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60 days... tick tick tick.
Author: Raine
Date: 04/02/2009 12:26:27
Regarding the presidents request that GM get its act together in 60 days, I am left wondering, how can they do it? Why have they not been doing it and what was the hold-up? Did they not see the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car"? Did they not see Toyota and Honda's sales on hybrids going thru the roof? Did they not hear Americans' calls for more efficient vehicles? Did they not hear the warning about global climate change and overuse of fossil fuels?
How can they turn it all around in 60 days? Maybe this is how: It's a good move in the right direction, and exactly the kind of thing the Administration and most Americans are looking for.
It begs the question: Why so long? Long-time listeners of progressive radio - especially the Stephanie Miller Show - recall Momma doing ads for this elusive "Chevy Volt" We saw ads for it on TV; why isn't it in production yet? If we can put a man on the moon in less than a decade, why can't our American automakers get these cars on the road now? I tire of hearing the excuses about the cost, etc. The technology is there and so is the demand. There are plenty of incentives in the stimulus planned passed by Congress to start getting older, less efficient cars off the road and replace them with hybrids.
People will not buy American autos as they are now, for a few reasons. One is they simply cannot afford to. Between credit availability disappearing and the unstable job market they simply would rather wait until these new efficient vehicles are available - I know we are. I would much rather buy a car like the Volt than a regular gas engine, especially if it means taking on another 60 month loan. Why should we spend money on something we don't want? Why should ANYONE? Once again, I ask: Why aren't American Car makers listening to the demands of the market?
It seems the problem with GM and many other car companies is that they relied too much on the oil industry to tell them what to do and what to produce. Americans - being the free market sorts that they are - chose not to purchase what was being offered. Instead of listening to the public, GM kept throwing good money after bad. I am of the opinion that if American taxpayers are going to bail this company out, they need to produce products that we want. I don't know about you, but I want green efficient cars that help Americans break the habit of fossil fuel usage, AND
I want them made buy UNION WORKERS.
So I hope that we give them this loan, and I hope they've learned a lesson. The market will only correct itself if you listen to the market and not Exxonmobileshell Oil. Get moving GM; if we can get Neil Armstrong on the moon, you can get the Chevy Volt out on the streets a lot sooner than next year. I know you can. You have 2 months to prove you can.
:peace: and
Raine
How can they turn it all around in 60 days? Maybe this is how:
General Motors Corp (GM.N) has asked for $2.6 billion of low interest government loans to support the development of three new hybrid vehicles, according to a business plan update released on Wednesday.
GM's loan request, which would help develop two spin-offs from its all-electric Chevrolet Volt, raises to $10.3 billion the aid it is seeking under a U.S. Energy Department program designed to support development of fuel-efficient vehicles.
The request for low-interest taxpayer backed loans was made on Monday to the U.S. Treasury Department, GM said. It was the automaker's third request for loans under the program.
It was also the first time GM has confirmed that it intended to move ahead with production of variants of the Volt, a battery-powered car that will carry a small, 1.4-liter engine as a generator designed to kick in after 40 miles. (64 km)
It begs the question: Why so long? Long-time listeners of progressive radio - especially the Stephanie Miller Show - recall Momma doing ads for this elusive "Chevy Volt" We saw ads for it on TV; why isn't it in production yet? If we can put a man on the moon in less than a decade, why can't our American automakers get these cars on the road now? I tire of hearing the excuses about the cost, etc. The technology is there and so is the demand. There are plenty of incentives in the stimulus planned passed by Congress to start getting older, less efficient cars off the road and replace them with hybrids.
People will not buy American autos as they are now, for a few reasons. One is they simply cannot afford to. Between credit availability disappearing and the unstable job market they simply would rather wait until these new efficient vehicles are available - I know we are. I would much rather buy a car like the Volt than a regular gas engine, especially if it means taking on another 60 month loan. Why should we spend money on something we don't want? Why should ANYONE? Once again, I ask: Why aren't American Car makers listening to the demands of the market?
It seems the problem with GM and many other car companies is that they relied too much on the oil industry to tell them what to do and what to produce. Americans - being the free market sorts that they are - chose not to purchase what was being offered. Instead of listening to the public, GM kept throwing good money after bad. I am of the opinion that if American taxpayers are going to bail this company out, they need to produce products that we want. I don't know about you, but I want green efficient cars that help Americans break the habit of fossil fuel usage, AND
I want them made buy UNION WORKERS.
So I hope that we give them this loan, and I hope they've learned a lesson. The market will only correct itself if you listen to the market and not Exxonmobileshell Oil. Get moving GM; if we can get Neil Armstrong on the moon, you can get the Chevy Volt out on the streets a lot sooner than next year. I know you can. You have 2 months to prove you can.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 12:38:45
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 12:38:45
:lol:
Morning :hug:
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 12:47:07
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 12:47:07
Morning guys! Ugh what a ugly depressing day it is.. rainy, warmer but still not warm.. That's ok tho 'cuz things will turn real nice real soon.
And baseball season opens Sunday!
As with last season I'm not going to take a favorite this year. I'll just be a fan of the game, and that's plenty good.
Oh yeah I have a couple leftovers from yesterday's goofiness..
Late late late comment here, but CRUNK THE RAINBOW?! :lol:
and my fave netprank from yesterday.. Tom's Hardware's Biggest Shootout EVAR!" wherein they put a tray of AMD server CPUs to the hot lead test.
And baseball season opens Sunday!
As with last season I'm not going to take a favorite this year. I'll just be a fan of the game, and that's plenty good.Oh yeah I have a couple leftovers from yesterday's goofiness..
Quote by Raine:
Skittles infused Vodka: A tutorial.
Late late late comment here, but CRUNK THE RAINBOW?! :lol:
and my fave netprank from yesterday.. Tom's Hardware's Biggest Shootout EVAR!" wherein they put a tray of AMD server CPUs to the hot lead test.
Comment by 
Raine on 04/02/2009 12:52:04
Raine on 04/02/2009 12:52:04
Good morning! New Bloggie is up and purring!!!!
Comment by 
m-hadley on 04/02/2009 12:54:13
m-hadley on 04/02/2009 12:54:13
Good Morning Denver (City by the Bay?),
Hope everyone is having a great day, so far :D
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Hope everyone is having a great day, so far :D
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:06:03
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:06:03
Good morning Everyone!!!
Comment by 
TriSec on 04/02/2009 13:06:27
TriSec on 04/02/2009 13:06:27
Morning, comrades!
60 days, huh? It can be done, and there is precedent.
In 1927, a young aviator needed a plane to fly across the Atlantic to win a prize. He chose the small San Diego company "Ryan Aircraft" to build it for him. It was designed, built, and ready for first flight in 57 days. Today, it's hanging in the Air and Space Museum. Everyone knows the "Spirit of St. Louis", right?
And in 1940, a desperate British Empire turned to "North American Aviation" to design and build an aircraft capable of flying over the Continent and defeating the ME-109s that were pummeling England. NA also came through, and in 60 days the first prototypes were flying. Though exceptional, it wasn't until somebody dropped a Rolls-Royce "Merlin" engine in it that it became invincible, and perhaps the best all-around piston engine fighter plane ever built.
Of course, it's the P-51 'Mustang', and that's what I think of when I hear the term. (you can tell if someone is a plane or a car person, do the word-association thing with "Mustang" and check the response.)
Anyway, I digress.
60 days, huh? It can be done, and there is precedent.
In 1927, a young aviator needed a plane to fly across the Atlantic to win a prize. He chose the small San Diego company "Ryan Aircraft" to build it for him. It was designed, built, and ready for first flight in 57 days. Today, it's hanging in the Air and Space Museum. Everyone knows the "Spirit of St. Louis", right?
And in 1940, a desperate British Empire turned to "North American Aviation" to design and build an aircraft capable of flying over the Continent and defeating the ME-109s that were pummeling England. NA also came through, and in 60 days the first prototypes were flying. Though exceptional, it wasn't until somebody dropped a Rolls-Royce "Merlin" engine in it that it became invincible, and perhaps the best all-around piston engine fighter plane ever built.
Of course, it's the P-51 'Mustang', and that's what I think of when I hear the term. (you can tell if someone is a plane or a car person, do the word-association thing with "Mustang" and check the response.)
Anyway, I digress.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:23:03
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:23:03
So Ed Shultz got the big shoe on MSNBC... Kinda bummed for Shuster, I gotta admit.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:23:25
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:23:25
That said, maybe Randi will come back to radio!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 13:41:55
Steph would have been a better choice if you ask me. She's friendlier. I'm not an Ed fan
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 13:41:55
Quote by Raine:
So Ed Shultz got the big shoe on MSNBC... Kinda bummed for Shuster, I gotta admit.
Steph would have been a better choice if you ask me. She's friendlier. I'm not an Ed fan
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 13:43:15
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 13:43:15
She's the flippin' Queen she's pretty much got EVERTHING - asshat.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:45:04
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:45:04
Funny thing about this iPod... The QUEEN REQUESTED THE DAMN iPod!!
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:45:52
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:45:52
And in other news... this is the Shocker... the Queen put her arms AROUND Michelle Obama.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 13:46:42
HAH!
Raine on 04/02/2009 13:46:42
HAH!
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 14:02:26
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 14:02:26
Scandelous! 
Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2009 14:12:01
Still.
Not.
Fixed.
TriSec on 04/02/2009 14:12:01
Still.
Not.
Fixed.
Comment by 
BobR on 04/02/2009 14:30:21
BobR on 04/02/2009 14:30:21
:coffee2:
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 14:44:30
Raine on 04/02/2009 14:44:30
Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2009 14:50:40
TriSec on 04/02/2009 14:50:40
Oh, poop. No love from MetLife. Apparently, I'm not a good fit, according to their battery of tests.
I suppose it's better to know that up front though, instead of making the attempt and failing.
I suppose it's better to know that up front though, instead of making the attempt and failing.
Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2009 15:10:08
TriSec on 04/02/2009 15:10:08
COBRA is finally fixed. That only took an hour.
Here's a tip: When you need something done *NOW*...don't yell. It scares the bejeezus out of the customer service people. (This is broken! This guy is pissed! Why isn't he yelling at me???)
Here's a tip: When you need something done *NOW*...don't yell. It scares the bejeezus out of the customer service people. (This is broken! This guy is pissed! Why isn't he yelling at me???)
Comment by BobR on 04/02/2009 15:11:26
What was wrong? Are you not skeezy enough?
BobR on 04/02/2009 15:11:26
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, poop. No love from MetLife. Apparently, I'm not a good fit, according to their battery of tests.
I suppose it's better to know that up front though, instead of making the attempt and failing.
What was wrong? Are you not skeezy enough?
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 15:11:39
Raine on 04/02/2009 15:11:39
Bummer Tri... I know there is going to be a great break for you soon, I just know it.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 15:20:32
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 15:20:32
Tri :hug:
Comment by 
Random on 04/02/2009 15:26:36
Random on 04/02/2009 15:26:36
Hi then everyone.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 04/02/2009 15:26:45
Will in Chicago on 04/02/2009 15:26:45
Good morning, bloggers!! Excellent post, Raine!
TriSec, I hope that something does turn up for you.
I am in a rough patch myself. I found out most of the schools in Arizona are having state mandated testing this week, so no subbing. However, I did find another job fair to go to on Saturday -- so two job fairs might bring in some leads.
The key thing is not to fall into despair, because despair can paralyze the mind and the heart. So, hang in there!
TriSec, I hope that something does turn up for you.
I am in a rough patch myself. I found out most of the schools in Arizona are having state mandated testing this week, so no subbing. However, I did find another job fair to go to on Saturday -- so two job fairs might bring in some leads.
The key thing is not to fall into despair, because despair can paralyze the mind and the heart. So, hang in there!
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 15:41:22
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 15:41:22
Hey Random and Will :D
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 15:43:24
Random on 04/02/2009 15:43:24
it seems Marilu Henner has now made Random very depressed.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/02/2009 15:43:31
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 15:43:31
Whoa.. this has to suck hard.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 15:51:53
Because of the food stuff?
Raine on 04/02/2009 15:51:53
Quote by Random:
it seems Marilu Henner has now made Random very depressed.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/02/2009 16:01:59
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 16:01:59
CT General Assembly moving forward with marijuana decriminalization bill :clap:
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Comment by Scoopster on 04/02/2009 16:06:21
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 16:06:21
BTW a little background.. my brother has been convicted of possession of minor amounts of weed at LEAST four times. Through nolo contendere pleas and the extraordinary efforts of our family lawyer, he hasn't seen any serious jail time. But it's also driven him deep into debt from fines and legal fees.
If anything would drive me to want this bill passed and stuffed in Gov. Rell's... errr.. craw, it's this experience.
If anything would drive me to want this bill passed and stuffed in Gov. Rell's... errr.. craw, it's this experience.
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 16:10:46
Well, more so when she started talking about her kids.
the food stuff...whenever people start talking about what someone should or should not eat, it always sounds pretentious to me. Like trying to control people.
I've listened to my Uncle spew all sorts of crap about stuff like that. Of course, I listen to Bill Maher talk about it, and he sounds like a hypocrite one he does.
Random on 04/02/2009 16:10:46
Quote by Raine:Because of the food stuff?Quote by Random:
it seems Marilu Henner has now made Random very depressed.
Well, more so when she started talking about her kids.
the food stuff...whenever people start talking about what someone should or should not eat, it always sounds pretentious to me. Like trying to control people.
I've listened to my Uncle spew all sorts of crap about stuff like that. Of course, I listen to Bill Maher talk about it, and he sounds like a hypocrite one he does.
Comment by 
livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:15:03
livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:15:03
Gppd day everyone. Another day where I struggle to get out of bed. I didn't get home until 1:30 last night and I didn't get to bed until 4 AM.
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:18:24
Especially since it won't be 10 PM she would still be able to get up at insane o'clock. At least when I am off I can still watch Family Guy at that hour when I'm home.
livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:18:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
So Ed Shultz got the big shoe on MSNBC... Kinda bummed for Shuster, I gotta admit.
Steph would have been a better choice if you ask me. She's friendlier. I'm not an Ed fan
Especially since it won't be 10 PM she would still be able to get up at insane o'clock. At least when I am off I can still watch Family Guy at that hour when I'm home.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 16:22:38
Nice!!!
BTW... Did you hear about this? New York is Repealling is Rockefeller Drug Laws!
Raine on 04/02/2009 16:22:38
Quote by Scoopster:
CT General Assembly moving forward with marijuana decriminalization bill :clap:
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Nice!!!
BTW... Did you hear about this? New York is Repealling is Rockefeller Drug Laws!
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:26:18
She needs a primary challenge in the next election. She has been terrible and too right-wing for my taste.
livingonli on 04/02/2009 16:26:18
Quote by Raine:
Looks like EFCA is dead. F*cking Feinstein.
She needs a primary challenge in the next election. She has been terrible and too right-wing for my taste.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 16:32:08
Raine on 04/02/2009 16:32:08
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 16:44:35
Random on 04/02/2009 16:44:35
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 16:59:40
Raine on 04/02/2009 16:59:40
I love me some Noah Wiley...
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 17:04:48
Here is my question on this, are law makers embracing this idea because it is good policy or because it is cheaper than locking people up for extended periods for minor posession?
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 17:04:48
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
CT General Assembly moving forward with marijuana decriminalization bill :clap:
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Nice!!!
BTW... Did you hear about this? New York is Repealling is Rockefeller Drug Laws!
Here is my question on this, are law makers embracing this idea because it is good policy or because it is cheaper than locking people up for extended periods for minor posession?
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 17:07:14
It's cheaper.
Random on 04/02/2009 17:07:14
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
CT General Assembly moving forward with marijuana decriminalization bill :clap:
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Nice!!!
BTW... Did you hear about this? New York is Repealling is Rockefeller Drug Laws!
Here is my question on this, are law makers embracing this idea because it is good policy or because it is cheaper than locking people up for extended periods for minor posession?
It's cheaper.
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 17:09:43
Considering the way the budget in NY is going. It is definitely being pushed now because of cost cutting more than anything. The same reason New Mexico abolished the death penalty.
livingonli on 04/02/2009 17:09:43
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
CT General Assembly moving forward with marijuana decriminalization bill :clap:
Wooot and one of the leaders of the effort is my old state rep Martin Looney!
Nice!!!
BTW... Did you hear about this? New York is Repealling is Rockefeller Drug Laws!
Here is my question on this, are law makers embracing this idea because it is good policy or because it is cheaper than locking people up for extended periods for minor posession?
Considering the way the budget in NY is going. It is definitely being pushed now because of cost cutting more than anything. The same reason New Mexico abolished the death penalty.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 17:11:41
*****BREAKING NEWS*******
Former AIG CFO, Monrad, has been sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for role in fraudulent scheme to manipulate AIG’s financial statements.
Raine on 04/02/2009 17:11:41
Former AIG CFO, Monrad, has been sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for role in fraudulent scheme to manipulate AIG’s financial statements.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 17:12:53
Link
Raine on 04/02/2009 17:12:53
Quote by Raine:*****BREAKING NEWS*******
Former AIG CFO, Monrad, has been sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for role in fraudulent scheme to manipulate AIG’s financial statements.
Link
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 17:21:24
and I still don't understand it.
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 17:21:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yikes! "The Matrix" was released ten years ago.
and I still don't understand it.
Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2009 18:01:12
TriSec on 04/02/2009 18:01:12
Even though it's going to suck this weekend, there's some touches of spring around here...
The forsythia and two trees out back are starting to bud out.
I saw a bee today; she looked fat and healthy. (maybe CCD is finally receding?)
The grass is starting to "green up" a little bit.
And I took the snow rake and shovel out of my car today. Which will guarantee a snowstorm this weekend. (However, like every New Englander worth his salt, my ice scraper stays in the car year 'round.)
The forsythia and two trees out back are starting to bud out.
I saw a bee today; she looked fat and healthy. (maybe CCD is finally receding?)
The grass is starting to "green up" a little bit.
And I took the snow rake and shovel out of my car today. Which will guarantee a snowstorm this weekend. (However, like every New Englander worth his salt, my ice scraper stays in the car year 'round.)
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 04/02/2009 18:09:58
Considering the amount of damage people like this do to the economy, why aren't they executed? If there's going to be a death penalty, offenses like these should qualify.
trojanrabbit on 04/02/2009 18:09:58
Quote by Raine:*****BREAKING NEWS*******
Former AIG CFO, Monrad, has been sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for role in fraudulent scheme to manipulate AIG’s financial statements.
Considering the amount of damage people like this do to the economy, why aren't they executed? If there's going to be a death penalty, offenses like these should qualify.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2009 18:23:40
see there is hope :)
wickedpam on 04/02/2009 18:23:40
Quote by TriSec:
Even though it's going to suck this weekend, there's some touches of spring around here...
The forsythia and two trees out back are starting to bud out.
I saw a bee today; she looked fat and healthy. (maybe CCD is finally receding?)
The grass is starting to "green up" a little bit.
And I took the snow rake and shovel out of my car today. Which will guarantee a snowstorm this weekend. (However, like every New Englander worth his salt, my ice scraper stays in the car year 'round.)
see there is hope :)
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:15:06
livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:15:06
So, who's watching Break Room Live?
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:25:27
livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:25:27
Comment by Scoopster on 04/02/2009 19:46:21
Scoopster on 04/02/2009 19:46:21
Some moron in PA wrote this op/ed..
My response? Let's just go straight to the subject - a comprehensive, non-compulsory national service bill. This is an idea that's been tossed around for decades in this country, and some pieces of it have been implemented already in the form of the Peace Corps, Americorps/City Year, etc.. Private institutions and some companies also have such voluntary community service programs, from serving food at food banks to coaching intramural sports. And of course, military service is the most traditional and honored form of volunteerism not just in this country but in any country.
The point is that volunteerism has already been an American value for a very, very long time. The idea, presented in the op/ed cited, that it is un-American to promote volunteerism is not only factually incorrect, it's also plainly stupid and reveals the opiner to be a fucking clueless twit.
By the way, be thankful it's not mandatory military service like the Israelis have had instituted for years, or like was instituted during the Vietnam War.
My response? Let's just go straight to the subject - a comprehensive, non-compulsory national service bill. This is an idea that's been tossed around for decades in this country, and some pieces of it have been implemented already in the form of the Peace Corps, Americorps/City Year, etc.. Private institutions and some companies also have such voluntary community service programs, from serving food at food banks to coaching intramural sports. And of course, military service is the most traditional and honored form of volunteerism not just in this country but in any country.
The point is that volunteerism has already been an American value for a very, very long time. The idea, presented in the op/ed cited, that it is un-American to promote volunteerism is not only factually incorrect, it's also plainly stupid and reveals the opiner to be a fucking clueless twit.
By the way, be thankful it's not mandatory military service like the Israelis have had instituted for years, or like was instituted during the Vietnam War.
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:55:02
livingonli on 04/02/2009 19:55:02
Marc Maron just said that Rush Limpballs is smarter than Ed Schultz.
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 19:55:34
Random on 04/02/2009 19:55:34
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 19:57:45
...Yeah I could see that.
Random on 04/02/2009 19:57:45
Quote by livingonli:
Marc Maron just said that Rush Limpballs is smarter than Ed Schultz.
...Yeah I could see that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 20:11:39
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 20:11:39
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 20:16:42
so many jokes...so little space...so I'll just one. Can you have an english only test where most of the state failed it in middle school?
Random on 04/02/2009 20:16:42
so many jokes...so little space...so I'll just one. Can you have an english only test where most of the state failed it in middle school?
Comment by BobR on 04/02/2009 20:31:52
You think that's bad? Some knuckle-dragger tried to introduce a bill that would define ownership of automobiles after the rapture occurred (the "post-tribulation property settlement act")
BobR on 04/02/2009 20:31:52
You think that's bad? Some knuckle-dragger tried to introduce a bill that would define ownership of automobiles after the rapture occurred (the "post-tribulation property settlement act")
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 20:39:24
Parts of the bill: ...the Ascended, having no further claims upon [said automobile], may be deemed to have effectively transferred title to the nearest remaining family member or other designee Left Behind..."
:spit:
Raine on 04/02/2009 20:39:24
Quote by BobR:
You think that's bad? Some knuckle-dragger tried to introduce a bill that would define ownership of automobiles after the rapture occurred (the "post-tribulation property settlement act")
:spit:
Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2009 20:41:50
TriSec on 04/02/2009 20:41:50
Well, I have just been informed that I should sleep on the couch tonight.
No doghouse here, but avoiding terminal fluenza, apparently.
Fat lot of good those flu shots did last fall, hmm? (Guess who didn't get one. Guess who feels fine.)
No doghouse here, but avoiding terminal fluenza, apparently.
Fat lot of good those flu shots did last fall, hmm? (Guess who didn't get one. Guess who feels fine.)
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 20:48:44
well...that...is sad.
Random on 04/02/2009 20:48:44
Quote by Raine:Parts of the bill: ...the Ascended, having no further claims upon [said automobile], may be deemed to have effectively transferred title to the nearest remaining family member or other designee Left Behind..."Quote by BobR:
You think that's bad? Some knuckle-dragger tried to introduce a bill that would define ownership of automobiles after the rapture occurred (the "post-tribulation property settlement act")
:spit:
well...that...is sad.
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 20:49:03
Random on 04/02/2009 20:49:03
From my favorite production company.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 20:55:00
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
The thing about Florida is everything is done in committee, if it dies there nobody pays much attention to it. When a bill is reported out of committee then the fun begins. A lot of the legislative shenanigans aren't reported on by our media. They are too busy with THIRTY-SEVEN COMMON HOUSE HOLD CLEANERS THAT CAN KILL YOU! or stories about plucky grandmas that over come attackers at Wal-mart. Then of course there is the always popular missing white tot. This is both the local paper and the TV news. I swear I know more about what is going on nationally than I do locally.
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 20:55:00
Quote by Raine:Parts of the bill: ...the Ascended, having no further claims upon [said automobile], may be deemed to have effectively transferred title to the nearest remaining family member or other designee Left Behind..."Quote by BobR:
You think that's bad? Some knuckle-dragger tried to introduce a bill that would define ownership of automobiles after the rapture occurred (the "post-tribulation property settlement act")
:spit:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
The thing about Florida is everything is done in committee, if it dies there nobody pays much attention to it. When a bill is reported out of committee then the fun begins. A lot of the legislative shenanigans aren't reported on by our media. They are too busy with THIRTY-SEVEN COMMON HOUSE HOLD CLEANERS THAT CAN KILL YOU! or stories about plucky grandmas that over come attackers at Wal-mart. Then of course there is the always popular missing white tot. This is both the local paper and the TV news. I swear I know more about what is going on nationally than I do locally.
Comment by Random on 04/02/2009 20:58:24
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Random on 04/02/2009 20:58:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 21:12:08
Same difference. :snatches Random's "smote" button, uses on Random:
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 21:12:08
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Same difference. :snatches Random's "smote" button, uses on Random:
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2009 21:28:43
livingonli on 04/02/2009 21:28:43
Watch out when Mondo grabs the smote button.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 21:44:20
Raine on 04/02/2009 21:44:20
Oh wait Mondo -- you are gonna LOVE this one that didn't make it:
...and upon successful [implementation] on the uterine wall, each blastocyst shall be allotted two (2) troy ounces of 18-karat gold bullion, to be held in trust by the mother or court appent...
From the Embryos and Ingots Act of 2009
:spit:
...and upon successful [implementation] on the uterine wall, each blastocyst shall be allotted two (2) troy ounces of 18-karat gold bullion, to be held in trust by the mother or court appent...
From the Embryos and Ingots Act of 2009
:spit:
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 21:53:53
bAnn too??? Yesterday Neil Boortz fell for it!!!
Raine on 04/02/2009 21:53:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Ann Coulter falls for fake NASCAR story. :rofl:
bAnn too??? Yesterday Neil Boortz fell for it!!!
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 21:55:20
Oh that bites, big time Tri.
Raine on 04/02/2009 21:55:20
Quote by TriSec:
Well, I have just been informed that I should sleep on the couch tonight.
No doghouse here, but avoiding terminal fluenza, apparently.
Fat lot of good those flu shots did last fall, hmm? (Guess who didn't get one. Guess who feels fine.)
Oh that bites, big time Tri.
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2009 22:01:24
Raine on 04/02/2009 22:01:24
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 23:43:43
:Coke comes from nose: What the fuck??? What is the point of giving embryos the 2 (troy) ounces of gold??
Mondobubba on 04/02/2009 23:43:43
Quote by Raine:
Oh wait Mondo -- you are gonna LOVE this one that didn't make it:
...and upon successful [implementation] on the uterine wall, each blastocyst shall be allotted two (2) troy ounces of 18-karat gold bullion, to be held in trust by the mother or court appent...
From the Embryos and Ingots Act of 2009
:spit:
:Coke comes from nose: What the fuck??? What is the point of giving embryos the 2 (troy) ounces of gold??
Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2009 00:20:17
livingonli on 04/03/2009 00:20:17
So, is Shuster still going to be the fill-in after this week, or will we be subjected with Big Eddie when Keth is out?
Comment by Raine on 04/03/2009 00:29:03
David will continue to be KO's Fill in. They have been saying that over and over.
David is going to have his time moved from 3-5 with Tamron Hall.
Raine on 04/03/2009 00:29:03
Quote by livingonli:
So, is Shuster still going to be the fill-in after this week, or will we be subjected with Big Eddie when Keth is out?
David will continue to be KO's Fill in. They have been saying that over and over.
David is going to have his time moved from 3-5 with Tamron Hall.
Comment by Random on 04/03/2009 00:31:24
:Uses secondary smote button on Mondo:
Don't mess with the Random.
And Same difference makes Random even angrier than stealing his smote button.
Random on 04/03/2009 00:31:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Same difference. :snatches Random's "smote" button, uses on Random:
:Uses secondary smote button on Mondo:
Don't mess with the Random.
And Same difference makes Random even angrier than stealing his smote button.
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 00:59:18
You can't smite me, I smote you first! Ha! Ohh I have angered Random! Scary! :poke:
Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 00:59:18
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Same difference. :snatches Random's "smote" button, uses on Random:
:Uses secondary smote button on Mondo:
Don't mess with the Random.
And Same difference makes Random even angrier than stealing his smote button.
You can't smite me, I smote you first! Ha! Ohh I have angered Random! Scary! :poke:
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 01:01:46
Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 01:01:46
:sniffle: FLOTUS in London.
Comment by Random on 04/03/2009 01:23:17
:Presses UBER Smote button: HA!
Random on 04/03/2009 01:23:17
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I really wish you were kidding, but I know your not. We just have the garden variety Republican nut jobbery, like women need to get a sonogram done before they can get an abortion.
Sonogram...i suppose ultrasound was meant...isn't sonogram just the picture an ultrasound produces?
Same difference. :snatches Random's "smote" button, uses on Random:
:Uses secondary smote button on Mondo:
Don't mess with the Random.
And Same difference makes Random even angrier than stealing his smote button.
You can't smite me, I smote you first! Ha! Ohh I have angered Random! Scary! :poke:
:Presses UBER Smote button: HA!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 01:24:08
trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 01:24:08
"One of the worst things for the United States to have is a smart, charismatic President" - Penn Jillette
to which Stephanie replied "We could get George Bush back"
to which Stephanie replied "We could get George Bush back"
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 01:39:40
As much as I love Penn & Teller for many reasons, Penn really needs to keep his libertarian pie hole shut.
Mondobubba on 04/03/2009 01:39:40
Quote by trojanrabbit:
"One of the worst things for the United States to have is a smart, charismatic President" - Penn Jillette
to which Stephanie replied "We could get George Bush back"
As much as I love Penn & Teller for many reasons, Penn really needs to keep his libertarian pie hole shut.
Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:40:05
livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:40:05
With all this talk about "the hug" I wonder if it's time to play "Don't Believe the Hype".
Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:41:24
Somehow I picture him and Alan Greenspan locked in a dungeon worshipping at the altar of Ayn Rand.
livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:41:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by trojanrabbit:
"One of the worst things for the United States to have is a smart, charismatic President" - Penn Jillette
to which Stephanie replied "We could get George Bush back"
As much as I love Penn & Teller for many reasons, Penn really needs to keep his libertarian pie hole shut.
Somehow I picture him and Alan Greenspan locked in a dungeon worshipping at the altar of Ayn Rand.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 01:50:04
trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 01:50:04
I thought that was one of Stephanie's best appearances tonight. The right wing blowholes weren't Michelle Bachman crazy so things weren't that contentious and Steph got a couple of good zings in.
Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:52:31
livingonli on 04/03/2009 01:52:31
Just imagine if Steph had to be on the Glenn Beck show. 
Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2009 02:11:38
livingonli on 04/03/2009 02:11:38
Can you believe that South Park is actually now in HD? At least for the few of you who can get Comedy Central's HD channel.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 02:55:18
A South Park episode was offered as a free download on the Xbox360 a while back. It was the episode when the kids thought they were ninjas and Butters got a throwing disk in the eye. It looked like it was HD as it was widescreen and there appeared to be more visible than on an SD recording.
trojanrabbit on 04/03/2009 02:55:18
Quote by livingonli:
Can you believe that South Park is actually now in HD? At least for the few of you who can get Comedy Central's HD channel.
A South Park episode was offered as a free download on the Xbox360 a while back. It was the episode when the kids thought they were ninjas and Butters got a throwing disk in the eye. It looked like it was HD as it was widescreen and there appeared to be more visible than on an SD recording.