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And the Wall(st) Came Tumbling Down
Author: BobR
Date: 09/17/2008 12:34:48
And time respects no person--what you lift up must fall
They're waiting outside to claim my tumblin' walls
Saw my picture in the paper, read the news around my face
And now some people don't want to treat me the same
When the walls come tumblin' down
When the walls come crumblin' crumblin'
When the walls come tumblin' tumblin' down
- John Mellencamp
It wasn't the sound of trumpets, it was the sound of bells. By the time trading closed on Monday, Wall St. had lost 504 points. What was once a mighty Wall made of solid bricks like Merrill-Lynch became the rubble of an economy in deep trouble as those inside, thinking themselves safe, looked aghast at the wreckage. The Wall was made of solid bricks, but because of greed, the builders had stopped using mortar to hold it all together.
We had seen the Wall fall once before and wanted to ensure that it stood solid. The Glass-Steagall act of 1933 was created to ensure that those who worked on rebuilding the Wall used mortar to ensure the weak bricks were held in place by the strong bricks. For decades, the Wall held strong and all was well. But for some, the rewards were not enough. Some wanted to cast aside the requirements, forgetting the lessons of the past, and let the builders decide how much mortar to use.
And thus, the the demise began when the act was neutered in 1999. The companies wanted to use wire and chewing gum (credit) to hold the Wall together. Rather than stand in the way of "progress", this was allowed to happen. A kingdom that always prided itself on quality became a kingdom that allowed the Wall to become a flimsy caricature of itself so that some could reap a mighty profit.
It could not stand and it did not. There were rumblings at first as the Wall swayed and began to buckle. First, the Bear-Sterns section toppled. Next, the housing bubble that held up so much of the Wall began losing bricks at a faster and faster rate. The King stood inside the Wall and begged the people not to panic. Many people were hurt by these falling bricks and were left homeless as the bricks forced them to flee. But the King pointed to all those still in their homes and declared there really wasn't a problem.
People tried to keep working and getting by, constantly casting a wary eye at the Wall, watching it sway dangerously in the wind, waiting for the next cascade. Some people losing money as the wall crumbled thought that The Oil could make them more money, so they tried to prop up the Wall with barrels of oil. But the people rebelled and their shouts caused the Wall to crumble even more as The Oil turned out to be an equally poor substitute for the mortar.
The King tried to help out by propping up sections of the Wall that seemed to be salvagable. But this required borrowing money from neighboring kingdoms, and the King was already deep in debt. The borrowing just made the King's gold worth less. This didn't hurt the King and the rich members of the court as much as it did the common folk in the town, who often had to choose between food and wood for their fires.
The weakend Wall finally fell with a crash as once venerable bricklaying companies like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Merrill-Lynch, Lehman Brothers, and AIG found themselves out of business. The bewildered townspeople looked at the pile of broken bricks and wondered: what would protect them now and in their old age?
The Court Jester chosen by the King's supporters to be his successor railed against the bricklayers, and declared that rules must be created to ensure they used proper mortar, as the evil wizard who destroyed the regulations in 1999 declared the townspeople to be whiners, all the while pulling the strings that made the Jester dance.
There was one young man in the crowd that was not a member of the King's court who declared he could fix the wall, but it would mean the rich patrons of the king would have to help more, and the regulations that ensured a well-constructed wall would have to be reinstituted and enforced. The people rallied behind him as he declared that he would be a better king than the Jester.
The people looked at the fallen Wall, and they looked at the Jester, and they looked at the young man, and they decided....
... to be continued on Nov 5th...
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Comment by 
TriSec on 09/17/2008 12:42:06
TriSec on 09/17/2008 12:42:06
Well, good morning, my fellow fundamentals!
And how are we all today in the great fundamentalist paradise?
A prescient blog today, Bob. Got your $282? That's what it cost every man, woman, and child in the United States today to bail out AIG.
Perhaps if Los Federales, or even better, AIG's CEO went door-to-door and collected the money in person, people might begin to understand...
And how are we all today in the great fundamentalist paradise?
A prescient blog today, Bob. Got your $282? That's what it cost every man, woman, and child in the United States today to bail out AIG.
Perhaps if Los Federales, or even better, AIG's CEO went door-to-door and collected the money in person, people might begin to understand...
Comment by 
BobR on 09/17/2008 12:51:19
BobR on 09/17/2008 12:51:19
In keeping with the theme of the blog, a crash course in Economics. I would say this is a MUST READ (and an easy read), that explains why higher income taxes are actually good for the economy.
Go read it.
Now.
Go read it.
Now.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:04:19
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:04:19
:yawn: morning :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:13:09
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:13:09
"it is what it is" Gawd! I hate that saying! What a quitter saying!
Comment by 
Raine on 09/17/2008 13:18:38
Raine on 09/17/2008 13:18:38
Good Morning. Amazing entry this morning Bobber.
Off to read the crash course.
Off to read the crash course.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 13:19:35
TriSec on 09/17/2008 13:19:35
Sarah Palin cannot see Russia from her house.
Wasilla is inland; north of Anchorage. The nearest bit of Russia (Big Diomede Island) is a good 700 miles away.
Wasilla is inland; north of Anchorage. The nearest bit of Russia (Big Diomede Island) is a good 700 miles away.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:21:04
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:21:04
Morning all :yawn:
Comment by 
MNRN on 09/17/2008 13:24:29
MNRN on 09/17/2008 13:24:29
The nurse taking Theo2100 salutes the blog of this morning. Fantastic Allegory! It reads like one of my texts. 
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 13:27:05
Mornin' all.. back in the office today woopee!
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 13:27:05
Mornin' all.. back in the office today woopee!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 13:27:27
Raine on 09/17/2008 13:27:27
My ears are bleeding!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:30:25
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:30:25
Palin –- The Pig Wears Valentino - from TMZ.com
Sarah Palin's just your average hockey mom –- in silk shantung Valentino.
The Veep-seeker splurged for a $2,500 jacket from Saks designed by the fashion legend for her big RNC speech, reports the New York Post. It was at the urging of a team of stylists Palin's peeps have been trying to keep under the radar, so as not to confuse her hockey-mom, moose-hunting image.
The Gov's running mate's wife Cindy McCain recently took some flak for wearing big bling on stage.
Sarah Palin's just your average hockey mom –- in silk shantung Valentino.
The Veep-seeker splurged for a $2,500 jacket from Saks designed by the fashion legend for her big RNC speech, reports the New York Post. It was at the urging of a team of stylists Palin's peeps have been trying to keep under the radar, so as not to confuse her hockey-mom, moose-hunting image.
The Gov's running mate's wife Cindy McCain recently took some flak for wearing big bling on stage.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:35:54
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:35:54
She is very stereotypical, isn't she.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 13:42:44
TriSec on 09/17/2008 13:42:44
Well, this is curious. I am actually on the McCain Website, I'm looking for a position paper on a particular issue.
Get a load of the front page.
So......McCain needs a legal fund to ensure he's complying with Federal Law?
Get a load of the front page.
Contributions to McCain-Palin Compliance Fund ("Compliance Fund") are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income-tax purposes. *Federal law requires us to report the name, address, occupation, and employer of any contributor who gives more than $200 in an election cycle. An individual may contribute up to $2,300, a couple may contribute up to $4,600, and a federal multi-candidate PAC may contribute up to $5,000 to the Compliance Fund. Contributions to the Compliance Fund will be used solely for legal and accounting services to ensure compliance with federal law, including a portion of the cost of broadcast advertising, campaign offices, and computer/website expenses. Federal law prohibits the Compliance Fund contributions from being used for a candidate's election. Contributions from corporations, unions, government contractors, national banks, and foreign nationals without permanent residency status are prohibited.
So......McCain needs a legal fund to ensure he's complying with Federal Law?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:43:53
You Sir, are disrespectful and sexist! How dare you challenge any word that drop from La Palin's mouth.
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:43:53
Quote by TriSec:
Sarah Palin cannot see Russia from her house.
Wasilla is inland; north of Anchorage. The nearest bit of Russia (Big Diomede Island) is a good 700 miles away.
You Sir, are disrespectful and sexist! How dare you challenge any word that drop from La Palin's mouth.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/17/2008 13:44:33
velveeta jones on 09/17/2008 13:44:33
Morning all! Um........... I got nothing. I'll just go read e-z econ!
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2008 13:45:45
BobR on 09/17/2008 13:45:45
I uploaded a new song (called "Planetarium") to my ReverbNation profile.
Give it a listen... :nervous:
Give it a listen... :nervous:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:49:56
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 13:49:56
WTF! she says she doesn't like him or trust him but she's gonna endose him?????
Idiot!
Clinton Support to endorse McCain
Idiot!
Clinton Support to endorse McCain
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/17/2008 13:50:19
I think this is because he's taking the Federal money, so he has to "circumvent" the way money is spent, it can't be spent on his election directly.
velveeta jones on 09/17/2008 13:50:19
Quote by TriSec:
Well, this is curious. I am actually on the McCain Website, I'm looking for a position paper on a particular issue.
Get a load of the front page.Contributions to McCain-Palin Compliance Fund ("Compliance Fund") are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income-tax purposes. *Federal law requires us to report the name, address, occupation, and employer of any contributor who gives more than $200 in an election cycle. An individual may contribute up to $2,300, a couple may contribute up to $4,600, and a federal multi-candidate PAC may contribute up to $5,000 to the Compliance Fund. Contributions to the Compliance Fund will be used solely for legal and accounting services to ensure compliance with federal law, including a portion of the cost of broadcast advertising, campaign offices, and computer/website expenses. Federal law prohibits the Compliance Fund contributions from being used for a candidate's election. Contributions from corporations, unions, government contractors, national banks, and foreign nationals without permanent residency status are prohibited.
So......McCain needs a legal fund to ensure he's complying with Federal Law?
I think this is because he's taking the Federal money, so he has to "circumvent" the way money is spent, it can't be spent on his election directly.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 13:50:42
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 13:50:42
Excellent Post BobR :coffee:
Those margaritas kicked my butt last night. I was slightly late to work this morning :(
The last thing I remember is my doggie Tulsey licking my face and rolling over on the futon in my living room (at some point in time I must have gotten up and staggered to the bedroom, 'cause that is where I woke up this morning). Anyway, I want to the be the Under-secretary of the BIA :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Those margaritas kicked my butt last night. I was slightly late to work this morning :(
The last thing I remember is my doggie Tulsey licking my face and rolling over on the futon in my living room (at some point in time I must have gotten up and staggered to the bedroom, 'cause that is where I woke up this morning). Anyway, I want to the be the Under-secretary of the BIA :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:54:23
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:54:23
Jim's Sean Hannity veered into Woody Allen there for a minute.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:57:30
Faye, have I mentioned my late uncle was a wheel at the BIA? When AIM occupied the building, his office wasn't trashed. There are great photos of my uncle with his buddy, Russell Means in his FBI file.
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 13:57:30
Quote by m-hadley:
Excellent Post BobR :coffee:
Those margaritas kicked my butt last night. I was slightly late to work this morning :(
The last thing I remember is my doggie Tulsey licking my face and rolling over on the futon in my living room (at some point in time I must have gotten up and staggered to the bedroom, 'cause that is where I woke up this morning). Anyway, I want to the be the Under-secretary of the BIA :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Faye, have I mentioned my late uncle was a wheel at the BIA? When AIM occupied the building, his office wasn't trashed. There are great photos of my uncle with his buddy, Russell Means in his FBI file.
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:00:13
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:00:13
Morning.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 14:07:13
Nice. So he hunted wiccans and pagans?
Raine on 09/17/2008 14:07:13
Quote by wickedpam:
Palin credits electoral sucess to witchhunter
Nice. So he hunted wiccans and pagans?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:07:47
Star, I know exactly how you feel. Is there nothing that has been cheapened by the last 7 years of Bush?
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:07:47
Quote by starling310:
Morning.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Star, I know exactly how you feel. Is there nothing that has been cheapened by the last 7 years of Bush?
Comment by m-hadley on 09/17/2008 14:08:12
Mondo,
That is soooo cool, man I have my own issues with Mr. Means, but at the time of AIM's heyday he was no doubt a major player. What exactly did your uncle do? Do you have Native ancestry? Thanks for letting me know about that aspect of your family :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 14:08:12
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by m-hadley:
Excellent Post BobR :coffee:
Those margaritas kicked my butt last night. I was slightly late to work this morning :(
The last thing I remember is my doggie Tulsey licking my face and rolling over on the futon in my living room (at some point in time I must have gotten up and staggered to the bedroom, 'cause that is where I woke up this morning). Anyway, I want to the be the Under-secretary of the BIA :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Faye, have I mentioned my late uncle was a wheel at the BIA? When AIM occupied the building, his office wasn't trashed. There are great photos of my uncle with his buddy, Russell Means in his FBI file.
Mondo,
That is soooo cool, man
I have my own issues with Mr. Means, but at the time of AIM's heyday he was no doubt a major player. What exactly did your uncle do? Do you have Native ancestry? Thanks for letting me know about that aspect of your family :airhump:Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2008 14:08:17
Oh definitely. We have a flag up inside, but to put one outside might make people think I'm one of those jackoffs that think Flag = Patriotism = War, ie: if you're anti-war, you're antiAmerican.
It infuriates me. Once we've taken the government back, I might feel more comfortable flying the flag again.
BobR on 09/17/2008 14:08:17
Quote by starling310:
Morning.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Oh definitely. We have a flag up inside, but to put one outside might make people think I'm one of those jackoffs that think Flag = Patriotism = War, ie: if you're anti-war, you're antiAmerican.
It infuriates me. Once we've taken the government back, I might feel more comfortable flying the flag again.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:10:50
TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:10:50
Ah, Starling.
Years ago, I stopped flying the American Flag from my front porch. I went two summers I think, without one, before putting out the Culpepper Minuteman flag. (Revolutionary era, white flag with coiled snake and "Don't Tread on Me".)
After the Dems won in 2006, I started flying the Bennington Flag again. (the famed "76" flag.)
September 11th this year, I put back up my tattered "old glory", which is still hanging from the porch right now.
They may have hijacked it for propaganda, but it's up to us to make it mean something again.
Years ago, I stopped flying the American Flag from my front porch. I went two summers I think, without one, before putting out the Culpepper Minuteman flag. (Revolutionary era, white flag with coiled snake and "Don't Tread on Me".)
After the Dems won in 2006, I started flying the Bennington Flag again. (the famed "76" flag.)
September 11th this year, I put back up my tattered "old glory", which is still hanging from the porch right now.
They may have hijacked it for propaganda, but it's up to us to make it mean something again.
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2008 14:11:27
BobR on 09/17/2008 14:11:27
DJ bringing out the vintage Blur!
woo-hoo!
woo-hoo!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:11:33
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:11:33
:rofl:
:clap:
:clap:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:12:10
They targeted a woman in a town they moved into who had a divination clinic. Not sure what that is exactly. Sounds like it turned really ugly.
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:12:10
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Palin credits electoral sucess to witchhunter
Nice. So he hunted wiccans and pagans?
They targeted a woman in a town they moved into who had a divination clinic. Not sure what that is exactly. Sounds like it turned really ugly.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:12:43
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:12:43
wow - DJ! Wow
My ears hurt now
My ears hurt now
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:13:05
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:13:05
Thanks guys. I am glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about Old Glory.
Once Obama is in the White House, the flag will start to mean something again.
Once Obama is in the White House, the flag will start to mean something again.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:13:28
TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:13:28
There's always this one:
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:14:27
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:14:27
Jim...funny cuz it's true.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/17/2008 14:15:08
Monda & Star,
I agree wholeheartedly - I used to feel patriotic when I saw the stars and stripes and I've been known to tear up when I hear God Bless America, but those days are behind me now. Don't know if they will return - much depends on the outcome of the November election :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :gobama:
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 14:15:08
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:
Morning.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Star, I know exactly how you feel. Is there nothing that has been cheapened by the last 7 years of Bush?
Monda & Star,
I agree wholeheartedly - I used to feel patriotic when I saw the stars and stripes and I've been known to tear up when I hear God Bless America, but those days are behind me now. Don't know if they will return - much depends on the outcome of the November election :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :gobama:
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:16:17
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:16:17
They have mini-weapons. Mini-KISS will be able to store them on their MINI-TOUR BUS.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:17:39
I just felt bad that as I passed him on the highway, I rolled my eyes and thought "F*ckin' moron."
It's because it's always so empty this "United we stand" bullshite!
United my ass!
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:17:39
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:
Morning.
Great post Bobber.
This is off topic a bit, but I realized something sad yesterday; the American flag has become a joke. I was driving down the highway and I saw a Ford F-150 with about 9 full size flags flying off the back, an eagle and a flag painted on the back window and "United we stand" stickers plastered bumper to bumper.
The sad part is I didn't see this guy as Patriotic. I saw him as someone who has completely bought into the 9/11â„¢ Propaganda.
It's make me sad that Bush&Co. has destroyed everything, including the Pride I once felt looking at the Stars and Stripes.
Star, I know exactly how you feel. Is there nothing that has been cheapened by the last 7 years of Bush?
Monda & Star,
I agree wholeheartedly - I used to feel patriotic when I saw the stars and stripes and I've been known to tear up when I hear God Bless America, but those days are behind me now. Don't know if they will return - much depends on the outcome of the November election :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :gobama:
I just felt bad that as I passed him on the highway, I rolled my eyes and thought "F*ckin' moron."
It's because it's always so empty this "United we stand" bullshite!
United my ass!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:27:57
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:27:57
The "Economic Adjustment" must be the same as Condi Rice saying that Iraq is going through "Growing Pains."
F*Ckers.
F*Ckers.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:30:20
For the life of me, I really couldn't tell you what Uncle W. He knew a boatload of fairly prominent Native leader types. He actually didn't patronize them, which was the mode of the BIA at the time. So the more militant factions liked him.
I am 100% WASP. You can't find somebody much whiter than I am. :)
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:30:20
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by m-hadley:
Excellent Post BobR :coffee:
Those margaritas kicked my butt last night. I was slightly late to work this morning :(
The last thing I remember is my doggie Tulsey licking my face and rolling over on the futon in my living room (at some point in time I must have gotten up and staggered to the bedroom, 'cause that is where I woke up this morning). Anyway, I want to the be the Under-secretary of the BIA :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Faye, have I mentioned my late uncle was a wheel at the BIA? When AIM occupied the building, his office wasn't trashed. There are great photos of my uncle with his buddy, Russell Means in his FBI file.
Mondo,
That is soooo cool, man
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
For the life of me, I really couldn't tell you what Uncle W. He knew a boatload of fairly prominent Native leader types. He actually didn't patronize them, which was the mode of the BIA at the time. So the more militant factions liked him.
I am 100% WASP. You can't find somebody much whiter than I am. :)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:38:00
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:38:00
I love the crowd
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:41:15
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 14:41:15
I had to do a new search to double check on my mortagage company - wanted to be prepared just in case. I was relieved to find it seems to be handling all this okay - their stock only dipped by like $4 on Monday
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:42:24
starling310 on 09/17/2008 14:42:24
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Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:48:00
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 14:48:00
Peeps, I think I am going to take the cold I woke up with and the cats back to bed. :snurfle: :hack: weeze:
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/17/2008 14:51:24
livingonli on 09/17/2008 14:51:24
:yawn: Good morning everyone.
Thanks to these stupid hours even on the nights I am off I go to bed too late. I missed the first half of the show and will have to catch it on the podcast and today I do work 4-12.
Thanks to these stupid hours even on the nights I am off I go to bed too late. I missed the first half of the show and will have to catch it on the podcast and today I do work 4-12.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:55:56
TriSec on 09/17/2008 14:55:56
Well, bailing out AIG has had the desired effect. The Dow is off 250 points already today.
I don't think even Wall Street is buying the panacea anymore.
(Who's paying for this, Morris? - Jill at the First Avenue, Purple Rain, 1984)
I don't think even Wall Street is buying the panacea anymore.
(Who's paying for this, Morris? - Jill at the First Avenue, Purple Rain, 1984)
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 14:58:23
livingonli on 09/17/2008 14:58:23
When Governments crack
And systems fall
Cause unity is powerful
Lights go out
Walls come tumbling down
--Paul Weller and The Style Council.
And systems fall
Cause unity is powerful
Lights go out
Walls come tumbling down
--Paul Weller and The Style Council.
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:11:52
livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:11:52
You know something. Listening to those McCain and Palin phrases over the next 4 years may cause me to lose my mind.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:16:37
starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:16:37
I was good Jim!
I coulda been a contendah!
I coulda been a contendah!
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:17:31
livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:17:31
On Long Island now you have to live at home until you're 30 because you can't afford your own place. And I know a lot of people who do that.
Well I had my own place when I was 30. I just never got married or had kids. Then again I never wanted kids so that parts not an issue.
Well I had my own place when I was 30. I just never got married or had kids. Then again I never wanted kids so that parts not an issue.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:21:51
TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:21:51
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:32:00
TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:32:00
If Sarah Palin and John McCain were beating each other with baseball bats, who would win?
a ) Sarah Palin
b ) John McCain
c ) Everyone
a ) Sarah Palin
b ) John McCain
c ) Everyone
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:32:45
Aww...
starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:32:45
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, we had another choice. We had money for a down payment once....These guys got it all.
Aww...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 15:39:09
awww - what a bunch of cuties
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 15:39:09
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, we had another choice. We had money for a down payment once....These guys got it all.
awww - what a bunch of cuties
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 15:39:55
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 15:39:55
Hey! I posted that story here!
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:44:29
You could consider it a form of flattery.
livingonli on 09/17/2008 15:44:29
Quote by wickedpam:
Hey! I posted that story here!
You could consider it a form of flattery.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:52:18
TriSec on 09/17/2008 15:52:18
: leaps off bridge :
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
*SPLAT*
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
*SPLAT*
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 09/17/2008 15:52:54
TRI!
Don't show me crap like that!
It makes me think maybe I would want to be a father and a dad!
Grumpymann on 09/17/2008 15:52:54
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, we had another choice. We had money for a down payment once....These guys got it all.
TRI!
Don't show me crap like that!
It makes me think maybe I would want to be a father and a dad!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:54:50
starling310 on 09/17/2008 15:54:50
It sounds like the only things Palin reforms are the living arrangements of wild animals.
I do not like that woman.
I do not like that woman.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/17/2008 16:05:31
nah - I just figure they found that on raw story like I did ;)
wickedpam on 09/17/2008 16:05:31
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey! I posted that story here!
You could consider it a form of flattery.
nah - I just figure they found that on raw story like I did ;)
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 16:13:00
starling310 on 09/17/2008 16:13:00
So, basically this guy on with Thom believes that the Black Eye is the "covering" of a story, not the story itself?? Hmm....
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 16:14:34
10,705.01 -354.01 / -3.20%
TriSec on 09/17/2008 16:14:34
10,705.01 -354.01 / -3.20%
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 16:16:04
starling310 on 09/17/2008 16:16:04
Bring it Thom!
F*ckers.
Thom is pissed today. He does NOT sound pleased.
F*ckers.
Thom is pissed today. He does NOT sound pleased.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/17/2008 16:20:33
Someone call Bob Hope - we're on the Road to Nine Thousand!
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 16:20:33
Quote by TriSec:
10,705.01 -354.01 / -3.20%
Someone call Bob Hope - we're on the Road to Nine Thousand!
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 16:47:13
Right-wingers are into the my country right or wrong mentality. They might as well just say they support a Fascist state where such news would be suppressed by State Censorship.
livingonli on 09/17/2008 16:47:13
Quote by starling310:
So, basically this guy on with Thom believes that the Black Eye is the "covering" of a story, not the story itself?? Hmm....
Right-wingers are into the my country right or wrong mentality. They might as well just say they support a Fascist state where such news would be suppressed by State Censorship.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 17:08:03
Raine on 09/17/2008 17:08:03
Well THAT trip to the dentist took MUCH longer than I had hoped.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/17/2008 17:09:10
Will in Chicago on 09/17/2008 17:09:10
Hello, bloggers!! BobR, thanks for a great blog entry! (Sorry for the late start, everyone. Still trying to adjust to a new climate and time zone.)
Even the Associated Press is getting skeptical about John McCain: McCain has 2 faces: Washington in- and outsider.
Thom mentioned an article from the Scotsman, so here is a link to it:
How the Masters of the Universe ran amok and cost us the earth
The UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to take a look.
Even the Associated Press is getting skeptical about John McCain: McCain has 2 faces: Washington in- and outsider.
Thom mentioned an article from the Scotsman, so here is a link to it:
How the Masters of the Universe ran amok and cost us the earth
The UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to take a look.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 17:12:56
I think you would make an awesome Dad, grump.
Raine on 09/17/2008 17:12:56
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by TriSec:
Ah, we had another choice. We had money for a down payment once....These guys got it all.
TRI!
Don't show me crap like that!
It makes me think maybe I would want to be a father and a dad!
I think you would make an awesome Dad, grump.
Comment by 
Random on 09/17/2008 17:13:11
Random on 09/17/2008 17:13:11
*sits in corner reading*
Comment by Random on 09/17/2008 17:22:55
Random on 09/17/2008 17:22:55
And here, to take you back to the good ole days of 2005. When we were younger, and the things we got mad about, just don't seem so...well, important, since we've got bigger shit goin down the tubes right now.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 17:29:25
starling310 on 09/17/2008 17:29:25
Thom is depressing me. I am learning a ton today, but man...
I may not be able to listen to 3 hours. I NEVER shut off Thom. But, I am starting to break out in hives.
I may not be able to listen to 3 hours. I NEVER shut off Thom. But, I am starting to break out in hives.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/17/2008 17:42:08
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 17:42:08
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 18:04:37
Considering how it feels like 1929, we are all nervous.
livingonli on 09/17/2008 18:04:37
Quote by starling310:
Thom is depressing me. I am learning a ton today, but man...
I may not be able to listen to 3 hours. I NEVER shut off Thom. But, I am starting to break out in hives.
Considering how it feels like 1929, we are all nervous.
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 18:38:46
livingonli on 09/17/2008 18:38:46
CNN International actually had on its screen: Are we witnessing the demise of Capitalism?
Comment by m-hadley on 09/17/2008 18:39:52
HELP HER PUH-LEEZE,
Somebody has gone and kidnapped my roomie and she's spouting right-wing nonsense - somebody quick, do something, even if it's wrong, slap her upside the head, give her a beverage JUST DO SOMETHING 
Pass her a dube...Please do ANYTHING !!!
We need some serious help here :
We just need Obama - thank you very large :gobama:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 18:39:52
Quote by starling310:
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USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
HELP HER PUH-LEEZE,
Somebody has gone and kidnapped my roomie and she's spouting right-wing nonsense - somebody quick, do something, even if it's wrong, slap her upside the head, give her a beverage
JUST DO SOMETHING Pass her a dube...Please do ANYTHING !!!We need some serious help here :
We just need Obama - thank you very large :gobama:Cheers,
mfaye :D
Comment by Scoopster on 09/17/2008 18:49:33
I can't promise to bring anything, but if you're gonna be smokin' doobs I just might make a trip to Hartford tonight!
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 18:49:33
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
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GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
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GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
HELP HER PUH-LEEZE,
Somebody has gone and kidnapped my roomie and she's spouting right-wing nonsense - somebody quick, do something, even if it's wrong, slap her upside the head, give her a beverage
We need some serious help here :
Cheers,
mfaye :D
I can't promise to bring anything, but if you're gonna be smokin' doobs I just might make a trip to Hartford tonight!
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 18:50:03
TriSec on 09/17/2008 18:50:03
They say two thousand zero eight party over, oops, out of time!
So tonight we're gonna party like it's 1929!
:prince:
So tonight we're gonna party like it's 1929!
:prince:
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 18:53:21
Raine on 09/17/2008 18:53:21
McCain Campaign on Carly Fiorina: "Carly will Now Disappear" :rofl:
Top McCain-Palin official Carly Fiorina is facing criticism from some within the campaign for a day of what they call "very Biden-like" comments, after the former Hewlett-Packard CEO told two separate interviewers that neither member of the Republican ticket would be capable of running a company.
Democratic VP nominee Joe Biden is noted for his off-the-cuff gaffes.
Asked by a St. Louis radio station whether she thought Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin could run a company like Hewlett-Packard, Fiorina responded: "No, I don't.
“But that's not what she's running for. Running a corporation is a different set of things."
Asked about that remark on MSNBC, she made the same unprompted assessment of the GOP presidential nominee. "I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation."
She also said she did not believe Democrats Barack Obama or Joe Biden had the right business background either.
But with the economy center stage in the campaign, the words that gave Democrats easy fodder to attack the Republican ticket.
A top McCain official contacted by CNN said, on condition on anonymity, "No big deal, but not how you get on the surrogate all-star team. Very Biden-like."
“This campaign source said Fiorina would be discouraged from additional media interviews.
Another top campaign adviser was far less diplomatic.
"Carly will now disappear," this source said. "Senator McCain was furious." Asked to define "disappear," this source said, adding that she would be off TV for a while – but remain at the Republican National Committee and keep her role as head of the party’s joint fundraising committee with the McCain campaign.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 19:03:23
TriSec on 09/17/2008 19:03:23
Say, does anybody understand the commodities market?
How come I see this:
Unleaded Gas (NYM) October 08 ($US per gal.) 2.40
But I'm paying $3.65? How can we get that $2.40 gas?
How come I see this:
Unleaded Gas (NYM) October 08 ($US per gal.) 2.40
But I'm paying $3.65? How can we get that $2.40 gas?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 19:04:46
Like Momma said, It puts the lotion on its skin. Shane-O, please can we have that as a clip?? PleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePlease?
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 19:04:46
Quote by Raine:
McCain Campaign on Carly Fiorina: "Carly will Now Disappear" :rofl:Top McCain-Palin official Carly Fiorina is facing criticism from some within the campaign for a day of what they call "very Biden-like" comments, after the former Hewlett-Packard CEO told two separate interviewers that neither member of the Republican ticket would be capable of running a company.
Democratic VP nominee Joe Biden is noted for his off-the-cuff gaffes.
Asked by a St. Louis radio station whether she thought Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin could run a company like Hewlett-Packard, Fiorina responded: "No, I don't.
“But that's not what she's running for. Running a corporation is a different set of things."
Asked about that remark on MSNBC, she made the same unprompted assessment of the GOP presidential nominee. "I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation."
She also said she did not believe Democrats Barack Obama or Joe Biden had the right business background either.
But with the economy center stage in the campaign, the words that gave Democrats easy fodder to attack the Republican ticket.
A top McCain official contacted by CNN said, on condition on anonymity, "No big deal, but not how you get on the surrogate all-star team. Very Biden-like."
“This campaign source said Fiorina would be discouraged from additional media interviews.
Another top campaign adviser was far less diplomatic.
"Carly will now disappear," this source said. "Senator McCain was furious." Asked to define "disappear," this source said, adding that she would be off TV for a while – but remain at the Republican National Committee and keep her role as head of the party’s joint fundraising committee with the McCain campaign.
Like Momma said, It puts the lotion on its skin. Shane-O, please can we have that as a clip?? PleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePleasePlease?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 19:06:11
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 19:06:11
Quote by TriSec:
Say, does anybody understand the commodities market?
How come I see this:
Unleaded Gas (NYM) October 08 ($US per gal.) 2.40
But I'm paying $3.65? How can we get that $2.40 gas?
In October. As far as I understand the commodities exchanges, you are always buying at least a month ahead.
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 19:09:11
livingonli on 09/17/2008 19:09:11
Time to slog off to the salt mine. 
Comment by Scoopster on 09/17/2008 19:16:26
I believe that's the wholesale bulk purchase price, before shipping cots and distribution fees and possibly without additives like ethanol. To get even close to that price you'd have to buy directly from the people who run the refinery and transport it yourself.
That's also the October futures market, which by this time is accounting for the drop in price of crude oil.
Scoopster on 09/17/2008 19:16:26
Quote by TriSec:
Say, does anybody understand the commodities market?
How come I see this:
Unleaded Gas (NYM) October 08 ($US per gal.) 2.40
But I'm paying $3.65? How can we get that $2.40 gas?
I believe that's the wholesale bulk purchase price, before shipping cots and distribution fees and possibly without additives like ethanol. To get even close to that price you'd have to buy directly from the people who run the refinery and transport it yourself.
That's also the October futures market, which by this time is accounting for the drop in price of crude oil.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 19:17:47
Raine on 09/17/2008 19:17:47
Just said by Obama on the CAmpaign trail:
"Old Boy Network? In the McCain Campaign that's called a Staff meeting"
I do believe that is the best talking point, EVER.
"Old Boy Network? In the McCain Campaign that's called a Staff meeting"
I do believe that is the best talking point, EVER.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 19:26:04
wooooh...thanks roomie. that was close.
starling310 on 09/17/2008 19:26:04
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
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GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
HELP HER PUH-LEEZE,
Somebody has gone and kidnapped my roomie and she's spouting right-wing nonsense - somebody quick, do something, even if it's wrong, slap her upside the head, give her a beverage
We need some serious help here :
Cheers,
mfaye :D
wooooh...thanks roomie. that was close.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 19:26:33
That is a bumper sticker, my friend.
My Frieeeenddssss
starling310 on 09/17/2008 19:26:33
Quote by Raine:
Just said by Obama on the CAmpaign trail:
"Old Boy Network? In the McCain Campaign that's called a Staff meeting"
I do believe that is the best talking point, EVER.
That is a bumper sticker, my friend.
My Frieeeenddssss
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2008 19:27:02
I give this a and a :unsure:
BobR on 09/17/2008 19:27:02
Quote by TriSec:
They say two thousand zero eight party over, oops, out of time!
So tonight we're gonna party like it's 1929!
:prince:
I give this a
and a :unsure:
Comment by m-hadley on 09/17/2008 19:36:08
Thank Gawd, Roomie,
I thought we were gonna hafta stage an anti-right-wing Intervention (BTB, Did you see Kristen this week - I had a hard time watching that little girl shoot up in her neck - accckkkk, bleeech). Glad I never tried the hard stuff :shrug:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
But hey Scoop, if ya are ever in my neck of the woods stop on by
m-hadley on 09/17/2008 19:36:08
Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
USA! USA! USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA! USA!USA!
GWOT! GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!GWOT!
HELP HER PUH-LEEZE,
Somebody has gone and kidnapped my roomie and she's spouting right-wing nonsense - somebody quick, do something, even if it's wrong, slap her upside the head, give her a beverage
We need some serious help here :
Cheers,
mfaye :D
wooooh...thanks roomie. that was close.
Thank Gawd, Roomie,
I thought we were gonna hafta stage an anti-right-wing Intervention (BTB, Did you see Kristen this week - I had a hard time watching that little girl shoot up in her neck - accckkkk, bleeech). Glad I never tried the hard stuff :shrug:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
But hey Scoop, if ya are ever in my neck of the woods stop on by
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 19:40:56
Indeed!
Raine on 09/17/2008 19:40:56
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Just said by Obama on the CAmpaign trail:
"Old Boy Network? In the McCain Campaign that's called a Staff meeting"
I do believe that is the best talking point, EVER.
That is a bumper sticker, my friend.
My Frieeeenddssss
Indeed!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:01:19
you are asking THIS crew??? 
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:01:19
Quote by TriSec:
Say now, which way should I vote on this ballot question?
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:02:39
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:02:39
Dow seems to have closed at -450 hovereing at that point (+- a few) for the last numbers.
Comment by Random on 09/17/2008 20:03:53
Random on 09/17/2008 20:03:53
Random Comment!
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:05:19
TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:05:19
And the Dow plummets in the last hour again.
Looks like it's going to close down 450 today. That's what, 1,000 points for the week already?
Yee-HAW!!
Less Taxes! More War!
USA! USA! USA!
Looks like it's going to close down 450 today. That's what, 1,000 points for the week already?
Yee-HAW!!
Less Taxes! More War!
USA! USA! USA!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:16:12
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:16:12
I despise John McCain. HE represents EVERYTHING that is making me angry about with this economy. Him and his Bush buddies.
HE is making promises he can't keep and he does not even have a clue about what he is promising. These are not times for stupid political punditry. We are in a serious crisis here, and he is acting like these are the HAlcion days of the --80's.
HE is making promises he can't keep and he does not even have a clue about what he is promising. These are not times for stupid political punditry. We are in a serious crisis here, and he is acting like these are the HAlcion days of the --80's.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:17:03
Nonsequitor Statement!
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:17:03
Quote by Random:
Random Comment!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:17:42
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:17:42
I could use a
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:18:38
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:18:38
GUYS!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:18:46
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:18:46
and gals!
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:23:27
TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:23:27
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
:modbat:
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:24:03
TriSec on 09/17/2008 20:24:03
It's Wednesday...'tis nite in the TriSec household. Think I'm gonna need a double today, though.
nite in the TriSec household. Think I'm gonna need a double today, though.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:25:24
GUYS!
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:25:24
Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:28:40
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:28:40
In the household, every night is 
night.
household, every night is night.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:30:09
Listen STERling.... yer mYeee Gayl fer sher.... baht, I am with my guy Tri...
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:30:09
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:32:15
Oh ya rryaine, i her ya.
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:32:15
Quote by Raine:Listen STERling.... yer mYeee Gayl fer sher.... baht, I am with my guy Tri...Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:32:56
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:32:56
Well having found out today that I have Stage 2 Gum disease (pereodon-something) I think I am gonna have a raintini.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:35:09
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:35:09
:clap: Louise Slaughter!!!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:35:53
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:35:53
Did Randi just call Rachel a whiney Democrat!?!?
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:36:01
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:36:01
:modbat: I HOPE randi wasn't calling Rach a whiny Democrat. >P
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:37:35
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:37:35
For the record, I felt JUST as angry as Rach did, and I was very Happy to listen to a smart woman (like Rach) explain it.
And if Rach was upset and needed explaining, then I didn't feel so bad having it explained to me.
And if Rach was upset and needed explaining, then I didn't feel so bad having it explained to me.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:39:07
Thyat is sher whit it sounded like ryaine.
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:39:07
Quote by Raine:
:modbat: I HOPE randi wasn't calling Rach a whiny Democrat. >P
Thyat is sher whit it sounded like ryaine.
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 20:42:18
That sucks.
How do they treat it? If it was me I would just want to be really doped up.
livingonli on 09/17/2008 20:42:18
Quote by Raine:
Well having found out today that I have Stage 2 Gum disease (pereodon-something) I think I am gonna have a raintini.
That sucks.
How do they treat it? If it was me I would just want to be really doped up.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 20:43:07
Even reading this makes my head hurt the same way when I hear la Palin speak. :wacko:
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 20:43:07
Quote by starling310:Oh ya rryaine, i her ya.Quote by Raine:Listen STERling.... yer mYeee Gayl fer sher.... baht, I am with my guy Tri...Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Even reading this makes my head hurt the same way when I hear la Palin speak. :wacko:
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:43:49
toootly
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:43:49
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
:modbat: I HOPE randi wasn't calling Rach a whiny Democrat. >P
Thyat is sher whit it sounded like ryaine.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:46:07
I have been put on notice here at casa de Braine (aka LoBob) that my imitation voice is killing bob.
:rofl:
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:46:07
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Oh ya rryaine, i her ya.Quote by Raine:Listen STERling.... yer mYeee Gayl fer sher.... baht, I am with my guy Tri...Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Even reading this makes my head hurt the same way when I hear la Palin speak. :wacko:
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:49:08
I have been put on notice here at casa de Braine (aka LoBob) that my imitation voice is killing bob.
:rofl:
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:49:08
Quote by Raine:
Even reading this makes my head hurt the same way when I hear la Palin speak. :wacko:
:rofl:
Wow. My Baby Daddy and I love it! We do the voice all the time.
It usually degenerates into quoting FARGO though.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:50:07
The intitial treatmetn is going to take 2 sessions to clean out all the gums etc. (this is really gross, I am sorry ) and in between I am going to have to give myself flouride treatments, among others, at home. They are having me take xanax 1 hour BEFORE I get into the office for the appointment as a pre-seditive.
IT isn't pretty. But it is my own fault. Ok, it is also partially hereditary...but, Well... yeah.
Bottom line, I like my teeth a lot. I want to keep them. This is the first time in 10 years that I have had dental insurance.
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:50:07
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Well having found out today that I have Stage 2 Gum disease (pereodon-something) I think I am gonna have a raintini.
That sucks.
How do they treat it? If it was me I would just want to be really doped up.
IT isn't pretty. But it is my own fault. Ok, it is also partially hereditary...but, Well... yeah.
Bottom line, I like my teeth a lot. I want to keep them. This is the first time in 10 years that I have had dental insurance.
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:50:58
Donde Los Yikes.
OFF TO FLOSS!
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:50:58
Quote by Raine:The intitial treatmetn is going to take 2 sessions to clean out all the gums etc. (this is really gross, I am sorry ) and in between I am going to have to give myself flouride treatments, among others, at home. They are having me take xanax 1 hour BEFORE I get into the office for the appointment as a pre-seditive.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Well having found out today that I have Stage 2 Gum disease (pereodon-something) I think I am gonna have a raintini.
That sucks.
How do they treat it? If it was me I would just want to be really doped up.
IT isn't pretty. But it is my own fault. Ok, it is also partially hereditary...but, Well... yeah.
Bottom line, I like my teeth a lot. I want to keep them.
Donde Los Yikes.
OFF TO FLOSS!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:52:16
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:52:16
Her voice is a little Fargo meets Sinus infection, isn't it?
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:52:25
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:52:25
Seriously though. That sucks Raine!
Dayamn!
Dayamn!
Comment by starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:52:53
Kinda.
I keep saying she is "Marge Gunderson" meets Mira Sorvino.
starling310 on 09/17/2008 20:52:53
Quote by Raine:
Her voice is a little Fargo meets Sinus infection, isn't it?
Kinda.
I keep saying she is "Marge Gunderson" meets Mira Sorvino.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:54:21
YES!!!!
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:54:21
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Her voice is a little Fargo meets Sinus infection, isn't it?
Kinda.
I keep saying she is "Marge Gunderson" meets Mira Sorvino.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 20:57:14
Yeah it does. I went in there for the folloe up to the tooth, and get a cleaning. They looked at thigs and as they were talking, I was realizing that this wasn't normal. I said are we going to do the cleaning, and she said we have to get the oral surgeon to come and look at a few things, but I think not today. we are going to discuss it all with you as we figure this out.
Bob was waiting in the office wondering what was going on... He figured it would be a quick 1/2 hour thing.
IT was disappointing at the very least, but in the end, this is for the best.
Raine on 09/17/2008 20:57:14
Quote by starling310:
Seriously though. That sucks Raine!
Dayamn!
Bob was waiting in the office wondering what was going on... He figured it would be a quick 1/2 hour thing.
IT was disappointing at the very least, but in the end, this is for the best.
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 21:09:17
I will also have to agree with Tri and Bob on this one.
livingonli on 09/17/2008 21:09:17
Quote by Raine:I have been put on notice here at casa de Braine (aka LoBob) that my imitation voice is killing bob.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Oh ya rryaine, i her ya.Quote by Raine:Listen STERling.... yer mYeee Gayl fer sher.... baht, I am with my guy Tri...Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Don't make me tackle you, starling. That's really been grating on my last nerve, and if Momma goes into obsession-mode with that tomorrow, I don't think I can listen.
:modbat:
GUYS!
Even reading this makes my head hurt the same way when I hear la Palin speak. :wacko:
:rofl:
I will also have to agree with Tri and Bob on this one.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 21:23:52
Mondobubba on 09/17/2008 21:23:52
Off to the conference call w/ Joe Biden. Later!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 21:27:06
Raine on 09/17/2008 21:27:06
I posted this on the message board in response to this VERY important thread:
If we had it to spend, I would put it all in gold. It had it's biggest 1 day gain in history Today.
I don't think tomorrow is going to be better. Here is what I was able to find...
WaMu on auction block?
Goldman Sachs earning drop 70%(I am hearing rumours around the intertubes that they are looking for a partner)
Wachovia MAY merge with Morgan Stanley (Morgan Stanley is in deep doodoo)
Citibank was Lehman Bros biggest creditor -- faces a possible 138 billion dollar loss...
Thursday IS going to be rough. I am mixing a Batch of Raintini's tomorrow night, on the house.
If we had it to spend, I would put it all in gold. It had it's biggest 1 day gain in history Today.
I don't think tomorrow is going to be better. Here is what I was able to find...
WaMu on auction block?
Goldman Sachs earning drop 70%(I am hearing rumours around the intertubes that they are looking for a partner)
Wachovia MAY merge with Morgan Stanley (Morgan Stanley is in deep doodoo)
Citibank was Lehman Bros biggest creditor -- faces a possible 138 billion dollar loss...
Thursday IS going to be rough. I am mixing a Batch of Raintini's tomorrow night, on the house.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 21:28:15
We want details!!!
Raine on 09/17/2008 21:28:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Off to the conference call w/ Joe Biden. Later!
We want details!!!
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 21:39:37
I like seeing Florida Tied!
I think the McCain/Palin baby bump is over. It's over. Now is the time for people to ask where the bump went?
(off to the Penalty Box)
Raine on 09/17/2008 21:39:37
Quote by Random:
New Numbers
I like seeing Florida Tied!
I think the McCain/Palin baby bump is over. It's over. Now is the time for people to ask where the bump went?
(off to the Penalty Box)
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 22:13:51
I am very concerned that newspapers are going to be the next victim of this failing economy.
too many of them are publicly held. This is ANOTHER canary in a coal mine. How many canaries do we need?
Raine on 09/17/2008 22:13:51
Quote by livingonli:
Newark Star-Ledger may close down in January.
I am very concerned that newspapers are going to be the next victim of this failing economy.
too many of them are publicly held. This is ANOTHER canary in a coal mine. How many canaries do we need?
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2008 22:28:15
livingonli on 09/17/2008 22:28:15
Since Newspaper readership is down because people either catch news on TV or the Web and there have been financial issues. I just hope Cablevision doesn't make the same mistake with Newsday otherwise it could meet the same fate as The Wiz.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 23:27:45
Raine on 09/17/2008 23:27:45
Question to the blog:
Have you subscribed to a newspaper lately?
I do not care WHY readership is down. I know why readership is down.. and I believe that the M$M we bitch about is MORE than happy about that. MORE people are looking at M$M and not reading the NEWS. Newspapers STILL provide news. This is the origin of the 4th estate. The first ammendment. We cannot survive as a nation without our newspapers.
I care that people are not reading newspapers.
They are still VERY important.
Have you subscribed to a newspaper lately?
I do not care WHY readership is down. I know why readership is down.. and I believe that the M$M we bitch about is MORE than happy about that. MORE people are looking at M$M and not reading the NEWS. Newspapers STILL provide news. This is the origin of the 4th estate. The first ammendment. We cannot survive as a nation without our newspapers.
I care that people are not reading newspapers.
They are still VERY important.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2008 23:30:17
Raine on 09/17/2008 23:30:17
When I was in NY, I picked up the local paper, and the NYT and the NYDN every day.
Papers matter.
WE get the AJC delivered to our home. We must make sure we save our LOCAL newspapers.
How the hell else are people going to relate to national issues if they don't understand how it affects them on a local level??
Papers matter.
WE get the AJC delivered to our home. We must make sure we save our LOCAL newspapers.
How the hell else are people going to relate to national issues if they don't understand how it affects them on a local level??
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 00:45:59
Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 00:45:59
Comment by TriSec on 09/18/2008 00:50:07
TriSec on 09/18/2008 00:50:07
Oof.
I still get the Sunday Globe, but that's it. I cancelled my daily subscription maybe 5 years ago now. And I used to get the local paper (the Daily News Tribune), but that subscription was more expensive than the Globe.
I still read both papers online, though. By the time the news gets to print, it's usually 24 hours old and we've moved on.
I still get the Sunday Globe, but that's it. I cancelled my daily subscription maybe 5 years ago now. And I used to get the local paper (the Daily News Tribune), but that subscription was more expensive than the Globe.
I still read both papers online, though. By the time the news gets to print, it's usually 24 hours old and we've moved on.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 00:55:20
Well it was a conference call with Jill Biden. Twas a women for Obama thing. It was very interesting. All of women there had been for Hilary. Several talking points about issues of importance to women: Roe v Wade, extension of FMLA benefits to include 7 paid sick days, equal pay for equal work. This are if you ask me of importance to all Americans.
Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 00:55:20
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Off to the conference call w/ Joe Biden. Later!
We want details!!!
Well it was a conference call with Jill Biden. Twas a women for Obama thing. It was very interesting. All of women there had been for Hilary. Several talking points about issues of importance to women: Roe v Wade, extension of FMLA benefits to include 7 paid sick days, equal pay for equal work. This are if you ask me of importance to all Americans.
Comment by Raine on 09/18/2008 02:12:20
Raine on 09/18/2008 02:12:20
Sarah just said (on CNN tonite) that Title 9 allowed her to become VP...
NO I am not Joking.
NO I am not Joking.
Comment by Raine on 09/18/2008 02:16:24
Raine on 09/18/2008 02:16:24
Title 9 allowed her to play point guard, which allowed to her to get to where she is today., According to Sarah and John McCain....
:rage:
OK, so can someone tell me how Sarah respects Title 9??? Seriously. I want to know HOW much she cares about Title 9 when she was MORE than happy to SLASH the funding for the Alaska Special Olympics.
Tell ME... Sarah, please... Tell me.
:rage:
OK, so can someone tell me how Sarah respects Title 9??? Seriously. I want to know HOW much she cares about Title 9 when she was MORE than happy to SLASH the funding for the Alaska Special Olympics.
Tell ME... Sarah, please... Tell me.
Comment by Raine on 09/18/2008 02:25:06
Raine on 09/18/2008 02:25:06
Title 9.
Title 9 allowed for a woman dumbass ... of the same caliber of Dubya to run for federal office. Yup. Go an be proud Sarah. You shame me.
Basketball? REALY sarah? Basketball thru title 9 gives you the qualification to be VP? Are you aware of a LOT OF THINGS in between? like the equal pay act?
She annoys me to no end. This woman should be glad we never played softball.
Title 9 allowed for a woman dumbass ... of the same caliber of Dubya to run for federal office. Yup. Go an be proud Sarah. You shame me.
Basketball? REALY sarah? Basketball thru title 9 gives you the qualification to be VP? Are you aware of a LOT OF THINGS in between? like the equal pay act?
She annoys me to no end. This woman should be glad we never played softball.
Comment by Raine on 09/18/2008 02:29:16
Raine on 09/18/2008 02:29:16
BTW...Momma Rocked tonight.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 02:30:54
Why thank you for my Sarah Palin WTF moment of the day! :thud:
Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 02:30:54
Quote by Raine:
Sarah just said (on CNN tonite) that Title 9 allowed her to become VP...
NO I am not Joking.
Why thank you for my Sarah Palin WTF moment of the day! :thud:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 02:32:45
Mondobubba on 09/18/2008 02:32:45
Ah...eum...ha... Sarah Palin has the amazing ability to leave I, Mondo, speechless.
Comment by BobR on 09/18/2008 03:57:18
Canary in the coal mine?
The canaries are all dead already, and the guy with black lung is looking woozy...
BobR on 09/18/2008 03:57:18
Quote by Raine:
I am very concerned that newspapers are going to be the next victim of this failing economy.
too many of them are publicly held. This is ANOTHER canary in a coal mine. How many canaries do we need?
Canary in the coal mine?
The canaries are all dead already, and the guy with black lung is looking woozy...
Comment by livingonli on 09/18/2008 07:24:10
livingonli on 09/18/2008 07:24:10
I used this video before so I thought I would dig it up again;