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The times, they have a-changed
Author: BobR
Date: 01/30/2009 13:16:45
Today is the end of the first full week of the Obama Presidency. He campaigned on the promise of change, but I doubt anyone expected this much actual change so quickly. After 8 years of laissez faire "leadership" from Bush it's refreshing to have a president that actually does something.
So what sort of change has come to America? In just the last few days we've seen:
Obama blast Wall St. for their bonuses: Can you imagine Bush berating Wall St. tycoons? It would never happen. Obama however, speaks for America:
Obama has been repealing Bush's executive orders, including 4 related to Labor: It's been amazing to watch these fall. It's especially nice to have a president on the side of the Working Man for a change:
Obama signed the Equal Pay Bill, something that Bush would never have signed, had Congress been able to get it through before:
We've seen changes in Congress too. Whether the improved Democratic majorities are because of new legislators riding Obama's coattails, or because the Republicans earned their losses, we're seeing action there as well, things like:
Congress passed the SCHIP bill:
We heard John Kerry speak up about the unanimous House Republican No vote on the bailout bill, after changes they requested were put in. He said that "if Republicans aren’t prepared to vote for it, I don’t think we should be giving up things, where I think the money can be spent more effectively. If they’re not going to vote for it, let’s go with a plan that we think is going to work.”
Finally - a spine!
And most hopefully, it appears that the crimes of the Bush era may not go unpunished after all. Congress issued another subpoena to Karl Rove, and once again he is planning to ignore it, even as Bill O'Reilly offers him a place to hide (wouldn't it be sweet to see O'Reilly arrested for harboring a criminal?). This time, however, the Justice Dept will be asked to arrest Rove for ignoring the Congressional subpoena.
We'll still have to wait to see how the war crimes are treated, especially after former Bush attorney John Yoo refereed to torturing prisoners as "the Bush System". How long can these blatant crimes against humanity go unanswered? Who will speak for the victims?
We always knew we were living under a regressive, repressive regime; sometimes you don't realize just how bad it was until it's good again. THAT's change we can believe in.
So what sort of change has come to America? In just the last few days we've seen:
Obama blast Wall St. for their bonuses: Can you imagine Bush berating Wall St. tycoons? It would never happen. Obama however, speaks for America:
President Barack Obama issued a withering critique Thursday of Wall Street corporate behavior, calling it "the height of irresponsibility" for employees to be paid more than $18 billion in bonuses last year while their crumbling financial sector received a bailout from taxpayers. "It is shameful," Obama said from the Oval Office. "And part of what we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility."
Obama has been repealing Bush's executive orders, including 4 related to Labor: It's been amazing to watch these fall. It's especially nice to have a president on the side of the Working Man for a change:
President Barack Obama plans to overturn four Bush-era executive orders that organized labor opposed.
A labor official tells The Associated Press that Obama will reverse one order that allowed unionized companies to post signs informing workers that they were allowed to decertify the union. Critics said the order was unfair because nonunion businesses were not required to post signs letting workers know they were legally allowed to vote for a union.
The official says the other three orders address similar administrative rules for labor groups. The official disclosed the plans on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to pre-empt the White House's plans.
Obama signed the Equal Pay Bill, something that Bush would never have signed, had Congress been able to get it through before:
Barack Obama today signed the first bill of his presidency, a piece of legislation known as the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act that makes it easier for workers to sue after discovering what they believe to be pay discrimination.
In signing the bill, Mr. Obama said that it sends the message "that there are no second class citizens in our workplaces, and that it's not just unfair and illegal -- but bad for business -- to pay someone less because of their gender, age, race, ethnicity, religion or disability."
We've seen changes in Congress too. Whether the improved Democratic majorities are because of new legislators riding Obama's coattails, or because the Republicans earned their losses, we're seeing action there as well, things like:
Congress passed the SCHIP bill:
The Senate passed legislation Thursday that would provide federal health benefits to millions of children, setting the stage for President Obama to notch an early victory on a major priority.
The chamber voted 66-32 to expand the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
Republicans who crossed the aisle to support the Democratic-written bill were Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Susan Collins (Maine), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas), Richard Lugar (Ind.), Mel Martinez (Fla.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Olympia Snowe (Maine) and Arlen Specter (Pa.).
The latest Senate SCHIP bill failed to attract the same level of Republican support as those earlier measures.
We heard John Kerry speak up about the unanimous House Republican No vote on the bailout bill, after changes they requested were put in. He said that "if Republicans aren’t prepared to vote for it, I don’t think we should be giving up things, where I think the money can be spent more effectively. If they’re not going to vote for it, let’s go with a plan that we think is going to work.”
Finally - a spine!
And most hopefully, it appears that the crimes of the Bush era may not go unpunished after all. Congress issued another subpoena to Karl Rove, and once again he is planning to ignore it, even as Bill O'Reilly offers him a place to hide (wouldn't it be sweet to see O'Reilly arrested for harboring a criminal?). This time, however, the Justice Dept will be asked to arrest Rove for ignoring the Congressional subpoena.
We'll still have to wait to see how the war crimes are treated, especially after former Bush attorney John Yoo refereed to torturing prisoners as "the Bush System". How long can these blatant crimes against humanity go unanswered? Who will speak for the victims?
We always knew we were living under a regressive, repressive regime; sometimes you don't realize just how bad it was until it's good again. THAT's change we can believe in.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 13:27:41
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 13:27:41
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:30:56
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:30:56
Damn straight! Man I can't wait to see Rove dragged away by US Marshalls..
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:31:33
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:31:33
Morning Pam! 
Wooo it's Fridee again! 
:drinking:
Wooo it's Fridee again! :drinking:
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:44:27
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:44:27
Well with the passage of Fair Pay & SCHIP in the Senate, it seems that a good chunk of the Repubs are skurred out of their wits of opposing an Obama mandate.. Hopefully this will be good tidings for the stimulus and EFCA as well.
Oh and there's a leak that Obama may tap Judd Gregg for Commerce Secretary, potentially providing the 60th vote to override filibusters.
Oh and there's a leak that Obama may tap Judd Gregg for Commerce Secretary, potentially providing the 60th vote to override filibusters.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:45:56
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 13:45:56
Ai yai yai!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 13:57:40
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 13:57:40
Okay that's just disturbing 
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:00:48
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:00:48
Looks like everyone was right yesterday about having a zombie escape plan...
:sprint:
:sprint:
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:03:19
I had a feeling the Republicans might soften a bit going in...without the Neocon Jackboots on their backs, some of them might actually vote with either their conscience or the best interests of the United States in mind...
(Witness Senators Snowe and Collins, both R-Maine...already crossing the aisle a number of times to side with Obama.)
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:03:19
Quote by Scoopster:
Well with the passage of Fair Pay & SCHIP in the Senate, it seems that a good chunk of the Repubs are skurred out of their wits of opposing an Obama mandate.. Hopefully this will be good tidings for the stimulus and EFCA as well.
Oh and there's a leak that Obama may tap Judd Gregg for Commerce Secretary, potentially providing the 60th vote to override filibusters.
I had a feeling the Republicans might soften a bit going in...without the Neocon Jackboots on their backs, some of them might actually vote with either their conscience or the best interests of the United States in mind...
(Witness Senators Snowe and Collins, both R-Maine...already crossing the aisle a number of times to side with Obama.)
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:05:44
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:05:44
Always have a zombie escape plan, has George Romero taught you nothing :p
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:11:43
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:11:43
Oh my. Blajo just made me choke on my own spit.
How crazy can he *possibly* be?
How crazy can he *possibly* be?
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 14:13:44
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 14:13:44
...but what about a Borg escape plan? 
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 14:20:48
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 14:20:48
Comment by 
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 14:24:33
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 14:24:33
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye & :peace:
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 14:30:48
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 14:30:48
Good morning, bloggers. Excellent post, BobR!!
I suspect that we are feeling a weight lifting from our shoulders. Perhaps we will indeed see some of the GOP cross the aisle. If not, they can be shown as obstructionisits.
I suspect that we are feeling a weight lifting from our shoulders. Perhaps we will indeed see some of the GOP cross the aisle. If not, they can be shown as obstructionisits.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:32:57
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:32:57
Good Morning... I must say after 8 years of the * administration... and 4 years of blogging and writing about it... reading a blog like this is very very refreshing!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:34:46
and they claimed being online would make one anti-social :p
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:34:46
Quote by m-hadley:
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
and they claimed being online would make one anti-social :p
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:40:07
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:40:07
*non-sequitir*
Has anyone ever made a cheese souffle?
Has anyone ever made a cheese souffle?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 14:40:53
I know! 
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:40:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Well with the passage of Fair Pay & SCHIP in the Senate, it seems that a good chunk of the Repubs are skurred out of their wits of opposing an Obama mandate.. Hopefully this will be good tidings for the stimulus and EFCA as well.
Oh and there's a leak that Obama may tap Judd Gregg for Commerce Secretary, potentially providing the 60th vote to override filibusters.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:50:27
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:50:27
whine much bethany 
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:51:04
TriSec on 01/30/2009 14:51:04
Wow, imagine that. Followers of a democrat that are as blind and misguided as Bush supporters.
Who knew?
Who knew?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 14:51:27
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:51:27
Alright Stephanie... Settle down...
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 14:52:31
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 14:52:31
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:52:49
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 14:52:49
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 14:53:24
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:53:24
Thank you Chris!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 14:55:05
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:55:05
Quote by wickedpam:
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 14:57:04
Oh... I hope so!!!
Raine on 01/30/2009 14:57:04
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
We may see some major moves in the diplomatic arena soon.
Biden may hold unclenched Iranian hand.
Oh... I hope so!!!
Comment by m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:00:51
I tried once, but if was literally a flop :(
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:00:51
Quote by TriSec:
*non-sequitir*
Has anyone ever made a cheese souffle?
I tried once, but if was literally a flop :(
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:02:44
I've made souffles and I've made cheese popovers, but never cheese souffle.
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:02:44
Quote by TriSec:
*non-sequitir*
Has anyone ever made a cheese souffle?
I've made souffles and I've made cheese popovers, but never cheese souffle.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 15:03:07
I believe that it is important for the United States to talk with governments - especially those where there are strained relations. Diplomacy is often about finding ways to meet mutual interests or diffuse tensions. So, it seems l ike Obama's administration has decided to hit the ground running. So, here is a question for the blog: Who will be more cooperative with the Obama administration, the GOP or the Iranian government?
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 15:03:07
Quote by Raine:Quote by Will in Phoenix:
We may see some major moves in the diplomatic arena soon.
Biden may hold unclenched Iranian hand.
Oh... I hope so!!!
I believe that it is important for the United States to talk with governments - especially those where there are strained relations. Diplomacy is often about finding ways to meet mutual interests or diffuse tensions. So, it seems l ike Obama's administration has decided to hit the ground running. So, here is a question for the blog: Who will be more cooperative with the Obama administration, the GOP or the Iranian government?
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:03:55
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:03:55
I see peanuts still in the news.
I had a thought...maybe it's time for segregation again. Only this time, let's segregate by political affiliation...anyone that believes in deregulation and the free market correcting things can buy peanut butter from unregulated plants. After all, if they get sick or die, they won't buy from the plant again and they'll go out of business and solve the problem, right?
The rest of us can buy from regulated and inspected food plants.
I had a thought...maybe it's time for segregation again. Only this time, let's segregate by political affiliation...anyone that believes in deregulation and the free market correcting things can buy peanut butter from unregulated plants. After all, if they get sick or die, they won't buy from the plant again and they'll go out of business and solve the problem, right?
The rest of us can buy from regulated and inspected food plants.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:07:28
wow - that is a GREAT question. If the Iranians are willing to work with Obama, what the hell is wrong with the Republicans?
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:07:28
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
I believe that it is important for the United States to talk with governments - especially those where there are strained relations. Diplomacy is often about finding ways to meet mutual interests or diffuse tensions. So, it seems l ike Obama's administration has decided to hit the ground running. So, here is a question for the blog: Who will be more cooperative with the Obama administration, the GOP or the Iranian government?
wow - that is a GREAT question. If the Iranians are willing to work with Obama, what the hell is wrong with the Republicans?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:08:04
Sadly... at this point, I am thinking Iran.
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:08:04
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
I believe that it is important for the United States to talk with governments - especially those where there are strained relations. Diplomacy is often about finding ways to meet mutual interests or diffuse tensions. So, it seems l ike Obama's administration has decided to hit the ground running. So, here is a question for the blog: Who will be more cooperative with the Obama administration, the GOP or the Iranian government?
Sadly... at this point, I am thinking Iran.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:08:30
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:08:30
btw - thanks to all for the blog comments. I figured we needed a Good News blog for Friday! :)
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:08:37
Hmm. I'm planning on making one Sunday....mother-in-law's birthday.
[I promise not to gloat.
]
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:08:37
Quote by m-hadley:
I tried once, but if was literally a flop :(
Cheers,
mfaye
Hmm. I'm planning on making one Sunday....mother-in-law's birthday.
[I promise not to gloat.
]
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:09:56
Damn, that's deep. Well, let's see what comes of it. I'd love to see some real diplomacy take off. Would it have the long-term effect of further marginalizing the GOP?
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:09:56
Quote by BobR:
wow - that is a GREAT question. If the Iranians are willing to work with Obama, what the hell is wrong with the Republicans?
Damn, that's deep. Well, let's see what comes of it. I'd love to see some real diplomacy take off. Would it have the long-term effect of further marginalizing the GOP?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:10:56
That's so cute :p
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:10:56
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
That's so cute :p
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:13:25
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:13:25
"Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. "
Like Raine said a few days back.....Rush wants America to fail. He's said so. He's rallying his followers to that effect.
You do the math.
Like Raine said a few days back.....Rush wants America to fail. He's said so. He's rallying his followers to that effect.
You do the math.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:14:51
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:14:51
Dick Armey should never be allowed back on Hardball again.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:14:52
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:14:52
Dick Armey should never be allowed back on Hardball again.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:16:56
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:16:56
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:18:41
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:18:41
Exxon/Mobile shatters own record for profits
EDIT: This part kills me:
EDIT: This part kills me:
the fourth quarter alone crude tumbled 60 percent, prompting spending and job cuts in an industry that was reporting robust, often record, profits as recently as last summer.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:19:30
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:19:30
gawd, it's become like bark park you can't not say it Bret Barr
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:22:03
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:22:03
Exxon Mobile records profits that Shatter previous records.
Exxon Mobil Corp. on Friday reported a profit of $45.2 billion for 2008, breaking its own record for a U.S. company, even as its fourth-quarter earnings fell 33 percent from a year ago.
The previous record for annual profit was $40.6 billion, which the world's largest publicly traded oil company set in 2007.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:22:36
:beer:
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:22:36
Quote by BobR:
Exxon/Mobile shatters own record for profits
EDIT: This part kills me:the fourth quarter alone crude tumbled 60 percent, prompting spending and job cuts in an industry that was reporting robust, often record, profits as recently as last summer.
:beer:
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:23:29
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:23:29
What slays me about that, Bob is PROOF that many of these big companies DO NOT HAVE TO LAY OFF WORKERS...
Comment by m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:23:48
I also love it :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:23:48
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
That's so cute :p
I also love it :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by 
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:25:43
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:25:43
This is what I like about the Recovery Bill:
SEC. 1201. TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:25:48
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:25:48
So I guess we should add the Wine emoticon? :D
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:26:38
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:26:38
Quote by BobR:
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:26:54
Step. Away. From the computer!
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:26:54
Quote by m-hadley:
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Step. Away. From the computer!
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:28:41
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:28:41
So, maybe Exxon could donate some of that profit to charities that provide low-cost heating oil for the desperate people in the Northern Tier?
After all, that great Socialist enemy of the people Hugo Chavez (via Citgo) does.
I wonder why Exxon hates America?
After all, that great Socialist enemy of the people Hugo Chavez (via Citgo) does.
I wonder why Exxon hates America?
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:31:00
I heard someone say that the Stimulus package isn't the biggest issue because "it's not like people are starving to death."
Really?
Hmm...
That may be true, but there are people LITERALLY freezing to death, in their homes; in The United States of America.
Ass hats!
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:31:00
Quote by TriSec:
So, maybe Exxon could donate some of that profit to charities that provide low-cost heating oil for the desperate people in the Northern Tier?
After all, that great Socialist enemy of the people Hugo Chavez (via Citgo) does.
I wonder why Exxon hates America?
I heard someone say that the Stimulus package isn't the biggest issue because "it's not like people are starving to death."
Really?
Hmm...
That may be true, but there are people LITERALLY freezing to death, in their homes; in The United States of America.
Ass hats!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:32:06
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:32:06
Speaking of Faux nooz.... Yesterday Bob and I went to lunch at a pub nearby. We were sitting at the *counter* 
and watching the WH press Secretary take questions... we were sitting in front of the TV that had CNN on, and Next to it, wass one that had Fox. CNN had about a 3 second delay, and both had closed captions on.
All of a sudden, Bob asked me, *What Language is that on Faux?* I looked over and I was astounded.
Let's say Gibbs said the following on CNN.. "We will continue, as the President Promised during his campaign, to work in a bi-partisan way, to get this stimulus package and other legislation passed."
On Faux it read something like this:
w wllcuntu ateh presnint prmded doincmpn twerkbprtsn tgulism sdf kjmner lgstshun pssd.
I swear on everything... it was THAT bad.
and watching the WH press Secretary take questions... we were sitting in front of the TV that had CNN on, and Next to it, wass one that had Fox. CNN had about a 3 second delay, and both had closed captions on. All of a sudden, Bob asked me, *What Language is that on Faux?* I looked over and I was astounded.
Let's say Gibbs said the following on CNN.. "We will continue, as the President Promised during his campaign, to work in a bi-partisan way, to get this stimulus package and other legislation passed."
On Faux it read something like this:
w wllcuntu ateh presnint prmded doincmpn twerkbprtsn tgulism sdf kjmner lgstshun pssd.
I swear on everything... it was THAT bad.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 15:35:41
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 15:35:41
What in the hell? I didn't think they had control over the closed captioning operators too..
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:35:51
And she continued to take the fertility drugs. This is the VERY height of irresponsibility. The drains on services, on the planet and the fact that how many children could have been adopted?
I won't bite my tongue. I hate this shit. We --understandably --- have a lot of people who are VERY VERY against puppy mills, people who feel that we should be adopting pets from Shelters... This situation isn't very different. If we are going to advocate for pets to be adopted from shelters, we should also advocate for responible breeding in human beings.
:rage:
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:35:51
Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
And she continued to take the fertility drugs. This is the VERY height of irresponsibility. The drains on services, on the planet and the fact that how many children could have been adopted?
I won't bite my tongue. I hate this shit. We --understandably --- have a lot of people who are VERY VERY against puppy mills, people who feel that we should be adopting pets from Shelters... This situation isn't very different. If we are going to advocate for pets to be adopted from shelters, we should also advocate for responible breeding in human beings.
:rage:
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:37:07
:rofl: I thought the same thing too! I asked bob if this was done on purpose.
It was like the person who was doing the closed captioning was drunk!
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:37:07
Quote by Scoopster:
What in the hell? I didn't think they had control over the closed captioning operators too..
It was like the person who was doing the closed captioning was drunk!
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:38:15
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:38:15
Re: Global Climate Change - We don't know for sure what causes Cancer either, but we still try to cure it!
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:39:44
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:39:44
I think a better analogy for the "Global Warming/Global climate change" comparison is when someone starts working out. They'll initially lose fat weight, but they might start gaining weight too as they gain muscle. Regardless, they are still getting healthier.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:42:48
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:42:48
Octuplet Family Filed for Bankruptcy... and more.
CBS News has learned that the family of the octuplets born this week outside Los Angeles filed for bankruptcy and abandoned a home a little over a year-and-a-half ago.
Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman says the mother is in her mid-thirties and lives with her parents.
There's been no mention of the octuplets' father, Kauffman observes.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:42:52
Yeah, that's true.
I just hate people obsessing over what the "cause" is. Who cares? We're here. Doesn't matter how we got here, let's just fix it.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:42:52
Quote by BobR:
I think a better analogy for the "Global Warming/Global climate change" comparison is when someone starts working out. They'll initially lose fat weight, but they might start gaining weight too as they gain muscle. Regardless, they are still getting healthier.
Yeah, that's true.
I just hate people obsessing over what the "cause" is. Who cares? We're here. Doesn't matter how we got here, let's just fix it.
Comment by m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:45:03
No worries Roomie,
Work is intervening - I gots to head out to the Ref Desk in a few minutes, no social networking going on there :D
Cheers,
mfaye
BTB, Who is SuperBowling this Sunday?
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 15:45:03
Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Step. Away. From the computer!
No worries Roomie,
Work is intervening - I gots to head out to the Ref Desk in a few minutes, no social networking going on there :D
Cheers,
mfaye
BTB, Who is SuperBowling this Sunday?
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 15:45:04
They can afford fertility drugs - and more children - when they're claiming bankruptcy??
BobR on 01/30/2009 15:45:04
Quote by Raine:
Octuplet Family Filed for Bankruptcy... and more.
They can afford fertility drugs - and more children - when they're claiming bankruptcy??
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:48:05
Jesus.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:48:05
Quote by Raine:
Octuplet Family Filed for Bankruptcy... and more.CBS News has learned that the family of the octuplets born this week outside Los Angeles filed for bankruptcy and abandoned a home a little over a year-and-a-half ago.
Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman says the mother is in her mid-thirties and lives with her parents.
There's been no mention of the octuplets' father, Kauffman observes.
Jesus.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:49:45
I'm still trying to figure out why she did it. I mean she's single, lives at home, has not significant other (not that that matter), in her 20's, and has 6 other kids. What is so wrong in your life that you have to have more?
Am I being callus? Am I missing something? :scratchhead:
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:49:45
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
And she continued to take the fertility drugs. This is the VERY height of irresponsibility. The drains on services, on the planet and the fact that how many children could have been adopted?
I won't bite my tongue. I hate this shit. We --understandably --- have a lot of people who are VERY VERY against puppy mills, people who feel that we should be adopting pets from Shelters... This situation isn't very different. If we are going to advocate for pets to be adopted from shelters, we should also advocate for responible breeding in human beings.
:rage:
I'm still trying to figure out why she did it. I mean she's single, lives at home, has not significant other (not that that matter), in her 20's, and has 6 other kids. What is so wrong in your life that you have to have more?
Am I being callus? Am I missing something? :scratchhead:
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:50:45
hmmm - people really need to re-evaluate their priorities
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:50:45
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Octuplet Family Filed for Bankruptcy... and more.
They can afford fertility drugs - and more children - when they're claiming bankruptcy??
hmmm - people really need to re-evaluate their priorities
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:51:53
Maybe she's a Christian Conservative who believes that you can only Fornicate with the intention to Procreate.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 15:51:53
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
And she continued to take the fertility drugs. This is the VERY height of irresponsibility. The drains on services, on the planet and the fact that how many children could have been adopted?
I won't bite my tongue. I hate this shit. We --understandably --- have a lot of people who are VERY VERY against puppy mills, people who feel that we should be adopting pets from Shelters... This situation isn't very different. If we are going to advocate for pets to be adopted from shelters, we should also advocate for responible breeding in human beings.
:rage:
I'm still trying to figure out why she did it. I mean she's single, lives at home, has not significant other (not that that matter), in her 20's, and has 6 other kids. What is so wrong in your life that you have to have more?
Am I being callus? Am I missing something? :scratchhead:
Maybe she's a Christian Conservative who believes that you can only Fornicate with the intention to Procreate.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:52:53
Callus? No, I don't think so. Did you see the second article? She also abandonded a house-- Ther eare SO many things wrong with this storyI can't even begin.
WHY did they implant her? What is wrong with people. and I have to ask, what is wrong with this woman? I am quite serious here.
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:52:53
Quote by wickedpam:
I'm still trying to figure out why she did it. I mean she's single, lives at home, has not significant other (not that that matter), in her 20's, and has 6 other kids. What is so wrong in your life that you have to have more?
Am I being callus? Am I missing something? :scratchhead:
WHY did they implant her? What is wrong with people. and I have to ask, what is wrong with this woman? I am quite serious here.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:53:21
she was implanted so she cheated
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 15:53:21
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:
As if having a litter of 8 children wasn't bad enough, the family of the octuplets already had 6 other children.
:thud:
I nearly bit my tongue off when I read that. I shall refrain from comment.
And she continued to take the fertility drugs. This is the VERY height of irresponsibility. The drains on services, on the planet and the fact that how many children could have been adopted?
I won't bite my tongue. I hate this shit. We --understandably --- have a lot of people who are VERY VERY against puppy mills, people who feel that we should be adopting pets from Shelters... This situation isn't very different. If we are going to advocate for pets to be adopted from shelters, we should also advocate for responible breeding in human beings.
:rage:
I'm still trying to figure out why she did it. I mean she's single, lives at home, has not significant other (not that that matter), in her 20's, and has 6 other kids. What is so wrong in your life that you have to have more?
Am I being callus? Am I missing something? :scratchhead:
Maybe she's a Christian Conservative who believes that you can only Fornicate with the intention to Procreate.
she was implanted so she cheated
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 15:55:32
Sorry, Her Grandfather is from Iraq.
Raine on 01/30/2009 15:55:32
Quote by Raine:I dunno if she is christian, She is however-- from Iraq.Quote by starling310:
Maybe she's a Christian Conservative who believes that you can only Fornicate with the intention to Procreate.
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:55:43
Most advanced reproductive therapies are against Christian dogma.
Trust me, I know.
TriSec on 01/30/2009 15:55:43
Quote by starling310:
Maybe she's a Christian Conservative who believes that you can only Fornicate with the intention to Procreate.
Most advanced reproductive therapies are against Christian dogma.
Trust me, I know.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 16:01:22
I wish.. haven't had anything to fill it in months.
Oh wait you mean the game!
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 16:01:22
Quote by m-hadley:
BTB, Who is SuperBowling this Sunday?
I wish.. haven't had anything to fill it in months.
Oh wait you mean the game!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:05:50
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:05:50
Buzz right now is that Saul Anuzis is ahead in the RNC Chair vote.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:07:07
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:07:07
And for those interested... the people elected the RNC chair today are NOT elected officials. Should be interesting.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:08:53
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:08:53
One of the nominees just said the GOP should be about inclusion, not Outreach. :huh:
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 16:10:38
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 16:10:38
Another sign of the times. (Kudos to wyldberi at UNN for finding this. It is a few days old, but I suspect that we will see more stories like this.)
Romulus boy, 8, lived for 10 days with dead mom.
How many forgotten children and adults are there in this country? How many more must suffer or die before some people act in what has become the winter of our discontent?
Romulus boy, 8, lived for 10 days with dead mom.
How many forgotten children and adults are there in this country? How many more must suffer or die before some people act in what has become the winter of our discontent?
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:11:09
TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:11:09
Curiously enough, I know about blowfish toxins.
Blowfish is a delicacy in Japan. The chefs must be certified and trained, as they cut away the portions of fish where the toxins are concentrated. (primarily the liver and other internal organs.)
However, many elite in Japan want to eat these parts of the fish, so they pay 'unauthorized' chefs to prepare these illegal bits of the fish for their consumption.
Most of them get away with it, but a handful of people die every year from consuming these items.
Blowfish is a delicacy in Japan. The chefs must be certified and trained, as they cut away the portions of fish where the toxins are concentrated. (primarily the liver and other internal organs.)
However, many elite in Japan want to eat these parts of the fish, so they pay 'unauthorized' chefs to prepare these illegal bits of the fish for their consumption.
Most of them get away with it, but a handful of people die every year from consuming these items.
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:13:00
Christ Will, I wish I hadn't read that. I need to talk a walk.
TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:13:00
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Another sign of the times. (Kudos to wyldberi at UNN for finding this. It is a few days old, but I suspect that we will see more stories like this.)
Romulus boy, 8, lived for 10 days with dead mom.
How many forgotten children and adults are there in this country? How many more must suffer or die before some people act in what has become the winter of our discontent?
Christ Will, I wish I hadn't read that. I need to talk a walk.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:14:11
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:14:11
Good morning everyone.
I either need a job change or at least a schedule change so I can get up and listen to the show in full and am able to get to the blog on time.
So, how is everyone today?
I either need a job change or at least a schedule change so I can get up and listen to the show in full and am able to get to the blog on time.
So, how is everyone today?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:14:16
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:14:16
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Another sign of the times. (Kudos to wyldberi at UNN for finding this. It is a few days old, but I suspect that we will see more stories like this.)
Romulus boy, 8, lived for 10 days with dead mom.
How many forgotten children and adults are there in this country? How many more must suffer or die before some people act in what has become the winter of our discontent?
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:17:37
These days the bulk of my social life is online. But at least I have a great group of friends there.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:17:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by m-hadley:
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
and they claimed being online would make one anti-social :p
These days the bulk of my social life is online. But at least I have a great group of friends there.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:19:22
Can we add this one? Pretty please with sugar on it?
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:19:22
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Can we add this one? Pretty please with sugar on it?
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:22:13
I wonder if that's why some of my local Exxon stations have changed over to Gulf?
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:22:13
Quote by BobR:
Exxon/Mobile shatters own record for profits
EDIT: This part kills me:the fourth quarter alone crude tumbled 60 percent, prompting spending and job cuts in an industry that was reporting robust, often record, profits as recently as last summer.
I wonder if that's why some of my local Exxon stations have changed over to Gulf?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:24:38
:hug:
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:24:38
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by m-hadley:
Thanks for the uplifting post, BobR :D
Happee Fridee everybodee,
I fear I may be entering into a virtual social networking overload zone - I was playing around on my StephSpace last night and this morning at work, I realized that I not only wanted to check the MySpace page and the FaceCrack page, but now I also need to check my StephSpace page - this is getting a skosh ridiculous :P
Cheers,
mfaye
and they claimed being online would make one anti-social :p
These days the bulk of my social life is online. But at least I have a great group of friends there.
:hug:
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 16:24:42
Will in Chicago on 01/30/2009 16:24:42
It's been two years since the passing of a great progressive and a great American writer named Molly Ivins. Here are some thoughts from her former personal assistant, courtesy of Buzzflash.
Betsy Moon: What Would Molly Ivins Think?
A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Betsy Moon
JANUARY 31, 2007, IS THE TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF MOLLY IVINS' DEATH. THE FOLLOWING COLUMN WAS WRITTEN BY MOLLY IVINS' FORMER ASSISTANT AND "CHIEF OF STUFF" FROM 2001 TO 2007, BETSY MOON. Betsy sent it personally to us for posting on BuzzFlash.
AUSTIN, Texas -- The question I have been asked most often during the last two years is, "What would Molly think about this?" Molly Ivins would have loved this election. She would have loved the beautiful sight of "We the People" finally stepping up to become the real deciders. She would have loved the drama, the comedy and the characters.
We miss her regular twice-weekly comments and insights, and want to hear her dissect, slice and dice, and make fun of the events and revelations of the week. No one could do it like she did. She made us feel like we weren't alone. She made us want to be our better selves and stand up and use our power. She would be so proud that we finally woke up and worked to make this happen.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:25:20
I was listening to Lynn Samuels mention the story of a 93-year old WWII vet who froze to death in his home because his electricity was cut off. His body was found with some money that was gathered together apparently to pay his bill. The indoors temperature in his home was 32 degrees.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:25:20
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
So, maybe Exxon could donate some of that profit to charities that provide low-cost heating oil for the desperate people in the Northern Tier?
After all, that great Socialist enemy of the people Hugo Chavez (via Citgo) does.
I wonder why Exxon hates America?
I heard someone say that the Stimulus package isn't the biggest issue because "it's not like people are starving to death."
Really?
Hmm...
That may be true, but there are people LITERALLY freezing to death, in their homes; in The United States of America.
Ass hats!
I was listening to Lynn Samuels mention the story of a 93-year old WWII vet who froze to death in his home because his electricity was cut off. His body was found with some money that was gathered together apparently to pay his bill. The indoors temperature in his home was 32 degrees.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:29:34
:cry:
Thats as bad as the story I heard on the radio yesterday about the 93 year old WWII vet who's heat got turned off when he didn't pay the bill for 3 months. He had the money to pay but no one checked on him. It's so sad :(
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:29:34
Quote by Raine:Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Another sign of the times. (Kudos to wyldberi at UNN for finding this. It is a few days old, but I suspect that we will see more stories like this.)
Romulus boy, 8, lived for 10 days with dead mom.
How many forgotten children and adults are there in this country? How many more must suffer or die before some people act in what has become the winter of our discontent?
:cry:
Thats as bad as the story I heard on the radio yesterday about the 93 year old WWII vet who's heat got turned off when he didn't pay the bill for 3 months. He had the money to pay but no one checked on him. It's so sad :(
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:30:42
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:30:42
that'll teach me to refresh before I post
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:33:27
Hopefully she was able to see it from above.
Damn onions.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:33:27
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
It's been two years since the passing of a great progressive and a great American writer named Molly Ivins. Here are some thoughts from her former personal assistant, courtesy of Buzzflash.Betsy Moon: What Would Molly Ivins Think?
A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Betsy Moon
JANUARY 31, 2007, IS THE TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF MOLLY IVINS' DEATH. THE FOLLOWING COLUMN WAS WRITTEN BY MOLLY IVINS' FORMER ASSISTANT AND "CHIEF OF STUFF" FROM 2001 TO 2007, BETSY MOON. Betsy sent it personally to us for posting on BuzzFlash.
AUSTIN, Texas -- The question I have been asked most often during the last two years is, "What would Molly think about this?" Molly Ivins would have loved this election. She would have loved the beautiful sight of "We the People" finally stepping up to become the real deciders. She would have loved the drama, the comedy and the characters.
We miss her regular twice-weekly comments and insights, and want to hear her dissect, slice and dice, and make fun of the events and revelations of the week. No one could do it like she did. She made us feel like we weren't alone. She made us want to be our better selves and stand up and use our power. She would be so proud that we finally woke up and worked to make this happen.
Hopefully she was able to see it from above.
Damn onions.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:38:37
Yup! That is the story I was talking about.
Even ONE person freezing in their home in America is too many.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:38:37
Quote by livingonli:
I was listening to Lynn Samuels mention the story of a 93-year old WWII vet who froze to death in his home because his electricity was cut off. His body was found with some money that was gathered together apparently to pay his bill. The indoors temperature in his home was 32 degrees.
Yup! That is the story I was talking about.
Even ONE person freezing in their home in America is too many.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:42:33
: wine :
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:42:33
: wine :
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:43:32
Wow. Just wow.
Damn dust...
starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:43:32
"Every time someone down the line is irreverent about authority, I'll have my monument. Every time some kid who was born a nigger, a kike, a wop, a Polack, a gook, a gimp, a fag, or just a plain maverick lifts up her head and dares anyone to stop her, I'll have my monument. Every time they peaceably assemble to petition their government for redress of a grievance, I'll be there. Whenever they worship as they please (or not at all), I'll be there. Whenever they speak up and speak out and raise hell, I'll be there. And every time some blue-bellied, full-blooded nincompoop who holds elected office is called to the floor for deciding to keep us safe by rewriting the Constitution, or by suspending due process and holding a citizen indefinitely without legal representation, I'll be there. Now that is immortality. I don't have any children, so I've decided to claim all the future freedom-fighters and hell-raisers as my kin. I figure freedom and justice beat having my name in marble any day. Besides, if there is another life after this one, think how much we'll get to laugh watching it all."
Wow. Just wow.
Damn dust...
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:47:13
Thank you.
:wine:
Cheers!
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:47:13
Quote by Raine:
: wine :
Thank you.
:wine:
Cheers!
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:47:21
TriSec on 01/30/2009 16:47:21
I just got my schedule at the store for the next few weeks.
Looks like a TriSecian tradition is another casualty of the Bush Economy.
Since before we were married, Mrs. TriSec and I have maintained a policy of not working on Valentine's Day. That's the one day of the year that belongs to US...no Javi, no work, no family, just us.
I think I have only worked one February 14 in the 12 years we've been married.
But because I need two jobs to survive, I'm working this year. Afternoon/Evening too....so we can't even go out.
Thanks again, "President" Bush!
Looks like a TriSecian tradition is another casualty of the Bush Economy.
Since before we were married, Mrs. TriSec and I have maintained a policy of not working on Valentine's Day. That's the one day of the year that belongs to US...no Javi, no work, no family, just us.
I think I have only worked one February 14 in the 12 years we've been married.
But because I need two jobs to survive, I'm working this year. Afternoon/Evening too....so we can't even go out.
Thanks again, "President" Bush!
Comment by 
Random on 01/30/2009 16:47:28
:wine:
Should have been called : momma :
Random on 01/30/2009 16:47:28
Quote by Raine:
: wine :
:wine:
Should have been called : momma :
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:49:07
When I grow up... I want to be just like Molly... :cry:
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:49:07
Quote by starling310:"Every time someone down the line is irreverent about authority, I'll have my monument. Every time some kid who was born a nigger, a kike, a wop, a Polack, a gook, a gimp, a fag, or just a plain maverick lifts up her head and dares anyone to stop her, I'll have my monument. Every time they peaceably assemble to petition their government for redress of a grievance, I'll be there. Whenever they worship as they please (or not at all), I'll be there. Whenever they speak up and speak out and raise hell, I'll be there. And every time some blue-bellied, full-blooded nincompoop who holds elected office is called to the floor for deciding to keep us safe by rewriting the Constitution, or by suspending due process and holding a citizen indefinitely without legal representation, I'll be there. Now that is immortality. I don't have any children, so I've decided to claim all the future freedom-fighters and hell-raisers as my kin. I figure freedom and justice beat having my name in marble any day. Besides, if there is another life after this one, think how much we'll get to laugh watching it all."
Wow. Just wow.
Damn dust...
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 16:50:09
BobR on 01/30/2009 16:50:09
ruined sheets?... ewwww....
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:50:20
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:50:20
:puke: Kevin... Please... PLEASE....
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:52:45
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:52:45
no frangela today? :(
Hey where's all the emoticons go?
Hey where's all the emoticons go?
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:55:32
starling310 on 01/30/2009 16:55:32
A SHUG!?!?
That's my license plate : " SHUG "
That's my license plate : " SHUG "
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:55:49
That was just wrong. A big, giant TMI.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:55:49
Quote by Raine:
:puke: Kevin... Please... PLEASE....
That was just wrong. A big, giant TMI.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 16:55:54
Raine on 01/30/2009 16:55:54
''We shouldn't make policy decisions based on human rights and legal advocacy groups,'' Fmr USS Cole Commander on why we should not close Gitmo.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:56:48
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:56:48
It's NATIONAL!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:58:03
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 16:58:03
National, National, National, National, National, National Airport. True locals only call it that :modbat:
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:59:40
livingonli on 01/30/2009 16:59:40
So now they have a chat room. Oh, boy. Just hope Kevin in DC doesn't pop in there.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 17:04:07
It will always be National to me.
Raine on 01/30/2009 17:04:07
Quote by wickedpam:
It's NATIONAL!
It will always be National to me.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 17:04:57
Raine on 01/30/2009 17:04:57
What is the Diff between a chat room and a live blog?
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:06:30
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:06:30
Meh. Morning from sinus central. My eyes feel like they are going to pop out my heed. Ugh.
The octuplet woman is just plain greedy. For a while Mrs Mondo was looking at a mom board. There was one woman on there who already had three kids, the doctors told her if you get pregnant again your uterus will fall out. What did she do? Yes, got pregnant. And she and her husband adopted too. Can you provide for all these kids?
The octuplet woman is just plain greedy. For a while Mrs Mondo was looking at a mom board. There was one woman on there who already had three kids, the doctors told her if you get pregnant again your uterus will fall out. What did she do? Yes, got pregnant. And she and her husband adopted too. Can you provide for all these kids?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:07:32
:lip curl: Who called it the insulting name?
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:07:32
Quote by wickedpam:
It's NATIONAL!
:lip curl: Who called it the insulting name?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 17:08:40
Raine on 01/30/2009 17:08:40
For those that really want to watch what the Cons are up too... I present this:
http://tcotreport.com/
http://tcotreport.com/
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 17:10:40
people type faster then I can read either way
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 17:10:40
Quote by Raine:
What is the Diff between a chat room and a live blog?
people type faster then I can read either way
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:11:10
mostly in which the speed people interact.
We here are like a live blog, talking back and forth conversing.
A chat room is more immediate, the browser doesn't need to reload every time a post is made. So it's much faster on a back and fourth.
Random on 01/30/2009 17:11:10
Quote by Raine:
What is the Diff between a chat room and a live blog?
mostly in which the speed people interact.
We here are like a live blog, talking back and forth conversing.
A chat room is more immediate, the browser doesn't need to reload every time a post is made. So it's much faster on a back and fourth.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 17:11:45
it was mentioned in passing that some uninformed call it the r word
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 17:11:45
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's NATIONAL!
:lip curl: Who called it the insulting name?
it was mentioned in passing that some uninformed call it the r word
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 17:14:08
Ok, so it's not really communication, it's spurting things out. I like live blogging. I can't move that fast. That is what bars are for!
Raine on 01/30/2009 17:14:08
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
What is the Diff between a chat room and a live blog?
mostly in which the speed people interact.
We here are like a live blog, talking back and forth conversing.
A chat room is more immediate, the browser doesn't need to reload every time a post is made. So it's much faster on a back and fourth.
Ok, so it's not really communication, it's spurting things out. I like live blogging. I can't move that fast. That is what bars are for!
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:18:58
not quite. Twittering is just spurting things out.
chat rooms let people react to eachother more quickly, think of it like talking in real life.
Random on 01/30/2009 17:18:58
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
What is the Diff between a chat room and a live blog?
mostly in which the speed people interact.
We here are like a live blog, talking back and forth conversing.
A chat room is more immediate, the browser doesn't need to reload every time a post is made. So it's much faster on a back and fourth.
Ok, so it's not really communication, it's spurting things out. I like live blogging. I can't move that fast. That is what bars are for!
not quite. Twittering is just spurting things out.
chat rooms let people react to eachother more quickly, think of it like talking in real life.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:20:28
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
Random on 01/30/2009 17:20:28
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's NATIONAL!
:lip curl: Who called it the insulting name?
it was mentioned in passing that some uninformed call it the r word
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 17:24:16
KDCA.
TriSec on 01/30/2009 17:24:16
Quote by Random:
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
KDCA.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:25:08
Oh god...Tom's thing with Joe the Unlicensed plumber...ohh god...
Random on 01/30/2009 17:25:08
Oh god...Tom's thing with Joe the Unlicensed plumber...ohh god...
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:26:50
An airport. National Airport in Arlington, VA. Back in the early heady days of the "Republican Revolution" of the early 90s one of the things those mooks did was try to get everything possible named for Ronald Reagan. Not having any sense of irony, the named a Federal Building for him and an airport (National). This is a deadly insult to every single PATCO air traffic controller that Reagan fired when he decided to break their union.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:26:50
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's NATIONAL!
:lip curl: Who called it the insulting name?
it was mentioned in passing that some uninformed call it the r word
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
An airport. National Airport in Arlington, VA. Back in the early heady days of the "Republican Revolution" of the early 90s one of the things those mooks did was try to get everything possible named for Ronald Reagan. Not having any sense of irony, the named a Federal Building for him and an airport (National). This is a deadly insult to every single PATCO air traffic controller that Reagan fired when he decided to break their union.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:28:50
Random on 01/30/2009 17:28:50
Well...thanks then Mondo...
Now I can't call it that just to poke your buttons...
Make me feel bad.
Now I can't call it that just to poke your buttons...
Make me feel bad.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:31:25
:massive condescension: :pats Tri on the head: Its so good you know your international airport codes.
I kid because I love, Tri.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 17:31:25
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
KDCA.
:massive condescension: :pats Tri on the head: Its so good you know your international airport codes.
I kid because I love, Tri.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 17:34:46
I am so glad you got to hear that!
I could never have described it to you and given it justice.
Raine on 01/30/2009 17:34:46
Quote by Random:
Oh god...Tom's thing with Joe the Unlicensed plumber...ohh god...
I could never have described it to you and given it justice.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 17:45:51
Oh...Advice Column...Geez...YES!
That is...just...you can Here the Joe is a little confused by it. Especially since Thom kept bringing his trip over seas...HA!
Random on 01/30/2009 17:45:51
Quote by Raine:I am so glad you got to hear that!Quote by Random:
Oh god...Tom's thing with Joe the Unlicensed plumber...ohh god...
I could never have described it to you and given it justice.
Oh...Advice Column...Geez...YES!
That is...just...you can Here the Joe is a little confused by it. Especially since Thom kept bringing his trip over seas...HA!
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 18:00:11
TriSec on 01/30/2009 18:00:11
Well of course I know my IATA codes. Sheesh!
: storms off :
: storms off :
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:11:11
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:11:11
Thom's rant was makin me hot. . .
Then he said "ways to skin this cat."
:puke:
Then he said "ways to skin this cat."
:puke:
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:15:59
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:15:59
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:20:39
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:20:39
This is where I welled up:
:cry:
Damn PMS!
Who will be eligble for health care coverage under H.R. 676?
All Americans will be eligible for health care coverage. . .
:cry:
Damn PMS!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 18:20:59
: shouts at Tri's retreating back : You wouldn't be much of an av-dork if you didn't!
:rofl: :poke:
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 18:20:59
Quote by TriSec:
Well of course I know my IATA codes. Sheesh!
: storms off :
: shouts at Tri's retreating back : You wouldn't be much of an av-dork if you didn't!
:rofl: :poke:
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:23:06
: stands next to Mondo : : hands on hips :
YEAH TRI!!!
: whispers to Mondo :
psst...i have no idea what you're talking about.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:23:06
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Well of course I know my IATA codes. Sheesh!
: storms off :
: shouts at Tri's retreating back : You wouldn't be much of an av-dork if you didn't!
:rofl: :poke:
: stands next to Mondo : : hands on hips :
YEAH TRI!!!
: whispers to Mondo :
psst...i have no idea what you're talking about.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:25:16
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:25:16
Oooh....
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FDR!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FDR!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 18:30:44
:spit:
DEEEEElightful!
Well played, Madam. Well played indeed! MGM would be so proud! :single tear courses down cheek:
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 18:30:44
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Well of course I know my IATA codes. Sheesh!
: storms off :
: shouts at Tri's retreating back : You wouldn't be much of an av-dork if you didn't!
:rofl: :poke:
: stands next to Mondo : : hands on hips :
YEAH TRI!!!
: whispers to Mondo :
psst...i have no idea what you're talking about.
:spit:
DEEEEElightful!
Well played, Madam. Well played indeed! MGM would be so proud! :single tear courses down cheek:
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:32:17
. . . . . . . .
:cry:
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:32:17
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Well of course I know my IATA codes. Sheesh!
: storms off :
: shouts at Tri's retreating back : You wouldn't be much of an av-dork if you didn't!
:rofl: :poke:
: stands next to Mondo : : hands on hips :
YEAH TRI!!!
: whispers to Mondo :
psst...i have no idea what you're talking about.
:spit:
DEEEEElightful!
Well played, Madam. Well played indeed! MGM would be so proud! :single tear courses down cheek:
. . . . . . . . :cry:
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:32:40
I'm with you on that one.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:32:40
Quote by starling310:
This is where I welled up:Who will be eligble for health care coverage under H.R. 676?
All Americans will be eligible for health care coverage. . .
:cry:
Damn PMS!
I'm with you on that one.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:33:21
livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:33:21
Star, you need to friend mgm on facebook.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:35:41
Yeah. . . I should.
I miss my beloved Chris in Yankton.
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:35:41
Quote by livingonli:
Star, you need to friend mgm on facebook.
Yeah. . . I should.
I miss my beloved Chris in Yankton.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:36:14
You're ovulating?!?!
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:36:14
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:
This is where I welled up:Who will be eligble for health care coverage under H.R. 676?
All Americans will be eligible for health care coverage. . .
:cry:
Damn PMS!
I'm with you on that one.
You're ovulating?!?!
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:38:55
I meant in support of H.R. 676.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:38:55
Quote by starling310:Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:
This is where I welled up:Who will be eligble for health care coverage under H.R. 676?
All Americans will be eligible for health care coverage. . .
:cry:
Damn PMS!
I'm with you on that one.
You're ovulating?!?!
I meant in support of H.R. 676.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 18:39:43
Random on 01/30/2009 18:39:43
Random is confused...Maybe...not really...
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Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 18:40:40
TriSec on 01/30/2009 18:40:40
: pouts in corner of hangar :
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:40:52
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:40:52
Quote by livingonli:
I meant in support of H.R. 676.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:43:07
Sounds like you need a hug.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 18:43:07
Quote by TriSec:
: pouts in corner of hangar :
Sounds like you need a hug.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:43:24
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:43:24
". . the new mbaby. . ." :: whine ::
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:45:22
starling310 on 01/30/2009 18:45:22
Health Insurance Coverage shouldn't be contingent upon Employment. Period.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 18:48:29
Raine on 01/30/2009 18:48:29
:spit: :rofl:
Oh Liv and ... 
that was too funny!
Oh Liv and
... that was too funny!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 18:50:06
A hug?
Have you ever seen what disgruntled Av-Dorks are capable of?
Personally I am scared... :D
Raine on 01/30/2009 18:50:06
Quote by livingonli:Quote by TriSec:
: pouts in corner of hangar :
Sounds like you need a hug.
Have you ever seen what disgruntled Av-Dorks are capable of?
Personally I am scared... :D
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 18:57:18
Random on 01/30/2009 18:57:18
DAMN!!!!!
I'm not that much of an asshole...
I feel robbed.
I'm not that much of an asshole...
I feel robbed.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 18:58:10
Raine on 01/30/2009 18:58:10
..and now... It is really looking like Michael Steele is in the lead for the RNC chair. They are still voting... Jeepers it took less time for the Iowa Caucus...
Comment by m-hadley on 01/30/2009 19:01:27
Thanks Will and Livin,
I read that yesterday and didn't share it - what was I thinking? Guess I wasn't :(
Powerful stuff, God I miss Molly :cry:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 19:01:27
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Will in Phoenix:
It's been two years since the passing of a great progressive and a great American writer named Molly Ivins. Here are some thoughts from her former personal assistant, courtesy of Buzzflash.Betsy Moon: What Would Molly Ivins Think?
A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Betsy Moon
JANUARY 31, 2007, IS THE TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF MOLLY IVINS' DEATH. THE FOLLOWING COLUMN WAS WRITTEN BY MOLLY IVINS' FORMER ASSISTANT AND "CHIEF OF STUFF" FROM 2001 TO 2007, BETSY MOON. Betsy sent it personally to us for posting on BuzzFlash.
AUSTIN, Texas -- The question I have been asked most often during the last two years is, "What would Molly think about this?" Molly Ivins would have loved this election. She would have loved the beautiful sight of "We the People" finally stepping up to become the real deciders. She would have loved the drama, the comedy and the characters.
We miss her regular twice-weekly comments and insights, and want to hear her dissect, slice and dice, and make fun of the events and revelations of the week. No one could do it like she did. She made us feel like we weren't alone. She made us want to be our better selves and stand up and use our power. She would be so proud that we finally woke up and worked to make this happen.
Hopefully she was able to see it from above.
Damn onions.
Thanks Will and Livin,
I read that yesterday and didn't share it - what was I thinking? Guess I wasn't :(
Powerful stuff, God I miss Molly :cry:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:01:32
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:01:32
Wow... A black man as the head of the RNC? Seriously... this may actually happen.
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 19:03:10
Random on 01/30/2009 19:03:10
...
Random has the best job in the world.
Currently cataloging photos of Cassandra Peterson.
Random has the best job in the world.
Currently cataloging photos of Cassandra Peterson.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:05:56
the Mistress known as Elvira?
NICE!
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:05:56
Quote by Random:
...
Random has the best job in the world.
Currently cataloging photos of Cassandra Peterson.
the Mistress known as Elvira?
NICE!
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 19:09:08
Yes...Yes...Random will now stop complaining about his job...Now he's just got to find away to sneak these photos out... << >>
Random on 01/30/2009 19:09:08
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
...
Random has the best job in the world.
Currently cataloging photos of Cassandra Peterson.
the Mistress known as Elvira?
NICE!
Yes...Yes...Random will now stop complaining about his job...Now he's just got to find away to sneak these photos out... << >>
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 19:13:42
hmmm - is that as bad as my color turn of phrase "you can't swing a dead cat with out hitting __________"(insert the most plentiful thing in area)
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 19:13:42
Quote by starling310:
Thom's rant was makin me hot. . .
Then he said "ways to skin this cat."
:puke:
hmmm - is that as bad as my color turn of phrase "you can't swing a dead cat with out hitting __________"(insert the most plentiful thing in area)
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 19:14:11
: laughs maniacally :
TriSec on 01/30/2009 19:14:11
Quote by Raine:
A hug?
Have you ever seen what disgruntled Av-Dorks are capable of?
Personally I am scared... :D
: laughs maniacally :
Comment by wickedpam on 01/30/2009 19:14:49
does this mean will have to hear that hoax of an oreo story over and over again?
wickedpam on 01/30/2009 19:14:49
Quote by Raine:
Wow... A black man as the head of the RNC? Seriously... this may actually happen.
does this mean will have to hear that hoax of an oreo story over and over again?
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:15:22
Ooh, sneak away. To share is to care.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:15:22
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
...
Random has the best job in the world.
Currently cataloging photos of Cassandra Peterson.
the Mistress known as Elvira?
NICE!
Yes...Yes...Random will now stop complaining about his job...Now he's just got to find away to sneak these photos out... << >>
Ooh, sneak away. To share is to care.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:16:10
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:16:10
4th round of Voting for the RNC Chair... I am serious about this... 85 votes out of about 160 need to happen --- and last round it was Steele 65 votes...
It is REALLY looking like Steele is going to head the RNC. The real question is... will anyone in the RNC respect him?
I know we respected Howard Dean and we respect Tim Kaine.... Right?
It is REALLY looking like Steele is going to head the RNC. The real question is... will anyone in the RNC respect him?
I know we respected Howard Dean and we respect Tim Kaine.... Right?
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:16:28
livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:16:28
Listening to Jon Stewart play Hannity's Hate Hotline.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:16:58
It will be the new GOP platform about reaching out!
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:16:58
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Wow... A black man as the head of the RNC? Seriously... this may actually happen.
does this mean will have to hear that hoax of an oreo story over and over again?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:21:42
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:21:42
Mike Duncan is now out of the race for the next RNC chair.
Really, it is a race between Blackwell and Steele.
How about that?
Really, it is a race between Blackwell and Steele.
How about that?
Comment by Random on 01/30/2009 19:24:07
...Sure, we respected Howard Dean.
It's not like he over reacted, disenfranchising two states which turned out to be a key in the primary, which led to infighting among the Democrats, that have left an entire part of the party claiming that the election of Barack Obama was fraudulent...right...
Random on 01/30/2009 19:24:07
Quote by Raine:
4th round of Voting for the RNC Chair... I am serious about this... 85 votes out of about 160 need to happen --- and last round it was Steele 65 votes...
It is REALLY looking like Steele is going to head the RNC. The real question is... will anyone in the RNC respect him?
I know we respected Howard Dean and we respect Tim Kaine.... Right?
...Sure, we respected Howard Dean.
It's not like he over reacted, disenfranchising two states which turned out to be a key in the primary, which led to infighting among the Democrats, that have left an entire part of the party claiming that the election of Barack Obama was fraudulent...right...
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:31:12
Irony. Then again, Blackwell is probably someone who would be considered a perfect Uncle Tom. I don't know if Steele's politics is as reactionary as Blackwell's.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 19:31:12
Quote by Raine:
Mike Duncan is now out of the race for the next RNC chair.
Really, it is a race between Blackwell and Steele.
How about that?
Irony. Then again, Blackwell is probably someone who would be considered a perfect Uncle Tom. I don't know if Steele's politics is as reactionary as Blackwell's.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:32:35
I do not want to bring up old wounds... but WHO did that exactly???
Dean Enforced party rules. It was the STATES that tried to circumvent those rules... and I do not want to go into who tried to capitolize on that by claiming his nomination was fraudulent.
Those states ended up being counted, by a LOT of diplomacy that is currently being put to good use in the State Department.
Don't put that on Dean. If it wasn't for the 50 State strategy, we would not be here today, politically.
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:32:35
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
4th round of Voting for the RNC Chair... I am serious about this... 85 votes out of about 160 need to happen --- and last round it was Steele 65 votes...
It is REALLY looking like Steele is going to head the RNC. The real question is... will anyone in the RNC respect him?
I know we respected Howard Dean and we respect Tim Kaine.... Right?
...Sure, we respected Howard Dean.
It's not like he over reacted, disenfranchising two states which turned out to be a key in the primary, which led to infighting among the Democrats, that have left an entire part of the party claiming that the election of Barack Obama was fraudulent...right...
Dean Enforced party rules. It was the STATES that tried to circumvent those rules... and I do not want to go into who tried to capitolize on that by claiming his nomination was fraudulent.
Those states ended up being counted, by a LOT of diplomacy that is currently being put to good use in the State Department.
Don't put that on Dean. If it wasn't for the 50 State strategy, we would not be here today, politically.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 19:47:47
Ummm yeah.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 19:47:47
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Wow... A black man as the head of the RNC? Seriously... this may actually happen.
does this mean will have to hear that hoax of an oreo story over and over again?
Ummm yeah.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:51:44
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:51:44
Aww. Thom.
:hug: I will keep your mom and you brother in my prayers.
:hug: I will keep your mom and you brother in my prayers.
Comment by m-hadley on 01/30/2009 19:53:06
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Ms. Raine,
I truly appreciate you standing up for the good Doctor Dean - his fifty-state strategy IS the reason why we have the White House and both chambers of Congress right now - Bravo Raine and Dr., Chairman, Gov. Dean :clap:
Bravo!
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
m-hadley on 01/30/2009 19:53:06
Quote by Raine:I do not want to bring up old wounds... but WHO did that exactly???Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
4th round of Voting for the RNC Chair... I am serious about this... 85 votes out of about 160 need to happen --- and last round it was Steele 65 votes...
It is REALLY looking like Steele is going to head the RNC. The real question is... will anyone in the RNC respect him?
I know we respected Howard Dean and we respect Tim Kaine.... Right?
...Sure, we respected Howard Dean.
It's not like he over reacted, disenfranchising two states which turned out to be a key in the primary, which led to infighting among the Democrats, that have left an entire part of the party claiming that the election of Barack Obama was fraudulent...right...
Dean Enforced party rules. It was the STATES that tried to circumvent those rules... and I do not want to go into who tried to capitolize on that by claiming his nomination was fraudulent.
Those states ended up being counted, by a LOT of diplomacy that is currently being put to good use in the State Department.
Don't put that on Dean. If it wasn't for the 50 State strategy, we would not be here today, politically.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Ms. Raine,
I truly appreciate you standing up for the good Doctor Dean - his fifty-state strategy IS the reason why we have the White House and both chambers of Congress right now - Bravo
Raine and Dr., Chairman, Gov. Dean :clap:Bravo!
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 19:59:21
Yep, that'll just cause mass defections of African Americans to the GOP. :sarcasm:
Do you think for a minute that this isn't being stage managed to show how diverse the Republican really is???
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 19:59:21
Quote by Raine:
Mike Duncan is now out of the race for the next RNC chair.
Really, it is a race between Blackwell and Steele.
How about that?
Yep, that'll just cause mass defections of African Americans to the GOP. :sarcasm:
Do you think for a minute that this isn't being stage managed to show how diverse the Republican really is???
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 19:59:31
Raine on 01/30/2009 19:59:31
Why thank you Ms. Faye.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:03:28
the AP is now reporting Dawson is in the game again... Hmmm.. I gotta go check that out.
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:03:28
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Mike Duncan is now out of the race for the next RNC chair.
Really, it is a race between Blackwell and Steele.
How about that?
Yep, that'll just cause mass defections of African Americans to the GOP. :sarcasm:
Do you think for a minute that this isn't being stage managed to show how diverse the Republican really is???
the AP is now reporting Dawson is in the game again... Hmmm.. I gotta go check that out.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 20:04:03
livingonli on 01/30/2009 20:04:03
And now it's off to the salt mine I go.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:05:12
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:05:12
oooh... looks like Blackwell may have dropped out!
My oh my. Many deals are being made... many many deals. (they call it vote trading)
My oh my. Many deals are being made... many many deals. (they call it vote trading)
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:06:57
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:06:57
:rofl:
people are saying NOT to vote for Steele...why?
They don't Need another Moderate!
people are saying NOT to vote for Steele...why?
They don't Need another Moderate!
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 20:08:31
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 20:08:31
Hey.. the emoticons have disappeared! :O
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:10:16
It's Friday!! Do it for Lilly Ledbetter!
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Raine on 01/30/2009 20:10:16
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Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:10:25
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:10:25
Quote by Raine:
Why thank you Ms. Faye.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:11:17
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:11:17
Mmmm toasty warm right out of the dryer sweaters. Ahhh life is good. So is a job interview thing Wednesday!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:19:34
Yeah, ok. But I would hope you were understanding the point I was making.
I did, if we are going to be T's crossed and i's dotted about it...say *MAY* .
Context. I won't take that statement back.
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:19:34
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Why thank you Ms. Faye.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
I did, if we are going to be T's crossed and i's dotted about it...say *MAY* .
Context. I won't take that statement back.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:22:37
Are they back?
I do not know why they would go away, there is no infrastructure work going on, to the best of my knowledge.
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:22:37
Quote by Scoopster:
Hey.. the emoticons have disappeared! :O
Are they back?
I do not know why they would go away, there is no infrastructure work going on, to the best of my knowledge.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:25:37
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:25:37
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Comment by TriSec on 01/30/2009 20:28:28
TriSec on 01/30/2009 20:28:28
The emoticons still come up if you click the "display all in popup" thingy.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 20:29:41
I read that to mean she was the best candidate for SoS, not the best SoS ever... :shrug:
BobR on 01/30/2009 20:29:41
Quote by Mondobubba:
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
I read that to mean she was the best candidate for SoS, not the best SoS ever... :shrug:
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:34:21
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:34:21
Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:36:50
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:36:50
AND... Saul Anuzis will not throw his endorsement to ANYONE, after dropping out.
I think HE should be the RNC chair -- JUST for that. :spit:
I think HE should be the RNC chair -- JUST for that. :spit:
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:37:14
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:37:14
Wow. that caller was strange on Randi. Wow.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:39:15
Sixth and last ballot unless Steele picks up 5 and Dawson 15 leaving 84-84 tie.
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:39:15
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:39:23
No, I don't want you to. I totally dig what you are saying. She is going to be awesome. She isn't an ideology driven, retrofitted cold warrior. HRC gets the world as a multi-noded systems that is far more complex than the us vs them paradigm of the current GOP.
Caveat: When I, Mondo speak, it is almost always from a place of wise assery. Which is what I was after with my original statement. :mutters: Damn Interwebs, no way to approximate the merry twinkle in my eye.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:39:23
Quote by Raine:Yeah, ok. But I would hope you were understanding the point I was making.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Why thank you Ms. Faye.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
I did, if we are going to be T's crossed and i's dotted about it...say *MAY* .
Context. I won't take that statement back.
No, I don't want you to. I totally dig what you are saying. She is going to be awesome. She isn't an ideology driven, retrofitted cold warrior. HRC gets the world as a multi-noded systems that is far more complex than the us vs them paradigm of the current GOP.
Caveat: When I, Mondo speak, it is almost always from a place of wise assery. Which is what I was after with my original statement. :mutters: Damn Interwebs, no way to approximate the merry twinkle in my eye.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:41:09
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:41:09
They are not done voting Randi... not yet.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:42:20
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:42:20
RNC race - Duncan out, Anuzis out, Blackwell out. Down to Steele and Dawson. Moment of truth. (5 mintues ago)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:44:37
:rofl: I can see the events manager of the Capitol Hilton giving the RNC the boot. "I told you there was a deadline! The Abramowitz family booked this room almost a year ago. No, I don't care if you are about to make a decision that is going to mark a sea change in the Republican party for years to come. No, we have no other rooms available. I am sorry, but you will need to take this event off Hilton property."
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 20:44:37
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
:rofl: I can see the events manager of the Capitol Hilton giving the RNC the boot. "I told you there was a deadline! The Abramowitz family booked this room almost a year ago. No, I don't care if you are about to make a decision that is going to mark a sea change in the Republican party for years to come. No, we have no other rooms available. I am sorry, but you will need to take this event off Hilton property."
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:46:44
Mondo. I you... I do, but this did not come across that way.
No hard feelings... But when you say that I am making a *broad statement* you cannot expect me to not respond, can you? You have strong feelings as Do I.
Perhaps the
emoticon would help?
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:46:44
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Yeah, ok. But I would hope you were understanding the point I was making.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Why thank you Ms. Faye.
I am not trying to call out my beloved Random on this one, but what happened during the primaries was not Deans fault. this was the STATES... or the STATE parties.
And, I guess I am bringing up old wounds, a certain candidate used that to a certain political advantage.
I mean the following from the most honest place ever: That candidate showed herself to be probably the best SoS we may ever see.
That's a pretty broad statement when she's only been on the job ten days. I mean there are some pretty awesome shoes there. Marshall, Jefferson, Albright, Dulles...
I did, if we are going to be T's crossed and i's dotted about it...say *MAY* .
Context. I won't take that statement back.
No, I don't want you to. I totally dig what you are saying. She is going to be awesome. She isn't an ideology driven, retrofitted cold warrior. HRC gets the world as a multi-noded systems that is far more complex than the us vs them paradigm of the current GOP.
Caveat: When I, Mondo speak, it is almost always from a place of wise assery. Which is what I was after with my original statement. :mutters: Damn Interwebs, no way to approximate the merry twinkle in my eye.
you... I do, but this did not come across that way. No hard feelings... But when you say that I am making a *broad statement* you cannot expect me to not respond, can you? You have strong feelings as Do I.
Perhaps the
emoticon would help?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 20:50:11
That is about right! They served the folks there Fried Chicken for lunch and told them that the room had to be cleared by 5 PM so they could set up for a weeding.
And that came directly from NPR! (ok then the NPR dude said they could all have Burger King after the Hilton kicked them out)
Raine on 01/30/2009 20:50:11
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
:rofl: I can see the events manager of the Capitol Hilton giving the RNC the boot. "I told you there was a deadline! The Abramowitz family booked this room almost a year ago. No, I don't care if you are about to make a decision that is going to mark a sea change in the Republican party for years to come. No, we have no other rooms available. I am sorry, but you will need to take this event off Hilton property."
And that came directly from NPR! (ok then the NPR dude said they could all have Burger King after the Hilton kicked them out)
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 21:04:58
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 21:04:58
This RNC chair vote is about as exciting as waiting for the cardinals to choose a new pope.
Everyone watch for the white smoke coming out of Rush Limbaugh's ears! :rofl:
Everyone watch for the white smoke coming out of Rush Limbaugh's ears! :rofl:
Comment by Scoopster on 01/30/2009 21:06:54
Scoopster on 01/30/2009 21:06:54
And nope they're still not showin' Bobber.. I get the display all window just fine but the sidebar is gone. Tried the open/close button too, no dice.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:08:29
Now here come the hotel GM.
"Yeaaaahhhh is there a problem here? What they aren't finished? Well they can take this down to storage b. Mmmmkay?"
Sputtery muttering from all assembled members of the RNC.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:08:29
Quote by Raine:That is about right! They served the folks there Fried Chicken for lunch and told them that the room had to be cleared by 5 PM so they could set up for a weeding.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
:rofl: I can see the events manager of the Capitol Hilton giving the RNC the boot. "I told you there was a deadline! The Abramowitz family booked this room almost a year ago. No, I don't care if you are about to make a decision that is going to mark a sea change in the Republican party for years to come. No, we have no other rooms available. I am sorry, but you will need to take this event off Hilton property."
And that came directly from NPR! (ok then the NPR dude said they could all have Burger King after the Hilton kicked them out)
Now here come the hotel GM.
"Yeaaaahhhh is there a problem here? What they aren't finished? Well they can take this down to storage b. Mmmmkay?"
Sputtery muttering from all assembled members of the RNC.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 21:12:42
oooh - we have a bug!
I normally keep it minimized to keep the page refresh time down, and haven't looked at it in while. I will look over the code when I get home!
BobR on 01/30/2009 21:12:42
Quote by Scoopster:
And nope they're still not showin' Bobber.. I get the display all window just fine but the sidebar is gone. Tried the open/close button too, no dice.
oooh - we have a bug!
I normally keep it minimized to keep the page refresh time down, and haven't looked at it in while. I will look over the code when I get home!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:14:04
Hey I just noticed they aren't there either.
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:14:04
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
And nope they're still not showin' Bobber.. I get the display all window just fine but the sidebar is gone. Tried the open/close button too, no dice.
oooh - we have a bug!
I normally keep it minimized to keep the page refresh time down, and haven't looked at it in while. I will look over the code when I get home!
Hey I just noticed they aren't there either.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:15:08
Mondobubba on 01/30/2009 21:15:08
Oh while you are are at it with the code monkey business, Bobber. I've been having an issue with audiocons; when I post them they don't show up in my comment.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 21:52:34
You need to make sure you have a player associated with both MP3 and WAV files. We have a "Help" screen; here is the link to the pertinent part
BobR on 01/30/2009 21:52:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh while you are are at it with the code monkey business, Bobber. I've been having an issue with audiocons; when I post them they don't show up in my comment.
You need to make sure you have a player associated with both MP3 and WAV files. We have a "Help" screen; here is the link to the pertinent part
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 21:59:50
:rofl:
It is a lot like that! Sorry to have bored everyone this afternoon.
Raine on 01/30/2009 21:59:50
Quote by Scoopster:
This RNC chair vote is about as exciting as waiting for the cardinals to choose a new pope.
Everyone watch for the white smoke coming out of Rush Limbaugh's ears! :rofl:
:rofl:
It is a lot like that! Sorry to have bored everyone this afternoon.
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 22:02:06
:rofl: Well the deadline has come. Did they come up with a leader or did they have to move to the broom closet?
livingonli on 01/30/2009 22:02:06
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:That is about right! They served the folks there Fried Chicken for lunch and told them that the room had to be cleared by 5 PM so they could set up for a weeding.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
IT is important to remember that Katon Dawson belonged to an all white country club...
He is still in the running for the RNC Chair.
Saul Anuzis is now out...
SO--- we have Steele and Dawson.
And a Capitol Hilton room where the Vote is happening that has to be cleared out by 5 pm so they can set up for a wedding. No -- I am not kidding.
:rofl: I can see the events manager of the Capitol Hilton giving the RNC the boot. "I told you there was a deadline! The Abramowitz family booked this room almost a year ago. No, I don't care if you are about to make a decision that is going to mark a sea change in the Republican party for years to come. No, we have no other rooms available. I am sorry, but you will need to take this event off Hilton property."
And that came directly from NPR! (ok then the NPR dude said they could all have Burger King after the Hilton kicked them out)
Now here come the hotel GM.
"Yeaaaahhhh is there a problem here? What they aren't finished? Well they can take this down to storage b. Mmmmkay?"
Sputtery muttering from all assembled members of the RNC.
:rofl: Well the deadline has come. Did they come up with a leader or did they have to move to the broom closet?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:02:51
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:02:51
Looks like Steele is the new Chair... for history... he is not the first Black Chair...that was Ron Brown... of the DNC in 1989. There goes the RNC... breaking ground once again
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:03:58
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:03:58
They picked Michael Steele... Just in time , they did NOT want to go to storage room B!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:06:11
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:06:11
I swear picking the RNC Chair was a lot like the Movie... *best in Show*
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:10:13
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:10:13
A Kos Diary on the Election of Steele.
So how is Boehner and Rush going to react to the fact that a black man is now in charge?
So how is Boehner and Rush going to react to the fact that a black man is now in charge?
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 22:16:34
That sound you hear is the sound of thousands of racist southern Republicans' heads exploding...
BobR on 01/30/2009 22:16:34
Quote by Raine:
A Kos Diary on the Election of Steele.
So how is Boehner and Rush going to react to the fact that a black man is now in charge?
That sound you hear is the sound of thousands of racist southern Republicans' heads exploding...
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:17:30
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:17:30
How do you think the repubs in office are going to feel being led by a black person?
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 22:18:29
starling310 on 01/30/2009 22:18:29
Ok...this may sound bad...but, my first thought about Steele was "Well, the Republicans can now say 'look we picked a black guy too!'"
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:19:11
Saxby, honey... let me make you a Mint Julep... No? would you prefer a Rob Roy?
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:19:11
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
A Kos Diary on the Election of Steele.
So how is Boehner and Rush going to react to the fact that a black man is now in charge?
That sound you hear is the sound of thousands of racist southern Republicans' heads exploding...
Saxby, honey... let me make you a Mint Julep... No? would you prefer a Rob Roy?
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:22:01
It's not a bad thing to think.
Look at the history of the party. It came down to a guy who was a member of a country club that excluded Black people -- and Michael Steele.
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:22:01
Quote by starling310:
Ok...this may sound bad...but, my first thought about Steele was "Well, the Republicans can now say 'look we picked a black guy too!'"
It's not a bad thing to think.
Look at the history of the party. It came down to a guy who was a member of a country club that excluded Black people -- and Michael Steele.
Comment by starling310 on 01/30/2009 22:25:22
Attempt #1 to look like the party of the "Black Man" was crying racism about not seating Blago's Senate pick. So.....that didn't work.....
starling310 on 01/30/2009 22:25:22
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Ok...this may sound bad...but, my first thought about Steele was "Well, the Republicans can now say 'look we picked a black guy too!'"
It's not a bad thing to think.
Look at the history of the party. It came down to a guy who was a member of a country club that excluded Black people -- and Michael Steele.
Attempt #1 to look like the party of the "Black Man" was crying racism about not seating Blago's Senate pick. So.....that didn't work.....
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:28:56
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:28:56
It would be REALLY nice if America would be more comfortable crying racism when it comes to Social policy, rather than over political issues.
Comment by BobR on 01/30/2009 22:30:43
They already are - Obama! 
BobR on 01/30/2009 22:30:43
Quote by Raine:
How do you think the repubs in office are going to feel being led by a black person?
They already are - Obama!
Comment by livingonli on 01/30/2009 22:50:42
So that's why the Republican Congresscritters are having fits.
livingonli on 01/30/2009 22:50:42
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
How do you think the repubs in office are going to feel being led by a black person?
They already are - Obama!
So that's why the Republican Congresscritters are having fits.
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:58:16
Touche!
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:58:16
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
How do you think the repubs in office are going to feel being led by a black person?
They already are - Obama!
Touche!
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 22:59:07
Touche V.2
Raine on 01/30/2009 22:59:07
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
How do you think the repubs in office are going to feel being led by a black person?
They already are - Obama!
So that's why the Republican Congresscritters are having fits.
Touche V.2
Comment by Raine on 01/30/2009 23:34:59
Raine on 01/30/2009 23:34:59
The Grand Isle ferry has crashed into a South Hero dock at full speed and emergency services are rushing to the scene Details to come...
Comment by TriSec on 01/31/2009 02:28:45
TriSec on 01/31/2009 02:28:45
Friday Night is the loneliest night of the week...
Comment by BobR on 01/31/2009 04:13:35
After dinner we walked down to CVS to pickup a prescription, then laid on the couch and watched Keith and Rachel.
woo hoo.
party.
:yawn:
BobR on 01/31/2009 04:13:35
Quote by TriSec:
Friday Night is the loneliest night of the week...
After dinner we walked down to CVS to pickup a prescription, then laid on the couch and watched Keith and Rachel.
woo hoo.
party.
:yawn:
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2009 05:30:38
Mondobubba on 01/31/2009 05:30:38
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2009 05:59:22
Mondobubba on 01/31/2009 05:59:22