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UnCounted!
Author: velveeta jones
Date: 09/21/2008 13:09:08
In the 2004 election I voted for……no one. Well, I tried to vote for John Kerry, not because I liked John Kerry so much, but more because I hated what Bush was doing to our country. But my vote didn’t count. How do I know this for certain? I still have my absentee ballot sitting in my filing cabinet!
Having just moved back home, I decided to “be safe” and use an absentee ballot since I didn’t trust the voting machines that were designed to not leave an audit trail. I was told that my signature did not match the one on file. I was told this one week before the election, and after many phones calls and mailings I was finally able to convince the Board of Elections that I was me. So they promptly mailed my ballot several days later to arrive at noon, on……. Election Day!
A few of the tactics used by people wanting to RIG THE VOTES:
Caging
Here’s how this has worked in the past, and in fact this example was used in Jacksonville Florida in the 2004 election targeting predominately black servicemen. The RNC mailed these voters’ letters in envelopes marked, 'Do not forward', to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as 'undeliverable.' The RNC in Florida could then dispute these voters’ absentee votes.
Or, they might target a large Democratic community and send letters that appear to be from the Board of Elections telling them that their polling place has changed, or they are to vote on Wednesday. Both tactics have been documented to keep Democrats from going to the poll. Keep in mind that at any time the Democrats could decide to do this, if they’re not already, and it would be Republicans that are targeted.
Another caging method is simply to make it difficult to nearly impossible to vote. Broken machines (often with poll workers who don’t understand how they work), long lines, towing cars, spreading rumors and much more.
Here is a small taste of what happened in Ohio in 2004.
Partisan redistricting aka Gerrymandering
Redrawing the voter district lines making dividing groups of people that may be more likely to vote one way or another, in this way boundaries are manipulated for electoral advantage.
This tactic started with Tom Delay in TX and continues to work in many states where redistricting is allowed. Pay careful attention to your local politicians.
Outright THEFT
One word Diebold - actually now called Premier. Why was anyone be so naïve as to think that a machine that wouldn’t leave a paper trail could actually be trustworthy? Especially a company that contributes to one party, promises that same party they will deliver a win, and then said party does win!
Athan Gibbs had a machine that would count votes leaving a paper audit. But Athan had a (some say) suspiciously timed accident just as his machines were getting noticed.
Can you imagine what kind of temper tantrum our "pResident" would have if this stuff happened in another country? Venezuela or Russia or Iraq? Our House and Senate would be up in arms, the Republicans screaming the loudest. So how come we don't hear John Boehner screaming about this?
What can you do to stop our votes from being stolen…..again?
Having just moved back home, I decided to “be safe” and use an absentee ballot since I didn’t trust the voting machines that were designed to not leave an audit trail. I was told that my signature did not match the one on file. I was told this one week before the election, and after many phones calls and mailings I was finally able to convince the Board of Elections that I was me. So they promptly mailed my ballot several days later to arrive at noon, on……. Election Day!
A few of the tactics used by people wanting to RIG THE VOTES:
Caging
Vote caging is a voter suppression tactic. The term is derived from a direct mail term. In the direct mail industry, when a third party runs a direct mailing campaign on behalf of a client organization, one of the activities undertaken is to compile all of the responses, handle contributions and to deposit received funds into the client's account, and also update the database of names and addresses that were mailed to with the responses or corrected addresses obtained. Since some of the activities were controlled carefully (donations and deposits) and conducted in a manner similar to the activities within a "teller's cage," the process is called "caging" and the end result of the data entry updates and address corrections is called a "caging list." This led to the term "voter caging" for voter registration analysis and challenges conducted via mass mailings.
Here’s how this has worked in the past, and in fact this example was used in Jacksonville Florida in the 2004 election targeting predominately black servicemen. The RNC mailed these voters’ letters in envelopes marked, 'Do not forward', to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as 'undeliverable.' The RNC in Florida could then dispute these voters’ absentee votes.
Or, they might target a large Democratic community and send letters that appear to be from the Board of Elections telling them that their polling place has changed, or they are to vote on Wednesday. Both tactics have been documented to keep Democrats from going to the poll. Keep in mind that at any time the Democrats could decide to do this, if they’re not already, and it would be Republicans that are targeted.
Another caging method is simply to make it difficult to nearly impossible to vote. Broken machines (often with poll workers who don’t understand how they work), long lines, towing cars, spreading rumors and much more.
Here is a small taste of what happened in Ohio in 2004.
Partisan redistricting aka Gerrymandering
Redrawing the voter district lines making dividing groups of people that may be more likely to vote one way or another, in this way boundaries are manipulated for electoral advantage.
This tactic started with Tom Delay in TX and continues to work in many states where redistricting is allowed. Pay careful attention to your local politicians.
The two aims of gerrymandering are to maximize the effect of supporters’ votes and to minimize the effect of opponents' votes. One strategy, packing, is to concentrate as many voters of one type into a single electoral district to reduce their influence in other districts. A second strategy, cracking, involves spreading out voters of a particular type among many districts in order to deny them a sufficiently large voting block in any particular district. The strategies are typically combined, creating a few "forfeit" seats for packed voters of one type in order to secure even greater representation for voters of another type.
Outright THEFT
One word Diebold - actually now called Premier. Why was anyone be so naïve as to think that a machine that wouldn’t leave a paper trail could actually be trustworthy? Especially a company that contributes to one party, promises that same party they will deliver a win, and then said party does win!
Athan Gibbs had a machine that would count votes leaving a paper audit. But Athan had a (some say) suspiciously timed accident just as his machines were getting noticed.
Can you imagine what kind of temper tantrum our "pResident" would have if this stuff happened in another country? Venezuela or Russia or Iraq? Our House and Senate would be up in arms, the Republicans screaming the loudest. So how come we don't hear John Boehner screaming about this?
What can you do to stop our votes from being stolen…..again?
- Volunteer to be a poll watcher.
- Demand from your state that there is a verifiable paper trail.
- Be aware of ploys to change the boundaries of voter districts.
- Watch this movie on DVD or the Starz network to learn more:
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Comment by AuntAzalea on 09/21/2008 13:35:57
Another cool blog VJ. This election is so crucial and I am sure having votes count will still be a battle but I am hoping that the millions of newly registered voters will not put up with the crap sure to come.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 13:56:07
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 13:56:07
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/21/2008 15:12:43
livingonli on 09/21/2008 15:12:43
I caught a little of it on one of the Starz! channels the other day when I was flipping channels but I still have to see the whole thing.
The one thing that does worry me the most is that the GOP is trying to pull the elections shenanigans again in this election. They know this year that they can't win by fair means so they have to suppress voter turnout if they are going to survive. That's just exactly how one-party dictatorships function.
The one thing that does worry me the most is that the GOP is trying to pull the elections shenanigans again in this election. They know this year that they can't win by fair means so they have to suppress voter turnout if they are going to survive. That's just exactly how one-party dictatorships function.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/21/2008 16:15:55
Raine on 09/21/2008 16:15:55
Good morning...Afternoon.
May I say I love reading the Sunday paper with a fine cup (or 4) of coffee on the back deck?
Great Blog VJ. I am still mulling the idea of becomign a poll worker for the county. Not that it matters, but here they pay you to volunteer.
Interesting, huh?
May I say I love reading the Sunday paper with a fine cup (or 4) of coffee on the back deck?
Great Blog VJ. I am still mulling the idea of becomign a poll worker for the county. Not that it matters, but here they pay you to volunteer.
Interesting, huh?
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 16:28:47
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 16:28:47
Where I live poll workers get $9.00/hour. Not bad for a few weeks work. (We have early voting).
Comment by 
BobR on 09/21/2008 16:53:50
BobR on 09/21/2008 16:53:50
Awesome blog Velveeta! :clap:
Everyone: Please note the link on the right-hand side to "Steal Back Your Vote".
Everyone: Please note the link on the right-hand side to "Steal Back Your Vote".
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:13:19
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:13:19
First homes, now cars. Yeah, that Obama sure is an elitist! 
When you have seven homes, that's a lot of garages to fill. After the fuss over the number of residences owned by the two presidential nominees, NEWSWEEK looked into the candidates' cars. And based on public vehicle-registration records, here's the score. John and Cindy McCain: 13. Barack and Michelle Obama: one.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:21:51
Thanks Bobber! I was inspired by the movie as well as your alerting me to the "Steal back your Vote".
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:21:51
Quote by BobR:
Awesome blog Velveeta! :clap:
Everyone: Please note the link on the right-hand side to "Steal Back Your Vote".
Thanks Bobber! I was inspired by the movie as well as your alerting me to the "Steal back your Vote".
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/21/2008 17:33:15
m-hadley on 09/21/2008 17:33:15
Heya Velveeta,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this excellent post. If I may, I'd like to point readers to another compilation of ways that your vote will be stolen this November Seven Ways Your Vote Might Not Count This November, By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet, Posted on August 22, 2008, Printed on September 15, 2008. I can't believe after the debacle that was 2000 and a repeat in 2004 that we are facing another potentially stolen election in 2008 - Oh, who am I kidding? With the GOP in charge, I believe just about anything - including a trillion dollar bail-out of the financial industry :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this excellent post. If I may, I'd like to point readers to another compilation of ways that your vote will be stolen this November Seven Ways Your Vote Might Not Count This November, By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet, Posted on August 22, 2008, Printed on September 15, 2008. I can't believe after the debacle that was 2000 and a repeat in 2004 that we are facing another potentially stolen election in 2008 - Oh, who am I kidding? With the GOP in charge, I believe just about anything - including a trillion dollar bail-out of the financial industry :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 17:35:50
livingonli on 09/21/2008 17:35:50
The Bengals are up 3-0. 
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/21/2008 17:43:41
TriSec on 09/21/2008 17:43:41
Oh, I completely forgot the Failtriots were playing Miami at the Razor today....
: scurries off to check score :
: scurries off to check score :
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 17:46:24
Raine on 09/21/2008 17:46:24
Falcons up 14 -O!!!
MAtt Ryan with an amazing pass!
MAtt Ryan with an amazing pass!
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 17:47:45
Raine on 09/21/2008 17:47:45
Giants up 7-3!!! 
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:57:31
velveeta jones on 09/21/2008 17:57:31
Um, baseball. It ain't over 'til it's over!
*ahem*
*ahem*
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 17:58:40
livingonli on 09/21/2008 17:58:40
Raine, are you someplace with the ticket?
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:16:59
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:16:59
Giants have tied it up... I have found yahoo sports crack... :D
Currently, 17-0 Falcons.
Currently, 17-0 Falcons.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:18:37
BAsaball? I have heard of this game... 
Seriously... I am hoping the Braves have a little Met Arse served up on a plate today.
Got the score anyone?
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:18:37
Quote by velveeta jones:
Um, baseball. It ain't over 'til it's over!
*ahem*
Seriously... I am hoping the Braves have a little Met Arse served up on a plate today.
Got the score anyone?
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:20:38
Today we are staying home. Last week we walked up to Taco Mac that has the games.
Being that the Falcons are playing the same time as the Giants... I preferred not to put myself in a dangerous position.
Actually there were a lot of Giant fans there last week. IT was like a NY convention!
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:20:38
Quote by livingonli:
Raine, are you someplace with the ticket?
Today we are staying home. Last week we walked up to Taco Mac that has the games.
Being that the Falcons are playing the same time as the Giants... I preferred not to put myself in a dangerous position.
Actually there were a lot of Giant fans there last week. IT was like a NY convention!
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:20:59
Mets are up 4-1 in the 2nd inning. Game is on WPIX -11 today.
livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:20:59
Quote by Raine:BAsaball? I have heard of this game...Quote by velveeta jones:
Um, baseball. It ain't over 'til it's over!
*ahem*
Seriously... I am hoping the Braves have a little Met Arse served up on a plate today.
Got the score anyone?
Mets are up 4-1 in the 2nd inning. Game is on WPIX -11 today.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:23:18
I wonder how many New Yorkers now live in Atlanta? Hey, with the cost of living getting out of hand here that area probably becomes more attractive.
Damn, Bengals scored another field goal, but I see that the fins are stomping the Pats.
livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:23:18
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Raine, are you someplace with the ticket?
Today we are staying home. Last week we walked up to Taco Mac that has the games.
Being that the Falcons are playing the same time as the Giants... I preferred not to put myself in a dangerous position.
Actually there were a lot of Giant fans there last week. IT was like a NY convention!
I wonder how many New Yorkers now live in Atlanta? Hey, with the cost of living getting out of hand here that area probably becomes more attractive.
Damn, Bengals scored another field goal, but I see that the fins are stomping the Pats.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:25:51
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:25:51
Looking at the Stats for the Giants... both teams seem to be playing pretty evenly. The stats are nearly the same.
That looks a real nailbighter so far. Bengals up 13-10.
That looks a real nailbighter so far. Bengals up 13-10.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:26:21
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:26:21
Comeing up on the Halftime report: BobR is starting to brew another batch of beer.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 18:27:28
Raine on 09/21/2008 18:27:28
Eep? They are up that much so early in the game?
I will scope it out.
I will scope it out.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:40:31
:cough: Braves suck! :cough:
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:40:31
Quote by velveeta jones:
Um, baseball. It ain't over 'til it's over!
*ahem*
:cough: Braves suck! :cough:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:43:55
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:43:55
Jags vs Colts doesn't start until 4. :monotone: It will be the mother of all games. Jackals will feed on the entrails of Payton Manning. The Jags (0-2) will crush the Colts neath their cleats.
:sarcasm:
:sarcasm:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:45:50
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 18:45:50
Tri, the Twins are beating the the Rays like a rented mule in the fourth inning. Nine batters so far.
Twins: 4
Rays: 1
Twins: 4
Rays: 1
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:50:04
livingonli on 09/21/2008 18:50:04
Right now on my HD set I can flip between the Giant game, the Mets game, the Toronto-Red Sox game on TBS and the Cubs on WGN all in HD. I will be at work and will miss the late football game and even the farewell to Yankee Stadium.
Raine, are you going to watch the last game at Yankee Stadium tonight on ESPN?
Raine, are you going to watch the last game at Yankee Stadium tonight on ESPN?
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 19:11:33
:cry: prolly.
Raine on 09/21/2008 19:11:33
Quote by livingonli:
Right now on my HD set I can flip between the Giant game, the Mets game, the Toronto-Red Sox game on TBS and the Cubs on WGN all in HD. I will be at work and will miss the late football game and even the farewell to Yankee Stadium.
Raine, are you going to watch the last game at Yankee Stadium tonight on ESPN?
:cry: prolly.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 19:12:05
:rofl:
Raine on 09/21/2008 19:12:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Jags vs Colts doesn't start until 4. :monotone: It will be the mother of all games. Jackals will feed on the entrails of Payton Manning. The Jags (0-2) will crush the Colts neath their cleats.
:sarcasm:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 19:16:23
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 19:16:23
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:19:42
It's not the same when all the old monuments go away?
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:19:42
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Right now on my HD set I can flip between the Giant game, the Mets game, the Toronto-Red Sox game on TBS and the Cubs on WGN all in HD. I will be at work and will miss the late football game and even the farewell to Yankee Stadium.
Raine, are you going to watch the last game at Yankee Stadium tonight on ESPN?
:cry: prolly.
It's not the same when all the old monuments go away?
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:21:05
You know that crt's not getting that game in her area?
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:21:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Jags vs Colts doesn't start until 4. :monotone: It will be the mother of all games. Jackals will feed on the entrails of Payton Manning. The Jags (0-2) will crush the Colts neath their cleats.
:sarcasm:
You know that crt's not getting that game in her area?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 19:26:38
I figured as much.
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 19:26:38
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Jags vs Colts doesn't start until 4. :monotone: It will be the mother of all games. Jackals will feed on the entrails of Payton Manning. The Jags (0-2) will crush the Colts neath their cleats.
:sarcasm:
You know that crt's not getting that game in her area?
I figured as much.
Comment by TriSec on 09/21/2008 19:27:16
Ummm?
That's a good thing, right?
Your Loyal TriSec, proud member of Red Sox Nation, Yankee hater since he was a small boy....
Will probably watch the last game from the Stadium and perhaps even shed a wee tear. No other sport is aware of it's history and it's monuments like baseball is.
Yankee Stadium was destroyed by greed, plain and simple.
TriSec on 09/21/2008 19:27:16
Quote by livingonli:
You know that crt's not getting that game in her area?
Ummm?
That's a good thing, right?
Your Loyal TriSec, proud member of Red Sox Nation, Yankee hater since he was a small boy....
Will probably watch the last game from the Stadium and perhaps even shed a wee tear. No other sport is aware of it's history and it's monuments like baseball is.
Yankee Stadium was destroyed by greed, plain and simple.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:28:48
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:28:48
I have to look it up. The Village Voice had a story last week on how they overvalued the land for the New Yankee stadium so that the taxpayers are paying more for its building than the property is worth.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:30:43
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:30:43
Tri, are you watching the Red Sox game? I can guess you're not watching the Pats game.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 19:33:44
Raine on 09/21/2008 19:33:44
Liv, I can't find the braves game down here... what is the score?
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:35:30
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:35:30
Mets still up 4-2 in the Bottom of the 6th. Isn't SportsSouth or FSN South showing the game?
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:42:46
livingonli on 09/21/2008 19:42:46
Ah, shit!
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:01:58
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:01:58
Now we're cooking. Giants better hold the lead.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:05:21
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:05:21
Giants nail biter! Cincy just tied it up with 4 seconds.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:05:41
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:05:41
Going into OT. Looks like I may end up listening to the end of the game on the radio.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:05:42
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:05:42
DAMMIT!
(raine is now watching the Giants game. ... )
(raine is now watching the Giants game. ... )
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:07:15
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:07:15
Travis Tritt is performing at the Braves game today.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:07:31
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:07:31
Eff this crap with the Giants. Bring on the Jags / Colts!
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:12:35
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:12:35
Since CBS has the doubleheader, the late games don't start until 4:15. Your CBS station should breakaway for it.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:17:00
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:17:00
Poop.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:17:44
HEy!!!
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:17:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
Eff this crap with the Giants. Bring on the Jags / Colts!
HEy!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:17:52
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:17:52
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:18:43
In my market! Jeez! I forget to put the :scarasm: emoticon and people get huffy!
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:18:43
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Eff this crap with the Giants. Bring on the Jags / Colts!
HEy!!!
In my market! Jeez! I forget to put the :scarasm: emoticon and people get huffy!
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:21:04
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:21:04
Mondo, you should know not to piss off a New York sports fan?
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:22:26
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:22:26
:nervous: we are awaiting the field goal for the win.
I said it before, and I will say it agian... the stats to this game do indeed make this a very close game.
I said it before, and I will say it agian... the stats to this game do indeed make this a very close game.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:23:55
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:23:55
Woot. That one was a nail biter. And next week, the Giants have a bye week.
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:25:12
livingonli on 09/21/2008 20:25:12
And now I better get to work.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:25:25
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:25:25
Woohoo! Giants WIN!!!!! 
:dance:
3-0... first time since 2K friends. This is a good good thing. ;)
:dance:3-0... first time since 2K friends. This is a good good thing. ;)
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:27:35
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:27:35
And now is the time when we play Sprockets...
Who do I root for??? Oh dear... Oh dear...
How are the braves doing?
Who do I root for??? Oh dear... Oh dear...
How are the braves doing?
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:28:38
A nail biter and a great football game.
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:28:38
Quote by livingonli:
Woot. That one was a nail biter. And next week, the Giants have a bye week.
A nail biter and a great football game.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:41:40
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:41:40
OK... I need some help. with a commercial... The new *i'm a pc' commerical by windows... is the guy who says he is a blogger for Obama wearing a MCAIN button????
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:44:09
Better a NY fan than a Philly fan. They used to have a muni court at the old Vet.
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:44:09
Quote by livingonli:
Mondo, you should know not to piss off a New York sports fan?
Better a NY fan than a Philly fan. They used to have a muni court at the old Vet.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:51:57
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 20:51:57
Screw football! Woman's beach volleyball on Fox! :metal:
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:57:07
I know, I know... but this being Atl... I was concerned they would break away here as well.
I got my Giants fix... Damn they are good at the end of a game.
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:57:07
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Eff this crap with the Giants. Bring on the Jags / Colts!
HEy!!!
In my market! Jeez! I forget to put the :scarasm: emoticon and people get huffy!
I know, I know... but this being Atl... I was concerned they would break away here as well.
I got my Giants fix... Damn they are good at the end of a game.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 20:58:19
Dahhright squeezy... settle down....
:rofl:
Raine on 09/21/2008 20:58:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
Screw football! Woman's beach volleyball on Fox! :metal:
Dahhright squeezy... settle down....
:rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 21:02:50
It is the quadrennial post Olympic bump with coverage on something besides ESPN2.
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 21:02:50
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Screw football! Woman's beach volleyball on Fox! :metal:
Dahhright squeezy... settle down....
:rofl:
It is the quadrennial post Olympic bump with coverage on something besides ESPN2.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 21:17:10
Raine on 09/21/2008 21:17:10
I just heard that the braves beat the Mets.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 21:18:19
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 21:18:19
Coors Light has mountains that turn blue when the beer is cold? How fucking stupid do you have to be to not be able to tell when a beer is cold?
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:41:27
They're trying to distract from how nasty the pisswater inside the bottle is by having you focus on the outside of the bottle.
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:41:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
Coors Light has mountains that turn blue when the beer is cold? How fucking stupid do you have to be to not be able to tell when a beer is cold?
They're trying to distract from how nasty the pisswater inside the bottle is by having you focus on the outside of the bottle.
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:43:56
We could've gone down to Taco Mac to watch the games, but we just can't afford to sit and drink beer and eat for 3 hours at a restaurant every Sunday.
We'll go down the next time they're playing because the Giants games just don't get played here in the big ATL.
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:43:56
Quote by livingonli:
Raine, are you someplace with the ticket?
We could've gone down to Taco Mac to watch the games, but we just can't afford to sit and drink beer and eat for 3 hours at a restaurant every Sunday.
We'll go down the next time they're playing because the Giants games just don't get played here in the big ATL.
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:46:01
Considering how the Braves are doing this year... it's over.
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:46:01
Quote by velveeta jones:
Um, baseball. It ain't over 'til it's over!
*ahem*
Considering how the Braves are doing this year... it's over.
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:46:47
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:46:47
oh, and the beer is in the bucket. I made an Oktoberfest this time, so it should be ready to drink in about 3 weeks.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 21:49:59
Raine on 09/21/2008 21:49:59
You know... the reason why they called it the *House that Ruth Built* was because in 1923, the built this stadium to accomodate fans of Babe Ruth. It was the First 3 tiered baseball stadium ever built.
So many memories here in this field. I know what Tri means when he talks of BAseball remembering it's history. I am so blessed to have been able to watch games here.
Actually, now that I live down south... I should have said , There.
So many memories here in this field. I know what Tri means when he talks of BAseball remembering it's history. I am so blessed to have been able to watch games here.
Actually, now that I live down south... I should have said , There.
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:50:19
The first question that two Atlantans ask each other when they meet for the first time is "so where are you from?". :P
I know a few natives (like Stan - HI STAN!
oops, I mean 
I KNOW you wanted to see that...), but they're hard to find.
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:50:19
Quote by livingonli:
I wonder how many New Yorkers now live in Atlanta? Hey, with the cost of living getting out of hand here that area probably becomes more attractive.
Damn, Bengals scored another field goal, but I see that the fins are stomping the Pats.
The first question that two Atlantans ask each other when they meet for the first time is "so where are you from?". :P
I know a few natives (like Stan - HI STAN!
oops, I mean I KNOW you wanted to see that...), but they're hard to find.
Comment by BobR on 09/21/2008 21:51:53
That's nicer than I would've put it... :P
BobR on 09/21/2008 21:51:53
Quote by TriSec:
Ummm?
That's a good thing, right?
That's nicer than I would've put it... :P
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 21:52:18
That should be easy to do for people who drink Coors...
Raine on 09/21/2008 21:52:18
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Coors Light has mountains that turn blue when the beer is cold? How fucking stupid do you have to be to not be able to tell when a beer is cold?
They're trying to distract from how nasty the pisswater inside the bottle is by having you focus on the outside of the bottle.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 22:04:06
Raine on 09/21/2008 22:04:06
Congrats to the Red Sox tonite!!! Tri tell me, Do the sox need the orioles to win this evening to secure the Wildcard spot?
IF the orioles lose, does it remain a tie?
Please help me. I would like very much for my team to win the last game. I would -- I do not want to have the fianl game to be a one last final conflict between the teams...
IF the orioles lose, does it remain a tie?
Please help me. I would like very much for my team to win the last game. I would -- I do not want to have the fianl game to be a one last final conflict between the teams...
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 22:04:44
Raine on 09/21/2008 22:04:44
I think I am having a pipe dream here.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 22:32:23
Raine on 09/21/2008 22:32:23
JAx up, 17-14.... looks like it could be 20 in a few plays.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 22:55:52
Raine on 09/21/2008 22:55:52
20-14==== Just saying...
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:05:37
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:05:37
Wow, this game is turning into a nailbiter.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:06:38
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:06:38
A 51 yard field goal? no way. Way???
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:07:24
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:07:24
here we go... 51 yard atempt
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:08:02
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:08:02
WOW!!!!! Jax WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:09:18
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:09:18
4 seconds left!
Sorry Izzy... I was never sure who to cheer for, this was just a great football game.
Sorry Izzy... I was never sure who to cheer for, this was just a great football game.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:10:22
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:10:22
Game done.
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:11:55
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:11:55
Ok, we are now watching Pittsburgh V Philly... philly up 15-6.
Hmmm... 2 minutes left... pittsburgh can still pull this out... :xfingers:
Hmmm... 2 minutes left... pittsburgh can still pull this out... :xfingers:
Comment by Raine on 09/21/2008 23:13:01
Raine on 09/21/2008 23:13:01
OK, maybe not.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 23:28:22
That is very Del Rio. He likes the go for it risks. I ended up napping on the couch with the cats.
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 23:28:22
Quote by Raine:
here we go... 51 yard atempt
That is very Del Rio. He likes the go for it risks. I ended up napping on the couch with the cats.
Comment by TriSec on 09/21/2008 23:36:55
TriSec on 09/21/2008 23:36:55
*unsolicited endorsement*
Haven't mopped the kitchen floor since Memorial Day? (
)
Don't put down a new floor; try Pine Sol! <-- floor sparkly sound
Lessee....Sox are tied for the wild card. If the Yanks lose tonight, they clinch *at least* the wildcard berth. (I don't think they can catch the Rays, but no matter.)
Haven't mopped the kitchen floor since Memorial Day? (
)Don't put down a new floor; try Pine Sol! <-- floor sparkly sound
Lessee....Sox are tied for the wild card. If the Yanks lose tonight, they clinch *at least* the wildcard berth. (I don't think they can catch the Rays, but no matter.)
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 23:39:41
Sounds like the women's volleyball was a bit too much.
livingonli on 09/21/2008 23:39:41
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
here we go... 51 yard atempt
That is very Del Rio. He likes the go for it risks. I ended up napping on the couch with the cats.
Sounds like the women's volleyball was a bit too much.
Comment by TriSec on 09/21/2008 23:41:43
TriSec on 09/21/2008 23:41:43
Shaughnessey on the Pats
...Worse, they were thrashed by a team that was assembled by Bill Parcells. They repeatedly were tricked by direct snaps to running back Ronnie Brown, who ran for four touchdowns and threw for another (there was an unconfirmed report the Dolphins tailback took a call from the Commander in Chief, who told him, "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job").
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 23:47:41
Most.Disturbing.Image.Ever. :thud:
Mondobubba on 09/21/2008 23:47:41
Most.Disturbing.Image.Ever. :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 09/21/2008 23:57:51
livingonli on 09/21/2008 23:57:51
And now it's time for dinner.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 00:46:37
Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 00:46:37
C'mon Bal-tee-more! Score that last run in Yankee Stadium!
Score that last run in Yankee Stadium!
Comment by livingonli on 09/22/2008 01:16:20
livingonli on 09/22/2008 01:16:20
29 diggs. That must be a record for the blog.
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 01:37:34
It is! :clap:
Raine on 09/22/2008 01:37:34
Quote by livingonli:
29 diggs. That must be a record for the blog.
It is! :clap:
Comment by TriSec on 09/22/2008 01:47:50
TriSec on 09/22/2008 01:47:50
Raine, write this down.
Tonight, I'm a Yankees fan.
My love of the game transcends petty bickering. (Did you know that Javi's first look at a baseball game was the Yankees? It was on in the hotel at 8am in Manila)
Even if it hurts the Sox for a day...the Yankees should win their last game in the stadium.
And speaking of which, Raine asked me a while ago to tell the story about The Miracle of the Radio.
Tonight, I'm a Yankees fan.
My love of the game transcends petty bickering. (Did you know that Javi's first look at a baseball game was the Yankees? It was on in the hotel at 8am in Manila)
Even if it hurts the Sox for a day...the Yankees should win their last game in the stadium.
And speaking of which, Raine asked me a while ago to tell the story about The Miracle of the Radio.
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 01:57:13
:)
:wub2:
Raine on 09/22/2008 01:57:13
Quote by TriSec:
Raine, write this down.
Tonight, I'm a Yankees fan.
My love of the game transcends petty bickering. (Did you know that Javi's first look at a baseball game was the Yankees? It was on in the hotel at 8am in Manila)
Even if it hurts the Sox for a day...the Yankees should win their last game in the stadium.
And speaking of which, Raine asked me a while ago to tell the story about The Miracle of the Radio.
:)
:wub2:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 02:21:44
Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 02:21:44
Efffing Ari. :rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 02:27:49
Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 02:27:49
Effing Drama! :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 09/22/2008 02:57:04
livingonli on 09/22/2008 02:57:04
Cowboys are up 27-9. Good thing I'm mot watching that game.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/22/2008 03:09:11
m-hadley on 09/22/2008 03:09:11
Heya Kids,
Here's a groovy idea (excuse me if y'all have already gotten this e-mail :D).
you may have received this idea already,
but what a good idea...
I received this from Teri Matelson who got the idea from a friend of hers....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Instead of (in addition to?) us all sending around emails about how horrible she is, let's all make a donation to Planned Parenthood, in Sarah Palin's name. And here's the good part: when you make a donation to Planned Parenthood in her name, they'll send her a card telling her that the donation has been made in her honor. Here's the link to the Planned Parenthood website:
https://secure.ga0.org/02/pp10000_inhonor
You'll need to fill in the address to let PP know where to send the "in Sarah Palin's honor" card. I suggest you use the address for the McCain campaign headquarters, which is:
McCain for President
1235 S. Clark Street
1st Floor
Arlington, VA 22202
I just sent PP a small donation in Mrs. Palin's name - I love the win/win aspect of this campaign. Nothing sez we're thinking of you as the mother of an unwed pregnant teen like a donation in your honor to Planned Parenthood :P
Cheers.
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
Here's a groovy idea (excuse me if y'all have already gotten this e-mail :D).
you may have received this idea already,
but what a good idea...
I received this from Teri Matelson who got the idea from a friend of hers....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Instead of (in addition to?) us all sending around emails about how horrible she is, let's all make a donation to Planned Parenthood, in Sarah Palin's name. And here's the good part: when you make a donation to Planned Parenthood in her name, they'll send her a card telling her that the donation has been made in her honor. Here's the link to the Planned Parenthood website:
https://secure.ga0.org/02/pp10000_inhonor
You'll need to fill in the address to let PP know where to send the "in Sarah Palin's honor" card. I suggest you use the address for the McCain campaign headquarters, which is:
McCain for President
1235 S. Clark Street
1st Floor
Arlington, VA 22202
I just sent PP a small donation in Mrs. Palin's name - I love the win/win aspect of this campaign. Nothing sez we're thinking of you as the mother of an unwed pregnant teen like a donation in your honor to Planned Parenthood :P
Cheers.
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 03:20:38
Raine on 09/22/2008 03:20:38
:::: sniff ::::
Is this REALLY really it?
Is this REALLY really it?
Comment by livingonli on 09/22/2008 03:36:48
livingonli on 09/22/2008 03:36:48
Unless Baltimore scores 4 more runs, another half-inning left.
Comment by BobR on 09/22/2008 03:47:45
BobR on 09/22/2008 03:47:45
I think I need to run to the store and buy a case of tissues...
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 03:48:17
Raine on 09/22/2008 03:48:17
:cry:
The last one out, please, turn out the lights. :cry:
The last one out, please, turn out the lights. :cry:
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 03:49:40
Raine on 09/22/2008 03:49:40
:cry: 
:cry: :cry: :cry:
I am so sorry everyone.
:(
:cry: :cry: :cry: I am so sorry everyone.
:(
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 03:59:28
Raine on 09/22/2008 03:59:28
No one is leaving Yankee Stadium... Damn!
May I say this... I LOVE Mariano... It is so amazing how far he he has come --- not playing the game, but SPEAKING english!
Say what you want.... this is the end of an Era... an 85 year Era.
And the Stands are still filled.
May I say this... I LOVE Mariano... It is so amazing how far he he has come --- not playing the game, but SPEAKING english!
Say what you want.... this is the end of an Era... an 85 year Era.
And the Stands are still filled.
Comment by BobR on 09/22/2008 04:08:09
BobR on 09/22/2008 04:08:09
Tonight - we are all Yankees fans... :hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 04:09:23
That is so very cool! Pary on guys! Break the new stadium with a party like this!
Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 04:09:23
Quote by Raine:
No one is leaving Yankee Stadium... Damn!
May I say this... I LOVE Mariano... It is so amazing how far he he has come --- not playing the game, but SPEAKING english!
Say what you want.... this is the end of an Era... an 85 year Era.
And the Stands are still filled.
That is so very cool! Pary on guys! Break the new stadium with a party like this!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 04:10:26
Ummmm d'oh alright! Just for this night. We shall never speak of it again! :D
Mondobubba on 09/22/2008 04:10:26
Quote by BobR:
Tonight - we are all Yankees fans... :hug:
Ummmm d'oh alright! Just for this night. We shall never speak of it again! :D
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 04:12:52
Raine on 09/22/2008 04:12:52
The ghosts Are leaving the building... Mantle, Rizzuto, Maris, Ruth, Lou, Joe D, So many Ghosts.
So many greats. So much History.
(Don't wanna forget yogi --- he ain't a ghost yet... right...
I LOVE yogi!!!) I KNOW I could go one...
So many greats. So much History.
(Don't wanna forget yogi --- he ain't a ghost yet... right...
I LOVE yogi!!!) I KNOW I could go one...
Comment by BobR on 09/22/2008 04:19:27
I LOVE this!!
BobR on 09/22/2008 04:19:27
Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids,
Here's a groovy idea (excuse me if y'all have already gotten this e-mail :D).
you may have received this idea already,
but what a good idea...
I received this from Teri Matelson who got the idea from a friend of hers....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Instead of (in addition to?) us all sending around emails about how horrible she is, let's all make a donation to Planned Parenthood, in Sarah Palin's name. And here's the good part: when you make a donation to Planned Parenthood in her name, they'll send her a card telling her that the donation has been made in her honor. Here's the link to the Planned Parenthood website:
https://secure.ga0.org/02/pp10000_inhonor
You'll need to fill in the address to let PP know where to send the "in Sarah Palin's honor" card. I suggest you use the address for the McCain campaign headquarters, which is:
McCain for President
1235 S. Clark Street
1st Floor
Arlington, VA 22202
I just sent PP a small donation in Mrs. Palin's name - I love the win/win aspect of this campaign. Nothing sez we're thinking of you as the mother of an unwed pregnant teen like a donation in your honor to Planned Parenthood :P
Cheers.
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
I LOVE this!!
Comment by Raine on 09/22/2008 04:26:47
Indeed!!! My goodness, it makes us look like the people we really are... CARING!
Seriously, I love this idea... truthfully ...
MY only Small concern i those Puma people mind find out... But then again... I don't think the really know about PP.
Raine on 09/22/2008 04:26:47
Quote by BobR:Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids,
Here's a groovy idea (excuse me if y'all have already gotten this e-mail :D).
you may have received this idea already,
but what a good idea...
I received this from Teri Matelson who got the idea from a friend of hers....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Instead of (in addition to?) us all sending around emails about how horrible she is, let's all make a donation to Planned Parenthood, in Sarah Palin's name. And here's the good part: when you make a donation to Planned Parenthood in her name, they'll send her a card telling her that the donation has been made in her honor. Here's the link to the Planned Parenthood website:
https://secure.ga0.org/02/pp10000_inhonor
You'll need to fill in the address to let PP know where to send the "in Sarah Palin's honor" card. I suggest you use the address for the McCain campaign headquarters, which is:
McCain for President
1235 S. Clark Street
1st Floor
Arlington, VA 22202
I just sent PP a small donation in Mrs. Palin's name - I love the win/win aspect of this campaign. Nothing sez we're thinking of you as the mother of an unwed pregnant teen like a donation in your honor to Planned Parenthood :P
Cheers.
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
I LOVE this!!
Seriously, I love this idea... truthfully ...
MY only Small concern i those Puma people mind find out... But then again... I don't think the really know about PP.
Comment by livingonli on 09/22/2008 06:26:26
livingonli on 09/22/2008 06:26:26
I see, now it's up to 37 diggs.
Comment by livingonli on 09/22/2008 07:13:46
livingonli on 09/22/2008 07:13:46
I'm looking for a miracle in my life.