Western bloggers preparing to mock us skittish New Englanders would do well to look up the Worcester Tornado (circa 1953) first...) :peace:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:54:04
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:54:04
Wow good point, but rant-y. Nice job caller dude.
Nice job caller dude.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:54:07
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:54:07
Global War on Terror is a Right Wing talking point. We need to cease using it.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 14:55:08
capt on 07/23/2008 14:55:08
Caller is right.
I don't care who the politician is - all of them need to have their feet held to the fire. They will always tend to take the path of least resistence, we have to be there to block and redirect them on the right path.
All of them, all the time. That is the only way the rights of the people can be represented - by us not them - we have to make them do the right thing.
I don't care who the politician is - all of them need to have their feet held to the fire. They will always tend to take the path of least resistence, we have to be there to block and redirect them on the right path.
All of them, all the time. That is the only way the rights of the people can be represented - by us not them - we have to make them do the right thing.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:56:12
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:56:12
The "Global War on Terror" used to be called the FBI Most Wanted List. That's how it should be. We need to stop declaring ENTIRE countries evil.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:57:31
Not to make you worry or anything, Tri, but Javi if he was vaccinated in Luzon for anything, I am willing to bet the vaccines were preserved with you-know-what.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:57:31
Quote by TriSec:
Hello again.....just chiming in on the vaccine thing.
Most of you know that young Javier was born on the island of Luzon in the Philppines. (we adopted him at age 7 months).
Being unwanted by his birth mother, and spending the first few months of his life in an orphanage resulted in very fragmentary medical records from Manila. We don't know what (if any) vaccines he may have received there, so his pediatrician recommended the full treatment once we got him to the US.
This was before I really knew much about thimerisol (2002) and despite it being banned from 2000, I can't help but think that the more I learn about it, the more we may have dodged a bullet. There is a possibility (however slight) that Javi got 'double vaccinated' for some things.
Not to make you worry or anything, Tri, but Javi if he was vaccinated in Luzon for anything, I am willing to bet the vaccines were preserved with you-know-what.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:57:59
starling310 on 07/23/2008 14:57:59
So that's what applauding zombies sound like.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:58:18
Not too bad. It was a little bumpy getting into Vegas I felt like I was riding that small plane into the Grand Canyon.
My only other beef was with the XM reception losing the Left talk channel so I couldn't listen to the end of Steph.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:58:18
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and I see liv lurking around...nice flight yesterday?
Thanks for letting me track you! :bow:
Not too bad. It was a little bumpy getting into Vegas I felt like I was riding that small plane into the Grand Canyon.
My only other beef was with the XM reception losing the Left talk channel so I couldn't listen to the end of Steph.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:59:14
Didn't we remove N. Korea from the "Axis of Evil?"
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 14:59:14
Quote by starling310:
The "Global War on Terror" used to be called the FBI Most Wanted List. That's how it should be. We need to stop declaring ENTIRE countries evil.
Didn't we remove N. Korea from the "Axis of Evil?"
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:59:32
GWOT! GWOT! GWOT!
livingonli on 07/23/2008 14:59:32
Quote by starling310:
Global War on Terror is a Right Wing talking point. We need to cease using it.
GWOT! GWOT! GWOT!
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:01:01
Chimpy did do that. It looks like diplomacy does work better than saber rattling which flies in the face of right-wingers who think everything can be solved with violence like in John Wayne, Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal, or Ahnold's films.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:01:01
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:
The "Global War on Terror" used to be called the FBI Most Wanted List. That's how it should be. We need to stop declaring ENTIRE countries evil.
Didn't we remove N. Korea from the "Axis of Evil?"
Chimpy did do that. It looks like diplomacy does work better than saber rattling which flies in the face of right-wingers who think everything can be solved with violence like in John Wayne, Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal, or Ahnold's films.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 15:01:24
No I have not, but would I believe them now? Hell NO!!
BTW: I just LOVE Joy Behar as the guest host on Larry King. She almost made Elisabeth Hasselbeck cry last night!
:lol: :clap:
velveeta jones on 07/23/2008 15:01:24
Quote by Raine:
I hate waking up this late in the morning , on a weekday...
CBS needs to be called out on what they did yesterday. Velveeta, (and others,) did you get a chance to see/read the interview Katie did with Obama?
No I have not, but would I believe them now? Hell NO!!
BTW: I just LOVE Joy Behar as the guest host on Larry King. She almost made Elisabeth Hasselbeck cry last night!
:lol: :clap:
Comment by 
Random on 07/23/2008 15:02:16
Random on 07/23/2008 15:02:16
Hola Blog
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:04:39
We must have. Condi is there today. Were they still in the "Axis" that would make her a big latte drinking, namby pamby, peacenick, appeaser.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:04:39
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:
The "Global War on Terror" used to be called the FBI Most Wanted List. That's how it should be. We need to stop declaring ENTIRE countries evil.
Didn't we remove N. Korea from the "Axis of Evil?"
We must have. Condi is there today. Were they still in the "Axis" that would make her a big latte drinking, namby pamby, peacenick, appeaser.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:05:35
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:05:35
I am just really sick of the Cowboy Foreign Policy. And, Barack's use of terms coined by the warmonger NeoCons makes me nervous.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:08:38
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:08:38
McCain is REALLY getting desprate.
Yup, he accused Obama of Flip flopping on the HOLOCUAST --- While he was visiting a Holocaust Museum.
Yup, he accused Obama of Flip flopping on the HOLOCUAST --- While he was visiting a Holocaust Museum.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:09:20
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:09:20
Good morning Random. All hail.
What's up?
What's up?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:10:01
Lizzy has been doing a lot of crying lately.
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:10:01
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
I hate waking up this late in the morning , on a weekday...
CBS needs to be called out on what they did yesterday. Velveeta, (and others,) did you get a chance to see/read the interview Katie did with Obama?
No I have not, but would I believe them now? Hell NO!!
BTW: I just LOVE Joy Behar as the guest host on Larry King. She almost made Elisabeth Hasselbeck cry last night!
:lol: :clap:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:11:06
A neighbor of mine back in the 2004 election had a hand made yard sign that said, "Yeeeeehaaaaaw is Not a Foreign Policy."
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:11:06
Quote by starling310:
I am just really sick of the Cowboy Foreign Policy. And, Barack's use of terms coined by the warmonger NeoCons makes me nervous.
A neighbor of mine back in the 2004 election had a hand made yard sign that said, "Yeeeeehaaaaaw is Not a Foreign Policy."
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:11:50
capt on 07/23/2008 15:11:50
It is time for a grown-up to take the helm. Gramps is WAY too thin skinned and everybody (even the GOP) sees that.
I swear by all that is holy - I bet McCain actually wants Barack to win. Seems like he is in the jealous man-crush phase of the mucho macho male on male competition thing. Give gramps a little credit, he doesn't really want the job or the campaign, his heart is just not in it.
I swear by all that is holy - I bet McCain actually wants Barack to win. Seems like he is in the jealous man-crush phase of the mucho macho male on male competition thing. Give gramps a little credit, he doesn't really want the job or the campaign, his heart is just not in it.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:12:29
capt on 07/23/2008 15:12:29
All hail Random™
:bow:™
:bow:™
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:13:35
Alright, bored. A little disappointed that Bobby Jindal is in our poll for McCain VP. I want him to be VP...Just because he's the funniest next to Crist, but i can poke fun at Crist for as long as i please cause he's our lovable bathroom stall gov.
Random on 07/23/2008 15:13:35
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning Random. All hail.
What's up?
Alright, bored. A little disappointed that Bobby Jindal is in our poll for McCain VP. I want him to be VP...Just because he's the funniest next to Crist, but i can poke fun at Crist for as long as i please cause he's our lovable bathroom stall gov.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:14:28
Cheesus Christ on Toast Points and a Crutch. I've said it before and I will say it again, McCain is going to have his ass pounded. And not in a good way.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:14:28
Quote by Raine:
McCain is REALLY getting desprate.
Yup, he accused Obama of Flip flopping on the HOLOCUAST --- While he was visiting a Holocaust Museum.
Cheesus Christ on Toast Points and a Crutch. I've said it before and I will say it again, McCain is going to have his ass pounded. And not in a good way.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:15:37
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:15:37
I will use my special ass powers. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:15:47
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:15:47
Quote by capt:
All hail Random™
:bow:™
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:17:52
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:17:52
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:18:17
capt on 07/23/2008 15:18:17
War is also not foreign policy. "Do as we say or we will bomb you until you do" hasn't worked in about 50 years so I think it is time to take "war" off the proverbial table.
I am hoping (call me naive) that Barack will go after Osama and the lot - get them and get us the heck out of all "combat" situations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I am hoping (call me naive) that Barack will go after Osama and the lot - get them and get us the heck out of all "combat" situations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:20:27
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:20:27
So, John MCCain has been whining about all the coverage Obama has been getting, saying how unfair it is...
I turned on my TV, and see that Hurricane Dolly is now a biggie on the News cycle... will he cry to the National Weather service saying how unfair it is that Dolly is getting all the good press?
I turned on my TV, and see that Hurricane Dolly is now a biggie on the News cycle... will he cry to the National Weather service saying how unfair it is that Dolly is getting all the good press?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:23:55
Liv is actually Mango?
Mango
capt on 07/23/2008 15:23:55
Quote by livingonli:
I will use my special ass powers.
Liv is actually Mango?
Mango
"Can you know the mighty ocean? Can you lasso a star from the sky? Can you say to a rainbow... 'Hey, stop being a rainbow for a second'? No! Such is Mango!" Mango was also shown in one skit to have a wife and child, and always ended his skits by telling his admirer, "You can't-a have-a de Mango!" and slapping his own buttocks.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:24:49
I wouldn't say Dolly is getting good press, buy yeah I can see Grampy complaining about it. One wonders why he is canceling his press conference for the week.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:24:49
Quote by Raine:
So, John MCCain has been whining about all the coverage Obama has been getting, saying how unfair it is...
I turned on my TV, and see that Hurricane Dolly is now a biggie on the News cycle... will he cry to the National Weather service saying how unfair it is that Dolly is getting all the good press?
I wouldn't say Dolly is getting good press, buy yeah I can see Grampy complaining about it. One wonders why he is canceling his press conference for the week.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 15:27:08
Use those ass powers out on the casino floor and at the slots :p
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 15:27:08
Quote by livingonli:
I will use my special ass powers.
Use those ass powers out on the casino floor and at the slots :p
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:27:37
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:27:37
:: bea arthur :: MA!
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 15:28:12
the weather has a liberal bias :cry:
:rofl:
BobR on 07/23/2008 15:28:12
Quote by Raine:
So, John MCCain has been whining about all the coverage Obama has been getting, saying how unfair it is...
I turned on my TV, and see that Hurricane Dolly is now a biggie on the News cycle... will he cry to the National Weather service saying how unfair it is that Dolly is getting all the good press?
the weather has a liberal bias :cry:
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:29:09
:violin:
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:29:09
Quote by Raine:
So, John MCCain has been whining about all the coverage Obama has been getting, saying how unfair it is...
I turned on my TV, and see that Hurricane Dolly is now a biggie on the News cycle... will he cry to the National Weather service saying how unfair it is that Dolly is getting all the good press?
:violin:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:29:10
capt on 07/23/2008 15:29:10
EVERYTHING except the hardcore Reich-wingnuttia has a liberal bias.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:30:02
Everything to the left of John Hagee is too liberal.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:30:02
Quote by capt:
EVERYTHING except the hardcore Reich-wingnuttia has a liberal bias.
Everything to the left of John Hagee is too liberal.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:35:24
capt on 07/23/2008 15:35:24
McCain cancelled his presser - had to schedule a nap and diaper change. . .
*skates off to the penalty box*
*skates off to the penalty box*
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:37:06
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:37:06
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!! 
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:38:21
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:38:21
Iraq is trying to break up with us. They are trying to let us down gently. Listen, Iraq isn't the only fish in the sea. We'll meet someone else. We should move on; give them their space.
Maybe some day we can be friends.
Maybe some day we can be friends.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:40:35
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:40:35
Barack is gonna bounce, ya'll!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:42:24
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:42:24
I love how Politicians think that staying in Iraq as an "advisor," or a "trainer" isn't as bad..."We know you haven't seen your family in 4 years, but you won't be taking enemy fire anymore. Isn't that better?"
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:42:55
Watch for the state polls - the national polls are complete BS (unless we change to popular vote) the election will be won state by state and THAT is already very encouraging. Kinda like the delegate race in the primary the electors are all that matters in the general. Barack has the ground forces going and the 50 state plan.
capt on 07/23/2008 15:42:55
Quote by starling310:
Barack is gonna bounce, ya'll!
Watch for the state polls - the national polls are complete BS (unless we change to popular vote) the election will be won state by state and THAT is already very encouraging. Kinda like the delegate race in the primary the electors are all that matters in the general. Barack has the ground forces going and the 50 state plan.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:43:03
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:43:03
Oh my Vishnu! Please make it Bobby Jindel! 
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:44:03
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:44:03
Romney probably would help keep the corporatists in line since they need their wealthy contributors if the fundamentalist base chooses to stay home this year.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:45:31
...I should know who that is...
Random on 07/23/2008 15:45:31
Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:46:20
Bobby Jindel would be great.
Random on 07/23/2008 15:46:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh my Vishnu! Please make it Bobby Jindel!
Bobby Jindel would be great.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:46:22
Mr. Homer, will you please stop Mr. Flanders from trying to convert me?
Oh, yeah, where's your super being now?
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:46:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh my Vishnu! Please make it Bobby Jindel!
Mr. Homer, will you please stop Mr. Flanders from trying to convert me?
Oh, yeah, where's your super being now?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:47:01
Nah...it may make you throw up in your mouth a little bit.
He likes to be pretty explicit about his love for Momma.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:47:01
Quote by Random:Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Nah...it may make you throw up in your mouth a little bit.
He likes to be pretty explicit about his love for Momma.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:47:06
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:47:06
on hold....
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:47:21
Kevin from DC. The sexed-up caller from hell.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:47:21
Quote by Random:Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Kevin from DC. The sexed-up caller from hell.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:47:41
capt on 07/23/2008 15:47:41
Here is a cover via the Seattle paper:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:47:58
That is at best a 2 minute minor. No where near as awful as the stuff about Bush and Condi that was in my thought bubble. :fights to get image of Condi in Dominatrix gear whipping Bush in French maid outfit back into the black basement of my brain: Oh there are much worse things in there than that. Trust me. There I said it Bush is Condi's submissive, sissy bitch. :joins Capt in penalty box:
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:47:58
Quote by capt:
McCain cancelled his presser - had to schedule a nap and diaper change. . .
*skates off to the penalty box*
That is at best a 2 minute minor. No where near as awful as the stuff about Bush and Condi that was in my thought bubble. :fights to get image of Condi in Dominatrix gear whipping Bush in French maid outfit back into the black basement of my brain: Oh there are much worse things in there than that. Trust me. There I said it Bush is Condi's submissive, sissy bitch. :joins Capt in penalty box:
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 15:49:18
They're just not that into us.
clintster on 07/23/2008 15:49:18
Quote by starling310:
Iraq is trying to break up with us. They are trying to let us down gently. Listen, Iraq isn't the only fish in the sea. We'll meet someone else. We should move on; give them their space.
Maybe some day we can be friends.
They're just not that into us.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:50:07
Ohh, right, Kevin in DC...For some reason i was confusing him with Donnie...
I miss Donnie.
Random on 07/23/2008 15:50:07
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Kevin from DC. The sexed-up caller from hell.
Ohh, right, Kevin in DC...For some reason i was confusing him with Donnie...
I miss Donnie.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:51:35
capt on 07/23/2008 15:51:35
Barbara:
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:51:42
I guess once Hillary's campaign was done, he wasn't getting paid to troll on the Live Blog anymore. Adela from Orlando continues the shenanigans on her own blog.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:51:42
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Kevin from DC. The sexed-up caller from hell.
Ohh, right, Kevin in DC...For some reason i was confusing him with Donnie...
I miss Donnie.
I guess once Hillary's campaign was done, he wasn't getting paid to troll on the Live Blog anymore. Adela from Orlando continues the shenanigans on her own blog.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:51:55
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:51:55
A descendant of which one of his illegitimate children?
Oh Chris you scamp with the
joke comment about Franklin. :rofl:
Oh Chris you scamp with the
joke comment about Franklin. :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:52:33
"It's not us. It's them."
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:52:33
Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:
Iraq is trying to break up with us. They are trying to let us down gently. Listen, Iraq isn't the only fish in the sea. We'll meet someone else. We should move on; give them their space.
Maybe some day we can be friends.
They're just not that into us.
"It's not us. It's them."
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:52:33
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:52:33
Raine.
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 15:53:09
clintster on 07/23/2008 15:53:09
Woo-hoo!! RAINE!!!
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:53:11
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:53:11
I missed Mondo's call but I heard Raine.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 15:53:25
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 15:53:25
Raine!
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:53:55
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:53:55
I wouldn't even use the NY Post as a pooper-scooper or a birdcage liner.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:54:12
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 15:54:12
Raine! 4F representin' on SMS! :flashes gang signs: Boyyyyzzzz.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:54:20
We always think that but we all know it is really us, we live in backwards world so . .
capt on 07/23/2008 15:54:20
Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:
Iraq is trying to break up with us. They are trying to let us down gently. Listen, Iraq isn't the only fish in the sea. We'll meet someone else. We should move on; give them their space.
Maybe some day we can be friends.
They're just not that into us.
"It's not us. It's them."
We always think that but we all know it is really us, we live in backwards world so . .
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:54:32
Well, I had gotten real good at imitating Donnie. I wanted him to come back and play against him.
Random on 07/23/2008 15:54:32
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by starling310:
OH NO! NOT KEVIN!!!!
...I should know who that is...
Kevin from DC. The sexed-up caller from hell.
Ohh, right, Kevin in DC...For some reason i was confusing him with Donnie...
I miss Donnie.
I guess once Hillary's campaign was done, he wasn't getting paid to troll on the Live Blog anymore. Adela from Orlando continues the shenanigans on her own blog.
Well, I had gotten real good at imitating Donnie. I wanted him to come back and play against him.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:55:07
starling310 on 07/23/2008 15:55:07
RAINE!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:55:46
100% !!
No doubt.
(why are there no upper and lower case numbers? hmmmm)
capt on 07/23/2008 15:55:46
Quote by livingonli:
I wouldn't even use the NY Post as a pooper-scooper or a birdcage liner.
100% !!
No doubt.
(why are there no upper and lower case numbers? hmmmm)
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 15:56:34
Raine on 07/23/2008 15:56:34
:rofl: Chris!!!!
I was wondering how babs would be able to get into a smart car...
I was wondering how babs would be able to get into a smart car...
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:56:42
livingonli on 07/23/2008 15:56:42
Toby Keith coming to Mandalay Bay. :puke:
I hope they still don't have Tony Danza doing The Producers like last year.
I hope they still don't have Tony Danza doing The Producers like last year.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 15:56:49
I swear - you fooled me, it was too close almost a little creepy . .but cool just the same.
capt on 07/23/2008 15:56:49
Quote by Random:
Well, I had gotten real good at imitating Donnie. I wanted him to come back and play against him.
I swear - you fooled me, it was too close almost a little creepy . .but cool just the same.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 15:59:24
Not all of the Pretenders were me, (I think i was the best one though) I had my name link to hcsfjm.com. It was fun...Would have loved to have made everyone think the real donnie was an imposter.
Random on 07/23/2008 15:59:24
Quote by capt:
I swear - you fooled me, it was too close almost a little creepy . .but cool just the same.
Not all of the Pretenders were me, (I think i was the best one though) I had my name link to hcsfjm.com. It was fun...Would have loved to have made everyone think the real donnie was an imposter.
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 16:00:53
It's not U.S. - it's them...
BobR on 07/23/2008 16:00:53
Quote by starling310:
"It's not us. It's them."
It's not U.S. - it's them...
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:01:27
capt on 07/23/2008 16:01:27
WOW - lived here 20 months and just had our first power outage - only about a minute but . .
That always reminds me I should have an electric generator - turn off the grid and the world stops for me. . .
That always reminds me I should have an electric generator - turn off the grid and the world stops for me. . .
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 16:02:33
Random on 07/23/2008 16:02:33
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:03:44
capt on 07/23/2008 16:03:44
It is not up to the US president where another country has any city or city designation. I wish Barack would stop that line.
We can only serve as an honest and objective broker of peace if we are not prejudiced.
UGH!
We can only serve as an honest and objective broker of peace if we are not prejudiced.
UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:04:23
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
capt on 07/23/2008 16:04:23
Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:07:24
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:07:24
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
"It's not us. It's them."
It's not U.S. - it's them...
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 16:09:55
livingonli on 07/23/2008 16:09:55
OK, time to go take my shower and go have breakfast. I will probably spend most of the afternoon at the pool so I will need to get some sunscreen. My sunscreen that I had got mushed. 
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:15:37
capt on 07/23/2008 16:15:37
Ed Schultz will have someone on today re: getting Savage fired.
FWIW
FWIW
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:17:32
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:17:32
Amen Thom. So right!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:20:24
Wadd I miss?
capt on 07/23/2008 16:20:24
Quote by starling310:
Amen Thom. So right!
Wadd I miss?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:21:07
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:21:07
Hi Faye!
Hi Stan!
Izzy!
I miss anyone that isn't present today?
MGM!
Hi Stan!
Izzy!
I miss anyone that isn't present today?
MGM!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:22:40
The gradual progression of the Invasion of our Privacy, the presumption of Guilt, and the similarities between the environment today and the rise of Nazi Germany.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:22:40
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:
Amen Thom. So right!
Wadd I miss?
The gradual progression of the Invasion of our Privacy, the presumption of Guilt, and the similarities between the environment today and the rise of Nazi Germany.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 16:23:35
Interesting... keep us filled in Capt. I am gonna stick with thom... and search around the internets for more info, unless you got somrthing for us.
What is this news? The prince of Darkness hit a person with his Black Corvette?
Raine on 07/23/2008 16:23:35
Quote by capt:
Ed Schultz will have someone on today re: getting Savage fired.
FWIW
Interesting... keep us filled in Capt. I am gonna stick with thom... and search around the internets for more info, unless you got somrthing for us.
What is this news? The prince of Darkness hit a person with his Black Corvette?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:24:13
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:24:13
Thom is reporting Bob Novak has been arrested for hitting a Pedestrian whilst driving? I can't find anything. . .
Anybody hear about this?
Anybody hear about this?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:25:08
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:25:08
I found a story about it, but it's locked up my browser.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:25:24
capt on 07/23/2008 16:25:24
I have a pal that works in the building where Novak was deposed by Fitzgerald. One Novak was pale - almost green and my friend thinks he smelled of alcohol (at about 10am)
Novak almost hit Ed Schultz too (according to Ed).
Novak almost hit Ed Schultz too (according to Ed).
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 16:27:53
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 16:27:53
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:28:32
I listen to Thom on NovaM online but when I go smoke in the garage the local station runs Thom later - after the Ed Shultz show. So I get bits and pieces.
capt on 07/23/2008 16:28:32
Quote by Raine:Quote by capt:
Ed Schultz will have someone on today re: getting Savage fired.
FWIW
Interesting... keep us filled in Capt. I am gonna stick with thom... and search around the internets for more info, unless you got somrthing for us.
What is this news? The prince of Darkness hit a person with his Black Corvette?
I listen to Thom on NovaM online but when I go smoke in the garage the local station runs Thom later - after the Ed Shultz show. So I get bits and pieces.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:28:34
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:28:34
YAY THOM!!! Great subject for today.
God, I love him.
God, I love him.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:30:17
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:30:17
Wish I could call Thom, but I am at work. :: pouting ::
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 16:33:04
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 16:33:04
David Bono {Let's here it for the boy} good on him for chasing Novack down on his bike!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:33:17
capt on 07/23/2008 16:33:17
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 16:33:22
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
Random on 07/23/2008 16:33:22
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:37:42
I want you to come in so we are on the same frequency.
capt on 07/23/2008 16:37:42
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
I want you to come in so we are on the same frequency.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 16:42:16
Raine on 07/23/2008 16:42:16
So WHY was Novak Not arrested???
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 16:44:08
Raine on 07/23/2008 16:44:08
Vincent Bugliosi is going up to testify on capitol Hill on July 25th!!!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:45:04
GO Vinny the B!
capt on 07/23/2008 16:45:04
Quote by Raine:
Vincent Bugliosi is going up to testify on capitol Hill on July 25th!!!
GO Vinny the B!
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 16:46:39
You keep saying that...*eyes suspicously*
Random on 07/23/2008 16:46:39
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
I want you to come in so we are on the same frequency.
You keep saying that...*eyes suspicously*
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:49:08
capt on 07/23/2008 16:49:08
Joy travels to San Bruno fairly often and gets the "secondary" search - they always feel her up. She HATES it but the travel is for the job, she can't say no.
UGH!
How many "terrorists" have they stopped by secondary searches? ZERO.
Why do we do it? Because the TSA has to have a reason to be there?
AAARRRGGGHHH!
UGH!
How many "terrorists" have they stopped by secondary searches? ZERO.
Why do we do it? Because the TSA has to have a reason to be there?
AAARRRGGGHHH!
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 16:50:09
Silly! You can't arrest the living dead.
clintster on 07/23/2008 16:50:09
Quote by Raine:
So WHY was Novak Not arrested???
Silly! You can't arrest the living dead.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:50:13
capt on 07/23/2008 16:50:13
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
I want you to come in so we are on the same frequency.
You keep saying that...*eyes suspicously*
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:51:01
GOOD ONE
capt on 07/23/2008 16:51:01
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
So WHY was Novak Not arrested???
Silly! You can't arrest the living dead.
GOOD ONE
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 16:52:30
I think you hit the reason before..."Feel her up" TSA is looking to feel up people.
Random on 07/23/2008 16:52:30
Quote by capt:
Joy travels to San Bruno fairly often and gets the "secondary" search - they always feel her up. She HATES it but the travel is for the job, she can't say no.
UGH!
How many "terrorists" have they stopped by secondary searches? ZERO.
Why do we do it? Because the TSA has to have a reason to be there?
AAARRRGGGHHH!
I think you hit the reason before..."Feel her up" TSA is looking to feel up people.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 16:54:55
knew it!
Random on 07/23/2008 16:54:55
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Hm...Random will be back shortly...Miss you all.
Miss you more! - HURRY back!
Now Capt, i've told you before, I will not go out with you.
I want you to come in so we are on the same frequency.
You keep saying that...*eyes suspicously*
knew it!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:58:07
capt on 07/23/2008 16:58:07
From an ACLU email and petition:
This sounds so outrageous, it seems like a joke or something out of "The Onion."
Attorney General Michael Mukasey is demanding that Congress issue a new declaration of war so that anyone that this president or the next one declares to be an "enemy combatant" can be held indefinitely without a trial.
The new declaration of war would make the entire globe — including the United States itself — a “battlefield” where the president decides who will be locked up forever.
With only five weeks left in the Congressional schedule and only six months left in the Bush presidency, Mukasey’s ridiculous power grab should be laughed out of town. But given this Congress’ track record, the Mukasey proposal is no laughing matter. Especially because it also includes a cover-up of the Bush administration’s systemic torture and abuse of detainees.
We can’t take for granted that Congress will reject this outrageous proposal. We have to meet it with an immediate wall of protest that says to Congress: “Don’t you dare.”
I just told my members of Congress to reject the dangerous Bush/Mukasey plan. You can do the same thing here:
http://action.aclu.org/mukasey
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 16:58:37
clintster on 07/23/2008 16:58:37
Terry Jeffrey? Yaaay!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:58:42
starling310 on 07/23/2008 16:58:42
Terry Jeffries weekly ass whoopin' coming up!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 16:59:15
capt on 07/23/2008 16:59:15
The sad thing is - the bums that shouldn't be thrown out are a short list and we all know the names.
THAT is a sad commentary on politics in America. :(
THAT is a sad commentary on politics in America. :(
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:02:32
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:02:32
Regarding language in the Fannie Mae Bail Out Bill. . . From OpenMarket.org, of all places!
. . ."In language virtually indentical to that in the Senate bill that passed earlier this month, the House bill — which I received via e-mail but could not find online — requires any “loan originator” to “furnish” to the newly created Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System and Registry “information concerning the applicant’s identity, including fingerprints,” that will be sent to the FBI and other government agencies. “Loan originator” is defined broadly as anyone who “takes a residential loan application; and offers or negotiates terms of a residential mortgage loan for compensation or gain.” Real estate agents are also covered if they receive any type of compensation from “originators.”. . .
Continue
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:09:03
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:09:03
Yay Terry!!! Good on ya. And, I'll even give ya one of these
And, I'll even give ya one of these
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:09:41
capt on 07/23/2008 17:09:41
Di Fi - always the worst D in the group - She should be smoted (smited)?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 17:11:52
Raine on 07/23/2008 17:11:52
Quote by starling310:
Terry Jeffries weekly ass whoopin' coming up!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:12:04
capt on 07/23/2008 17:12:04
The Natives forgot to deed the land to themselves - those pesky details.
Had they created deeds for all their land . . . . :sarcasm:
Had they created deeds for all their land . . . . :sarcasm:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:13:40
FAIR ENOUGH!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:13:40
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Terry Jeffries weekly ass whoopin' coming up!
FAIR ENOUGH!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 17:14:14
:doh:
:P
Raine on 07/23/2008 17:14:14
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
So WHY was Novak Not arrested???
Silly! You can't arrest the living dead.
:P
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:14:49
capt on 07/23/2008 17:14:49
Deregulation is the problem not the solution. . .
The government has to regulate.
The government has to regulate.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:14:57
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:14:57
Big Thunder here in CT.
Makes me want to give in to Big Sleep.
Makes me want to give in to Big Sleep.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:16:00
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:16:00
Wouldn't it be crazy if Thom and Terry talk for years and then Terry comes to the light?!?!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 17:16:15
Raine on 07/23/2008 17:16:15
Seems to me, that Fanny and Freddy -- when they were PRIVATIZED was when things went screwy.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:16:37
capt on 07/23/2008 17:16:37
If the government wasn't involved the banks would have already sucked us all dry, just look at where we are now?
Grrrrrrr
Grrrrrrr
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:19:15
capt on 07/23/2008 17:19:15
Government functions once "privatized" service the same function but as a private corporation they are required by law to turn a profit. The function is the same just the costs increase.
Guess who pays the difference?
Add a few CEO, COO, CFO and board member salaries and POOF! it costs twice what it cost when it was a governmental function.
Guess who pays the difference?
Add a few CEO, COO, CFO and board member salaries and POOF! it costs twice what it cost when it was a governmental function.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:19:31
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:19:31
:: thom asks terry to stick around ::
What the world needs now
Is love. Sweet Love.
It's the only thing
That there's just too little of.
What the world needs now. . .
Thom ------> <--------- Terry
Awww.....
What the world needs now
Is love. Sweet Love.
It's the only thing
That there's just too little of.
What the world needs now. . .
Thom ------>
<--------- Terry Awww.....
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:37:42
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:37:42
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 17:38:45
True. Cosmetic surgery is way more important than a house. We should bail them out.
Random on 07/23/2008 17:38:45
Quote by starling310:
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
True. Cosmetic surgery is way more important than a house. We should bail them out.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:39:50
I think Thom means the idea that was sold is buy more become worth more and you can afford more (i.e. cosmetic surgery).
Back to one of my pet peeves - mass media manipulation.
UGH!
capt on 07/23/2008 17:39:50
Quote by starling310:
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
I think Thom means the idea that was sold is buy more become worth more and you can afford more (i.e. cosmetic surgery).
Back to one of my pet peeves - mass media manipulation.
UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:41:58
capt on 07/23/2008 17:41:58
If Fanny and Freddie made bad investments with other peoples money they should fail.
Like Bears & Sterns - I think we have to let them fail, if it causes trouble for everybody so what? THEY FAILED? Am I missing something here?
Like Bears & Sterns - I think we have to let them fail, if it causes trouble for everybody so what? THEY FAILED? Am I missing something here?
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:48:31
Oh, yes. I got his point. I just like to keep a distinction there, because the wRights like to lump all "Personal Responsibility" together.
There is mass media manipulation. We have to try and recognize and not fall victim.
I don't want to live in a "Victim Society" either, ya know? "But, the women on TV made me get bigger boobs." Umm...no, you made that choice.
I see your point Capt. I absolutely do. But, when it comes to products and frivilous purchases, we've got to accept the responsibility there.
For example, everyone who ran out and spent $600 on the first iPhone and then complained about the issues they had with it, etc. I think a phone that expensive should work flawlessly and make me coffee in the morning. But, I know it won't. And, I wonder why others don't.
I'm rambling and maybe sound like a judgemental prick. I just want to stress the distinction between someone who is disappointed with their new fancy phone and someone that got manipulated into a mortgage that didn't fit.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:48:31
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
I think Thom means the idea that was sold is buy more become worth more and you can afford more (i.e. cosmetic surgery).
Back to one of my pet peeves - mass media manipulation.
UGH!
Oh, yes. I got his point. I just like to keep a distinction there, because the wRights like to lump all "Personal Responsibility" together.
There is mass media manipulation. We have to try and recognize and not fall victim.
I don't want to live in a "Victim Society" either, ya know? "But, the women on TV made me get bigger boobs." Umm...no, you made that choice.
I see your point Capt. I absolutely do. But, when it comes to products and frivilous purchases, we've got to accept the responsibility there.
For example, everyone who ran out and spent $600 on the first iPhone and then complained about the issues they had with it, etc. I think a phone that expensive should work flawlessly and make me coffee in the morning. But, I know it won't. And, I wonder why others don't.
I'm rambling and maybe sound like a judgemental prick. I just want to stress the distinction between someone who is disappointed with their new fancy phone and someone that got manipulated into a mortgage that didn't fit.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 17:54:07
Oh we do agree on all points. Your post being more specific and better explained.
capt on 07/23/2008 17:54:07
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
I think Thom means the idea that was sold is buy more become worth more and you can afford more (i.e. cosmetic surgery).
Back to one of my pet peeves - mass media manipulation.
UGH!
Oh, yes. I got his point. I just like to keep a distinction there, because the wRights like to lump all "Personal Responsibility" together.
There is mass media manipulation. We have to try and recognize and not fall victim.
I don't want to live in a "Victim Society" either, ya know? "But, the women on TV made me get bigger boobs." Umm...no, you made that choice.
I see your point Capt. I absolutely do. But, when it comes to products and frivilous purchases, we've got to accept the responsibility there.
For example, everyone who ran out and spent $600 on the first iPhone and then complained about the issues they had with it, etc. I think a phone that expensive should work flawlessly and make me coffee in the morning. But, I know it won't. And, I wonder why others don't.
I'm rambling and maybe sound like a judgemental prick. I just want to stress the distinction between someone who is disappointed with their new fancy phone and someone that got manipulated into a mortgage that didn't fit.
Oh we do agree on all points. Your post being more specific and better explained.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:57:38
Yeah, I mean, I am in debt. And, I suppose I could "blame" the Credit Companies...their terms are confusing. They solicited me starting in college.
BUT, I did choose to use them. And, now I have to pay it.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 17:57:38
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:
Ummm...someone who bought more house than they can afford is a wee bit different than someone who goes into debt because of cosmetic surgery.
I think Thom means the idea that was sold is buy more become worth more and you can afford more (i.e. cosmetic surgery).
Back to one of my pet peeves - mass media manipulation.
UGH!
Oh, yes. I got his point. I just like to keep a distinction there, because the wRights like to lump all "Personal Responsibility" together.
There is mass media manipulation. We have to try and recognize and not fall victim.
I don't want to live in a "Victim Society" either, ya know? "But, the women on TV made me get bigger boobs." Umm...no, you made that choice.
I see your point Capt. I absolutely do. But, when it comes to products and frivilous purchases, we've got to accept the responsibility there.
For example, everyone who ran out and spent $600 on the first iPhone and then complained about the issues they had with it, etc. I think a phone that expensive should work flawlessly and make me coffee in the morning. But, I know it won't. And, I wonder why others don't.
I'm rambling and maybe sound like a judgemental prick. I just want to stress the distinction between someone who is disappointed with their new fancy phone and someone that got manipulated into a mortgage that didn't fit.
Oh we do agree on all points. Your point being more specific and better explained.
Yeah, I mean, I am in debt. And, I suppose I could "blame" the Credit Companies...their terms are confusing. They solicited me starting in college.
BUT, I did choose to use them. And, now I have to pay it.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:04:46
capt on 07/23/2008 18:04:46
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:08:08
capt on 07/23/2008 18:08:08
Will McCain Make Exorcism a Campaign Issue?
David Corn is on the Bobby Jindal express!
McCain might name Jindal to try for the Fundagelicals . .
I hope so. It will be a field day for these here internets!
David Corn is on the Bobby Jindal express!
McCain might name Jindal to try for the Fundagelicals . .
I hope so. It will be a field day for these here internets!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:15:20
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:15:20
Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:16:38
capt on 07/23/2008 18:16:38
It's just human. We all have the jungle inside of us. We all have wants and needs and desires, strange as they may seem. If you stop to think about it, we're all pretty creative, cooking up all these fantasies. it's like a kind of poetry.
~ Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider, Northern Exposure, Mister Sandman, 1994
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:22:19
You're in much better shape than we were at that age.
capt on 07/23/2008 18:22:19
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
You're in much better shape than we were at that age.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:24:28
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:24:28
Harumph! A day wasted, raining no roofer for me today Oh for a week with no rain!
All my paperwork is done, I have my loan, school starts August 25th! : excited:
Now, onto important political stuff. I head on the NPR hourly news thing McCain saying that Bush's executive order opening offshore drilling caused the price of oil to drop 17 bucks a barrel last week. News flash for ya Senator, the price of oil was already dropping when Bush signed the order. Could it be those pesky economic principles that you don't get say like a drop in demand has pushed the price down? That is the macroeconomic that is in the first semester of the class. The other reason could have something to do with people getting out of the oil markets since they won their bets on the price oil, i.e. speculators have taken their profits on their positions and left the market. Ask Phil Gramm about that he can explain to you dumbass.
Oh the dumbass front I come to notion that John McCain is one. Yeah he is a dumb ass. And the people running his campaign are dumb asses too. Seriously stupid. They let McCain get near hot mikes and say idiot stuff like I mentioned above. Them seem to live in a world where there aren't blogger, YouTube and the 24-hour news cycle. They seem to think every stupid, sexist, and boorish comment won't come back to haunt McCain. These are some seriously stupid people here. Just dumb.
Oh for a week with no rain! All my paperwork is done, I have my loan, school starts August 25th! : excited:
Now, onto important political stuff. I head on the NPR hourly news thing McCain saying that Bush's executive order opening offshore drilling caused the price of oil to drop 17 bucks a barrel last week. News flash for ya Senator, the price of oil was already dropping when Bush signed the order. Could it be those pesky economic principles that you don't get say like a drop in demand has pushed the price down? That is the macroeconomic that is in the first semester of the class. The other reason could have something to do with people getting out of the oil markets since they won their bets on the price oil, i.e. speculators have taken their profits on their positions and left the market. Ask Phil Gramm about that he can explain to you dumbass.
Oh the dumbass front I come to notion that John McCain is one. Yeah he is a dumb ass. And the people running his campaign are dumb asses too. Seriously stupid. They let McCain get near hot mikes and say idiot stuff like I mentioned above. Them seem to live in a world where there aren't blogger, YouTube and the 24-hour news cycle. They seem to think every stupid, sexist, and boorish comment won't come back to haunt McCain. These are some seriously stupid people here. Just dumb.
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 18:25:55
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 18:25:55
Good Afternoon Everybody,
Thanks for the shout out Starling right back atcha 
I've got the cough/sore throat/respiratory infection that has been going around the liberry crew, so I completely missed Steph this morning - thank goodness for the StephCast. Everybody else who's had this thing has had to go to the doctor for anti-biotics, but I hate to take anti-biotics (there are very few I can take anyway, 'cause I'm allergic to penicillin and sulfa 
). Anyway, I heard a great interview with Janis Ian on the radio while I was drifting in and out of consciousness - she has a new book out - "Society's Child." Sounds interesting... That's all for me today - gonna head back to bed...
Carry on, kids
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
Thanks for the shout out Starling
right back atcha I've got the cough/sore throat/respiratory infection that has been going around the liberry crew, so I completely missed Steph this morning - thank goodness for the StephCast. Everybody else who's had this thing has had to go to the doctor for anti-biotics, but I hate to take anti-biotics (there are very few I can take anyway, 'cause I'm allergic to penicillin and sulfa ). Anyway, I heard a great interview with Janis Ian on the radio while I was drifting in and out of consciousness - she has a new book out - "Society's Child." Sounds interesting... That's all for me today - gonna head back to bed...Carry on, kids
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 18:26:16
Raine on 07/23/2008 18:26:16
::: burp :::
Forget BLT's, I recommend BLAT's...
Add some fresh avacado... it is divine.
Forget BLT's, I recommend BLAT's...
Add some fresh avacado... it is divine.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:26:36
Yeah, I can't wait to be out from under it!
I will be teaching my kids about financial responsibility from the time they are old enough to know what a Dollar is!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:26:36
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
You're in much better shape than we were at that age.
Yeah, I can't wait to be out from under it!
I will be teaching my kids about financial responsibility from the time they are old enough to know what a Dollar is!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:26:49
capt on 07/23/2008 18:26:49
Joe Klein usually gobbles gristled groin members of Equus asinus but he is right about McCain.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:28:01
:drool:
Deeeelicious!
I will take mine as a LAT! Lettuce, Avacado and Tomato...with some Cream Cheese.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:28:01
Quote by Raine:
::: burp :::
Forget BLT's, I recommend BLAT's...
Add some fresh avacado... it is divine.
:drool:
Deeeelicious!
I will take mine as a LAT! Lettuce, Avacado and Tomato...with some Cream Cheese.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:32:10
Avocadoes are a very fatty nut - high carbs - bad for you.
Easy for me, I lived in a house with a giant avocado tree and ate them until I hate them. Joybles loves 'em.
"Hold the guacamole"
capt on 07/23/2008 18:32:10
Avocadoes are a very fatty nut - high carbs - bad for you.
Easy for me, I lived in a house with a giant avocado tree and ate them until I hate them. Joybles loves 'em.
"Hold the guacamole"
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:33:08
Raine, Freddy and Fanny have always been public companies, government backed though. Since they hold together something over half of all the mortgages in the country, them going belly up would be...bad.
Speaking of other government backed companies, they include things like NPR and CBP. Both of them got seed money and after that a tiny annual stipend otherwise they do what all good non-profits do, hit the bricks and find people who want to make donations.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:33:08
Quote by Raine:
Seems to me, that Fanny and Freddy -- when they were PRIVATIZED was when things went screwy.
Raine, Freddy and Fanny have always been public companies, government backed though. Since they hold together something over half of all the mortgages in the country, them going belly up would be...bad.
Speaking of other government backed companies, they include things like NPR and CBP. Both of them got seed money and after that a tiny annual stipend otherwise they do what all good non-profits do, hit the bricks and find people who want to make donations.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:35:18
*makes mFaye a cup of hot lemon tea*
There, *fluffs pillow* get comfy and rest a bit.
capt on 07/23/2008 18:35:18
Quote by m-hadley:
Good Afternoon Everybody,
Thanks for the shout out Starling
Carry on, kids
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
*makes mFaye a cup of hot lemon tea*
There, *fluffs pillow* get comfy and rest a bit.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:36:08
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:36:08
Credit Cards are like Cigarettes.
At this point, there shouldn't be anyone who doesn't know the risks of either!
disclaimer : smokes and has credit card debt
:bow2:
At this point, there shouldn't be anyone who doesn't know the risks of either!
disclaimer :
smokes and has credit card debt :bow2:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:36:42
Except the board of CPB is seated by the president (I think) so not just a little $$$ influence. . .
(I might be wrong)
capt on 07/23/2008 18:36:42
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Seems to me, that Fanny and Freddy -- when they were PRIVATIZED was when things went screwy.
Raine, Freddy and Fanny have always been public companies, government backed though. Since they hold together something over half of all the mortgages in the country, them going belly up would be...bad.
Speaking of other government backed companies, they include things like NPR and CBP. Both of them got seed money and after that a tiny annual stipend otherwise they do what all good non-profits do, hit the bricks and find people who want to make donations.
Except the board of CPB is seated by the president (I think) so not just a little $$$ influence. . .
(I might be wrong)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:39:50
capt on 07/23/2008 18:39:50
Per wiki:
And
Nearly 20% is a HUGE stipend. IMO
The CPB has nine board members who serve six-year terms and are selected by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate.
And
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting's annual budget is funded by a combination of private donations from members, foundations and corporations (54.6% of 2005 budget), State and local taxes (24.6% of 2005 budget) and Federal appropriations (19.0% of 2005 budget).
Nearly 20% is a HUGE stipend. IMO
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:41:01
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:41:01
Do we have information on Obama's Germany speech?
Is it going to be televised?
Is it going to be televised?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 18:51:15
capt on 07/23/2008 18:51:15
Some info from Der Spiegel:
Debate over Germany Trip Leaves Team Obama Frustrated
Debate over Germany Trip Leaves Team Obama Frustrated
CNN will be broadcasting live from Berlin and the hosts of the three major US TV networks -- ABC, CBS and NBC all plan to broadcast their prime-time newscasts from the German capital.
They will go on air at 12:30 a.m. German time.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:52:39
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:52:39
Der Spiegel has it starting at 7pm German time...so, that is what? 13:00 ET I think?
Woo hoo. I am working from home Tomorrow so I'll see if it's on the TEEVEE.
Woo hoo. I am working from home Tomorrow so I'll see if it's on the TEEVEE.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:56:51
I did not know that it was much. Yeah that is big stipend. I know NPR doesn't get that much. Mrs Mondo was a long time Nipperite. Nice digs since they moved off M Street across from CBS. Good times! Good times! Noah Adams showed me where the pressure plate on the second floor was to get the door open. Cokie Roberts acting like she was the Queen of the Newsroom. Bob Edwards' affection for snap button western shirts. Scott Simon's lemon yellow undies.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 18:56:51
Quote by capt:
Per wiki:The CPB has nine board members who serve six-year terms and are selected by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate.
AndThe Corporation for Public Broadcasting's annual budget is funded by a combination of private donations from members, foundations and corporations (54.6% of 2005 budget), State and local taxes (24.6% of 2005 budget) and Federal appropriations (19.0% of 2005 budget).
Nearly 20% is a HUGE stipend. IMO
I did not know that it was much. Yeah that is big stipend. I know NPR doesn't get that much. Mrs Mondo was a long time Nipperite. Nice digs since they moved off M Street across from CBS. Good times! Good times! Noah Adams showed me where the pressure plate on the second floor was to get the door open. Cokie Roberts acting like she was the Queen of the Newsroom. Bob Edwards' affection for snap button western shirts. Scott Simon's lemon yellow undies.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:56:52
Oh, so it won't be LIVE?
Hmm...I wonder if they will edit it.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:56:52
Quote by capt:
Some info from Der Spiegel:
Debate over Germany Trip Leaves Team Obama FrustratedCNN will be broadcasting live from Berlin and the hosts of the three major US TV networks -- ABC, CBS and NBC all plan to broadcast their prime-time newscasts from the German capital.
They will go on air at 12:30 a.m. German time.
Oh, so it won't be LIVE?
Hmm...I wonder if they will edit it.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:59:34
Yeah, so they are airing his speech at 12:30am German Time, which is 5 and 1/2 hours after he is actually scheduled to speak.
It will air 18:30ET in that case.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 18:59:34
Quote by capt:
Berlin time
Yeah, so they are airing his speech at 12:30am German Time, which is 5 and 1/2 hours after he is actually scheduled to speak.
It will air 18:30ET in that case.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:00:15
Depends on where you are.
They are only 6 hours ahead of CT.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:00:15
Quote by capt:
Berlin time
(8 hours ahead of us?)
Depends on where you are.
They are only 6 hours ahead of CT.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:01:52
They say CNN, et al will do it live? They want Barack to make a whoop's - I bet they want any potential gaffe live so I assume it will be live?
capt on 07/23/2008 19:01:52
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Berlin time
Yeah, so they are airing his speech at 12:30am German Time, which is 5 and 1/2 hours after he is actually scheduled to speak.
It will air 18:30ET in that case.
They say CNN, et al will do it live? They want Barack to make a whoop's - I bet they want any potential gaffe live so I assume it will be live?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:02:49
capt on 07/23/2008 19:02:49
8 hours ahead of me in NM - I dunno where everybody else is, I'm still a newbie!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:03:41
Proves your credit worthiness. But you don't want to have too many unused lines of credit open, that's bad. Is this scoring system weird or what? I work for credit card company (but not for much longer! :banana:) and I still don't understand all the mechanics of credit.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:03:41
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
Proves your credit worthiness. But you don't want to have too many unused lines of credit open, that's bad. Is this scoring system weird or what? I work for credit card company (but not for much longer! :banana:) and I still don't understand all the mechanics of credit.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:08:54
Hmmm.....then that would be 1:30pm for me.....11:30am for you.
I dunno.
:: bill-o :: DO IT LIVE!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:08:54
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
Berlin time
Yeah, so they are airing his speech at 12:30am German Time, which is 5 and 1/2 hours after he is actually scheduled to speak.
It will air 18:30ET in that case.
They say CNN, et al will do it live? They want Barack to make a whoop's - I bet they want any potential gaffe live so I assume it will be live?
Hmmm.....then that would be 1:30pm for me.....11:30am for you.
I dunno.
:: bill-o :: DO IT LIVE!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:11:06
NM is mostly Mountain time isn't Capt? Or am having some weird crazy spell and confusing Central and Mountain?
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:11:06
Quote by capt:
8 hours ahead of me in NM - I dunno where everybody else is, I'm still a newbie!
NM is mostly Mountain time isn't Capt? Or am having some weird crazy spell and confusing Central and Mountain?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:14:47
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:14:47
Jed Report needs you to DIGG his video...
It a video about McCains never ending War... the McCainiacs have tried to get it buried... I say we help out Jedd.
(oh and watch the Video)
I am still watching it, and it's a stunner. I will post it in a moment.
It a video about McCains never ending War... the McCainiacs have tried to get it buried... I say we help out Jedd.
(oh and watch the Video)
I am still watching it, and it's a stunner. I will post it in a moment.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:14:49
Yeah, we go by mountain.
capt on 07/23/2008 19:14:49
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
8 hours ahead of me in NM - I dunno where everybody else is, I'm still a newbie!
NM is mostly Mountain time isn't Capt? Or am having some weird crazy spell and confusing Central and Mountain?
Yeah, we go by mountain.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:18:20
starling310 on 07/23/2008 19:18:20
Why didn't Maron fill in? These guys that Randi has had filling in are not good.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:19:23
IT's 9 minutes, and worth EVERY freakin' minute.
Digg it, Rate it on the youtubes, For the Farkers, please Fark... and pass this sucka on.
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:19:23
IT's 9 minutes, and worth EVERY freakin' minute.
Digg it, Rate it on the youtubes, For the Farkers, please Fark... and pass this sucka on.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:19:57
This Harrison guy is WAY better than that Johnny Wendel (or whatever his name was)
capt on 07/23/2008 19:19:57
Quote by starling310:
Why didn't Maron fill in? These guys that Randi has had filling in are not good.
This Harrison guy is WAY better than that Johnny Wendel (or whatever his name was)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:23:08
HA - great minds think alike . . That was posted too early for you ! 6:54am!
capt on 07/23/2008 19:23:08
Quote by Raine:
IT's 9 minutes, and worth EVERY freakin' minute.
Digg it, Rate it on the youtubes, For the Farkers, please Fark... and pass this sucka on.
HA - great minds think alike . . That was posted too early for you ! 6:54am!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:24:42
capt on 07/23/2008 19:24:42
I was born at the Kaiser Hospital right near Hollywood and Vine!
No kiddin!
No kiddin!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:25:37
I think both of them at one time or another have filled in for Momma. Before she started have Auntie Elayne or the fabulous Frangela as the guest hosts.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:25:37
Quote by capt:Quote by starling310:
Why didn't Maron fill in? These guys that Randi has had filling in are not good.
This Harrison guy is WAY better than that Johnny Wendel (or whatever his name was)
I think both of them at one time or another have filled in for Momma. Before she started have Auntie Elayne or the fabulous Frangela as the guest hosts.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:27:37
capt on 07/23/2008 19:27:37
That Johnny guy got me all PO'ed. *Z snap* "hate him"
Well, not hate, I hate haters. I think he is the suck.
Well, not hate, I hate haters. I think he is the suck.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:34:58
details?
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:34:58
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
Proves your credit worthiness. But you don't want to have too many unused lines of credit open, that's bad. Is this scoring system weird or what? I work for credit card company (but not for much longer! :banana:) and I still don't understand all the mechanics of credit.
details?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:35:16
capt on 07/23/2008 19:35:16
I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that!
~ Tom Lehrer
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:36:00
why are we talking hospitals? (I'm not listening to Randi's show so clue me in)
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:36:00
Quote by capt:
I was born at the Kaiser Hospital right near Hollywood and Vine!
No kiddin!
why are we talking hospitals? (I'm not listening to Randi's show so clue me in)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:36:44
capt on 07/23/2008 19:36:44
Drunk on $$$$$ lest we forget Hedge fund managers are pulling salaries of nearly a billion dollars (I think the number is over a half a billion on average)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:37:59
Harrison was talking about Hollywood, mentioned Hollywood and Vine . . . Tangential at best - you aren't missin nothing good. Just me blah blah blahing.
capt on 07/23/2008 19:37:59
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by capt:
I was born at the Kaiser Hospital right near Hollywood and Vine!
No kiddin!
why are we talking hospitals? (I'm not listening to Randi's show so clue me in)
Harrison was talking about Hollywood, mentioned Hollywood and Vine . . . Tangential at best - you aren't missin nothing good. Just me blah blah blahing.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:39:00
I found it VERY interesting that they tried to have this one buried...
Cynthia McKinney!
You know, I met her. She is incredible.
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:39:00
Quote by capt:
HA - great minds think alike . . That was posted too early for you ! 6:54am!
Cynthia McKinney!
You know, I met her. She is incredible.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:40:48
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:40:48
Cynthia lost her seat becuase of the open primary system here in Georgia.
Republicans voted for her opponent in the primary.
Republicans voted for her opponent in the primary.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:46:56
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:46:56
If you Have not seen it... You can Watch American Blackout on the Google video.Description:
Chronicles the recurring patterns of disenfranchisement witnessed from 2000 to 2004 while following the story of Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who not only took an active role in investigating these election debacles but also found herself in the middle of one after publicly questioning the Bush Administration about the 9-11 terrorist attacks. If copyright becomes an issue on this video upload, it will be deleted immediately.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:48:21
I was heartbroken when she lost. The GOP slugs are dishonorable. Using the vote that way stinks!
capt on 07/23/2008 19:48:21
Quote by Raine:
Cynthia lost her seat becuase of the open primary system here in Georgia.
Republicans voted for her opponent in the primary.
I was heartbroken when she lost. The GOP slugs are dishonorable. Using the vote that way stinks!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 19:49:52
capt on 07/23/2008 19:49:52
The truth is not radical!!! UGH!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:55:47
August 8th! I will tell all the dirty little secrets!
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 19:55:47
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
Proves your credit worthiness. But you don't want to have too many unused lines of credit open, that's bad. Is this scoring system weird or what? I work for credit card company (but not for much longer! :banana:) and I still don't understand all the mechanics of credit.
details?
August 8th! I will tell all the dirty little secrets!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 19:56:50
She was in the district next to mine. She doesn't live that far from here.
Until I moved to georgia I never really understood the open primary system. In NY, it's closed. I like it that way, you can't have the system gamed from outsiders, as it were.
I am concerned that is happening again with the Senatorial Race here in Goergia, we have a run off between Jim Martin and Vernon Jones to run against Chambliss. Rumour has it that Chambliss has helped *wink wink* fund Vernon Jones...
Raine on 07/23/2008 19:56:50
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
Cynthia lost her seat becuase of the open primary system here in Georgia.
Republicans voted for her opponent in the primary.
I was heartbroken when she lost. The GOP slugs are dishonorable. Using the vote that way stinks!
Until I moved to georgia I never really understood the open primary system. In NY, it's closed. I like it that way, you can't have the system gamed from outsiders, as it were.
I am concerned that is happening again with the Senatorial Race here in Goergia, we have a run off between Jim Martin and Vernon Jones to run against Chambliss. Rumour has it that Chambliss has helped *wink wink* fund Vernon Jones...
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 19:57:00
Random on 07/23/2008 19:57:00
*Random plots overthrow of blog*
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:58:49
I do love me a good story with dirty little secrets :p
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 19:58:49
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
We only carry the house note and a few student loans as debt.
We have a less than stellar credit rating because we don't use much credit. It seems backwards but the whole darn planet has been bass ackwards for years. UGH!
My credit card debt ( barring any craziness ) will be paid off by the time I am 35.
Then I will only have the mortgage and the student loan!!
The credit rating system IS weird!!! My ex-girlfriend was a mortgage broker ( AN HONEST ONE ) and she told me to leave credit card accounts open that I no longer use, because that helps your rating!!! WHHAAAA-----
But, it's true.
Proves your credit worthiness. But you don't want to have too many unused lines of credit open, that's bad. Is this scoring system weird or what? I work for credit card company (but not for much longer! :banana:) and I still don't understand all the mechanics of credit.
details?
August 8th! I will tell all the dirty little secrets!
I do love me a good story with dirty little secrets :p
Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2008 20:01:10
What?
wickedpam on 07/23/2008 20:01:10
Quote by Random:
*Random plots overthrow of blog*
What?
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:04:07
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
Random on 07/23/2008 20:04:07
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
*Random plots overthrow of blog*
What?
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:05:32
capt on 07/23/2008 20:05:32
McCain says the price of oil went down because of Bush? I think one could make a strong argument it is because of Barack - the prospect of his winning the presidency is enough to calm some of the fears about Bush and his warmongering party.
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:08:07
capt on 07/23/2008 20:08:07
This new ad had me ho-ho-hoing at the end.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 20:10:42
Capt, I mentioned this about 2ish See below for my thoughts on the buck-ass stupid that is John McCain and his campaign. Just dumb. Stoopid.
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 20:10:42
Quote by capt:
McCain says the price of oil went down because of Bush? I think one could make a strong argument it is because of Barack - the prospect of his winning the presidency is enough to calm some of the fears about Bush and his warmongering party.
Just sayin'
Capt, I mentioned this about 2ish See below for my thoughts on the buck-ass stupid that is John McCain and his campaign. Just dumb. Stoopid.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:11:21
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:11:21
Why aren't 3rd parties in the debates? They should be.
Especially this year!
Especially this year!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:11:30
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:11:30
Get this...
McCain to counterprogram Obama in Germany with visit to Gulf Coast oil rig.....
=================================================
I swear to goodness... It was Cancelled due to Dolly!!!
Damn you Dolly!!!
McCain to counterprogram Obama in Germany with visit to Gulf Coast oil rig.....
=================================================
I swear to goodness... It was Cancelled due to Dolly!!!
Damn you Dolly!!!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:12:30
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:12:30
Can the country sign up for Credit Counseling?
Random™ Thought.
Random™ Thought.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:13:57
capt on 07/23/2008 20:13:57
Top Radio Host Shifts Blame as Advertiser, Radio Network Drop Show
In response to Savage's remarks, the insurance company AFLAC announced it will no longer sponsor Savage's program, while the seven-station Super Talk Mississippi radio network has decided to drop Savage's program from its lineup.
"Savage can try to obfuscate matters all he wants, but the fact remains -- his words are his words, and they were clearly directed at children with autism," Palmer said. "Instead of trying to shift blame, he ought to do what's right and apologize to the millions of autistic children, their families, and others he insulted."
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 20:16:46
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 20:16:46
Heya kids,
Here's another great article from Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone mag): It's a Class War, Stupid. Also wanted to let you all know that I finally got around to adding a new post to my own blog. It's kinda all over the place, but that's the best I can do given that I feel like crap today. Check it out and as always, comments are more than welcome. Thanks mucho.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Here's another great article from Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone mag): It's a Class War, Stupid. Also wanted to let you all know that I finally got around to adding a new post to my own blog. It's kinda all over the place, but that's the best I can do given that I feel like crap today. Check it out and as always, comments are more than welcome. Thanks mucho.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:17:00
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:17:00
Hey guys. Have you heard 1 of Savage's sponsors dropped him? Who was that?
AFLAC.
Ugh...I can't think of it.....
AFLAC.
It's a supplemental Insurance company or something.
AFLLAAAAAAC!!!!
AFLAC.
Ugh...I can't think of it.....
AFLAC.
It's a supplemental Insurance company or something.
AFLLAAAAAAC!!!!
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 20:21:28
If you are, they certainly aren't getting their money's worth...
BobR on 07/23/2008 20:21:28
Quote by Random:
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
If you are, they certainly aren't getting their money's worth...
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:23:24
Bummer, I was hoping for Bobby. So still Mitt?
(ask Bob Novak?)
capt on 07/23/2008 20:23:24
Quote by Raine:
Jindal Says no to Veep Spot.
Bummer, I was hoping for Bobby. So still Mitt?
(ask Bob Novak?)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:24:28
The McCain camp pays in bumblebee nickels!
:rofl:
capt on 07/23/2008 20:24:28
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
If you are, they certainly aren't getting their money's worth...
The McCain camp pays in bumblebee nickels!
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:25:05
:thud: for the River.
:thud: for the Gas Prices that will surely follow.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:25:05
Quote by Raine:
MASSIVE oil Spill closes the Mississippi River...
:thud: for the River.
:thud: for the Gas Prices that will surely follow.
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 20:25:12
Of course, he'll rail against the "homosexual mafia" at Media Matters, and if he ever does get around to "apologizing" for his remarks, it'll be the standard "I'm sorry if anyone was offended by my remarks" GOPology.
clintster on 07/23/2008 20:25:12
Quote by capt:
Top Radio Host Shifts Blame as Advertiser, Radio Network Drop ShowIn response to Savage's remarks, the insurance company AFLAC announced it will no longer sponsor Savage's program, while the seven-station Super Talk Mississippi radio network has decided to drop Savage's program from its lineup.
"Savage can try to obfuscate matters all he wants, but the fact remains -- his words are his words, and they were clearly directed at children with autism," Palmer said. "Instead of trying to shift blame, he ought to do what's right and apologize to the millions of autistic children, their families, and others he insulted."
Of course, he'll rail against the "homosexual mafia" at Media Matters, and if he ever does get around to "apologizing" for his remarks, it'll be the standard "I'm sorry if anyone was offended by my remarks" GOPology.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:27:24
capt on 07/23/2008 20:27:24
Liliana Segura Talks Impeachment and Sending Karl Rove to Jail
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 20:28:00
Someone needs to do a YouTube of that.
clintster on 07/23/2008 20:28:00
Quote by starling310:
Hey guys. Have you heard 1 of Savage's sponsors dropped him? Who was that?
AFLAC.
Ugh...I can't think of it.....
AFLAC.
It's a supplemental Insurance company or something.
AFLLAAAAAAC!!!!
Someone needs to do a YouTube of that.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:31:10
I'll never believe his words - an apology from him will be as fake as anything else he says.
Can the seven stations in Mississippi be smarter than the others? Why does any station allow such hate speech. It doesn't justify ratings or sales - not like that.
UGH!
capt on 07/23/2008 20:31:10
Quote by clintster:Quote by capt:
Top Radio Host Shifts Blame as Advertiser, Radio Network Drop ShowIn response to Savage's remarks, the insurance company AFLAC announced it will no longer sponsor Savage's program, while the seven-station Super Talk Mississippi radio network has decided to drop Savage's program from its lineup.
"Savage can try to obfuscate matters all he wants, but the fact remains -- his words are his words, and they were clearly directed at children with autism," Palmer said. "Instead of trying to shift blame, he ought to do what's right and apologize to the millions of autistic children, their families, and others he insulted."
Of course, he'll rail against the "homosexual mafia" at Media Matters, and if he ever does get around to "apologizing" for his remarks, it'll be the standard "I'm sorry if anyone was offended by my remarks" GOPology.
I'll never believe his words - an apology from him will be as fake as anything else he says.
Can the seven stations in Mississippi be smarter than the others? Why does any station allow such hate speech. It doesn't justify ratings or sales - not like that.
UGH!
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 20:31:55
clintster on 07/23/2008 20:31:55
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:33:09
I did say i wasn't << >>...I'm being paid by Ed Hale...look him up here
Random on 07/23/2008 20:33:09
Quote by capt:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
If you are, they certainly aren't getting their money's worth...
The McCain camp pays in bumblebee nickels!
:rofl:
I did say i wasn't << >>...I'm being paid by Ed Hale...look him up here
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:34:41
What? didn't say i wasn't scamming him out of his dough...but i get 5 cents a post. Explains why i post a lot of bullshit...ALOT of bullshit.
Random on 07/23/2008 20:34:41
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
What? Of course I'm not a paid troll of the McCain Campaign.
If you are, they certainly aren't getting their money's worth...
What? didn't say i wasn't scamming him out of his dough...but i get 5 cents a post. Explains why i post a lot of bullshit...ALOT of bullshit.
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 20:36:10
I don't know what reeks of awesomeness more: the fact that he lost seven affiliates 'cause of this, or that they were all in Mississ-by Gawd-ippi.
clintster on 07/23/2008 20:36:10
Quote by capt:Quote by clintster:Quote by capt:
Top Radio Host Shifts Blame as Advertiser, Radio Network Drop ShowIn response to Savage's remarks, the insurance company AFLAC announced it will no longer sponsor Savage's program, while the seven-station Super Talk Mississippi radio network has decided to drop Savage's program from its lineup.
"Savage can try to obfuscate matters all he wants, but the fact remains -- his words are his words, and they were clearly directed at children with autism," Palmer said. "Instead of trying to shift blame, he ought to do what's right and apologize to the millions of autistic children, their families, and others he insulted."
Of course, he'll rail against the "homosexual mafia" at Media Matters, and if he ever does get around to "apologizing" for his remarks, it'll be the standard "I'm sorry if anyone was offended by my remarks" GOPology.
I'll never believe his words - an apology from him will be as fake as anything else he says.
Can the seven stations in Mississippi be smarter than the others? Why does any station allow such hate speech. It doesn't justify ratings or sales - not like that.
UGH!
I don't know what reeks of awesomeness more: the fact that he lost seven affiliates 'cause of this, or that they were all in Mississ-by Gawd-ippi.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:37:59
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:37:59
Got this in my email (more at the link)
That nasty little man basically called Olberman stupid...
Cable networks MSNBC and CNN have aired segments discussing McCain's "misstep" today, while Joe Scarborough talked about the media angle of the story this morning, and had some harsh words for his fellow MSNBC host...
"I know a couple of hosts ran this last night, made a huge deal because a liberal blogger picked it up. I will guarantee the host that ran it, waving their arms had no idea whether the Sunni Awakening or the surge began at the same time," Scarborough said.
"Anybody that would argue that the Sunni awakening would have survived in Al Anbar Province without the surge, anybody that would make that argument, is so ignorant of the facts on the ground in western Iraq, in Al Anbar Province and what the Sunni Sheiks were doing throughout 2007, that they are too stupid to be on TV. So I hope they don't carry that argument much longer because it is laughable."
That nasty little man basically called Olberman stupid...
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:38:01
OMG - our first bi-president . . . Bilingual - what did you think I meant?
capt on 07/23/2008 20:38:01
Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG - our first bi-president . . . Bilingual - what did you think I meant?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:41:26
capt on 07/23/2008 20:41:26
This Harrison guy has a pretty good demeanor. He is very kind and gentle with the callers. . .
I'm a little impressed.
I'm a little impressed.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:41:59
Scarborough is an idiot. If it comes for MSNBC to choose between the lovely Ex Congressman from Florida and the silver haired rabble rouser at 8...They'd pick the latter.
Random on 07/23/2008 20:41:59
Quote by Raine:
Got this in my email (more at the link)Cable networks MSNBC and CNN have aired segments discussing McCain's "misstep" today, while Joe Scarborough talked about the media angle of the story this morning, and had some harsh words for his fellow MSNBC host...
"I know a couple of hosts ran this last night, made a huge deal because a liberal blogger picked it up. I will guarantee the host that ran it, waving their arms had no idea whether the Sunni Awakening or the surge began at the same time," Scarborough said.
"Anybody that would argue that the Sunni awakening would have survived in Al Anbar Province without the surge, anybody that would make that argument, is so ignorant of the facts on the ground in western Iraq, in Al Anbar Province and what the Sunni Sheiks were doing throughout 2007, that they are too stupid to be on TV. So I hope they don't carry that argument much longer because it is laughable."
That nasty little man basically called Olberman stupid...
Scarborough is an idiot. If it comes for MSNBC to choose between the lovely Ex Congressman from Florida and the silver haired rabble rouser at 8...They'd pick the latter.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:45:48
OMG! The Audacity ( of hope ) to print flyers, to be handed out in Germany, in German!
I AM SHOCKED!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:45:48
Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG! The Audacity ( of hope ) to print flyers, to be handed out in Germany, in German!
I AM SHOCKED!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:45:50
OMG! The Audacity ( of hope ) to print flyers, to be handed out in Germany, in German!
I AM SHOCKED!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:45:50
Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG! The Audacity ( of hope ) to print flyers, to be handed out in Germany, in German!
I AM SHOCKED!
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:46:42
I am not sure if saying "Hallo Deutschland" counts as bilingual!
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:46:42
Quote by capt:Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG - our first bi-president . . . Bilingual - what did you think I meant?
I am not sure if saying "Hallo Deutschland" counts as bilingual!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:46:47
I remember when it was a GOOD thing for other countries to like a president. I remeber when President's went to other countries and THIS did NOT happen: (Italy, 2004/ AP)
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:46:47
Quote by capt:Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG - our first bi-president . . . Bilingual - what did you think I meant?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:47:48
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:47:48
OMG, this caller is killing me. He hates Obama becasue he SOUNDS good!
What an idjit!
What an idjit!
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:49:00
That country is a terrorist nation anyway. We don't need other countries, We;re the great and powerful U.S.
*ring*
Uh...One Second...that's the chinese...
Random on 07/23/2008 20:49:00
Quote by Raine:I remember when it was a GOOD thing for other countries to like a president. I remeber when President's went to other countries and THIS did NOT happen: (Italy, 2004/ AP)Quote by capt:Quote by clintster:
Newest right-wing tempest in a teapot:
ZOMG!!11! Obama printed campaign posters in GERMAN!!!11!!one1!!
OMG - our first bi-president . . . Bilingual - what did you think I meant?
That country is a terrorist nation anyway. We don't need other countries, We;re the great and powerful U.S.
*ring*
Uh...One Second...that's the chinese...
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:49:04
When you are an idjit, it makes sense to hate people that are CLEARLY smarter than you.
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:49:04
Quote by Raine:
OMG, this caller is killing me. He hates Obama becasue he SOUNDS good!
What an idjit!
When you are an idjit, it makes sense to hate people that are CLEARLY smarter than you.
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:50:07
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:50:07
The caller is STUMPED. 
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 20:50:09
capt on 07/23/2008 20:50:09
That is why the whole planet sees the advantage of Barack being elected. We have to make sure we don't fail. Nothing for granted and every voter has to get someone new to the polls. The GOP will try to steal it I am sure.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:50:27
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:50:27
I like Harrison. I do. He just tore this winger apart.
And that man is lucky I am not in the same room as him... questioning MY love of country. :modbat:
And that man is lucky I am not in the same room as him... questioning MY love of country. :modbat:
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 20:50:33
Well, I hate McCain because he sounds old.
Random on 07/23/2008 20:50:33
Quote by Raine:
OMG, this caller is killing me. He hates Obama becasue he SOUNDS good!
What an idjit!
Well, I hate McCain because he sounds old.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:56:35
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:56:35
When people say that I don't love my country... My alter ego comes out:
Comment by starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:59:23
starling310 on 07/23/2008 20:59:23
We broke 300!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 20:59:52
Raine on 07/23/2008 20:59:52
That's a Raine original, BTW... Just wanted to braggart a bit.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:00:38
capt on 07/23/2008 21:00:38
Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.
~ Martin Luther King Jr.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:03:09
That is your art? WOW! Excellent! I love to see such talent, I cannot draw stick figures - never had the artistic touch.
capt on 07/23/2008 21:03:09
Quote by Raine:
When people say that I don't love my country... My alter ego comes out:
That is your art? WOW! Excellent! I love to see such talent, I cannot draw stick figures - never had the artistic touch.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 21:04:13
:boobs2:
Liv would be proud of us!
for liv!
I wonder if he's still at the pool.
That reminds me... Clinster has already volunteered to take one of my blog days -- I think the 14th of August... Would anyone be willing to take the 18th?
I will not be in town that week...
I will ask again at a later date, just putting it out there!
Raine on 07/23/2008 21:04:13
Quote by starling310:
We broke 300!
:boobs2:
Liv would be proud of us!
for liv! I wonder if he's still at the pool.
That reminds me... Clinster has already volunteered to take one of my blog days -- I think the 14th of August... Would anyone be willing to take the 18th?
I will not be in town that week...
I will ask again at a later date, just putting it out there!
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:05:14
capt on 07/23/2008 21:05:14
The off-shore drilling thing is just nuts - why don't they give a little context like "the president's action doesn't effect anything because congress would have to change the law" or something - it is not an honest report.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 21:06:39
That's great! You do commissions?
Random on 07/23/2008 21:06:39
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
When people say that I don't love my country... My alter ego comes out:
That is your art? WOW! Excellent! I love to see such talent, I cannot draw stick figures - never had the artistic touch.
That's great! You do commissions?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 21:26:46
Raine on 07/23/2008 21:26:46
Yeah, Random, I can... I usually do paintings... did anyone see my *first they came for* art the other night?
I painted that. I added the words in photoshop afterwards, the original is hanging over Bobbers computer.
I painted that. I added the words in photoshop afterwards, the original is hanging over Bobbers computer.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:29:51
I am stunned! KEWL!
BobR is a very lucky man.
capt on 07/23/2008 21:29:51
Quote by Raine:
Yeah, Random, I can... I usually do paintings... did anyone see my *first they came for* art the other night?
I painted that. I added the words in photoshop afterwards, the original is hanging over Bobbers computer.
I am stunned! KEWL!
BobR is a very lucky man.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 21:31:01
Random on 07/23/2008 21:31:01
Hm...Sweet...It's wonderful artwork. I'll have to look for that other one...
...Uh, can i get back to ya on that though, I'm doing some fun things with polling numbers and Wikipedia...So...I'm a lil busy, be back in 10 some odd minutes
...Uh, can i get back to ya on that though, I'm doing some fun things with polling numbers and Wikipedia...So...I'm a lil busy, be back in 10 some odd minutes
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 21:32:55
Random on 07/23/2008 21:32:55
Oh, and on a side note, where did Donnie say he was from...You know, our favorite troll from the Live blog...Just curious (Isn't going to find him and force him to vote for Obama)
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 21:33:10
Raine on 07/23/2008 21:33:10
Take yer time...
HEre is the art I am talking about: (timely with all that Thom talked about today I think)
HEre is the art I am talking about: (timely with all that Thom talked about today I think)
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:34:55
(via Kos)
capt on 07/23/2008 21:34:55
(via Kos)
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 21:38:37
Random on 07/23/2008 21:38:37
Wow Raine, that's beautiful.
I remember reading that short story.
I remember reading that short story.
Comment by clintster on 07/23/2008 21:41:38
That would be Virginia Beach.
clintster on 07/23/2008 21:41:38
Quote by Random:
Oh, and on a side note, where did Donnie say he was from...You know, our favorite troll from the Live blog...Just curious (Isn't going to find him and force him to vote for Obama)
That would be Virginia Beach.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:46:45
capt on 07/23/2008 21:46:45
McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surge
Oh no he didn't? Really? OMG -
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Republican John McCain pushed back on Wednesday against Democratic criticism that he misstated when the troop buildup ordered by President Bush began, saying elements were put in place before Bush announced the strategy in early 2007.
He told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components," some of which began before the president's order for more troops.
It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.
Oh no he didn't? Really? OMG -
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 21:48:38
capt on 07/23/2008 21:48:38
My biological parents were hardcore racists. It is one of the reasons I am not.
Hate sucks and it is a ginormous waste of energy.
Hate sucks and it is a ginormous waste of energy.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 21:57:10
I have no idea what state that's in...O.o
That aside, who here knows how i can take a picture of my screen and save it as a jpg or something.
Random on 07/23/2008 21:57:10
Quote by clintster:Quote by Random:
Oh, and on a side note, where did Donnie say he was from...You know, our favorite troll from the Live blog...Just curious (Isn't going to find him and force him to vote for Obama)
That would be Virginia Beach.
I have no idea what state that's in...O.o
That aside, who here knows how i can take a picture of my screen and save it as a jpg or something.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:04:56
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:04:56
Yay! The roofer came finally! I wasn't expecting him!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:07:34
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:07:34
I have "Marketplace" on the radio mosheen. Andy Cumo is considering an investigation/ fraud lawsuit against UBS. Doesn't Phil Gramm work for them when he isn't call the US a nation of wieners?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:09:45
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:09:45
BTW Clint, Savage has already gone on the record that the "homo mafia" took him out context. I got an alert from the "Homo Mafia" earlier.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 22:10:05
capt on 07/23/2008 22:10:05
Alt + prt screen - open Paint or image - paste into blank image.
Or D-load ScreenPrint32 from:
http://www.provtech.co.uk/software/screenprint32.asp
Free - compact and you can do a "select area" on a screen . . .
Or D-load ScreenPrint32 from:
http://www.provtech.co.uk/software/screenprint32.asp
Free - compact and you can do a "select area" on a screen . . .
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:13:23
Gee like what the meaning of is is?
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 22:13:23
Quote by capt:
McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surgeBETHLEHEM, Pa. - Republican John McCain pushed back on Wednesday against Democratic criticism that he misstated when the troop buildup ordered by President Bush began, saying elements were put in place before Bush announced the strategy in early 2007.
He told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components," some of which began before the president's order for more troops.
It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.
Oh no he didn't? Really? OMG -
Gee like what the meaning of is is?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 22:19:02
capt on 07/23/2008 22:19:02
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:26:08
Random on 07/23/2008 22:26:08
DAMN!
I had a nice long introduction, but i hit the wrong button but lost it.
So...Summary Time. I spent a lot of my time compiling State Poll data. I then went on a nice look at Nationwide polls, with 45 -39 to Obama. Obama would get 241 Electoral College votes and McCain 201, if one were to believe the National Polls...
Now...Enjoy this...(I plan on making more, as Election gets closer, so we can have a nice look at the progression.)
I had a nice long introduction, but i hit the wrong button but lost it.
So...Summary Time. I spent a lot of my time compiling State Poll data. I then went on a nice look at Nationwide polls, with 45 -39 to Obama. Obama would get 241 Electoral College votes and McCain 201, if one were to believe the National Polls...
Now...Enjoy this...(I plan on making more, as Election gets closer, so we can have a nice look at the progression.)
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:27:49
Random on 07/23/2008 22:27:49
D'OH!
One last thing, the polls are different from state to state, (Zogby, others...) So i can not guarentee these are the numbers you may have seen.
One last thing, the polls are different from state to state, (Zogby, others...) So i can not guarentee these are the numbers you may have seen.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 22:31:34
capt on 07/23/2008 22:31:34
Quote by Random:
D'OH!
One last thing, the polls are different from state to state, (Zogby, others...) So i can not guarentee these are the numbers you may have seen.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:31:36
ha...I just got that.
Random on 07/23/2008 22:31:36
Quote by capt:
ha...I just got that.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:36:06
Yeah, and just incase any of you are wondering, No I do not have Chuck Todd tied up in my Garage doing the work for me, and I did not send out a ransom to MSNBC demanding to be on Countdown.
Random on 07/23/2008 22:36:06
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
D'OH!
One last thing, the polls are different from state to state, (Zogby, others...) So i can not guarentee these are the numbers you may have seen.
Yeah, and just incase any of you are wondering, No I do not have Chuck Todd tied up in my Garage doing the work for me, and I did not send out a ransom to MSNBC demanding to be on Countdown.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 22:38:05
capt on 07/23/2008 22:38:05
McSame Outspends Obama 3-1; Gets Nothing for It
Big-time Ad buy - millions
Production costs hundreds of thousands
Really bad scary message that turns people off - PRICELESS!!!!!!
(the ad sucks so bad it is actually funny)
Big-time Ad buy - millions
Production costs hundreds of thousands
Really bad scary message that turns people off - PRICELESS!!!!!!
(the ad sucks so bad it is actually funny)
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:38:20
I thought is meant "I did not have sex with that woman"...
I'll go into the penalty box...I'm a little Strung out on Caffeenine at the moment.
Random on 07/23/2008 22:38:20
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surgeBETHLEHEM, Pa. - Republican John McCain pushed back on Wednesday against Democratic criticism that he misstated when the troop buildup ordered by President Bush began, saying elements were put in place before Bush announced the strategy in early 2007.
He told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components," some of which began before the president's order for more troops.
It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.
Oh no he didn't? Really? OMG -
Gee like what the meaning of is is?
I thought is meant "I did not have sex with that woman"...
I'll go into the penalty box...I'm a little Strung out on Caffeenine at the moment.
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 22:44:24
The feds have been investigating UBS for a while... UBS told their employees NOT to travel to the US a few weeks ago.
Phil Graham was a LOBBYIST for UBS... yup. I posted a lot of this over on the MB.
PLEASE... check out this link.
Raine on 07/23/2008 22:44:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
I have "Marketplace" on the radio mosheen. Andy Cumo is considering an investigation/ fraud lawsuit against UBS. Doesn't Phil Gramm work for them when he isn't call the US a nation of wieners?
Phil Graham was a LOBBYIST for UBS... yup. I posted a lot of this over on the MB.
PLEASE... check out this link.
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 22:47:39
Raine,
I would be glad to take August 18th for ya - it's a Monday, correct? I'll put it in my calendar, sos I remember on Sunday night. Where you gonna be? If I'm not being too nosy :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 22:47:39
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
We broke 300!
:boobs2:
Liv would be proud of us!
I wonder if he's still at the pool.
That reminds me... Clinster has already volunteered to take one of my blog days -- I think the 14th of August... Would anyone be willing to take the 18th?
I will not be in town that week...
I will ask again at a later date, just putting it out there!
Raine,
I would be glad to take August 18th for ya - it's a Monday, correct? I'll put it in my calendar, sos I remember on Sunday night. Where you gonna be? If I'm not being too nosy :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 22:47:51
capt on 07/23/2008 22:47:51
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 22:50:45
Random on 07/23/2008 22:50:45
If Raine would like, I would love to fill in and do a Numbers blog from time to time.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 23:00:20
Random on 07/23/2008 23:00:20
Random™
From my chart below...these are what i believe the swing states are (Within 5points of each other makes them a swing stat...)
Arkansas
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
From my chart below...these are what i believe the swing states are (Within 5points of each other makes them a swing stat...)
Arkansas
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 23:10:57
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 23:10:57
Random & Raine,
As far as taking Raine's blog post, I defer to the great Random, but I don't think that there's any rule against having more than one post on a day - am I correct about this?
BTB, Raine, my dear, you are one very, very talented arteeest. I would love to buy a Raine original - any way I can see your work online? Thanks for sharing your fabulous art - you truly rock my world (you do too, Random, just in a different way :P).
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
As far as taking Raine's blog post, I defer to the great Random, but I don't think that there's any rule against having more than one post on a day - am I correct about this?
BTB, Raine, my dear, you are one very, very talented arteeest. I would love to buy a Raine original - any way I can see your work online? Thanks for sharing your fabulous art - you truly rock my world (you do too, Random, just in a different way :P).
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 23:12:23
capt on 07/23/2008 23:12:23
Random,
Another source for some numbers and whatnot:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
The guy has been doing very well with projections.
Another source for some numbers and whatnot:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
The guy has been doing very well with projections.
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 23:14:27
Random on 07/23/2008 23:14:27
Now you're just buttering me up mfaye. But thanks anyway.
*laughs softly*
*laughs softly*
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 23:18:56
Well, projections are nice...but hardly any fun if they do all the math for ya.
that aside, looks like great numbers on the side, probably a more accurate source then Wikipedia.
Random on 07/23/2008 23:18:56
Quote by capt:
Random,
Another source for some numbers and whatnot:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
The guy has been doing very well with projections.
Well, projections are nice...but hardly any fun if they do all the math for ya.
that aside, looks like great numbers on the side, probably a more accurate source then Wikipedia.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/23/2008 23:20:49
It got ominously dark on the way to the eye doctor tonight, as I pulled into the parking garage there were a couple of simultaneous flash-thunders in quick succession, the second one taking out the lights in the garage. Yet I was hoping that by the time my retinal exam was over, it would still be dark so I could see better. The bloody eye (yeah it's still a bit bloody) wanted no part of the puff of air or the doctor prying the eyelid open to get the drops in.
Of course by the time I got out (everything's fine), it was starting to brighten and by the time I got home, the sun was out. Guess I've still got a bit of time to wait before my vision is back to normal. I went to text the wife when I got out of the exam, then figured out - "hey, I can't see the buttons on the phone". God knows what I sent her.
Excellent post clintster. My nephew is autistic, so I have just a little idea of what my sister and brother-in-law are going through, though he's in high school now and doing well, so at least in their case there's a better chance this could have something to do with the thimerisol.
The Savage Weiner needs to be sterilized.
ETA - Just found out that about 3 hours ago there was a tornado warning south of here (Taunton, MA area to be specific), right where the NWS doppler radar is. Do tornadoes have minds?
trojanrabbit on 07/23/2008 23:20:49
Quote by TriSec:
And another thing, the weatherman actually said the "T" word this morning....
Which would be tornado. We've been having some wicked thunderstorms around here for weeks....much more intense and violent than usual. But you can't tell anyone that it might be related to climate change, right?
Anyway....I'm keeping a wary eye to the skies and the radars today.
(Western bloggers preparing to mock us skittish New Englanders would do well to look up the Worcester Tornado (circa 1953) first...) :peace:
It got ominously dark on the way to the eye doctor tonight, as I pulled into the parking garage there were a couple of simultaneous flash-thunders in quick succession, the second one taking out the lights in the garage. Yet I was hoping that by the time my retinal exam was over, it would still be dark so I could see better. The bloody eye (yeah it's still a bit bloody) wanted no part of the puff of air or the doctor prying the eyelid open to get the drops in.
Of course by the time I got out (everything's fine), it was starting to brighten and by the time I got home, the sun was out. Guess I've still got a bit of time to wait before my vision is back to normal. I went to text the wife when I got out of the exam, then figured out - "hey, I can't see the buttons on the phone". God knows what I sent her.
Excellent post clintster. My nephew is autistic, so I have just a little idea of what my sister and brother-in-law are going through, though he's in high school now and doing well, so at least in their case there's a better chance this could have something to do with the thimerisol.
The Savage Weiner needs to be sterilized.
ETA - Just found out that about 3 hours ago there was a tornado warning south of here (Taunton, MA area to be specific), right where the NWS doppler radar is. Do tornadoes have minds?
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 23:26:47
Raine on 07/23/2008 23:26:47
There are no rules about more than one bloggie per day. We just want to make sure that the morning blog spots are filled...
So listen... we have time to work it out... allst I need to know is that we will have a person to take my place.
I am heading to NY for that week, sadly sans Bobber.
Don't tell mi familia.... not that they read das blog... (I know they don't)... I am just a crazy radical to them...
So listen... we have time to work it out... allst I need to know is that we will have a person to take my place.
I am heading to NY for that week, sadly sans Bobber.
Don't tell mi familia.... not that they read das blog... (I know they don't)... I am just a crazy radical to them...
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 23:38:39
Random on 07/23/2008 23:38:39
well, if i were to do it...I may need some time to compile numbers and pretty charts...
Mainly cause i can't write for crap, incase ya'll haven't guessed.
Mainly cause i can't write for crap, incase ya'll haven't guessed.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 23:53:19
capt on 07/23/2008 23:53:19
Is McCain's Age Showing? Tongues Wag Over Flubs
Oh dear, no small wonder McCain is in a snit about Germany . . . .
We interrupt the nonstop coverage of Barack Obama's overseas trip to bring you some breaking whispers about John McCain.
He has been making a series of verbal slips -- invariably described as "gaffes" -- that are starting to ricochet from liberal blogs to the mainstream media. And fairly or not, some critics are suggesting the 71-year-old Republican candidate is showing his age.
McCain referred to the "Iraq-Pakistan border" in a "Good Morning America" interview; since there is no such border, he must have meant Afghanistan-Pakistan. He has twice referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that ceased to exist in 1993; mixed up Sunnis and Shiites; band identified Vladimir Putin as president of Germany.
Oh dear, no small wonder McCain is in a snit about Germany . . . .
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 23:53:47
OK lobbied for them. I guess that counts as being actually being on the payroll
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 23:53:47
Quote by Raine:The feds have been investigating UBS for a while... UBS told their employees NOT to travel to the US a few weeks ago.Quote by Mondobubba:
I have "Marketplace" on the radio mosheen. Andy Cumo is considering an investigation/ fraud lawsuit against UBS. Doesn't Phil Gramm work for them when he isn't call the US a nation of wieners?
Phil Graham was a LOBBYIST for UBS... yup. I posted a lot of this over on the MB.
PLEASE... check out this link.
OK lobbied for them. I guess that counts as being actually being on the payroll
Comment by Random on 07/23/2008 23:57:55
Random on 07/23/2008 23:57:55
Spot the difference from before!
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 23:59:30
Heya Kids,
Doncha just love Random's soft little laugh ?
I love to write - cancha tell? :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 23:59:30
Quote by Random:
Now you're just buttering me up mfaye. But thanks anyway.
*laughs softly*
Heya Kids,
Doncha just love Random's soft little laugh ?
I love to write - cancha tell? :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:00:08
Random needs to get work on a political campaign as a number cruncher. All hail Random. :bow:
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:00:08
Quote by Random:
Random™
From my chart below...these are what i believe the swing states are (Within 5points of each other makes them a swing stat...)
Arkansas
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Random needs to get work on a political campaign as a number cruncher. All hail Random. :bow:
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:01:32
I always figured it was a soft chuckle with a bit of a mwahaha.
Random on 07/24/2008 00:01:32
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:
Now you're just buttering me up mfaye. But thanks anyway.
*laughs softly*
Heya Kids,
Doncha just love Random's soft little laugh ?
I love to write - cancha tell? :P
Cheers,
mfaye
I always figured it was a soft chuckle with a bit of a mwahaha.
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:03:35
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:03:35
All you have to do is say you wanna do it, and when Random. I am not concerned about your writing... it is the message, my friend.
We have a few weeks to work that day out. I ain't sweating it.
We have a few weeks to work that day out. I ain't sweating it.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:04:28
Ahh, Random would prefer to be Number cruncher of the 4F Blog.
It's more fun...and when it comes blog pool time...I'll win when i fix the numbers...O.o I'm not fixing the numbers!
Random on 07/24/2008 00:04:28
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Random™
From my chart below...these are what i believe the swing states are (Within 5points of each other makes them a swing stat...)
Arkansas
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Random needs to get work on a political campaign as a number cruncher. All hail Random. :bow:
Ahh, Random would prefer to be Number cruncher of the 4F Blog.
It's more fun...and when it comes blog pool time...I'll win when i fix the numbers...O.o I'm not fixing the numbers!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:05:49
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:05:49
In front of the cheese case! :rofl:
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:06:39
Alrighties. Well, I'd like to do a Numbers blog, I think it would be quite fun.
Random on 07/24/2008 00:06:39
Quote by Raine:
All you have to do is say you wanna do it, and when Random. I am not concerned about your writing... it is the message, my friend.
We have a few weeks to work that day out. I ain't sweating it.
Alrighties. Well, I'd like to do a Numbers blog, I think it would be quite fun.
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:07:15
The Cheese case indeed!!
Capt... KO is mentioning this sotry!
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:07:15
Quote by capt:
Anbar Sheik Cited By McCain Was Assassinated Last Year
What he meant was taken out of context . . .
Capt... KO is mentioning this sotry!
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:10:26
Random on 07/24/2008 00:10:26
Dear Lord...I love Obama's number in DC...Makes Random Happy.
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:10:57
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:10:57
Joe Scarborough is eating CROW tonite.
And McCain is talking so much BULLSHITE, I am stunned that the media is allowing this.
A surge is soveriegn... it is a counter-insoveriegnty... A surge in soveriengsurgery.
And McCain is talking so much BULLSHITE, I am stunned that the media is allowing this.
A surge is soveriegn... it is a counter-insoveriegnty... A surge in soveriengsurgery.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 00:13:34
capt on 07/24/2008 00:13:34
Mistakes happen - Right! I am sure they do . . .
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:14:32
So you wanna take the the 18th? (it's a monday) if not... I can give not just pick a day, anything but a tuesday. Faye can fill in that day if you are not feeling it.
:hug:
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:14:32
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
All you have to do is say you wanna do it, and when Random. I am not concerned about your writing... it is the message, my friend.
We have a few weeks to work that day out. I ain't sweating it.
Alrighties. Well, I'd like to do a Numbers blog, I think it would be quite fun.
:hug:
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 00:17:18
capt on 07/24/2008 00:17:18
Keith: The McCain campaign is a knock knock joke!
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:17:38
18th is great.
I should have enough data compiled by then to do a cool graph on Swing States, probably something with Congress.
Random on 07/24/2008 00:17:38
Quote by Raine:So you wanna take the the 18th? (it's a monday) if not... I can give not just pick a day, anything but a tuesday. Faye can fill in that day if you are not feeling it.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
All you have to do is say you wanna do it, and when Random. I am not concerned about your writing... it is the message, my friend.
We have a few weeks to work that day out. I ain't sweating it.
Alrighties. Well, I'd like to do a Numbers blog, I think it would be quite fun.
:hug:
18th is great.
I should have enough data compiled by then to do a cool graph on Swing States, probably something with Congress.
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:18:58
I love that laugh! Faye, I may call you in to pinch hit during the first week of september.
More details to come in the next few days. :peace:
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:18:58
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:
Now you're just buttering me up mfaye. But thanks anyway.
*laughs softly*
Heya Kids,
Doncha just love Random's soft little laugh ?
I love to write - cancha tell? :P
Cheers,
mfaye
More details to come in the next few days. :peace:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:22:21
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:22:21
Good news and bad news on the roof front. Good news leak is fixed. Bad news I will need to have the roof replaced, but it is going to cost way less than I thought. The repairs the guy did are way way ugly, but if anybody is up close look at my roof with asking me first I'll punch em in the nuts. :grin:
So me at the cats, who were traumatized by the roofer are chillin' here at the ranch.
So me at the cats, who were traumatized by the roofer are chillin' here at the ranch.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:25:22
Random on 07/24/2008 00:25:22
Random must leave for a short time, but he'll be back soon
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:26:16
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:26:16
: checks dates Raine said she would be out of town: Damn, I guess I won't ask if I can come up for few days. Oh well.
Oh well.
Comment by starling310 on 07/24/2008 00:27:31
starling310 on 07/24/2008 00:27:31
Mmmm....Vegan Chicken Salad made in my Food Processor ( Birthday Present )!!!
:banana: <------- happy food dance
:banana: <------- happy food dance
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:27:31
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:27:31
The McCain campaign is simply a train wreck.
It really is. The polling numbers are gonna be VERY interesting in a week or two.
It really is. The polling numbers are gonna be VERY interesting in a week or two.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 00:29:31
well, yheah.
the 18th will be perfect
Random on 07/24/2008 00:29:31
Quote by Raine:
The McCain campaign is simply a train wreck.
It really is. The polling numbers are gonna be VERY interesting in a week or two.
the 18th will be perfect
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 00:30:54
Good news! Roof and roofer cheaper than expected is good news. Poor kitties.
Worth the stress or you'll be singing "Who'll stop the rain"
capt on 07/24/2008 00:30:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
Good news and bad news on the roof front. Good news leak is fixed. Bad news I will need to have the roof replaced, but it is going to cost way less than I thought. The repairs the guy did are way way ugly, but if anybody is up close look at my roof with asking me first I'll punch em in the nuts. :grin:
So me at the cats, who were traumatized by the roofer are chillin' here at the ranch.
Good news! Roof and roofer cheaper than expected is good news. Poor kitties.
Worth the stress or you'll be singing "Who'll stop the rain"
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:31:54
sorry dahlink.
I really have to travel. It is my sistah's baby showah!
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:31:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
: checks dates Raine said she would be out of town: Damn, I guess I won't ask if I can come up for few days.
sorry dahlink. I really have to travel. It is my sistah's baby showah!
Comment by Raine on 07/24/2008 00:35:32
Dances for the Vegan Chicken salad!
Raine on 07/24/2008 00:35:32
Quote by starling310:
Mmmm....Vegan Chicken Salad made in my Food Processor ( Birthday Present )!!!
:banana: <------- happy food dance
Dances for the Vegan Chicken salad!
Comment by starling310 on 07/24/2008 00:39:30
Do an extra shake for the food processor that made it all possible!
starling310 on 07/24/2008 00:39:30
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Mmmm....Vegan Chicken Salad made in my Food Processor ( Birthday Present )!!!
:banana: <------- happy food dance
Dances for the Vegan Chicken salad!
Do an extra shake for the food processor that made it all possible!
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 00:40:29
Vegan chicken is an oxymoron.
If it is made from soy - be careful it can make you straight.
capt on 07/24/2008 00:40:29
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Mmmm....Vegan Chicken Salad made in my Food Processor ( Birthday Present )!!!
:banana: <------- happy food dance
Dances for the Vegan Chicken salad!
Vegan chicken is an oxymoron.
If it is made from soy - be careful it can make you straight.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:42:41
I have been singing that, Capt. It has been raining almost every day for past three weeks. I thought I was starting to mold.
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:42:41
Quote by capt:Quote by Mondobubba:
Good news and bad news on the roof front. Good news leak is fixed. Bad news I will need to have the roof replaced, but it is going to cost way less than I thought. The repairs the guy did are way way ugly, but if anybody is up close look at my roof with asking me first I'll punch em in the nuts. :grin:
So me at the cats, who were traumatized by the roofer are chillin' here at the ranch.
Good news! Roof and roofer cheaper than expected is good news. Poor kitties.
Worth the stress or you'll be singing "Who'll stop the rain"
I have been singing that, Capt. It has been raining almost every day for past three weeks. I thought I was starting to mold.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:48:54
:Checks calendar: Wait no. I'm going to my parents on the 7th. Staying to like Mondee. You are leaving when?
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:48:54
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
: checks dates Raine said she would be out of town: Damn, I guess I won't ask if I can come up for few days.
I really have to travel. It is my sistah's baby showah!
:Checks calendar: Wait no. I'm going to my parents on the 7th. Staying to like Mondee. You are leaving when?
Comment by TriSec on 07/24/2008 00:49:29
TriSec on 07/24/2008 00:49:29
Evening, folks.
Well, we had some Dark Clouds of Mordor over us back about 4:30, and there was a tornado watch locally and a funnel cloud reportedly sighted over Rhode Island, but nothing came of it.
Certainly been some interesting weather we've been having this summer. I wonder why that is?
Well, we had some Dark Clouds of Mordor over us back about 4:30, and there was a tornado watch locally and a funnel cloud reportedly sighted over Rhode Island, but nothing came of it.
Certainly been some interesting weather we've been having this summer. I wonder why that is?
Comment by MMB on 07/24/2008 00:52:02
MMB on 07/24/2008 00:52:02
My neighbor Marlo just had a nice new roof put on her house. Of course she had no leaks because they had kept up with any problem hers was just a case of time for a new roof. I was kinda pullling for a big hurricane but she beat me to it. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:56:30
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 00:56:30
Wait? Amy Poehler is leaving SNL. There goes the last good cast member.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:01:41
We had those same clouds too. Very very dark! Didn't rain super hard in my part of town, but Doug the Roofer was across the river and said it was coming down sideways.
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:01:41
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks.
Well, we had some Dark Clouds of Mordor over us back about 4:30, and there was a tornado watch locally and a funnel cloud reportedly sighted over Rhode Island, but nothing came of it.
Certainly been some interesting weather we've been having this summer. I wonder why that is?
We had those same clouds too. Very very dark! Didn't rain super hard in my part of town, but Doug the Roofer was across the river and said it was coming down sideways.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 01:05:26
capt on 07/24/2008 01:05:26
We have had some rain everyday for 11 days running - almost a record for July.
It is still not much on the ground but the humidity is killing me.
Ugh!
It is still not much on the ground but the humidity is killing me.
Ugh!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:06:16
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:06:16
Ewww Neil DeGrasse Tyson is talking about leeches. {throwup}
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:10:12
livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:10:12
You guys have been busy beavers. While I am off enjoying myself, everyone's blogging.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:17:30
So the humidity in ABQ is up to what about 20%? :rofl:
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:17:30
Quote by capt:
We have had some rain everyday for 11 days running - almost a record for July.
It is still not much on the ground but the humidity is killing me.
Ugh!
So the humidity in ABQ is up to what about 20%? :rofl:
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 01:17:35
capt on 07/24/2008 01:17:35
Hey Liv!
Feeling all vacationy?
Feeling all vacationy?
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:20:34
Definitely. Although I felt like taking a nap earlier.
livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:20:34
Quote by capt:
Hey Liv!
Feeling all vacationy?
Definitely. Although I felt like taking a nap earlier.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 01:20:46
Currently 38% but it goes to 100% when raining - I like the weather just not used to the humidity. I lived in NC for a few years so I know the 90&90's - never liked that much either.
capt on 07/24/2008 01:20:46
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
We have had some rain everyday for 11 days running - almost a record for July.
It is still not much on the ground but the humidity is killing me.
Ugh!
So the humidity in ABQ is up to what about 20%? :rofl:
Currently 38% but it goes to 100% when raining - I like the weather just not used to the humidity. I lived in NC for a few years so I know the 90&90's - never liked that much either.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/24/2008 01:28:00
trojanrabbit on 07/24/2008 01:28:00
Hmm. It's either really dark or it's late or both. Lots of flashes and rumblings of thunder and the cats have scattered elsewhere to hide. See a big red patch on the radar moving right towards us. Think I'll turn in for the night and enjoy the show. Prolly not a good idea to keep the 'puter running.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:30:00
To be honest, I really don't notice humidity much anymore. What I notice is when it is not really humid.
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 01:30:00
Quote by capt:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
We have had some rain everyday for 11 days running - almost a record for July.
It is still not much on the ground but the humidity is killing me.
Ugh!
So the humidity in ABQ is up to what about 20%? :rofl:
Currently 38% but it goes to 100% when raining - I like the weather just not used to the humidity. I lived in NC for a few years so I know the 90&90's - never liked that much either.
To be honest, I really don't notice humidity much anymore. What I notice is when it is not really humid.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 01:31:00
Random on 07/24/2008 01:31:00
Random is going to go insane looking through these numbers...But Random already there, so that okay.
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:35:56
livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:35:56
It's actually supposed to get humid in Las Vegas this weekend with chance of thunderstorms but I should be home by then.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/24/2008 01:40:32
velveeta jones on 07/24/2008 01:40:32
Back from werk! :puke:
Watching "Black in America" on CNN.
Watching "Black in America" on CNN.
Comment by TriSec on 07/24/2008 01:45:41
TriSec on 07/24/2008 01:45:41
Hmm, I'm getting lots of flash-bang activity just south of me...I think I'm going to drop off, too.
:peace:
:peace:
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:46:53
livingonli on 07/24/2008 01:46:53
Hi VJ, you have to say it like Maynard G. Krebs in Dobie Gillis.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/24/2008 01:49:12
Who? :blink:
velveeta jones on 07/24/2008 01:49:12
Quote by livingonli:
Hi VJ, you have to say it like Maynard G. Krebs in Dobie Gillis.
Who? :blink:
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 01:52:37
Random on 07/24/2008 01:52:37
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 02:02:01
Maynard G. Krebs played by Bob Denver on the Dobie Gillis show.
livingonli on 07/24/2008 02:02:01
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by livingonli:
Hi VJ, you have to say it like Maynard G. Krebs in Dobie Gillis.
Who? :blink:
Maynard G. Krebs played by Bob Denver on the Dobie Gillis show.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:07:20
capt on 07/24/2008 02:07:20
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:10:30
capt on 07/24/2008 02:10:30
Humidity now almost 60% - so there.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 02:12:30
Random on 07/24/2008 02:12:30
Oh...Anyone know a website where i can find how much Money McCain's gotten in the last few months, and Where Obama would have gotten (Preferably the same site)
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:13:28
capt on 07/24/2008 02:13:28
http://opensecrets.org/
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 02:21:45
Random on 07/24/2008 02:21:45
Love you capt!
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:24:54
Back atcha!
capt on 07/24/2008 02:24:54
Quote by Random:
Love you capt!
Back atcha!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 02:28:39
Yeah it does go up after the sun goes down. Since I have no need for an ice scraper in my car, I have a squeegee instead. Good to have especially more towards winter and fall when the dew point drops.
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 02:28:39
Quote by capt:
Humidity now almost 60% - so there.
Yeah it does go up after the sun goes down. Since I have no need for an ice scraper in my car, I have a squeegee instead. Good to have especially more towards winter and fall when the dew point drops.
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 02:36:31
Random on 07/24/2008 02:36:31
Currently Random has compiled all data on polls from April or earlier...Sad that only half the states have polls, (so far) makes it hard to get accurate data, or even decide what is a swing state.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:39:54
capt on 07/24/2008 02:39:54
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:41:56
capt on 07/24/2008 02:41:56
Comment by Random on 07/24/2008 02:45:54
Random on 07/24/2008 02:45:54
I'm going to have to kill you Capt...Making me do more work...Knowing I cant resist...*channels Charlie Brown* ARGH!
I need my sleep...Night all of you.
I need my sleep...Night all of you.
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 02:50:12
capt on 07/24/2008 02:50:12
The second one with random in it sucks - no numbers - get some rest!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 03:45:33
Mondobubba on 07/24/2008 03:45:33
Colbert: MSNBC is a news Pez dispenser! : graphic of KO as Pez dispenser:
Comment by capt on 07/24/2008 04:26:29
capt on 07/24/2008 04:26:29
Anybody still up? I figure this is better late than a way to start a day tomorrow:
New Cuban nuke crisis threat
I'm thinking this is a predictable counter. I wonder if Bunnypants and the gang that can't think straight considered it?
UGH!
Good night!
New Cuban nuke crisis threat
Is Russia serious about deploying its nuclear bombers in Cuba to retaliate against U.S. ballistic missile defense deployments in Poland or Lithuania?
The story broke Monday this week when the Russian newspaper Izvestia, citing what it described as "a high placed source" in the Russian government, said if the United States went ahead with its plans to deploy Ground-based Mid-course Interceptors in Poland or Lithuania, the Kremlin could retaliate by basing its Tupolev Tu-160 White Swan supersonic nuclear bombers -- NATO codename Blackjack -- in Cuba.
I'm thinking this is a predictable counter. I wonder if Bunnypants and the gang that can't think straight considered it?
UGH!
Good night!
Comment by livingonli on 07/24/2008 08:38:05
livingonli on 07/24/2008 08:38:05
Time for another installment of late night music video theater.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/24/2008 09:12:26
trojanrabbit on 07/24/2008 09:12:26
Hehe liv. You must have just turned in for the night, and I'm just getting up. Hope you're having a good time.