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Democratic Family Values
Author: BobR
Date: 09/10/2008 12:10:27
Yesterday I happened to catch a minute of FOX News asking people who they supported and why. The man who was asked that question responded that he supported McCain (surprise! 
) because McCain/Palin better represented his "values". Had I been that reporter, I would've asked what values he was talking about. Of course, the reporter did not ask. But the question stuck with me nonetheless...
How can anyone say that Democrats do not support family values more than Republicans?
Democrats have long supported causes and legislation that help families, often against Republican opposition. One of the most obvious examples is SCHIP. This program is meant to ensure that all children - regardless of the family's financial resources - can get the healthcare they need. Democrats tried to expand the program. How is ensuring that children get the healthcare they need NOT a "family value"?
Of course, Democrats would like to take it a step further and provide Universal Healthcare ("a family doctor for every family"). Republicans prefer a "market-based" approach. How is ensuring that every family gets the healthcare they need NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have fought for school lunches, after-school programs for families of working mothers, preschool programs, and college loans for kids that can't afford them. They've fought back against school vouchers which destroy the public education system we've had for so long. The Republicans support NCLB even though it has ruined the education system, replacing actual teaching with "teaching to the test", and taking school funds away from schools that need funds the most. How is ensuring that every child gets the education they need NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have had to fight tooth and nail to keep programs like Welfare and WIC going. Republicans sneer at these programs referring to "Welfare Queens", when abuse of the programs is minimal and ensures that down-on-their-luck families get the food and clothing they need. How is ensuring that every family gets at least basic food and clothing NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have been the ones that have always had to push for environmental regulation. Republicans always accuse Democrats of being Chicken Littles, crying "the sky is falling" (if it gets any more pollution in it, it just might). In case you weren't already aware, the FDA under this Administration can no longer mandate food recalls. They must ask the food manufacturer, and the manufacturer can decide to issue a recall or not. The Republicans are against ANY form of regulation on business. How is ensuring that every family is protected from unscrupulous business NOT a "family value"? How is ensuring that every family can raise their children in a world where they can breathe clean air and eat safe food NOT a "family value"?
The Democrats have always been on the side of Labor, pushing for safety regulation and a minimum wage. This helps to ensure that Dad comes home from work every night in one piece, with a paycheck that the family can live on. How is ensuring that families get a livable wage and a safe workplace NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have always supported allowing gay couples to foster and adopt, against Republican opposition. The evidence shows that these children are happy and well cared for, and do NOT grow up to be gay (at least not anymore than the statistical average). How is ensuring that all children have a chance to grow up in a family environment NOT a family value?
Finally, Democrats have pushed for REAL sex education for teenagers and free condom distribution, while Republicans push for "abstinence-only". The fact that the current Republican vice-presidential candidate has a pregnant teenage daughter should show what a failure abstinence-only sex education is. How is trying to keep teenagers free from pregnancy and sexually-transmitted diseases NOT a "family value"?
I'm sure I missed a few other family values that Democrats support (feel free to add them in the comments).
Meanwhile, the Republicans try to disassemble the safety net that was initiated by FDR, they always want to punish rather than help, they try to deny education to their kids if they feel the facts do not agree with their religious beliefs, they continue to run up budget deficits that their children will have to pay for, and they want the "market" to regulate itself, even if it means some people get hurt, starve, or worse. Are these family values?
Not in MY family.
) because McCain/Palin better represented his "values". Had I been that reporter, I would've asked what values he was talking about. Of course, the reporter did not ask. But the question stuck with me nonetheless...How can anyone say that Democrats do not support family values more than Republicans?
Democrats have long supported causes and legislation that help families, often against Republican opposition. One of the most obvious examples is SCHIP. This program is meant to ensure that all children - regardless of the family's financial resources - can get the healthcare they need. Democrats tried to expand the program. How is ensuring that children get the healthcare they need NOT a "family value"?
Of course, Democrats would like to take it a step further and provide Universal Healthcare ("a family doctor for every family"). Republicans prefer a "market-based" approach. How is ensuring that every family gets the healthcare they need NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have fought for school lunches, after-school programs for families of working mothers, preschool programs, and college loans for kids that can't afford them. They've fought back against school vouchers which destroy the public education system we've had for so long. The Republicans support NCLB even though it has ruined the education system, replacing actual teaching with "teaching to the test", and taking school funds away from schools that need funds the most. How is ensuring that every child gets the education they need NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have had to fight tooth and nail to keep programs like Welfare and WIC going. Republicans sneer at these programs referring to "Welfare Queens", when abuse of the programs is minimal and ensures that down-on-their-luck families get the food and clothing they need. How is ensuring that every family gets at least basic food and clothing NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have been the ones that have always had to push for environmental regulation. Republicans always accuse Democrats of being Chicken Littles, crying "the sky is falling" (if it gets any more pollution in it, it just might). In case you weren't already aware, the FDA under this Administration can no longer mandate food recalls. They must ask the food manufacturer, and the manufacturer can decide to issue a recall or not. The Republicans are against ANY form of regulation on business. How is ensuring that every family is protected from unscrupulous business NOT a "family value"? How is ensuring that every family can raise their children in a world where they can breathe clean air and eat safe food NOT a "family value"?
The Democrats have always been on the side of Labor, pushing for safety regulation and a minimum wage. This helps to ensure that Dad comes home from work every night in one piece, with a paycheck that the family can live on. How is ensuring that families get a livable wage and a safe workplace NOT a "family value"?
Democrats have always supported allowing gay couples to foster and adopt, against Republican opposition. The evidence shows that these children are happy and well cared for, and do NOT grow up to be gay (at least not anymore than the statistical average). How is ensuring that all children have a chance to grow up in a family environment NOT a family value?
Finally, Democrats have pushed for REAL sex education for teenagers and free condom distribution, while Republicans push for "abstinence-only". The fact that the current Republican vice-presidential candidate has a pregnant teenage daughter should show what a failure abstinence-only sex education is. How is trying to keep teenagers free from pregnancy and sexually-transmitted diseases NOT a "family value"?
I'm sure I missed a few other family values that Democrats support (feel free to add them in the comments).
Meanwhile, the Republicans try to disassemble the safety net that was initiated by FDR, they always want to punish rather than help, they try to deny education to their kids if they feel the facts do not agree with their religious beliefs, they continue to run up budget deficits that their children will have to pay for, and they want the "market" to regulate itself, even if it means some people get hurt, starve, or worse. Are these family values?
Not in MY family.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 12:15:47
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 12:15:47
morning :hug:
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 12:19:42
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 12:19:42
Well said Bobber. Morning all.
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:22:48
TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:22:48
Greetings, comrades.
<-- disgruntled TriSec
<-- disgruntled TriSec
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 12:25:16
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 12:25:16
Tri, I hope you become gruntled as the day progresses
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:27:46
TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:27:46
Not bloody likely.
Unless my manager gets hit by a bus, which I suppose is always possible.
Unless my manager gets hit by a bus, which I suppose is always possible.
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:48:57
TriSec on 09/10/2008 12:48:57
Listening to Gov. Palin on last night's KO podcast....
OK, I don't like her voice. It's just got that "note" to it that irritates me. It's sing-songy; almost like a little chirping bird.
I'm sorry; maybe that's my last prejudice. If people sound stupid to me, I guess I can't help but think that they are.
OK, I don't like her voice. It's just got that "note" to it that irritates me. It's sing-songy; almost like a little chirping bird.
I'm sorry; maybe that's my last prejudice. If people sound stupid to me, I guess I can't help but think that they are.
Comment by 
BobR on 09/10/2008 12:52:24
It's been said before, she sounds like Dana Carvey doing the Church Lady...
BobR on 09/10/2008 12:52:24
Quote by TriSec:
Listening to Gov. Palin on last night's KO podcast....
OK, I don't like her voice. It's just got that "note" to it that irritates me. It's sing-songy; almost like a little chirping bird.
I'm sorry; maybe that's my last prejudice. If people sound stupid to me, I guess I can't help but think that they are.
It's been said before, she sounds like Dana Carvey doing the Church Lady...
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/10/2008 12:58:25
m-hadley on 09/10/2008 12:58:25
Great points this morning, BobR!
Mornin' everybody, :hug:
I hope to be aorund a bit more today than yesterday - vamos a ver... :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
Mornin' everybody, :hug:
I hope to be aorund a bit more today than yesterday - vamos a ver... :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 13:12:21
TriSec on 09/10/2008 13:12:21
Great, "Grumpy Old Man" and the Church Lady.
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 13:34:43
TriSec on 09/10/2008 13:34:43
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 13:36:56
: scribbles note to self: Tri's manager, bus, hit. Boston trip?
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 13:36:56
Quote by TriSec:
Not bloody likely.
Unless my manager gets hit by a bus, which I suppose is always possible.
: scribbles note to self: Tri's manager, bus, hit. Boston trip?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 13:37:47
I've not thought about that, but yes she does! :spit:
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 13:37:47
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Listening to Gov. Palin on last night's KO podcast....
OK, I don't like her voice. It's just got that "note" to it that irritates me. It's sing-songy; almost like a little chirping bird.
I'm sorry; maybe that's my last prejudice. If people sound stupid to me, I guess I can't help but think that they are.
It's been said before, she sounds like Dana Carvey doing the Church Lady...
I've not thought about that, but yes she does! :spit:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 13:44:57
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 13:44:57
Morning all! :coffee2:
I found something quite intriguing about Obama's speech yesterday on education reform. He is in favor of merit-based pay for teachers. This seemed like a really bold, unorthodox move for a candidate of the party that traditionally gets the most support from unions, particularly the NEA. They've fought hard against pay based on performance, and I can understand why..
...but I have to ask the teachers and the unions, with all due respect and admiration for the work they do and the struggle they have in a union-hostile environment, why is this not something that we can agree on? Why shouldn't teachers be encouraged to do the best job they can to prepare children for the world, and why shouldn't the best teachers be rewarded for such an important task?! Unions can still handle other important aspects of the labor movement - baseline pay, health insurance, workplace safety, and pensions - but in this case let's put the students first, do the best we can, and then worry about being rewarded.
I found something quite intriguing about Obama's speech yesterday on education reform. He is in favor of merit-based pay for teachers. This seemed like a really bold, unorthodox move for a candidate of the party that traditionally gets the most support from unions, particularly the NEA. They've fought hard against pay based on performance, and I can understand why..
...but I have to ask the teachers and the unions, with all due respect and admiration for the work they do and the struggle they have in a union-hostile environment, why is this not something that we can agree on? Why shouldn't teachers be encouraged to do the best job they can to prepare children for the world, and why shouldn't the best teachers be rewarded for such an important task?! Unions can still handle other important aspects of the labor movement - baseline pay, health insurance, workplace safety, and pensions - but in this case let's put the students first, do the best we can, and then worry about being rewarded.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 13:46:21
I just think she sounds condescending, like a bad babysitter.
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 13:46:21
Quote by TriSec:
Listening to Gov. Palin on last night's KO podcast....
OK, I don't like her voice. It's just got that "note" to it that irritates me. It's sing-songy; almost like a little chirping bird.
I'm sorry; maybe that's my last prejudice. If people sound stupid to me, I guess I can't help but think that they are.
I just think she sounds condescending, like a bad babysitter.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/10/2008 13:48:38
So why was this ok, exactly? Not too hypocritical?
The Republicans needs to grow up and stop treating Sarah Palin like some fragile little Rapunzel. This is politics. No one said it was easy.
Raine on 09/10/2008 13:48:38
So why was this ok, exactly? Not too hypocritical?
The Republicans needs to grow up and stop treating Sarah Palin like some fragile little Rapunzel. This is politics. No one said it was easy.
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 13:53:22
Hmmm.....
BobR on 09/10/2008 13:53:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Jane Swift Gives Self Groin Pull
Quote by Raine:
So why was this ok, exactly? Not too hypocritical?
The Republicans needs to grow up and stop treating Sarah Palin like some fragile little Rapunzel. This is politics. No one said it was easy.
Hmmm.....
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 13:53:34
Raine on 09/10/2008 13:53:34
I posted this video to my facebook page!
Pass it everwhere!
Pass it everwhere!
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 13:56:04
Well duh. If you ask equal numbers of Dems and Reps, you are going to get results that look like a tie. I hope McCain has a false sense of security from this.
BobR on 09/10/2008 13:56:04
Quote by Scoopster:
Well.. now we know WHY the polls are all fucked up.
Well duh. If you ask equal numbers of Dems and Reps, you are going to get results that look like a tie. I hope McCain has a false sense of security from this.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 13:56:19
Raine on 09/10/2008 13:56:19
:clap: good point caller!!!! 
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:00:21
starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:00:21
Morning! 
Great post Bobber! So true.
:: scans blog ::
SUPER annoying.
Great post Bobber!
So true. :: scans blog ::
Quote by TriSec:
OK, I don't like her voice.
SUPER annoying.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 14:00:37
Raine on 09/10/2008 14:00:37
Now is the time for some 527 to create an ad that asks why does John McCAin want to protect Child Molesters and Why does sarah Palin want to protect Rapists.
:grumble: I am pissed this morning. It started when camille decided to take a walk on my *chest* and then scratch herself on my pillow... AFTER she walked on my face.
:grumble: I am pissed this morning. It started when camille decided to take a walk on my *chest* and then scratch herself on my pillow... AFTER she walked on my face.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:02:12
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:02:12
Good morning all.
I guess the tinkering with the registration and ignoring the shift to Democrats is the way to maintain the illusion of a competitive race. But what does worry me is that the Republicans may be trying to use tactics to purge people from the voter rolls and intimidate people to keep people especially Democrats from voting this year. I remember the problems BobR and Raine had with their voter registrations and even Randi has ranted about how she changed her registration when she moved back to Florida and she still hasn't gotten her card.
I guess the tinkering with the registration and ignoring the shift to Democrats is the way to maintain the illusion of a competitive race. But what does worry me is that the Republicans may be trying to use tactics to purge people from the voter rolls and intimidate people to keep people especially Democrats from voting this year. I remember the problems BobR and Raine had with their voter registrations and even Randi has ranted about how she changed her registration when she moved back to Florida and she still hasn't gotten her card.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:02:39
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:02:39
What did you do to piss of Camille? :p
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:03:33
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:03:33
Going after the media. Nothing like repeating the Spiro Agnew strategy.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:12:01
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:12:01
starting out a debate with "you guys" tends to piss people off, it's like poking someone in the chest hard with a finger.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:14:32
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:14:32
again those glasses - not all that
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 14:15:02
Raine on 09/10/2008 14:15:02
:waiting: Uhm.... Caller...
Whatever...
Whatever...
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:16:29
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:16:29
Having 5 kids does not qualify you to be President. I guess it only helps the advocates of forced pregnancy.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:19:10
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:19:10
You could just make an ad going after the Health Care Proposal. A $2500 tax cut so you have to pay $12,000 more in health insurance means you fall further behind instead of coming out ahead.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:20:08
Former "Acting Governor" Jane "not-so" Swift should apologize for even drawing breath. It would be nice if the WaPo knew what her REAL title was. She was NEVER Governor.
trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:20:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Jane Swift Gives Self Groin Pull
Former "Acting Governor" Jane "not-so" Swift should apologize for even drawing breath. It would be nice if the WaPo knew what her REAL title was. She was NEVER Governor.
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 14:25:58
Republicans want to deny breathable air to our children by hoarding it all themselves!
:rofl:
BobR on 09/10/2008 14:25:58
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Former "Acting Governor" Jane "not-so" Swift should apologize for even drawing breath. It would be nice if the WaPo knew what her REAL title was. She was NEVER Governor.
Republicans want to deny breathable air to our children by hoarding it all themselves!
:rofl:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:27:11
Is our children breathing?
trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:27:11
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Former "Acting Governor" Jane "not-so" Swift should apologize for even drawing breath. It would be nice if the WaPo knew what her REAL title was. She was NEVER Governor.
Republicans want to deny breathable air to our children by hoarding it all themselves!
:rofl:
Is our children breathing?
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 14:28:59
BobR on 09/10/2008 14:28:59
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:31:41
So if he does that, can they execute him on the spot? You know, treason?
trojanrabbit on 09/10/2008 14:31:41
So if he does that, can they execute him on the spot? You know, treason?
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:35:58
I guess that he figures that he can one up what Cheney, Rove, and Libby did with Valerie Plame to try and save his own ass but that won't work unless he has official approval from the Bush/Cheney crime family like what they did with Plame.
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:35:58
Quote by trojanrabbit:
So if he does that, can they execute him on the spot? You know, treason?
I guess that he figures that he can one up what Cheney, Rove, and Libby did with Valerie Plame to try and save his own ass but that won't work unless he has official approval from the Bush/Cheney crime family like what they did with Plame.
Comment by starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:36:00
starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:36:00
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 14:36:26
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 14:36:26
Comment by starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:38:07
starling310 on 09/10/2008 14:38:07
"Rednecks for Obama"
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 14:49:16
Raine on 09/10/2008 14:49:16
Black Uterous? 
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 14:54:01
BobR on 09/10/2008 14:54:01
Apparently, I met rap "star" MA$E Monday night and didn't even know it. As some of you know, I work a second job a couple nights a week delivering pizza to get myself out of my finanicial hole. I got a delivery to a warehouse district, and the "business" name was "Elyon".
It turns out the business is actually some kind of church (El Elyon), and the head of it is "Dr." Mason Betha, aka MA$E. After delivering, he followed me out to the car and handed me something and invited me to pay them a visit.
What I thought was a brochure for a business turned out to actually be a ticket for "preferred parking and seating" for a Sunday service.
Only in Atlanta...
It turns out the business is actually some kind of church (El Elyon), and the head of it is "Dr." Mason Betha, aka MA$E. After delivering, he followed me out to the car and handed me something and invited me to pay them a visit.
What I thought was a brochure for a business turned out to actually be a ticket for "preferred parking and seating" for a Sunday service.
Only in Atlanta...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:54:57
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:54:57
I have a friend from an other site that now has to work 2 jobs to bring more money into her families home. Right now they are living under the poverty line and I am amazed how they are able to make it. A lot of it, is they've learned to be extremely resourceful - something more people need to learn to be.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:56:44
livingonli on 09/10/2008 14:56:44
Speaking as someone who lost his job, was out of work for 6 months, and has spent the last 2 1/2 years working for less money than I had been I have certainly had to improvise a lot these days.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:56:51
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:56:51
Never heard of him Bob - but that is such a southern thing to do 
and I don't mean that in a bad way.
and I don't mean that in a bad way.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:58:50
Thing is Liv, and I know we all complain about lack of cash, you don't have to grow your own food, milk a goat or have sheep and sell the wool to help make ends meet.
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 14:58:50
Quote by livingonli:
Speaking as someone who lost his job, was out of work for 6 months, and has spent the last 2 1/2 years working for less money than I had been I have certainly had to improvise a lot these days.
Thing is Liv, and I know we all complain about lack of cash, you don't have to grow your own food, milk a goat or have sheep and sell the wool to help make ends meet.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 15:02:14
Raine on 09/10/2008 15:02:14
Listening to the AP news... they actually played the clip of McCain using the lipstick Comment!
I am feeling better now.
I am feeling better now.
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 15:02:46
I've heard of him, but for some reason I thought it was a soul/funk group, not a single guy (rapper).
regardless - not impressed...
BobR on 09/10/2008 15:02:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Never heard of him Bob - but that is such a southern thing to do
I've heard of him, but for some reason I thought it was a soul/funk group, not a single guy (rapper).
regardless - not impressed...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 15:08:55
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 15:08:55
more like deflection-gate
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 15:18:01
TriSec on 09/10/2008 15:18:01
Regarding Jane Swift...
As I recall, she was governor on the morning of September 11.
Unfairly or not, she was made the scapegoat by the local media, and everything she did the rest of her term was under the world's biggest microscope.
She never had a chance to be re-elected, and that's how we wound up with Argeo Paul Cellucci and then Mitt the Twit.
So now she's a GOP attack-dog? Great, McCain must have offered her a position or something.
I continue to be disgruntled.
As I recall, she was governor on the morning of September 11.
Unfairly or not, she was made the scapegoat by the local media, and everything she did the rest of her term was under the world's biggest microscope.
She never had a chance to be re-elected, and that's how we wound up with Argeo Paul Cellucci and then Mitt the Twit.
So now she's a GOP attack-dog? Great, McCain must have offered her a position or something.
I continue to be disgruntled.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 15:42:47
Raine on 09/10/2008 15:42:47
Oh hell.. My dad called to tell me a lipstick on a pig joke... The hounds of hell from deep within Raine unleashed on him...
I brought it all up... the investigation, the pregnancy, abortion (believe it or not, my father is pro choice) the national debt & how much we owe to China.. the national Oil preserve and the 10,000 unused oil leases, John McCAin voting against Women, oil... the war debt... the lying into war... her experience, John McCAin saying what he said about child predators...
Pastor gate, jews for jesus... Oh the list goes on... and YES, I yelled, I told dad, in no uncertain terms, not to f*ck with me this morning.... I told him I am sick and tired of his party making such a trivial Joke of an election that is more important than any other in our life time. I asked him if he is pleased with this man McCain treating Americans like they are stupid is OK with him? I told him that he is a fool if he thinks John McCain really cares about issues if he is more than willing to create a fake outrage over a comment that he himslef has made numerous times.
The conversation ended well... believe it or not. I do not think that dad will try to poke me with a stick for a few weeks....
I brought it all up... the investigation, the pregnancy, abortion (believe it or not, my father is pro choice) the national debt & how much we owe to China.. the national Oil preserve and the 10,000 unused oil leases, John McCAin voting against Women, oil... the war debt... the lying into war... her experience, John McCAin saying what he said about child predators...
Pastor gate, jews for jesus... Oh the list goes on... and YES, I yelled, I told dad, in no uncertain terms, not to f*ck with me this morning.... I told him I am sick and tired of his party making such a trivial Joke of an election that is more important than any other in our life time. I asked him if he is pleased with this man McCain treating Americans like they are stupid is OK with him? I told him that he is a fool if he thinks John McCain really cares about issues if he is more than willing to create a fake outrage over a comment that he himslef has made numerous times.
The conversation ended well... believe it or not. I do not think that dad will try to poke me with a stick for a few weeks....
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 15:49:18
TriSec on 09/10/2008 15:49:18
TriSec is now gruntled. I got a lead today!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 15:50:01
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 15:50:01
I thought your dad was leaning toward Dem this year
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 15:50:25
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 15:50:25
Ouch Raine.. lettin' slip the dogs of war!
Along those same lines, today's Josh Marshall post is excellent.
Along those same lines, today's Josh Marshall post is excellent.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 15:55:26
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 15:55:26
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 15:58:47
He was when Edwards was still running... (funny he NEVER called me up after the Edwards affair came out...)
but after that he decided he would not be voting at all... he STILL isn't for anyone, he says. I told him go vote for Bob Barr. He despises McCain, and I don't think he really likes Palin either. It's just easier for him to try to mock the left, and this time, I stopped him. I told him I was not in the mood and I warned him... I gave him fair warning that should he continue, I would run up one side of him and down another and show that no lipstick wearing pitbull hockey mom can hold a candle to me.
Raine on 09/10/2008 15:58:47
Quote by wickedpam:
I thought your dad was leaning toward Dem this year
He was when Edwards was still running... (funny he NEVER called me up after the Edwards affair came out...)
but after that he decided he would not be voting at all... he STILL isn't for anyone, he says. I told him go vote for Bob Barr. He despises McCain, and I don't think he really likes Palin either. It's just easier for him to try to mock the left, and this time, I stopped him. I told him I was not in the mood and I warned him... I gave him fair warning that should he continue, I would run up one side of him and down another and show that no lipstick wearing pitbull hockey mom can hold a candle to me.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 16:00:46
That was great and very true.
Raine on 09/10/2008 16:00:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Ouch Raine.. lettin' slip the dogs of war!
Along those same lines, today's Josh Marshall post is excellent.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 16:06:34
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 16:06:34
Wheee.... just signed up for this weekend's trip to Nashua and found out Sen. Whitehouse is coming with us. :clap:
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 16:06:46
livingonli on 09/10/2008 16:06:46
McCain is willing to do anything to win at all cost that's why he's using Rove's people (with Rove behind the scene since he is supposed to be "neutral" at Fox News), I just hope this all falls back on him and brings him down in a big fall come November.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 16:07:09
See I told you to would be gruntled! I still have the note to self about your manager. Would be slipping onto the tracks on the T be okay?
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 16:07:09
Quote by TriSec:
TriSec is now gruntled. I got a lead today!
See I told you to would be gruntled! I still have the note to self about your manager. Would be slipping onto the tracks on the T be okay?
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 16:08:22
Raine on 09/10/2008 16:08:22
:gobama: 
:gobama: :gobama: :gobama:
:gobama: :gobama: :gobama:
Comment by 
Random on 09/10/2008 16:08:49
Random on 09/10/2008 16:08:49
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 16:09:54
within, or outside?
BobR on 09/10/2008 16:09:54
Quote by TriSec:
TriSec is now gruntled. I got a lead today!
within, or outside?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 16:16:51
well at least you gave him warning ;)
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 16:16:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I thought your dad was leaning toward Dem this year
He was when Edwards was still running... (funny he NEVER called me up after the Edwards affair came out...)
but after that he decided he would not be voting at all... he STILL isn't for anyone, he says. I told him go vote for Bob Barr. He despises McCain, and I don't think he really likes Palin either. It's just easier for him to try to mock the left, and this time, I stopped him. I told him I was not in the mood and I warned him... I gave him fair warning that should he continue, I would run up one side of him and down another and show that no lipstick wearing pitbull hockey mom can hold a candle to me.
well at least you gave him warning ;)
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 16:17:02
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
BobR on 09/10/2008 16:17:02
Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 16:19:33
any place i can find video?
Random on 09/10/2008 16:19:33
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
any place i can find video?
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 16:20:32
Good for him. It looks like we have to fight back with both barrels but we have the truth and Grampy McSame and Milfy McMooseburger are just a bunch of phonies.
livingonli on 09/10/2008 16:20:32
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
Good for him. It looks like we have to fight back with both barrels but we have the truth and Grampy McSame and Milfy McMooseburger are just a bunch of phonies.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 16:29:37
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 16:29:37
I would love to be able to start one of those email chain things but with all facts. Not sure how to make it pithy and readable to a mass group though
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 16:30:04
I think the NYT has video. There is an excellent article that uses actual words and stuff too.
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 16:30:04
Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
any place i can find video?
I think the NYT has video. There is an excellent article that uses actual words and stuff too.
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 16:50:50
Funny, he's taking peoples advice and using that speech stopping "Enough".
In other news, Reason 845 why Obama shouldn't be elected: among his mocking of McCain in being a "change" agent, he uses termonology from a political cartoon. saying McCain will stand up to Bush, except for (list of similiar policies). Now, apparently that was a cartoon in some newspaper a week before, so of Course Obama has plagerized.
Random on 09/10/2008 16:50:50
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
any place i can find video?
I think the NYT has video. There is an excellent article that uses actual words and stuff too.
Funny, he's taking peoples advice and using that speech stopping "Enough".
In other news, Reason 845 why Obama shouldn't be elected: among his mocking of McCain in being a "change" agent, he uses termonology from a political cartoon. saying McCain will stand up to Bush, except for (list of similiar policies). Now, apparently that was a cartoon in some newspaper a week before, so of Course Obama has plagerized.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 17:39:23
livingonli on 09/10/2008 17:39:23
Rush Limbaugh strikes again from DCRTV;
I really want to kick him right in his fat ass.
Notable Quotable - 9/10 - "Democrats will tax the pig... and then say it's OK to marry the pig as a lifestyle choice." Righty radio titan Rush Limbaugh today via WMAL. In reference to Barack Obama's "lipstick on a pig" remark that has offended many Sarah Palin supporters...
I really want to kick him right in his fat ass.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 17:48:16
livingonli on 09/10/2008 17:48:16
There's an Obama ad on in the Oakland-Detroit game on FSN Detroit.
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:06:10
One at a company in Wakefield (longer commute) and two "across the aisle" in a different part of Athena. (if anyone will have me; I still think I'm blacklisted.)
TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:06:10
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
TriSec is now gruntled. I got a lead today!
within, or outside?
One at a company in Wakefield (longer commute) and two "across the aisle" in a different part of Athena. (if anyone will have me; I still think I'm blacklisted.)
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:27:58
TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:27:58
Is it wrong of me to value such pithy saying like "team before self", or to be "unselfish in service and devotion to the welfare of others"?
Your Loyal TriSec is having some issues with his own personal mission statement these days....considering how little these things seem to be valued in Corporate America.
(I work for a Bush. I knew it wouldn't last forever.)
Your Loyal TriSec is having some issues with his own personal mission statement these days....considering how little these things seem to be valued in Corporate America.
(I work for a Bush. I knew it wouldn't last forever.)
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 18:28:32
Raine on 09/10/2008 18:28:32
I want to feel like this: (SOON)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:29:38
what is the whole mission statement?
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:29:38
Quote by TriSec:
Is it wrong of me to value such pithy saying like "team before self", or to be "unselfish in service and devotion to the welfare of others"?
Your Loyal TriSec is having some issues with his own personal mission statement these days....considering how little these things seem to be valued in Corporate America.
(I work for a Bush. I knew it wouldn't last forever.)
what is the whole mission statement?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:30:32
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:30:32
THAT'S hysterical! :spit:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:34:40
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:34:40
The Biden is crackin' me up!
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 18:41:57
Raine on 09/10/2008 18:41:57
IT's Hypnotic! Biden is hysterical Churning the Butter!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:43:50
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:43:50
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:44:52
It sounds like the way my workplace is treating its people. Morale is so low and I know so many people who would bolt at the first opportunity.
livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:44:52
Quote by TriSec:
Is it wrong of me to value such pithy saying like "team before self", or to be "unselfish in service and devotion to the welfare of others"?
Your Loyal TriSec is having some issues with his own personal mission statement these days....considering how little these things seem to be valued in Corporate America.
(I work for a Bush. I knew it wouldn't last forever.)
It sounds like the way my workplace is treating its people. Morale is so low and I know so many people who would bolt at the first opportunity.
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 18:46:15
BobR on 09/10/2008 18:46:15
study confirms that oil price increases caused by speculators
:grumble:
Sometimes I hate being right...
:grumble:
Sometimes I hate being right...
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:48:55
livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:48:55
Why hasn't fact check corrected that information about Palin's association with the separatist party. Since she has spoken before them that would imply some endorsement of their views.
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:50:14
TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:50:14
Of the many oaths I have sworn, the one I take most seriously is the Order of the Arrow Obligation.
I have achieved the "Vigil" rank within this organization, which is the third-highest honor one can achieve in all of Scouting. (Eagle Scout BSA and the Silver Beaver being the two higher.)
It's the one honor that can't be consciously earned; you're voted in by your peers, so it's a more "pure" award.
In any case, I've used snippets of the Obligation as my own 'personal mission statement' of sorts.
I have achieved the "Vigil" rank within this organization, which is the third-highest honor one can achieve in all of Scouting. (Eagle Scout BSA and the Silver Beaver being the two higher.)
It's the one honor that can't be consciously earned; you're voted in by your peers, so it's a more "pure" award.
In any case, I've used snippets of the Obligation as my own 'personal mission statement' of sorts.
Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:51:44
TriSec on 09/10/2008 18:51:44
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:52:06
wickedpam on 09/10/2008 18:52:06
OOOoooohhhhhhh...
Than I guess "team before self" and the other is reasonable.
Than I guess "team before self" and the other is reasonable.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:58:38
livingonli on 09/10/2008 18:58:38
I wish they could get Laura Flanders to fill-in again,
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 18:59:04
Tangentially related, we drove on "Boy Scout Dr" while in Ft. Myers, FL last week, and it made us think of you...
BobR on 09/10/2008 18:59:04
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, this might help: Order of the Arrow....
Scouting's honour society.
Tangentially related, we drove on "Boy Scout Dr" while in Ft. Myers, FL last week, and it made us think of you...
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 19:01:57
Random has Raine Confused.
Raine on 09/10/2008 19:01:57
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
any place i can find video?
I think the NYT has video. There is an excellent article that uses actual words and stuff too.
Funny, he's taking peoples advice and using that speech stopping "Enough".
In other news, Reason 845 why Obama shouldn't be elected: among his mocking of McCain in being a "change" agent, he uses termonology from a political cartoon. saying McCain will stand up to Bush, except for (list of similiar policies). Now, apparently that was a cartoon in some newspaper a week before, so of Course Obama has plagerized.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 19:08:59
Raine on 09/10/2008 19:08:59
Govt. Proble of interior deprartment in Denver and DC... I wonder how many of those people are friends with MCCAin... or his lobbyists.
RANDI IS BACK!!!
Today I NEED randi.
Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties engaged in illicit sex with employees of energy companies they were dealing with and received numerous gifts from them, federal investigators said Wednesday.
The alleged transgressions involve 13 Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington. Their alleged improprieties include rigging contracts, working part-time as private oil consultants, and having sexual relationships with — and accepting golf and ski trips and dinners from — oil company employees, according to three reports released Wednesday by the Interior Department's inspector general.
The investigations reveal a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" by a small group of individuals "wholly lacking in acceptance of or adherence to government ethical standards," wrote Inspector General Earl E. Devaney.
The reports describe a fraternity house atmosphere inside the Denver Minerals Management Service office responsible for marketing the oil and gas that energy companies barter to the government instead of making cash royalty payments for drilling on federal lands. The government received $4.3 billion in such Royalty-in-Kind payments last year. The oil is then resold to energy companies or put in the nation's emergency stockpile.
Between 2002 and 2006, nearly a third of the 55-person staff in the Denver office received gifts and gratuities from oil and gas companies, the investigators found.
Devaney said the former head of the Denver Royalty-in-Kind office, Gregory W. Smith, used illegal drugs and had sex with subordinates. The report said Smith also steered government contracts to a consulting business that was employing him part-time.
Smith, contacted by e-mail by The Associated Press, said he had not seen the report and could not respond. He and nine other employees in the Denver office are mentioned in the reports.
The findings are the latest sign of trouble at the Minerals Management Service, which has already been accused of mismanaging the collection of fees from oil companies and writing faulty contracts for drilling on government land and offshore. The charges also come as lawmakers and both presidential candidates weigh giving oil companies more access to federal lands, which would bring in more money to the federal government.
RANDI IS BACK!!!
Today I NEED randi.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 19:13:46
Raine on 09/10/2008 19:13:46
Shano-O My friend... if you are out there... can we get the drop of Barack Saying ENOUGH!!! ???
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 19:16:52
which part? In his response, Obama uses "Enough!" which is nice, not as dramatically, but it's nice.
Or the part where i found an article claiming that Obama stole a line from a cartoon?
Random on 09/10/2008 19:16:52
Quote by Raine:Random has Raine Confused.Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
has Obama commented on the fake outrage?
oh yes.
And that's exactly what he called it.
any place i can find video?
I think the NYT has video. There is an excellent article that uses actual words and stuff too.
Funny, he's taking peoples advice and using that speech stopping "Enough".
In other news, Reason 845 why Obama shouldn't be elected: among his mocking of McCain in being a "change" agent, he uses termonology from a political cartoon. saying McCain will stand up to Bush, except for (list of similiar policies). Now, apparently that was a cartoon in some newspaper a week before, so of Course Obama has plagerized.
which part? In his response, Obama uses "Enough!" which is nice, not as dramatically, but it's nice.
Or the part where i found an article claiming that Obama stole a line from a cartoon?
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 19:33:04
Oh... you were being sarcastic?
I was a little nervous there for a minute Random. My dry humour button is on the fritz today.
This is something that concerns me more.
From Ben Smith.
Raine on 09/10/2008 19:33:04
Quote by Random:
Reason 845: Obama steals lines from Cartoons.
I was a little nervous there for a minute Random. My dry humour button is on the fritz today.
This is something that concerns me more.
Thomas Frank noticed in the Journal today that Sarah Palin used an odd source for a quote in her announcement speech attributed only to a "writer."
"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity," she said, drawing from a once-powerful, now forgotten mid-century conservative columnist named Westbrook Pegler.
It's an odd source because Pegler, who moved further right as his career went on, ended up very, very far out. Frank notes that he talked hopefully of the assassination of Franklin Roosevelt.
He was also known for what Philip Roth described as his "casual distaste for Jews," which had become so evident by the end that he was bounced from the journal of the John Birch Society in 1964 for alleged anti-semitism. According to his obituary, he'd advanced the theory that American Jews of Eastern European descent were "instinctively sympathetic to Communism, however outwardly respectable they appeared.
From Ben Smith.
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 19:38:53
Dun get Random Wrong. He plan on votin McCain Palin cause he needs 4 years of MILF dreams. ><
Random on 09/10/2008 19:38:53
Quote by Raine:Oh... you were being sarcastic?Quote by Random:
Reason 845: Obama steals lines from Cartoons.
I was a little nervous there for a minute Random. My dry humour button is on the fritz today.
This is something that concerns me more.Thomas Frank noticed in the Journal today that Sarah Palin used an odd source for a quote in her announcement speech attributed only to a "writer."
"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity," she said, drawing from a once-powerful, now forgotten mid-century conservative columnist named Westbrook Pegler.
It's an odd source because Pegler, who moved further right as his career went on, ended up very, very far out. Frank notes that he talked hopefully of the assassination of Franklin Roosevelt.
He was also known for what Philip Roth described as his "casual distaste for Jews," which had become so evident by the end that he was bounced from the journal of the John Birch Society in 1964 for alleged anti-semitism. According to his obituary, he'd advanced the theory that American Jews of Eastern European descent were "instinctively sympathetic to Communism, however outwardly respectable they appeared.
From Ben Smith.
Dun get Random Wrong. He plan on votin McCain Palin cause he needs 4 years of MILF dreams. ><
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 19:54:10
Raine on 09/10/2008 19:54:10
Comment by BobR on 09/10/2008 20:01:35
Did Obama steal from the cartoons, or did the cartoonist steal from Obama? It's not like he's never said this stuff before...
BobR on 09/10/2008 20:01:35
Quote by Random:
Reason 845: Obama steals lines from Cartoons.
Did Obama steal from the cartoons, or did the cartoonist steal from Obama? It's not like he's never said this stuff before...
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 20:03:32
Me too.
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 20:03:32
Quote by BobR:
study confirms that oil price increases caused by speculators
:grumble:
Sometimes I hate being right...
Me too.
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 20:07:03
Does it matter, it's a sentence that anyone going after McCain would easily come up with.
Random on 09/10/2008 20:07:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Reason 845: Obama steals lines from Cartoons.
Did Obama steal from the cartoons, or did the cartoonist steal from Obama? It's not like he's never said this stuff before...
Does it matter, it's a sentence that anyone going after McCain would easily come up with.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:13:15
livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:13:15
Listening to Randi talk about the people working in the McCain campaign including the guy who started the rumor about the "black baby" clearly indicates that McCain has no shame and will do anything to win. To me, that should mean the kid gloves are off. If I had the money I would start my own 527 and make my own attack ads using McCain's flip-flops and his whole record to throw him down.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:17:10
livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:17:10
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 20:26:19
Raine on 09/10/2008 20:26:19
Thank you randi. for bringing up Sarah Palin DANGEROUS views on Abortion. I said the same thing to Bobber last night.
A girl gets raped by her daddy or an uncle... and gets pregnant? if Sarah was still the mayor of Wasilla, she would have to pay for the rape kit, AND raise the baby.
A girl gets raped by her daddy or an uncle... and gets pregnant? if Sarah was still the mayor of Wasilla, she would have to pay for the rape kit, AND raise the baby.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 20:27:55
Raine on 09/10/2008 20:27:55
IF I knew how to create videos for Youtube, I would be uploading ads as fast as I could make them...
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:29:56
And if it's a taxpayer issue, would they be asking people to pay for fingerprint tests when they get robbed or a forensic exam if a loved one was murdered. Sarah Palin is one evil bitch.
livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:29:56
Quote by Raine:
Thank you randi. for bringing up Sarah Palin DANGEROUS views on Abortion. I said the same thing to Bobber last night.
A girl gets raped by her daddy or an uncle... and gets pregnant? if Sarah was still the mayor of Wasilla, she would have to pay for the rape kit, AND raise the baby.
And if it's a taxpayer issue, would they be asking people to pay for fingerprint tests when they get robbed or a forensic exam if a loved one was murdered. Sarah Palin is one evil bitch.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:35:40
livingonli on 09/10/2008 20:35:40
Raine, did you see what I put for my status on my Facebook page? Mgm put up a good comment.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 20:52:50
The Palin/McCain (or McCain/Palin) ticket -- it's all Dana Carvey:
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 20:52:50
Quote by TriSec:
Great, "Grumpy Old Man" and the Church Lady.
The Palin/McCain (or McCain/Palin) ticket -- it's all Dana Carvey:
Comment by Shane-O on 09/10/2008 20:55:38
I did it a couple days ago when Random ™ asked for it "Enough" in the { }
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 20:55:38
Quote by Raine:
Shano-O My friend... if you are out there... can we get the drop of Barack Saying ENOUGH!!! ???
I did it a couple days ago when Random ™ asked for it "Enough" in the { }
Comment by Shane-O on 09/10/2008 21:06:05
They take a LOT of time - that's what I've been up to today - Part 2 of the 4 on the Bill O Obama saga (not an ad, of course)...
Again, the gimmick is at about 1:11.
Part 3 will use the "B" section of the movement... (maybe I'll get to it tomorrow... zzz...)
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 21:06:05
Quote by Raine:
IF I knew how to create videos for Youtube, I would be uploading ads as fast as I could make them...
Again, the gimmick is at about 1:11.
Part 3 will use the "B" section of the movement... (maybe I'll get to it tomorrow... zzz...)
Comment by Random on 09/10/2008 21:09:08
Random on 09/10/2008 21:09:08
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 21:49:00
I thank you both. Today this was the thing I said time and time again to my father. HE could not have called me on a worse day. Thanks Shane and Random... 
Raine on 09/10/2008 21:49:00
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:
Shano-O My friend... if you are out there... can we get the drop of Barack Saying ENOUGH!!! ???
I did it a couple days ago when Random ™ asked for it "Enough" in the { }
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 22:12:15
Raine on 09/10/2008 22:12:15
Jeff Farius brings up a great point... Since when are women referred to as pigs? I have heard Men called pigs, but not woman.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 22:36:10
Raine on 09/10/2008 22:36:10
I ask a serious question... where was John McCain outrage here? Seems to me he thought this was HILARIOUS.
John Mcain, Take your Lip --- Stick it up your ass, you hypocryticalbastahd.
John Mcain, Take your Lip --- Stick it up your ass, you hypocryticalbastahd.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2008 22:43:31
Scoopster on 09/10/2008 22:43:31
And now, the evening funny.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 22:53:54
Raine on 09/10/2008 22:53:54
:rofl: Scoop I needed that, badly!!!
Comment by Shane-O on 09/10/2008 23:06:38
Raine-O...
:hug:
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 23:06:38
Quote by Raine:
:rofl: Scoop I needed that, badly!!!
Raine-O...
:hug:
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:14:29
livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:14:29
So the new Rachel format is the first hour is new and the second hour is a repeat of the previous night's TV show. What used to be the third hour has become the Ron Reagan show which didn't matter since neither WWRL or XM aired the third hour.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 23:23:45
Raine on 09/10/2008 23:23:45
OK...
I have to say this. I had a dream the other day, actually night.
Let me see if I can transfer the chat I had with a friend about it (this was yesterday):
Raine: I had a dream last night that MCCain had to step down from the nomination.
Friend: Did Palin take over the top spot, or did they put in someone else/
Raine: In the dream she was trying to act like she was all in charge... it was a crazy chaotic dream...
Friend: wow
Raine: people were walking around like they didn't know what to do. We had to leave the bar.... becuase it didn't feel safe.
Raine: Sarah was there trying to tell people she would handle this... and she was kinda screachy. So I don't know if she got the slot.
Raine: we went home to watch Bill Maher.
Friend: I just hope people in America do the right thing like the voters did in Pakistan
Raine: The other part of the dream was that what McCain did just shocked everyone. Damn I wish I could remember what the hell it was. Even I was shocked.
=================================
This was yesterday Morning. I have been walking around with a funny feeling all day. I wanted to share this all with you.
I have to say this. I had a dream the other day, actually night.
Let me see if I can transfer the chat I had with a friend about it (this was yesterday):
Raine: I had a dream last night that MCCain had to step down from the nomination.
Friend: Did Palin take over the top spot, or did they put in someone else/
Raine: In the dream she was trying to act like she was all in charge... it was a crazy chaotic dream...
Friend: wow
Raine: people were walking around like they didn't know what to do. We had to leave the bar.... becuase it didn't feel safe.
Raine: Sarah was there trying to tell people she would handle this... and she was kinda screachy. So I don't know if she got the slot.
Raine: we went home to watch Bill Maher.
Friend: I just hope people in America do the right thing like the voters did in Pakistan
Raine: The other part of the dream was that what McCain did just shocked everyone. Damn I wish I could remember what the hell it was. Even I was shocked.
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This was yesterday Morning. I have been walking around with a funny feeling all day. I wanted to share this all with you.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:25:57
livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:25:57
I hope it's a premonition.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:38:29
velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:38:29
Hello everyone! Miss me? My computer is back from the shop - but in no better condition.
:(
Ah well. I'll shuffle along as best I can.
:(
Ah well. I'll shuffle along as best I can.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:39:35
velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:39:35
Oh, and with my first night off.......... I'll get to see "The DOCT-AR" :D
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:40:37
livingonli on 09/10/2008 23:40:37
Hi Velveeta. Sick computers suck.
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 23:42:32
Raine on 09/10/2008 23:42:32
I dunno, but I feel a need to put it out there. if it isn't a premontion, then it is just a crazy dream... but this dream was strange to me.
I have been like a cat on a hot tin roof all day. Feeling like I am waiting for something to happen. I am sorta thinking that IF this weere a premonition... then a Friday is the day since in my dream we went home to watch Maher.
But I dunno. It was a dream. Not a hope dream, this was a simple dream I had while sleeping.
I have been like a cat on a hot tin roof all day. Feeling like I am waiting for something to happen. I am sorta thinking that IF this weere a premonition... then a Friday is the day since in my dream we went home to watch Maher.
But I dunno. It was a dream. Not a hope dream, this was a simple dream I had while sleeping.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:43:06
velveeta jones on 09/10/2008 23:43:06
Yes, they do Liv............yes they do. I should stop being so hard on my little craptop.
Hey! I hope BobR's okay. He watched FOX "news".
*shudder* :nervous:
Hey! I hope BobR's okay. He watched FOX "news".
*shudder* :nervous:
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 23:45:22
Raine on 09/10/2008 23:45:22
So ... what? no bloggie commentary on the McCain supporter calling hillary a bitch and Gramps laughing? 
Should not the left wing blogosphere be running with this?
Should not the left wing blogosphere be running with this?
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2008 23:49:14
Fox news was nothing compared to me today, and he worked from home.
goddess bless BobR. He was witness to my conversation with my father. (he also thanked me for taking it out on the back deck)
Raine on 09/10/2008 23:49:14
Quote by velveeta jones:
Yes, they do Liv............yes they do. I should stop being so hard on my little craptop.
Hey! I hope BobR's okay. He watched FOX "news".
*shudder* :nervous:
goddess bless BobR. He was witness to my conversation with my father. (he also thanked me for taking it out on the back deck)
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:00:31
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:00:31
Jesus Christ! Some asshole on Hardball said Obama went on the attack with the lipstick on a pig thing. What a fuckin' moron!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/11/2008 00:08:42
trojanrabbit on 09/11/2008 00:08:42
While searching for the Sox game on the radio (they have 2 stations they alternat games on), I caught the Savage Weiner doing psychoanalysis on Obama. Because Obama has an Oedipus Complex, he's unqualified to be President.
Of course we won't mention Georgie's relationship with his bitch-queen of a mother, will we Weiner?
Of course we won't mention Georgie's relationship with his bitch-queen of a mother, will we Weiner?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:13:27
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:13:27
: slams apple down on blog bar top: This is a pig. :slams orange down on bar top next to apple: Not the same thing! Got it? I got your sexism right here Grampy! Kettle calling pot!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:16:25
Yeah there is a guy who should be psychoanalyzing people. He is so calm, level-headed, insightful and totally rational. :sarcasm:
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:16:25
Quote by trojanrabbit:
While searching for the Sox game on the radio (they have 2 stations they alternat games on), I caught the Savage Weiner doing psychoanalysis on Obama. Because Obama has an Oedipus Complex, he's unqualified to be President.
Of course we won't mention Georgie's relationship with his bitch-queen of a mother, will we Weiner?
Yeah there is a guy who should be psychoanalyzing people. He is so calm, level-headed, insightful and totally rational. :sarcasm:
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:19:21
Saint Bobber!
:lol:
velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:19:21
Quote by Raine:Fox news was nothing compared to me today, and he worked from home.Quote by velveeta jones:
Yes, they do Liv............yes they do. I should stop being so hard on my little craptop.
Hey! I hope BobR's okay. He watched FOX "news".
*shudder* :nervous:
goddess bless BobR. He was witness to my conversation with my father. (he also thanked me for taking it out on the back deck)
Saint Bobber!
:lol:
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:33:08
velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:33:08
My silly facebook friends send me the silliest stuff. tsk, tsk.
Comment by Raine on 09/11/2008 00:33:34
Raine on 09/11/2008 00:33:34
Aricept.... Remember that word...
you heard it from me first, for no other reason then you heard it from me first.
John McCain is campaning again and I am seeing him twist his wedding band on his hand -- AGAIN. Everytime I see him do that, I say to myself... that is McCain's "Give". He does it EVERYTIME he is onstage with Sarah. He does it everytime he is allowing a lie to be told in his name.
you heard it from me first, for no other reason then you heard it from me first.
John McCain is campaning again and I am seeing him twist his wedding band on his hand -- AGAIN. Everytime I see him do that, I say to myself... that is McCain's "Give". He does it EVERYTIME he is onstage with Sarah. He does it everytime he is allowing a lie to be told in his name.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:43:48
Oh! I would SOOOOO love for him to get caught with his pants down. Literally!! He's hot for Palin, for sure. Is that sexist of me? Well, too bad, I think its the truth.
velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 00:43:48
Quote by Raine:
Aricept.... Remember that word...
you heard it from me first, for no other reason then you heard it from me first.
John McCain is campaning again and I am seeing him twist his wedding band on his hand -- AGAIN. Everytime I see him do that, I say to myself... that is McCain's "Give". He does it EVERYTIME he is onstage with Sarah. He does it everytime he is allowing a lie to be told in his name.
Oh! I would SOOOOO love for him to get caught with his pants down. Literally!! He's hot for Palin, for sure. Is that sexist of me? Well, too bad, I think its the truth.
Comment by livingonli on 09/11/2008 00:43:55
livingonli on 09/11/2008 00:43:55
That Fred Thompson is sure on the ball.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:47:32
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 00:47:32
I like me "McCain in the Membrane" : lurches like beavis and butthead. :
Comment by livingonli on 09/11/2008 00:47:35
Let's not forget that lobbyist that McCain allegedly had an affair with. Now, if we were to find out more about that.
livingonli on 09/11/2008 00:47:35
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
Aricept.... Remember that word...
you heard it from me first, for no other reason then you heard it from me first.
John McCain is campaning again and I am seeing him twist his wedding band on his hand -- AGAIN. Everytime I see him do that, I say to myself... that is McCain's "Give". He does it EVERYTIME he is onstage with Sarah. He does it everytime he is allowing a lie to be told in his name.
Oh! I would SOOOOO love for him to get caught with his pants down. Literally!! He's hot for Palin, for sure. Is that sexist of me? Well, too bad, I think its the truth.
Let's not forget that lobbyist that McCain allegedly had an affair with. Now, if we were to find out more about that.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 01:01:02
velveeta jones on 09/11/2008 01:01:02
Off to go watch Rachael in HD.
:drool:
:drool:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:01:34
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:01:34
No nerd crush is winning out on my news and politics crush. Mythbusters here I come.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:06:14
Oh the mole on her neck must look smashing in HD. : squeezy:
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:06:14
Quote by velveeta jones:
Off to go watch Rachael in HD.
:drool:
Oh the mole on her neck must look smashing in HD. : squeezy:
Comment by livingonli on 09/11/2008 01:13:51
livingonli on 09/11/2008 01:13:51
MSNBC doesn't have an HD feed yet.
Comment by TriSec on 09/11/2008 01:25:15
TriSec on 09/11/2008 01:25:15
Evening, folks.
TriSec's magic cure for whatever ails ya: :martini:
I love my doctor, but the mythbusters are doing silly things with phone books and sharks this evening.
Plus, they've got Kari. rowwwrrrrrrrr.
TriSec's magic cure for whatever ails ya: :martini:
I love my doctor, but the mythbusters are doing silly things with phone books and sharks this evening.
Plus, they've got Kari. rowwwrrrrrrrr.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:44:00
A hit a palpable hit! I want a big Hollywood boom!
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:44:00
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks.
TriSec's magic cure for whatever ails ya: :martini:
I love my doctor, but the mythbusters are doing silly things with phone books and sharks this evening.
Plus, they've got Kari. rowwwrrrrrrrr.
A hit a palpable hit! I want a big Hollywood boom!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:46:36
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:46:36
Tracked vehicles! I want to go to this museum! Mint tanks n stuff!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:54:55
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 01:54:55
Yeah BABY! Big big bada boom! 
:metal: :metal:
:metal: :metal:
Comment by livingonli on 09/11/2008 01:58:51
livingonli on 09/11/2008 01:58:51
Kent Jones is covering NYC Fashion Week.
Comment by TriSec on 09/11/2008 02:03:08
TriSec on 09/11/2008 02:03:08
And with that, I shall retire.
Next time, I want to see the phone books tied to a B-17 and a Lancaster....20,000 horse between the two of them, easy!
Next time, I want to see the phone books tied to a B-17 and a Lancaster....20,000 horse between the two of them, easy!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 02:19:47
Overkill.
Mondobubba on 09/11/2008 02:19:47
Quote by TriSec:
And with that, I shall retire.
Next time, I want to see the phone books tied to a B-17 and a Lancaster....20,000 horse between the two of them, easy!
Overkill.
Comment by Raine on 09/11/2008 03:10:41
John doesn't remember Vicky. (that was her name) Thus my request for you to remember Aricept.
I may very well be starting a terrible rumour, but I have a feeling here. John McCain is smarter than staring at Sarah Palin's ass... and yet... we werte ALL witness to it.
For the 5th day in a row, he twisted his ring. Did ANYONE see Cindy one the trail in the past 3 days? if you did, PLEASE tell me. I really want to know.
Raine out. Love ya all.
Raine on 09/11/2008 03:10:41
Quote by livingonli:Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
Aricept.... Remember that word...
you heard it from me first, for no other reason then you heard it from me first.
John McCain is campaning again and I am seeing him twist his wedding band on his hand -- AGAIN. Everytime I see him do that, I say to myself... that is McCain's "Give". He does it EVERYTIME he is onstage with Sarah. He does it everytime he is allowing a lie to be told in his name.
Oh! I would SOOOOO love for him to get caught with his pants down. Literally!! He's hot for Palin, for sure. Is that sexist of me? Well, too bad, I think its the truth.
Let's not forget that lobbyist that McCain allegedly had an affair with. Now, if we were to find out more about that.
I may very well be starting a terrible rumour, but I have a feeling here. John McCain is smarter than staring at Sarah Palin's ass... and yet... we werte ALL witness to it.
For the 5th day in a row, he twisted his ring. Did ANYONE see Cindy one the trail in the past 3 days? if you did, PLEASE tell me. I really want to know.
Raine out. Love ya all.