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Unfit for the Office
Author: BobR    Date: 08/08/2008 12:02:52

Think for a moment how McCain is depicted in the media you watch on TV. He's called a "maverick" by those on the right, and a "flip-flopper" by those on the left. He's either praised or criticized for his policy positions and initiative ideas that seem to contain lots of voter-pandering, and very little practical detail. He's deemed either out of touch, or refreshingly "outside the beltway", despite his years spent inside that fabled doughnut road.

What you almost never hear is "hot-tempered", or "dangerously impulsive", or "easily influenced by money". Why is that? These types of personal traits - more-so than any policy position - are vitally relevant with regards to the person we choose to be in charge of a mighty military force and thousands of nuclear warheads.

McCain's temper was more openly reported back in the 2000 race when the Washington Post reported this:
While rising in the GOP presidential polls, Sen. John McCain is facing questions about what some Arizona political leaders view as his quick temper – and whether it might hinder him as president.

In a front page article and separate editorial Sunday, The Arizona Republic said it wanted the nation to know about the "volcanic" temper McCain has unleashed on several top state officials.

Those who have been on the receiving end of a McCain uproar include Republican Gov. Jane Hull, former Republican Gov. Rose Mofford and former Democratic Mayor Paul Johnson of Phoenix.

Mrs. Hull, a supporter of GOP presidential front-runner George W. Bush, has acknowledged that her relationship with McCain has been cool and told an interviewer recently McCain "has to keep control" of his temper....

.... Mrs. Hull told the Times that McCain's temper "is something that John has to keep control of." According to the Times, when Mrs. Hull was asked to describe McCain's temper she pretended to hold a telephone receiver several inches from her ear.

There's even a web-site dedicated to discussing his temper.

One post there discusses whether McCain suffers from PTSD. Is that something we want to have to worry about? The meme the Republicans would like to maintain is that McCain's military service makes him more prepared to be president. Yet we hear so much about how the experience of war leaves so many people psychologically damaged. McCain still calls the Vietnam people "gooks". If it's fair to say that his war service prepared him to be president, it's just as fair to say it left him too damaged to be president.

In the military, he was known as a hot-dogger. That seems like it could be a good thing, right? But in the military, being a "maverick" can get you and others killed. Here's video of the incident on the flight deck of the Forrestal where McCain's "wet starting" his jet resulted in a missile firing which created a deadly fire that killed scores of people (the video quality is very poor):



After the fire was finally extinguished, McCain was the first one off that aircraft carrier and he was immediately transferred. He was not, however, punished for his actions. His father the Admiral saw to that.

The one story that seems to be getting some play is the excessive donations he received from oil company employees right around the same time he changed his position on offshore drilling. So now he too is beholden to oil companies.

Hmmm... incompetence, impulsiveness, selling one's soul for oil money, influential father saving his ass. This truly could be Bush all over again. Despite McCain's attempts to distance himself from Bush, he keeps following the same patterns, and using the same language. He recently said we need to "surge the economy" (whatever the hell THAT means). He apparently also thinks it would be a good idea to arbitrarily invoke martial law and "surge" crime-ridden American cities:
When an audience member asked him how he planned to reduce urban crime, McCain praised Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s efforts in New York City before invoking the military’s tactics in Iraq as the model for crime-fighting:

MCCAIN: And some of those tactics — you mention the war in Iraq — are like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, etc.

Is this really the kind of guy that's fit to be president?... an impulsive wild west sheriff prone to fits of temper and impulsive actions? Is this the guy we want to preside over The Button? The beautiful SHINY button. The jolly CANDY-like button. WILL he hold out folks? CAN he hold out?

I think not.

(Bonus click: YouTube with some other footage about the Forrestal incident. It's a little scattered and tinfoily...)

 

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Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 12:12:40
Well said, BobR.



I should add, there are several of his Republican Senate colleagues who have expressly said they find the idea of McCain with the nuclear football distressing in the extreme.



This guy scares me, and the fact that his mental state seems to be deteriorating does little to assuage my fears.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 12:15:04
Morning :hug:

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 12:17:52
Keith Olbermann last night confirmed something I've long believed, and it rather annoys me. (I said this already, but I'm moving it to today's blog)



Salim Hamdan, after having had the court deck stacked against him six ways from Sunday and STILL only having been convicted of being driver to Osama bin Laden and sentenced to five and a half years with credit for time served, still looks to be in American prison for life.



The Administration claims it has no responsibility to release him when his sentence is up, because he's still an "enemy combatant". And because the war on terror is not a traditional war, it's not one we'll ever win (like the war on drugs, it may go well or poorly, but there will always be more terror to go after), there will never be a time when the claim that "he's a prisoner of war, and they aren't released until the war is over" can no longer be claimed.



Just one more urination on the Constitution by the Bush Administration.

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 12:21:28
BobR, can I have your permission to post (with attribution) this particular essay on my personal blog?



It says it perhaps better than I have, and I'd love to put it out there... I could link to it, but I find people are more likely to read things if they're right there than if they have to link through to another blog.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 12:29:19
Great post. I'm gonna go check the links, very interesting no doubt.



******



And a very Happy Red Sox Birthday to TriSec! :boobs:





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 12:36:42
Morning, comrades! 08/08/08! (China won't take that away from me!)



Regarding PTSD....I believe the good Dr. Maddow said it best quite some time ago...."The Iraq war won't truly be over until the last tortured vet dies in his sleep 70 years from now." Extrapolate that back to Gulf I, Vietnam, Korea, WWII.....



My dear uncle Ray, last surviving family member with WWII service, did not even serve in a war zone (mostly) He was on a fast-cargo ship in the Pacific, but was at Leyte Gulf and the Philippines. When we went to pick up Javier, he was telling us that he was there, and he got a faraway look and said "some of the things I saw...."



McCain still calling the Vietnamese "gooks" all these years later tells me he can't reconcile his past and move forward. The best of the WWII vets were able to put individual hatreds aside and move on.



Regarding the Forrestal....I'll have to check the second link a bit later. But there's plenty more information about it here.



Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 12:37:56
DaYAM!! I just watched that video of the Forrestal. I really don't know much about this incident. What is "wet starting"? And I didn't think McCain was a pilot?



Where's TriSec to 'splain this to me, before I go "googling"

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 12:38:34
I second that



Happy B-Day Tri!





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 12:40:09
One more for the non-av dorks....here's some information about a "wet start". It's considered a prank and always unsafe.



Here's a wet start with a toy engine...now imagine it full-scale.





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 12:42:32
McCain was a pilot; I'm always fighting over the semantics.



He flew an A4 Skyhawk which was a ground-attack and light bomber aircraft. (As Bob said a ways back, "so he dropped napalm on children and villages?)



He was NOT a fighter pilot, and it really irritates me that the media calls him one.





Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 12:43:16
Thanks for the link TriSec! Busy reading.......... while watching about 3 dozen wild turkeys invade my "yard".



:O

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 12:46:48
Great post BobR.



We keep waiting for this stuff to be latched onto by the M$M to the extent they held on like pirahna to Rev. Wright and Obama's perceived "flip-flops". I won't hold my breath though.



If we see McCain lose his temper during the debates (if there are any), the spin will be that Obama is a mean, uppity n*****, and he's disrespecting a genuine war hero.

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 12:49:30
Mornin, all! I'm home recuperating from pneumonia, so I am here to listen to Steph with y'alls today, and hopefully to liveblarg the Olympic opening ceremonies, if anyone's up for it.



And before I forget...



HAPPY BIRTHDEE, TRI!!!!!

















Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 12:57:30
Quote by clintster:

Mornin, all! I'm home recuperating from pneumonia, so I am here to listen to Steph with y'alls today, and hopefully to liveblarg the Olympic opening ceremonies, if anyone's up for it.



And before I forget...



HAPPY BIRTHDEE, TRI!!!!!



















Hoping for a speedy recovery, clintster.



And

Happy Birthday TriSec



:prince:



ETA: Why am I having such a problem typing lately, missing letters, transposed letters. Yuck. At least here you can edit your mistakes out, unlike the liveblog

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 13:02:04
OK, as a warm-up, I was listening to the RWW segment from yesterday. The Savage Weiner certainly seems obsessed by rape, doesn't he?

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 13:02:26
Well, according to the (reliable?) Wiki, the fire on the Forrestal was started by an electrical problem, they think, that fired a missile.



Hmmmm, I suppose we'll never really know if there was a coverup. It'd be nice to talk with someone who was on it.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/08/2008 13:02:33
Mornin' Everbodee Happee Fridee :airhump:

Excellent post BobR,

I 'm not holding my breath waiting for the M$M to catch onto this particularly terrifying trait of McSame, but I do think that blogging about it and discussing it with friends and relatives is definitely worthwhile and may yield results in November.

Thanks for all you do to maintain this blog :P

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:



Oh, and Happee Birthdee TriSec !!!

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 13:04:26
I baked my own cake....everyone can have some!



http://static.flickr.com/28/45939504_0dd5a9ff0f_m.jpg




Sorry, there was an "incident" in the kitchen...





Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 13:06:21
I have to ask, purely out of dread's sake... I notice that Donnie is posting on the "Official" liveblarg again. Does this mean he's also calling into the show again?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 13:07:28
Quote by clintster:

OK, as a warm-up, I was listening to the RWW segment from yesterday. The Savage Weiner certainly seems obsessed by rape, doesn't he?




HL: Qualifications?

??: Rape, murder, arson and rape.

HL: You said rape twice.

??: I like rape.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:09:44
Oh Shane-O



http://fostershome.epalaces.com/facepalm.png


Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 13:11:32
*grunt*



I pick today to listen, and we get a 'best-of'?



:kickcan:



I don't even have my 'pod today, gonna have to find some music, I guess.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:13:30
Tri - what is best of?

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 13:15:21
Hey folks, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRI!



:party: :party:


Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:18:44
Wait, maybe this is best of.... why is there best of today?

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 13:19:23
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by clintster:

OK, as a warm-up, I was listening to the RWW segment from yesterday. The Savage Weiner certainly seems obsessed by rape, doesn't he?




HL: Qualifications?

??: Rape, murder, arson and rape.

HL: You said rape twice.

??: I like rape.





Example of how bad Random is.

When he saw HL is mind went to Hillary << >> Forgive Random.



Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 13:20:31
:birthday: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TriSec!!


Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 13:21:43
Yeah, I heard this on today's news. The McCanns think that their daughter, Madeline, may have been abducted to Belgium and sold into sex slavery there.







I think that's what Gay-raldo was referring to.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 13:24:24
You know, it may take some research, but Grampy also has a little too much of the love for gambling...

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 13:27:41
The NovaM intro indicated that it was the "Best of Stephanie Miller" today....any word on what happened to Momma and the mooks?



(unless it's NovaM...anyone listening to the StephStream?)





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 13:30:56
Today is not a best of... At least not according to the miller website.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/08/2008 13:30:57
Heya Kids,

I don't know if anybody is interested, but yesterday the Government (read DC District Court) ruled on the Cobell v. Kempthorne Litigation (the Indian Trust Fund Case). The paltry sum that the Judge offered was $455,600,000.00. I know that the amount Eloise Cobell was expecting or at least asking for was in the billions of dollars for mismanaging the Individual Indian Money Accounts for over 120 years. If you'd like to read more about it see this link: Cobell Litigation Ruling or statement by Lead Plantiff. Once again the federales screw the Natives of this land :(

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 13:32:31
Quote by TriSec:

The NovaM intro indicated that it was the "Best of Stephanie Miller" today....any word on what happened to Momma and the mooks?



(unless it's NovaM...anyone listening to the StephStream?)



hmmm... Now I am getting confused... I can't really tell if it is a repeat based on RWW. (the stories are the same everyday)



Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 13:37:50
They're talking about Clinton speaking at the convention, so I don't think the StephStream is a best of.

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 13:41:05
Oh, but now I've gone and spooled up WGBH (Boston) for some classical music (which I rarely listen to these days....)



Momma or Mozart?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:43:28
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

The NovaM intro indicated that it was the "Best of Stephanie Miller" today....any word on what happened to Momma and the mooks?



(unless it's NovaM...anyone listening to the StephStream?)



hmmm... Now I am getting confused... I can't really tell if it is a repeat based on RWW. (the stories are the same everyday)





As far as I can tell KHPX is a repeat - the feed from the SMS site is fresh.



Bill Press was a repeat too,



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 13:43:44
See you at the Debates, bitches!



HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRI!





Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 13:44:13
I wonder if there's a satellite issue...

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 13:44:37
Quote by liam1965:

They're talking about Clinton speaking at the convention, so I don't think the StephStream is a best of.






:rofl:



Oh man, that's good.

Sadly, it's a new episode and yet we're still talking about Hils crashin' the Convention.



:rofl:



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:47:35
Quote by liam1965:

I wonder if there's a satellite issue...






That was very confusing - hope things are okay at NovaM



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 13:48:55
I think that is just going to be my response when people start yammering on about McCain and his experience and the fact that he's a "maverick."



wRight wing tool ---------> "McCain...blah, blah, blah"



:star: ------> "See you at the Debates, Bitches."

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 13:51:18
Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:54:06
I'm a little freaked McSame likes Dexter

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:55:03
Quote by starling310:

I think that is just going to be my response when people start yammering on about McCain and his experience and the fact that he's a "maverick."



wRight wing tool ---------> "McCain...blah, blah, blah"



:star: ------> "See you at the Debates, Bitches."








<---my coffee

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 13:55:29
Oh man, when they free Elsa???

Comment by m-hadley on 08/08/2008 13:56:41
Hiya Kids,

I am listening to the live stream and it is a live show - FWIW I am listening to KTLK AM 1150 out of Los Angeles, Caleeeforniya...

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 13:58:51
Quote by starling310:

Oh man, when they free Elsa???






I'm surprised no one said Old Yeller or Shane



Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 14:01:41
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Oh man, when they free Elsa???






I'm surprised no one said Old Yeller or Shane



And were we suprised that Obama picked some of the whitest shows on T.V.?



Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 14:04:55
Wonder if there are satellite issues because of the Olympics?

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/08/2008 14:06:41
Tri......... I am streaming SMS and its live.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:10:38
Didn't we learn from Michael Jordan? When you're gone, stay gone.



Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:11:22
Good morning everyone. Listening to Momma via the Stephstream and it is a new show. If KPHX is having satellite issues, we'll have to see what happens when Thom Hartmann comes on.



Happy birthday TriSec.



and also a

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 14:12:05
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Oh man, when they free Elsa???






I'm surprised no one said Old Yeller or Shane



And were we suprised that Obama picked some of the whitest shows on T.V.?





Well the Dick Van Dyke knows no boundries - funny has no color :p



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:12:23
Obama wants to take them all to Disney Land and buy them all a Coke.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 14:12:57
Quote by starling310:

Didn't we learn from Michael Jordan? When you're gone, stay gone.









Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 14:13:35
Quote by starling310:

Obama wants to take them all to Disney Land and buy them all a Coke.





You forgot he wants to teach them to sing too



Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:15:58
Has David Duke ever been sodomized in the swamp?

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 14:17:17
Random bored...Well...not really...just being random...

*Evil laughter*

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:18:32
Random, you going to have more fun with Donnie when he pops back in?

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 14:18:35
Hey Star, how'd the LA-bound traveler make out yesterday?



(Nobody piled it in overnight, so I'm guessing the outcome was positive!)





Ah, I'm deep into my 'longhair' stuff today. Which is actually helpful, I've been wrestling with a couple of duets for the past two weeks....all modulating key signatures and dotted eighth notes (a rhythm I struggle with). I gotta play me some jazz...at least I can get away with cowbell.





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 14:19:31
Obama will come to everyone's house and give us a hug and a nice bowl of chicken soup.



McCain will just kick your dog.





Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:20:30
Quote by TriSec:

Hey Star, how'd the LA-bound traveler make out yesterday?



(Nobody piled it in overnight, so I'm guessing the outcome was positive!)





Ah, I'm deep into my 'longhair' stuff today. Which is actually helpful, I've been wrestling with a couple of duets for the past two weeks....all modulating key signatures and dotted eighth notes (a rhythm I struggle with). I gotta play some jazz...at least I can get away with cowbell.







She did miss her connection and had to fly standby for the last leg of the trip.

But, she did get there safe and sound.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:21:05
Quote by TriSec:

Obama will come to everyone's house and give us a hug and a nice bowl of chicken soup.







: sigh : That's nice.



Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:21:24
Whew TRying to find a nother link ... I hope MAdison is playing the live stream.



I tried Green -- & KTLK... they both went screwy on my machine.

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 14:22:11
Quote by livingonli:

Random, you going to have more fun with Donnie when he pops back in?


If he pops back in...I may just be a nucance to the live bloggers.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:23:04
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Wonder if there are satellite issues because of the Olympics?


:foil:



Is that possible?

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 14:23:38
Quote by starling310:





She did miss her connection and had to fly standby for the last leg of the trip.

But, she did get there safe and sound.


Why weren't we alerted? We were standing by with sandwiches... :P

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:25:25
So is this supposed to be a flashlight bumper? and Buddy?

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:27:14
Has Buddy gotten anyone else lost lately?

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 14:28:32
Quote by BobR:



Why weren't we alerted? We were standing by with sandwiches... :P






In our secretive Blog Headquarters in the Atlanta Metro Region, a highly sophisticated device not unlike the Superfriends' "Troubalert" constantly monitors the whereabouts of each and every blogger. Should someone become trapped at the airport, an emergency response team stands at the ready to swoop in with sandwiches and whiskey....





http://www.antiwar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/norad.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:33:33
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:





She did miss her connection and had to fly standby for the last leg of the trip.

But, she did get there safe and sound.


Why weren't we alerted? We were standing by with sandwiches... :P




I think she got on a flight rather quickly!

But, she did tell me to thank you guys.



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:33:57
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:



Why weren't we alerted? We were standing by with sandwiches... :P






In our secretive Blog Headquarters in the Atlanta Metro Region, a highly sophisticated device not unlike the Superfriends' "Troubalert" constantly monitors the whereabouts of each and every blogger. Should someone become trapped at the airport, an emergency response team stands at the ready to swoop in with sandwiches and whiskey....





http://www.antiwar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/norad.jpg




:rofl:



Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:35:14
Fred Phelps and his Westboro Church stopped at the border....



Residents rallied Thursday to protect the family of a young man murdered on a Greyhound bus last week from a posse of radical religious protesters planning to portray Tim McLean's death as God's wrath.



Earlier this week, the Westboro Baptist Church - an organization branded as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain U.S. soldiers - announced they would picket Mr. McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.

[...]





"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."




:huh:



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:36:27
Dogs on rollerskates?



Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 14:36:34
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Random, you going to have more fun with Donnie when he pops back in?


If he pops back in...I may just be a nucance to the live bloggers.




It's OK, I'm just a nuisance to THIS blog, but no one has kicked me out (yet).



;-)

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:37:38
Wow they booed the president AT the ceremonies?!?!



Wow.

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 14:38:40
Quote by Raine:

Fred Phelps and his Westboro Church stopped at the border....



"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."




:huh:



So they all have the mark of the devil?

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:38:44
:rofl:



WE in Atlanta could still use your sympathies. WE have Saxby Shameless... and Newt... :cry:

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 14:38:51
Quote by liam1965:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Random, you going to have more fun with Donnie when he pops back in?


If he pops back in...I may just be a nucance to the live bloggers.




It's OK, I'm just a nuisance to THIS blog, but no one has kicked me out (yet).



;-)


Ahh, don't worry...You and I will be kicked out soon enough.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:39:15
Quote by Raine:

Fred Phelps and his Westboro Church stopped at the border....



Residents rallied Thursday to protect the family of a young man murdered on a Greyhound bus last week from a posse of radical religious protesters planning to portray Tim McLean's death as God's wrath.



Earlier this week, the Westboro Baptist Church - an organization branded as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain U.S. soldiers - announced they would picket Mr. McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.

[...]





"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."




:huh:





Seriously. What the f*ck is this guy's glitch?



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 14:40:51
Quote by Raine:

Wow they booed the president AT the ceremonies?!?!



Wow.






Why am I not surprised

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:43:00
Don't you feel sorry for those poor oil companies?

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:47:46
Quote by Random:

Quote by liam1965:

Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Random, you going to have more fun with Donnie when he pops back in?


If he pops back in...I may just be a nucance to the live bloggers.




It's OK, I'm just a nuisance to THIS blog, but no one has kicked me out (yet).



;-)


Ahh, don't worry...You and I will be kicked out soon enough.
now you both are being just silly.



Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 14:47:58
Quote by starling310:

Seriously. What the f*ck is this guy's glitch?





He's gay and can't accept it.



And I'm only sort of joking, it does seem like the more vociferously anti-gay someone is, the more likely they'll be caught in an airport mens room.



Speaking of which, which airport was that? We're going to be in Detroit for a few hours, I'm tempted to go searching and see if anyone has put up a plaque on the Larry Craig memorial bathroom. :-)

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:48:29
My goodness... death came to visit us and we didn't kick him out....

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 14:48:57
Quote by Raine:

now you both are being just silly.





Yes, but in fairness, that is my primary purpose in life, and I suspect Random would agree with me on that. :-)

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 14:49:20
Go Issac :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:51:26
Red white and Blue petunias?



oh no...

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:52:47
Random, Donnie's back on the other blog.

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:54:02
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Fred Phelps and his Westboro Church stopped at the border....



Residents rallied Thursday to protect the family of a young man murdered on a Greyhound bus last week from a posse of radical religious protesters planning to portray Tim McLean's death as God's wrath.



Earlier this week, the Westboro Baptist Church - an organization branded as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain U.S. soldiers - announced they would picket Mr. McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.

[...]





"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."




:huh:





Seriously. What the f*ck is this guy's glitch?



He does sound like he would meet up with Larry Craig in a restroom.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:54:19
:party: the world Largest phone bank! that is just friggin AWESOME!

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 14:54:47
Quote by Raine:

:rofl:



WE in Atlanta could still use your sympathies. WE have Saxby Shameless... and Newt... :cry:


... and Bob Barr...



(and Zell Miller - sometimes...)

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 14:54:49
Ah, I believe the Craig incident was at KMSP...



Which is going to be full of Republicans soon.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:55:31
Huh...Seems like the inexperienced candidate is making much better campaign choices.



:shrug:

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 14:55:52
The thing about Canada is they don't actually have Freedom of Speech there, at least not in the way we think American's do.



If he shows up and disrupts the funeral, they'll arrest his ass.





Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:56:51
Capt is on the SMS Live Blog if anyone wants to try and lure him back over. So far we had no success.

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 14:58:07
So, if the Republican Convention will be squeaky clean, will they keep the hookers away?

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 14:58:47
And yes Georgia is in Play!!!



:gobama:

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 14:59:03
Quote by TriSec:

The thing about Canada is they don't actually have Freedom of Speech there, at least not in the way we think American's do.



If he shows up and disrupts the funeral, they'll arrest his ass.







It bothers me that I even try to make sense of someone like him.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 15:00:02
Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:02:11
So they are going to have Dick and bush for the first night of the convention... then they are gone... interesting. Both are speaking on the same nite...

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 15:02:11
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, I believe the Craig incident was at KMSP...



Which is going to be full of Republicans soon.


Here's a map of the terminal. Anyone know which restroom is The One?



Not likely to find a plaque though... the airport is replacing all the stalls with floor to ceiling walls and doors to make it harder to "cruise".



Of course - that will make it harder to see naughtiness going on when a hookup DOES occur...

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 15:02:28
Quote by livingonli:

Capt is on the SMS Live Blog if anyone wants to try and lure him back over. So far we had no success.




I'd go and try to lure him back, but since I'm not really participating in (or even reading) the LiveBlog this week, it would be kind of rude to show up just to try to lure away someone else who IS participating...

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 15:03:32
Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 15:03:47
Quote by BobR:

Of course - that will make it harder to see naughtiness going on when a hookup DOES occur...




Which sucks for those of us who don't wish to PARTICIPATE, but just wanna watch.





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 15:05:35
Quote by Raine:

So they are going to have Dick and bush for the first night of the convention... then they are gone... interesting. Both are speaking on the same nite...




Erm, they're not supposed to do that. But wouldn't it be convenient if some tragedy were to befall Bush, Cheney, and all the Republicans all at once?



Hell, they disregard all the other rules, even the common-sense ones about the President and VP being at the same place at the same time don't even count anymore...







Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:06:18
This story is just BEGGING for Representative Squeezy...



26 Cheerleaders Stuck in Elevator



The elevator made for 15 people got stuck with a group 26 Texas High School Cheerleaders and it took almost 30 mins to repair the problem.

Thursday, August 7, 2008





Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 15:06:50
Damn it, this was supposed to be an EDIT, to put in spaces so the < /squeezy > would be visible, and instead I hit quote.



I'm a moron this morning.



Quote by liam1965:

Quote by BobR:

Of course - that will make it harder to see naughtiness going on when a hookup DOES occur...




Which sucks for those of us who don't wish to PARTICIPATE, but just wanna watch.



< /squeezy >



Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 15:07:48
Quote by liam1965:

Quote by BobR:

Of course - that will make it harder to see naughtiness going on when a hookup DOES occur...




Which sucks for those of us who don't wish to PARTICIPATE, but just wanna watch.





But who actually wants to see any of these Republicans getting their freak on? It's not like there are any porn stars in that group or anyone remotely hot.

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:08:34
I thought I was going to be contributing more here today, but the meds I'm taking are really kicking my arse.



http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/chappelle1.jpg




"Codeine's a helluva drug."



(soft, evil chuckle)

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 15:08:58
DJ with the shout out to Shane-O Classic!

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 15:09:38
Yay Shane-O!!

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:13:05
Quote by Raine:

This story is just BEGGING for Representative Squeezy...



26 Cheerleaders Stuck in Elevator



I was just informed that I missed the story on yesterdays show...



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:14:57
MY EX-GIRLFRIEND FOUND MY LUCKY RED SOX HAT THAT I THOUGHT I HAD LOST!!!!!!

And, just in time for the Post Season campaign.

And, she didn't throw it away. She gave it to a mutual friend to give back to me.

She does have a soul.

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 15:15:36
Quote by Raine:

This story is just BEGGING for Representative Squeezy...



26 Cheerleaders Stuck in Elevator



The elevator made for 15 people got stuck with a group 26 Texas High School Cheerleaders and it took almost 30 mins to repair the problem.

Thursday, August 7, 2008





Someone missed the bit yesterday... :P

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:17:05
That golf course story was huge. HYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!



(adjusts cat/toupee)

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:17:56
New MCCAin ad up... and he is still going on this celebrity kick.





This from the man with 9 houses a multimillioaire Wife, a man with chauferrs and $500 shoes.





If he had hair, I bet his haircuts would cost as much.





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 15:18:03
Ah, good for Starling!



Any member of Red Sox Nation will tell you that they do exactly the same things in exactly the same way as they did the last time the Sox won a big game.



Have I ever told you about "The Miracle Of The Radio"? (I only save that for the playoffs; that's the most powerful karma I have. You do know the Sox came back and swept the Yanks in '04 because of me, right?)





Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:20:13
Countess Chocula. YAAAYYY!!!



Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:20:16
"I'll kick til yer DEAD!"

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:21:29
:rofl:



I forgot about the God Warrior!



Comment by m-hadley on 08/08/2008 15:21:38
Eeewwww- God Warrior scares me :(

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:22:17
Gargiles! Slykicks!!! I had forgotten about the "God Warrior".



Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 15:23:13
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, good for Starling!



Any member of Red Sox Nation will tell you that they do exactly the same things in exactly the same way as they did the last time the Sox won a big game.



Have I ever told you about "The Miracle Of The Radio"? (I only save that for the playoffs; that's the most powerful karma I have. You do know the Sox came back and swept the Yanks in '04 because of me, right?)







I love living in New England as a Mets fan. I still get mileage out of Bill Buckner. Granted, not as much as before they'd managed to finally win the big one, but still.



And I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the year that BOTH the Sox and the Cubs were in the playoffs, BOTH were leading, and BOTH managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.



Mwahahahaha. :-)



Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:23:36
<---- Still my fave.



Clint you better be chilling... Pnuemonia always concerns me.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:24:04
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, good for Starling!



Any member of Red Sox Nation will tell you that they do exactly the same things in exactly the same way as they did the last time the Sox won a big game.



Have I ever told you about "The Miracle Of The Radio"? (I only save that for the playoffs; that's the most powerful karma I have. You do know the Sox came back and swept the Yanks in '04 because of me, right?)







I did know that! A heartfelt Thank You from all of Red Sox Nation!



You should have seen me, frantically looking for that hat.

I was so sad. I thought I had left it somewhere from which it would never return.





On Saturday I will get it back and can proceed to watch every Playoff game , donning my lucky hat and my Varitek shirt, wrapped in my Red Sox Blanket.

And, just for the record, I NEVER do a Rally Cap!

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:25:43
oooOOOooo Liam... you mention he who shall not be named on the blog...



(My I am just a member of the Syth... but you! )

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:26:32
Grampy en español:



"No es cambio que usted puede creer adentro, mis amigosssssssss."

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 15:30:03
Quote by Raine:

<---- Still my fave.



Clint you better be chilling... Pnuemonia always concerns me.




I'm tryin' to, Raine. I'll probably be taking another shot of codeine cough meds in a sec. BTW, while at the doc's yesterday, I had to have a steroid shot to reduce the inflamation in my throat and lungs. It didn't hurt when I got the shot, but it did start about ten minutes later. It made me a bit aggressive, though; I can understand how that stuff can cause "roid rage" with too much use.

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 15:32:40
I'm sorry; The Mets are still pond scum.



Along with "Darryl....Darrryl....Darryl...." I believe that to be a relic of the 1986 series.









Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:35:46
Quote by Raine:

New MCCAin ad up... and he is still going on this celebrity kick.





This from the man with 9 houses a multimillioaire Wife, a man with chauferrs and $500 shoes.





If he had hair, I bet his haircuts would cost as much.







From MSNBC:

But the ad makes some dubious claims:

1) When it says that Obama voted "to raise taxes on people making just $42,000," that was on a non-binding budget resolution vote that didn't actually raise or lower taxes. From Factcheck.org: "The resolution does not contain a specific provision to raise tax rates, but rather assumes that most of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire as scheduled in 2011."



2) According to Obama's economic plan, he would raise taxes only on those making more than $250,000 per year, and would provide tax cuts to those making less than that. Factcheck.org: "Obama has stated repeatedly that his plan would increase taxes only for those making more than $250,000 per year."



*** UPDATE *** NBC's Domenico Montanaro adds that, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center's analysis of both candidates' plans, by 2009, under Obama's plan, those making $37,595 would see an average increase in their income of 3.6%, or a tax cut of $892; those making an average of $66,354, would see an increase in their income of 2.4%, or a tax cut of $1,042.



On the other hand, Under McCain's plan, those making $37,595, would see an increase in their income of only about 0.5%, or $113 tax cut; those making $66,354, would see only an increase of 0.7% in their income, or a tax break of $319.

================================================



DUBIOUS? I would say the ad is filled with out and out lies.







Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:39:21


Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 15:39:33
I disagree with Frangela - we go to the public pool and see plenty of little black fishes swimming and diving...

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:39:33
http://outtheotherear.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/gr2008061200193.gif


Save it. love it. and pass it out to your friends.

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 15:49:16
Fox or not, this is alarming news.



BREAKING NEWS:Russia will cut all air communications with Georgia from midnight on Friday, a spokeswoman for the Russian Transport Ministry told Reuters



Developing Story, will be updated; read previous story below:



Parts of Russia's 58th Army — including 150 tanks and armored vehicles — reportedly were moving Friday on the capital of South Ossetia after Georgian troops entered the city in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking to control the breakaway province.



Kakha Lamaia, a member of Georgia's National Security Council, told Reuters the two countries are "very close" to war, if not already at war.



"If it's not war, then we are very close to it," Lamaia said. "The Russians have invaded Georgia and we are under attack."

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:54:32
Quote by TriSec:

Fox or not, this is alarming news.



BREAKING NEWS:Russia will cut all air communications with Georgia from midnight on Friday, a spokeswoman for the Russian Transport Ministry told Reuters



Developing Story, will be updated; read previous story below:



Parts of Russia's 58th Army — including 150 tanks and armored vehicles — reportedly were moving Friday on the capital of South Ossetia after Georgian troops entered the city in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking to control the breakaway province.



Kakha Lamaia, a member of Georgia's National Security Council, told Reuters the two countries are "very close" to war, if not already at war.



"If it's not war, then we are very close to it," Lamaia said. "The Russians have invaded Georgia and we are under attack."


This is Alarming as well:

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili stated that Russia started war with Georgia.



"It's in the interests of the United States to extend a helping hand to Georgia. Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," Saakashvili said in an interview with CNN.



"Georgia will withdraw its unit from Iraq to give a proper response to Russian aggression," he said, RBC reports.



For his part, Georgia's National Security Council head Alexander Lomaia warned Friday that Moscow and Tbilisi will be in "a state of war" if reports of Russian tanks, military trucks and troops entering South Ossetia prove true.

==============================================

:unsure:





Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 15:55:49
I guess they can just say Georgia had weapons of mass destruction. That worked so well for Bush.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 15:56:22
Wow I am so Glad that Bush is off playing at the Olympics -- leaving Darth Cheney in Charge. I feel so safe right now.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 15:57:08
I'm boycotting too Frances!!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 15:57:35
I am boycotting too - but it's because the Olympics is really really boring

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 15:59:26
Oh, I really hope Bush says something condemning of Russia for this.



He SO has the moral high ground to condemn others for human rights abuses and unnecessary wars.



< /snark >

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 16:01:32
I'm boycotting the Olympics because they seem to have cancelled all my favorite events. Where's the Luge? Where's the ski jumping?



Where's the bobsled?



< duck >

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 16:01:33
Have no intentions to watch the Olympics at all. Didn't care about the last summer one, either.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 16:01:53
Morning...errr.. afternoon all.. :p

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 16:03:52
Alright...So there. I've updated the pool...Now you can view all the latest charts and look back at the old ones. And yes...you can start betting...or not I don't care...Random brain need sleep now.



Pool

Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 16:04:01
I guess the heavy-handed approach of Russian leaders is still alive and well even with Putin not in the big chair..

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 16:04:33
Yeah, and do you think NBC is going to show the president getting booed at the ceremony on the coverage tonight?



Sure hope that surfaces on the youtubes right quick...





Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 16:05:59
Quote by Scoopster:

I guess the heavy-handed approach of Russian leaders is still alive and well even with Putin not in the big chair..




Yeah, I'm pretty certain Putin isn't pulling the strings there any more.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 16:09:47
Quote by wickedpam:

I am boycotting too - but it's because the Olympics is really really boring




I usually LOVE the Olympics!



I'm sad they are in China.

The epitome of why they shouldn't be there was a journalist reporting that the torch had passed under the image of Mao.





Uhhh...

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 16:10:28
Watch it if you dare.





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 16:11:58
Is Kucinich on Tom? is this also a repeat on the NovaM?

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 16:13:28
No I see it is a repeat. I wonder what is happening in Pheonix? I switched over to the AAR steam so I can listen on my itunes. the others streams give me a hard time.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 08/08/2008 16:14:23
Quote by Raine:

So they are going to have Dick and bush for the first night of the convention... then they are gone... interesting. Both are speaking on the same nite...




Dick and bush in one night?! We call that Saturday Night Love Buffet at Chez Izzy! Whoo hoo.



Happy Birthday Tri!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 16:18:54
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

I am boycotting too - but it's because the Olympics is really really boring




I usually LOVE the Olympics!



I'm sad they are in China.

The epitome of why they shouldn't be there was a journalist reporting that the torch had passed under the image of Mao.





Uhhh...








I don't enjoy the televised sports so its very hard to me to connect with stuff like the Olympic's that the world seems to be all geared up for.



Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 16:19:47
Obama is the Antichrist?



McCain keeps sinking lower and lower.





You know, when a ship sinks, unless it is catastrophically damaged, it will flood slowly and sink lower and lower until it reaches the point where it is no longer buoyant. At that point the ship suddenly plunges to the bottom, an event called "downflooding".



We're just waiting for that moment here in the McCain campaign...



Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 16:20:02
if you carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow





I am not going out of my way this year for the olympics. I don't begrudge those that WILL watch it..

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 16:27:55
Argh! - I've tried KHPX - repeat

AAR - no audio

AM 1360 - can't tell if its a repeat

Comment by livingonli on 08/08/2008 16:30:04
Since it's Friday usually Bernie Sanders would be on.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 16:30:43
Quote by wickedpam:

Argh! - I've tried KHPX - repeat

AAR - no audio

AM 1360 - can't tell if its a repeat




www.green960.com





Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 16:30:45
Bernie was on just cant tell if it's new or old Bernie

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 16:32:19
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Argh! - I've tried KHPX - repeat

AAR - no audio

AM 1360 - can't tell if its a repeat




www.green960.com









danke darlin'



Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 16:39:45
Quote by Random:

Alright...So there. I've updated the pool...Now you can view all the latest charts and look back at the old ones. And yes...you can start betting...or not I don't care...Random brain need sleep now.



Pool




Okay...I fixed it...The links work...and i'm letting my brain sleep again.

Comment by liam1965 on 08/08/2008 16:56:31
Re-watching something from a few weeks ago.



The Hammer is my penis.




I love this show!

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 17:13:24
Warning: Watching this may make you not want to eat meat, ever again.

Meet Your Meat

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 17:15:01
I'm thinking we won't be seeing these folks in Beijing...









Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 17:56:58
mmmmm......caaaake.



:munchbitechew:





My favorite, too....chocolate with white frosting. Somebody around here was doing their homework!



Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 18:43:07
I broke the blog! ME! : thumps chest :



Oh, wait...



:kickcan:





Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 18:51:40
Quote by TriSec:

I broke the blog! ME! : thumps chest :



Oh, wait...



:kickcan:







You look awful ronery there.



Just 40 more minutes..........c'mon clock....go!



Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 18:55:34
I think people are prepping their boobies for Randi.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 19:00:18
Hey guys, Liz is supposed to be on the Mike O'Meara show today promoting her stand up in Arlington. Be warned it is guy talk radio.



MIke O'Meara Show

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 19:08:30
It's Fridee, ya bahstads!







Sorry, I've been sick.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 19:09:53












:bounce:



Happy Friday Ya Bastids!

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:10:01
Breaking on MSNBC: John Edwards has admitted to having an affair... denies he is the father of the baby.



Raine is very disappointed right now.

Comment by clintster on 08/08/2008 19:11:22
Men SSssstttick out all over the place...



Big fat cigars,



Big fat bellies,



And just where they should stick out...

(Oh my Gawd!)

Where is it???!?





My favorite part of the song.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 19:11:56
Edwards admist lying about the extra marital affair.





Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 19:12:31
Quote by Raine:

Breaking on MSNBC: John Edwards has admitted to having an affair... denies he is the father of the baby.



Raine is very disappointed right now.




I am taking back my bounce.

This news leaves me bounceless.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 19:12:32
Quote by Raine:

Breaking on MSNBC: John Edwards has admitted to having an affair... denies he is the father of the baby.



Raine is very disappointed right now.






Your not the only one. :kick:



I know he's only human. I just feel awful for Elizabeth and the kids.



Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 19:12:47




















Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:12:52
:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:



It's Friday you bahstahds!

:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :penis::boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2: :gobama::boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2: :boobs2:

:boobs2: :boobs2:

Late is bettah than nevah!


Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 19:14:01
:reads below:



eeep!





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:14:21
Very nice bouncing this week!!



(especially Clinster rising from the death bead to shake what he's got! )

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:19:10
Randi talking about China plucking up children for the olympics... hasn't this been done by most communist countries? (east Germany, USSR, Korea)







Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:21:50
I think she (the woman in question) has denied that he was the father.



YouknowI know, as mala said... he's human... but forfucksake... he was running for President... in this age and time.



And we really could have used him for the fall election season. Knucklehead.

Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 19:27:02
Where's Scoop? I dug up an old fave, listening to some Goa-Psy Trance via "Digitally Imported"....





Comment by TriSec on 08/08/2008 19:31:53
Oh, and score one more for the light side of the force.



A dear friend at work (my 'office wife', as a matter-of-fact) is originally from Pennsylvania, and is as straight-laced and conservative as they come. Anyway, we were talking politics today, as we often do, and she told me she's looking forward to having the first African-American President...."it's about damn time.". She went on to say, I'm glad we don't vote on the candidates' wives...I hate Cindy.



So, another blue voter!



Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 19:32:04
btw.. happy birthday Tri!



http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mario_cake.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 19:34:02
Quote by TriSec:

Where's Scoop? I dug up an old fave, listening to some Goa-Psy Trance via "Digitally Imported"....




...and what timing too! I'm here n there.. very busy because I have to pick up the slack from our best sales girl being out on a personal LOA.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 19:35:15
Quote by Raine:

Breaking on MSNBC: John Edwards has admitted to having an affair... denies he is the father of the baby.



Raine is very disappointed right now.




OH... FUCK... :thud:

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 19:45:39
Quote by Raine:

I think she (the woman in question) has denied that he was the father.



YouknowI know, as mala said... he's human... but forfucksake... he was running for President... in this age and time.



And we really could have used him for the fall election season. Knucklehead.




And, his wife has..........CANCER!





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:47:12
I have a feeling that the Obama Campaign told Edwards... You better come clean when I am away on vacation. I do not want to deal with this in the campaign trail.



In the meantime... this is going to be more time the media won't focus on John McCain.. and btw... Where is Vivkie Eisman???

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:51:48
Political Suicide. He committed suicide.



the reports on msnbc say that the affair happened while Elizabeth was still in remission, in 2006. I am looking for a legitimate time line to this entire mess. The GOP needs to sit down and shut up before they say one damn thing... cause I will continue to ask about Vickie Iseman...



:( what the F, man. What the hell was he thinking?

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 19:53:08
John and Elizabeth are going to release a statement shortly.... I had to turn off the sound.

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 19:56:19
Quote by Raine:

I have a feeling that the Obama Campaign told Edwards... You better come clean when I am away on vacation. I do not want to deal with this in the campaign trail.



In the meantime... this is going to be more time the media won't focus on John McCain.. and btw... Where is Vivkie Eisman???




Can i point out that he's a man in power? and no man in power is ever clean when it comes to sex. I don't care. I'm sure both Bushes had tail on the side, we know Clinton did. I'm sure as hell Obama if he hasn't cheated at least once, he will in the next eight years.



Edwards had sex with another woman. Big fuckin deal. Who cares. Now he has to deal with the wrath of his wife (if this wasn't some sort of thing they agreed on. I hear that happens now) and scorn of his children.



I like Edwards, and him cheating doesn't change my opinion a bit of him. I'd be suprised if he was clean.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 19:57:08
Quote by Raine:

Political Suicide. He committed suicide.



the reports on msnbc say that the affair happened while Elizabeth was still in remission, in 2006. I am looking for a legitimate time line to this entire mess. The GOP needs to sit down and shut up before they say one damn thing... cause I will continue to ask about Vickie Iseman...



:( what the F, man. What the hell was he thinking?




He wasn't thinking.



<------ doing the thinking.

Comment by starling310 on 08/08/2008 20:02:10
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

I have a feeling that the Obama Campaign told Edwards... You better come clean when I am away on vacation. I do not want to deal with this in the campaign trail.



In the meantime... this is going to be more time the media won't focus on John McCain.. and btw... Where is Vivkie Eisman???




Can i point out that he's a man in power? and no man in power is ever clean when it comes to sex. I don't care. I'm sure both Bushes had tail on the side, we know Clinton did. I'm sure as hell Obama if he hasn't cheated at least once, he will in the next eight years.



Edwards had sex with another woman. Big fuckin deal. Who cares. Now he has to deal with the wrath of his wife (if this wasn't some sort of thing they agreed on. I hear that happens now) and scorn of his children.



I like Edwards, and him cheating doesn't change my opinion a bit of him. I'd be suprised if he was clean.




To an extent I agree with you. Cheating is a private matter between the spouses.

But, the fact that Elizabeth has Cancer, makes it really icky.



I was kind of hoping she'd come out and say "Because of my illness, I gave John my blessing to go have his 'needs met.'" Wink. Wink.

Buuuut...

I doubt it.





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:04:48
Interesting tidbit about this woman...



On the deleted pages, the 44-year-old Hunter (formerly known as Lisa Druck) discusses her former hard partying days, her search for enlightenment, and her issues with drugs and debt. There is a 2005 interview she did with one-time boyfriend Jay McInerney, in which the celebrated novelist reveals that Hunter was the basis for Alison Poole, the main character of his book, Story of My Life.



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Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 20:05:50
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

I have a feeling that the Obama Campaign told Edwards... You better come clean when I am away on vacation. I do not want to deal with this in the campaign trail.



In the meantime... this is going to be more time the media won't focus on John McCain.. and btw... Where is Vivkie Eisman???




Can i point out that he's a man in power? and no man in power is ever clean when it comes to sex. I don't care. I'm sure both Bushes had tail on the side, we know Clinton did. I'm sure as hell Obama if he hasn't cheated at least once, he will in the next eight years.



Edwards had sex with another woman. Big fuckin deal. Who cares. Now he has to deal with the wrath of his wife (if this wasn't some sort of thing they agreed on. I hear that happens now) and scorn of his children.



I like Edwards, and him cheating doesn't change my opinion a bit of him. I'd be suprised if he was clean.




To an extent I agree with you. Cheating is a private matter between the spouses.

But, the fact that Elizabeth has Cancer, makes it really icky.



I was kind of hoping she'd come out and say "Because of my illness, I gave John my blessing to go have his 'needs met.'" Wink. Wink.

Buuuut...

I doubt it.





Maybe...doesn't matter. It's icky with the wife, and yeah, i can see why it's not lookin good for john. But in the end. He's an extremly good looking guy who is in power. He's gonna get action, sooner or later he'd crack and fall off the wagon. Lets not pretend that he doesn't get offers from women a lot.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 20:10:14
Quote by wickedpam:

Hey guys, Liz is supposed to be on the Mike O'Meara show today promoting her stand up in Arlington. Be warned it is guy talk radio.



MIke O'Meara Show




Lizz is on now



Comment by Scoopster on 08/08/2008 20:11:38
.... and the skies darken, the thunder rolls, and the rain pours down overhead here.



I just wanna go out and stand in it. That's how shitty I feel right now after seeing this story.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 20:12:48
she is talking some AAR gossip

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:13:32
I agree that yes. IT is a private affair... it is between he and Elizabeth... to all that I agree... but in this day and age of politics for the love of gawd...



Something however really smells about this story. Sam Stein Blogged about this last october:
A set of short documentary film "webisodes" made for former Sen. John Edwards prior to his presidential candidacy continues to weave a curious web, this time involving the filmmaker.



The videos, which cost Edwards' One America Committee $114,461, were produced in 2006 by an aspiring actress/producer named Rielle Hunter, who proposed the idea to the senator in a bar in New York City. The objective was to give viewers - and presumably voters - an authentic look at the North Carolinian. But shortly after Edwards declared his White House aspirations, the footage all but disappeared from public view. After the Huffington Post wrote about the webisodes, the videos resurfaced, both on YouTube and Webcastr.com, although the anonymous individual who reposted them (user name: "MissingVideos") has not responded to emails.






Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:18:20
The videos, turned up about three weeks after her final payment from America One Pac.







Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:19:15
Quote by wickedpam:

she is talking some AAR gossip
Details?







Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 20:22:51
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

she is talking some AAR gossip
Details?









Right after she called Jerry boring and that the guy in Guam who supposedly had the money for the network got arrested - the stream crashed for a few minutes. She's talking Shoot the Messenger now



Comment by wickedpam on 08/08/2008 20:30:00
Yeah! SHe just said Rachel was amazing and funny!

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:34:07
Midline production has a nearly non existant website:

http://midlinegroove.com/



I googled Hunters producing partner Mimi Hockmann... All I got was that she was a set decorator for one movie on imdb, and maybe a party events planner. http://mimihockman.com/mh_atc.html



Curiouser and curiouser, I tell you.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:44:20
Jay McInerney has said in interviews that the character of Alison Poole was based on his former girlfriend Rielle Hunter, then named Lisa Druck.



The character of Alison Poole has also been featured in the novels of Bret Easton Ellis, including American Psycho, in which she is sexually assaulted by the protagonist Patrick Bateman, and plays a major role in Glamorama as the girlfriend of protagonist Victor Ward.
From Wiki.







Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 20:50:36
Is it me or does it sound like Rielle Hunter did a little blackmali type stuff to become famous?



(I know, I am prolly boring y'all with this one) and I am not trying to shift blame, for this affair -- I am just trying to understand what the heck is going on, here.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 21:15:35
Shades of Gary Hart I tell you. that is how I am feeling today.

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 21:26:15
Random is going to go stare at his blog pool now..,.

Comment by BobR on 08/08/2008 21:29:11
My brother sent an email to our other senator Johnny Isakson (not Saxby Chambliss) regarding impeachment of Bush. This was the reply (bold-face mine):



Thank you for contacting me regarding President Bush. I appreciate hearing from you, and I am glad to have the opportunity to respond.



I respectfully disagree that the President should be impeached for the reasons cited in your letter or for any reason.



Thank you again for contacting me. Please visit my webpage at http://isakson.senate.gov/ for more information on the issues important to you and to sign up for my e-newsletter.


Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 21:30:56
Dazed and confused...





Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 21:46:30
Quote by BobR:

My brother sent an email to our other senator Johnny Isakson (not Saxby Chambliss) regarding impeachment of Bush. This was the reply (bold-face mine):



Thank you for contacting me regarding President Bush. I appreciate hearing from you, and I am glad to have the opportunity to respond.



I respectfully disagree that the President should be impeached for the reasons cited in your letter or for any reason.



Thank you again for contacting me. Please visit my webpage at http://isakson.senate.gov/ for more information on the issues important to you and to sign up for my e-newsletter.
For any reason... so he now considered untouchable.







Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/08/2008 21:56:57
Sad, Raine. If this was a Democrat it would be leading every pundit's show.



Cats are hiding, it almost looks like night.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 22:15:01
Mondo left a message!!!



He is *officially a free man!*

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 22:16:18
:nervous: stay safe Rabbit!!!

Comment by Random on 08/08/2008 22:21:13
Elizebeth is accountable -

According to pyscho lady.

Comment by Raine on 08/08/2008 22:22:16
My gawd...



2.5 minutes... HE does not have evidence that WT7 collapsed...





Comment by clintster on 08/09/2008 02:54:12
Watching the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, and I saw something that just made my blood boil; as if I needed more of that after today. As the national teams have been walking in, they've gone to occasional shots of the President and First Lady sitting in the Dignitaries Section.



Just now, as the Thai team was walking past, they cut to a shot of Bush slumped down into his seat, clutching the American flag, and tapping the flag against his leg. For being the leader of our nation, and the chief representative of a party that stresses godlike reverence to the flag, he seemed a bit... nonchalant about the one he was holding. Then again, it seems like an appropriate representation of how he's treated this nation over the past 7 1/2 years. Either way, I'm a bit pissed at his lack of respect. I may not support an anti-flag burning amendment, but that just seems a bit rude.



OK, back to the parade and the torch lighting.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/09/2008 02:55:42
WoHooooo! What's up my bitches!?! Just back from the ballet. How's ya'll doing? What's the news..............





Ah CRUD.









Comment by liam1965 on 08/09/2008 02:55:44
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hey guys, Liz is supposed to be on the Mike O'Meara show today promoting her stand up in Arlington. Be warned it is guy talk radio.



MIke O'Meara Show




Lizz is on now





Hey, I haven't lived in DC for 12 years now, and the local AM station that we used to get there show on was part of the big purge when they went from being a "free syndication, but we get half the ad time" to a "you get all the air time and pay us to broadcast our show" syndication deal, but...



What happened to Don Geronimo? I listened to Mike this afternoon, I was kind of disappointed, I think he was better as a sidekick. Actually, I was rather surprised to hear that he was generally liberal, I always got the sense that Don & Mike were fairly conservative types.



But what happened to Don?



(By the way, and interesting note, back when I used to listen to the show, there was Don Geronimo, Mike O'Meara, Buzz Burbank and ... I can't recall her name, I keep thinking it was "Kristi", but I might be thinking of "Kristi Lee" from the Bob & Tom show. Anyway, Don Geronimo's real name is Mike Sorce, and Buzz Burbank's real name is Mike... I'm blanking on the last name. But I always used to wonder if Kristi's real name was also Mike, since the rest all were).

Comment by Random on 08/09/2008 03:02:07
Silence...wow four hours of silence...nothign that good on TV.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/09/2008 03:21:27
Quote by Raine:

Mondo left a message!!!



He is *officially a free man!*


What's the deal? Was Mondo in jail? :blink:



Comment by livingonli on 08/09/2008 03:25:53
I was trapped in my own salt mine with the Little League playoffs which determine which teams go to the Little League world series. This series was a joint production between MSG and NESN.



I am pooped. Now that Mondo is free when will Livin' get liberated?

Comment by livingonli on 08/09/2008 03:38:28
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

Mondo left a message!!!



He is *officially a free man!*


What's the deal? Was Mondo in jail? :blink:



Freed in that he is no longer employed at crappy job.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/09/2008 03:46:57
Oh good for Mondo!! (I think?).

Comment by clintster on 08/09/2008 04:09:21
And for those that missed it, our only President showing great respect for the American flag: