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Author: BobR    Date: 08/15/2008 12:25:10

Diverting from politics (for the most part), there are some promising developments in the health arena that warrant some attention. Three diseases - all with a relationship to the auto-immune system - are being targeted with new discoveries and developments in medicine. Will we see cures for AIDS, cancer, and rheumatoid arthritis in our lifetime?

Cancer - the Big C - has always been a devastating disease, since it can attack nearly any organ in the human body. Most treatments involve a drug that kills fast growing cells. However, since hair and intestines have fast growing cells, these treatments cause hair loss and nausea, and aren't 100% effective. A new treatment plan uses the body's auto-immune system to attack the cells:
Cancer patients have been left free of the disease after being treated with a new drug which harnesses the power of their own immune cells.

Four of 38 patients with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma have seen the disease complete regressions following treatment, while five others saw reductions of 50 per cent in their tumours.

While the trials were only carried out on patients with blood cancer, it is hoped the methods can be adapted to tackle other cancers

The drug, which could prove cheaper than other therapies that try to achieve the same effect with cells, works by activating the body's own defences to attack the cancer.

The results have been described as an "exciting" and "significant" development in the use of immunotherapy, the process of using the body's own immune system to fight disease.

While the trials were only carried out on patients with the blood cancer, it is hoped the methods can be adapated to tackle other cancers...

...Earlier this year doctors announced that a patient with advanced skin cancer was free of the disease two years after they injected him with billions of his own immune cells using a different method. However, experts warned at the time that the process could prove extremely expensive.

The development of the drug could prove a much cheaper alternative way of providing immunotherapy treatments.

Rheumatoid arthritis has been difficult to treat because it's caused by the body's own auto-immune system attacking the joints. Researchers in the U.K. may have found a vaccine against the disease:
The treatment works like a vaccine and could be available within five years. Cells would be taken from the body, altered, and injected back into the affected joint.

A team at Newcastle University will now test the vaccine on volunteers with the disease...

...The vaccine works by reprogramming the body's own immune cells.

Using chemicals, steroids and Vitamin D, the team has devised a way to manipulate a patient's white blood cells so they surpress, rather than activate, the immune system.

It is thought the cells will then act as a brake on the over-reacting immune system and stop it attacking its own joints.

Although a similar technique has been used in cancer research, this is the first time it has been adapted to rheumatoid arthritis.

Okay, so the bad news?
Prof Silman said the treatment may prove expensive as each patient would have to have their own cells taken and manipulated rather than a drug which can be made in bulk and prescribed to all people with a condition.

He said it would be unlikely that the vaccine could be offered in normal local hospitals because of the expertise necessary to manipulate the cells in the laboratory.

Finally, finding a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS has been the Holy Grail of medicine ever since the disease was identified. There are two promising fronts for a cure; the first involves using an epilepsy drug to flush the disease out of its hiding places:
Researchers have announced that very early studies of the seizure medication valproic acid indicate the medication may help "flush out" HIV from remote areas in the body that are difficult to reach with conventional therapies. The very small trial combined conventional HIV medications with the seizure medication valproic acid.

For years, scientists have tried without success to attack the HIV hidden deep in the DNA of human cells. This latent (not presently active) HIV lays in wait for an opportunity to multiply and flourish, usually in the absence of effective HIV treatment. Scientist theorize that if they could eliminate this collection of latent HIV, the possibly then exists that HIV could be totally cleared from the body. Simply put, scientists believe if the latent HIV can be attacked, the potential for a cure is greatly increased.

Scientists are also studying the biochemistry of a woman who is naturally immune to the disease:
A woman who has never shown symptoms of infection with the AIDS virus may hold the secret to defeating the virus, U.S. researchers said on Tuesday.

Infected at least 10 years ago by her husband, the woman is able somehow to naturally control the deadly and incurable virus -- even though her husband must take cocktails of strong HIV drugs to control his.

She is a so-called "elite suppressor," and studies of her immune cells have begun to offer clues to how her body does it, the team at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore said.

"This is the best evidence to date that elite suppressors can have fully pathogenic virus," said Dr. Joel Blankson, who led the study...

... Both the man and the woman, who are from Baltimore, were diagnosed 10 years ago, Blankson said. The husband is a former injecting drug user.

Tests showed that immune cells known as CD8 T-cells from the wife stalled HIV replication by as much as 90 percent, while the husband's T-cells stopped it by only 30 percent, Blankson's team reported in the Journal of Virology.

Her virus has also mutated in apparent response to this immune attack, becoming weaker, while her husband's virus has remained strong.

"Elite suppression offers clues to vaccine researchers on many fronts: how CD8 killer T-cells can attack HIV and how a stronger immune response can force HIV into a permanent defensive state," Blankson said.

"We are trying to figure out exactly how the T-cells work in her to inhibit viral replication," he added. "We are just trying to see what kind of cytokines they make."

Researchers in China are testing an AIDS vaccine (considering it's China, you have to wonder if these people are volunteers). Tests have shown a that the vaccine seems to work:
According to Chinese authorities, preliminary tests of its first AIDS vaccine indicate it could protect people against the HIV virus.
The State Food and Drug Administration says of the 49 healthy men and women, aged 18-50 who took part in a first phase trial, none experienced severe adverse reactions.

The participants were divided into eight groups and were sampled 5 to 10 times during the 180-day period of the trial after taking both low and high dosages.

The researchers say they showed a reasonably positive immune response towards the virus, and the higher the dosage, the better their reaction.

The group also received DNA fragments of HIV-1 and according to the research team, some developed immunity to HIV-1 two weeks after being vaccinated; this they believe indicates that the vaccine stimulates the immune system.

The researchers are still analysing the trial results before making a decision on whether further tests should be carried out.

Of course - the idea of an AIDS vaccine scares some people. If an AIDS vaccine is successful, there is some talk of making it "mandatory" for all people. I'm not sure where that idea comes from (perhaps from those that think it's a "gay disease"). It has inspired at least one web site decrying the idea, and spreading falsehoods. Example:
The vaccine has been tested on children in Africa who died and is being tested on children in the U.S. right now. The fate of other "volunteers" is not known, having been kept as a virtual state secret by the health establishment.
If you want to know where the bozo that runs this site is coming from, it's all right here.

Caveat Emptor

 

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Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 12:42:16
Morning, comrades!



Ah, I disagree; medical advances are often reliant on politics, whether it's making a favorable regulatory climate, providing seed money, or simply making it a priority for research.



Stem Cells are just one of many examples. But we can't use them because they come from sweet, innocent babies!



God forbid that mankind should use the intellect and ingenuity that God himself gave us to improve the lives of everyone. (Did God forbid it? What bible passage states "Thou shalt not invent drugs to treat disease?)



I have used this off and on in my signature file (depending on my mood):



"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

Galileo Galilei

Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)



Seeing how he made out under the Catholic Church, I'd imagine Mr. Galilei knew what he was talking about...









Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 12:48:42
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 12:52:33
Rachel now discussing "Obama Nation" and how it was artificially propped up via 'bulk sales'.



Scientology has done that for decades; they'll buy thousands of copies of "Dianetics" themselves, and distribute them among the new members. Or, they'll turn up in the second-hand stores in 6 months time.



If anyone is really and truly interested in reading that piece of fiction (or lining a birdcage with it), you'll be able to pick it up by the dozen at your local "Buck a Book" by Thanksgiving...





Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:01:58
One more thing from KO[Maddow] last night....the number of Republicans who have suddenly had "schedule conflicts" with the Convention...



On the list is Maine's senator Susan Collins. I did my homework on her when we were investigating moving to Maine....she's one of the good ones, a real old-school Republican. She has teamed up with our own Senator Kennedy on many pieces of legislation relevant to New England...so I'd count her as a "friendly", or at least someone we can work with.





Comment by velveeta jones on 08/15/2008 13:06:03
:drool: He's GOT the Velveeta vote! (Could someone push the couch closer to me?).



:thud:



http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/velveeta_jones/people/hotbama.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:12:07
Momma with the big words!



I uh....had to go look up "catharsis".









Comment by m-hadley on 08/15/2008 13:12:38
Wow Velveeta,

Me likee, me likee, me likee very mucho :D

Happee Fridee Everybodee!!!

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 13:13:21
SMS Hero :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 13:14:18
"You Are Shane-O" "You Are DJ" :rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:15:21
Being the underdog is fine, unless we're talking Rotweiller-on-Miniature Schnauzer action...





Comment by velveeta jones on 08/15/2008 13:15:56
Great post Bobber! My better half has RA, or, a type of it. She will NOT do steroids any longer though. She hates them. And she say's she's already had her share of "chemicals".



:p ;)

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 13:16:11
Quote by TriSec:

One more thing from KO[Maddow] last night....the number of Republicans who have suddenly had "schedule conflicts" with the Convention...



On the list is Maine's senator Susan Collins. I did my homework on her when we were investigating moving to Maine....she's one of the good ones, a real old-school Republican. She has teamed up with our own Senator Kennedy on many pieces of legislation relevant to New England...so I'd count her as a "friendly", or at least someone we can work with.





Random comment on scheduleing conflicts.

Hasn't the Dem. and Rep. Conventions basically been set for over a year now (correct me if i'm wrong). So their is a high probability that NONE of these people would have scheduled anything before the date was set.

So, either these people are incompetant and set something up during probably one of the more important events of either party. Or they want to run so fast away from McCain.



Now, assuming the latter, does that mean these people would rather seem incompetant, than moving away from McCain.



What does that say about Republican leaders?



Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 13:18:19
Quote by TriSec:

Being the underdog is fine, unless we're talking Rotweiller-on-Miniature Schnauzer action...





I'd like to put a thousand on the Schnauzer please.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:19:28
Ah Random, it's being diplomatic.



"Schedule Conflict" is code for "I don't want to be seen with that fuck!"



It actually makes me think more highly of those not going; perhaps there is a shred of integrity and decency under there somewhere.



Of course for some of them, it's opportunistic; I'd wonder how many of them are up for re-election in a closely contested district, and they can't afford taking a risky ride on a coattail?





Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 13:22:10
Quote by TriSec:

Ah Random, it's being diplomatic.



"Schedule Conflict" is code for "I don't want to be seen with that fuck!"



It actually makes me think more highly of those not going; perhaps there is a shred of integrity and decency under there somewhere.



Of course for some of them, it's opportunistic; I'd wonder how many of them are up for re-election in a closely contested district, and they can't afford taking a risky ride on a coattail?





Well, see, i know it's being diplomatic. It's code and all that. But really...it makes them sound kind of stupid to schedule something during the convention. I'd have more respect if the did say "I don't want to be seen with that fuck!".

Maybe random just sees things differently.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:28:45
Regarding "Screaming Baby Airlines"...



I have personally transported a screaming baby halfway around the world. (Manila-Nagoya-Detroit-Manchester (NH)).



The key difference is buying a seat. Most airlines will allow an infant (under 2 years old) to ride for free on a lap.



When we flew home, we bought a seat for Javier. He was comfortable and mostly quiet during the 26 hours we were airborne. Other babies on the same flight (those riding in laps) screamed for maybe 20 of the 26 hours. (I'll yield that Javi was screaming for maybe 3 hours total out of that same 26. And not all at once.)



Anyway, my $.02









Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 13:34:40
I thought it had something to do with the air pressure in the cabin that hurt there little ears that made them cry

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 13:36:15
Oooh - McCain is doing that fundraiser with Ralph Reed right here in Atlanta!!



Of course - the protest is going to be occurring at the same time that I'm picking Raine up from the airport, so we may not be able to participate...

:kickcan:

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 13:45:49
Morning all. :coffee2:





Reading last night and highlighted the following:



"Sudan's Big Men have excelled in their peculiar environment by mastering two intertwined requirements of power. The first is the art of manipulating potent symbols, masking one's personal agenda in a larger legitimating cause. It must be a cause which justifies extreme measures, and for which poeple are willing to sacrifice their lives. The second requirement is to accomodate this larger cause to the economic forces that predominate in conditions of total anarchy."




Sound familiar?

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:51:04
Quote by wickedpam:

I thought it had something to do with the air pressure in the cabin that hurt there little ears that made them cry




Well, that too. There's a reason that the "emergency altitude" is 10,000 feet. (if the plane loses pressure, the crew puts on their oxygen masks and gets the plane into a maximum-descent dive). Anyway, the cabin is usually pressurized to 8,000 feet or so.



That's actually one of the bigger selling points about the new Boeing "Dreamliner/787" that's coming online in the next year or so...it's designed to be pressurised to 6,000 feet, so everyone will be more comfortable and it may actually reduce the number of screaming babies on board.





Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 13:51:06
:coffee: Hola guten morgen!

Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 13:52:16
Quote by BobR:

Oooh - McCain is doing that fundraiser with Ralph Reed right here in Atlanta!!



Of course - the protest is going to be occurring at the same time that I'm picking Raine up from the airport, so we may not be able to participate...

:kickcan:


If you can go.. you should! I can get myself back up to town babe!



Good morning loverly!

Comment by m-hadley on 08/15/2008 13:53:41
Quote by Raine:

:coffee: Hola guten morgen!




Heya Raine,

Hows' the trip going? So you fly home tomorrow or today? Travel safe and hope you don't sit next to any screamin' babies :cry:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:



Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 13:54:01
Say, are any other movies opening the same weekend as that "American Vomit Carol"?



Sure love to see that one tank....





Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 13:56:47
What weekend does it open?

Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 13:57:18
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

:coffee: Hola guten morgen!




Heya Raine,

Hows' the trip going? So you fly home tomorrow or today? Travel safe and hope you don't sit next to any screamin' babies :cry:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

I fly home monday.... Oh dear.. I think I just remembered...



Anyone want to do the blog that morning?



Right now I am at my friends house... with Elanor (4.5) her best Friend forver, leona... and elli's little brother Luke 1.5 years... we are listening to the *Background Gang* on the cd and the girls are playing dress up... the have prcoeeded to dress up Luke and he currrently is wearing a furry Purple hat, a boa and a yellow skirt..



These are awesome kids.



Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 13:59:51
Quote by Raine:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

:coffee: Hola guten morgen!




Heya Raine,

Hows' the trip going? So you fly home tomorrow or today? Travel safe and hope you don't sit next to any screamin' babies :cry:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

I fly home monday.... Oh dear.. I think I just remembered...



Anyone want to do the blog that morning?



Right now I am at my friends house... with Elanor (4.5) her best Friend forver, leona... and elli's little brother Luke 1.5 years... we are listening to the *Background Gang* on the cd and the girls are playing dress up... the have prcoeeded to dress up Luke and he currrently is wearing a furry Purple hat, a boa and a yellow skirt..



These are awesome kids.





Luke! You go girl!



Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 14:01:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

:coffee: Hola guten morgen!




Heya Raine,

Hows' the trip going? So you fly home tomorrow or today? Travel safe and hope you don't sit next to any screamin' babies :cry:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

I fly home monday.... Oh dear.. I think I just remembered...



Anyone want to do the blog that morning?



Right now I am at my friends house... with Elanor (4.5) her best Friend forver, leona... and elli's little brother Luke 1.5 years... we are listening to the *Background Gang* on the cd and the girls are playing dress up... the have prcoeeded to dress up Luke and he currrently is wearing a furry Purple hat, a boa and a yellow skirt..



These are awesome kids.



the 18th? Wasn't i doing that blog?

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:02:01
This Russia situation is makin' me a wee bit nervous.

And, Poland ok'd the Missile station?!?



This is not good.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 14:03:34
Quote by Raine:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

:coffee: Hola guten morgen!




Heya Raine,

Hows' the trip going? So you fly home tomorrow or today? Travel safe and hope you don't sit next to any screamin' babies :cry:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

I fly home monday.... Oh dear.. I think I just remembered...



Anyone want to do the blog that morning?



Right now I am at my friends house... with Elanor (4.5) her best Friend forver, leona... and elli's little brother Luke 1.5 years... we are listening to the *Background Gang* on the cd and the girls are playing dress up... the have prcoeeded to dress up Luke and he currrently is wearing a furry Purple hat, a boa and a yellow skirt..



These are awesome kids.







awww - and cuteness will ensue :p



Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 14:09:25
Quote by Raine:



If you can go.. you should! I can get myself back up to town babe!



Good morning loverly!


We can probably figure out a way for us both to go...

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 14:10:31
Okay - as far as I can tell that American Carol is suppose to open October 3



Also opening that weekend.



October 3

An American Carol

Vivendi Entertainment



Appaloosa

New Line Cinema





wide release



Beverly Hills Chihuahua

Walt Disney Pictures



Blindness

Miramax Films



The Express

Universal Pictures



How to Lose Friends and Alienate People ( I want to see this one. Its from Simon Pegg who did HOt Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead)





Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist

Screen Gems











Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 14:11:07
I love the tributes :D

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:12:44
Morning all. It's nice to sleep in one's own bed. my parents guest room has a day bed It has many interesting stress position simulating lumps in it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:16:04
: Ties vein off, slides the needle full o' Momma in : Ahhh that is good stuff!

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 14:17:02
That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 14:17:22
Good morning everyone.



Friday is finally here. Yay.

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 14:18:16
Quote by Random:



the 18th? Wasn't i doing that blog?


That's what I thought?

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 14:21:27
Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:22:08
Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."





Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 14:22:17
Quote by Random:



the 18th? Wasn't i doing that blog?


yes.



Someone just forgot.... ;)

Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 14:22:41
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:



the 18th? Wasn't i doing that blog?


That's what I thought?


Random was gonna do fun stuff with numbers. That...and probably update stuff...

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 14:23:07
Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."





If it costs more than $15 a bottle, it never tastes very good to me... :P

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 14:23:54
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...


And Bush will be at the convention which probably explains why even more people have decided they have "scheduling conflicts".

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:24:14
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...






:spew:

So true Bobber. So very true.

They realize that 9/11 and George Bush have jumped the shark.



Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 14:27:36
Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...






:spew:

So true Bobber. So very true.

They realize that 9/11 and George Bush have jumped the shark.



But the rethugs are still trying to scare people with either Iran or now Russia.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:28:09
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."





If it costs more than $15 a bottle, it never tastes very good to me... :P




My favorite bottle of wine is a $10 Pinot Noir.

That being said, I was at a New Year's Eve party at a very well-off friend's house. She used to be a Vice President for a beer distributor; commuted to England, etc.

Aaaanyway, she knows her wines and has an actual wine cellar. Some of the wines she put in my glass? WooooEE, they were tasty. Others? Not so much.

There were a few bottles she opened that night that were several hundred dollars each...I couldn't tell you by taste which ones they were though.



My rambly, incoherent point is...I have had some exceptional expensive wine and some crap expensive wine. I have also had some exceptional "cheap" wine and some crap cheap wine. If it's a good between a really good $100 bottle and a really good $12 bottle, I will pony up my 12 bucks and be a happy girl.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 14:28:39
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."





If it costs more than $15 a bottle, it never tastes very good to me... :P






There are good wines on both sides of $15 just depends



Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 14:29:31
Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...






:spew:

So true Bobber. So very true.

They realize that 9/11 and George Bush have jumped the shark.



I want Rudy now.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:31:36
Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."







Cause umm it will be expensive, pointless and shows your cool. See Stuff White People Like # 54, Kitchen Gadgets

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:33:51
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."





If it costs more than $15 a bottle, it never tastes very good to me... :P






Geez Bobber that is some expensive screw cap wine. I didn't know they made Thunderbird in five gallon jug.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:34:43
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

That's curious...September 11 is a Thursday this year, I wonder why the Republican convention isn't that week?



Would that be too impolitic for even them (HA!) or maybe it's just too late in the season...





Or maybe they realize that 9/11 will make people think of Bush...






:spew:

So true Bobber. So very true.

They realize that 9/11 and George Bush have jumped the shark.



But the rethugs are still trying to scare people with either Iran or now Russia.




I don't think they are trying to scare us with empty threats. I think those threats are real. . . and we've got a juvenile cowboy running the country who probably thinks nothing of taking on Russia in a schoolyard brawl.



Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 14:40:03
Quote by Mondobubba:





Cause umm it will be expensive, pointless and shows your cool. See Stuff White People Like # 54, Kitchen Gadgets




I take offence at the Kitchen Aid comments.



I'm a baker, dammit! That's an essential item!



I have a couple of frivolous gadgets....I can usually do better with a knife and cutting board, or a cast-iron fry pan.







Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 14:40:47
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Seriously, what would be the point of an electronic wine taster? Talk about elitist! If it tastes good to your human tongue, then who cares about what an electronic device "thinks."







Cause umm it will be expensive, pointless and shows your cool. See Stuff White People Like # 54, Kitchen Gadgets




Momma Mala loves her kitchen gadgets. If I can find something cool that she hasn't seen before its a winner for a Chirstmas Present



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:43:55
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:





Cause umm it will be expensive, pointless and shows your cool. See Stuff White People Like # 54, Kitchen Gadgets




I take offence at the Kitchen Aid comments.



I'm a baker, dammit! That's an essential item!



I have a couple of frivolous gadgets....I can usually do better with a knife and cutting board, or a cast-iron fry pan.









Oh 101 Being Offended. Yeah there is a Kitchen Aid in my kitchen cabinets. I wanna pimp that bad boy! Flames! Or a nekkid lady! Yeah!

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:54:10
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Johnson_front_thumb.frontpage_thumbnail.jpg




: announcer guy : The Official Shampoo of Screaming Baby Airlines.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:55:35
Yeah, because people are judgemental pricks who think smokers are less intelligent.



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:58:20
Quote by starling310:

Yeah, because people are judgemental pricks who think smokers are less intelligent.







Naw, just drug addicts. I keed Star, cause I love.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:58:51
God, that is really my all time favorite "The Cure" tune.



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 14:58:55
Yay Frangela!

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 14:59:12
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Yeah, because people are judgemental pricks who think smokers are less intelligent.







Naw, just drug addicts. I keed Star, cause I love.








Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 15:01:22
Quote by starling310:

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: announcer guy : The Official Shampoo of Screaming Baby Airlines.


:spit: :rofl:

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:02:24
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Johnson_front_thumb.frontpage_thumbnail.jpg




: announcer guy : The Official Shampoo of Screaming Baby Airlines.


:spit: :rofl:




You can thank The Onion for that one.

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 15:07:55
Peter Pan, Tinkerbell arrested



http://l.yimg.com/ds/orion/us/y_featured/1218783600/1:y_featured:73cd2dc32c3ef7d6ae1fcc86b1ceb89e/peterpan_big.jpg




ANAHEIM, Calif. - Cinderella, Snow White, Tinkerbell and other fictional fixtures of modern-day childhood were handcuffed, frisked and loaded into police vans Thursday at the culmination of a labor protest that brought a touch of reality to the Happiest Place on Earth.



The arrest of the 32 protesters, many of whom wore costumes representing famous Disney characters, came at the end of an hour-long march to Disneyland's gates from one of three Disney-owned hotels at the center of a labor dispute.



Those who were arrested sat in a circle on a busy intersection outside the park holding hands until they were placed in plastic handcuffs and led to two police vans while hundreds of hotel workers cheered and chanted.



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Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/15/2008 15:10:28
Good morning, bloggers!



Excellent post, BobR. I think that with some research and investment in research could lead to some remarkable breakthroughs.



On my end, the packing is going well. Tomorrow, I tackle the clothing.



By the way, the UNN Daily Headlines are up.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/15/2008 15:11:03
Forgot the link for the headlines.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:12:23
Lindsay Graham's voice is quite possibly the world's most annoying sound.



Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 15:14:11
It makes me wonder how the Disney employees in Florida are treated in a "right to work" state.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:15:04
I would actually consider purchasing Larry the Landslide Lizard StephGear crap

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:17:06
"A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker."



"That is Lana Turner."



:rofl:



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:17:17
Aw - the Lana Turner scene from LA Confidential is one of my faves

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:17:51
Chris doesn't know about Johnny Stomp and Lana Turner? Whaaaaaa? Jesus Crist.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:19:39
I thought everyone knew the Lana Turner story. It's like Hollywood legend.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:20:12
Quote by starling310:

"A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker."



"That is Lana Turner."



:rofl:







Well played, my favorite line from LA Confidential.



Even though the movie can't hold a candle to the awesomeness that is the novel.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:20:21
Quote by wickedpam:

Aw - the Lana Turner scene from LA Confidential is one of my faves




It's so great.

Guy Pearce is just so wonderfully persnickity.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:21:53
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Aw - the Lana Turner scene from LA Confidential is one of my faves




It's so great.

Guy Pearce is just so wonderfully persnickity.





And Spacey is always great when he's smirky



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:22:52
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

"A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker."



"That is Lana Turner."



:rofl:







Well played, my favorite line from LA Confidential.



Even though the movie can't hold a candle to the awesomeness that is the novel.




I couldn't get through the book, I tried though. Even tried to read Black Dahlia



Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:22:57
Imitation of Life is my favorite Lana Turner film...

<------ Watching Imitation of Life

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 15:23:00
*snork*



Momma prattling on about the valve-sequencing in the Pontiac Vibe!



http://www.cranleigh-fire-station.co.uk/Kitchen%20fire.jpg






Comment by Scoopster on 08/15/2008 15:27:20
Morning all... working today but I'm not at the office!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:27:21
Quote by starling310:

Imitation of Life is my favorite Lana Turner film...

<------ Watching Imitation of Life






I kinda liked Topper



Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:28:26
Lana Furniture!



::: golf swing ::: hiyooooo!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:29:09
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Aw - the Lana Turner scene from LA Confidential is one of my faves




It's so great.

Guy Pearce is just so wonderfully persnickity.







He of course was AMAZING in Priscilla Queen O' The Desert.



We shall not forget all the great performances in Confidential. James Cromwell, Spacey, & Crowe.

Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 15:30:44
Quote by starling310:

Lindsay Graham's voice is quite possibly the world's most annoying sound.



of course, then there's Ben Stein...

Comment by clintster on 08/15/2008 15:33:06
Hola, que tal? (I know, I know, where are the accents? LEt's just call it Spanglish and move on)



I am about to head to the hospital to get a CAT scan on my lungs. The doc says it's just a precaution to check me out post-pneumonia. I'm rather sure that there is nothing wrong; if there is, though, you'll be sure to be the first non-family to hear about it.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:34:26
Take care Clint :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:34:28










Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:37:01
A cold war?



: mcSame : "That's not war we can believe in my friends."

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:39:19
yeah it's the frang!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:40:22
Adam West was a frat brother of my father at Whitman College. He was a huge skirt chaser.

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:41:03
Oprah's still in the Bull Pen. Puhllleaze...she hasn't come in to close yet.

We're only in about the 6th inning.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:41:31
That surprises me as much as Julia Child worked for the OSS

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 15:43:14
We're not Worthy!



A small but amusing note from the McCain campaign, via Ben Smith: Turns out Mike Myers isn't on board with the McCain camp's use of his Wayne's World persona in its recent anti-Obama video, "Fan Club."



Writes McCain's Michael Goldfarb: "The ad features kids talking about how 'dreamy' Senator Obama is, how he brought a crowd to Taco Bell despite inclement weather, and how he is no less of an international superstar than U2 frontman Bono. Unfortunately, the final clip of Mike Myers and Dana Carvey doing their 'we're not worthy' bit from Wayne's World has spurred a celebrity backlash. Myers had his people call the campaign to demand that the video be removed from YouTube for copyright violation. Apparently, we are not, in fact, worthy."



Goldfarb uses Myers' response to play into the McCain campaign's portrayal of Obama as a celebrity. He writes that the reaction represents an example of "Obama's celebrity friends" fighting back on the candidate's behalf.





And this is not the first time the McCain campaign has had "copyright issues".





Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:43:36
BBox doing a little BeatBox.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:48:16
hey as far as I can tell larrythelandslidelizard.com is up for grabs

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 15:49:35
nevermind someone got it

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:50:32
Quote by wickedpam:

That surprises me as much as Julia Child worked for the OSS






It has been know she worked for the OSS for awhile, that is where she met Mr Child. What I didn't know was she was actually so highly placed in OSS. I thought it was much cooler that Sterling Hydan was a spy. I knew about Moe Berg

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:56:27
Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 15:57:03
: producerchris : :foil:



I just thought of Death Becomes Her!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 15:57:04
"Alien from V" Yeah Cindy is a space lizard!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 16:03:37
Oh gun show this weekend at the Shrine auditorium. I can't wait! :sarcasm:

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 16:05:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh gun show this weekend at the Shrine auditorium. I can't wait! :sarcasm:


Why can't they have their own version of upper class twit of the year?

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 16:10:42
: bernie sanders :"'Uuuuuge tax breaks. . ."

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 16:15:15
http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B610a7ae4-f607-4335-98ae-8055c4fef806%7D.gif


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 16:18:56
Woman's kayaking, it is no woman's beach volleyball.





























It isn't in prime time.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 16:19:41
Quote by starling310:

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Love it!

Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 16:21:38
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B610a7ae4-f607-4335-98ae-8055c4fef806%7D.gif






Love it!


I think Bush is jealous because he only got the bronze.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/15/2008 16:53:25
Quote by starling310:

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In listening to Thom should Gold be for Georgia invading Russia first - starting this whole thing. Or did I hear that wrong?



Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 17:38:04
Ask The Pilot on the big-tailed, butt-ugly beast!





There's no polite way of saying it -- and, I know, I've said it numerous times in this space -- the A380 is hideous. The 747 is one of the most elegant icons of industrial design, dignified in the fashion of a grand ocean liner. The A380 is big for the sake of big, a steroidal beluga with a malformed forehead. Is it not ironic, in a way, that it's the Europeans who have rendered something so aesthetically obnoxious. Every time I see it, I have to wonder, What were they thinking? This from the people who gave us the Concorde?




It's the old B-17 / B-24 argument again...as the saying goes, there are very few angles that are flattering to a Liberator, but you can't take a bad picture of a Fortress...





Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 18:17:49
Is the blog sleeping again?



As long as it's not dead.

Comment by clintster on 08/15/2008 18:43:14
Finally, the truthiness can be told:



The REAL reason Billo hates hip-hop.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 18:45:14
Now Playing: The Chillcast with Anji Bee





{mutters to self}.....oh, that's such a rut. Maybe I'll shake up the blog one day...hmm, lemme see..



Now Playing: Rammstein!



Nah.....Now Playing: Toby Keith! USA! USA! USA!



Heh.....I know! Now Playing: Some old Reagan speeches! Hell, I'm voting for McCain! (urgh, that made me sick just typing it.)











Hey, watch me juggle these pots full of hot coffee! :crash: :scald:



Oh, crap, one fell in the box of Modern Jackass vintage issues! Mondo is going to kill me! Well, at least the protective outer shield is still intact. *cough* damn, coffee and argon reeks!





nothing to see here, I felt like airing out all the magazines and mopping the floor today, hmm-hmmm-hmmm-dum-de-dah-dah....







Comment by livingonli on 08/15/2008 18:49:22
Watch out when Tri's on the scene.



And it's off to the saltmine for me.

Comment by MMB on 08/15/2008 18:56:30
As i recall some people have gun lovers in the family. But i guess usnnns redneck confederates love us some gun shows. Funny i have never been to one in my life. But hey people can choose the hobby they love. But no hypocrites please I will penalize my own self now toodles

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 19:01:02
Hey everybody! Watch me buzz the blog!!



http://media.2theadvocate.com/images/plane+crash+062107.jpg






oh.......SHIT!





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 19:01:07
Quote by TriSec:

Now Playing: The Chillcast with Anji Bee





{mutters to self}.....oh, that's such a rut. Maybe I'll shake up the blog one day...hmm, lemme see..



Now Playing: Rammstein!



Nah.....Now Playing: Toby Keith! USA! USA! USA!



Heh.....I know! Now Playing: Some old Reagan speeches! Hell, I'm voting for McCain! (urgh, that made me sick just typing it.)











Hey, watch me juggle these pots full of hot coffee! :crash: :scald:



Oh, crap, one fell in the box of Modern Jackass vintage issues! Mondo is going to kill me! Well, at least the protective outer shield is still intact. *cough* damn, coffee and argon reeks!





nothing to see here, I felt like airing out all the magazines and mopping the floor today, hmm-hmmm-hmmm-dum-de-dah-dah....









Nice Tri. I see somebody broke the no food or drink in blog lye-berry rule. :examines Modern Jackasses: Tri, no worries! These are some of the duplicate issues we have. The real treasures are here. : points to the argon hermetically sealed negative pressure vault. : You would need the key to get into that. I have it and the seal is intact.



Tri you will be doing lines later as punishment. I will not take food or drink into the lye-berry 100 times on blog blackboard. Yes we have a real blackboard in requires chalk! No erasable whiteboards here!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 19:05:05
Quote by TriSec:

Hey everybody! Watch me buzz the blog!!



http://media.2theadvocate.com/images/plane+crash+062107.jpg






oh.......SHIT!









No more coffee for you today. Well some decaff but no more regular.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 19:15:46
http://community.fxuk.com/blogs/fox_insider/dunce.gif


Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 19:27:12
Hey everyone... have a momenet and I am surfing the interwebtubes... found this interesting tidbit:





Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 19:28:18
ooops: (forgot the linkity!)Obama Plane DID declare an emergency last month. Seems as tho the FAA lied. What a shocker.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 19:33:16
Raine, ya see what happens when you go away? We start to break down ala Lord of the Flies. Just today Tri has broken the no food/bev rules and crashed a plane. A fine way for a mod to behave don't you think?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/15/2008 19:34:09
Quote by TriSec:

http://community.fxuk.com/blogs/fox_insider/dunce.gif






Now you think about what you have done today, Young Man! : stern look :

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 19:37:59
*sigh*



The Obama campaign had chartered the MD-81 from Midwest while its current campaign plane, a Boeing 757 chartered from North American Airlines, was being reconfigured. It was put into use on July 20.



The McCain campaign also debuted a new plane last month, a Boeing 737-400, chartered from Team Jet. A spokesperson, Brian Rogers, said he was unaware if the incident with the Obama plane had led to any safety evaluations of Senator McCain's campaign plane.




No, you retard! [author, not Raine! ] An MD-81 is a small twin with tail-mounted engines. The tailcone is empty and there is an emergency stair there, but it is not normally used for passenger egress. (unlike the Boeing 727...go look up "Cooper Vane" sometime.) The 737 is also a small twin, but it has wing-mounted engines, and no tailcone ladder. Whatever happened on board a McDonnell-Douglas designed plane that is radically different in design from the Boeing would have no bearing upon a/c safety; they are two different animals here.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 19:41:09
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, ya see what happens when you go away? We start to break down ala Lord of the Flies. Just today Tri has broken the no food/bev rules and crashed a plane. A fine way for a mod to behave don't you think?




: makes faces, sticks out tongue :





Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 19:49:41
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, ya see what happens when you go away? We start to break down ala Lord of the Flies. Just today Tri has broken the no food/bev rules and crashed a plane. A fine way for a mod to behave don't you think?
I am currently finger painting, wearing a pink tutu on my head and dancing to a polka with the girls dancing to the *backyardigans*





Tri I HIGHLY recommend this TV show and music for Javi. Brilliant stuff for the kids.

Comment by TriSec on 08/15/2008 19:52:45
Seems to me the breakdown of the moderating team is complete!





Comment by BobR on 08/15/2008 20:16:59
Quote by MMB:

As i recall some people have gun lovers in the family. But i guess usnnns redneck confederates love us some gun shows. Funny i have never been to one in my life. But hey people can choose the hobby they love. But no hypocrites please I will penalize my own self now toodles


You can't choose your family. My siblings include an uber-vegan-libertarian and a republican-baptist. That doesn't make me a hypocrit for criticizing those "types". :shrug:

Comment by starling310 on 08/15/2008 20:39:27
Quote by BobR:

Quote by MMB:

As i recall some people have gun lovers in the family. But i guess usnnns redneck confederates love us some gun shows. Funny i have never been to one in my life. But hey people can choose the hobby they love. But no hypocrites please I will penalize my own self now toodles


You can't choose your family. My siblings include an uber-vegan-libertarian and a republican-baptist. That doesn't make me a hypocrit for criticizing those "types". :shrug:




:hug:



Comment by Random on 08/15/2008 23:20:05
Random Is here...

He found this interesting (and cheap) game.

Comment by Raine on 08/15/2008 23:56:02
Raine steps slowly into the blog.



Hola! Que Tal? I an chilling at my Friend Larry's house... He is away... and I just ordered dinner. Life is good... and quiet.



I miss you all! Every time I get on the innertubes... I see that McCain is getting more and more nutz.

Comment by livingonli on 08/16/2008 00:05:18
I'm at work so I am missing all the fun.



Raine, did you get to see HBK while you're here?



Last time I checked the Yankees were in a rain delay.

Comment by Random on 08/16/2008 00:17:03
...McCain has gone Insane...

*scribbling notes for monday's blog.*

Comment by livingonli on 08/16/2008 00:34:33
But is McCain insane in the membrane?



Insane in the Brain!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/16/2008 00:47:45
Lotsa lightning around here. Kitties hiding. Seems par for the course. :yawn:



The weatherpeople are saying if we can wait until next Wednesday it's supposed to be the best stretch of weather of the whole summer. Uh huh. If I listened to weathermen in 1978 I'd have been stuck in Boston for 2 weeks.

Comment by clintster on 08/16/2008 01:14:50
So I'm catching up on my Steph Bits here and I just listened to RWW. I don't know what's scarier, the fact that Donnie in Virginia Beach's call made it on the clip, or the thought of Ernest Borgnine's 91-year old hairy palms.

Comment by livingonli on 08/16/2008 02:11:45
Quote by clintster:

So I'm catching up on my Steph Bits here and I just listened to RWW. I don't know what's scarier, the fact that Donnie in Virginia Beach's call made it on the clip, or the thought of Ernest Borgnine's 91-year old hairy palms.


I'm scared, Joel.

Comment by MMB on 08/16/2008 02:49:14
BobR you are right and i know one thing to be true even though i only had the pleasure of your company once i know that you my friend are no hypocrite.

Comment by MMB on 08/16/2008 02:57:35
Heres one for Starling