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Watching the Baby Drown
Author: BobR
Date: 11/26/2008 13:36:48
We are a nation of spectators. We watch TV, we watch ball games, we watch movies, we sit on park benches and people-watch. We sit in our lazy boy recliners and complain about everything, yet seldom do anything. That is not always a bad thing, but it can be a bad thing when we should intervene as citizens of this country. It's almost been fatal to our country when it is our government officials that do nothing.
Sure, we've complained when this administration has done something we don't like. The bigger problem, though, is when it hasn't done anything at all. Would you sit and watch a baby drown in the bathtub? Of course not. But that's what's happened the last 8 years. The sick part of it is that it's all part of the "small government" agenda proposed by Grover Norquist and his ilk. They haven't had to shrink government so they could actively drown it in the bathtub - they've sat by and watched it drown on its own.
Oversight has been non-existent. The theories of "self-regulation" and "the market will correct itself" via competition goes against common sense, and - as expected - have resulted in financial ruin and death. What person in their right mind would think that business can be trusted to do the right thing?
If we're supposed to be so trusting of self-regulation and market correction, why not just do away with the police forces? Sure initially some people might get killed, but then the "market" (the citizens) would simply correct itself (arm themselves) and everything would be fine (frontier justice). For gawds sake, even towns in the wild west had sheriffs.
We've seen what lack of regulation and oversight means in the new "wild west" of the banking industry... We have banks tying up risky debt in a pretty pink bow and calling it an asset (and then selling it to another bank). They then lend money on this "asset". This is like FAUX News creating "facts" out of thin air by:
Except - there really isn't that much competition. This is another fatal flaw in the neo-con economic premise that competition maintains an even playing field. I believe it was William A. Barnett who described economics in terms of chaos and raindrops. He said that businesses are like the drops of rain on the hood of a car. Initially, they are all separate. However, the drops begin to glump together to form bigger drops, with the big drops swallowing the smaller drops until you have one big drop.
This has proven to be the case in the banking industry, the auto industry, the media industry... the word "merger" is just another way to say "monopoly". What does the neo-con agenda say about preventing monopolies? It doesn't - it just says "hands off".
As a result of non-intervention, we have huge corporations that are "too big to fail", yet have done so in spectacular fashion. They've focused on profits over people and exhorbitant CEO pay over profits. With no competition, they've ignored the demands of the market, which then really caused problems when competition (usually from foreign shores) came back into the picture. They've focused more on marketing than on the products themselves. They've outsourced everything to the point that there aren't enough workers in America to buy the products they're selling.
As a result, we can choose from American-made crap, Chinese-made crap, or expensive well-made products from Europe or Japan. We've even outsourced food production, resulting in poison dog food and melamine in our milk. We have an FDA that cannot initiate a food recall (it must be done voluntarily by the food manufacturer itself).
Where is the market correction in all of this?
It finally happened on November 4th.
As the nation's electorate looked around at a country they barely recognized anymore and wondered what the hell happened, it began to dawn on them that maybe the current way of doing things was not working. The deregulated freemarket economy espoused by the neo-cons may have looked good on paper, but people realized that they really WANT government to ensure that they don't have to get screwed by business as part of a "correction". So they did what they could.... they voted.
The baby has been pulled from the tub. There's a new sheriff in town. The neo-cons have had years to prove their theories and their theories have proven to be unworkable in real life. Now we have a chance to show how well government-regulated capitalism can work.
There's hope for the baby yet.
Sure, we've complained when this administration has done something we don't like. The bigger problem, though, is when it hasn't done anything at all. Would you sit and watch a baby drown in the bathtub? Of course not. But that's what's happened the last 8 years. The sick part of it is that it's all part of the "small government" agenda proposed by Grover Norquist and his ilk. They haven't had to shrink government so they could actively drown it in the bathtub - they've sat by and watched it drown on its own.
Oversight has been non-existent. The theories of "self-regulation" and "the market will correct itself" via competition goes against common sense, and - as expected - have resulted in financial ruin and death. What person in their right mind would think that business can be trusted to do the right thing?
If we're supposed to be so trusting of self-regulation and market correction, why not just do away with the police forces? Sure initially some people might get killed, but then the "market" (the citizens) would simply correct itself (arm themselves) and everything would be fine (frontier justice). For gawds sake, even towns in the wild west had sheriffs.
We've seen what lack of regulation and oversight means in the new "wild west" of the banking industry... We have banks tying up risky debt in a pretty pink bow and calling it an asset (and then selling it to another bank). They then lend money on this "asset". This is like FAUX News creating "facts" out of thin air by:
- Commentator says "I wonder if this is true"
- Later another commentator says "There's been talk of..."
- News reader says "Some say that..."
- Another news reader says "We investigate the facts to see if this is what everyone has been saying. Watch for the results of our investigation" (which leaves the result in question for the viewer to decide)
Except - there really isn't that much competition. This is another fatal flaw in the neo-con economic premise that competition maintains an even playing field. I believe it was William A. Barnett who described economics in terms of chaos and raindrops. He said that businesses are like the drops of rain on the hood of a car. Initially, they are all separate. However, the drops begin to glump together to form bigger drops, with the big drops swallowing the smaller drops until you have one big drop.
This has proven to be the case in the banking industry, the auto industry, the media industry... the word "merger" is just another way to say "monopoly". What does the neo-con agenda say about preventing monopolies? It doesn't - it just says "hands off".
As a result of non-intervention, we have huge corporations that are "too big to fail", yet have done so in spectacular fashion. They've focused on profits over people and exhorbitant CEO pay over profits. With no competition, they've ignored the demands of the market, which then really caused problems when competition (usually from foreign shores) came back into the picture. They've focused more on marketing than on the products themselves. They've outsourced everything to the point that there aren't enough workers in America to buy the products they're selling.
As a result, we can choose from American-made crap, Chinese-made crap, or expensive well-made products from Europe or Japan. We've even outsourced food production, resulting in poison dog food and melamine in our milk. We have an FDA that cannot initiate a food recall (it must be done voluntarily by the food manufacturer itself).
Where is the market correction in all of this?
It finally happened on November 4th.
As the nation's electorate looked around at a country they barely recognized anymore and wondered what the hell happened, it began to dawn on them that maybe the current way of doing things was not working. The deregulated freemarket economy espoused by the neo-cons may have looked good on paper, but people realized that they really WANT government to ensure that they don't have to get screwed by business as part of a "correction". So they did what they could.... they voted.
The baby has been pulled from the tub. There's a new sheriff in town. The neo-cons have had years to prove their theories and their theories have proven to be unworkable in real life. Now we have a chance to show how well government-regulated capitalism can work.
There's hope for the baby yet.
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Comment by 
TriSec on 11/26/2008 13:50:20
TriSec on 11/26/2008 13:50:20
Eeep!
Pretty harsh repudiation of Libertarian economic theory there, Bob. (Some stuff I never bought, BTW.) Anyway, kinda glad "Libertarian Saturday" went on hiatus now, at least before you all take me out back and start throwing things...
Pretty harsh repudiation of Libertarian economic theory there, Bob. (Some stuff I never bought, BTW.) Anyway, kinda glad "Libertarian Saturday" went on hiatus now, at least before you all take me out back and start throwing things...
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 13:51:06
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 13:51:06
Morning all! 
Are we all settled in an about to enjoy a half-day at the office?
I sure am! Coffee in one hand, apple fritter in the other, and bloggie to feed the brain.
Are we all settled in an about to enjoy a half-day at the office?I sure am! Coffee in one hand, apple fritter in the other, and bloggie to feed the brain.
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 13:59:14
TriSec on 11/26/2008 13:59:14
Is Momma fresh today?
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:00:16
I think it's more a reaction to neoconservative economic theory, which uses libertarianism as a front and a scapegoat for funnelling taxpayer dollars to a group of individuals and/or companies (i.e. textbook fascism).
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:00:16
Quote by TriSec:
Eeep!
Pretty harsh repudiation of Libertarian economic theory there, Bob. (Some stuff I never bought, BTW.) Anyway, kinda glad "Libertarian Saturday" went on hiatus now, at least before you all take me out back and start throwing things...
I think it's more a reaction to neoconservative economic theory, which uses libertarianism as a front and a scapegoat for funnelling taxpayer dollars to a group of individuals and/or companies (i.e. textbook fascism).
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:02:40
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:02:40
Comment by 
m-hadley on 11/26/2008 14:06:05
m-hadley on 11/26/2008 14:06:05
Momma and the Mooks are doing it LIVE today, a "best of" tomorrow and some other guy on Frdiay. That's the word on the street, anywho...
Happee Wednesdee (Fridee :P) Everybodee :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Happee Wednesdee (Fridee :P) Everybodee :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:07:16
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:07:16
MOrning :hug:
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 14:09:53
TriSec on 11/26/2008 14:09:53
Thanksgiving at Momma's!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:13:09
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:13:09
Comment by 
clintster on 11/26/2008 14:13:54
clintster on 11/26/2008 14:13:54
Beaver chili, anyone?
Comment by 
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:25:15
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:25:15
Good morning!
Excellent blog this morning Bobber.
Excellent blog this morning Bobber.
Comment by 
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:25:37
It's a repudiation of letting business do whatever they want because it's "good for business, and what's good for business is good for America". Is that Libertarian economic theory? What parts of Libertarian Economic Theory do you agree with?
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:25:37
Quote by TriSec:
Eeep!
Pretty harsh repudiation of Libertarian economic theory there, Bob. (Some stuff I never bought, BTW.) Anyway, kinda glad "Libertarian Saturday" went on hiatus now, at least before you all take me out back and start throwing things...
It's a repudiation of letting business do whatever they want because it's "good for business, and what's good for business is good for America". Is that Libertarian economic theory? What parts of Libertarian Economic Theory do you agree with?
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:25:57
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 14:25:57
Sooooooooooo.. Babs Bush is in the hospital eh?
....
Forgive me if I don't get up and send flowers.
....
Forgive me if I don't get up and send flowers.
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 14:28:37
to some extent, yes.
But it's also a condemnation of the whole "hands off" approach. A good example of this is what I mentioned in the blog, where the FDA has been neutered to the point where it can only issue "recommendations" instead of enforcing the law.
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:28:37
Quote by Scoopster:
I think it's more a reaction to neoconservative economic theory, which uses libertarianism as a front and a scapegoat for funnelling taxpayer dollars to a group of individuals and/or companies (i.e. textbook fascism).
to some extent, yes.
But it's also a condemnation of the whole "hands off" approach. A good example of this is what I mentioned in the blog, where the FDA has been neutered to the point where it can only issue "recommendations" instead of enforcing the law.
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 14:29:44
She's really much better off this way...
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:29:44
Quote by Scoopster:
Sooooooooooo.. Babs Bush is in the hospital eh?
....
Forgive me if I don't get up and send flowers.
She's really much better off this way...
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 14:40:14
I loved when someoen called to ask how you stuff a turkey, and Chris said: with sausage?
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:40:14
Quote by clintster:
Beaver chili, anyone?
I loved when someoen called to ask how you stuff a turkey, and Chris said: with sausage?
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 14:56:37
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:56:37
I do not like Jerry.
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 14:57:33
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:57:33
the right-wing tool auctioneer on Steph is making my head hurt...
Comment by wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:57:37
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 14:57:37
neither do I. he makes me hyperventilate
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 14:58:23
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:58:23
Where did everyone go?
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 14:58:28
BobR on 11/26/2008 14:58:28
where did everyone go?
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 14:59:22
velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 14:59:22
Morning all..... what a beautiful day for........AHHHHHHH! Not JERRY!!!! Someone get Velveeta's pistol!! AHHHHHHH!!!
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 14:59:22
Raine on 11/26/2008 14:59:22
:beer:
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 11/26/2008 15:01:38
Will in Chicago on 11/26/2008 15:01:38
Good morning, bloggers!! Great post, BobR!!
I think that one flaw of the economic theory propagated by the Bush administration is that the market is a perfect corrective force. I will submit the argument that nothing involving human beings is perfect.
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
I think that one flaw of the economic theory propagated by the Bush administration is that the market is a perfect corrective force. I will submit the argument that nothing involving human beings is perfect.
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:04:54
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:04:54
Morning all. My epic traffic court date is today at 1:30. Justice will be served. Served cold, for like revenge justice is best when served that way.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:10:18
I'm sure Momma uses FDS every day.
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:10:18
Quote by TriSec:
Is Momma fresh today?
I'm sure Momma uses FDS every day.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:14:22
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:14:22
Faye!
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:14:27
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:14:27
FAYE!!!
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:16:18
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:16:18
The question, Mondo --- is who is serving the justice?? 
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:17:17
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:17:17
Momma with the beaver jokes...
Oh Savage Weiner. My ears are bleeding. Owwwwie.
Oh Savage Weiner. My ears are bleeding. Owwwwie.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:18:59
I will be because I have the documentation that shows the State of Florida was wrong! HA!
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:18:59
Quote by Raine:
The question, Mondo --- is who is serving the justice??
I will be because I have the documentation that shows the State of Florida was wrong! HA!
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 15:20:21
Still here.. working away. Goin' to Hartford in a couple hours tho!
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 15:20:21
Quote by Raine & BobR:
Where did everyone go?
Still here.. working away. Goin' to Hartford in a couple hours tho!
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 15:26:06
BobR on 11/26/2008 15:26:06
White Castle hamburger stuffing??... :puke:
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 15:29:25
I promise I'll send letters to alleviate your bleak existence in Gitmo...
BobR on 11/26/2008 15:29:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
I will be because I have the documentation that shows the State of Florida was wrong! HA!
I promise I'll send letters to alleviate your bleak existence in Gitmo...
Comment by velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 15:29:57
velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 15:29:57
Hey, maybe this is why McCain lost:
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:30:14
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:30:14
I don't think HRC has been offered the position of SoS at all. After reading this article, I am even more convinced that this is all smoke and mirrors from the Clinton camp.
The article DOES however explain WHY kennedy offered HRC a lead position on his senate health care team.
The article DOES however explain WHY kennedy offered HRC a lead position on his senate health care team.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:35:44
I was in the kitchen, I thought that is what they were discussing. :shudder:
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:35:44
Quote by BobR:
White Castle hamburger stuffing??... :puke:
I was in the kitchen, I thought that is what they were discussing. :shudder:
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:36:17
TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:36:17
Busy, busy....
and I still have a meeting at 1:00. But that's it, we should be able to sneak out soon after that.
Going a whopping 14 miles to Saugus tomorrow morning...
and I still have a meeting at 1:00. But that's it, we should be able to sneak out soon after that.
Going a whopping 14 miles to Saugus tomorrow morning...
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:38:40
TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:38:40
Hmm...my mother makes a stuffing that consists primarily of hamburger, mashed potatoes, and onion. (Kinda like Shepherd's Pie, actually). 'tis the highlight of our Thanksgiving, as she only makes it once a year.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 15:40:46
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 15:40:46
Speaking of Hartford... where's 
been?
been?
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:40:56
Bless there little hopeful souls...
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:40:56
Quote by velveeta jones:
Hey, maybe this is why McCain lost:
:rofl:
Bless there little hopeful souls...
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:41:39
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:41:39
Did Jim's Hannity veer into Wood Allen for a second?
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:42:04
livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:42:04
Good morning everyone. 
mfaye, loved your guess the quote.
I wish that right-wing tool from Chicago would go far away.
mfaye, loved your guess the quote.
I wish that right-wing tool from Chicago would go far away.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:42:56
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:42:56
MY family used to make a venison stuffing... Seriously -- delish. Onions and bacon and some bread crumbs and ground venison, spices and herbs.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:42:57
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:42:57
Hey! I have Bohemian ancestors thank you very much.
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:45:43
I've got one.
<------ Jerry from Chicago.
livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:45:43
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all..... what a beautiful day for........AHHHHHHH! Not JERRY!!!! Someone get Velveeta's pistol!! AHHHHHHH!!!
I've got one.
<------ Jerry from Chicago.
Comment by m-hadley on 11/26/2008 15:47:01
m-hadley on 11/26/2008 15:47:01
Heya Kids!
Happee Thanksgiving everyone :P
RW Jerry works my last nerve - so did Momma read something I sent to her? I have been running around and in and out of my office and missed it...
Hope all of youse are having a great day and have a mahvelous Turkey day manana... I'm back now for a few minutes anyway...
Cheers,
mfaye
Happee Thanksgiving everyone :P
RW Jerry works my last nerve - so did Momma read something I sent to her? I have been running around and in and out of my office and missed it...
Hope all of youse are having a great day and have a mahvelous Turkey day manana... I'm back now for a few minutes anyway...Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:48:38
Momma did your guess the quote for Jim.
livingonli on 11/26/2008 15:48:38
Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids!
Happee Thanksgiving everyone :P
RW Jerry works my last nerve - so did Momma read something I sent to her? I have been running around and in and out of my office and missed it...
Cheers,
mfaye
Momma did your guess the quote for Jim.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:49:49
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:49:49
I'm with Alton Brown. Stuffing is evil.
1. It increases cooking time. Which can dry out the bird.
2. It is a breeding ground for bacteria.
So, make the stuffing as a casserole. Cook the bird empty.
1. It increases cooking time. Which can dry out the bird.
2. It is a breeding ground for bacteria.
So, make the stuffing as a casserole. Cook the bird empty.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:49:54
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:49:54
Scoop... when you get a chance, I sent you a message on the Facecrack...
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:52:47
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:52:47
Hey here's a fun factlet: 1922 – Howard Carter and Lord Carnarvon became the first people to enter the tomb of Pharaoh Tutankhamun in over 3,000 years.
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:53:22
TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:53:22
I had an idle thought about Sec. Gates.
Sure he's a Republican....but once he's freed from the Bush Ineptitude, and surrounded by competent people, do you think he can run the Defense Department efficiently and well? And not necessarily in lockstep with President Obama....
Sure he's a Republican....but once he's freed from the Bush Ineptitude, and surrounded by competent people, do you think he can run the Defense Department efficiently and well? And not necessarily in lockstep with President Obama....
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 15:55:11
Raine on 11/26/2008 15:55:11
My family made Sauerkraut. Have some homemade stuff right here. I could make it if I had the room and time.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:56:16
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 15:56:16
Scoop, have you sent me a friend request?
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:56:44
TriSec on 11/26/2008 15:56:44
Well, between Sicilian and Filipino, we generally don't do much with sauerkraut.
Neither do the Cubans....
Neither do the Cubans....
Comment by wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:58:27
Personally I like cooking my turkey with apples, carrots and celery but ya don't eat it later
wickedpam on 11/26/2008 15:58:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
I'm with Alton Brown. Stuffing is evil.
1. It increases cooking time. Which can dry out the bird.
2. It is a breeding ground for bacteria.
So, make the stuffing as a casserole. Cook the bird empty.
Personally I like cooking my turkey with apples, carrots and celery but ya don't eat it later
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:00:21
What I will look like in court.
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:00:21
What I will look like in court.
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:00:42
TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:00:42
Well, I can see Chris won't be dropping by Mama TriSec's tomorrow...
The Italian Stuffed Pepper...
A curious food, the pepper is steamed, then filled with olive-oil soaked breadcrumb that is mixed with pignoli, Sicilian olives, and anchovy...then broiled till just brown on the top.
De-lish! But that's just me.
(But it's not a Bell pepper, either...it's the long Italian pepper that is used.)
The Italian Stuffed Pepper...
A curious food, the pepper is steamed, then filled with olive-oil soaked breadcrumb that is mixed with pignoli, Sicilian olives, and anchovy...then broiled till just brown on the top.
De-lish! But that's just me.
(But it's not a Bell pepper, either...it's the long Italian pepper that is used.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:04:01
Hmmm I dunno about the Cubans or the Filipino, but the Sicilians have a rich tradition of pickles. Nothing with cabbage...
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:04:01
Quote by TriSec:
Well, between Sicilian and Filipino, we generally don't do much with sauerkraut.
Neither do the Cubans....
Hmmm I dunno about the Cubans or the Filipino, but the Sicilians have a rich tradition of pickles. Nothing with cabbage...
Comment by m-hadley on 11/26/2008 16:04:31
Raine,
Don't mean to :deadhorse:, but did you and BobR ever get the gmail I sent you regarding the upkeep of this fabulous place you all have created? Please let me know - today is payday
:D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 11/26/2008 16:04:31
Quote by Raine:
Scoop... when you get a chance, I sent you a message on the Facecrack...
Raine,
Don't mean to :deadhorse:, but did you and BobR ever get the gmail I sent you regarding the upkeep of this fabulous place you all have created? Please let me know - today is payday
:DCheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:07:15
Grampa Simpson: During the war, we called sauerkraut "Liberty Cabbage".
livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:07:15
Quote by TriSec:
Well, between Sicilian and Filipino, we generally don't do much with sauerkraut.
Neither do the Cubans....
Grampa Simpson: During the war, we called sauerkraut "Liberty Cabbage".
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:07:25
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:07:25
Message received Raine! I think I'm starting to get the hang of this thing..
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:07:57
Chris and Mrs Mondo are in lock step about the bell pepper. She couldn't abide them. I do agree, they are a very strong flavoring agent, but I like em.
Mmmmmm that sounds wonderful! Super savory with the filing. The peper adds just a touch of fruity sweetness, yes?
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:07:57
Quote by TriSec:
Well, I can see Chris won't be dropping by Mama TriSec's tomorrow...
The Italian Stuffed Pepper...
A curious food, the pepper is steamed, then filled with olive-oil soaked breadcrumb that is mixed with pignoli, Sicilian olives, and anchovy...then broiled till just brown on the top.
De-lish! But that's just me.
(But it's not a Bell pepper, either...it's the long Italian pepper that is used.)
Chris and Mrs Mondo are in lock step about the bell pepper. She couldn't abide them. I do agree, they are a very strong flavoring agent, but I like em.
Mmmmmm that sounds wonderful! Super savory with the filing. The peper adds just a touch of fruity sweetness, yes?
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:10:04
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:10:04
A cold dead frozen beaver...
Comment by clintster on 11/26/2008 16:11:26
clintster on 11/26/2008 16:11:26
JIM: "He used the word 'fabulous', so I guess it IS the first time he's eaten beaver..."
CHRIS: "STOP IT!"
CHRIS: "STOP IT!"
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:11:52
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:11:52
I was waiting for him to say fishy. I was denied. :kickcan:
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:12:45
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:12:45
OMG... the beaver Chili bit... OMG..
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:14:28
Faye, We never got the gmail. neither bob or myself.
I am sorry I thought I responded to you the other day...
Did you click on the contact staff button over there or did you send it to my regular email addee?
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:14:28
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
Scoop... when you get a chance, I sent you a message on the Facecrack...
Raine,
Don't mean to :deadhorse:, but did you and BobR ever get the gmail I sent you regarding the upkeep of this fabulous place you all have created? Please let me know - today is payday
Cheers,
mfaye
I am sorry I thought I responded to you the other day...
Did you click on the contact staff button over there or did you send it to my regular email addee?
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 16:15:17
oh shite! Sorry!
No, we didn't get it. Just click on the "Contact 4F" link on the left...
BobR on 11/26/2008 16:15:17
Quote by m-hadley:
Raine,
Don't mean to :deadhorse:, but did you and BobR ever get the gmail I sent you regarding the upkeep of this fabulous place you all have created? Please let me know - today is payday
Cheers,
mfaye
oh shite! Sorry!
No, we didn't get it. Just click on the "Contact 4F" link on the left...
Comment by velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 16:16:18
velveeta jones on 11/26/2008 16:16:18
Velveeta and wife will not be eating a bird this year, since we've become.................
...........vegetarians.
...........vegetarians.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:16:26
hysterical..
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:16:26
Quote by clintster:
JIM: "He used the word 'fabulous', so I guess it IS the first time he's eaten beaver..."
CHRIS: "STOP IT!"
hysterical..
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:17:16
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:17:16
Jello salad. WASP soul food at its finest! 
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:17:17
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:17:17
:puke: green Jello with celery and beaver tail...
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:18:05
I could swear you were already on my list..
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:18:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Scoop, have you sent me a friend request?
I could swear you were already on my list..
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:19:23
TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:19:23
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:20:27
Hey I have a fantastic homemade recipe for veggie lasagna if you want it... but I can only give it out if you PROMISE to make your own sauce. :lol:
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:20:27
Quote by velveeta jones:
Velveeta and wife will not be eating a bird this year, since we've become.................
...........vegetarians.
Hey I have a fantastic homemade recipe for veggie lasagna if you want it... but I can only give it out if you PROMISE to make your own sauce. :lol:
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:20:37
The bus skids off the road into
http://www.ontariowildflower.com/images/beaverdam.jpg
Oh the humanity!
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:20:37
The bus skids off the road into
http://www.ontariowildflower.com/images/beaverdam.jpg
Oh the humanity!
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:21:11
: dodges incoming brick :
TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:21:11
Quote by velveeta jones:
Velveeta and wife will not be eating a bird this year, since we've become.................
...........vegetarians.
: dodges incoming brick :
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:21:40
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:21:40
Cheers for Rhode Island!
Detroit’s beleaguered automakers suffered another blow on Tuesday — this time, to their efforts to stave off higher emissions standards for cars and trucks.
Several automakers, including DaimlerChrysler and General Motors, had sued in the Federal District Court for Rhode Island to stop that state from following California’s efforts to seek greenhouse gas emissions standards that are stricter than those of the federal government. Automakers had already lost similar federal cases in Vermont and California.
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:22:20
Someone just let the cat out of the bag.
livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:22:20
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:
JIM: "He used the word 'fabulous', so I guess it IS the first time he's eaten beaver..."
CHRIS: "STOP IT!"
Someone just let the cat out of the bag.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:25:59
Yeah that could be from Luzon or Paliwan not Mindanao.
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 16:25:59
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, Filipino pickled cabbage.
Well, that didn't come from *my* island....
Yeah that could be from Luzon or Paliwan not Mindanao.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:33:34
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:33:34
Is HRC barred from SoS position constituionally?
It has been a meme I have been hearing for a few days, this is the first article from a source I somewhat trust.
The Salary in question is actually the SoS. She voted, I believe last year or the year, before to increase it.
It has been a meme I have been hearing for a few days, this is the first article from a source I somewhat trust.
Essentially, you cannot take a job if the salary was increased during your current congressional term. And the salary for cabinet officials has gone up in the past year. Even if it is lowered back down, constitutional scholars say that may not be enough to fix the problem.Article One, Section Six of the U.S. Constitution says:
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.
The Salary in question is actually the SoS. She voted, I believe last year or the year, before to increase it.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:42:16
Woooooo rock on Rhody! :metal:
Scoopster on 11/26/2008 16:42:16
Quote by Raine:
Cheers for Rhode Island!Detroit’s beleaguered automakers suffered another blow on Tuesday — this time, to their efforts to stave off higher emissions standards for cars and trucks.
Several automakers, including DaimlerChrysler and General Motors, had sued in the Federal District Court for Rhode Island to stop that state from following California’s efforts to seek greenhouse gas emissions standards that are stricter than those of the federal government. Automakers had already lost similar federal cases in Vermont and California.
Woooooo rock on Rhody! :metal:
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:50:34
TriSec on 11/26/2008 16:50:34
: ears prick up :
A Traditional Maine Cookout?
Sorry, that's lobster, clams, crab, corn.....
'taint Beaver!
A Traditional Maine Cookout?
Sorry, that's lobster, clams, crab, corn.....
'taint Beaver!
Comment by m-hadley on 11/26/2008 16:52:40
Raine & BobR,
I resent my original missive to both Raine's concast address and to the Four Freedoms comcast address. Hope it gets through this time... Let me know :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 11/26/2008 16:52:40
Quote by BobR:Quote by m-hadley:
Raine,
Don't mean to :deadhorse:, but did you and BobR ever get the gmail I sent you regarding the upkeep of this fabulous place you all have created? Please let me know - today is payday
Cheers,
mfaye
oh shite! Sorry!
No, we didn't get it. Just click on the "Contact 4F" link on the left...
Raine & BobR,
I resent my original missive to both Raine's concast address and to the Four Freedoms comcast address. Hope it gets through this time... Let me know :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:53:02
You better have a word with The Travel Channel people.
livingonli on 11/26/2008 16:53:02
Quote by TriSec:
: ears prick up :
A Traditional Maine Cookout?
Sorry, that's lobster, clams, crab, corn.....
'taint Beaver!
You better have a word with The Travel Channel people.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 16:57:23
Raine on 11/26/2008 16:57:23
Faye... going to check right now!
(and it wasn't a hardcore Rapper, it was one of the Fugees producers... and BFF to Carly Simons son.... )
(and it wasn't a hardcore Rapper, it was one of the Fugees producers... and BFF to Carly Simons son.... )
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 17:01:42
It seems then that anyone in Congress that voted for that would be disallowed from taking the position. For that matter, did they vote to increase the salary for any other positions that Obama is trying to staff?
BobR on 11/26/2008 17:01:42
Quote by Raine:
Is HRC barred from SoS position constituionally?
It has been a meme I have been hearing for a few days, this is the first article from a source I somewhat trust.
The Salary in question is actually the SoS. She voted, I believe last year or the year, before to increase it.
It seems then that anyone in Congress that voted for that would be disallowed from taking the position. For that matter, did they vote to increase the salary for any other positions that Obama is trying to staff?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 17:06:08
Tri, Maine's a big place, full of inbred folks way up north. I'm just sayin...
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 17:06:08
Quote by TriSec:
: ears prick up :
A Traditional Maine Cookout?
Sorry, that's lobster, clams, crab, corn.....
'taint Beaver!
Tri, Maine's a big place, full of inbred folks way up north. I'm just sayin...
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 17:19:03
I believe the vote was for the salaries of the entire cabinet. I would say yes, ANYONE who voted for the salary increase would be ruled out for the position they voted to increase the salary for in regards to this clause.
I personally think it is very minor and issue, but it is a meme out there, and I have NO question in my mind that the republicans will make it an issue if she gets to nomination hearings.
In other words, expect partisan bullshit to be coming down the pike.
Raine on 11/26/2008 17:19:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Is HRC barred from SoS position constituionally?
It has been a meme I have been hearing for a few days, this is the first article from a source I somewhat trust.
The Salary in question is actually the SoS. She voted, I believe last year or the year, before to increase it.
It seems then that anyone in Congress that voted for that would be disallowed from taking the position. For that matter, did they vote to increase the salary for any other positions that Obama is trying to staff?
I believe the vote was for the salaries of the entire cabinet. I would say yes, ANYONE who voted for the salary increase would be ruled out for the position they voted to increase the salary for in regards to this clause.
I personally think it is very minor and issue, but it is a meme out there, and I have NO question in my mind that the republicans will make it an issue if she gets to nomination hearings.
In other words, expect partisan bullshit to be coming down the pike.
Comment by BobR on 11/26/2008 17:24:34
BobR on 11/26/2008 17:24:34
Faye - responded to the email...
Comment by IzzyBitz on 11/26/2008 17:38:47
That's what HE said!
IzzyBitz on 11/26/2008 17:38:47
Quote by Raine:
A cold dead frozen beaver...
That's what HE said!
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 17:47:34
TriSec on 11/26/2008 17:47:34
Well, I've spent some time in Millinocket and in and around Baxter State Park....they'll eat moose and squirrel, but beaver is a pest. They just shewt'em.
At least the people I know...
At least the people I know...
Comment by TriSec on 11/26/2008 19:19:01
TriSec on 11/26/2008 19:19:01
Now playing:
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 19:35:32
livingonli on 11/26/2008 19:35:32
I guess the blog is making Thanksgiving dinner.
Comment by livingonli on 11/26/2008 20:27:41
livingonli on 11/26/2008 20:27:41
Oh, well. Off to work tonight since I have to stop at the drug store so I probably won't be online the rest of the night.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 21:27:06
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 21:27:06
Justice prevails! Charges dropped.
Judge: Mr Mondo, I see you had you license reinstated the day after you received the ticket, is that correct?
Me: Yes your honor.
Judge: Did you have to pay a reinstatement fee?
Me: No, your honor.
Judge: Okay, the charges are dropped (Aside to the ASA).
Me: Thank you, Your Honor.
Baliff: Happy Thanksgiving.
And....scene! :bow:
Judge: Mr Mondo, I see you had you license reinstated the day after you received the ticket, is that correct?
Me: Yes your honor.
Judge: Did you have to pay a reinstatement fee?
Me: No, your honor.
Judge: Okay, the charges are dropped (Aside to the ASA).
Me: Thank you, Your Honor.
Baliff: Happy Thanksgiving.
And....scene! :bow:
Comment by 
Random on 11/26/2008 21:29:36
Random on 11/26/2008 21:29:36
Random has a long strenious story, that would likely bore the crap out of you before it gets to it's point...so here's the short version.
I like Get Your War On. You should go out and read some Get Your War On. On that note, i found a strangley prophetic panel of Get Your War On.
Standing guy on phone:
(Emphesis Get Your War On's)
This is from a strip published April 6th 2006.
I like Get Your War On. You should go out and read some Get Your War On. On that note, i found a strangley prophetic panel of Get Your War On.
Standing guy on phone:
You know, if you pay attention between now and 2008, you'll actually be able to see McCain turn into a complete fucking joke before your eyes. And then you'll be tortured.
(Emphesis Get Your War On's)
This is from a strip published April 6th 2006.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 21:50:39
Raine on 11/26/2008 21:50:39
Dunno if anyone is around but there are MAJOR happening in India Right now... world is that there have been coordinated attacks around the world.
The Taj Hotel is burning, A hospital has been taken Hostage, terrorists have hijacked a police car... things are VERY VERY bad right now in India..
The Taj Hotel is burning, A hospital has been taken Hostage, terrorists have hijacked a police car... things are VERY VERY bad right now in India..
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 21:51:28
Raine on 11/26/2008 21:51:28
Mumbai's anti-terror chief killed in attacks. Terrorists have hijacked a police vehicle. Gunfire exchanged. Fires and explosions @ Taj hotel
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 21:56:30
Raine on 11/26/2008 21:56:30
Ther ehas been another explosion at the Taj, Gunfire is continuing on the streets of Mubai.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 21:57:47
now that is Change I can believe in
!
Raine on 11/26/2008 21:57:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Justice prevails! Charges dropped.
Judge: Mr Mondo, I see you had you license reinstated the day after you received the ticket, is that correct?
Me: Yes your honor.
Judge: Did you have to pay a reinstatement fee?
Me: No, your honor.
Judge: Okay, the charges are dropped (Aside to the ASA).
Me: Thank you, Your Honor.
Baliff: Happy Thanksgiving.
And....scene! :bow:
now that is Change I can believe in!
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 21:58:08
Raine on 11/26/2008 21:58:08
mumbai Indiatimes reporting attacks took place at Santa Cruz airport as well as Oberoi, Taj, VT, etc. Almost 1000 casualties.(not all dead)
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:01:10
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:01:10
Unconfirmed reports of Hostages running from the Taj...
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:01:52
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:01:52
Chairman of Hindustan Unilever, CEO of Nitin Paranjpe among those trapped by terrorists in Mumbai's Oberoi hotel.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:02:51
Wow... talk about prophetic, Huh?
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:02:51
Quote by Random:
Random has a long strenious story, that would likely bore the crap out of you before it gets to it's point...so here's the short version.
I like Get Your War On. You should go out and read some Get Your War On. On that note, i found a strangley prophetic panel of Get Your War On.
Standing guy on phone:You know, if you pay attention between now and 2008, you'll actually be able to see McCain turn into a complete fucking joke before your eyes. And then you'll be tortured.
(Emphesis Get Your War On's)
This is from a strip published April 6th 2006.
Comment by Random on 11/26/2008 22:04:07
Just a bit...
Random on 11/26/2008 22:04:07
Quote by Raine:Wow... talk about prophetic, Huh?Quote by Random:
Random has a long strenious story, that would likely bore the crap out of you before it gets to it's point...so here's the short version.
I like Get Your War On. You should go out and read some Get Your War On. On that note, i found a strangley prophetic panel of Get Your War On.
Standing guy on phone:You know, if you pay attention between now and 2008, you'll actually be able to see McCain turn into a complete fucking joke before your eyes. And then you'll be tortured.
(Emphesis Get Your War On's)
This is from a strip published April 6th 2006.
Just a bit...
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:08:03
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:08:03
Firefighters have arrived at the Taj Hotel.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:11:48
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:11:48
people still trapped at the burning 5th floor
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:16:03
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:16:03
This has been a VERY organzied coordinated attack on the City of Mubai... Theatres, hotels and hospitals have all been under attack. There is still shooting occuring.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:17:25
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:17:25
5 bombs have exploded at the Taj Hotel.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:32:09
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:32:09
Two terrorists have been killed inside the Taj Hotel and two others are still baricaded inside...
Gunfire is still taking place, and it looks like there is another attack at a place called the Cordoba. Not sure if it is a hotel or a club.
Gunfire is still taking place, and it looks like there is another attack at a place called the Cordoba. Not sure if it is a hotel or a club.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 22:48:04
Raine on 11/26/2008 22:48:04
The Trident Hotel also appears to have been attacked.
Comment by Raine on 11/26/2008 23:17:55
Raine on 11/26/2008 23:17:55
The hostage situations at the Taj and Oberoi Hotels is not yet under control, CNN reports; new fire also breaks out at Taj Hotel.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 23:38:56
Mondobubba on 11/26/2008 23:38:56
Thought I heard something about Kashmiri separatists. Hmmm that would mean our Ally In The War On Terror, Pakistan most likely has its fingerprints all over this.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 00:12:16
Raine on 11/27/2008 00:12:16
Barack Obama actually made a statement about these attacks beofre pResident Bush.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 00:17:12
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 00:17:12
What does "plausible, but unsubstantiated" mean. I'll tell ya. It means boo! Ya still need to scared of the boogy man! Boogy man's gonna jump out of the closet unless you give up civil rights. They got nuttin. The last dying gasp of the fear regime.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 00:19:25
It takes a while to get Bush cleared up after he soils himself and then has temper tantrum rolling around on Ruggie. Cause he made a mess in his big boy clothes.
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 00:19:25
Quote by Raine:
Barack Obama actually made a statement about these attacks beofre pResident Bush.
Just saying.
It takes a while to get Bush cleared up after he soils himself and then has temper tantrum rolling around on Ruggie. Cause he made a mess in his big boy clothes.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 01:07:46
Raine on 11/27/2008 01:07:46
10 Pm tonite... Babwa WaWa interviewing Michel andPE Obama (ABC)
Should be great.
Should be great.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:08:26
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:08:26
Bush pardons a turkey.
Obama has a press conference, says change starts with him. The he Michelle and the kids go to a food bank and help handing out food.
Damn.
Obama has a press conference, says change starts with him. The he Michelle and the kids go to a food bank and help handing out food.
Damn.
Comment by Random on 11/27/2008 01:28:14
...Okay, that's stupid. Obama, you've got shit piled on Shit, start working bastard, i don't care about the community Service.
Random on 11/27/2008 01:28:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bush pardons a turkey.
Obama has a press conference, says change starts with him. The he Michelle and the kids go to a food bank and help handing out food.
Damn.
...Okay, that's stupid. Obama, you've got shit piled on Shit, start working bastard, i don't care about the community Service.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:45:29
:modbat: Back off there Bucky, he was teaching the kids about privilege requires responsibility and giving back.
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:45:29
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Bush pardons a turkey.
Obama has a press conference, says change starts with him. The he Michelle and the kids go to a food bank and help handing out food.
Damn.
...Okay, that's stupid. Obama, you've got shit piled on Shit, start working bastard, i don't care about the community Service.
:modbat: Back off there Bucky, he was teaching the kids about privilege requires responsibility and giving back.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/27/2008 01:47:23
Scoopster on 11/27/2008 01:47:23
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 01:49:07
Raine on 11/27/2008 01:49:07
Psst.. Random is back to saying Random things...
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 01:49:47
SWEET!
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
Raine on 11/27/2008 01:49:47
Quote by Scoopster:
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:51:07
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:51:07
Wow the NYT Worst Person!
Comment by Scoopster on 11/27/2008 01:54:09
I was gonna set up to listen to Malloy tonight over the built-in wifi thingy but her wifi is encrypted! :lol:
Scoopster on 11/27/2008 01:54:09
Quote by Raine:SWEET!Quote by Scoopster:
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
I was gonna set up to listen to Malloy tonight over the built-in wifi thingy but her wifi is encrypted! :lol:
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:54:50
I keep forgetting that! Confounded again! :shakes fist at Random, buttons up cardigan:
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:54:50
Quote by Raine:
Psst.. Random is back to saying Random things...
I keep forgetting that! Confounded again! :shakes fist at Random, buttons up cardigan:
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:57:24
What she doesn't have the WEP key or the password??
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 01:57:24
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:SWEET!Quote by Scoopster:
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
I was gonna set up to listen to Malloy tonight over the built-in wifi thingy but her wifi is encrypted! :lol:
What she doesn't have the WEP key or the password??
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:01:25
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:01:25
Hmmm Los Mythbusteros is a repeat. Back to Rachel.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/27/2008 02:01:32
Oh good lord no.. this is my mom we're talkin about I had to teach her how to use Lotus 123 back when I was in 3rd grade..
Scoopster on 11/27/2008 02:01:32
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:SWEET!Quote by Scoopster:
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
I was gonna set up to listen to Malloy tonight over the built-in wifi thingy but her wifi is encrypted! :lol:
What she doesn't have the WEP key or the password??
Oh good lord no.. this is my mom we're talkin about I had to teach her how to use Lotus 123 back when I was in 3rd grade..
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:13:00
I still have mine stashed in the secure location no where near my computers.
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:13:00
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:SWEET!Quote by Scoopster:
Evening folks! Well the trip to Hartford was rather uneventful..
Different story when I got here tho.. moms got me an iPod Touch! :O
Momma Scoop is rockn!!!
I was gonna set up to listen to Malloy tonight over the built-in wifi thingy but her wifi is encrypted! :lol:
What she doesn't have the WEP key or the password??
Oh good lord no.. this is my mom we're talkin about I had to teach her how to use Lotus 123 back when I was in 3rd grade..
I still have mine stashed in the secure location no where near my computers.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:13:54
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:13:54
getting back to where things need to be, Momma Scoop, you rock!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:24:05
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:24:05
Ana Marie Cox is rather good-looking. Cheek bones for days.
Comment by TriSec on 11/27/2008 02:31:34
TriSec on 11/27/2008 02:31:34
Evening, folks! Last pie in the oven!
A word about the attacks in India...
The doctor that Mrs. TriSec works for has family back in Mumbai. Her sister was on the phone today when the attacks were in-progress...there was shooting to be heard in the background, and the doctor's family reported at the time that there were also apartment buildings under attack...
Mr. Obama said that we only have one president at a time...so who's acting more presidential these days?
A word about the attacks in India...
The doctor that Mrs. TriSec works for has family back in Mumbai. Her sister was on the phone today when the attacks were in-progress...there was shooting to be heard in the background, and the doctor's family reported at the time that there were also apartment buildings under attack...
Mr. Obama said that we only have one president at a time...so who's acting more presidential these days?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:37:41
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:37:41
Bush hasn't looked presidential um EVER!
Comment by Random on 11/27/2008 02:39:18
Actually...I was serious about that one O.o.
Good lessons aside, Everything is going to shit, and he's the only one who has a clue what to do.
Think of it this way. It's good the Bush Exercises, and rides his bike, and reads to children, it sets a decent example of keep in shape. but the bastard lets it take precedence over everything else going on. It's good that he's doing it, but now is neither the time nor the place.
Random on 11/27/2008 02:39:18
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Psst.. Random is back to saying Random things...
I keep forgetting that! Confounded again! :shakes fist at Random, buttons up cardigan:
Actually...I was serious about that one O.o.
Good lessons aside, Everything is going to shit, and he's the only one who has a clue what to do.
Think of it this way. It's good the Bush Exercises, and rides his bike, and reads to children, it sets a decent example of keep in shape. but the bastard lets it take precedence over everything else going on. It's good that he's doing it, but now is neither the time nor the place.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 02:46:44
I hope the family is OK...
This was a city under siege today.
Raine on 11/27/2008 02:46:44
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks! Last pie in the oven!
A word about the attacks in India...
The doctor that Mrs. TriSec works for has family back in Mumbai. Her sister was on the phone today when the attacks were in-progress...there was shooting to be heard in the background, and the doctor's family reported at the time that there were also apartment buildings under attack...
Mr. Obama said that we only have one president at a time...so who's acting more presidential these days?
This was a city under siege today.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 02:49:59
Raine on 11/27/2008 02:49:59
1 hour ago: Five terrorists have taken 5 Jewish families hostage near the petrol station that exploded several hours ago in Colaba, Mumbai - TTKN News.
No news since...
No news since...
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 02:50:50
Raine on 11/27/2008 02:50:50
OMG Rach doing a rundown of the Bush Admin personell scandals...
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 02:51:19
Raine on 11/27/2008 02:51:19
Dusty Faggo!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:51:51
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:51:51
This list o' scandals Rachel is doing, breath taking! Wow!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:52:38
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:52:38
Raine! Outta my head! : 
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:53:10
Best name ever!
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 02:53:10
Quote by Raine:
Dusty Faggo!!!
Best name ever!
Comment by Random on 11/27/2008 03:00:02
Random on 11/27/2008 03:00:02
Does anyone ever wonder If I'm just here to stoke the fires of hatred and animosity?
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:12:10
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:12:10
10 minutes i and this interview is great. Turn on ABC.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:14:47
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:14:47
A new, huge plume of black smoke is rising from the Taj Hotel in Mumbai; hostage situation still unfolding after many hours.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:15:24
IF that is your job, you are failing, my loverly.
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:15:24
Quote by Random:
Does anyone ever wonder If I'm just here to stoke the fires of hatred and animosity?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:17:04
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:17:04
As much as I dislike The Closeted, In Denial Scientologist, Tom Cruise, the under card for "Valkyrie" has much to like. Terrence Stamp, Kenneth Branagh, Eddie Izzard, my favorite Harvey Friedman ( I know nothing about him as an actor) as Joesph Goebbels.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:17:37
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:17:37
Damn... Barack made it clear that the Change is HIm... no matter WHO he picks... meaning that these people are charged with making his platform a reality.
Yes, we elected the right man.
Yes, we elected the right man.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:18:18
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:18:18
Random... have I mentioned how dear you are to me?
:hug:
:hug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:18:30
Sorry gotta watch my Biker Hamlet aka Sons of Anarchy.
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:18:30
Quote by Raine:
10 minutes i and this interview is great. Turn on ABC.
Sorry gotta watch my Biker Hamlet aka Sons of Anarchy.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:21:11
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:21:11
We elected an amzing man to be president.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:22:01
I love that line. It says I'm in charge, they report to me, there will be change.
Mondobubba on 11/27/2008 03:22:01
Quote by Raine:
Damn... Barack made it clear that the Change is HIm... no matter WHO he picks... meaning that these people are charged with making his platform a reality.
Yes, we elected the right man.
I love that line. It says I'm in charge, they report to me, there will be change.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:50:50
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:50:50
:thud: 60 people at the Obama house for thanksgiving?
Whoa.
Whoa.
Comment by Raine on 11/27/2008 03:58:13
Raine on 11/27/2008 03:58:13
:rofl: the girls are gonna Scoop. The. Poop. OMg...
I love this family!
I love this family!
Comment by Random on 11/27/2008 05:09:00
Yes, and it makes me horribly uncomfortable.
Random on 11/27/2008 05:09:00
Quote by Raine:
Random... have I mentioned how dear you are to me?
:hug:
Yes, and it makes me horribly uncomfortable.
Comment by Random on 11/27/2008 05:10:33
As much as you never want to hear from Tom Cruise, doesn't change the fact that he is still a good actor. Which is creepy, in sooooo many ways.
Random on 11/27/2008 05:10:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
As much as I dislike The Closeted, In Denial Scientologist, Tom Cruise, the under card for "Valkyrie" has much to like. Terrence Stamp, Kenneth Branagh, Eddie Izzard, my favorite Harvey Friedman ( I know nothing about him as an actor) as Joesph Goebbels.
As much as you never want to hear from Tom Cruise, doesn't change the fact that he is still a good actor. Which is creepy, in sooooo many ways.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/27/2008 13:22:14
Scoopster on 11/27/2008 13:22:14
Despite his wacky religious antics, Mr. Cruise does manage to make some decent cinema now and again.