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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 10/14/2008 10:48:41
Good Morning.
Today is our 2,036th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the Warron Terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4182
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4043
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3721
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3324
Since Election (1/31/05): 2744
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 611
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 376
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through: $562, 353, 250, 000.00
We're going to cross the aisle this morning and check in with a well-known right-wing tool. It's Uncle Pat...(don't cringe yet.) Despite his views, he does treat our own Dr. Maddow with a modicum of respect, so I'm willing to hear him out. Pat has penned an interesting column today that I must admit makes a whole lot of sense.
Of course, with the economy in a shambles, and just 3 weeks to go to the general election, it seems that Iraq has fallen off the front pages even more than usual. That hasn't stopped our troops from fighting and dying just about every day.
There's yet another story from a returning veteran who is voting for Obama...because he just doesn't see anything changing in Iraq.
Lastly this morning, re-posting verbatim from last week. If you are thinking about contributing to a veteran's charity for the holidays...now is the time to do it.
Today is our 2,036th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the Warron Terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4182
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4043
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3721
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3324
Since Election (1/31/05): 2744
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 611
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 376
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through: $562, 353, 250, 000.00
We're going to cross the aisle this morning and check in with a well-known right-wing tool. It's Uncle Pat...(don't cringe yet.) Despite his views, he does treat our own Dr. Maddow with a modicum of respect, so I'm willing to hear him out. Pat has penned an interesting column today that I must admit makes a whole lot of sense.
"Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers."
So Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon advised Herbert Hoover in the Great Crash of '29.
Hoover did. And the nation liquidated him – and the Republicans.
In the Crash of 2008, 40 percent of stock value has vanished, almost $9 trillion. Some $5 trillion in real estate value has disappeared. A recession looms with sweeping layoffs, unemployment compensation surging, and social welfare benefits soaring.
America's first trillion-dollar deficit is at hand.
In fiscal year 2008 the deficit was $438 billion.
With tax revenue sinking, we will add to this year's deficit the $200 to $300 billion needed to wipe the rotten paper off the books of Fannie and Freddie, the $700 billion (plus the $100 billion in add-ons and pork) for the Wall Street bailout, the $85 billion to bail out AIG, and $37 billion more now needed, the $25 billion for GM, Chrysler, and Ford, and the hundreds of billions Hank Paulson will need to buy corporate paper and bail out banks to stop the panic.
As Americans save nothing, where are the Feds going to get the money? Is the Fed going to print it and destroy the dollar and credit rating of the United States? Because the nations whose vaults are full of dollars and U.S. debt – China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf Arabs – are reluctant to lend us more. Sovereign wealth funds that plunged billions into U.S. banks have already been burned.
Uncle Sam's Visa card is about to be stamped "Canceled."
The budget is going to have to go under the knife. But what gets cut?
*snip*
It is the American Empire that is going to be liquidated.
Retrenchment has begun with Bush's backing away from confrontations with Axis-of-Evil charter members Iran and North Korea over their nuclear programs, and will likely continue with a negotiated peace in Afghanistan. Gen. Petraeus and Secretary Gates are already talking "reconciliation" with the Taliban.
We no longer live in Eisenhower or Reagan's America. Even the post-Cold War world of George H. W. Bush, where America was a global hegemon, is history. In both relative and real terms, the U.S.A. is a diminished power.
*snip*
The American Empire has become a vast extravagance.
With U.S. markets crashing and wealth vanishing, what are we doing with 750 bases and troops in over 100 countries?
With a recession of unknown depth and duration looming, why keep borrowing billions from rich Arabs to defend rich Europeans, or billions from China and Japan to hand out in Millennium Challenge Grants to Tanzania and Burkina Faso?
America needs a bottom-up review of all strategic commitments dating to a Cold War now over for 20 years.
Is it essential to keep 30,000 troops in a South Korea with twice the population and 40 times the wealth of the North? Why are McCain and Obama offering NATO memberships, i.e., war guarantees against Russia, to a Georgia run by a hothead like Mikheil Saakashvili, and a Ukraine, millions of whose people prefer their kinship to Russia to an alliance with us?
We must put "country first," says John McCain.
Right you are, Senator. Time to look out for America first.
Of course, with the economy in a shambles, and just 3 weeks to go to the general election, it seems that Iraq has fallen off the front pages even more than usual. That hasn't stopped our troops from fighting and dying just about every day.
There's yet another story from a returning veteran who is voting for Obama...because he just doesn't see anything changing in Iraq.
Tom Bodak saw enough during a seven-month hitch in Iraq to realize at least one thing — he did not know what our soldiers were accomplishing there by fighting and dying.
"I don't think we're there for any reason, really," said Bodak, an Orland Park resident who returned from Iraq in January.
"I don't see any benefit," he said. "A lot of my friends have the same opinion."
One of Bodak's friends is unable to share his opinion on the war in which they both served, because he was killed by a roadside bomb.
The man was one of four in Bodak's company of military policeman to lose his life in such a manner in the seven months Bodak served in Iraq. His death is a big reason Bodak did not remain on active duty.
"If it wasn't for that, I'd probably have stayed in," said Bodak, who is now in the Army Reserves.
But the Chicago native may actually be going back in after all. It might be the best way for him and his family to make ends meet.
Supporting his family
Bodak had initially joined the reserves before going on active duty and eventually heading to Iraq.
He served as a medic attached to his company of military police and is now taking classes at Morraine Valley Community College full-time to maximize his income from the GI Bill; working full-time in security for a casino; and helping to take care of his 2-year-old daughter, Charlotte, with his wife, Sarah.
Sarah, also works, as a certified nursing assistant, and takes nursing classes at Morraine Valley.
While he would prefer to remain stateside and pursue his education and career as a physician while in the reserves, the reality of dollars and hours may lead Bodak back to the Middle East.
"I'd rather do it out here," he said. "(But) it's just too much working at night, going to school during the day, watching my daughter."
Not playing fair
While in the military police unit, Bodak and his fellow soldiers would visit Iraqi police stations and accompany them on missions. He said some Iraqi police were bought off by insurgents. Others were coerced into assisting enemy, he said, after their families had been kidnapped and threatened with death.
"We didn't really know what the cases behind them are," Bodak said. "We just know we caught them (collaborating with insurgents).
"They definitely don't play fair," he said of the enemy.
And of our Iraqi allies, he said, "There's a lot of corruption there."
There's also a lot of danger, seemingly at every turn.
Once, while escorting an interpreter to a meeting of political leaders, Bodak said an explosive "suicide vest" was found in a restroom garbage can next to the venue.
"Somebody was just going to go in the bathroom and put it on and walk up," he said.
Should we stay or go?
Bodak believes the withdrawal of American troops will lead to the deterioration of order in Iraq. But he is not convinced a military presence will assure stability either.
"Whoever does take over, I think they'll just try to kill them anyway," Bodak said of the possibility of a successful transition to a self-sufficient Iraq. He also questioned the progress made in rooting out the enemy.
"I honestly don't think that much is going on," he said. "They say they're getting rid of terrorists, but they're still over there."
Bodak's experiences cemented his choice in the coming election.
"I'm voting for Obama because he wants to leave quickly," he said. "I didn't see anything changing enough while I was there to stay there."
Lastly this morning, re-posting verbatim from last week. If you are thinking about contributing to a veteran's charity for the holidays...now is the time to do it.
...as we near the holidays, I want everyone to start thinking about veteran's charities....there are thousands of troops stationed far from home that will be spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hannukah, and Kwanzaa away from their families, and a little bit of comfort from home would do wonders for their morale. Now is the time to start thinking about doing something, so things reach the troops in time.
Operation USO care package
Any Soldier
Give to the troops
Charity list at "Op-For"
Charity list at IAVA
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 12:16:50
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 12:16:50
Morning. :hug:
Heard the "Ayers" ad on the radio this morning. Probably one of the ugliest politcal ads I've ever heard.
Heard the "Ayers" ad on the radio this morning. Probably one of the ugliest politcal ads I've ever heard.
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 12:21:16
Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 12:21:16
Todays the fourth of july
Another june has gone by
And when they light up our town I just think
What a waste of gunpowder and sky
Im certain that I am alone
In harbouring thoughts of our home
Its one of my faults that I cant quell my past
I ought to have gotten it gone
Oh, baby, I wonder -
If when you are older -
Someday-
Youll wake up
And say, my god, I should have told her -
What would it take?
But now here I am and the worlds gotten colder
And shes got the river down which I sold her.
So thats todays memory lane
With all the pathos and pain
Another chapter in a book where the chapters are endless
And theyre always the same
A verse, then a verse, and refrain
Oh, baby, I wonder -
If when you are older -
Someday-
Youll wake up
And say, my god, I should have told her -
What would it take?
But now here I am and the worlds gotten colder
And shes got the river down which I sold her
Aimee Mann
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/14/2008 12:23:41
TriSec on 10/14/2008 12:23:41
This offensive bit of Nazi Propaganda has been swirling around New England...
NH is a swing state this year, so they're going full-bore.
NH is a swing state this year, so they're going full-bore.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 12:28:30
Yeah I saw it this morning.
I still can't eat.
Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 12:28:30
Quote by TriSec:
This offensive bit of Nazi Propaganda has been swirling around New England...
NH is a swing state this year, so they're going full-bore.
Yeah I saw it this morning.
I still can't eat.
Comment by 
Random on 10/14/2008 12:59:50
Not only is that ad schizophrenic, but I though Liberals were Regulators, you know, large government kind of people. I mean, The Right's been attacking the left over regulations for nearly 30 years, and now when deregulation bites us in the ass, the blame the guys saying it would bite us in the ass.
Jesus H Christ.r
Random on 10/14/2008 12:59:50
Quote by TriSec:
This offensive bit of Nazi Propaganda has been swirling around New England...
NH is a swing state this year, so they're going full-bore.
Not only is that ad schizophrenic, but I though Liberals were Regulators, you know, large government kind of people. I mean, The Right's been attacking the left over regulations for nearly 30 years, and now when deregulation bites us in the ass, the blame the guys saying it would bite us in the ass.
Jesus H Christ.r
Comment by 
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 13:04:54
It's schizophrenic because it is not paid for entirely by the McCain campaign (read the fine print) - the RNC chipped in -- therefore, campaign finance rules require a "higher" standard - ie - an "issues" ad
Mornin'!
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 13:04:54
Quote by Random:
Not only is that ad schizophrenic, but I though Liberals were Regulators, you know, large government kind of people. I mean, The Right's been attacking the left over regulations for nearly 30 years, and now when deregulation bites us in the ass, the blame the guys saying it would bite us in the ass.
Jesus H Christ.r
It's schizophrenic because it is not paid for entirely by the McCain campaign (read the fine print) - the RNC chipped in -- therefore, campaign finance rules require a "higher" standard - ie - an "issues" ad
Mornin'!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:10:04
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:10:04
Steph was born in DC? She joins a small but select group :D
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:10:21
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:10:21
I love that song :dance:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:11:03
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:11:03
Bet she was born Columbia Hospital for Women.
Comment by 
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:11:36
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:11:36
Good Morning. :coffee:
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 13:12:35
Random on 10/14/2008 13:12:35
Well, more proof Dick Morris is an idiot.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 13:13:28
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 13:13:28
Or was it Bill Kristoff? -- Raine :hug:
SMS reading 4F??? -
SMS reading 4F??? -
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 13:15:28
Well, I know why it's schizophrenic, doesn't change the fact that it is. It's ineffective if it confuses it's audience.
Random on 10/14/2008 13:15:28
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Random:
Not only is that ad schizophrenic, but I though Liberals were Regulators, you know, large government kind of people. I mean, The Right's been attacking the left over regulations for nearly 30 years, and now when deregulation bites us in the ass, the blame the guys saying it would bite us in the ass.
Jesus H Christ.r
It's schizophrenic because it is not paid for entirely by the McCain campaign (read the fine print) - the RNC chipped in -- therefore, campaign finance rules require a "higher" standard - ie - an "issues" ad
Mornin'!
Well, I know why it's schizophrenic, doesn't change the fact that it is. It's ineffective if it confuses it's audience.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:15:40
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:15:40
where'd ya get that map Random - I was just looking at electoral-votes.com and they don't have some of those states as blue
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 13:17:33
Maybe i should have explained more about the random shot at Dick Morris. That's Dick Morris's Map.
And even fivethirtyeight doesn't have some of those blues
Random on 10/14/2008 13:17:33
Quote by wickedpam:
where'd ya get that map Random - I was just looking at electoral-votes.com and they don't have some of those states as blue
Maybe i should have explained more about the random shot at Dick Morris. That's Dick Morris's Map.
And even fivethirtyeight doesn't have some of those blues
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:18:35
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:18:35
aahhh.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 13:18:48
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 13:18:48
Heya 4Fers :coffee:
Hope y'all's day is off to a great start - good news: the Bark Park is lighted and open until 11pm
Still no Guy LaFleur sightings :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Hope y'all's day is off to a great start - good news: the Bark Park is lighted and open until 11pm
Still no Guy LaFleur sightings :PCheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by 
MNRN on 10/14/2008 13:21:46
MNRN on 10/14/2008 13:21:46
yeah we've been seeing that one here too. They just suck.
Oh, good morning btw.
Oh, good morning btw.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 13:27:57
:spit:
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:27:57
Quote by Shane-O:
Or was it Bill Kristoff? -- Raine :hug:
SMS reading 4F??? -
:spit:
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 13:28:26
Posted to das Blog by moi last night.
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 13:28:26
Quote by TriSec:
This offensive bit of Nazi Propaganda has been swirling around New England...
NH is a swing state this year, so they're going full-bore.
Posted to das Blog by moi last night.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 13:33:35
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 13:33:35
BTW morning! Off to poll watcher training today. Should be fun!
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 13:36:24
Question number one you may have to change... just saying!
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:36:24
Quote by Random:
Pop...Pop...Pop
Random Link
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 13:46:08
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:46:08
John McCain attends an ACORN sponsored Rally:
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 13:51:15
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:51:15
Caller is right, many times those kind of signs are lying around for people to use at rallies... 
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 13:54:07
Raine on 10/14/2008 13:54:07
Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing:
Lift ev'ry voice and sing,
Till earth and heaven ring.
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise,
High as the list'ning skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.
Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chast'ning rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet,
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.
God of our weary years,
God of our silent tears,
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who has by Thy might,
Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,
Shadowed beneath thy hand,
May we forever stand,
True to our God,
True to our native land.
Yeah, that a TERRIBLE SCARY black person song. <_<
Till earth and heaven ring.
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise,
High as the list'ning skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.
Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chast'ning rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet,
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.
God of our weary years,
God of our silent tears,
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who has by Thy might,
Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,
Shadowed beneath thy hand,
May we forever stand,
True to our God,
True to our native land.
Yeah, that a TERRIBLE SCARY black person song. <_<
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:54:47
that was one of those things I noted in the Recount - how there was a big camper van full of costumes and signs so people could make a scene
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 13:54:47
Quote by Raine:
Caller is right, many times those kind of signs are lying around for people to use at rallies...
that was one of those things I noted in the Recount - how there was a big camper van full of costumes and signs so people could make a scene
Comment by 
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:00:33
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:00:33
morning folks... 
good blog this morning Tri...
good blog this morning Tri...
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:03:56
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:03:56
Morning folks! :coffee2:
Just anotherMondayTuesday.. was late to work, had to deal with a mouth-foaming wingnut cab driver and his misguided ramblings about Bill Ayers and Pelosi/Obama/Reid planning to raise his taxes, and now that I'm finally here our contact database is on a bender so I can barely do any work.
Can I just go home now and give in to Big Sleep?
Just another
Can I just go home now and give in to Big Sleep?
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 14:04:50
Raine on 10/14/2008 14:04:50
yesterday, in case anyone noticed, sarah was wearing a Polar Bear Pin... She has worn it before. I found it odd...
Well take a look at this link.
Coincidence?
Well take a look at this link.
Coincidence?
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:07:40
Good catch!!
I wonder if she knows they're going to lose, and is trying to position herself as the next president of an independent Alaska?...
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:07:40
Quote by Raine:
yesterday, in case anyone noticed, sarah was wearing a Polar Bear Pin... She has worn it before. I found it odd...
Well take a look at this link.
Coincidence?
Good catch!!
I wonder if she knows they're going to lose, and is trying to position herself as the next president of an independent Alaska?...
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:08:04
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:08:04
Jim :clap:
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:18:22
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:18:22
Good morning everyone. 
And don't forget, today is Election Day up north in Canada. Will Bushbot Stephen Harper be able to gain his majority or will he have to settle for another minority government? At least the polls indicate that the Tories have dropped 10 percent in the poll and the Liberals haven't really budged at all indicating a shoot up in support for the NDP. Of course since Canada is first past the post that NDP support has never translated to a large number of seats in the House of Commons. Since most issues I identify more with the Social Democratic NDP party I would love to see a Tory defeat to a possible Liberal/NDP coalition government.
And don't forget, today is Election Day up north in Canada. Will Bushbot Stephen Harper be able to gain his majority or will he have to settle for another minority government? At least the polls indicate that the Tories have dropped 10 percent in the poll and the Liberals haven't really budged at all indicating a shoot up in support for the NDP. Of course since Canada is first past the post that NDP support has never translated to a large number of seats in the House of Commons. Since most issues I identify more with the Social Democratic NDP party I would love to see a Tory defeat to a possible Liberal/NDP coalition government.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:19:12
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:19:12
Tina Fey is brilliant. Maybe not in the political sense. But funny is smart.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 14:19:29
Grumpymann on 10/14/2008 14:19:29
My rights do not flow from Vets!
There for they deserve NO THANKS for that!
They deserve thank for the service to the country.
There for they deserve NO THANKS for that!
They deserve thank for the service to the country.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 14:19:52
I haven't gotten any requests for any other blogs. *innocent*
Random on 10/14/2008 14:19:52
Quote by Raine:Question number one you may have to change... just saying!Quote by Random:
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I haven't gotten any requests for any other blogs. *innocent*
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 14:21:31
Raine on 10/14/2008 14:21:31
on hold...
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 14:22:33
Random on 10/14/2008 14:22:33
Okay, the funniest thing about Palin tellin off her supporters. Is (that's an audiocon, right?) coming in and telling her they just want her louder she says (you can hear it), "I knew that."
So, if we take her on her word, she's yelling at her own supporters...And she knew they were supporters?
So, if we take her on her word, she's yelling at her own supporters...And she knew they were supporters?
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:27:07
Wah! -- I wanna hear Ms. Raine....
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:27:07
Quote by Raine:
on hold...
Wah! -- I wanna hear Ms. Raine....
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:27:37
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:27:37
Do McCain, Palin, and their supporters actually live in a parallel universe where their b.s. is reality. Maybe like the evil mirror universe in Star Trek.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:28:50
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 14:28:50
Mission from "Todd"
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 14:29:04
Will Palin get that little gotee?
Random on 10/14/2008 14:29:04
Quote by livingonli:
Do McCain, Palin, and their supporters actually live in a parallel universe where their b.s. is reality. Maybe like the evil mirror universe in Star Trek.
Will Palin get that little gotee?
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:31:12
Nah, the republicans are Ferengi; interested only in money and whatever it takes to get more.
TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:31:12
Quote by livingonli:
Do McCain, Palin, and their supporters actually live in a parallel universe where their b.s. is reality. Maybe like the evil mirror universe in Star Trek.
Nah, the republicans are Ferengi; interested only in money and whatever it takes to get more.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:32:54
I think their Dick Morris has one.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:32:54
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Do McCain, Palin, and their supporters actually live in a parallel universe where their b.s. is reality. Maybe like the evil mirror universe in Star Trek.
Will Palin get that little gotee?
I think their Dick Morris has one.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:34:09
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:34:09
I guarantee this will get a LOT of play over the next 3 weeks: Dem congressman paid off his mistress
Comment by Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:35:01
Allons-y NDP!
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:35:01
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.
And don't forget, today is Election Day up north in Canada. Will Bushbot Stephen Harper be able to gain his majority or will he have to settle for another minority government? At least the polls indicate that the Tories have dropped 10 percent in the poll and the Liberals haven't really budged at all indicating a shoot up in support for the NDP. Of course since Canada is first past the post that NDP support has never translated to a large number of seats in the House of Commons. Since most issues I identify more with the Social Democratic NDP party I would love to see a Tory defeat to a possible Liberal/NDP coalition government.
Allons-y NDP!
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:35:16
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:35:16
XTC! :banana:
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 14:36:02
And yet, Vitter and Craig, still in office.
Raine on 10/14/2008 14:36:02
Quote by BobR:
I guarantee this will get a LOT of play over the next 3 weeks: Dem congressman paid off his mistress
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:37:47
TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:37:47
aigh! My Stream!
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:39:39
Free the Maritimes!
Secession Now!
No Canada!
(or is that too Quebecois of me?)
TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:39:39
Free the Maritimes!
Secession Now!
No Canada!
(or is that too Quebecois of me?)
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:42:01
Because the GOP are hypocrites, they only condemn the sins of their opponents. It's OK if you're a Republican. I would certainly make attack ads pointing out Republican hypocrisy.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:42:01
Quote by Raine:And yet, Vitter and Craig, still in office.Quote by BobR:
I guarantee this will get a LOT of play over the next 3 weeks: Dem congressman paid off his mistress
Because the GOP are hypocrites, they only condemn the sins of their opponents. It's OK if you're a Republican. I would certainly make attack ads pointing out Republican hypocrisy.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:44:03
Oui, M. Trisec. Vouz est Quebecois.
These days in Quebec, opinion polls have shown a huge drop in support for independence which has also hurt the Bloc Quebecois in recent elections.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:44:03
Quote by TriSec:
Free the Maritimes!
Secession Now!
No Canada!
(or is that too Quebecois of me?)
Oui, M. Trisec. Vouz est Quebecois.
These days in Quebec, opinion polls have shown a huge drop in support for independence which has also hurt the Bloc Quebecois in recent elections.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 14:44:34
Are you not able to listen this morning?
Raine on 10/14/2008 14:44:34
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Raine:
on hold...
Wah! -- I wanna hear Ms. Raine....
Are you not able to listen this morning?
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:48:57
TriSec on 10/14/2008 14:48:57
Campaign ad:
cue footage of George Bush doing stupid stuff. Intersperse with footage of stuff blowing up in Iraq and whatever minimal footage of dead or wounded troops we can find.
Voiceover:
This is the most important election in American history. If you're still undecided at this time, then you're just too fucking lazy to give a damn. Pick up a fucking newspaper, you retard. Do us all a favor and stay home on November 4; voting with your gut sure worked out well last time, didn't it?
Cue US flag waving over the rubble of 9-11
If you still believe Barack Obama is a terrorist, then fuck you. Go and live in your warped fantasy world where everything Bush does is right. We know the truth, and you're just too damn stupid.
Fade to black
"I'm the TriSec, and I approve this message, because Republicans suck ass."
cue footage of George Bush doing stupid stuff. Intersperse with footage of stuff blowing up in Iraq and whatever minimal footage of dead or wounded troops we can find.
Voiceover:
This is the most important election in American history. If you're still undecided at this time, then you're just too fucking lazy to give a damn. Pick up a fucking newspaper, you retard. Do us all a favor and stay home on November 4; voting with your gut sure worked out well last time, didn't it?
Cue US flag waving over the rubble of 9-11
If you still believe Barack Obama is a terrorist, then fuck you. Go and live in your warped fantasy world where everything Bush does is right. We know the truth, and you're just too damn stupid.
Fade to black
"I'm the TriSec, and I approve this message, because Republicans suck ass."
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:49:00
livingonli on 10/14/2008 14:49:00
Raine. 
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:49:03
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:49:03
Raine!
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 14:49:13
Raine on 10/14/2008 14:49:13
Done!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:49:52
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:49:52
Yes it did Chris.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:50:03
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:50:03
Raine with the 
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:51:15
:rofl:
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:51:15
Quote by TriSec:
Campaign ad:
cue footage of George Bush doing stupid stuff. Intersperse with footage of stuff blowing up in Iraq and whatever minimal footage of dead or wounded troops we can find.
Voiceover:
This is the most important election in American history. If you're still undecided at this time, then you're just too fucking lazy to give a damn. Pick up a fucking newspaper, you retard. Do us all a favor and stay home on November 4; voting with your gut sure worked out well last time, didn't it?
Cue US flag waving over the rubble of 9-11
If you still believe Barack Obama is a terrorist, then fuck you. Go and live in your warped fantasy world where everything Bush does is right. We know the truth, and you're just too damn stupid.
Fade to black
"I'm the TriSec, and I approve this message, because Republicans suck ass."
:rofl:
Comment by Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:52:13
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 14:52:13
Did anyone see this yesterday?! I was so glued to it that I had to stop cleaning/winterizing the house!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:56:57
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:56:57
I think Darryl and I have seen the same cars.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:57:24
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 14:57:24
Um - Steph Manassas is still the sticks when it comes to No.Va.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 14:58:33
BobR on 10/14/2008 14:58:33
Okay TriSec, here's MY idea for an effective ad:
Black screen fades in these words: "Think you've had a bad day?"
Fade to out-of-focus view of a bathroom sink. Slow pan to hand holding a pregnancy test. The test shows positive. The hand begins to shake, and the test falls out of the hand.
Cut to extreme close up of test hitting the floor and bouncing in slow motion.
Cut to words: "Sarah Palin opposes all abortion, even in cases of rape and/or incest"
Cut to bathroom mirror with reflection of terrified teenage girl.
Sound of loud banging on the door. Girls head snaps towards door, even more terrified.
Voice of angry gruff man: "What're yew doin' in there?? Come on out - Daddy needs some lovin'"
Fade to words while sound of banging on door continues: "Some freedoms are just too important. Vote Democrat"
Black screen fades in these words: "Think you've had a bad day?"
Fade to out-of-focus view of a bathroom sink. Slow pan to hand holding a pregnancy test. The test shows positive. The hand begins to shake, and the test falls out of the hand.
Cut to extreme close up of test hitting the floor and bouncing in slow motion.
Cut to words: "Sarah Palin opposes all abortion, even in cases of rape and/or incest"
Cut to bathroom mirror with reflection of terrified teenage girl.
Sound of loud banging on the door. Girls head snaps towards door, even more terrified.
Voice of angry gruff man: "What're yew doin' in there?? Come on out - Daddy needs some lovin'"
Fade to words while sound of banging on door continues: "Some freedoms are just too important. Vote Democrat"
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:09:54
velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:09:54
Morning all. I'm and feeling better. walked past my radio juuuuust in time!! RAINE!! :clap:
Hey, did anyone catch this bit of humor: seems Rethugs are scrubbing the word "republican" from their websites, candidates posters, etc! :lol:
embarressed to be a repub!
Hey, did anyone catch this bit of humor: seems Rethugs are scrubbing the word "republican" from their websites, candidates posters, etc! :lol:
embarressed to be a repub!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 15:11:21
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 15:11:21
Stephs built her home of boxes of wine
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 15:13:45
Again.
Random on 10/14/2008 15:13:45
Quote by Random:
Okay, the funniest thing about Palin tellin off her supporters. Is (that's an audiocon, right?) coming in and telling her they just want her louder she says (you can hear it), "I knew that."
So, if we take her on her word, she's yelling at her own supporters...And she knew they were supporters?
Again.
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:14:21
Bob. Consider this ad being made. I'm going to get a camera (I sold mine, as you may recall) and make this!
:clap:
velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:14:21
Quote by BobR:
Okay TriSec, here's MY idea for an effective ad:
Black screen fades in these words: "Think you've had a bad day?"
Fade to out-of-focus view of a bathroom sink. Slow pan to hand holding a pregnancy test. The test shows positive. The hand begins to shake, and the test falls out of the hand.
Cut to extreme close up of test hitting the floor and bouncing in slow motion.
Cut to words: "Sarah Palin opposes all abortion, even in cases of rape and/or incest"
Cut to bathroom mirror with reflection of terrified teenage girl.
Sound of loud banging on the door. Girls head snaps towards door, even more terrified.
Voice of angry gruff man: "What're yew doin' in there?? Come on out - Daddy needs some lovin'"
Fade to words while sound of banging on door continues: "Some freedoms are just too important. Vote Democrat"
Bob. Consider this ad being made. I'm going to get a camera (I sold mine, as you may recall) and make this!
:clap:
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:17:17
Last night on KO, I swear I heard them yelling Sarah. I wanna see video of what you are talking about Random. becuase I am inclined to agree with you. the video I saw, She paused for a moment and did NOT look like she didn't know what she heard. It made the whole exchange even more bizzarre.
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:17:17
Quote by Random:Quote by Random:
Okay, the funniest thing about Palin tellin off her supporters. Is (that's an audiocon, right?) coming in and telling her they just want her louder she says (you can hear it), "I knew that."
So, if we take her on her word, she's yelling at her own supporters...And she knew they were supporters?
Again.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/14/2008 15:17:35
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 15:17:35
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:17:45
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:17:45
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:19:40
If you need voice over... I volunteer. Seriously.
That ad is
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:19:40
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by BobR:
Okay TriSec, here's MY idea for an effective ad:
Black screen fades in these words: "Think you've had a bad day?"
Fade to out-of-focus view of a bathroom sink. Slow pan to hand holding a pregnancy test. The test shows positive. The hand begins to shake, and the test falls out of the hand.
Cut to extreme close up of test hitting the floor and bouncing in slow motion.
Cut to words: "Sarah Palin opposes all abortion, even in cases of rape and/or incest"
Cut to bathroom mirror with reflection of terrified teenage girl.
Sound of loud banging on the door. Girls head snaps towards door, even more terrified.
Voice of angry gruff man: "What're yew doin' in there?? Come on out - Daddy needs some lovin'"
Fade to words while sound of banging on door continues: "Some freedoms are just too important. Vote Democrat"
Bob. Consider this ad being made. I'm going to get a camera (I sold mine, as you may recall) and make this!
:clap:
That ad is
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 15:21:08
Too funny - Saxby Chambliss (a Bush suck-up) is virtually tied with challenger Jim Martin. Interestingly, neither one has their party affiliation listed on their websites...
BobR on 10/14/2008 15:21:08
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all. I'm and feeling better. walked past my radio juuuuust in time!! RAINE!! :clap:
Hey, did anyone catch this bit of humor: seems Rethugs are scrubbing the word "republican" from their websites, candidates posters, etc! :lol:
embarressed to be a repub!
Too funny - Saxby Chambliss (a Bush suck-up) is virtually tied with challenger Jim Martin. Interestingly, neither one has their party affiliation listed on their websites...
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:22:04
:rofl:
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:22:04
Quote by Shane-O:
:rofl:
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 15:22:23
BobR on 10/14/2008 15:22:23
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:29:08
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:29:08
Tommy Thompson.
Like Jimmy James and Johnny Johnson.
Name that show! -- Anyone...? ;)
Like Jimmy James and Johnny Johnson.
Name that show! -- Anyone...? ;)
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:30:26
Dang nab it,
I am stuck out here on the ref desk and am apparently missing all the fun :P
Catch up with ya later via the StephCast, Raine-O :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:30:26
Quote by wickedpam:
Raine!
Dang nab it,
I am stuck out here on the ref desk and am apparently missing all the fun :P
Catch up with ya later via the StephCast, Raine-O :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:31:10
Oh dear - I grabbed all 12 of Jim's Squeezy quotes from VoiceDeity.com - mixed over the porn music - eep!
Shane-O on 10/14/2008 15:31:10
Quote by Raine:Quote by Shane-O:
:rofl:
Oh dear - I grabbed all 12 of Jim's Squeezy quotes from VoiceDeity.com - mixed over the porn music - eep!
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 15:33:12
Ah, the shot on Susan Collins (R-ME) is unfair. When we were looking at re-locating, she would have been my senator. I read through her website and decided I could live with it. In her favor, she's an old-school Republican, never did she fall into lockstep with the neocons. She strikes me as a person we could work with...
Challenger Jeff Beatty (R-MA, against Sen. Kerry) has one of those bland, non-affiliated websites. But then the GOP in this state is so retarded, he's running as a write-in. They didn't gather enough signatures to get their chosen candidate (John Ogonowski, brother of 9-11 pilot Jim) on the ballot, and he dropped out.
TriSec on 10/14/2008 15:33:12
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all. I'm and feeling better. walked past my radio juuuuust in time!! RAINE!! :clap:
Hey, did anyone catch this bit of humor: seems Rethugs are scrubbing the word "republican" from their websites, candidates posters, etc! :lol:
embarressed to be a repub!
Ah, the shot on Susan Collins (R-ME) is unfair. When we were looking at re-locating, she would have been my senator. I read through her website and decided I could live with it. In her favor, she's an old-school Republican, never did she fall into lockstep with the neocons. She strikes me as a person we could work with...
Challenger Jeff Beatty (R-MA, against Sen. Kerry) has one of those bland, non-affiliated websites. But then the GOP in this state is so retarded, he's running as a write-in. They didn't gather enough signatures to get their chosen candidate (John Ogonowski, brother of 9-11 pilot Jim) on the ballot, and he dropped out.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:33:41
She gently used a scalpel knife, fileted him sweetly and then kindly fed him to the fish.
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:33:41
Quote by Scoopster:
Did anyone see this yesterday?! I was so glued to it that I had to stop cleaning/winterizing the house!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 15:34:51
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 15:34:51
Shelagh!
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 15:34:57
Olbermann last night, Looks like Todd leans in, and you can hear her say "Yeah, I know."
Random on 10/14/2008 15:34:57
Quote by Raine:Last night on KO, I swear I heard them yelling Sarah. I wanna see video of what you are talking about Random. becuase I am inclined to agree with you. the video I saw, She paused for a moment and did NOT look like she didn't know what she heard. It made the whole exchange even more bizzarre.Quote by Random:Quote by Random:
Okay, the funniest thing about Palin tellin off her supporters. Is (that's an audiocon, right?) coming in and telling her they just want her louder she says (you can hear it), "I knew that."
So, if we take her on her word, she's yelling at her own supporters...And she knew they were supporters?
Again.
Olbermann last night, Looks like Todd leans in, and you can hear her say "Yeah, I know."
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 15:34:57
BobR on 10/14/2008 15:34:57
hey - is that "our" Shealagh?
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:35:06
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:35:06
Shelagh!
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:35:26
velveeta jones on 10/14/2008 15:35:26
Raine for VO, check! I have the PERFECT location to shoot the bathroom scene! Sadly, its in my old house. Dammit!
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 15:35:40
livingonli on 10/14/2008 15:35:40
Shelagh.
I hope she gets back on a computer soon.
I hope she gets back on a computer soon.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 15:36:35
Raine on 10/14/2008 15:36:35
Ahhh, Random I missed that as I was probably looking at Bobber in shock.
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:38:26
Damn,
Missed another one - this working for a living really sucks
mfaye
:gobama:
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:38:26
Quote by wickedpam:
Shelagh!
Damn,
Missed another one - this working for a living really sucks
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 15:38:58
Well, Countdown is online, i suggest you look at it...Tell me if I'm wrong. I was laughing for hours afterwards.
Random on 10/14/2008 15:38:58
Quote by Raine:
Ahhh, Random I missed that as I was probably looking at Bobber in shock.
Well, Countdown is online, i suggest you look at it...Tell me if I'm wrong. I was laughing for hours afterwards.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 15:41:28
Random on 10/14/2008 15:41:28
30 seconds in.
I swear it sounds like "Okay, I knew that"
Course it could be doin that, since she likes to drop of the damn Gs.
I swear it sounds like "Okay, I knew that"
Course it could be doin that, since she likes to drop of the damn Gs.
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:43:14
Again, revealing my ignorance, but what is a "VO"? I'm just wondering. Probably something obvious :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 15:43:14
Quote by velveeta jones:
Raine for VO, check! I have the PERFECT location to shoot the bathroom scene! Sadly, its in my old house. Dammit!
Again, revealing my ignorance, but what is a "VO"? I'm just wondering. Probably something obvious :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 16:02:21
Voice Over
BobR on 10/14/2008 16:02:21
Quote by m-hadley:
Again, revealing my ignorance, but what is a "VO"? I'm just wondering. Probably something obvious :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Voice Over
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:05:16
oof.
She said she 'Knew that" AFTER the Sarah chant?
That makes it even worse. Nice catch Random. She is kinda crazy. Any chant she is going to use as a way to give the "support the troops" mantra it seems.
That woman is scary crazy.
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:05:16
Quote by Random:
30 seconds in.
I swear it sounds like "Okay, I knew that"
Course it could be doin that, since she likes to drop of the damn Gs.
oof.
She said she 'Knew that" AFTER the Sarah chant?
That makes it even worse. Nice catch Random. She is kinda crazy. Any chant she is going to use as a way to give the "support the troops" mantra it seems.
That woman is scary crazy.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:07:03
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:07:03
Seems as tho Todd is "saying that's them agreeing with you, hon"
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:07:39
oh... and her saying "OK, I knew that."
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:07:39
Quote by Raine:
Seems as tho Todd is "saying that's them agreeing with you, hon"
oh... and her saying "OK, I knew that."
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 16:08:38
What BobR said.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 16:08:38
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by velveeta jones:
Raine for VO, check! I have the PERFECT location to shoot the bathroom scene! Sadly, its in my old house. Dammit!
Again, revealing my ignorance, but what is a "VO"? I'm just wondering. Probably something obvious :P
Cheers,
mfaye
What BobR said.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 16:09:51
It sounds to me like she says "OK, I'm doin' that"...
BobR on 10/14/2008 16:09:51
Quote by Raine:
oh... and her saying "OK, I knew that."
It sounds to me like she says "OK, I'm doin' that"...
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:09:57
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:09:57
I could be wrong... but CLEARLY I heard the "sarah" chant. How could she not hear it herself?
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:11:45
well if that is the case, (and that goes to Random mentioning her tendency to drop "g") Then why is she taking directions from Todd?
IS Todd her daddy? Why is Todd telling her to say or do things at a Rally?
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:11:45
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
oh... and her saying "OK, I knew that."
It sounds to me like she says "OK, I'm doin' that"...
IS Todd her daddy? Why is Todd telling her to say or do things at a Rally?
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:16:31
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:16:31
After playing that video many times, I can officially confirm one thing... my eardrums are bleeding.
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 16:22:49
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 16:22:49
More on Palin's pathetic record on Alaska Natives: Palin's Rural Adviser Quits Over Native Record
Nevermind that her husband claims to have some Native heritage - I guess Todd just doesn't care about "his people" either :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Nevermind that her husband claims to have some Native heritage - I guess Todd just doesn't care about "his people" either :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:26:23
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine and Shelagh. we get 3 4F'ers today.
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:26:23
Quote by livingonli:
Raine.
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine and Shelagh. we get 3 4F'ers today.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/14/2008 16:28:34
Scoopster on 10/14/2008 16:28:34
Moron names his child Sarah McCain Palin
...and he did it secretly without telling his wife too! I hope this guy has a good divorce lawyer.
...and he did it secretly without telling his wife too! I hope this guy has a good divorce lawyer.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 16:28:39
long-absent ShelaghC called in too
BobR on 10/14/2008 16:28:39
Quote by trojanrabbit:
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine we get 2 4F'ers today.
long-absent ShelaghC called in too
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:36:03
Yeah, I started scanning the posts further and saw her there, so I edited my earlier post.
Who knows when I'll get a chance to call in again. At least I didn't get the end of hour brush-off
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:36:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine we get 2 4F'ers today.
long-absent ShelaghC called in too
Yeah, I started scanning the posts further and saw her there, so I edited my earlier post.
Who knows when I'll get a chance to call in again. At least I didn't get the end of hour brush-off
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:38:19
And that was the subject of my call-in today. As soon as I read it I said "Hello, Rebekah"
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 16:38:19
Quote by Scoopster:
Moron names his child Sarah McCain Palin
...and he did it secretly without telling his wife too! I hope this guy has a good divorce lawyer.
And that was the subject of my call-in today. As soon as I read it I said "Hello, Rebekah"
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 16:51:58
(:30 you day?
Shane? can we get that bit? I am still trying to get used to Paul... I probably heard it and did not realize it was Trojan!
Raine on 10/14/2008 16:51:58
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine we get 2 4F'ers today.
long-absent ShelaghC called in too
(:30 you day?
Shane? can we get that bit? I am still trying to get used to Paul... I probably heard it and did not realize it was Trojan!
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 16:53:34
TriSec on 10/14/2008 16:53:34
[av-dork]
Happy Birthday to Supersonic Flight today!
[/av-dork]
Happy Birthday to Supersonic Flight today!
[/av-dork]
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:02:04
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:02:04
The scary part is I first thought that pictures was of Bush.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 17:02:51
Raine on 10/14/2008 17:02:51
HEy, when is McCAin going to announce his new economic plan? It's 1 o'clock... Waiting, waiting...
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 17:14:49
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 17:14:49
this guy is riducules 
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 17:15:30
Them's fighting words, liv. Bush couldn't carry Yeager's parachute.
TriSec on 10/14/2008 17:15:30
Quote by livingonli:
The scary part is I first thought that pictures was of Bush.
Them's fighting words, liv. Bush couldn't carry Yeager's parachute.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:17:35
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:17:35
Time to throw in some pitches for the NDP in the Canadian election;
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:18:28
Or even his jockstrap.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:18:28
Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
The scary part is I first thought that pictures was of Bush.
Them's fighting words, liv. Bush couldn't carry Yeager's parachute.
Or even his jockstrap.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 17:21:32
'cast downloaded, now listening.
I'm at 19:00 in the first hour. I tried to get in as Paul from Millis so you'd recognize me, but Rebekah said it had to be a major city. Was only able to get a warning out to the liveblog as I was so busy holding, trying to get ready for work and downloading some other stuff to the wife's player so she had something to listen to.
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 17:21:32
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
All right. Now I definitely can't wait to download the 'cast. I got in a bit after 9:30 and with Raine we get 2 4F'ers today.
long-absent ShelaghC called in too
(:30 you day?
Shane? can we get that bit? I am still trying to get used to Paul... I probably heard it and did not realize it was Trojan!
'cast downloaded, now listening.
I'm at 19:00 in the first hour. I tried to get in as Paul from Millis so you'd recognize me, but Rebekah said it had to be a major city. Was only able to get a warning out to the liveblog as I was so busy holding, trying to get ready for work and downloading some other stuff to the wife's player so she had something to listen to.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/14/2008 17:22:40
wickedpam on 10/14/2008 17:22:40
what's that song?
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:22:48
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:22:48
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 17:26:28
Random on 10/14/2008 17:26:28
Holy Shite.
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:29:01
Like we need further proof that Fox News is the shit pile of journalism.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:29:01
Quote by Random:
Holy Shite.
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
Like we need further proof that Fox News is the shit pile of journalism.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 17:40:20
Not even gonna guess?
*sighs*
Oh, and just watched the Maddow video. He really did compare Maddow's show to the Crazies yelling "Kill him"?
Look buddy, being humorous isn't a sign that it doesn't matter. You better know damn well that Jon Stewart and Colbert take it seriously, but their way of conveying thought and ideas is through humor and satire. It's exactly what SNL has done. There is a reason people actually get their news from Daily show and the Colbert Report.
Jackass.
Random on 10/14/2008 17:40:20
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
Holy Shite.
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
Like we need further proof that Fox News is the shit pile of journalism.
Not even gonna guess?
*sighs*
Oh, and just watched the Maddow video. He really did compare Maddow's show to the Crazies yelling "Kill him"?
Look buddy, being humorous isn't a sign that it doesn't matter. You better know damn well that Jon Stewart and Colbert take it seriously, but their way of conveying thought and ideas is through humor and satire. It's exactly what SNL has done. There is a reason people actually get their news from Daily show and the Colbert Report.
Jackass.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:43:05
livingonli on 10/14/2008 17:43:05
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 18:00:47
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 18:00:47
I just got back to my office and I thought I heard Thom say that John McCain "Just might pull it off" - Help! - that is not what I need to hear from the friendly radio, Say it ain't so 
Did I miss the context of Thom's comment - I need somebody to talk me down...
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Did I miss the context of Thom's comment - I need somebody to talk me down...Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:02:17
livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:02:17
The only way Grampy can win this election is if he steals it.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:08:51
livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:08:51
Musical interlude;
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 18:13:34
Sarah is wearing her Polar Bear Pin again today
Raine on 10/14/2008 18:13:34
Sarah is wearing her Polar Bear Pin again today
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 18:25:28
TriSec on 10/14/2008 18:25:28
I may have to add Ol' Blue Eyes to that maxim with Ellington....
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:43:25
I'm beginning to wish she had been eaten by a polar bear.
livingonli on 10/14/2008 18:43:25
Quote by Raine:
Sarah is wearing her Polar Bear Pin again today
I'm beginning to wish she had been eaten by a polar bear.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 19:11:12
BEARS!
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 19:11:12
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Sarah is wearing her Polar Bear Pin again today
I'm beginning to wish she had been eaten by a polar bear.
BEARS!
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 19:18:20
Raine on 10/14/2008 19:18:20
Correct me if I am wroong here, but I have noticed that they are using the Rocky Them now at Palin Rallies...
1) Didn't hillary use that theme as well?
And
2) Didn't we already discuss during the primaries that Rocky lost?
By the way, "Kill him" once again was shouted at a Palin Rally in Scranton today. It was of course before Sarah came out on stage, so it wasn't her fault, right?
What about the speaker BEFORE the arrival of der fascista?
1) Didn't hillary use that theme as well?
And
2) Didn't we already discuss during the primaries that Rocky lost?
By the way, "Kill him" once again was shouted at a Palin Rally in Scranton today. It was of course before Sarah came out on stage, so it wasn't her fault, right?
What about the speaker BEFORE the arrival of der fascista?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:18:36
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:18:36
What, I Mondo took away from the poll watcher orientation today:
1. Call your assigned lawyer.
2. No, really call him or her.
3. Seriously no kidding around call the lawyer, we have plenty to go around
4. CALL THE LAWYER!
1. Call your assigned lawyer.
2. No, really call him or her.
3. Seriously no kidding around call the lawyer, we have plenty to go around
4. CALL THE LAWYER!
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 19:18:52
I went looking for that poll and it appears they've changed the question. It now reads: "Which presidential candidate do you trust more to deliver on his latest economic promises?"
Of course - McCain is ahead...
BobR on 10/14/2008 19:18:52
Quote by Random:
Holy Shite.
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
I went looking for that poll and it appears they've changed the question. It now reads: "Which presidential candidate do you trust more to deliver on his latest economic promises?"
Of course - McCain is ahead...
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:23:23
:scans blog:
See when Tri swears it make things extra funny! Cause you don't swear that much.
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:23:23
Quote by TriSec:
Campaign ad:
cue footage of George Bush doing stupid stuff. Intersperse with footage of stuff blowing up in Iraq and whatever minimal footage of dead or wounded troops we can find.
Voiceover:
This is the most important election in American history. If you're still undecided at this time, then you're just too fucking lazy to give a damn. Pick up a fucking newspaper, you retard. Do us all a favor and stay home on November 4; voting with your gut sure worked out well last time, didn't it?
Cue US flag waving over the rubble of 9-11
If you still believe Barack Obama is a terrorist, then fuck you. Go and live in your warped fantasy world where everything Bush does is right. We know the truth, and you're just too damn stupid.
Fade to black
"I'm the TriSec, and I approve this message, because Republicans suck ass."
:scans blog:
See when Tri swears it make things extra funny! Cause you don't swear that much.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 19:29:37
Raine on 10/14/2008 19:29:37
Today in Scranton:
In the meantime, when 'boos' happen at obama gathering, Barack tells people not to boo, and guess what?
They stop.
1:25 p.m.
Chris Hackett addressed the increasingly feisty crowd as they await the arrival of Gov. Palin.
Each time the Republican candidate for the seat in the 10th Congressional District mentioned Barack Obama the crowd booed loudly.
One man screamed "kill him!"
Supporters have been noted shouting “kill him,” “terrorist,” “off with his head” and other equally incendiary terms about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. Others have directly suggested Mr. Obama is a Muslim, which he is not, or a traitor. Some comments even drew rebuke from Republican presidential nominee John McCain.
Other than the lone man, there were no other such outbursts.
In the meantime, when 'boos' happen at obama gathering, Barack tells people not to boo, and guess what?
They stop.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:32:25
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:32:25
David Frum called. Left him message. If you all want to call AEI here is the number: 202-862-5800 I went right to Frum's voice mail. His message includes his cell number. Not that I would ever condone a campaign of cell number harassment....
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 19:33:44
Get the comic Book! www.stealbackyourvote.org ----------------->
Sounds like they are doing the right thing there.
Raine on 10/14/2008 19:33:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
What, I Mondo took away from the poll watcher orientation today:
1. Call your assigned lawyer.
2. No, really call him or her.
3. Seriously no kidding around call the lawyer, we have plenty to go around
4. CALL THE LAWYER!
Sounds like they are doing the right thing there.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 19:40:15
No way!
Raine on 10/14/2008 19:40:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
David Frum called. Left him message. If you all want to call AEI here is the number: 202-862-5800 I went right to Frum's voice mail. His message includes his cell number. Not that I would ever condone a campaign of cell number harassment....
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:45:05
I told you earlier I was going to. I am very upset by his rudeness. He is invited on the show to discuss the GOP's intelligentsia jumping ship about Palin. So Frum takes Dr Maddow to task for her tone? HER TONE? When the base of his party is yelling death threats at rallies? :rage:
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 19:45:05
Quote by Raine:No way!Quote by Mondobubba:
David Frum called. Left him message. If you all want to call AEI here is the number: 202-862-5800 I went right to Frum's voice mail. His message includes his cell number. Not that I would ever condone a campaign of cell number harassment....
I told you earlier I was going to. I am very upset by his rudeness. He is invited on the show to discuss the GOP's intelligentsia jumping ship about Palin. So Frum takes Dr Maddow to task for her tone? HER TONE? When the base of his party is yelling death threats at rallies? :rage:
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:00:23
IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:00:23
David Frum is a fucking asshole and a snarky little weasel. Shit in your own yard when the team is down fuckwad.
Waiting for phone to finish charging. Don't fuck with Rachel fella.
Waiting for phone to finish charging. Don't fuck with Rachel fella.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:01:47
IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:01:47
Yikes. I think I've used my f-word quota for the year. 
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:03:27
IzzyBitz on 10/14/2008 20:03:27
Mr. Frum has lots of ideas for a show. Get one of your own. Oh, wait. You need a winning personality for these kinds of things.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 20:20:01
The best title for a show starring Mr. Frum has already been used:
The Biggest Loser :P
BobR on 10/14/2008 20:20:01
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Mr. Frum has lots of ideas for a show. Get one of your own. Oh, wait. You need a winning personality for these kinds of things.
The best title for a show starring Mr. Frum has already been used:
The Biggest Loser :P
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 20:31:08
pfff. we got plenty in inventory. That was a hellova rant tho!
Raine on 10/14/2008 20:31:08
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Yikes. I think I've used my f-word quota for the year.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 20:31:42
Well, to give the lovely troglodytes who managed to work the typewriter with the TeeVee Mosheen one it, voted no.
Random on 10/14/2008 20:31:42
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Holy Shite.
So Random was trolling around websites looking for polling numbers and maps that had swing states.
So The much dreaded reaching of Fox was immanent. So, i screw up the courage to ignore the bullshit and explore their politics site. And, to my surprise, no polls, no map, nothing. Hell, CNN and MSNBC had maps. Instead i found an interactive map for election night, which confused the hell out of me, since election night is three weeks away.
But that wasn't the most surprising of all...
Fox Poll:
"Does Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers raise questions about his ability to handle the economic crisis, as John McCain asserts?
Yes
No
"
Anyone want to guess which was the top answer?
I went looking for that poll and it appears they've changed the question. It now reads: "Which presidential candidate do you trust more to deliver on his latest economic promises?"
Of course - McCain is ahead...
Well, to give the lovely troglodytes who managed to work the typewriter with the TeeVee Mosheen one it, voted no.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 20:33:14
trojanrabbit on 10/14/2008 20:33:14
If Shane-O needs to know where the other bits are, Raine is at 29:36 of the 2nd hour and Shelagh is at 19:30 of the 3rd hour.
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 20:35:58
Raine on 10/14/2008 20:35:58
Now wait a minute... I just heard that John McCain is proposing that upon his orders the Dept of the treasury will be ordered to insure ALL (I repeat ALL) savings accounts for 6 months. How the hell is the FDIC going to be able to insure that? and how does he plan on paying for THAT?
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 20:36:15
Random on 10/14/2008 20:36:15
Random Music.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 20:40:14
Wow...Hm...Got video of it? Random was taking a nap.
Random on 10/14/2008 20:40:14
Quote by Raine:
Now wait a minute... I just heard that John McCain is proposing that upon his orders the Dept of the treasury will be ordered to insure ALL (I repeat ALL) savings accounts for 6 months. How the hell is the FDIC going to be able to insure that? and how does he plan on paying for THAT?
Wow...Hm...Got video of it? Random was taking a nap.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 20:50:04
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 20:50:04
My Call to the AEI.
Receptionist: Hello, American Enterprise Institute how may I direct your call?
Me: Yes, David Frum, please.
Receptionist: One moment.
Me: Thank you.
(Phone rings)
David Frum's voicemail: Hello you have reached David Frum. I'm not at my desk, please leave a message or call my cell phone at 202-xxx-xxxx.
Me: Yes, Mr Frum my name (redacted for privacy) I am calling about your appearance on Rachel Maddow's program. I felt that you were very rude by sandbagging her about her tone. If you would like to discuss this further my number is 904-XXX-XXXX. Thank you very much.
And scene!
Receptionist: Hello, American Enterprise Institute how may I direct your call?
Me: Yes, David Frum, please.
Receptionist: One moment.
Me: Thank you.
(Phone rings)
David Frum's voicemail: Hello you have reached David Frum. I'm not at my desk, please leave a message or call my cell phone at 202-xxx-xxxx.
Me: Yes, Mr Frum my name (redacted for privacy) I am calling about your appearance on Rachel Maddow's program. I felt that you were very rude by sandbagging her about her tone. If you would like to discuss this further my number is 904-XXX-XXXX. Thank you very much.
And scene!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 21:02:55
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 21:02:55
As much as it pains me, I do have to give AEI ups for having a real live receptionist answering the phone. I was fully expecting an automated attendant.
Comment by m-hadley on 10/14/2008 21:03:58
m-hadley on 10/14/2008 21:03:58
Looks like the Palin Hate Machine is at it again: Palin Rally: "Kill Him" Yelled Again Why can't she be charged with inciting violence? Or threatening a public official? or or something?
:modbat:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
BTB, Mondo you absolutely rock
I wish I had the cojones to call Frum, but I don't trust myself to remain civil :P
:modbat:
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
BTB, Mondo you absolutely rock
I wish I had the cojones to call Frum, but I don't trust myself to remain civil :P
Comment by Raine on 10/14/2008 21:14:56
I heard him say it on the radio news during Randi.
I would like some video of it myself.
Raine on 10/14/2008 21:14:56
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Now wait a minute... I just heard that John McCain is proposing that upon his orders the Dept of the treasury will be ordered to insure ALL (I repeat ALL) savings accounts for 6 months. How the hell is the FDIC going to be able to insure that? and how does he plan on paying for THAT?
Wow...Hm...Got video of it? Random was taking a nap.
I would like some video of it myself.
Comment by livingonli on 10/14/2008 22:33:57
livingonli on 10/14/2008 22:33:57
Headline News is running a story on Acorn right now which seems to be buying the GOP spin and not pointing out that the fraudulent voters are flagged. We need to get the truth to the mainstream media.
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2008 22:35:43
do it!
BobR on 10/14/2008 22:35:43
Quote by livingonli:
Headline News is running a story on Acorn right now which seems to be buying the GOP spin and not pointing out that the fraudulent voters are flagged. We need to get the truth to the mainstream media.
do it!
Comment by TriSec on 10/14/2008 22:51:15
TriSec on 10/14/2008 22:51:15
Ain't the internets grand?
Collings Foundation WWII re-enactment...this is where we were Sunday.
Collings Foundation WWII re-enactment...this is where we were Sunday.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 22:59:58
Liv, if I can call David Frum, you can call some dude at CNN. Also drop a dime on em via Media Matters. They take submissions/tips.
Mondobubba on 10/14/2008 22:59:58
Quote by livingonli:
Headline News is running a story on Acorn right now which seems to be buying the GOP spin and not pointing out that the fraudulent voters are flagged. We need to get the truth to the mainstream media.
Liv, if I can call David Frum, you can call some dude at CNN. Also drop a dime on em via Media Matters. They take submissions/tips.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 23:30:46
Also, Do tell them registration fraud is not Voter Fraud.
Random on 10/14/2008 23:30:46
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli:
Headline News is running a story on Acorn right now which seems to be buying the GOP spin and not pointing out that the fraudulent voters are flagged. We need to get the truth to the mainstream media.
Liv, if I can call David Frum, you can call some dude at CNN. Also drop a dime on em via Media Matters. They take submissions/tips.
Also, Do tell them registration fraud is not Voter Fraud.
Comment by Random on 10/14/2008 23:32:46
Thanks Liv. This gives me a great idea for a blog post tomorrow.
Random on 10/14/2008 23:32:46
Quote by livingonli:
Headline News is running a story on Acorn right now which seems to be buying the GOP spin and not pointing out that the fraudulent voters are flagged. We need to get the truth to the mainstream media.
Thanks Liv. This gives me a great idea for a blog post tomorrow.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:02:39
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:02:39
Keith with Frum as a worst person!
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:03:34
livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:03:34
And a special comment on Grampy.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:12:25
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:12:25
Christ, McCain is getting scrambley
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:13:31
livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:13:31
Thank goodness Keith is providing the facts in the story.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:18:21
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:18:21
Oh there was a thing on Hardball. Hank Williams, Jr has written a song for McCain/Palin.
Comment by 
clintster on 10/15/2008 00:44:19
Well, "written" in the form of "took one of his 30-year old hits and adapted the lyrics for Grampy and Winky". Funny how a song that was originally about
and 
is now an All-American-let's-git-them-librul-media-people singalong for the conservatives. Hannidork was playing it on his radio show today and giggling about it as if it was gonna change the election. 
clintster on 10/15/2008 00:44:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh there was a thing on Hardball. Hank Williams, Jr has written a song for McCain/Palin.
Well, "written" in the form of "took one of his 30-year old hits and adapted the lyrics for Grampy and Winky". Funny how a song that was originally about
and is now an All-American-let's-git-them-librul-media-people singalong for the conservatives. Hannidork was playing it on his radio show today and giggling about it as if it was gonna change the election.
Comment by TriSec on 10/15/2008 00:47:51
TriSec on 10/15/2008 00:47:51
The Force runs strong in my radio.
The Yankees lost it.
Cleveland lost it...
But the Rays?
:kickcan:
The Yankees lost it.
Cleveland lost it...
But the Rays?
:kickcan:
Comment by TriSec on 10/15/2008 00:51:11
TriSec on 10/15/2008 00:51:11
Heading out to the flying field now. Not going anywhere, I'm just gonna shoot some landings in one of my new rides.
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:52:08
livingonli on 10/15/2008 00:52:08
Is Bill-O even capable of rational thought.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:54:00
I stand somewhat corrected! See I didn't even know that Hank Jr still had a career. If you can call playing the (insert name of rural southern county) agricultural fair a career. I would guess he is getting a royalty check for that football song that gets played on ESPN on Mondee nights. But then I really don't know
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:54:00
Quote by clintster:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh there was a thing on Hardball. Hank Williams, Jr has written a song for McCain/Palin.
Well, "written" in the form of "took one of his 30-year old hits and adapted the lyrics for Grampy and Winky". Funny how a song that was originally about
I stand somewhat corrected! See I didn't even know that Hank Jr still had a career. If you can call playing the (insert name of rural southern county) agricultural fair a career. I would guess he is getting a royalty check for that football song that gets played on ESPN on Mondee nights. But then I really don't know
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 00:55:17
trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 00:55:17
Hey Tri
That stench is emanating from Fenway again.
That stench is emanating from Fenway again.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:55:59
Lose not your faith, Grasshopper. It is only the 3rd inning and the GRSoB have just scored.
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 00:55:59
Quote by TriSec:
The Force runs strong in my radio.
The Yankees lost it.
Cleveland lost it...
But the Rays?
:kickcan:
Lose not your faith, Grasshopper. It is only the 3rd inning and the GRSoB have just scored.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 00:57:44
trojanrabbit on 10/15/2008 00:57:44
Only thing that's slightly bothering me is that ga$ is dropping pretty rapidly (saw it at $2.85 today) and I'm worried that some of the "short attention span" numbskulls will think that Grampy and the Rethugs are responsible for it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:07:35
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:07:35
Oh boy, Kerry is on with Rachel. I am underwhelmed.
Comment by Random on 10/15/2008 01:12:40
Random on 10/15/2008 01:12:40
Random Nuts
And Random look atVoter Registration Fraud.
And Random look at
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:21:50
As say opposed to this?
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:21:50
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Only thing that's slightly bothering me is that ga$ is dropping pretty rapidly (saw it at $2.85 today) and I'm worried that some of the "short attention span" numbskulls will think that Grampy and the Rethugs are responsible for it.
As say opposed to this?
Comment by MMB on 10/15/2008 01:36:12
MMB on 10/15/2008 01:36:12
I paid 2.94 a gallon when i filled my little car up today it's amazing that i got all excited at that price but it beats 3.94!!! I haven't heard anybody really claiming that they are responsible for the drop yet but nothing will suprise me!!!
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 01:37:28
livingonli on 10/15/2008 01:37:28
Canadian parliamentary seat tally so far mostly from the Atlantic. Polls have just closed in Quebec and Ontario.
Liberal-20
Conservative-11
NDP-5
BQ-2
Other-1
Liberal-20
Conservative-11
NDP-5
BQ-2
Other-1
Comment by Random on 10/15/2008 01:47:00
Random on 10/15/2008 01:47:00
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:49:51
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:49:51
OMG. Richard Dryfus as Cheeny! Scary!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:53:16
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 01:53:16
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 01:54:05
livingonli on 10/15/2008 01:54:05
Latest seat stats;
65-Conservative
58-Liberal
20-NDP
13-BQ
2-other
65-Conservative
58-Liberal
20-NDP
13-BQ
2-other
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:01:05
livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:01:05
C-SPAN is picking up the CBC coverage of the Canadian election.
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:14:10
livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:14:10
Seats update in Canada;
122-Conservative
75-Liberal
40-BQ
27-NDP
2-Other.
122-Conservative
75-Liberal
40-BQ
27-NDP
2-Other.
Comment by TriSec on 10/15/2008 02:15:31
TriSec on 10/15/2008 02:15:31
*grunt*
Flight sim wouldn't even behave. Had my Airspeed Ambassador heading inbound to Sturgis, and the GPS locked up; I had to reboot.
I think I need to run some diagnostics...
Flight sim wouldn't even behave. Had my Airspeed Ambassador heading inbound to Sturgis, and the GPS locked up; I had to reboot.
I think I need to run some diagnostics...
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 02:34:55
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 02:34:55
The Stench from Fenway is overwhelming. I can smell it all the way down here. :puke:
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:37:06
livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:37:06
The latest up north;
139-Conservative
75-Liberal
48-BQ
37-NDP
3-Other
Tories are 16 seats away from a majority.
139-Conservative
75-Liberal
48-BQ
37-NDP
3-Other
Tories are 16 seats away from a majority.
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:56:21
livingonli on 10/15/2008 02:56:21
CBC is calling now a Tory minority again. They have gained seats but not enought to lock it.
Percentages;
36%-Conservative
28%-Liberal
19%-NDP
8%-BQ
6.5%-Green
Just imagine if Canada had proportional representation like other multi-party democracies.
Percentages;
36%-Conservative
28%-Liberal
19%-NDP
8%-BQ
6.5%-Green
Just imagine if Canada had proportional representation like other multi-party democracies.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 03:14:52
Liv, the US is kind of the anomaly in the world. Most of the world works off the parliamentary system. Canada, the UK, Ireland, Italy, Australia, New Zeeland, Israel, France, Spain.
Mondobubba on 10/15/2008 03:14:52
Quote by livingonli:
CBC is calling now a Tory minority again. They have gained seats but not enought to lock it.
Percentages;
36%-Conservative
28%-Liberal
19%-NDP
8%-BQ
6.5%-Green
Just imagine if Canada had proportional representation like other multi-party democracies.
Liv, the US is kind of the anomaly in the world. Most of the world works off the parliamentary system. Canada, the UK, Ireland, Italy, Australia, New Zeeland, Israel, France, Spain.
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 04:16:21
But outside of the British Commonwealth (with the exception of New Zealand) all have proportional representation. If Canada had PR, it would mean the Tories would have had fewer seats and the NDP would have had more seats and the Greens would have actually had seats which would have probably have led to a Liberal-Left coalition forcing the Tories into the opposition.
livingonli on 10/15/2008 04:16:21
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli:
CBC is calling now a Tory minority again. They have gained seats but not enought to lock it.
Percentages;
36%-Conservative
28%-Liberal
19%-NDP
8%-BQ
6.5%-Green
Just imagine if Canada had proportional representation like other multi-party democracies.
Liv, the US is kind of the anomaly in the world. Most of the world works off the parliamentary system. Canada, the UK, Ireland, Italy, Australia, New Zeeland, Israel, France, Spain.
But outside of the British Commonwealth (with the exception of New Zealand) all have proportional representation. If Canada had PR, it would mean the Tories would have had fewer seats and the NDP would have had more seats and the Greens would have actually had seats which would have probably have led to a Liberal-Left coalition forcing the Tories into the opposition.
Comment by livingonli on 10/15/2008 05:53:29
livingonli on 10/15/2008 05:53:29
And speaking of scum rising to the service: Ari Fleischer on The Daily Show.1