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Lost man in a lost campaign. Where in the world is John McCain?
Author: Raine    Date: 10/02/2008 12:23:51

At this point, Most of us are aware that the Senate passed a version of the Financial Rescue Bill. (I believe that is what the kids are calling it these days.) I am sure that we will hear more details about it today and tomorrow as it heads to the House for their review and vote.

Yesterday, I watched C-Span, and saw some amazing speeches from our fine Democratic Senators. I must admit I don't know much about the bill, but they certainly inspired me. Some details:
Treasury’s $700 billion rescue plan for the financial markets passed the Senate Wednesday night, giving the White House new confidence it has turned the corner and can win final approval from Congress by Friday.

The 74-25 roll call endorsing the package featured a rare joint-return appearance by the two major presidential candidates, Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain, both of whom supported the measure.

The Senate galleries, usually empty at night, were packed with visitors on the left and right, and senators voted from their desks as if to underscore the seriousness of the legislation. Shortly before the vote, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) tried to capture the moment for posterity, calling this breakthrough “one of the finest moments in the history of the Senate. This is the kind of vote we are sent by our people to cast.”

Majority Leader Harry Reid added that “each United States senator this evening is facing a critical test of leadership.”

A second vote was needed immediately after to complete final passage, but that is not in doubt. The first vote Wednesday night was the bigger test and the administration is betting that with this bipartisan showing, it can marginalize the remaining opposition in the House, due to vote Friday....

[T]he revised Senate package blends in more than $100 billion in popular tax breaks as well as aid to rural schools important to House Republicans. And to build support among small town community banks, the bill raises the cap on insured deposits from $100,000 to $250,000.
I am sure our members here, along with our progressive radio friends will find the devil in those details. Please note, tho, that there seem to be no 'money quotes' from John McCain. Granted, I may have missed him... But I have not been able to find what he said on the house floor, or anything after, before or during his time in DC yesterday.

I also saw last night Senator Barack Obama giving a speech on the senate floor. What I did not see was John McCain. One would think, that during this bipartisan debate about a very important issue facing America, McCain would have spoken. He did after all suspend his campaign last week and run oh-so-quickly to save the country from certain economic meltdown, didn't he? Didn't? ok, well he ran right away after canceling on Lettermen and giving Katie Couric an interview. Then he ran quickly. Why, we nearly had to postpone democracy it was so very important.

So where was he yesterday? Oh, he gave a fabulous interview to the Des Moines Register, He then proceeded to praise Democratic Prsident Harry Truman, where he promptly gets lost on stage:


I am getting to a point of deep concern here. I am VERY happy that Obama is shooting upwards in the polls, and I think that we will have to work very hard for the next 33 days. There is however a frightening chance that this man can still win this election. We have been hearing that now that it's the fourth quarter in the 'game' things are bound to get craptacularly dirty. This man is not well. He is not healty.

And that scares me. I call for John McCain to release his medical records NOW and to get to a doctor because between the erratic behavior during a crisis last week, sometimes incoherent speech, a mean spirited nasty interview (from a newspaper that endorsed him), his missing from giving a speech on the senate floor, I don't want him as president. I want stability from a leader in unstable times and John McCain is just not doing that. I want a person who can make decisions in times of crisis and not run away like Sir Robin in Monty Python.

Tonite is the big VP debate, I am sure the news cycle will be centered around that, but I call on you, tell me, Where in the world is John McCain?

:peace: and
Raine
 

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Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 12:36:17
Raine - I really like this post. Correct me if I am wrong, but, we (well, I) care for the PERSON, John McCain - however, our country is too important to trust to him... with all of the unknowns? And scarier - the KNOWNS!

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 12:41:26
I agree. At this point I am really concerned about these unknowns.

With BOTH people on the republican ticket, truthfully.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 12:45:39
Morning :hug:

Comment by clintster on 10/02/2008 12:46:55
Mornin' everybody! One more day and I'm off for fall break. I'll actually get to listen to Steph next week!



Also, according to Electoral-vote.com, it's a 338-185-15 race today. What I find most surprising is that Georgia AND Texas have moved into potential play. IF you take all the barely and weak Republican states, as well as NC's tie. Barack could wind up with 435 electoral votes come November 4.



I can has REAL mandate?

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 12:48:15
Quote by Raine:

I agree. At this point I am really concerned about these unknowns.

With BOTH people on the republican ticket, truthfully.



I have to say - and I'm obviously not the "happy-clappy liberal" type...



I really have hope -- seeing the poll numbers in the electoral map.



I hope.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 12:52:39
Funny that McCain held his nose and voted for the bacon...



I'm kinda for the Rum tax credit - VIVA THE CAPTAIN!!!!

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 12:58:36
Quote by Shane-O:

Funny that McCain held his nose and voted for the bacon...



I'm kinda for the Rum tax credit - VIVA THE CAPTAIN!!!!


:pirate:

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:04:33
oh poop.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:05:30
OH! I take the poop back! the blog is back and humming.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:06:25
HEya Clint, have you seen how fast MArtin seems to be closing in on Saxby?





Georgia has a REAL chance to have a (D) as a senator!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 13:10:08
Hey

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:10:47
Reposting this this morning.



So people have time to print out their cards before the debate.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:11:40
Good morning Grump!



And EVERYONE else!





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 13:12:35
Obama crossed over into enemy territory.



He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.



McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.


More here

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 13:13:33
Quote by Raine:

Good morning Grump!



And EVERYONE else!





Hey Raine

Glade to know your doing well after the Dentist !

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 13:14:38
WooHoo! VA's going blue!

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:16:08
Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:22:43
I found John McCain... he was on MSNBC a few minutes ago, and all he is saying now... is "She'll be just fine, just fine" over and over.





And boy -- he looked miserable.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:27:24
Quote by Grumpymann:

Obama crossed over into enemy territory.



He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.



McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.


More here
He is really a pr*ck.



Even during the most tense moments of the primaries, when Obama and Clinton were on the senate floor they were cordial.



And he is supposed to bring this country together? Like I said, I am concerned about this man... mentally and physically.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 13:29:25
Right-Wing definition of "gotcha question" --- any question Palin doesn't know the answer to...

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 13:31:45
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Obama crossed over into enemy territory.



He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.



McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.


More here
He is really a pr*ck.



Even during the most tense moments of the primaries, when Obama and Clinton were on the senate floor they were cordial.



And he is supposed to bring this country together? Like I said, I am concerned about this man... mentally and physically.

What really gets to me is that when Chimpy tried to burn his child HIS CHILD!

McCain gave Chimpy a hug.

Obama told THE TRUTH.

And McCain has to be EMBARRASSED into shaking his hand.



I have no knowledge that McCain is a racEist.

I know he has said some racEist shit in his life but this episode makes me wonder.





Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:35:06
OMG. Caller is unhinged,

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:35:43
Go caller... go vote for Bob Barr.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 13:35:52


Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 13:36:41
Will - don't FUCK with the Mooks!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 13:38:22
he insulted Jim! :o



On guard! Bitch!

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:38:23
Quote by Grumpymann:

What really gets to me is that when Chimpy tried to burn his child HIS CHILD!

McCain gave Chimpy a hug.

Obama told THE TRUTH.

And McCain has to be EMBARRASSED into shaking his hand.



I have no knowledge that McCain is a racEist.

I know he has said some racEist shit in his life but this episode makes me wonder.



It makes me wonder as well. He has no problem calling people gooks.



Now, Sarah Palin, on the other hand...



Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 13:39:08
and it all has to be in the form of a question

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 13:39:53
Quote by Shane-O:

Will - don't FUCK with the Mooks!


:pirate:

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 13:41:37
they agreed after...



and it's after 90 seconds that Palin sinks. (and stinks).



They (the GOP) don't want to give her too much rope.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 13:42:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Will - don't FUCK with the Mooks!


:pirate:


That's two.



Perhaps I should move to the coast off Somalia???



Comment by Scoopster on 10/02/2008 13:46:17
Morning all! :coffee:



So tonight we get to see what all the hype was about. Was it just a regular ol' Alaskan snow job? Is this lady really as special, knowledgeable and motivated to lead as trusty old John McCain says she is?





:crickets:







Okay then.. I think I'm gonna order up a pizza and a six pack and watch some UFC instead.

Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 13:46:23
morning, folks... :coffee:

Comment by Scoopster on 10/02/2008 13:49:24
Quote by Raine:

Go caller... go vote for Bob Barr.


Yes! Absolutely!



No I'm not being sarcastic. I wish more people would consider casting their votes for third party candidates. Then just maybe we'd have some real conversation in this damn country about our real issues instead of this constant bickering between the greedies and the pussies..



(arrr! someone alert Hannity - scoop is a angry unhinged unAmerican socialist sympathiser!)

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 13:53:03
Quote by BobR:

morning, folks... :coffee:


Good morning, BobR!



Comment by clintster on 10/02/2008 13:56:51
Quote by Raine:

HEya Clint, have you seen how fast MArtin seems to be closing in on Saxby?





Georgia has a REAL chance to have a (D) as a senator!






I saw and heard that. They were talking about it on Morning Edition this AM. Considering how Saxby gained the office, I won't be sad to see him take the fall.

Comment by clintster on 10/02/2008 13:58:15
OK, off to give Intro to Tech Theatre midterms. Keep 'em flyin. BTW, are liveblarging the Veepstakes debate?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 14:08:25
gawd I wish the TV in the computer room picked up reg stations - I would love to live blog the debate.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 14:13:13
Mala can you stream the debate?



What station s does the TV get? This thing should be on pretty much ALL the stations, no?

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 14:14:05
Quote by clintster:

OK, off to give Intro to Tech Theatre midterms. Keep 'em flyin. BTW, are liveblarging the Veepstakes debate?


Arghhh!!! Yes, mate!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 14:15:32
Quote by Raine:

Mala can you stream the debate?



What station s does the TV get? This thing should be on pretty much ALL the stations, no?






I could try to do that, not sure how my home computer would handle it. the comuter here is more of a work horse then the one at home



Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 14:17:30
Randy Chastain

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 14:23:20
Morning my peeps! Busy volunteering at Dem. HQ today. Fun stuff. No Momma. :cry:

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 14:26:03
Damn I missed that jingle...

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:28:38
That bitch doesn't have the ability to be a socker mom.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 14:31:41
Almost every sentence --completed or not -- from sarah Palin goes like this:

"Well, [fill in the blank], You know, [fill in blank] Alaska."

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 14:32:38
Quote by Shane-O:

Randy Chastain




Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:36:23
The IDEA of bailing out these THIEVES. is untenable.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 14:38:10
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:38:23
It's FROZEN cuz WE don't have money!



Pay the people and see how quick this thing gets better!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:39:28
Not one dime for THE till there is a dime for ME!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:43:18
When pressed as to why he voted for the bailout package given all his ranting and complaining, McCain responded "This bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster." Does McCain know that he voted for the bailout bill?





Um ... Ladies and Gentlemen Your McCain!

Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 14:44:54
Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 14:46:03
Quote by Grumpymann:

The IDEA of bailing out these THIEVES. is untenable.


yeah, they definitely screwed up when they initially called this a "bailout bill".

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 14:47:19
Quote by Grumpymann:

It's FROZEN cuz WE don't have money!



Pay the people and see how quick this thing gets better!


Perhaps when over-extension of credit is an issue, when the credit markets contract - that's the "correction" that's needed?



Over borrowing - the real cause of this crisis?



When it evaporated - a credit crisis? - Maybe operating with less credit would solidify businesses and thus, the markets?



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 14:49:34
The scene: Duval Co Democratic HQ.



Woman: ...she just doesn't seem that swift on her feet

Woman two: yeah...

Me: (Off camera) SHE IS AS DUMB AS STUMP!

Laughter



And end scene!

Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 14:51:04
: executes perfect 3-point landing on blog airstrip :



Made it!



I was at the Fitzgerald this morning meeting with the principal to make sure the Cub Scouts could get back in the building.



I was successful. :party:





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:51:16
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Grumpymann:

The IDEA of bailing out these THIEVES. is untenable.


yeah, they definitely screwed up when they initially called this a "bailout bill".


We disagree Bob and we both know that.



But call Dog shit pumbkin pie and you still don't want it on your plate.



It's a bail out.



They are untrustworthy thieves.



And in the end they will walkaway free and the only weight they will carry is the taxes we need to fix the infrastructure and feed those that need food.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 14:51:36
:clap: lovely vinette

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 14:53:23
Good morning all.



BTW, for those following the other election North of the border, the party leaders' English debate is also tonight at the same time as the VP debate.

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 14:54:57
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Funny that McCain held his nose and voted for the bacon...



I'm kinda for the Rum tax credit - VIVA THE CAPTAIN!!!!


:pirate:


Captain Morgan for President.

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 14:55:06


Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 14:56:14
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Funny that McCain held his nose and voted for the bacon...



I'm kinda for the Rum tax credit - VIVA THE CAPTAIN!!!!


:pirate:


Captain Morgan for President.


"Do You Have A Little President In You?"



Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 14:56:16
Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 14:57:08
Quote by Grumpymann:

Obama crossed over into enemy territory.



He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.



McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.


More here


McCain is a mouse and not a man.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 14:58:03
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Grumpymann:

It's FROZEN cuz WE don't have money!



Pay the people and see how quick this thing gets better!


Perhaps when over-extension of credit is an issue, when the credit markets contract - that's the "correction" that's needed?



Over borrowing - the real cause of this crisis?



When it evaporated - a credit crisis? - Maybe operating with less credit would solidify businesses and thus, the markets?

How long will a bank be a bank with out money?

Not long.

The banks have money.



They are so afraid that they will not lend money to EACH OTHER!



True they lost money on derivatives (The catch all phrase for this paper tiger.) but they KNEW that they didn't have the money in the first place. That money existed ONLY on, cooked, balance sheets.



If people had money to buy crap THIS WOULD NOT be a problem. We as a public could pay for the crap that they sell.



Once again this is NOT a credit crisis this is a confidence crisis.



Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 14:59:25
Quote by Shane-O:

Right-Wing definition of "gotcha question" --- any question Palin doesn't know the answer to...




Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:00:27
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Obama crossed over into enemy territory.



He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.



McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.


More here


McCain is a mouse and not a man.
HEY! Just incase you didn't know that mouse was also a POW!



.... Show some respect! ....



Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 15:02:45
Looking at the electoral maps....oh, my!





Comment by starling310 on 10/02/2008 15:03:47
Some Good News....



From the Guardian. Check out the poll numbers on the right side of the page.



Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 15:04:14
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Grumpymann:

It's FROZEN cuz WE don't have money!



Pay the people and see how quick this thing gets better!


Perhaps when over-extension of credit is an issue, when the credit markets contract - that's the "correction" that's needed?



Over borrowing - the real cause of this crisis?



When it evaporated - a credit crisis? - Maybe operating with less credit would solidify businesses and thus, the markets?

How long will a bank be a bank with out money?

Not long.

The banks have money.



They are so afraid that they will not lend money to EACH OTHER!



True they lost money on derivatives (The catch all phrase for this paper tiger.) but they KNEW that they didn't have the money in the first place. That money existed ONLY on, cooked, balance sheets.



If people had money to buy crap THIS WOULD NOT be a problem. We as a public could pay for the crap that they sell.



Once again this is NOT a credit crisis this is a confidence crisis.



"Credit" = "Confidence"



Credit is the confidence that a lender feels that a recipeint of a loan will repay.



See the LIBOR.



Comment by Scoopster on 10/02/2008 15:04:43
Hey guess what? Remember McCain's biggest campaign mantra besides the maverick thing - you know, how he's fought against pork-barrel spending n all?



Well, not to be a asshole about it Johnny, but you just voted for a whole bunch of pork yesterday. And you basically said it was necessary.

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 15:05:49
Quote by BobR:

More poison from China


We really should just bar all food products made in China at this point.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:12:48
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Grumpymann:

It's FROZEN cuz WE don't have money!



Pay the people and see how quick this thing gets better!


Perhaps when over-extension of credit is an issue, when the credit markets contract - that's the "correction" that's needed?



Over borrowing - the real cause of this crisis?



When it evaporated - a credit crisis? - Maybe operating with less credit would solidify businesses and thus, the markets?

How long will a bank be a bank with out money?

Not long.

The banks have money.



They are so afraid that they will not lend money to EACH OTHER!



True they lost money on derivatives (The catch all phrase for this paper tiger.) but they KNEW that they didn't have the money in the first place. That money existed ONLY on, cooked, balance sheets.



If people had money to buy crap THIS WOULD NOT be a problem. We as a public could pay for the crap that they sell.



Once again this is NOT a credit crisis this is a confidence crisis.



"Credit" = "Confidence"



Credit is the confidence that a lender feels that a recipeint of a loan will repay.



See the LIBOR.



.... I'll give you that.



But you don't solve the problem of missborrowing money by... missborrowing money.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:15:04
This man is INSANE!

Comment by Shane-O on 10/02/2008 15:15:53
Quote by Grumpymann:



.... I'll give you that.



But you don't solve the problem of missborrowing money by... missborrowing money.


And I'll certainly give you that!



I say - don't borrow $700 Billion to grease the domestic credit wheels.



Comment by Scoopster on 10/02/2008 15:16:53
Quote by Grumpymann:

But you don't solve the problem of missborrowing money by... missborrowing money.


If the miss is cute enough, she can borrow from me anytime! :lol:

Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 15:19:12
[av-dork]



Happy birthday to American Jet Aviation! (younger than John McCain!)



The Bell P-59 "Airacomet" had it's first flight today in 1942. (With a Lynn, MA built GE turbojet on board.)



[/av-dork]



http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/060913-F-1234P-002.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 15:21:30
Mr Clean died! Well the guy that played him did. :sniff:

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:25:11
I think I made a friend!

We got a Chocolate Lab about 2 years ago.

(He is SO STOOPID!)



But for the most part he just slinks across the floor when I speak. (He was the runt and is very skiddish. )



But he just climbed up on the couch next to me squirmed his head under his arm and flipped his nose up to make me pet him.



Either he likes me or he REALLY HAS to go "Out"

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 15:25:25
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by BobR:

More poison from China


We really should just bar all food products made in China at this point.




then we would have nothing on the grocery shelves but wine and produce (and even that's questionable)



Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 15:25:58
Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 15:28:01
Quote by Grumpymann:

I think I made a friend!

We got a Chocolate Lab about 2 years ago.

(He is SO STOOPID!)



But for the most part he just slinks across the floor when I speak. (He was the runt and is very skiddish. )



But he just climbed up on the couch next to me squirmed his head under his arm and flipped his nose up to make me pet him.



Either he likes me or he REALLY HAS to go "Out"
Awww!!! :wub2:







Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 15:29:22
Quote by TriSec:





McCain drives a Lexus!





They let him drive?!?!!?



Now that scares me.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 15:30:08
Quote by TriSec:





McCain drives a Lexus!









I think I knew that. What was really interesting was the polling data about what kind of cars McCain and Obama supports own. Interesting, but weird.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 15:33:19
Today's earworm: Stealing People's Mail/Dead Kennedys.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 15:34:59
Are we SURE this isn't Carol Channing?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 15:36:07
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

I think I made a friend!

We got a Chocolate Lab about 2 years ago.

(He is SO STOOPID!)



But for the most part he just slinks across the floor when I speak. (He was the runt and is very skiddish. )



But he just climbed up on the couch next to me squirmed his head under his arm and flipped his nose up to make me pet him.



Either he likes me or he REALLY HAS to go "Out"
Awww!!! :wub2:







I second that - AAWWWWW!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:37:12
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

I think I made a friend!

We got a Chocolate Lab about 2 years ago.

(He is SO STOOPID!)



But for the most part he just slinks across the floor when I speak. (He was the runt and is very skiddish. )



But he just climbed up on the couch next to me squirmed his head under his arm and flipped his nose up to make me pet him.



Either he likes me or he REALLY HAS to go "Out"
Awww!!! :wub2:







Other than following my around the house (at a safe distance) the only thing he dose is try to sleep on my head.

(The older dog INSISTS on climbing in the bed when I lay down to go to sleep. And he tries to do EVERYTHING she dose.) When he gets in the bed he ALWAYS tries to slink across the pillow and lay across my head.

I don't know why but he whines when I tell him to get down.



He just seems to want leave me be.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 15:43:35
I love your dog stories Grump!

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 15:45:29
Quote by Raine:

Are we SURE this isn't Carol Channing?


But can she sing Diamonds are a girl's best friend?

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 15:47:51
Quote by Raine:

I love your dog stories Grump!


... He had to go out I just got finished cleaning up the evidence.





No he likes me

Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 16:07:00
Do we have a drinking game for tonight?



(I skipped my usual Wednesday nite martini to save my liver for tonight...)





Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 16:23:14
Quote by TriSec:

Do we have a drinking game for tonight?



(I skipped my usual Wednesday nite martini to save my liver for tonight...)





Raine posted one earlier today, but it was more like Bingo.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/02/2008 16:41:22
OT tonight was offered to me yesterday, and I'll take as much as I can get. So I doubt I'll be home in time to catch the debate since I'm more than an hour away. At least I sent a request in to my TiVo. Surprised it's not on MSNBC or CNN, just FNC and the SPAN. So the SPAN gets my vote.

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 16:57:42
I don't think the listings in your TiVo were updated. My cable EPG info has not been updated either. They are airing the VP debate at 9 followed by special post-debate editions of Countdown, Hardball, and I think Rachel will be on at 1 AM.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/02/2008 17:03:17
Quote by livingonli:

I don't think the listings in your TiVo were updated. My cable EPG info has not been updated either. They are airing the VP debate at 9 followed by special post-debate editions of Countdown, Hardball, and I think Rachel will be on at 1 AM.




This is from the actual TiVo website (through their web-based scheduler), so it's possible the service that provides that data may not be updated. In any event, the TiVo in the living room normally records Countdown then Rachel (then because it doesn't know better it records Countdown again). So that would mean I get the debate that way.



I have no idea how long I'm sticking around tonight. I could probably work 'till 11 if I wanted, but then there'd be no chance of me waking up at 4AM Friday.



And the TiVo in my computer room only gets analog cable, so no chance of getting MSNBC there, anyway.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 17:05:36
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I love your dog stories Grump!


... He had to go out I just got finished cleaning up the evidence.





No he likes me




:rofl:



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/02/2008 17:08:35
Ooooooh! The Stephcast has already been posted. WHOO HOO!

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 17:09:23
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Do we have a drinking game for tonight?



(I skipped my usual Wednesday nite martini to save my liver for tonight...)





Raine posted one earlier today, but it was more like Bingo.


Ooof... Tri, that one will get me passed out before her opening statement are over!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/02/2008 17:12:52
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I love your dog stories Grump!


... He had to go out I just got finished cleaning up the evidence.





No he likes me




:rofl:

The older dog just "Bit him" to get him off the couch.

(She is the dominate dog and she gets what she wants from him. As long as she s not really hurting him we stay out of it.)



Then he started playing with her fav toy right infront of her face.



When she hopped off the couch to chase and playing with him He played till she got to the other side of the couch let her have the toy and climbed on the couch and forced me to pet him.





Till I got off the couch then he followed me again!



You and Bob SURE you do not want a dog?



Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 17:37:35
Dow Jones Average on January 22, 2001 (Bush's first business day in office):



10,578.24





Dow Jones Average, current quote (October 2, 2008):



10,550.63





Fundamentals of the economy: SOUND!



(Actually, maybe this isn't such a bad thing. If the Dow reverts to the same price as the day he took office, does that mean we can pretend the past 8 years never happened?)



Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 18:16:43
Quote by TriSec:

Dow Jones Average on January 22, 2001 (Bush's first business day in office):



10,578.24





Dow Jones Average, current quote (October 2, 2008):



10,550.63





Fundamentals of the economy: SOUND!



(Actually, maybe this isn't such a bad thing. If the Dow reverts to the same price as the day he took office, does that mean we can pretend the past 8 years never happened?)





a reset as it were



Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 18:27:08
Anyone listening to Naomi Wolf on with Thom Hartmann? This covers a lot of territory that she also covered when I saw her with Lizz Winstead Monday night in the city.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 18:44:58
Naomi is freakin' me out.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:01:35
Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:01:39
Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:04:18
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

I love your dog stories Grump!


... He had to go out I just got finished cleaning up the evidence.





No he likes me




:rofl:

The older dog just "Bit him" to get him off the couch.

(She is the dominate dog and she gets what she wants from him. As long as she s not really hurting him we stay out of it.)



Then he started playing with her fav toy right infront of her face.



When she hopped off the couch to chase and playing with him He played till she got to the other side of the couch let her have the toy and climbed on the couch and forced me to pet him.





Till I got off the couch then he followed me again!



You and Bob SURE you do not want a dog?

Haven't you heard? We had a blessed event and adopted a beagle, actually, a Bagel (beagle and basset)



Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 19:15:08
Anyone watching Maron v. Seder? And Tri stretched the blog again.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 19:15:12
from DCRTV



Obama Channel On Dish Network - 10/2 - The Politico tells us that channel 73 on Dish Network is now all-Obama all-the-time. The Democrat's presidential campaign has bought the channel space and is running a two-minute ad over-and-over.....

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 19:16:43
Quote by Raine:

Haven't you heard? We had a blessed event and adopted a beagle, actually, a Bagel (beagle and basset)





I have to come down to Atlanta and see Kizzie.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 19:22:50
Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 19:29:40
Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes


:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:30:25
<------------------ New, extra crispy poll!

Comment by BobR on 10/02/2008 19:30:36
Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes


oh that's perfect!



Based on the music, I assume it will be in the Treehouse of Horror trilogy...

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:39:25
I want to make something clear, I m ok, not totally happy happy joy joy about this bill , but the reality is this...(and Shane brought this point up earlier)



There is pork in it, and if I recall, John MCain has been screaming that he will never allow any more pork.



McCain voted yes. Hypocrite much, Grampy?

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 19:41:11
OOfda, Randi... please stop yelling. Please.



And caller, stop and listen, Randi is actually making sense, but her yelling does not help her cause.

Comment by starling310 on 10/02/2008 19:42:11




turning on randi was a mistake.



Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 19:45:26
I'm probably glad I have Maron v. Seder on. They were doing a tournament on who the biggest douchebags are and Ghouilani won.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/02/2008 19:47:36
Quote by starling310:





turning on randi was a mistake.







I can't take Randi's yelling - switched to the Mike O'Meara show myself

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 19:52:58
Time to go head off to the salt mine. Hope Randi calms down by then.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 20:48:35
Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes






:spit: :rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/02/2008 21:32:18
The ever charming Ann Coulter. "Our beauteous Sarah?" "Eva Braun of evening news?" "Liberal senators...Robert Byrd" WTF? Does she have a bunch of manatees that push column ideas to the top of the pool and string them together each week for this bullshite.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/02/2008 21:51:09
After figuring out what's done so far and what there's left to do there's no chance I get home before the "debate" starts. Probably will still be working. But that means about 5-6 hours of OT for me.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/02/2008 22:40:10
Hello, bloggers.



I hope that everyone is doing well today.



For myself, it's been a day of running around and filling out job applications. (Still waiting to hear back form a few people on substitute teaching.)

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 22:54:11
Right now I am on one of the slowest computers at work.

Comment by TriSec on 10/02/2008 23:24:52
Harrumph.



I heard on the news tonight that it's the 30th anniversary of the day when a *certain* Mr. Dent of a *certain* New York baseball team earned his middle name.





Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:26:35
random so very...very....tired....

;jjjjjjjjjjj ;lllllll.../azxd

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 23:28:14
There is actually a comic book called Lesbian Pirates From Outer Space.

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:29:20
Quote by livingonli:

There is actually a comic book called Lesbian Pirates From Outer Space.


Why does that seem vaguely familiar...

I think i may have read that..

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:31:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

The ever charming Ann Coulter. "Our beauteous Sarah?" "Eva Braun of evening news?" "Liberal senators...Robert Byrd" WTF? Does she have a bunch of manatees that push column ideas to the top of the pool and string them together each week for this bullshite.


Isn't that how Family Guy is written?

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:33:00
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes


oh that's perfect!



Based on the music, I assume it will be in the Treehouse of Horror trilogy...


If it's what i think you're talking about...the part where he's sucked into the machine seems Treehouse of Horrorie...

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 23:35:02
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

The ever charming Ann Coulter. "Our beauteous Sarah?" "Eva Braun of evening news?" "Liberal senators...Robert Byrd" WTF? Does she have a bunch of manatees that push column ideas to the top of the pool and string them together each week for this bullshite.


Isn't that how Family Guy is written?


Well according to the writers of South Park anyway.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 23:35:23
I need to make an apology... I was not over at our message board earlier, If I was, I would have learned this information much sooner, thanks to our grumpymann.





And I made my opinion pretty clear about this situation over there. McCain is kinda toast.



Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 23:36:09
Quote by Random:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes


oh that's perfect!



Based on the music, I assume it will be in the Treehouse of Horror trilogy...


If it's what i think you're talking about...the part where he's sucked into the machine seems Treehouse of Horrorie...


It could be the opening bit before the episode starts. I wonder if there will be another joke about the episode likely airing in November again.

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:38:27
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

The ever charming Ann Coulter. "Our beauteous Sarah?" "Eva Braun of evening news?" "Liberal senators...Robert Byrd" WTF? Does she have a bunch of manatees that push column ideas to the top of the pool and string them together each week for this bullshite.


Isn't that how Family Guy is written?


Well according to the writers of South Park anyway.


I love me all them comedy cartoons...well execpt king of the hill. burn in hell Hank Hill!

That aside, i may like South Park, but Matt and Trey are pricks.

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:40:00
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:

Homer Votes


oh that's perfect!



Based on the music, I assume it will be in the Treehouse of Horror trilogy...


If it's what i think you're talking about...the part where he's sucked into the machine seems Treehouse of Horrorie...


It could be the opening bit before the episode starts. I wonder if there will be another joke about the episode likely airing in November again.


they did that a few years ago...

I don't normally watch the halloween specials.

Comment by Random on 10/02/2008 23:41:29
There are times I like Randi, and times she's a major bitch...



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Comment by velveeta jones on 10/02/2008 23:52:47
Woot!!!

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 23:54:21
Hi Velveeta. How was your day?

Comment by livingonli on 10/02/2008 23:57:36
Conflict (well for me anyway). Lizz will be on Sirius Left the same time Momma is on tomorrow morning.

Comment by Raine on 10/02/2008 23:59:39