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Snake Oil - the Republican Economic Stimulus Plan
Author: BobR    Date: 01/28/2009 12:09:59

The battle has been heating up over what the economic stimulus plan should be. Although there are differences between Obama's vision and that of Congress in general, the real battle lines are drawn along party affiliation. As in most things economic, the Republicans are wrong yet again.

The Democrats want to create jobs and work projects to get the economy moving again, ala the Roosevelt model during the Great Depression. The Republicans want to use tax rebates, tax cuts, and tax credits to put more money into people's hands. What's wrong with the Republican plan? Let us count the ways...

On the surface their plan seems to make sense - if people have more money, they'll spend it and kick start the economy, right? Wrong. This falls under the same umbrella as Supply-side Economics - if you let the rich keep more money, they'll create more jobs. We've seen just how badly that one works.

It's far more likely that if you let people keep more of their money they'll either pay off debt or save it for a rainy day. Not that that's a bad thing, but it won't do what it's supposed to do here - stimulate the economy.

On the other hand, if you create jobs, then people who were collecting unemployment or welfare will now be doing actual work, AND they'll be spending the money on stuff, like food, gas, clothes, electronics, etc. It's these purchases that drive the economy and create more jobs.

With both the Republican and the Democratic models, the treasury ends up with less money. But with the Democratic plan, the economy actually gets stimulated AND you actually get some tangible work done for the money.

Another problem with the Republican plan is that it only helps people who already have jobs - it doesn't actually create new jobs. They say it does, via the previously debunked supply-side method, but the Democratic plan directly creates jobs. Reversing the current trend of job loss is going to be a key factor towards helping the economy.

Georgia Republicans (never known to be a very bright bunch) are trying to taint the Obama plan by calling it "socialism". Despite the reality that it will bring much needed dollars to Georgia, they are still dismissing it:
President Obama’s $825 billion economic stimulus plan targets the right problems with the wrong solutions and likely would damage the economy rather than save it, several Georgia Republican congressmen argued Saturday.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan could ease Georgia’s budget problems in the short run, the legislators conceded, but they asserted that the costs are too high.

“Everybody likes to get gifts,” said U.S. Rep. John Linder, a Republican from Duluth. “Somebody has to pay for them.”
[...]
“We’re going to take money from Georgians, wash it through Washington, take off some of the money Georgians sent to Washington and then allow Georgians to have some of that money back,” said Rep. Tom Price, a Roswell Republican who is pushing for more tax cuts and credits. “It absolutely makes no sense.”
[...]
"I don’t think anybody wants to hear you’re voting against it or that the money’s not going to be coming,” said Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a Republican from Grantville. If the bill dealt only with roads, infrastructure and job creation, he said, he would vote for it —- but not as it’s written now.

Rep. Jack Kingston, a South Georgia Republican who sits on the House Appropriations Committee, faulted the package for spending too much on “left-leaning” social programs.

He took particular aim at money earmarked for arts and health programs, including a national wellness program he characterized as creating something akin to a “national fat farm.”

God forbid someone should actually get something out of the billions of future tax dollars being sacrificed to get the economy moving after 8 years of Republican mismanagement. So screw the economy if it means money for "left-leaning" programs like art. Jaysus Christus, these people don't just want to drown government in the bathtub, they want to drown the whole country. There's nothing Republicans hate more than someone getting something that they didn't work for. They think people should emulate CEOs who earn their million dollar golden parachutes the old-fashioned way - by running their companies into the ground. On a side note, I wonder how much GA gets back in Federal dollars -vs- what it contributes via income taxes - before this stimulus?

Is this another case of "destroying the village to save it"? It certainly seems like policy is trumping reality in the Republican economic plan. It's the same old snake oil with different packaging.


 

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Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 13:27:58
Morning, comrades.



Hard to believe...it's been 23 years.



STS 51-L



High Flight



Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth

And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth

Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung

High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there

I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung

My eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,

I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace

Where never lark, or even eagle flew -

And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod

The high untresspassed sanctity of space,

Put out my hand and touched the face of God.



Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee

No 412 squadron, RCAF

Killed 11 December 1941

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2009 14:03:38
quiet morning... :coffee:





except for the kamikaze kitties...

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 14:07:45
:thud: <- fainting



Made it! Streets were particulary wet and icy this morning, you know how we in the DC Metro have issues with precipitation and driving.



Morning! :hug:

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:09:02
Good Morning!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:19:09
In one Fail Swoop, Obama takes Rush to task and Reaches out to the GOP... and you know what? It's WORKING..

Responding to President Obama’s recommendation to Republican congressional leaders last week that they not follow Limbaugh’s lead, the conservative talkmeister said on his show that Obama is “obviously more frightened of me than he is Mitch McConnell. He's more frightened of me, than he is of, say, John Boehner, which doesn't say much about our party."



Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., did not take kindly to this assessment in an interview with Politico Tuesday.



“I think that our leadership, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, are taking the right approach,” Gingrey said. “I mean, it’s easy if you’re Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don’t have to try to do what’s best for your people and your party. You know you’re just on these talk shows and you’re living well and plus you stir up a bit of controversy and gin the base and that sort of that thing. But when it comes to true leadership, not that these people couldn’t be or wouldn’t be good leaders, they’re not in that position of John Boehner or Mitch McConnell."




Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:20:38
Actually I think they are for obstructing the DEMS.



Crybabies. They are acting like children.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:27:13
http://i42.tinypic.com/25ziirr.jpg




Wow, huh?

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2009 14:29:19
yes

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 14:32:33
What is that from?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 14:35:04
Maybe he has an audio book

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2009 14:36:28
Mornin' guys.. been here for a while, just been busy with stuff. We might go home early, dunno yet.

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 14:36:55
Mornin' Everyone,

I am home this morning until about 11 - the University is opening at 12noon. I guess neither one of Tulsa's snow ploughs have made it to my neighborhood, so I am allowing plenty of time to get there today. Wish me luck - there is about an inch of ice covered by another inch of snow on the roads :nervous:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/28/2009 14:38:52
Good morning, bloggers!! Excellent post, BobR!!



I think we will see obstructionism by the GOP, but I suspect that enough Senators are worried about their states and reelection chances that the Senate will pass the stimulus plan.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/28/2009 14:43:48
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, comrades.



Hard to believe...it's been 23 years.



STS 51-L



High Flight



Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth

And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth

Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung

High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there

I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung

My eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,

I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace

Where never lark, or even eagle flew -

And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod

The high untresspassed sanctity of space,

Put out my hand and touched the face of God.



Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee

No 412 squadron, RCAF

Killed 11 December 1941




TriSec, a sad anniversary indeed. I remember being in college and hearing from a classmate about this -- and then started hearing and seeing the news coverage.



Here is a song that brings to mind those who are gone, yet who still inspire us. "The Whole of the Moon" by the Waterboys.







Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:46:10
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everyone,

I am home this morning until about 11 - the University is opening at 12noon. I guess neither one of Tulsa's snow ploughs have made it to my neighborhood, so I am allowing plenty of time to get there today. Wish me luck - there is about an inch of ice covered by another inch of snow on the roads :nervous:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:


Please drive slow and Safe Faye!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:46:52
Quote by wickedpam:

What is that from?


It's part of her upcoming Vogue spread! :gobama:

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 14:51:47
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What is that from?


It's part of her upcoming Vogue spread! :gobama:






It's fierce! :)



Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 14:57:50
I must say, that Jim is right. Momma stepped over a line.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2009 14:57:52
Great post BobR! Last night I was watching the various "news" shows..... I love it when the Repubs come on and say "we need to reach out across the aisle"..... "to the democrat party". <_<



Now, I am a puddle of goo this am, after watching this that someone posted elsewhere:





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2009 15:00:52
Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 15:02:09
Oh man Velveeta... that was AWESOME!

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2009 15:06:37
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)


Could it be the one I quoted in the blog post?

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 15:09:48
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)
becuase making ART means less than what exactly? :modbat:



Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 15:12:12
:puke:







Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 15:16:22
I lose my battle of Same Sex attraction every day.





Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 15:18:11
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)
becuase making ART means less than what exactly? :modbat:







exactly, its always art & music that gets the axe first, then clubs and other activities. then when they start cutting sports is never football or baseball its gymnastics and track (which is something they are doing in Fairfax county here)

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2009 15:25:40
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)


I heard this on Morning Edition today - it was Eric Cantor, the House Minority Whip.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2009 15:26:51
Oh dear......... my favorite movie of the year is in trouble:



Slumdog Millionaire has won four Golden Globes and is nominated for 10 Oscars. It is on its way to making hundreds of millions of pounds in box office receipts.



The film’s British director, Danny Boyle, has spoken of how he set up trust funds for Rubina and Azharuddin and paid for their education. But it has emerged that the children, who played Latika and Salim in the early scenes of the film, were paid less than many Indian domestic servants.




Parents of child stars accuse producers of poverty

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2009 15:27:50
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)


I heard this on Morning Edition today - it was Eric Cantor, the House Minority Whip.


YES! That's the asswipe!! What a DOOFUS!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 15:28:05
Puma? I think he aged Steph a few years or did I get that backwards?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 15:34:07
Battlestar Props being auctioned off I know some people are intense about Battlestar so this is just fyi

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 15:52:49


Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 15:55:11
Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 15:59:30
Quote by starling310:

I lose my battle of Same Sex attraction every day.







Heya Roomie/Stahlink,

To what do you refer? I am single and feeling okay about it - until I get lonely But then I always have yous guys (& gals).

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:02:36
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh, and speaking of art.... last night a Republican Rep (can't remember which one) said: Obama wants to put $5 billion dollars towards art. How will that create jobs?



:thud: (Maybe he really believes that artists should starve?)


I heard this on Morning Edition today - it was Eric Cantor, the House Minority Whip.


YES! That's the asswipe!! What a DOOFUS!




Yeah VJ,

Something like the idiot caller yesterday who didn't understand the benefits of buildling infrastructure (mostly 'cause he thought that he was too old to get one of the jobs) - as Stephanie said - Hey right-winger - it's not always about YOU! :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:03:02
Good morning everyone.



Well at least we're finally above freezing again so the snow has changed to rain.

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:05:10
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

I lose my battle of Same Sex attraction every day.







Heya Roomie/Stahlink,

To what do you refer? I am single and feeling okay about it - until I get lonely But then I always have yous guys (& gals).

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:




Ted Haggard's wife saying he was winning the battle agains his same sex attraction. I just meant I surrender to my love of women! WAHOO!





Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 16:05:33
http://www.saltintheheartbreak.com/images/salt_shaker.gif


Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:05:59
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everyone,

I am home this morning until about 11 - the University is opening at 12noon. I guess neither one of Tulsa's snow ploughs have made it to my neighborhood, so I am allowing plenty of time to get there today. Wish me luck - there is about an inch of ice covered by another inch of snow on the roads :nervous:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:


Good luck with that. I know how that can be.



Although these days with my old car if there's too much ice I would just bang in sick.

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:07:22
Quote by Raine:

I must say, that Jim is right. Momma stepped over a line.


I missed it. What did she do?

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:09:26
Quote by starling310:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

I lose my battle of Same Sex attraction every day.







Heya Roomie/Stahlink,

To what do you refer? I am single and feeling okay about it - until I get lonely But then I always have yous guys (& gals).

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:




Ted Haggard's wife saying he was winning the battle agains his same sex attraction. I just meant I surrender to my love of women! WAHOO!







I'm with you on that, Sistah,

Why fight the feeling??? :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:09:55
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye


Still scanning. Since I work in TV, we can never close no matter how bad it is.

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:12:28
It looks like our blog ladies are having fun this morning. :p

Comment by Random on 01/28/2009 16:15:05
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:15:09
ya know, Steve G and Jessica Simpson being friends somehow doesn't surprise me

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:17:02
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye


Still scanning. Since I work in TV, we can never close no matter how bad it is.




Oh...come one roomie....



Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:18:00


Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:22:09
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye


Still scanning. Since I work in TV, we can never close no matter how bad it is.






Bummer Livin,

Have you ever thought about getting into another line of work? I'm just sayin'... it seems like your hours suck and you're always working Our University has a TV station and it is probably just showing reruns today - I'm just guessing. But if you moved out here, then you'd actually live in Oklahoma and believe me that is not a good thang One of our legislators who thinks with his butt hole is proposing putting a momunment of the Ten Commandments up somewhere in OKC (But he insists that it doesn't indicate a preference for one religion over another - yeah right :P). Life in Red Amerika really sucks (most of the time).

Cheers,

mfaye & :peace:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 16:24:52
Massively depressed this morning, the wife just got laid off.

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:25:55
It's sleeting here. Lovely.



Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:26:11
Quote by starling310:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye


Still scanning. Since I work in TV, we can never close no matter how bad it is.




Oh...come one roomie....





Oh Roomie - you temptress :D

Maybe I'll bake some brownies - it doesn't count if you eat the sh*t, does it?

I'm just saying...

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:



Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:26:36
Oh TJ! That sucks!

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:27:02
THat's Goldie Hawn from First Wive's Club

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:28:41
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Massively depressed this morning, the wife just got laid off.




:hug: & & :hug:

Cheers to you and the Missus - it will get betters !!

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 16:28:58
Quote by starling310:

It's sleeting here. Lovely.





Still snowing here, but the flakes are getting larger. I think this is supposed to be the jackpot area for MA.

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:29:24
Quote by m-hadley:



Oh Roomie - you temptress :D

Maybe I'll bake some brownies - it doesn't count if you eat the sh*t, does it?

I'm just saying...

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:





It absolutely does NOT count!! *ding*



Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:31:16
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Heya guys (& gals),

Whoo Hooo - I just got word that the University is closed all day today :airhump:

So, I'm staying in (although at some point today I will have to see if I can get the gate at the end of my driveway open - it is frozen closed :whistling:). Too bad I decided to give up drinking 'cause today would be a great day to sit back and curl up with a good bottle of someting, someting or spark one up (oops - I gave that up too )... I just might have to read a book

Cheers,

mfaye


Still scanning. Since I work in TV, we can never close no matter how bad it is.






Bummer Livin,

Have you ever thought about getting into another line of work? I'm just sayin'... it seems like your hours suck and you're always working Our University has a TV station and it is probably just showing reruns today - I'm just guessing. But if you moved out here, then you'd actually live in Oklahoma and believe me that is not a good thang One of our legislators who thinks with his butt hole is proposing putting a momunment of the Ten Commandments up somewhere in OKC (But he insists that it doesn't indicate a preference for one religion over another - yeah right :P). Life in Red Amerika really sucks (most of the time).

Cheers,

mfaye & :peace:


When I was unemployed in late '05 I did think about it And now with all the job gutting in the industry it is not encouraging for someone who would like to work someplace else. The only thing holding me back is I was a Comm Arts major and this is kind of pretty much what I have spent half my life doing and I have to figure out what else I am good out so I can enjoy what I do (although these days if it just pays me well enough to stay in New York that would be OK).

Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:31:56
Quote by starling310:

It's sleeting here. Lovely.





Roomie,

For goodness sake, please stay in. You want that I should FedEx you some brownies? :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:32:20
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Massively depressed this morning, the wife just got laid off.




Oh man...I'm really sorry. :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 16:32:48
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Massively depressed this morning, the wife just got laid off.


That sucks indeed. How is the economy going to turn around when everyone seems to be bleeding their work force?

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:34:40
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

It's sleeting here. Lovely.





Roomie,

For goodness sake, please stay in. You want that I should FedEx you some brownies? :P

Cheers,

mfaye





:drool:



Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2009 16:38:36
Speaking of JOBS, check this out: 20 jobs that let you work less, earn more. Hope it helps.

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 16:50:27
A big George Bush supporter?

Hmm...



Psst....George Bush is GONE!

Move on.



Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:51:08


Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:52:15
yes! Anthrax attacks!

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2009 16:53:54
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

I lose my battle of Same Sex attraction every day.





Heya Roomie/Stahlink,

To what do you refer? I am single and feeling okay about it - until I get lonely But then I always have yous guys (& gals).

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump:


Heh speaking of this, there's this cute girl working at the drugstore near my house that I see like twice a week, and I've always been meaning to talk to, but since she's working I just let it go 'cause I don't want to get her in trouble or anything..



Today I'm on the way to work and she pops onto the same bus I take every day - on her way to class at RIC. Good times and conversations were had!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 16:56:25
Quote by wickedpam:

yes! Anthrax attacks!




What?!?



Where's Coultergeist??

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2009 16:57:58
Quote by TriSec:

http://www.saltintheheartbreak.com/images/salt_shaker.gif




Well, allow me to retort!







Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 16:58:16
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by wickedpam:

yes! Anthrax attacks!




What?!?



Where's Coultergeist??




oh no - it was the bush support saying we haven't been attacked since 9/11



Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 17:00:19
Thanks all for your kind words.







Hoping this will eventually turn out for the better, because she did HATE that job with a passion. Just really ticks her off that there was no explanation, just a phone call saying don't come in any more.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2009 17:03:47
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Thanks all for your kind words.







Hoping this will eventually turn out for the better, because she did HATE that job with a passion. Just really ticks her off that there was no explanation, just a phone call saying don't come in any more.




that's cold, they couldn't even do it face to face



If she hated it then it was a blessing, I have lost jobs I hated but couldn't leave and now I have a job that I mostly enjoy (its not a brain buster or anything) and people that I like to work with. Granted it's not my idea job but I don't hate going into the office on a daily basis



Comment by Random on 01/28/2009 17:04:17
Hm...



Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2009 17:13:49
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Thanks all for your kind words.







Hoping this will eventually turn out for the better, because she did HATE that job with a passion. Just really ticks her off that there was no explanation, just a phone call saying don't come in any more.


Oh wow that's just plain rude on top of everything too..



Ah well, hang in there. From the sound of it something better is certain to come along... just a matter of time. :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 18:11:23
I just hope something better comes along with more normal hours and better pay because I feel stuck in a rut in my current situation.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 18:18:33
Well, a deer happened by a licked some of the salt off me.



Lemme see...what's going on?



[skeleton crew today - too many "marys" on my team afraid to drive in the snow.]



Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 18:22:49
I've said it before; Athena is always hiring.



Just make sure you type "watertown" in the keyword. Of course, that means you'll need to relocate to an uncertain Massachusetts...



No healthcare experience needed; we'll take anyone as long as you're smahhhht.





Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 18:27:38
:thud: Major internet outage there!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 18:29:11
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Massively depressed this morning, the wife just got laid off.


I am so sorry to hear that Rabbit.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 18:39:02
Best part of Shallow Biatches Anonymous story? THEY ALL GAVE THEIR FULL NAMES TO THE NYT! Ladies, YOU FAIL AT "ANONYMOUS."



:rofl:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 18:51:38
Quote by TriSec:

I've said it before; Athena is always hiring.



Just make sure you type "watertown" in the keyword. Of course, that means you'll need to relocate to an uncertain Massachusetts...



No healthcare experience needed; we'll take anyone as long as you're smahhhht.









I'll direct her to that TriSec. She's worked in an accounting / life insurance environment for 15 years and had some previous experience working in medical records. Thanks.



Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:08:11
What do I have in my hot little hands? A gift from our next door neighbor! Second printing!

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 19:11:41
Quote by Raine:

What do I have in my hot little hands? A gift from our next door neighbor! Second printing!


I got my copy last week.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:21:21
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 19:24:38




Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?





Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:25:16
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

What do I have in my hot little hands? A gift from our next door neighbor! Second printing!


I got my copy last week.
I am surprised you didn't get the first Printing. Right now it's going for about 75-100 dollars.



Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:25:54
Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:28:15
BTW hello all. Oh dear my Nothern Tier blogger peeps with the snow and the sleet and the flaven!



Here I sit with the sun shining brightly and the temp at 77 degrees.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:29:31
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.





How about one word?



A-holes!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:29:39
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.

OH!!! I am gonna do it in ONE WORD!



MANDATE.



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:39:10
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.

OH!!! I am gonna do it in ONE WORD!



MANDATE.





How about we combine my one word with your one word. That way we get a really strong statement.



MANDATE, assholes.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 19:41:24
How about a wordless glare?



http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/barack_obama_mad3.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:43:10
I was chatting with my cousin last night and we speculatating on the orange coloration of The Boner. She allow as how that is what happens when the pure evil in your soul oozes through your pores and is exposed to light. His evil is oxidizing!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:47:19
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.

OH!!! I am gonna do it in ONE WORD!



MANDATE.





How about we combine my one word with your one word. That way we get a really strong statement.



MANDATE, assholes.
Cause that is 2 words?



Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 19:47:56
Quote by Mondobubba:

I was chatting with my cousin last night and we speculatating on the orange coloration of The Boner. She allow as how that is what happens when the pure evil in your soul oozes through your pores and is exposed to light. His evil is oxidizing!
Now that is a VERY good theory!



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:49:16
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:





Ok, 3:



"They Suck Ass"



What do I win?



I can do it in 2.



We Won.

OH!!! I am gonna do it in ONE WORD!



MANDATE.





How about we combine my one word with your one word. That way we get a really strong statement.



MANDATE, assholes.
Cause that is 2 words?





I know, I was totally going for the emphatic two word thing.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 19:51:20
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

I was chatting with my cousin last night and we speculatating on the orange coloration of The Boner. She allow as how that is what happens when the pure evil in your soul oozes through your pores and is exposed to light. His evil is oxidizing!
Now that is a VERY good theory!







I've not talked with her in a long time. She has some very good ideas.

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 19:58:21


I do have the first printing plus Thunderbolts #128 which also includes President Obama involved in a situation on Air Force One when Norman Osborn's mental condition is challenged as he has been given leadership of the National Security Organization that replaces SHIELD.



And on that note, it is off to the salt mine.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2009 19:59:33
In the process of cleaning off the company SUV so I can leave the Fortress of Solitude then deal with getting my own car cleaned off.



It's been sleeterating for the past hour or so.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2009 20:07:02
Say, I forgot to mention something earlier.



Last night, I was listening to "Ring of Fire", and they were talking to David Bender of Politically Direct.



He was present somewhere in the crowd a week ago, and was marveling at the goings-on out there.



Then he mentioned something that I suppose we knew.



Last week on the mall was probably the single largest gathering of Americans in the history of the republic.



Think of it...in 233 years since independence, no event, no person, no reason has been that significant to call that many Americans to be in the same place at the same time.



That's astonishing to me. And I was a part of that!





Comment by BobR on 01/28/2009 20:39:30
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 20:41:33






Roaches, YUM! I love the way they crack and crunch when you bite em! :puke:

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 20:42:16
This one is for and all the others who just the B-Box...



[T]he one thing Barack Obama wants more than to have bipartisanship -- and he wants it -- the one thing he wants more is to solve the problem. And at the end of the day, we're going to do it with the Republicans or without them. We must act; these are serious crisis times. ...



[T]he Republican Party is turning into the Dr. No party: No, no, no. And there's always a reason: First, it's family planning, then we won't do that, and it'll be some other little thing. ... So if the Republicans want to nitpick, God bless them, I love them, but, you know, we'll do it without them if we have to.




:clap:

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2009 20:43:50
Quote by TriSec:

Say, I forgot to mention something earlier.



Last night, I was listening to "Ring of Fire", and they were talking to David Bender of Politically Direct.



He was present somewhere in the crowd a week ago, and was marveling at the goings-on out there.



Then he mentioned something that I suppose we knew.



Last week on the mall was probably the single largest gathering of Americans in the history of the republic.



Think of it...in 233 years since independence, no event, no person, no reason has been that significant to call that many Americans to be in the same place at the same time.



That's astonishing to me. And I was a part of that!



You know... I had not thought about that. That is just amazing. AMAZING.



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 20:44:06
Quote by Raine:

This one is for and all the others who just the B-Box...



[T]he one thing Barack Obama wants more than to have bipartisanship -- and he wants it -- the one thing he wants more is to solve the problem. And at the end of the day, we're going to do it with the Republicans or without them. We must act; these are serious crisis times. ...



[T]he Republican Party is turning into the Dr. No party: No, no, no. And there's always a reason: First, it's family planning, then we won't do that, and it'll be some other little thing. ... So if the Republicans want to nitpick, God bless them, I love them, but, you know, we'll do it without them if we have to.




:clap:




:metal:

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 21:22:21
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

This one is for and all the others who just the B-Box...



[T]he one thing Barack Obama wants more than to have bipartisanship -- and he wants it -- the one thing he wants more is to solve the problem. And at the end of the day, we're going to do it with the Republicans or without them. We must act; these are serious crisis times. ...



[T]he Republican Party is turning into the Dr. No party: No, no, no. And there's always a reason: First, it's family planning, then we won't do that, and it'll be some other little thing. ... So if the Republicans want to nitpick, God bless them, I love them, but, you know, we'll do it without them if we have to.




:clap:




:metal:


:clap: B-box Rocks.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 21:37:32
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2009 22:08:00
From the Wiki entry on Dark Reign, here is the summary of Thunderbolts #128



Norman is called to ride aboard Air Force One by President Barack Obama. On board, Doc Samson reveals that he has footage of Norman as the Green Goblin murdering security forces inside Thunderbolts Mountain. Norman Osborn tries to frame Samson by suggesting that he was actually involved. Before Samson can play this evidence, the new Thunderbolts (Yelena Belova, Ghost and Ant-Man take control of Air Force One and someone dressed as the Green Goblin attacks.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2009 23:17:26
One of the bishops that the Pope de-excommunicated is a Holocaust denier. WTF. Nice going Pope Benny.

Comment by starling310 on 01/28/2009 23:38:07
BBOX!!!



I will always love her.



Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 00:50:40
Dick Army is a sexist Pig. He totally insulted Joan Walsh tonite on HArdball.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/29/2009 00:54:33
Quote by Raine:

Dick Army is a sexist Pig. He totally insulted Joan Walsh tonite on HArdball.






I'm sure she will say something about that in one her columns. Penis Battalion just has a name that is ripe for mocking.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/29/2009 00:58:45
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 01:00:43
Word is -- Not a SINGLE republican voted for the Stimulus. NOT ONE.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/29/2009 01:05:42
Quote by Raine:

Word is -- Not a SINGLE republican voted for the Stimulus. NOT ONE.






Friggin babies. Boo friggin hoo. Here is what I want to see for the next four years:



Democrats----> <----Republicans.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/29/2009 01:12:16
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 01:31:43
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Word is -- Not a SINGLE republican voted for the Stimulus. NOT ONE.






Friggin babies. Boo friggin hoo. Here is what I want to see for the next four years:



Democrats----> <----Republicans.


Payback is a bitch.

Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 02:07:04
Evening, folks.



Well...for the first time since I got the Subee, I have concerns about getting out of my parking spot tomorrow am.



We've got a parking ban overnight, so I'm down back in the overflow lot. It's on a slope, and with the rain and the runoff, there's some "natural zamboni" action going on back there; it's smooth enough to skate on right now.



Anyway, I couldn't park straight, the back end broke free and slid both times I tried. So I finally gunned it and buried the nose in the snowbank. It's parked, but I'm not sure I can get out.



BTW, Waltham, MA...has NO Starbucks within city limits. (There are 4 Dunk's, though.)





Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2009 02:39:14
Just leaving this for Livin.



Stamford, CT. Metro North Railroad nearby and well within our price range. Don't know if we'll do it anytime soon, but it's certainly possible.

Comment by MMB on 01/29/2009 02:58:21
Stephanie Miller was on Dr. Phil today talking about the out of control internet.

Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 05:22:23
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2009 05:29:07
Let me add to this:



Walsh: Who are the income redistributionists?



Armey: Who, what..



Walsh: Who are the income redistributionists?



Armey: Well the biggest income redistributions was a Republican congresswoman, urr. Senator, but Charlie Rangel cracked me up, Charlie said you guys are giving her things that I wouldn't even ask for.



Armey: I don't want to get into that because then the controversy is that Dick Armey is assaulting somebody. There are income redistribitionsts that think they are going to curry favor with a voting blocks in both parties and it's wrong policy whether it comes Republicans or Democrats, it makes no sense. Armey's axiom. Don't let politics define your economics. Don't let politics define anything. Politics is silly, it's inane. Take what amusements you can from them but don't take them seriously.



Walsh: But this is serious business. The economy is a wreck, (Armey laughs) it's been wrecked by the Bush White House and by Republicans in Congress with a lot of help Democratic help, with ( Armey makes more noises and sighs)



Armey: Oh, give it a rest.



Walsh: President Obama, please stop saying 'give it a rest.' Do you have any anything else to say? President Obama has a mandate for change. (Armey laughs again) Your people have stood in his way. They are standing in his way in Capitol hill right now and Rush Limbaugh is making ridiculous statements and Republicans are crawling to him and groveling. That's the state of our economy and our world right now Rep. Armey and it's sad.



Armey: I'm so glad that you could never be my wife because I surely wouldn't have to listen to that prattle from you every day.



Walsh: Well, wow that makes two of us sir, that was really an outstanding comment...



Armey: Look ma'am, you're talking like a paid political hack making your political points.



Walsh: Am I sir?



Armey: Are we going to talk seriously...



Walsh" No, I actually care about social justice, I care about jobs, I care about the economy.



Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2009 06:40:47
Quote by TriSec:

Just leaving this for Livin.



Stamford, CT. Metro North Railroad nearby and well within our price range. Don't know if we'll do it anytime soon, but it's certainly possible.


That's a good rate considering what hotels cost in the New York area. Just hope you don't get sticker shock from those Metro-North rates because if they are probably similar to what the LIRR charges. Let me know how this works out.