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Author: BobR    Date: 10/08/2008 12:32:50

"THAT one"...

It was a tossed off comment in the middle of a sentence. It wasn't the centerpiece of McCain's response. During the debate, McCain was trying to make a point, and - to distinguish himself from Obama - pointed in his direction (without looking at him) and referred to Obama as "THAT one". It was dismissive in a very insulting way and it highlighted McCain's disdain for Obama.

See for yourself:


Could this be the "macacca" moment of his campaign?

For those with short memories, in the 2004 election, former senator George Allen (R-VA) pointed at a member of the press and said "say hello to Maccaca over there". That particular member of the press was NOT white. This dismissive tossed-off comment highlighted Allen's casual bigotry and arrogance, and may have cost him the election.

In McCain's case, it is just another clear instance of his disdain for Obama. He certainly didn't help himself post-debate when he ignored Obama's friendly overture of a handshake:


(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)

These may be little, but they offer glimpses into the soul of McCain, and the view is not pretty. They display an angry little man, furious that he is being beaten by someone he clearly considers his lesser. Whether that opinion is based in bigotry, Obama's age and short time in DC, or is just a result of McCain's inflated self-importance cannot be known with any certainty... but it certainly reflects on how his temperament would affect his potential presidency.

His supporters are worse, of course, and there seems to be a certain downward spiral of decency and decorum as the hatred feeds on itself. At a recent McCain rally, a supporter clearly refers to Obama as a terrorist, and McCain just goes with the flow:
McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear a supporter yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting. Oh, but McCain does say in the next sentence that he's upset about all the "angry barrage of insults." Is McCain losing his mind, or just a liar?
[...]
We'll hear it said that McCain can't be held responsible for what people in his audiences say. Right. Cause it's never happened before. Oh wait, it did. When an audience member asked, speaking of Hillary Clinton, "How do we beat the bitch?" McCain said it was "an excellent question." McCain fosters hatred and negativity by not standing up to it. He should know better. It's appalling and is destroying whatever is left of his reputation
(bold-face mine)

Where McCain opens the door and lets the miscreants in, Palin grabs a bullhorn and hollars "get yer red meat her, yoo betcha!". As noted by Dana Milbanks:
Barack Obama, she told 8,000 fans at a rally here Monday afternoon, "launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist!" This followed her earlier accusation that the Democrat pals around with terrorists. "This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America," she told the Clearwater crowd. "I'm afraid this is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country." The crowd replied with boos.
[...]
Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
[...]
The reception had been better in Clearwater, where Palin, speaking to a sea of "Palin Power" and "Sarahcuda" T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. "One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," she said. ("Boooo!" said the crowd.) "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

That last comment is telling. When a politician exudes hatred, his (or her) supporters take that hate and amplify it and spew it back out. These audience reactions are a direct result of McCain and Palin winking and saying "it's okay to hate. Look at me." It's a license to kill. Fortunately, the secret service is taking that "kill him" comment seriously and are investigating.

So while the ugly core of McCain's supporters will abosrb the "THAT one" comment and use it as fuel for their hatred, one can only hope that through media and word of mouth, McCain's casual dismissal of his opponent will open the eyes of the undecideds, and help them realize what sort of person McCain really is.

Unpresidential... hateful... racist...

McCacca.

 

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Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 12:40:39
Amazingly, no hangover! Mornin' everybody! Nice post, Bobber! Why am I using so many exclaimation points! I mean, ?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 12:46:39
Morning :hug:





Good to see you standing this morning Clint - what was it 13 "my friends" last night?

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 12:48:11
Morning, comrades!



I had a thought from last night....McCain was on and on about being a "cool hand at the tiller". I suppose it's an idiom of some kind, but realistically does anyone outside of the sailing community have any idea what a tiller is these days?



And of course, Edward J. Smith and William M. Murdoch were considered the most experienced, 'coolest hands on the tiller" back in their day, and look at what happened to them...





Comment by m-hadley on 10/08/2008 12:48:31
McCaca - I love it :P

No wonder he and Cindy Lou were out of there like Bonnie & Clyde after a bank robbery :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Today is the birthday of loverly Rebekah :airhump:

:dance: :hug:

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 12:53:02
FYI - For those that already read it, I just remembered to add this to the blog, right after the handshake video:



(note: not the first time McCain tried to avoid a handshake from Obama...)

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 12:54:32
I said it last night and I'm sure I will say again, about the "That one" comment. "he may as well called him boy and rubbed his head."

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 12:54:56
Good Morning!







Nice to see you among the living, Clint.



Happy Birthday to fair Rebecca!!!!





And--- I don't ever want to think of john McCacca and his cool hands on ANYTHING ever again. :::: shudder ::::

Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 12:55:19
Quote by wickedpam:

Morning :hug:





Good to see you standing this morning Clint - what was it 13 "my friends" last night?




14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 12:56:43
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 12:57:05
Quote by m-hadley:

McCaca - I love it :P

No wonder he and Cindy Lou were out of there like Bonnie & Clyde after a bank robbery :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:gobama:

Today is the birthday of loverly Rebekah :airhump:

:dance: :hug:
Actually, they left by about 1045, according to Rach last night.. she said that the Span made emntion of the time they left the building... it kept it's camera rolling for a bit... and according to reports the Obamas were there condiderably longer.



Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 12:57:06
Morning all! What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:



So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!



Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.



And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.



And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.



No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:00:31
Quote by clintster:

Quote by wickedpam:

Morning :hug:





Good to see you standing this morning Clint - what was it 13 "my friends" last night?




14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.




Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:00:40
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:



So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!



Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.



And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.



And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.



No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.


That was a wonderful post!

Mind if I use it?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 13:02:55
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:



So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!



Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.



And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.



And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.



No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.


That was a wonderful post!

Mind if I use it?


Sure you can - actually I was reading it over and thought 'damn that's good I need to expand on it'.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:05:41
Quote by Grumpymann:

I LOVE THIS!
Grumpy, tell me again of this thing they call karma? :P



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:09:01
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

I LOVE THIS!
Grumpy, tell me again of this thing they call karma? :P



You could call it that.

If it keeps happening, then I would call it justice.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:10:22
There is no way in hell last night was a draw.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:10:26
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! What a lovely hump day it is! :airhump:



So.. McBitter didn't formally drop the n-bomb, so I managed to stay quite sober last night. But cmon Johnny boy - are you seriously that pissed off that you've lost your two best chances to become President while you're still alive?!



Let's think about this for a second. McCain ran in 2000 and the race came down to him and Dubya.. and he got beat out by that numbnuts moron mommas-boy after a bullshit racist campaign that insulted his adopted child. He watches from his sideline perch in the Senate where he's forced to watch - and by ideology to participate - in the demolition of this country's moral and economic foundations. He watches as his party's fate leads them to the gutter, and then to the exit door of the halls of power.



And then he comes back now, years later, addled by age and illness and fury over the chance that was stolen from him by a fucking idiot. And he watches the country pass him by, because of that idiot's legacy, for someone so full of energy and promise and intelligence and sheer force of will.



And he stands there, the anger rising in him day after day, to the point where he can't even say the man's name or even shake his hand after a spirited discussion of the country's issues and concerns.



No, I don't think John McCain is a racist. I think he's just another victim of the Bush Legacy - a man whose best chance to satisfy his greatest ambition was spirited away by a imbecile, and whose second best chance happened after his own time had run out.


That was a wonderful post!

Mind if I use it?


Sure you can - actually I was reading it over and thought 'damn that's good I need to expand on it'.


Dude I WISH I could be this clear when I go off on a screed.

Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:10:39
Faux News - the Pythonic Black Knight of debate opinion

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/Monty_Python_2__limbless_Black_Knight.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:11:47
Another *click* moment...



McCain last night said that Teddy Roosevelt was his "hero".



All politics aside, wasn't Teddy the youngest man in history to assume the office of the Presidency? If he's McCain's hero, then shouldn't he not have any issue with Sen. Obama assuming the office, being somewhat older than Teddy? (Of course, the second Sarah joined the ticket, you'll notice the "experience" talking point went poof.)



Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:13:23
Quote by Raine:

There is no way in hell last night was a draw.




Faux is all about the new math



Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 13:13:58
Quote by clintster:

Faux News - the Pythonic Black Knight of debate opinion

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/Monty_Python_2__limbless_Black_Knight.jpg


Just a scratch....Just a scratch..

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 13:14:38
DAMN...

Random wants to start ending all his posts



- "That One"



So...Hi all



- "That One"

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:15:22


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:20:05
Shelagh!

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:20:08
Quote by TriSec:

Another *click* moment...



McCain last night said that Teddy Roosevelt was his "hero".



All politics aside, wasn't Teddy the youngest man in history to assume the office of the Presidency? If he's McCain's hero, then shouldn't he not have any issue with Sen. Obama assuming the office, being somewhat older than Teddy? (Of course, the second Sarah joined the ticket, you'll notice the "experience" talking point went poof.)



Teddy AND Reagan. McCacca is SUCH a whore... :P



Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:21:07
Cool. Shelagh!

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:21:16
You know, I thought McCain's only "genuine" moment last night came at the end...



When Tom Brokaw (worst moderator ever) told both of the candidates that they were in the way of the teleprompter, and McCain looked truly concerned and scampered out of the way...that seemed real.





Comment by velveeta jones on 10/08/2008 13:27:45
Morning all. Got back from work late and caught snippets of the debate last night and this a.m.



WOW! Do we need a towel to wipe the floor from the sweat of John McCain? What an angry little old man/gnome!!! In almost every clip I've seen he's either gritting his teeth or sitting in his chair looking at anything but Obama. While Obama seemed respectful.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:29:29
Out of the mouths of babes...

Javier, watching part of the first debate:



McCain hates everyone and wants them to die, right papa?





Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:29:50
In case you missed it yesterday, Iceland is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy...

Comment by m-hadley on 10/08/2008 13:30:39
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by clintster:

Quote by wickedpam:

Morning :hug:





Good to see you standing this morning Clint - what was it 13 "my friends" last night?




14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.




Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.





I heard is was nineteen (19 "my friends"), Clint, did you in fact do 19 shots of Vodka last night (BTB, I hope it was good vodka - stoli or webarowa, not some rot gut crap :P)

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:31:21
bbl

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:32:15
You know what else is still sticking in my craw from last night? While Obama Did Grin and perhaps chuckled at some of the absurd lies, John MCCAin visibly laughed at Obama.



He laughed. Very disconcerting considering the economy.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:32:40
The Fed is going to cut tax rates again, to 1.5%.



They might as well just give the money away. You think inflation is bad now? Watch the value of the dollar drop even more...

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:33:49
Wyborowa, ick.



I've been drinking a new import from Poland, Sobieski. That's pretty good.



To each his own, I suppose.



:peace:





Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 13:37:31
We're a sponsor of the Steal Back Your Vote effort --->

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:37:44
:nervous:



Greg ALWAYS makes me very very nervous.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:38:55
Quote by Raine:

:nervous:



Greg ALWAYS makes me very very nervous.


I made sure I checked to see if I was ok.

Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 13:39:56
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by clintster:

Quote by wickedpam:

Morning :hug:





Good to see you standing this morning Clint - what was it 13 "my friends" last night?




14. Fourteen friggin' friends. Seriously, though, I think that vodka had lost some of its potency. I was drinking my cheap, use-only-for-vodka-cream-sauce vodka. It may be time to get more, 'cause Daddy needs a Screwdriver.




Too bad you don't live closer I have a whole bottle of Absolut I could give you.





I heard is was nineteen (19 "my friends"), Clint, did you in fact do 19 shots of Vodka last night (BTB, I hope it was good vodka - stoli or webarowa, not some rot gut crap :P)

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:






Oh Faye, I'm afraid it was a cheapo, plastic-bottle, $10.99 for a 2 liter bottle vodak. I only caught 14 MFs; I guess I was so busy shooting and blogranting that I missed a couple.



BTW, Pammer, if you want to send that Absolut this way, go ahead! :)

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:48:41
I checked too Grump.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
McCain just lied ALL over the place last night. Serious lies. Not even shading the truth things... BIG whopper lies.



And I REALLY hated when he condescendingly said "before this crisis you probably never heard of Fannie or Freddie"









Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 13:53:26
Even though I just voted in the Mass Primary, I re-confirmed my registration within the past 10 days, too...



The widget on the Obama website didn't pick up my registration, so I went all foily there.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 13:55:21
HE isn't going to 'telegraph" that information...



BEcuase he is waiting for his overhead projector to arive on the ferry.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 13:57:57
durn it! I missed Greg!

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:57:58
Quote by Raine:

McCain just lied ALL over the place last night. Serious lies. Not even shading the truth things... BIG whopper lies.



And I REALLY hated when he condescendingly said "before this crisis you probably never heard of Fannie or Freddie"







I point THAT out all the time.



"Saying EASILY Verifiable FACT! Is not true. Is not opinion. IT'S A LIE! And to believe that some FACT is not true dose not make you opinionated it makes you CRAZY!"



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 13:58:44
Quote by wickedpam:

durn it! I missed Greg!


You still have me!

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:00:11
Good morning all.



I'm glad you're still with us, Clintster. I was worried there with your drinking game.



Just remember, the last debate at Hofstra is very close to me since a) it was my college and b ) I live just a few miles away from the campus.



Did Shelagh call in? I missed her. I hope she can finally get a working computer again so she can get back on line.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:03:19
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by wickedpam:

durn it! I missed Greg!


You still have me!




:D :hug:



Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:05:27
I want a hug.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:10:38
Quote by livingonli:

I want a hug.




Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:12:25
"That one"

McCain may as well patted Obama on the head and called him boy.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:14:43
I don't think you can be a human being and vote for McCain!



But it's not about what I think.

It's about what the VOTERS as a whole.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:15:29
That was EVERY peice of offensive thrown into one sentence.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 14:17:50
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:18:30
The Sub-Prime sector is a SMALL part of the ecomney.

And ONLY 16% of the sub-prime bowers were "minorities"!

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:19:06
Quote by Grumpymann:

"That one"

McCain may as well patted Obama on the head and called him boy.
IT was singularly disgusting.



I will say this tho... "that ONE WON" ---THAT WON!!! ;)



I don't know if McCAin is racist... But he hates the gooks and the Iranians... Remeber he hoped that the whole country would die of lung cancer?



Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:20:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

"That one"

McCain may as well patted Obama on the head and called him boy.
IT was singularly disgusting.



I will say this tho... "that ONE WON" ---THAT WON!!! ;)



I don't know if McCAin is racist... But he hates the gooks and the Iranians... Remeber he hoped that the whole country would die of lung cancer?



He's just turned into a bitter old man who feels that he should be entitled to the Presidency just like Hillary Clinton felt the nomination should be given to her on a silver platter.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:21:06
Can I borrow your mind?



Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:23:18
Quote by livingonli:

I want a hug.




:hug:



Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:25:40
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

"That one"

McCain may as well patted Obama on the head and called him boy.
IT was singularly disgusting.



I will say this tho... "that ONE WON" ---THAT WON!!! ;)



I don't know if McCAin is racist... But he hates the gooks and the Iranians... Remeber he hoped that the whole country would die of lung cancer?

I do think he's racEist.

(And for what he went through I, personally, am willing to give him a pass on that one.)



BUT I thin he is more importantly just plainly hateful.

McCain is what I joke about becoming a "Mean Old Man".

I jokes with a friend that I could boil down the whole McCain's campaign strategy "HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!)



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:25:46
Grampy may or may not be a racist... But there is no doubt in my mind that he is a xenophobe.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:27:55
Barack explained that health tax VERY well last night... HE has a new ad out about it... it's called Taketh away.

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:29:17
Don't forget everyone. Michelle Obama will be on The Daily Show tonight.

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:29:59
Who is keeping an eye on the Dow?

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:31:06
Here it is. Great commercial.







Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:31:10
Quote by livingonli:

Don't forget everyone. Michelle Obama will be on The Daily Show tonight.


terrist! FIST JAB!

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 14:32:34
Quote by Grumpymann:

Who is keeping an eye on the Dow?






It's quiet so far...hovering around 9400, down just 30 points right now.





Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:33:44
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Who is keeping an eye on the Dow?






It's quiet so far...hovering around 9400, down just 30 points right now.





thanks.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 14:34:06
Quote by Grumpymann:

Can I borrow your mind?



Heh.. that reminds me of an awesome comic I saw yesterday.. Lemme go find it.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:34:31
Quote by Grumpymann:

Who is keeping an eye on the Dow?
it down by 50-60 points. Kinda crazy this morning.







Right now tho, I am worried about Iceland



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:36:00
Glenn Greenwald!

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:36:53
Joe Biden is back on the campaign trail today! welcome back Joe! we Missed you!

Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 14:37:34
Hmmm... "Cantaloop" could really use the Grampy-Milfy treatment . Shane-O?

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 14:37:36
The job of a VP is TO BE PRESIDENT!

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:38:59
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Who is keeping an eye on the Dow?
it down by 50-60 points. Kinda crazy this morning.







Right now tho, I am worried about Iceland



Didn't someone post here yesterday that Pakistan is in a similar situation?

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:41:22
I saw Glenn Greenwald at Shoot the Messenger a few months back. He really showed the history of right-wing hypocrisy and projection.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:43:08
Quote by Grumpymann:

The job of a VP is TO BE PRESIDENT!
YES.





IT the Ultimate Understudy Role.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:44:32
Finally! Nouveau Numbers at offically IN!

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 14:46:04
Quote by wickedpam:

Finally! Nouveau Numbers at offically IN!




Beaujolais-Nouveau??



Just 6 more weeks!



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:47:15
Dow is down about 130 now...

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:50:30
That was a long way to go to say Shakira... :rolleyes:

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 14:50:47
Quote by Raine:

Dow is down about 130 now...


Here we go again.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 14:54:10
DAMNIT! Okay fine I'll just describe it 'cuz I can't find the thing..



It was like.. someone asks what George Washington would think if he were alive today.. so this dude goes to his grave, digs him up, does a demonic incantation, and asks.



The response: BRAAAAAAAAINS!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 14:54:11
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by wickedpam:

Finally! Nouveau Numbers at offically IN!




Beaujolais-Nouveau??



Just 6 more weeks!







trust me I know



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:55:11
eeep. Britian has announced plans to partially nationalize it's banks.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 14:56:09
Say now, who was our last Harvard educated president?



The last few have been Yalies...I think that's enough of that.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 14:56:48
Oh, and Harvard Business School doesn't really count; I mean they came to Cambridge and spend four years in The Yard.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 14:56:58
You know... Jello... he said JELLO.



Kinda non sequitory there, no?

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:08:45
Quinnipiac poll in Pennsylvania has Barack at 54%, Gramps 39% for the state..

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:10:45
So far all the polls have Obama as winning the debate usually by 20-30 points.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 15:11:30
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2008 15:13:18
OK - I had to post this one because I've seen that top defibrillator come through the test area more times than I can count.



http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/trojanrabbit74/Fark%20stuff/defibrillator.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 15:15:12




Can we see you at the real one?







Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:15:13
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20081008/2008_10_07t223656_450x273_us_usa_politics.jpg


That woman looks scared of grampy///

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:15:14
Oh wow.. this is good.



http://www.snapdrive.net/files/201743/rumsfield1.gif


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 15:15:33
I smell a caption contest...



Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 15:19:22
Quote by TriSec:

Say now, who was our last Harvard educated president?



The last few have been Yalies...I think that's enough of that.




Our last Crimson was JFK, interestingly enough.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 15:20:03
Quote by TriSec:





Can we see you at the real one?









:huh:



Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:21:02
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-palindrome-forward-backward.jpg




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:22:45
Here is something I would like to know.. since all those voters in the audience las t night were undecided... how many of them still are?



Has anyone polled those people yet? or did I miss that?

Comment by clintster on 10/08/2008 15:24:39
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20081008/2008_10_07t223656_450x273_us_usa_politics.jpg


"Did he just say "My friendssss" AGAIN? Good thing I ain't a-drinkin'.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 15:24:52
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by TriSec:





Can we see you at the real one?









:huh:





did you mean was I going to go down to the Mall that day. Right now I'm saying a big Yes :D



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:24:52
:spit: Scoop!!! perfect!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2008 15:26:07
Good morning, bloggers!! Excellent blog entry, BobR!!



I have been busy, but I saw the debate -- and any angry old man who was disrespectful and dismissive.



The campaign has become horrifically ugly, and I hope that Joe Biden will ask of Sarah Palin and John McCain: "At long last, governor, senator, do you have no decency?"



The current edition of the Daily Headlines are up at UNN - but I plan to add Scoopster's entry at the Daily Kos to the Blogosphere section. (Great job, BobR.)

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 15:27:37
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Graphic/2008/10/08/Untitled-1__1223479002_5975.jpg






Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 15:28:21
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2008 15:28:22
Forget the link to the Daily Headlines.



I have been running around, and jumping through hoops to get some teaching work. As this is Arizona, these are flaming hopes. Hmm, may be at his next debate, John McCain will give a display of spontaneous human combustion. (If so, I will resist the urge to run up with some hot dogs, marshmallows and SMORES.) ;)

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/08/2008 15:30:25
Quote by livingonli:

Don't forget everyone. Michelle Obama will be on The Daily Show tonight.


Damn work and my silly teenage boss!!! :wail:



:boom:



Oh, wait, Daily Show? 11:00 PM? Yeah, I'll make that....... someone glue me back together. ^^^^







Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:35:18
Joe Biden is on MSNBC right now!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:36:19
I'm finding so many good ones today!



http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/putinpalin.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:38:08
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

Forget the link to the Daily Headlines.



I have been running around, and jumping through hoops to get some teaching work. As this is Arizona, these are flaming hopes. Hmm, may be at his next debate, John McCain will give a display of spontaneous human combustion. (If so, I will resist the urge to run up with some hot dogs, marshmallows and SMORES.) ;)




HEya will!



Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:38:20
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:38:48
Joe is ON FIRE!

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:42:06
Joe Biden On McCAin: You can't call yourself a mverick when all you've been is a sidekick.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 15:42:51
Quote by Raine:

Joe Biden On McCAin: You can't call yourself a mverick when all you've been is a sidekick.








Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:43:44
The problem with John McCAin is not that he finally saw the light, it's that he saw the presidency slipping away from his grasp.



J. Biden.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:45:06
Damn I have missed OUR attack dog... I am so glad Joe is back on the trail.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 15:45:52
Quote by Grumpymann:

I do think he's racEist.

(And for what he went through I, personally, am willing to give him a pass on that one.)



BUT I thin he is more importantly just plainly hateful.

McCain is what I joke about becoming a "Mean Old Man".

I jokes with a friend that I could boil down the whole McCain's campaign strategy "HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!)


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/DerfMcCainLawn.gif


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:48:40
I love this... Joe is actually talking about what obama is going to do... how refreshing.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:49:27
Admin Edit: NOT WORK SAFE (but funny as hell)



Man.. should I slap myself for laughing at this?



Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 15:51:07
Got a lunch meeting....I'll be Bach. YOU be Mozart.



(It's the Green Team, we're discussing ways to increase bicycle commuting next summer. Right now there's a lack of safe storage areas around the building.)





Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2008 15:54:44
Quote by Raine:

I love this... Joe is actually talking about what obama is going to do... how refreshing.




McCain was very vague last night - save for the buying back the home program which seems to have alienated even more of his conservative base.



People want to know what a candidate will do for America. Of course, in the case of John McCain, it may be what he will do to America between naps.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 15:57:57
Oops.. I shoulda NWS labelled that one thanks Bobber ^^/

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 15:59:23
Quote by Scoopster:

Admin Edit: NOT WORK SAFE (but funny as hell)



Man.. should I slap myself for laughing at this?



That is really wrong...

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 16:03:55
Quote by TriSec:

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Graphic/2008/10/08/Untitled-1__1223479002_5975.jpg






Ha...That's great...



- "That One"

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:07:43
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/09/39/59/orignal_759399_87XQ1Uc_mike10082008.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:10:19
Quote by Scoopster:

Admin Edit: NOT WORK SAFE (but funny as hell)



Man.. should I slap myself for laughing at this?







OMG! Hello everybody. Here is a helpful hint. Do not take Tylenol PM analog in the middle of the night. You will wake up in the middle of the day. :wacko:

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 16:11:22
I found it!! Okay okay it was Shakespeare, not George Washington...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/shivashira/2008-07-25-necro.gif


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:12:36
Caption this:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.d2b2e46992a445e0a763b70302cbcefb.presidential_debate_tnts150.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:12:49
Quote by Raine:

Damn I have missed OUR attack dog... I am so glad Joe is back on the trail.




Speaking of attack dogs, I came to the conclusion that Palin is not a pit bull, she is a bichon. Small (minded) yappy and snippy.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2008 16:14:21
Today's walking music



Blue World - The Moody Blues

California Girls - The Beach Boys

Chicago/We Can Change the World - Graham Nash

Cinnamon Girl - Neil Young/Crazy Horse

Club at the End of the Street - Elton John

Come Go With Me - Del Vikings


Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2008 16:15:42
Quote by Raine:

Caption this:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.d2b2e46992a445e0a763b70302cbcefb.presidential_debate_tnts150.jpg




I deleted it, I saw what I typed and shuddered.



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:16:04
Ok, Listening to Thom, I need a youbube of that moment.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 16:18:00
Quote by Scoopster:

I found it!! Okay okay it was Shakespeare, not George Washington...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v394/shivashira/2008-07-25-necro.gif






*snort* :rofl:



zombie humor :p



Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 16:19:51
It's just so funny to hear Thom Hartmann using the Grampa SImpson drops.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:22:21
Thom!!! Playing the grumpy old trol song!

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:24:29
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:24:49
Quote by Raine:

Caption this:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.d2b2e46992a445e0a763b70302cbcefb.presidential_debate_tnts150.jpg


Obama: "et tu, brutus?"

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:26:07
Quote by Mondobubba:



Speaking of attack dogs, I came to the conclusion that Palin is not a pit bull, she is a bichon. Small (minded) yappy and snippy.


wrong. Bichon Frises are not yappy nor snippy. They are great dogs (even if they ARE fru-fru).



Palin is Pomeranian.



Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:27:22
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


McCain: "I'm losing to THAT n*gg*r? I think I'm going to barf..."

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 16:27:40
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


"Utoh.. Can I have a break to change my Depends?"

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:32:31
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Speaking of attack dogs, I came to the conclusion that Palin is not a pit bull, she is a bichon. Small (minded) yappy and snippy.


wrong. Bichon Frises are not yappy nor snippy. They are great dogs (even if they ARE fru-fru).



Palin is Pomeranian.





I beg to differ. A neighbor has one. Yarkyarkyarkyarkyarkyark in high pitch bark.



I know she isn't a chihuahua cause they intense little dogs that know no fear.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 16:36:24
You want to see hatred? Click.



This is approved by John McCain...

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:41:56
Quote by Raine:

You want to see hatred? Click.



This is approved by John McCain...






"Celebrity status among the left..." I'm a lefty, I never heard of Ayers until this year. If anything he is moldering relic of the fabulous 60s.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:45:03
Quote by Mondobubba:





I beg to differ. A neighbor has one. Yarkyarkyarkyarkyarkyark in high pitch bark.



I know she isn't a chihuahua cause they intense little dogs that know no fear.


Your neighbor must have an unusual one. The AKC standard says they are a happy dog.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:45:11
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Speaking of attack dogs, I came to the conclusion that Palin is not a pit bull, she is a bichon. Small (minded) yappy and snippy.


wrong. Bichon Frises are not yappy nor snippy. They are great dogs (even if they ARE fru-fru).



Palin is Pomeranian.







How about a Yorkie or a Cairn terrier?

Even though terriers are my very favorite breed

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:48:57
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





I beg to differ. A neighbor has one. Yarkyarkyarkyarkyarkyark in high pitch bark.



I know she isn't a chihuahua cause they intense little dogs that know no fear.


Your neighbor must have an unusual one. The AKC standard says they are a happy dog.





The AKC standards say a lot of things Bobber. Like the exact way a dog should stand and how the ears are set. The AKC is kinda creepy if you ask me.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 16:50:09
The only small dog I tolerate...



http://www.marleykennels.com/BostonTerrier.jpg


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:51:10
Quote by Mondobubba:





The AKC standards say a lot of things Bobber. Like the exact way a dog should stand and how the ears are set. The AKC is kinda creepy if you ask me.


well.... yes. But they also offer a pretty fair description of what to expect from a specific dog breed.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 16:54:22
It's not as dramatic as it has been, but the Dow is inching ever lower today.



Down about 200 right now. (9,247)





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:54:23
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





The AKC standards say a lot of things Bobber. Like the exact way a dog should stand and how the ears are set. The AKC is kinda creepy if you ask me.


well.... yes. But they also offer a pretty fair description of what to expect from a specific dog breed.




Bobber are defending the east coast elitist that make up the AKC? Why do you hate Amurica?

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:54:53
Quote by TriSec:

The only small dog I tolerate...



http://www.marleykennels.com/BostonTerrier.jpg


sizeist!



:rofl:

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 16:55:37
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


"Wait for it...wait for it...ohhhh...

That was louder than I expected..."



- "That One"

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:56:12
Quote by Mondobubba:





Bobber are defending the east coast elitist that make up the AKC? Why do you hate Amurica?


Support the Afghan Hound!!



whoops!

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 16:56:43
All the images that have been added are slowing my computer down.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:57:06
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


Dr. Obama performs a colonoscopy...

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 16:58:23
Quote by livingonli:

All the images that have been added are slowing my computer down.


you can set the number of comments to display in your user options... that might help if you have it set for "All"...

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 16:58:24
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


Dr. Obama performs a colonoscopy...






*coughs from laughing to hard*



(Edit: Damn...I forgot)



- "That One"

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 16:59:23
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





Bobber are defending the east coast elitist that make up the AKC? Why do you hate Amurica?


Support the Afghan Hound!!



whoops!




There ya go! You know the AKC is well on their way to ruining the boarder collie don't you?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 17:00:48
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081008/i/r1261781237.jpg


Dr. Obama performs a colonoscopy...






"Relax Senator McCain there will be a slight discomfort."

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 17:02:12
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

The only small dog I tolerate...



http://www.marleykennels.com/BostonTerrier.jpg


sizeist!



:rofl:




Pointy headed north eastern elitist!

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 17:07:11
Funny thing... Obama speaking on the TV machine and suddenly the market is only down 50 points.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 17:09:41
BTW... Small trivial Point... One candidate wore a flag pin on stage last night.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 17:11:51
Quote by Mondobubba:



There ya go! You know the AKC is well on their way to ruining the boarder collie don't you?


Are they making it learn metric?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 17:17:22
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:



There ya go! You know the AKC is well on their way to ruining the boarder collie don't you?


Are they making it learn metric?




That and all the inbreeding.

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 17:17:53
In that picture of McCain, he does look like he's about to hurl.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 17:40:06
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.b467db3aff064065a7bcbabe0d26af13.presidential_debate_tnrl143.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 17:55:37
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.b467db3aff064065a7bcbabe0d26af13.presidential_debate_tnrl143.jpg




Crap, I can't hit him with this microphone!

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 17:59:15
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.b467db3aff064065a7bcbabe0d26af13.presidential_debate_tnrl143.jpg


"Must...Not...Strike...the...N****r"



(Bad racist joke)



- "That One"

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 18:03:48
Quote by Raine:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081008/capt.b467db3aff064065a7bcbabe0d26af13.presidential_debate_tnrl143.jpg


Obama: "....if I grab the micrphone out of your hand before you can whack the back of my hand, you owe me a dollar."

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 18:16:06
Now playing: "Afro Blue"/John Coltrane



http://www.teaandtatteredpages.com/img/smiley_beret.gif
<-- groupie

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 18:23:59
The headline is too wordy, but check this out via HuffPo.



Essentially, McCain has picked up an endorsement from the person that established the charitable board that Obama and Ayers sat together on.



Ummmm?





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 18:28:26
Just seen at McCain Palin Rally:



A sign that said:



Unborn babies for John McCain

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 18:31:52
Dead Soldiers for Barack Obama



F*ckers.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 18:33:36
Sarah Palin reminds me of the women who used to be on the "the Price is Right" with Bob barker.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 18:36:28
Is anyone watching this? Mehgan McCain looks literally, like she is ready to hurl.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/08/2008 18:41:38
Quote by TriSec:

The headline is too wordy, but check this out via HuffPo.



Essentially, McCain has picked up an endorsement from the person that established the charitable board that Obama and Ayers sat together on.



Ummmm?


Wow.. that just took away any positive spin of the Ayers issue against Obama, because the same bullshit guilt by association can be used as a counterpunch.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 18:48:18
At approx 2:25 John McCain said the following:



across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow PRISONERS.....





I am MORE than sure a youtube will be posted soon.

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 18:48:36
Quote by Raine:

Is anyone watching this? Mehgan McCain looks literally, like she is ready to hurl.




She's finally beginning to realize what a bitter, hateful man her husband is?





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 18:51:03
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:

Is anyone watching this? Mehgan McCain looks literally, like she is ready to hurl.




She's finally beginning to realize what a bitter, hateful man her husband is?



Oh no, you are thinking of Cindy (she looks drugged up on valium) Mehgan is GRamps daughter.



Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 19:03:27
Time to go head off to the salt mine again.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 19:06:04
Windows AzMan security will be the death of me...



/obscure job-related reference...

Comment by Grumpymann on 10/08/2008 19:11:22
[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn't think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.
David Brooks, yes THAT David Brooks.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 19:23:03
Quote by Raine:

At approx 2:25 John McCain said the following:



across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow PRISONERS.....





I am MORE than sure a youtube will be posted soon.




what was he talking about?



Comment by BobR on 10/08/2008 20:06:23
Quote by Grumpymann:

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn't think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.


David Brooks, yes THAT David Brooks.


That is absolutely right on the money. I have a coworker who referred to Palin as "the one in this race that ISN'T an 'ivy-leaguer'", as if that was a positive.



The Republicans have absolutely poisoned the well of intellect, disparaging the science related to global warming and demonizing colleges as "bastions of liberalism". I keep waiting for them to demand a "Conservative Arts" program to counter the traditional Liberal Arts degree.



They appoint heads of depts. based on the applicants' ideology (and strict adherence to same) rather than training, experience, or resumé. They view with suspicion anyone smarter than them, because intelligence intimidates them.



I hope an Obama presidency can restore a sense of education as goal rather than a liability.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 20:19:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

At approx 2:25 John McCain said the following:



across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow PRISONERS.....





I am MORE than sure a youtube will be posted soon.




what was he talking about?

his economic agenda.



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 20:23:22


Watch it (13 seconds long)





Edited to removed over nesting.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 20:26:35
okay that was weird - what's he know that we don't

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 20:29:45
Well Mala, we are all prisoners of the Bush/McCain economic policies of the past 8 years.



Seriously tho, I think that comment goes straight to his state of mind. under stress, his ptsd really kicks in, and it's like he is back in vietnam... just a ponderence.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2008 20:35:35
it could very well be - I'm afraid that the man is unfit to serve. He is in need of some help.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 20:48:51
MNRN! :coffee2:

If you see this, please go to your face book message crack. I responded.


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2008 20:52:23
Quote by Raine:

Well Mala, we are all prisoners of the Bush/McCain economic policies of the past 8 years.



Seriously tho, I think that comment goes straight to his state of mind. under stress, his ptsd really kicks in, and it's like he is back in vietnam... just a ponderence.








Not to bring up 9-11....



But you know me and the plane porn. Last night, I was skimming through my usual sites, and I ran across this video:







Anyway, the engines make the same sound as the 757s we saw on the video that morning. For some reason, that just set me off last night...palpitations, anxiety, panic, the whole 9 yards. (I'm better now.)



(BTW, for you conspiracy theorists, that video was shot from ground level. That's what it would have looked like from the Pentagon parking lot, not that cheesy stop-motion video that was released...)



Anyway.





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 20:58:32
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 21:14:13
I am voting for "that One" This song seemed to just fit right today...









Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2008 21:42:03
So is there a podcast available of last night's "debate"?

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 21:47:00
Quote by trojanrabbit:

So is there a podcast available of last night's "debate"?


I think KTLK is supposed to it, at least thats the impression that I got.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 21:48:59
Now the Foo Fighters... You know, it's getting to the point where John McCain will not be allowed to use ANY music...

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 21:54:59




Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2008 22:03:22
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

So is there a podcast available of last night's "debate"?


I think KTLK is supposed to it, at least thats the impression that I got.




If they do they're hiding it damn well.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 22:10:01
Quote by TriSec:

Now playing: "Afro Blue"/John Coltrane



http://www.teaandtatteredpages.com/img/smiley_beret.gif
<-- groupie




More of that longhair, liberhul elite, East coast, Ivy League, un-danceable, distonic soundtrack of commies! Why do you hate America so much Tri?

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 22:11:20
Quote by Raine:

Now the Foo Fighters... You know, it's getting to the point where John McCain will not be allowed to use ANY music...


Hey, there's still Pat Boone.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:07:21
If anyone can... turn on ABC.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:09:05
Barack is being interviewed by Charlie gibson, and it's great.



Barack basically said John MCCain didn't have the guts to bring up Ayers to his face last night.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 23:10:14
Quote by Raine:

If anyone can... turn on ABC.




So, my local news is on. I did see McCain, Palin and I guess the McCain spawn in the scenic Lihigh valley

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:11:00
Ok this part of the interview is over... he said more to come later.



<_< teasers.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 23:14:33
Quote by Raine:

Barack is being interviewed by Charlie gibson, and it's great.



Barack basically said John MCCain didn't have the guts to bring up Ayers to his face last night.




Damn! A throw down from Barak iffin if there ever was one.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:22:10
OH.MAH.Gawd.





And at least she knows that Spain is our ally. Right? right? Right?



Her name is sarah btw...



:thud:





Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:31:19
MORE :thud:.. Sarah Palin did an interview with Entertainment tonite?

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:32:57
Oh sorry... they are talking about her interview on Fauxooz. (gretta van sustern... )

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2008 23:34:20
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Barack is being interviewed by Charlie gibson, and it's great.



Barack basically said John MCCain didn't have the guts to bring up Ayers to his face last night.




Damn! A throw down from Barak iffin if there ever was one.


Too bad I wasn't off to see it. Than again my ABC station has the network news at 6:30 and Jeopardy at 7.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2008 23:34:44
OK... enough of that. I feel dirty. Clicks off the Entertainment tonite. :puke:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2008 23:37:42
Quote by Raine:

OH.MAH.Gawd.





And at least she knows that Spain is our ally. Right? right? Right?





Her name is sarah btw...



:thud:









That is the most disturbing video I have seen in a long time. :wacko:

Comment by Random on 10/08/2008 23:52:21
Quote by Raine:

OH.MAH.Gawd.





And at least she knows that Spain is our ally. Right? right? Right?



Her name is sarah btw...



:thud:







Uh...I'm not sure if the others around her know she's an idiot and are making fun of her...they're laughing a lot.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 00:03:07
Oh my God. A special ode to Sean Hannity by John Cleese. That is gonna be hilarious.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 00:26:10
zOMG....



Sarah is gonna drop the Puck at this saturday's Flyers game.



Philly... Union Town. Obama will be there... and



Can we get a body check???





This is a crowd that once booed SANTA CLAUS. Philly is rough... And the hockey mom thinks she is gonna wow the crowd?

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 00:31:00
Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh my God. A special ode to Sean Hannity by John Cleese. That is gonna be hilarious.


Alert mgm.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 00:37:33
Quote by Raine:

zOMG....



Sarah is gonna drop the Puck at this saturday's Flyers game.



Philly... Union Town. Obama will be there... and



Can we get a body check???





This is a crowd that once booed SANTA CLAUS. Philly is rough... And the hockey mom thinks she is gonna wow the crowd?


Since they are playing the Rangers, I will be working that game for MSG. Also, this weekend is the NHL Center Ice Free Preview so anyone can watch the game on digital cable or satellite.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 00:42:49
TriSec finds a maverick he can support...





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 00:48:20
Quote by Raine:

zOMG....



Sarah is gonna drop the Puck at this saturday's Flyers game.



Philly... Union Town. Obama will be there... and



Can we get a body check???





This is a crowd that once booed SANTA CLAUS. Philly is rough... And the hockey mom thinks she is gonna wow the crowd?




Yeah but when she bends over in a tight skirt an winks!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 00:50:36
:note to self Rio doesn't like to dance:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 00:52:35
Bobber if you are there, are some beer bottles thicker than others? The Kona Brewery ones seem heftier.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 00:56:33
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

zOMG....



Sarah is gonna drop the Puck at this saturday's Flyers game.



Philly... Union Town. Obama will be there... and



Can we get a body check???





This is a crowd that once booed SANTA CLAUS. Philly is rough... And the hockey mom thinks she is gonna wow the crowd?


Since they are playing the Rangers, I will be working that game for MSG. Also, this weekend is the NHL Center Ice Free Preview so anyone can watch the game on digital cable or satellite.


NOW THAT IS AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:D

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 00:56:41
:rofl: :rofl: Too funny!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 00:59:25
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh my God. A special ode to Sean Hannity by John Cleese. That is gonna be hilarious.


Alert mgm.
I am sure he watched it.



HIGH LAIR EEE US!!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 01:02:13
:spit: THe Caddy Shack explosion sinking a putt thing on Mythbusters. :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 01:03:38
Michelle Obamais on Larry King right now... I can watch the rerun of rach, right?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 01:07:46
Quote by Raine:

Michelle Obamais on Larry King right now... I can watch the rerun of rach, right?






Yeah. I will be doing the same. Unless I decide to go to bed. My noggin is throbbin'! :wacko:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/09/2008 01:12:01
Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 01:47:22
:rofl: Rach: Three hots and a cot???





OMG...

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 01:51:15
Quote by trojanrabbit:

The wingnuts are whining because Sarah's picture on the cover of Newsweek isn't retouched.


I saw the video earlier. So let me get this straight... they want her real and folksy and retouched?



Uhm... errr...



they are really unhinged about this one. Seriously.



What... are they scared that people might actually see her as a REAL human, instead of a tube of lipstck on the pig?

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 02:00:12
I love Kent Jones.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 02:04:36
Listenign to AC360...

there are only 2 things that aregoing to help this market.



1) electing Barack Obama ( it will create a global shift in group think)

2) having these mofo marched off to jail.





Everything else is just a lot of words. when no one is held accoutable,no one can see a solution, and without a solution, people still feel panicked.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2008 02:07:20
Suzie orman is scaring me.





Should I be glad that we live on cash?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2008 02:12:35
w00t! I gots me an email from the Duval 'Crats, I don't need to stream Thom any longer. He is on the radio mosheen locally. Sweet! Now we just need Ms Miller.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2008 02:42:57
TriSec is calling it a night. "It's a night." - Troop 61



We're off tomorrow, headed for the Topsfield Fair...





Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2008 04:47:04
Ah, I was able to get home from work early tonight.