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Batteries not included...
Author: BobR    Date: 11/07/2007 12:57:29

The introduction of the Cheney impeachment resolution yesterday got me thinking about the American people. We are not so different from people the world over - we all want fairness. We want fairness when we go to the market... We are willing to pay a fair price for a good product, and know that if we go for cheap, we often end up with cheap disposable crap. However, if we go for the good stuff and we don't get what we paid for, we feel cheated and get angry.

In Nov 2006, the voting public went to the polls and kicked out the Republicans in impressive numbers. We were told (and sold) on the idea that the Democratic product was different... better, than the Republican product. The Democrats were coming to town, kicking ass and taking names. The war was going to be over, and a new day was dawning in DC...

Except - that didn't happen.

What we got was more of the same talk, and nothing to back it up. We got a used-car salesman telling us that the rusty hole in the roof was a sunroof. We opened the package to find out that the batteries weren't included (nor spines, apparently).

The kicker was the Democratic house leadership trying to kill a well-deserved impeachment resolution for a vice-president with approval ratings in the single-digits. The rationale? There are more important matters at hand. I wonder what matters those might be? Giving Bush everything he requests for the occupation of Iraq? Failing to override the SCHIP veto? Americans are pissed and we have an extremely low opinion of Congress to prove it.

So what do people do when they feel they've been cheated? They demand a refund. How does that work in politics? Two ways:

1) They vote for someone else.
2) They try to get their money back.

Hmm... Okay - so how does #2 work? The phrase that I keep overhearing people mentioning is "Fair Tax". :thud:

Like a Perfect Storm, there is a convergence of things that could be very dangerous for the Left come November 2008. First, the aforementioned dissatisfaction with politicians. Second, is the Republican tactic of putting referendums on the ballot to draw "their kind of" voters to the poll. Third, is the appeal of the idea of the Fair Tax.

There is a strong push to put the Fair Tax up as referendum all across the country. Of course, the referendum means nothing. The IRS and the income tax will never be replaced by a consumption tax. But it WILL draw disaffected voters to the polls, and they are likely to vote for Republicans. Meanwhile, pissed off Democrats will stay home or vote 3rd party. The end-result is all too frightening.

Therefore, it is incumbent on all of us to learn about the holes in the Fair Tax so that its easy to explain why the math doesn't work, and why "taking home all of your pay" disguises the truth that you won't have increased spending power. This article explains pretty simply how taking money out of the left hand pocket and putting it in the right doesn't mean you end up with more money in your pockets.

Keep an eye out for this - like the Gay Ammendment referendum in 2004, it could be the stealth tactic to swing the vote to the right.

 

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Comment by BobR on 11/07/2007 13:26:28
Morning, folks... :coffee:



In the process of adding some new emoticons this morning I had a little drama. Therefore - some of the shortcuts may have changed. Please let me know if you run into that, and I will change them back to what they were.



Anyway - the new icons:

bringiton :bringiton:

bump :bump:

nerd :nerd:

boygirlkiss :boygirlkiss:

boyboykiss :boyboykiss:

girlgirlkiss :girlgirlkiss:



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 14:01:02


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:24:45
Good morning!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:31:31
WHA? Bindees has a date rape drug in it?!?!?! Anyone else just hear the news????

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:39:02
Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 14:40:32
Quote by BobR:

Morning, folks... :coffee:



In the process of adding some new emoticons this morning I had a little drama. Therefore - some of the shortcuts may have changed. Please let me know if you run into that, and I will change them back to what they were.



Anyway - the new icons:

bringiton :bringiton:

bump :bump:

nerd :nerd:

boygirlkiss :boygirlkiss:

boyboykiss :boyboykiss:

girlgirlkiss :girlgirlkiss:







OMG The Nerd emoticon!!!

Was that in response to my BookWorm request? I'm giddy!



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 14:42:52
Shingleton in Landslide!







I couldn't vote because there was an accident on the highway and I was literally trapped between exits until after the polls closed.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:46:08
we are lousy crazy with emoticons!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:46:09
we are lousy crazy with emoticons!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 14:47:02
: monica geller : iiii KNOW! I emoticons.



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 14:47:03
Quote by Raine:

WHA? Bindees has a date rape drug in it?!?!?! Anyone else just hear the news????




Saw that this morning. 'tis Australia; no word on whether said toys have reached our shores.







Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 14:48:12
Wait a second, I just saw your post on the MB, Raine.



Those are aqua-dots. Javier has hundreds of them.





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:49:10
Good news Starling! Kentucky has a new dem governor and the Virginia state senate now has a democratic majority....

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 14:49:20
Route 9 Closes

And...this would be why I couldn't vote.



SON OF A!



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 14:50:12
Quote by Raine:

Good news Starling! Kentucky has a new dem governor and the Virginia state senate now has a democratic majority....




Kentucky with a Democratic Governor? Bizarre!

Way to go Kentucky!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:50:15
Quote by TriSec: Wait a second, I just saw your post on the MB, Raine. Those are aqua-dots. Javier has hundreds of them.
That was why I posted the picture... I can't imagine the USA not having an equivelant of them over here.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 14:51:40
Good morning all.



It's always a party with emoticons.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:52:17
Quote by starling310: Route 9 Closes And...this would be why I couldn't vote. SON OF A!
That really sucks starling...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 14:53:20
Oh chortle chortle.... Rudy is so funny.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 14:53:40
Quote by starling310:

Route 9 Closes

And...this would be why I couldn't vote.



SON OF A!



That sucks. Nothing like that better happen next year.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 14:54:22
Quote by Raine:

Oh chortle chortle.... Rudy is so funny.


Between that and Sean's Clinton bit. I think I need some of this.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 14:57:03
Since Pat Robertson wants the apocalypse, maybe he thinks Rudy will best bring it about since he will continue Bush's war policy.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 14:59:06
I was on the same wavelength as Steph with that last comment.

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 14:59:42
Ok, this is personal now.



I emailed Sen. Kennedy a few weeks back after the Cub Scout badge story broke. Now we can't play with aqua-dots anymore either. (never mind Thomas the lead-encrusted tank engine).



Who do I call now? The good Senator sent me a canned response; maybe I'll bug his office every day until there's some kind of action.





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:00:47
Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:02:29
Quote by TriSec: Ok, this is personal now. I emailed Sen. Kennedy a few weeks back after the Cub Scout badge story broke. Now we can't play with aqua-dots anymore either. (never mind Thomas the lead-encrusted tank engine). Who do I call now? The good Senator sent me a canned response; maybe I'll bug his office every day until there's some kind of action.
you could always call Nancy Nord...

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:05:12
My cable system added CNNHD this morning.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:09:57
3WT Adds Stephanie Miller - 11/7 - Lefty talker Stephanie Miller (left) debuts on Bonneville talker 3WT today. She'll air from 7 PM to 9 PM, in a spot that had been temporary occupied by local talker Victoria Jones. The nationally-syndicated Miller is a comedienne and daughter of former Republican Congressman William Miller, Barry Goldwater's running mate in the 1964 presidential election. She's hosted local radio shows on LA's KABC and KFI, and is a former co-host of CNBC's "Equal Time." She also hosted the "I've Got A Secret" game show on the Oxygen cable TV channel. Miller had been heard on Clear Channel talker WWRC, Progressive Talk 1260.....



And Progressive Talk 1260 took her off and put on stupid Lionel!!!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:10:06
Momma's an A- cup.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:10:20
Morning btw :hug:

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:11:13
Man, the coffee is so not working this morning!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:12:45
Quote by wickedpam:

3WT Adds Stephanie Miller - 11/7 - Lefty talker Stephanie Miller (left) debuts on Bonneville talker 3WT today. She'll air from 7 PM to 9 PM, in a spot that had been temporary occupied by local talker Victoria Jones. The nationally-syndicated Miller is a comedienne and daughter of former Republican Congressman William Miller, Barry Goldwater's running mate in the 1964 presidential election. She's hosted local radio shows on LA's KABC and KFI, and is a former co-host of CNBC's "Equal Time." She also hosted the "I've Got A Secret" game show on the Oxygen cable TV channel. Miller had been heard on Clear Channel talker WWRC, Progressive Talk 1260.....



And Progressive Talk 1260 took her off and put on stupid Lionel!!!!!!


That's what we have here in New York. We still can't get Momma here and on Sirius she's not on until 6 PM.



So, besides Thom Hartmann, there's not much left on 1260 unless they still air Rachel in the wee hours.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:13:14
Good morning Mala! Yeah, I gotta say, lionel really is a snoozer for me.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:14:10
HEya, here in Atl, there is NO ONE who is progressive on any radio station...

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 15:14:33
We've been without progressive radio in Boston since Clear Channel flipped ours to Latin music a few months back.



But, at least we have rum!





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:16:11
Larry King is havign a pretty crappy week, first Jerry and now the insurance issues...

Comment by BobR on 11/07/2007 15:16:31


excellent use of aliteration!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:16:50
Ugh...it's so backwards. Don't insure the people who need it the most.



I know this story is slightly in jest as it's about Larry King.



But, seriously!





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:17:27
Quote by TriSec: We've been without progressive radio in Boston since Clear Channel flipped ours to Latin music a few months back. But, at least we have rum!
Which goes well with the latin music!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:17:44
Quote by TriSec:

We've been without progressive radio in Boston since Clear Channel flipped ours to Latin music a few months back.



But, at least we have rum!





Rum is for dancing. Rum is for fun.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:19:41
ok caller.... Someone give him the participation ribbob...

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:19:42
Listener humor. : crickets :



Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:20:27
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

3WT Adds Stephanie Miller - 11/7 - Lefty talker Stephanie Miller (left) debuts on Bonneville talker 3WT today. She'll air from 7 PM to 9 PM, in a spot that had been temporary occupied by local talker Victoria Jones. The nationally-syndicated Miller is a comedienne and daughter of former Republican Congressman William Miller, Barry Goldwater's running mate in the 1964 presidential election. She's hosted local radio shows on LA's KABC and KFI, and is a former co-host of CNBC's "Equal Time." She also hosted the "I've Got A Secret" game show on the Oxygen cable TV channel. Miller had been heard on Clear Channel talker WWRC, Progressive Talk 1260.....



And Progressive Talk 1260 took her off and put on stupid Lionel!!!!!!


That's what we have here in New York. We still can't get Momma here and on Sirius she's not on until 6 PM.



So, besides Thom Hartmann, there's not much left on 1260 unless they still air Rachel in the wee hours.




Everything it time delayed expect Bill Press, Lionel and Ed so there's no point to listen to 1260 anymore cause I can't get the shows I like when I drive.



I wouldn't mind the move if 3WT was playing the show in the morning live instead of tape delayed at 7pm after the butchering they do to Randi.



Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:21:30
Oh And -



Democrats Win Control of Virginia Senate



First time in 12 years baby!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:24:24
Quote by wickedpam:



Everything it time delayed expect Bill Press, Lionel and Ed so there's no point to listen to 1260 anymore cause I can't get the shows I like when I drive.



I wouldn't mind the move if 3WT was playing the show in the morning live instead of tape delayed at 7pm after the butchering they do to Randi.







Do they have that crappy Glenn Beck show in the morning or some other right-wing tool?

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:25:31
No Tony Kornheiser

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:25:40
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg
For MGM!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:27:39




My friend is celebrating a birthday today....so, there is lots of treats around.





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:27:45
Quote by starling310: Listener humor. : crickets :
::: crickets :::

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:30:46
Quote by Raine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg


For MGM!




That was MGM?



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 15:32:07
I missed MGM?



Poop.



:kickcan:



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 15:33:49
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg


For MGM!




That was MGM?



The joke is posted on the other blog.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:35:58
litter?? Wow, caller with the fun facts™

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:39:04
Quote by livingonli:

The joke is posted on the other blog.




Was it his Kucinich/Gnome joke?

If so, it explains why MGM is my Blog Crush. He read my thought bubble!



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:40:10
Awww, poor lil caller... HE gets a participation ribbon too...

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:40:13
: callers this morning :

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:40:55
Quote by starling310:
Quote by livingonli: The joke is posted on the other blog.
Was it his Kucinich/Gnome joke? If so, it explains why MGM is my Blog Crush. He read my thought bubble!
I mgm.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:41:22
Nice reprenstation of the other side.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:41:40
OH my ghod... this is like a slow motion crash....

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:42:08
but, but, but, I thought Faux news said they started the forrest fire in Ca

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:42:32
There are plenty of WACKOS in this country who could "drop off" a dirty bomb.



:rofl: : the steve martin drop :

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:43:45
Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:44:45
"Someone left a sponge in his head!"









Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 15:45:27
:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:46:52
Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:47:16
Quote by Raine:

This is for Rodney....








Billy Madison drop!



YAY RAINE!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:48:21




I think this is her trump card. I honestly think she is trying to get Musharaf to back down.



Ya know what? YOU GO GIRL!

I am glad she's not afraid of this bully.



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:50:41
Forget it he's rolling...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:53:46
Rodney did NOT do his homework!!!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 15:55:32
Two rules in "Performance:"



1) Know your audience.

2) Be PREPARED!



Get it together Rodney.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 15:58:10
Rodney sounded a little less smart than a Squidbilly! Do not touch the Treeuhm!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:01:45
Quote by starling310:

Quote by livingonli:

The joke is posted on the other blog.




Was it his Kucinich/Gnome joke?

If so, it explains why MGM is my Blog Crush. He read my thought bubble!



Yep, that's the one.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:03:25


"O O O The big big O. i] ----> " Overstock dot c-" ---->





: blessed silence :

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:07:07
So, when Rodney was born, I guess the doctor dropped him on his head repeatedly.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:07:40
Actually I think Rodney looks like this guy....


Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2007 16:09:56
I like gnome humor - it's cute.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:11:42
Hey wasn't this a movie called Dumbo drop starring Dennis Leary?

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:11:47
Drink organic wine. . . they tend to not have sulfites!





Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:13:05
It's pig fun facts.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:14:23
Barbara Walters? Sounds supiciously like Kim Jong Il!



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:14:28
Jim BababWawa sounds a little like der leader kim

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:15:03
:beer: !!! mindmeld :foil:

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:15:16


Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:16:23
Quote by starling310:



He doesn't want to dance either just like

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:18:25
When 3 organs is not enough.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:21:26
The Director of the show I am in lived in Chicago for about 10 years in his twenties. Some of that time, he was Stephen Colbert's roommate with a few other out of work actors.



He says Stephen is extremely smart!

My point is he might actually be able to run a country.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:26:40
Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:28:47
And yet, we still have people like Rodney out there in this world...

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:28:52
Bush actually makes me nostalgic for Nixon.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:29:04
Hey, if you can't be the Best, be the Best at being the Worst!





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:29:38
Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:30:59
you know, I would LOOOOOOve it if Stephen Colbert would hook up with Goldwater Miller '08. He would make the PERFECT press secretary!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:31:24
Quote by Raine:

Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...




I said DANCE!









Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:35:04
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...
I said DANCE!
:kitty:

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:35:05
Why is this being spun as a loss? If we get on Conyers ass, maybe they will actually let it out of committee!



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:35:28
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...




I said DANCE!







:kitty:









Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:35:55
Quote by starling310: Why is this being spun as a loss? If we get on Conyers ass, maybe they will actually let it out of committee!
I posted the names of all the committee members on the MB for people to call...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:40:20
I want Richardson to be our energy chairperson!!!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:40:41
I'm for Green Jeans, too!





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:41:41
I work from home 1 day a week to save on driving!!!!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:41:42
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...
I said DANCE!
:kitty:
yeah, that one didn't work... I guessI was trying to show the caring that a cat sometimes can when you command it to do something...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:42:38
I decided to not have a car when I moved to Atlanta!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:43:11
Hey, did I just hear Richardson breathing heavily when Momma was talking?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:43:54
And momma flips again!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:45:01
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Sometimes the dances and sometimes it doesn't... it is really very strange...




I said DANCE!







:kitty:









yeah, that one didn't work... I guessI was trying to show the caring that a cat sometimes can when you command it to do something...




*buzzer* You're in the penalty box with Rodney!





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:46:12
I wish I didn't need a car.



Public transport in CT SUCKS! I am 25 miles from work because I work in a wealthy area of the state and can't afford to buy there.





1 more reason to make that leap to Chicago.



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:46:24
Quote by starling310:

I work from home 1 day a week to save on driving!!!!


I wish I could do that somedays. More and more, I wish I had a job in the city so I wouldn't have to drive.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 16:48:54
CNN is reporting on a school shooting in Finland.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:49:57
PEOPLE MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST CALL!!!!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:50:10
Chris Chris Chris

So defeatist.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:51:06
Bobber! Thank you Thank you for the emoticon!





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:52:07
Quote by starling310: *buzzer* You're in the penalty box with Rodney!
Yeah, I deserved that penalty.... I broke the rule. I was not prepared. bad raine, no bisquick...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:53:11
That voting was totally crazy yesterday.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 16:54:09
Quote by starling310: I wish I didn't need a car. Public transport in CT SUCKS! I am 25 miles from work because I work in a wealthy area of the state and can't afford to buy there. 1 more reason to make that leap to Chicago.
you would love livign there!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:54:48
YAY Buddy! Good job.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:58:05
Is today "Call from a Hallway Day?!?!" Bill Richardson too sounded like he was in a stairwell.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 16:59:22
OVERSTOCK DOT COM!!! Did you not learn your lesson last time?!?!?



:modbat:

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 17:00:57
Quote by starling310:

Is today "Call from a Hallway Day?!?!" Bill Richardson too sounded like he was in a stairwell.



Either that or they are using tin cans for phones.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 17:01:47
Quote by starling310:

OVERSTOCK DOT COM!!! Did you not learn your lesson last time?!?!?



:modbat:


I don't get those spots on the Steph stream.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 17:02:12
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

OVERSTOCK DOT COM!!! Did you not learn your lesson last time?!?!?



:modbat:


I don't get those spots on the Steph stream.




You're luckY!



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 17:10:17
http://friendsofdeserthotsprings.com/images/dumptruck3large400pixels.jpg




:thud:



Comment by BobR on 11/07/2007 17:17:54
Quote by starling310:

Bobber! Thank you Thank you for the emoticon!





At your service! ;)

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 17:18:09
So, now Momma is competing directly with Randi in some markets.





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:20:23
Quote by starling310:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by starling310: OVERSTOCK DOT COM!!! Did you not learn your lesson last time?!?!? :modbat:
I don't get those spots on the Steph stream.
You're luckY!
I am currently listening the the West Valley 2 men and a truck company... they are converting to Biodeisal... And it should 2 woman who could kick your ass and a truck!!! (actually I would hire these folks if I lived in pheonix...)

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:21:28
Quote by starling310: So, now Momma is competing directly with Randi in some markets.
That is a pretty stupid move.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:21:53
I think I need a smoke.... :D

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 17:24:23


Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 17:36:09
Richard Belzer!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:43:38
Quote by TriSec: Wait a second, I just saw your post on the MB, Raine. Those are aqua-dots. Javier has hundreds of them.
Just did some research... they ARE exactly the same product, Tri please make sure that this goes up where javi cannot reach them until the toy gets the ALL CLEAR here in the USA. I believe that ToyR Us may have pulled this from the online ordering . The product is not available: Toys are Us search.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 17:45:06
Huh...aren't these Right Wing Tools usually "all for" State's Rights?

I guess it is dependent on whether it works in their favor.

Surprise. Surprise.



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 17:53:42
Quote by starling310:

Huh...aren't these Right Wing Tools usually "all for" State's Rights?

I guess it is dependent on whether it works in their favor.

Surprise. Surprise.



Like the Supreme Court's pro-states rights vote in Bush v. Gore in 2000 when they selected Bush?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:56:45
Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 17:58:02
Quote by starling310: Huh...aren't these Right Wing Tools usually "all for" State's Rights? I guess it is dependent on whether it works in their favor. Surprise. Surprise.
And when that doesn't work, you will hear the old "it's my money and I don't think the governemtn should spend it" IT is just crazy.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 18:00:27
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Huh...aren't these Right Wing Tools usually "all for" State's Rights?

I guess it is dependent on whether it works in their favor.

Surprise. Surprise.

And when that doesn't work, you will hear the old "it's my money and I don't think the governemtn should spend it"



IT is just crazy.











yep...we need a flip flop emoticon!



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 18:01:06
OK I will be back in a few. Want to get back before Dennisa is on thomm... BTW... I posted a video on the MB f Dennis on Tucker! ::jazz hands, spirit fingers:: Dennis did very good considering he was talking to a condescending Santorumonious fool. See you in a few! and

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 18:08:54
House of Representatives RuleXI, Section 1, b(1): Each committee may conduct at any time such investigations and studies as it considers necessary or appropriate in the exercise of it's responsibilities under rule X.




So...the Judiciary Committee can bring up Impeachment whenever they want.



( i think. . . )

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 18:26:58




I have so much debt. . . if we go into a depression, I am screwed. Literally, screwed.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 18:50:07
Thom's show is scaring me today.



My only solace is that I have really good friends who'd never let me drown.

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 18:55:17
Ah, I've just sent a blanket email to my entire Cub Scout pack. If Javi has aqua-dots, then obviously many of my scouts will as well.



Can't have the kids licking the lead off their toys, eating date-rape drug beads, and getting into trouble with the Girl Scouts now, can we?







Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 18:56:30
Quote by starling310:





I have so much debt. . . if we go into a depression, I am screwed. Literally, screwed.





We've just had to dip into our retirement funds for the second time in the past 2 years. I wonder how many other Americans have done so?



They'll have to carry me out of the office feet-first at this rate...none of us will be able to afford to 'retire'.







Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 18:59:24
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by starling310:





I have so much debt. . . if we go into a depression, I am screwed. Literally, screwed.





We've just had to dip into our retirement funds for the second time in the past 2 years. I wonder how many other Americans have done so?



They'll have to carry me out of the office feet-first at this rate...none of us will be able to afford to 'retire'.









I've got enough sitting in my 401K to pay off all of my debt.

But, then I am stuck here until it's paid back.

I don't know what to do!





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:10:35
Yes, it's definitely "Call from the nearest stairwell" day.





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:13:27
:: dennis kucinich :: "John Conyers indicated a willingness to hold hearings.





Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:19:04
Quote by starling310:





I have so much debt. . . if we go into a depression, I am screwed. Literally, screwed.



Join the club. If I end up being out of work again, I am screwed that way as well.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:20:10
Dennis Kucinich has requested that people go to his site and post about comment about the Impeach Cheney Resolution.



He will then hand deliver those to Committee.





Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:20:21
I flip on the AAR stream and it's Viva Viagra.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:27:41
hey all! Did I miss Dennis?

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:28:17
Quote by Raine:

hey all! Did I miss Dennis?


I know I did.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:28:51
Wow It sounds like it was a great interview! On my way to the linky ! Thanks!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:29:23
For some guests, Thom really needs to do more than one segment like the Naomi Wolf interview the other day.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:33:11
Quote by Raine:

Wow It sounds like it was a great interview! On my way to the linky ! Thanks!




The link doesn't seem like a good one. I don't see a place to sign a petition. But, that's the one he gave. I'll have to spend more time with it later.



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:35:53
Yeah, I saw that... harumph!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:39:50
WE have been doing as much of those things that we can.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:41:19
Quote by Raine:

WE have been doing as much of those things that we can.




Yeah...

Hey! Get out of debt.

Oh...Okay, yeah, I'll get right on that.



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:43:56
FBI tracks terrorists through falafel sales.



I guess this means Bill-O could be in trouble now. Will he get to experience the pleasure of waterboarding first hand?

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:47:16


Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:47:25


Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:47:32


Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:51:38
What's the matter, ?

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:51:57
Ok...I admit it! I like Rascal Flatts.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 19:52:25
Quote by livingonli:

What's the matter, ?




Thom's show today. The reality of the badness of our situation.



: shudder :



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 19:54:20
At least we got each other.



BTW, I added a request for the DJ emoticon.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:57:10
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: WE have been doing as much of those things that we can.
Yeah... Hey! Get out of debt. Oh...Okay, yeah, I'll get right on that.
I really isn't easy... we are putting off the trip to NY this year becuase of it. The gas alone would cost us over 600$!!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 19:58:43
blog

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:01:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

WE have been doing as much of those things that we can.




Yeah...

Hey! Get out of debt.

Oh...Okay, yeah, I'll get right on that.



I really isn't easy... we are putting off the trip to NY this year becuase of it. The gas alone would cost us over 600$!!






It's just that that particular advice makes me so scared. It's like I KNOW! I KNOW I should be paying it off AND I AM TRYING! But, I can't do it overnight. . . there is too much of it. Some of it I've been carrying around since college.



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 20:02:15
Me likee blog :hug:,



Must get to the salt mine.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:11:38
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: WE have been doing as much of those things that we can.
Yeah... Hey! Get out of debt. Oh...Okay, yeah, I'll get right on that.
I really isn't easy... we are putting off the trip to NY this year becuase of it. The gas alone would cost us over 600$!!
It's just that that particular advice makes me so scared. It's like I KNOW! I KNOW I should be paying it off AND I AM TRYING! But, I can't do it overnight. . . there is too much of it. Some of it I've been carrying around since college.
no one can do it over night... I am thinking that you are being too hard on yourself? And yeah it really sucks... :kickcan:...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:13:19
I am so lucky to be with a man that is as crazy about things like cspan and this country and all the flaven as I am.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:13:48
I love the newshour!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:14:01
Quote by Raine:

no one can do it over night... I am thinking that you are being too hard on yourself?





And yeah it really sucks... :kickcan:...







I should be hard on myself! There's a lot of it. And, I've got no one to blame but myself.



If I ever have kids, I will teach them about how to save. And, I will drill it into their heads that no matter how great that VISA seems on Orientation Day at XYZ university, DON'T DO IT! Pay for your text books with cash! Pay for gas in your car with CASH! Pay for pizza on a friday night with CASH! If it means you can only play 1 sport instead of 3, so that you can have a part time job, do it!!!!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:14:21
I erased your end quotes again.



Ssssthorry!



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:15:00
oooh, that woudl be amazing to see the McCarthy hearings...

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:28:57
Randi is so right!



: john conyers statement : "We are looking to pass a FISA bill in the next 2 weeks."



: randi : The president will Veto it. Waste of time!



Exactly. Sad, but true.



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:36:30
OOOh, I love that Randi is gonna do that! YES! Give a speach on impeachment!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:37:41
Quote by starling310: I erased your end quotes again. Ssssthorry!
ssawight!

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 20:40:50


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:48:49
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

no one can do it over night... I am thinking that you are being too hard on yourself?





And yeah it really sucks... :kickcan:...







I should be hard on myself! There's a lot of it. And, I've got no one to blame but myself.



If I ever have kids, I will teach them about how to save. And, I will drill it into their heads that no matter how great that VISA seems on Orientation Day at XYZ university, DON'T DO IT! Pay for your text books with cash! Pay for gas in your car with CASH! Pay for pizza on a friday night with CASH! If it means you can only play 1 sport instead of 3, so that you can have a part time job, do it!!!!
You know, That is a damn smart thing... I never had a credit card in college. Looking back on it, I guess I could have gotten one, but fir some reason, I never felt like I would have gotten approved, so I did not bother.



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:50:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:
no one can do it over night... I am thinking that you are being too hard on yourself? And yeah it really sucks... :kickcan:...
I should be hard on myself! There's a lot of it. And, I've got no one to blame but myself. If I ever have kids, I will teach them about how to save. And, I will drill it into their heads that no matter how great that VISA seems on Orientation Day at XYZ university, DON'T DO IT! Pay for your text books with cash! Pay for gas in your car with CASH! Pay for pizza on a friday night with CASH! If it means you can only play 1 sport instead of 3, so that you can have a part time job, do it!!!!
You know, That is a damn smart thing... I never had a credit card in college. Looking back on it, I guess I could have gotten one, but fir some reason, I never felt like I would have gotten approved, so I did not bother.
the quotes are acting screwy again!

Comment by BobR on 11/07/2007 20:52:15
Quote by TriSec:



Testing the quote...

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:53:57
What is that link? I was away for a minute!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:54:47
Starling, you and I are having strangeness when we quote each other... that is the strangest thing!

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:56:16
Quote by Raine:

You know, That is a damn smart thing... I never had a credit card in college. Looking back on it, I guess I could have gotten one, but fir some reason, I never felt like I would have gotten approved, so I did not bother.

the quotes are acting screwy again!





You're smart!

Comment by BobR on 11/07/2007 20:57:06
Quote by Raine:

Starling, you and I are having strangeness when we quote each other... that is the strangest thing!


It looks like ling left in an extra end-quote when she tried to get rid of the previous nested quotes.



Looks like another case of operator error... :nerd:

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:58:10
Quote by Raine:

Starling, you and I are having strangeness when we quote each other... that is the strangest thing!




It might be me. I try to delete all the back quotes and sometimes a tag gets caught in the crossfire.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 20:58:48
Quote by BobR:

It looks like ling left in an extra end-quote when she tried to get rid of the previous nested quotes.



Looks like another case of operator error... :nerd:




Nice use of THE NERD! :clap:

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 20:58:52
Naomi Klein? Cool!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:01:02
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: You know, That is a damn smart thing... I never had a credit card in college. Looking back on it, I guess I could have gotten one, but fir some reason, I never felt like I would have gotten approved, so I did not bother.
the quotes are acting screwy again!
You're smart!
I don't know if I was smart or just unlucky enough to have parents that would never bail me out of anything. So I guess thier being dirt poor actually helped mein a roundabout way...

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:01:31
So, the Shrub finally called Musharaf, huh?



Wow. . . don't hurt yourself running to phone there George.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:03:45
Quote by Raine:

I don't know if I was smart or just unlucky enough to have parents that would never bail me out of anything. So I guess thier being dirt poor actually helped mein a roundabout way...





HA! My parents are broke too. So, I don't know WHAT I was thinking.

Clearly I wasn't as much of a back then as I am now.



Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:06:39




: wwrl stream commercial for a seafood restaurant in NYC :

: muzak version of "pure imagination" from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory :





Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 21:08:40
Now playing:



I just cant believe all the things people say -- controversy

Am I black or white? am I straight or gay? -- controversy

Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? -- controversy

Controversy controversy

I cant understand human curiosity -- controversy

Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? -- controversy

Do you get high? does your daddy cry? -- controversy

Controversy controversy



Do I believe in god? do I believe in me?

Some people wanna die so they can be free

(I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play?

Controversy controversy controversy

Controversy controversy controversy



:prince:



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:10:10
THANK YOU!!!!! I have been saying this OVER and OVER and OVER... this is a crystal clear point... TORTURE is llegal.. WATERBOARDING is illegal! Damn.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:11:48
Quote by starling310: : wwrl stream commercial for a seafood restaurant in NYC : : muzak version of "pure imagination" from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory :
Wha???... Do they serve chocolate covered fried whiting on Fridays?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:13:42
the one!!! Are you bopping in your chair there tri?

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:15:08
Quote by Raine:



Wha???... Do they serve chocolate covered fried whiting on Fridays?




:lol: It's a very odd commercial.





Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 21:15:10
Quote by TriSec:

Now playing:



I just cant believe all the things people say -- controversy

Am I black or white? am I straight or gay? -- controversy

Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? -- controversy

Controversy controversy

I cant understand human curiosity -- controversy

Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? -- controversy

Do you get high? does your daddy cry? -- controversy

Controversy controversy



Do I believe in god? do I believe in me?

Some people wanna die so they can be free

(I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play?

Controversy controversy controversy

Controversy controversy controversy



:prince:



Come on and for us, Tri.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 21:15:59
He's dancing now.

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 21:16:48
Quote by Raine:

THANK YOU!!!!! I have been saying this OVER and OVER and OVER... this is a crystal clear point... TORTURE is llegal.. WATERBOARDING is illegal!



Damn.




Ah, never mind all the twisted legalese...



From something as mundane as the old Merriam-Webster dictionary:







1 : to cause intense suffering to : torment

2 : to punish or coerce by inflicting excruciating pain

3 : to twist or wrench out of shape : distort, warp



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 21:18:07
I still have my ticket stub from the Purple Rain tour somewhere.



March 25, 19eightyfive at the Worcester Centrum.



"Wear something Purple"



Oh, yes I did indeed. Lace gloves, too!





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:20:33
Do you know what? I still have blloms on my tomato plant and about 10 green tomatoes on the vines!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 21:23:01
As I check my e-mail;



[quote}TODAY'S DEMOCRACY NOW!:



* Despite Waterboarding Stance, Senate Committee Approves Mukasey¹s Attorney

General Nomination *



Michael Mukasey ultimately owed his approval by the Committee to the two

Democrats who broke with their party to support him: Chuck Schumer of New

York and Dianne Feinstein of California. His confirmation had been in doubt

after he refused to condemn waterboarding as a form of torture. Now his

nomination is expected to go to the Senate floor by next week, where he is

virtually assured to win confirmation.



Listen/Watch/Read

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/07/155221





* ³Shock Doctrine² Author Naomi Klein on State-Sanctioned Torture and

Disaster Response for the Chosen *



Author and journalist Naomi Klein reacts to the Senate Judiciary Committee¹s

approval of Michael Mukasey, which she calls an endorsement of state

torture. And she turns to California, where in last month¹s wildfires a

spate of new companies offered privatized solutions to emergency management

-- only for those rich enough to afford it.



Listen/Watch/Read

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/07/156211





* Headlines for November 7, 2007 *



- 2007 is Deadliest Year for U.S. Troops in Iraq

- 60 Killed in Afghan Suicide Bombing

- Pakistan Police Vow Crackdown on Mass Protest

- Senate Judiciary Committee Approves Mukasey

- Lawmakers Approve $459B Military Spending Bill

- Judge OKs Torture Suit Against U.S. Contractor

- Nicaraguans Win Damages for Dole Pesticide Spraying

- Yahoo Officials Defend Role in Chinese Journalist Jailing

- Illinois High School Students Face Expulsion for Anti-War Protest



Listen/Watch/Read

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/07/155209


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:25:46
ok, this story is freaky... NORMAN, Okla. - Defense attorney Lisa McCalmont was well-known nationally as an outspoken critic of lethal injection and amassed a trove of information about problems with the three-drug cocktail that is at the very center of a case the U.S. Supreme Court will hear early next year. {break} Colleagues say McCalmont, 49, was looking forward to the Supreme Court case as a momentous event in her career. {break} But then, last week, she hanged herself at her home in Norman Ñ a suicide that stunned and baffled some of those who knew her.{break}

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:26:35
Hey Where is that video she was just talking about? if anyone can find it on the youtubes post it??? PLEASE????

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:27:34
:yawn:

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 21:29:37
Missed in the shuffle today:



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071107/capt.879be4bd000646389c95a4381e791cbb.space_shuttle_ksc120.jpg?x=180&y=113&sig=80uIW.h4jsDfuLcWxUDk0w--




They made it back in one piece.



I don't know about anyone else, but the words "Roger, go with throttle up" still make my heart skip a beat whenever I can see a launch.



Now we have to worry about the re-entry, too.





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:34:20
Quote by Raine:

ok, this story is freaky... NORMAN, Okla. - Defense attorney Lisa McCalmont was well-known nationally as an outspoken critic of lethal injection and amassed a trove of information about problems with the three-drug cocktail that is at the very center of a case the U.S. Supreme Court will hear early next year.

{break}



Colleagues say McCalmont, 49, was looking forward to the Supreme Court case as a momentous event in her career. {break}



But then, last week, she hanged herself at her home in Norman Ñ a suicide that stunned and baffled some of those who knew her.{break}







I hate when reporters write this :
She left no suicide note


This isn't Hollywood. Most suicides don't "have a note."



Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2007 21:39:54
Alright, I'm headed back to the barn.



Anybody up for a Mythbusters blog later? I think it's a new episode tonight...



"Tonight, on the Mythbusters, Adam and Jamie will check out whether or not bananas can dance...."





Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:40:23
Quote by TriSec:

Alright, I'm headed back to the barn.



Anybody up for a Mythbusters blog later? I think it's a new episode tonight...



"Tonight, on the Mythbusters, Adam and Jamie will check out whether or not bananas can dance...."



I might rabbit, I might!



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:41:38
True dat, starling... I have had 3 people that I knew in my life that committed suicide, none left a note.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:48:20
you will LOOOVE this!!!!





Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 21:49:58
Quote by Raine:

True dat, starling... I have had 3 people that I knew in my life that committed suicide, none left a note.




I believe it.



I did get a note. No note. A note would've been nice. But, suicide isn't nice.



Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:53:32
watch the video... it will put a smile on your face today... and I get the feeling you could use it!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 21:56:57
The freeky thing about that video is a few of those people look an awful lot like aquantences I have back in NY.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:03:03
What... did I break les bloggy?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:04:51
well

I did a little research.... this group is from upstate NY!!! (puffs out chest, feeling a little proud of my investigative abilities...)

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 22:08:36
Quote by Raine:

watch the video... it will put a smile on your face today... and I get the feeling you could use it!


:star: ling is no allowed to watch videos at l'office!



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 22:09:01
I tried to play it. The work computer has a sound card but the audio is still too low, I will have to play it when I get home.

Comment by starling310 on 11/07/2007 22:15:47
I am off! Benefit performance at the theatah tonight.



OH! A celebrity emoticon...big sunglasses, boa!







Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 22:20:02
Hafe fun tonight,

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:28:17
break a leg starling darling!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:28:18
break a leg starling darling!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:46:58
Quote by starling310:

I am off! Benefit performance at the theatah tonight.



OH! A celebrity emoticon...big sunglasses, boa!





The image in my head... Audrey from Breakfast at Tiffany's.... :swoon: I love that movie....



Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 22:55:31
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I am off! Benefit performance at the theatah tonight.



OH! A celebrity emoticon...big sunglasses, boa!





The image in my head... Audrey from Breakfast at Tiffany's.... :swoon: I love that movie....



And I still like the DJ one too.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 22:55:51
oh dear is Randi ending the show with a right wing caller?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:05:50
you know I was reading a bit more about Robertson's gouliani endorsement...this really is about the fraction with the cristo conservative movement.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 23:07:03
Quote by Raine:

oh dear is Randi ending the show with a right wing caller?


Again? Did Rodney try again?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:07:19
Robertson endorsing Guiliani goes against EVERYTHING the right wing christian republican have EVER stood for. Guoiliani is simply not a social conservative, and robertson kneeled down to his alter.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:07:49
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

oh dear is Randi ending the show with a right wing caller?


Again? Did Rodney try again?


:rofl: he sobered up!

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 23:15:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

oh dear is Randi ending the show with a right wing caller?


Again? Did Rodney try again?


:rofl: he sobered up!


He's giving Sling Blade a run for the money.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:20:00
Enda is being voted on right now, btw.... I posted a little bit about this on the board.. right now with 2 minutes remaining.... the yeas are at 207, the nays are at 140

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:20:19
214=-147

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:20:34
216-158

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:21:05
less than a minute left.... 224-167....

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:22:18
229-175 vote is done.... btw.... bush has pledged to veto this as well. So tht means bush hates the kids and the gays.... wow, what a shock.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:23:35
HR 3685 (ENDA) prohibits employment discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 23:23:44
Bush hates everyone who isn't part of his ruling class.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:25:11
Pisses me off that the republicans objected to thevote becuase they think it endorses gay marriage... no I am not kidding... they forced it back to committee to have the wording tweaked for clarification.

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2007 23:26:53
But what will protect all those closet case Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry Craig?



Oh, wait, Larry Craig says that he is not gay and that he loves his wife.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:31:44
Quote by livingonli:

But what will protect all those closet case Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry Craig?



Oh, wait, Larry Craig says that he is not gay and that he loves his wife.


HA! this LAW WILL!!!! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:46:39
If you would like updates on ENDA, I started a thread in the GLBT area of the board. BArney Frank and John Lewis just have me all verklempt tonite.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2007 23:57:54
I posted the Shock doctrine on the MB....

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 00:03:01
Time for the newshour.... I just cannot stomach tweety this week... I want news, not poltical campaign bitch fests .





Tweety talking about hillary and rudy is like watching TMZ with paris and britney and the lack of panties, these days.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 00:04:37
wow bush looks like shit. he talked to Musharref, and said you need to have elections, and take off the uniform... OOOH.... that must have scared him!



The reality is this, bush has been shitting his pants for the past few days...

Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2007 00:13:56
Evening...



I was just reading the back of Javi's "Aqua-Dots"box about all the safety rules they allegedly conform to.



Since they obviously don't conform to these rules, the question now is "who do I sue?"



"Conforms to product safety standards ASTM F963-03, ASTM D-1236 regulatory requirements"



And in Mrs. TriSec's research this afternoon, she discovered that not only does the chemical get released if you swallow it, it also is released if the product is sprayed with water. Which is EXACTLY what you're supposed to do with it!!



:livid:



:rage:



:boom:





Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 00:23:01
Give 'em hell, Tri!



Quiet night in MSG tonight, we're mostly on tape, but our B room is doing the Buffalo feed of the Sabres-Bruins game.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 00:47:07


:rofl: OMG... this cracks me up!!!!





OMG!!!! How many drops can momma get from this one???? :rofl:



you don't have to watch it.... just listen.... dude thinks bill o's is *CENTER leaning to the right*!!!!



OMG!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 00:48:44
:rofl: I don't know the guys name... :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 00:51:44
Quote by TriSec:

Evening...



I was just reading the back of Javi's "Aqua-Dots"box about all the safety rules they allegedly conform to.



Since they obviously don't conform to these rules, the question now is "who do I sue?"



"Conforms to product safety standards ASTM F963-03, ASTM D-1236 regulatory requirements"



And in Mrs. TriSec's research this afternoon, she discovered that not only does the chemical get released if you swallow it, it also is released if the product is sprayed with water. Which is EXACTLY what you're supposed to do with it!!



:livid:



:rage:



:boom:



Jesus christalmighty.... (sorry, I am a bad christian) WTF?!?!?!?



I talked to Mondo earlier and he heard the the CPSB has issued a recall on this... so far nothing on the TV or the internets that I can see.



This is crazy shit...





OMG!



Is javi ok???



YEs, I would say contacting a lawyer for a class action suit may be mos def worht looking into.





Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 00:57:10
When I first heard about the Aqua dots thing, I started to laugh a little, then I was reminded of Javi having these by Raine. This is some scary stuff. GHB Jesus!







Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:04:16
Quote by Raine:



:rofl: OMG... this cracks me up!!!!





OMG!!!! How many drops can momma get from this one???? :rofl:



you don't have to watch it.... just listen.... dude thinks bill o's is *CENTER leaning to the right*!!!!



OMG!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:




I listen to about 2 minutes of this, PRICELESS! :rofl:



Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:13:27
I know! it is a classic!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:16:24
Oh some gut talking about Rudy'd dubious track record on him Mob prosocutions.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:18:24
The phrase "lets do this" needs to be banished from the lexicon.



Prince in worst person?? Ohhh Tri...

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:30:38
on the phone with my mom....

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:32:14
Keith with both Triumph & Heston in the same segment! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:32:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

The phrase "lets do this" needs to be banished from the lexicon.



Prince in worst person?? Ohhh Tri...


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:33:15
Quote by Raine:

on the phone with my mom....






Hiya Raine's mom! Yer kid is da bomb! :banana:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:43:54
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

on the phone with my mom....






Hiya Raine's mom! Yer kid is da bomb! :banana:


LOL! She said I was pushing my socialist agenda! BUT... I got her willing to watch sicko!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:44:13
"Allow me to soil myself on you." :rofl: :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:45:45
:lol: I knew that billo would have an explosion of the head about Rosie!!! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:47:39
Quote by Mondobubba:

"Allow me to soil myself on you." :rofl: :rofl:


I may have to add that to my MBsig!!! LOL!!! omg.. my sides hurt!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:47:50
Keith is killing

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:48:26
IS this a Keith Special comment? It should be!!! :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 01:49:08
Quote by Raine:

:lol: I knew that billo would have an explosion of the head about Rosie!!! :rofl:


Noe that's something I want to see.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:49:19
Wow, that keith is a WONDERFUL tease....

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:49:39
OMG... prince... oh dear....

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:49:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

"Allow me to soil myself on you." :rofl: :rofl:


I may have to add that to my MBsig!!! LOL!!! omg.. my sides hurt!!!






From Stewie no less!

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:50:49
rush... the man who wants 18 year olds to be considered shildren.... WHEN IT SUITS HIM! :pig:

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 01:51:58
"Wait...it gets more psychotic" :rofl:



Oh his Brit Hume!

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:51:59
Britt Hume? the winner???





oh dear.... yes... if Iraq is safe, let us bring ALL THE TROOPS HOME NOW!

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:53:27
Is something wrong with me for not missingthe writers strike, when I have keith???



MSNBC, should show the rerun of KO at 11 instead of 12.





Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:55:21
I still have no clue for thursdays blog... I am thinking something along the lines of the shock doctrine... I dunno.



my mind is still realling from a lot of stuff going on.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:56:03
AND... it does NOT help when Dan teases me with student teacher love sex.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:57:11
:rofl:



This is pretty hunky!!!



OMG....

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:58:18
"statement crafting challenge"? Oh no.... giggle, snort...

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 01:59:15
Stella REALLY made that charm? mEEEEEEE-yOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:01:20
ooOOO00000hhhh.... Dan with the hot sex on student love.....





And PAt robertson and the Rudy love....



I am in a quandry.....

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 02:07:02
Quote by Raine:

Stella REALLY made that charm? mEEEEEEE-yOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






i sense Paul on Tinsel Tawk

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 02:10:59
Quote by Raine:

ooOOO00000hhhh.... Dan with the hot sex on student love.....





And PAt robertson and the Rudy love....



I am in a quandry.....


Maybe you can find a way to connect them. :lightbulb:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:12:10
Wexler Will Urge House Judiciary Committee to 'Schedule Impeachment Hearings Immediately'

Letter Calling for Action Sent to Constituents After Kucinich Resolution to Impeach Cheney is Referred to Committee

Says 'Vice President Cheney must answer for his deceptive actions in office'



As reported in full by David Swanson, in the wake of yesterday's wild ride (and game of chicken) on the House floor concerning the privileged resolution filed by



Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), calling for the Impeachment of Dick Cheney.



The following is from a letter sent to constituents today by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, where the matter has been sent again.



Wexler is now calling for the committee "to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months."...



Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:13:28
From brad sorry for not posting the link...

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:14:57


OK... guy who does not want to have kids should wear a condom.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:16:50
3 months... Dude... 3 months... you should have been using friggin condoms... DO NOT blame this on women... ig you are so scared of being a daddy... FINE... use a fucking condom!

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 02:17:13
Quote by Raine:



OK... guy who does not want to have kids should wear a condom.


...or get a vasectomy.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:19:12
here is something else I take issue with... if the mother has the kid... she is gonna raise the kid.



It may be a woman's body, but if a man doies not want to play, well then do not play.





I am very radical about this.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:21:58
AND... do not even get me started on women's rights issues... Do you know that before women had rights... it was men who had the right to tell momma's that a child would be put up for adoption?



YES... Men had that right. Whether it was a wife or a mistress.





Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:23:06
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:



OK... guy who does not want to have kids should wear a condom.


...or get a vasectomy.


DING! you don't wanna play? get a Vas sect TOMAY!!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2007 02:35:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:



OK... guy who does not want to have kids should wear a condom.


...or get a vasectomy.


DING! you don't wanna play? get a Vas sect TOMAY!!!!






I thought V was for Vendetta....

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:46:25
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:



OK... guy who does not want to have kids should wear a condom.


...or get a vasectomy.


DING! you don't wanna play? get a Vas sect TOMAY!!!!


I thought V was for Vendetta....




For reallysmart men... it is.... ;)

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 02:49:11
V is also for Vulture.

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/spider-man/vulture-man-200.jpg




:nerd:

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:49:24
AM I so fancy pants that I canlook down on LArry king when he he has the dog on as a guest???

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:50:44
Quote by livingonli:

V is also for Vulture.

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/spider-man/vulture-man-200.jpg




:nerd:




Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 02:54:15
Musharreffs new court gives him 5 more years!

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 03:02:47


Isn't that nice of them? I guess they had to vote his way or get shot.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:07:53
Malloy is killing me tonite.



Mush and Bush baby...

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:09:39
Quote by livingonli:



Isn't that nice of them? I guess they had to vote his way or get shot.


Bush can do that at any time here in America. I posted the Shock Doctrine tonie on the MB.







WE could be fucked... I say COULD because I have not given up...

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:14:21
This is a serious you tube vid....



Senator Craig's Washington Report: November 1 2007



Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:16:15
I almost feel sorry for Larry... His you tube account...

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 03:18:05
Quote by Raine:

Malloy is killing me tonite.



Mush and Bush baby...


I miss being able to listen on a regular basis. At least I am off the next two nights.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:19:16
:rofl: from his youtube message place:



celticforce1349 | September 06, 2007

I am so sorry for all the mounting pressure you must be under right now! Please just try to relax and take it easy Mr. Craig. There is no need for this to be any more painful than the giant attack on your firm, wide stance has been to you already.

Who would have guessed that a persons bathroom posture would receive so much criticism? I often tap my toes, or even sing songs while making poo. Doesn't everbody?



P.S. Thank you again so much for dedicating your life to fighting for such worthy causes! And don't think I am not thankful for the awesome blowjob you gave me during a lay-over in Seattle a few years ago!



Sincerely,



Ted Haggerty.
I swear to god!!!

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:33:59
I must head to sleep...



I will talk to you in the am..mmmmwahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!



(Tri, we saved at least 5 kids tonite...much love to the Mrs. for her research!!!!)

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 03:41:55
Good night Raine. Sweet dreams. :zzz:

Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2007 03:43:10
Quote by livingonli:

Good night Raine. Sweet dreams.


Didn't notice that the emoticon name had changed.

Comment by Raine on 11/08/2007 03:43:23
AndI want to add... before I sign off for the nite... Some people are high on my list of prayors tonite.



:hug:



just saying, that is all.



Gnite loverlies... Raine.

Comment by MMB on 11/08/2007 04:06:53
Back to the earlier subject. I really thought the letter V was for Viagra. But I guess it depends on what different people think and how they choose to use the good old V.

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