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Distractions
Author: Raine
Date: 05/21/2009 12:48:09
President Obama is expected to give a speech today, renewing his pledge to close Gitmo. Interestingly (and not coincidentally) the former VP - Dick Cheney - will be giving a speech today arguing that torture works. According to sources, Dick will tell people that not only does torture work, but that Americans deserve to see all the proof that it works. See? Dick wants all the documents released too!
According to reports Dick may delay his speech at the American Enterprise Institute until after the President speaks at the National Archives. Sadly, the media will cover Dick like a condom. I have seen it happen all too often. The media will try to change the conversation, change the focus. It all is part of the grand distraction. Instead of everyone talking about that big bad Nancy Pelosi and how she is the greatest national security threat ever, we will be talking about the man who made our country less safe through torture. Snap, the talking point changed again. It would be deliciously ironic if is wasn't as serious as a heart attack.
That said, expect our President to talk about the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and the things that America has stood for (and will again). He will tell you and me that America lost it's way during the Bush/Cheney years. He will outline what he wants to happen. We must close Gitmo. That needs to be a focus regarding our national security. He signed an executive order 2 days into office. He wants it closed. We want it closed. I don't need to have any of these silly gimmicks the GOP plays to take that focus away. I don't need the media trying to make everyone forget that Gitmo is a giant torture chamber that NEEDS to be closed.
That is important to remember today. Obama is President now, Cheney is a war criminal. Obama will be talking to you and me, Dick Cheney will be talking to those that enabled war crimes. Our President will talk about the detainees. If it's possible, he wants to try them in Americans Courts; if that doesn't work, he will try them by military tribunals and - if nothing else is possible - he will seek to find other nations to take these people. Not ideal, but seriously, what are we to do with this mess that was left in the wake of the previous administration?
What we are seeing is the exactly what we had feared. We are seeing how bad things really were, and still are. At every turn, when this administration tries to make some headway, to shine a light on the problems and determine how to fix it, the reminders of the 8 year disaster show how deeply damaged our country is.
I tire of all of this, I really do. We shouldn't have to fight this hard to close Gitmo, we shouldn't have to deal with spineless Dems who have fallen for GOP talking points regarding bringing detainees to American federal prisons (military or otherwise), we shouldn't have to deal with sensationalistic media, and we certainly should not have to deal with Dick Cheney anymore.
All of these things are distractions, that -- had they been dealt with properly, would not have neccesitated the need for the President of the United States to speak today.
:peace: and
Raine
According to reports Dick may delay his speech at the American Enterprise Institute until after the President speaks at the National Archives. Sadly, the media will cover Dick like a condom. I have seen it happen all too often. The media will try to change the conversation, change the focus. It all is part of the grand distraction. Instead of everyone talking about that big bad Nancy Pelosi and how she is the greatest national security threat ever, we will be talking about the man who made our country less safe through torture. Snap, the talking point changed again. It would be deliciously ironic if is wasn't as serious as a heart attack.
That said, expect our President to talk about the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and the things that America has stood for (and will again). He will tell you and me that America lost it's way during the Bush/Cheney years. He will outline what he wants to happen. We must close Gitmo. That needs to be a focus regarding our national security. He signed an executive order 2 days into office. He wants it closed. We want it closed. I don't need to have any of these silly gimmicks the GOP plays to take that focus away. I don't need the media trying to make everyone forget that Gitmo is a giant torture chamber that NEEDS to be closed.
That is important to remember today. Obama is President now, Cheney is a war criminal. Obama will be talking to you and me, Dick Cheney will be talking to those that enabled war crimes. Our President will talk about the detainees. If it's possible, he wants to try them in Americans Courts; if that doesn't work, he will try them by military tribunals and - if nothing else is possible - he will seek to find other nations to take these people. Not ideal, but seriously, what are we to do with this mess that was left in the wake of the previous administration?
What we are seeing is the exactly what we had feared. We are seeing how bad things really were, and still are. At every turn, when this administration tries to make some headway, to shine a light on the problems and determine how to fix it, the reminders of the 8 year disaster show how deeply damaged our country is.
I tire of all of this, I really do. We shouldn't have to fight this hard to close Gitmo, we shouldn't have to deal with spineless Dems who have fallen for GOP talking points regarding bringing detainees to American federal prisons (military or otherwise), we shouldn't have to deal with sensationalistic media, and we certainly should not have to deal with Dick Cheney anymore.
All of these things are distractions, that -- had they been dealt with properly, would not have neccesitated the need for the President of the United States to speak today.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 13:07:07
velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 13:07:07
Morning all. Oh.... its so nice to have a speedy blog. 
Though, that being said, I will continue my search today for some RAM for my Mac G5 (non-Intell chip). My film editing has made me need to go to 8G.
Anywho, Cheney sucks. I wonder if some news (FOX) will even broadcast it? Meantime, our current Admin stopped a terrorist attack of the homegrown variety and they are sending a Gitmo detainee off to NYC for actual "Justice". Yay!
Though, that being said, I will continue my search today for some RAM for my Mac G5 (non-Intell chip). My film editing has made me need to go to 8G.Anywho, Cheney sucks. I wonder if some news (FOX) will even broadcast it? Meantime, our current Admin stopped a terrorist attack of the homegrown variety and they are sending a Gitmo detainee off to NYC for actual "Justice". Yay!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:08:12
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:08:12
Morning :hug:
I whole heartedly agree, if we'd had an ethical man as President for the last 8 years we would not be in this state now.
And like I mentioned yesterday, its going to talk a lot more then 100 days to fix this mess.
I whole heartedly agree, if we'd had an ethical man as President for the last 8 years we would not be in this state now.
And like I mentioned yesterday, its going to talk a lot more then 100 days to fix this mess.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 05/21/2009 13:11:02
trojanrabbit on 05/21/2009 13:11:02
Morning all
Allergy has me stuck at home again today. Another nosebleed when I woke up, worse than the first Sunday night, so I'm off to the doc this morning to see what's going on. Just have the fear that #3 will be worse and happen on the holiday.
Why does Dick the dick deserve any airtime, unless it's him answering to a judge/jury?
Allergy has me stuck at home again today. Another nosebleed when I woke up, worse than the first Sunday night, so I'm off to the doc this morning to see what's going on. Just have the fear that #3 will be worse and happen on the holiday.
Why does Dick the dick deserve any airtime, unless it's him answering to a judge/jury?
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 13:15:25
TJ, have you ever tried the Neti Pot for cleaning out the.., um... stuff? I HIGHLY recommend it, they work really well when used regularly (don't use table salt though, sea salt is better) and will change your allergy life!
velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 13:15:25
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Morning all
Allergy has me stuck at home again today. Another nosebleed when I woke up, worse than the first Sunday night, so I'm off to the doc this morning to see what's going on. Just have the fear that #3 will be worse and happen on the holiday.
Why does Dick the dick deserve any airtime, unless it's him answering to a judge/jury?
TJ, have you ever tried the Neti Pot for cleaning out the.., um... stuff? I HIGHLY recommend it, they work really well when used regularly (don't use table salt though, sea salt is better) and will change your allergy life!
Comment by 
BobR on 05/21/2009 13:15:41
BobR on 05/21/2009 13:15:41
Apropos of today's blog: Domestic Terrorists arrested, after buying and planting fake bombs from an FBI agent.
Who's keeping America safe?
Who's keeping America safe?
Comment by 
TriSec on 05/21/2009 13:16:19
TriSec on 05/21/2009 13:16:19
Morning, folks!
I have the "miracle radio" here with me today...going to see what I can pick up from here. Alas, WWZN doesn't broadcast the full 3 hours of Momma, and I have a meeting at 10 today anyway...
I have the "miracle radio" here with me today...going to see what I can pick up from here. Alas, WWZN doesn't broadcast the full 3 hours of Momma, and I have a meeting at 10 today anyway...
Comment by 
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:16:43
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:16:43
Newt Gingrich on his conversion: ‘Part of me is inherently medieval. I resonate to Gothic churches’
The best part is one of the reader comments: 
The best part is one of the reader comments:
Rarely in history has a human been so vain that he cannot clearly see, and be shamed by, such gargantuan hypocrisy. He loved his wife, then left her for something new. He loved his church, but left it for something new. He promised smaller government in the Contract With America, yet the government GREW while he remained in office. The opening promise of the Contract was that laws that pertained to the public would also pertain to members of Congress. But while voting themselves raises, and growing the size of government, Gingrich and the hypocritcal right somehow forgot to increase the minimum wage. Gingrich is a joke to anyone who can actually READ and COMPREHEND.
Comment by 
Random on 05/21/2009 13:19:52
Random on 05/21/2009 13:19:52
Hello there...How are you?
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:23:02
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:23:02
I really like Keith Ellison!
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:23:40
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:23:40
Good Morning Random (And EVERYONE else!)
:hug:
:hug:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:24:40
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:24:40
Morning Everybody :P
Just stopping by to say Happee Thursdee - I 'm heading into a four-day weekend - woo hoo - no special plans (too broke to go anywhere), but do have plans to go to the Bark Park , cut the grass, and maybe plant a few more things in my little contaner garden, maybe even cook out a time or two, and SLEEP
I wish the "Big Dick" Cheney would STFU
and crawl back into his undisclosed bunker, ooops I guess the Bidens don't want a Dick in their basement 
BTB, nice bloggie, Raine :clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
Just stopping by to say Happee Thursdee - I 'm heading into a four-day weekend - woo hoo - no special plans (too broke to go anywhere), but do have plans to go to the Bark Park , cut the grass, and maybe plant a few more things in my little contaner garden, maybe even cook out a time or two, and SLEEP
I wish the "Big Dick" Cheney would STFU
and crawl back into his undisclosed bunker, ooops I guess the Bidens don't want a Dick in their basement BTB, nice bloggie, Raine :clap:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:30:05
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:30:05
Mommy? I am scared of Jim's Gonezo....
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:30:23
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
& 
P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
I mean it come on over y'all :D
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:30:23
Quote by Raine:
I really like Keith Ellison!
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
& P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
I mean it come on over y'all :D
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:33:17
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:33:17
I decided something yesterday when a certain party requested another party change it's name.
I've decided that I'll be all for changing to the Democrat Socialist Party IF they change to the Fascist Republic Party and they go first.
I've decided that I'll be all for changing to the Democrat Socialist Party IF they change to the Fascist Republic Party and they go first.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:34:34
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:34:34
Leesburg? VA?
Comment by 
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:36:23
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:36:23
Mornin' all! 
Hmm.. I wonder how much a flight from Logan to Tulsa would cost? :lol:
BTW I've been to Tulsa before.. that airport is tiiiiiny!
Hmm.. I wonder how much a flight from Logan to Tulsa would cost? :lol:BTW I've been to Tulsa before.. that airport is tiiiiiny!
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:36:33
I like that!
They would be the FRP'rs.... now that works!
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:36:33
Quote by wickedpam:
I decided something yesterday when a certain party requested another party change it's name.
I've decided that I'll be all for changing to the Democrat Socialist Party IF they change to the Fascist Republic Party and they go first.
I like that!
They would be the FRP'rs.... now that works!
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:36:58
Temptress!
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:36:58
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
I really like Keith Ellison!
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
Temptress!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:41:44
Road trip!
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:41:44
Quote by Raine:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
I really like Keith Ellison!
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
Temptress!
Road trip!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:44:52
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:44:52
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
Comment by Random on 05/21/2009 13:49:24
Random can't go to no Tulsa...evil people.
Random on 05/21/2009 13:49:24
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
I really like Keith Ellison!
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
Temptress!
Road trip!
Random can't go to no Tulsa...evil people.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:50:05
I am really starting to get pissed too. I can make no sense of this.
Why would they do this? Not enough proof? are you effing kidding me?
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:50:05
Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I am really starting to get pissed too. I can make no sense of this.
Why would they do this? Not enough proof? are you effing kidding me?
Comment by BobR on 05/21/2009 13:51:32
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
BobR on 05/21/2009 13:51:32
Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:52:46
Heya Scoop,
The tinier the betterer - free parking for 30 minutes - can't beat that :D
Shall I plan on a visit from you and Mrs. Scoop? Any young Scoopsters? Ya gotta love doggies - my two boyz run da house (Tulsey weighs in at 82 lbs, Dillie carries 68 lbs.) and both are very friendly (read like to lick :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:52:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all!
BTW I've been to Tulsa before.. that airport is tiiiiiny!
Heya Scoop,
The tinier the betterer - free parking for 30 minutes - can't beat that :D
Shall I plan on a visit from you and Mrs. Scoop? Any young Scoopsters? Ya gotta love doggies - my two boyz run da house (Tulsey weighs in at 82 lbs, Dillie carries 68 lbs.) and both are very friendly (read like to lick :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:53:34
oh, the anacronym(sp) was a happy accident since they are already FRP'rs :D
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 13:53:34
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I decided something yesterday when a certain party requested another party change it's name.
I've decided that I'll be all for changing to the Democrat Socialist Party IF they change to the Fascist Republic Party and they go first.
I like that!
They would be the FRP'rs.... now that works!
oh, the anacronym(sp) was a happy accident since they are already FRP'rs :D
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:54:17
I would REALLY like for those Fucking B*sh appointees to be replaced already.
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:54:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
I would REALLY like for those Fucking B*sh appointees to be replaced already.
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:55:15
:blink: Mrs. Scoop?! :sprint:
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:55:15
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all!
BTW I've been to Tulsa before.. that airport is tiiiiiny!
Heya Scoop,
The tinier the betterer - free parking for 30 minutes - can't beat that :D
Shall I plan on a visit from you and Mrs. Scoop? Any young Scoopsters? Ya gotta love doggies - my two boyz run da house (Tulsey weighs in at 82 lbs, Dillie carries 68 lbs.) and both are very friendly (read like to lick :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
:blink: Mrs. Scoop?! :sprint:
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:55:46
I saw that on the HuffPo this morning - sigh & :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:55:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
I saw that on the HuffPo this morning - sigh
& :rage:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 13:57:36
Can this still be appealed?
Raine on 05/21/2009 13:57:36
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
I saw that on the HuffPo this morning - sigh
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:57:46
Yeah if that's the case then this is getting entirely out of hand. Those fascist cronies should be long gone by now.
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 13:57:46
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
I would point out that it was the DOJ that made the decision, not Obama himself.
I would REALLY like for those Fucking B*sh appointees to be replaced already.
Yeah if that's the case then this is getting entirely out of hand. Those fascist cronies should be long gone by now.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:58:27
Ah Ha, so there is no Mrs. Scoopster?
I must have confused you with another 4Fer... Come away, Scoop :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 13:58:27
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all!
BTW I've been to Tulsa before.. that airport is tiiiiiny!
Heya Scoop,
The tinier the betterer - free parking for 30 minutes - can't beat that :D
Shall I plan on a visit from you and Mrs. Scoop? Any young Scoopsters? Ya gotta love doggies - my two boyz run da house (Tulsey weighs in at 82 lbs, Dillie carries 68 lbs.) and both are very friendly (read like to lick :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
:blink: Mrs. Scoop?! :sprint:
Ah Ha, so there is no Mrs. Scoopster?
I must have confused you with another 4Fer... Come away, Scoop :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Random on 05/21/2009 13:59:20
Random has no comment.
Random on 05/21/2009 13:59:20
Quote by Scoopster:
THIS IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
I've been pretty mellow and understanding with the Obama Administration's effortsand actions, up until this point. I'm EXTREMELY PISSED at this choice.
Random has no comment.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 14:02:26
Random,
I will protect you from the evil-doers, trust me, there are ways around (they's all purty darn stoopid, so's they's ez to git 'round :P). Where do you live, Random?
Cheers,
mfaye & :peace:
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 14:02:26
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
I really like Keith Ellison!
Me too :D
:clap:
Cheers,
mfaye
P. S. Anybody who can get to Tulsa is welcome to hang at my house this weekend - I will buy you whatever Adult Substance you like
Temptress!
Road trip!
Random can't go to no Tulsa...evil people.
Random,
I will protect you from the evil-doers, trust me, there are ways around (they's all purty darn stoopid, so's they's ez to git 'round :P). Where do you live, Random?
Cheers,
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by Random on 05/21/2009 14:13:30
South Florida...Long ways. Random doesn't have time or money to do it.
Random on 05/21/2009 14:13:30
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:
Random can't go to no Tulsa...evil people.
Random,
I will protect you from the evil-doers, trust me, there are ways around (they's all purty darn stoopid, so's they's ez to git 'round :P). Where do you live, Random?
Cheers,
mfaye
South Florida...Long ways. Random doesn't have time or money to do it.
Comment by 
livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:17:23
livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:17:23
Good morning everyone.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:23:27
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:23:27
Hey Liv. You are up early today!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 14:24:10
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 14:24:10
Mornin' Liv! :coffee:
:coffee:
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 14:26:18
velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 14:26:18
Hahahaha! Michelle Malkin says that "O inherited the FBI investigation that led to NYC terror bust--& many more. Thank Bush/Cheney." on her twitter!
Um, so, is she admitting that 911 was Bush's fault in that he inherited OBL? (Even after he was warned repeatedly).
Um, so, is she admitting that 911 was Bush's fault in that he inherited OBL? (Even after he was warned repeatedly).
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:28:07
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:28:07
HEre comes the Pres! (steaming it at CNN.com... )
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:28:39
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:28:39
Vel you're applying logic to a Malkin arguement - her head would s'plode
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:30:14
Stuff to do. Usually harder to sleep once the weather starts to get warm.
livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:30:14
Quote by Raine:
Hey Liv. You are up early today!
Stuff to do. Usually harder to sleep once the weather starts to get warm.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:33:06
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:33:06
Told you! he just mentioned the Declaration of independence and the Constitution ! (and the bill of rights -- I forgot about that in the blog :blush: )
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:34:07
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:34:07
Sayibng that we can't turn our back on these principles for expedience Sake.
Comment by m-hadley on 05/21/2009 14:34:59
Heya Livin,
Do you have time off over the Memorial Day weekend ? You should come on out to Tulsa, I hear there are very cheap flights available - think about it. 'Twould be good to see you :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 05/21/2009 14:34:59
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.
Heya Livin,
Do you have time off over the Memorial Day weekend ? You should come on out to Tulsa, I hear there are very cheap flights available - think about it. 'Twould be good to see you :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:35:23
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:35:23
Our values are our best national security asset."
Thank you President Obama.
Thank you President Obama.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:36:35
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:36:35
All too often our government made decisions based on Fear.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:37:34
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:37:34
did he just cut Cheny's legs out from under him?
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 14:43:52
:grumble: And what motivated the decision to not engage those who put this country's cover operatives in danger, sir.
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 14:43:52
Quote by Raine:
All too often our government made decisions based on Fear.
:grumble: And what motivated the decision to not engage those who put this country's cover operatives in danger, sir.
Comment by BobR on 05/21/2009 14:50:07
yep - right before he threw him under the bus..
BobR on 05/21/2009 14:50:07
Quote by wickedpam:
did he just cut Cheny's legs out from under him?
yep - right before he threw him under the bus..
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:52:52
all done with style and class
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:52:52
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
did he just cut Cheny's legs out from under him?
yep - right before he threw him under the bus..
all done with style and class
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:53:34
livingonli on 05/21/2009 14:53:34
I am working Memorial Day weekend. Need the holiday pay. Then I am taking 2 weeks off to try and go through my stuff and see what I can get rid of. I have to start downsizing my space especially if I have to move because I need a cheaper apartment.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:57:10
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:57:10
Seriously, how can you argue with this speech?
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:58:37
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:58:37
What the fuck do we do with these people?
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 14:59:22
Raine on 05/21/2009 14:59:22
Wow.
Comment by BobR on 05/21/2009 14:59:44
BobR on 05/21/2009 14:59:44
Did Momma just say "suck on that dick"??? :o
oh wait - there was a comma after "that".... :P
oh wait - there was a comma after "that".... :P
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:59:56
you can do it Liv, getting rid of stuff is very liberating :)
I mean don't get rid of stuff that is important to you, just lose the things that are in your way (did that make sense?)
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 14:59:56
Quote by livingonli:
I am working Memorial Day weekend. Need the holiday pay. Then I am taking 2 weeks off to try and go through my stuff and see what I can get rid of. I have to start downsizing my space especially if I have to move because I need a cheaper apartment.
you can do it Liv, getting rid of stuff is very liberating :)
I mean don't get rid of stuff that is important to you, just lose the things that are in your way (did that make sense?)
Comment by BobR on 05/21/2009 15:00:19
BobR on 05/21/2009 15:00:19
Obama referred to the detainees as "POWs" - that's huge...
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:01:27
I don't think you can - it was all spelled out in easy to understand terms, in positive language, and done in a way that I don't feel talked down too.
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:01:27
Quote by Raine:
Seriously, how can you argue with this speech?
I don't think you can - it was all spelled out in easy to understand terms, in positive language, and done in a way that I don't feel talked down too.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:01:47
HE also asked for Congressional oversite.
That is really a huge thing. They are no longer considered enemy combatants, and now it seems as tho the geneva conventions must be applied.
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:01:47
Quote by BobR:
Obama referred to the detainees as "POWs" - that's huge...
That is really a huge thing. They are no longer considered enemy combatants, and now it seems as tho the geneva conventions must be applied.
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:03:19
What I have realized is that I have too much stuff and it's weighing me down. I hope I can at least get some decent money for my comics.
livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:03:19
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
I am working Memorial Day weekend. Need the holiday pay. Then I am taking 2 weeks off to try and go through my stuff and see what I can get rid of. I have to start downsizing my space especially if I have to move because I need a cheaper apartment.
you can do it Liv, getting rid of stuff is very liberating :)
I mean don't get rid of stuff that is important to you, just lose the things that are in your way (did that make sense?)
What I have realized is that I have too much stuff and it's weighing me down. I hope I can at least get some decent money for my comics.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:03:31
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:03:31
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:03:43
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:03:43
He is talking about the Photos and his decision to not release them.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:05:20
research a reputable dealer before you go off, maybe the library has some pricing guides so you don't go in like a lamb to slaughter. Let me know if you want help reseraching and I'll see what I can dig up for you
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:05:20
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
I am working Memorial Day weekend. Need the holiday pay. Then I am taking 2 weeks off to try and go through my stuff and see what I can get rid of. I have to start downsizing my space especially if I have to move because I need a cheaper apartment.
you can do it Liv, getting rid of stuff is very liberating :)
I mean don't get rid of stuff that is important to you, just lose the things that are in your way (did that make sense?)
What I have realized is that I have too much stuff and it's weighing me down. I hope I can at least get some decent money for my comics.
research a reputable dealer before you go off, maybe the library has some pricing guides so you don't go in like a lamb to slaughter. Let me know if you want help reseraching and I'll see what I can dig up for you
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:07:48
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:07:48
HE is now talking about the Review and overuse of the States Secret's priviledge
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:10:59
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:10:59
"when I keep something secret I will tell you why"
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:15:32
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:15:32
This is getting interesting.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:17:10
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:17:10
Not sure that I agree there.
People broke the rule of law. People should be held accountable.
People broke the rule of law. People should be held accountable.
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:20:34
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:20:34
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 15:20:40
TriSec on 05/21/2009 15:20:40
Hey gang....out of my meeting and in for the last hour of momma.
What happened to the show? Who are these people? Who's that lady? Where's Chris?
Jeez, I quit listening for two months, and everything changes!!
What happened to the show? Who are these people? Who's that lady? Where's Chris?
Jeez, I quit listening for two months, and everything changes!!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:23:28
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:23:28
OK.. silly moment time.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:27:04
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:27:04
Cheney: noting terror attack on 9/11 was just most severe in series of attacks that began in 1993. Says 9/11 warranted shift in policy.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:27:44
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:27:44
Cheney is Obama's point - that we were living in a state of fear that produced wrong-headed decisions...
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 15:28:24
TriSec on 05/21/2009 15:28:24
Chiming in out of context, but the US and our principles have been so egregiously damaged over the last 8 years, that I think a South Africa-style "Truth and Reconciliation Committee" would be beneficial.
There have been terrible things done in all our names, and we need to cleanse ourselves before the world; if nothing else to restore our credibility.
There have been terrible things done in all our names, and we need to cleanse ourselves before the world; if nothing else to restore our credibility.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:28:25
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:28:25
"The Capitol or the White House were spared by the Americans on Flight 93"
(And --- F*ck you NY?)
(And --- F*ck you NY?)
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:29:17
But who ignored the 52 warnings that 9/11 was going to happen?
livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:29:17
Quote by Raine:
Cheney: noting terror attack on 9/11 was just most severe in series of attacks that began in 1993. Says 9/11 warranted shift in policy.
But who ignored the 52 warnings that 9/11 was going to happen?
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:29:45
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:29:45
OK, here is Dick's Speech:
Be Afraid of the future, but don't look back. 9/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/11
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9/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/11
9/119/119/119/119/119/11.
Fuck you very much.
Be Afraid of the future, but don't look back. 9/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/11
9/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/11
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9/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/119/11
9/119/119/119/119/119/11.
Fuck you very much.
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:31:50
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:31:50
:rofl: 9/11 broke the bloggie!
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:34:48
all fixed! Let's not dwell on that, ok?
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:34:48
Quote by Scoopster:
:rofl: 9/11 broke the bloggie!
all fixed! Let's not dwell on that, ok?
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:36:15
livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:36:15
Cheney should have horns on his head.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 15:37:27
Raine on 05/21/2009 15:37:27
One of the most amazing things here- in hearing back to back speeches--
You can really understand how MUCH things have really changed in our Nation since this administration has taken over.
You can really understand how MUCH things have really changed in our Nation since this administration has taken over.
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:47:11
livingonli on 05/21/2009 15:47:11
I leaned on something and now I have a pain in my side. It hurts when I move or cough.
Geesh, my luck just keeps going downhill.
Geesh, my luck just keeps going downhill.
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:47:43
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 15:47:43
Facebook is actin' weird today.. most of the images come up as broken links.
Comment by velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 15:56:47
velveeta jones on 05/21/2009 15:56:47
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:57:07
nothin' to see here. move along
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:57:07
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
:rofl: 9/11 broke the bloggie!
all fixed! Let's not dwell on that, ok?
nothin' to see here. move along
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:59:00
happens to me all the time, esp when I set my foot down in a certain way, probably just a stitch :hug:
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 15:59:00
Quote by livingonli:
I leaned on something and now I have a pain in my side. It hurts when I move or cough.
Geesh, my luck just keeps going downhill.
happens to me all the time, esp when I set my foot down in a certain way, probably just a stitch :hug:
Comment by BobR on 05/21/2009 16:02:22
not for me - could be your connection...
BobR on 05/21/2009 16:02:22
Quote by Scoopster:
Facebook is actin' weird today.. most of the images come up as broken links.
not for me - could be your connection...
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 16:05:44
livingonli on 05/21/2009 16:05:44
FB's been OK for me. Time to go take my shower though.
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 16:15:01
TriSec on 05/21/2009 16:15:01
Meh. Big Ed up after Momma in Boston.
I can't abide Ed.
I can't abide Ed.
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 16:31:35
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 16:31:35
Ah ok musta been a brief server gimp.. FB's back to normal now.
Comment by wickedpam on 05/21/2009 17:17:27
wickedpam on 05/21/2009 17:17:27
lol - Thom said cooties :spit:
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 17:37:41
livingonli on 05/21/2009 17:37:41
Now that I got paid I can go to the store.
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 18:00:24
TriSec on 05/21/2009 18:00:24
eep! Turkey Vulture out in the tree....he looks hungry!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 18:02:03
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 18:02:03
You've got quite the aviary outside your new digs eh Tri?
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 18:19:20
TriSec on 05/21/2009 18:19:20
I'm on the far side of the Cambridge Reservoir. My office in on the side overlooking the Lincoln Woods. There's a few hundred acres of undeveloped land around here.
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 19:01:50
TriSec on 05/21/2009 19:01:50
Wha?
I'm listening to WCRB (99.5 FM) this afternoon. I was only half-listening, but I think I just heard a commercial for a dude.
It sounded like he was reading his resume, and he concluded with "If you need an electrical engineer, give me a call!!" with his info.
Are we that desperate now?
(and in a side note, I went out for my daily constitutional today, further exploring the office park I'm in. I'd guess the next park over is fully 1/3 empty; entire buildings are shuttered and dark.)
I'm listening to WCRB (99.5 FM) this afternoon. I was only half-listening, but I think I just heard a commercial for a dude.
It sounded like he was reading his resume, and he concluded with "If you need an electrical engineer, give me a call!!" with his info.
Are we that desperate now?
(and in a side note, I went out for my daily constitutional today, further exploring the office park I'm in. I'd guess the next park over is fully 1/3 empty; entire buildings are shuttered and dark.)
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 19:14:20
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 19:14:20
Ooof man.. it's way too nice outside for work today.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 05/21/2009 19:27:29
What is this "nice" of which you speak, Sir? I have dim memories of this thing called "The Sun," which if I remember correctly provides bright light and warmth. Since I have been living in a gray, overcast rain soaked pall for what seems like an eternity, I might be wrong about this "Sun" thing. Am I right?
Mondobubba on 05/21/2009 19:27:29
Quote by Scoopster:
Ooof man.. it's way too nice outside for work today.
What is this "nice" of which you speak, Sir? I have dim memories of this thing called "The Sun," which if I remember correctly provides bright light and warmth. Since I have been living in a gray, overcast rain soaked pall for what seems like an eternity, I might be wrong about this "Sun" thing. Am I right?
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 19:49:43
TriSec on 05/21/2009 19:49:43
*snort*
Sounds like a New England spring. Only we get that weather in March and April, so in addition to a gray, overcast, rain-soaked pall....it's freakin' COLD!
Sounds like a New England spring. Only we get that weather in March and April, so in addition to a gray, overcast, rain-soaked pall....it's freakin' COLD!
Comment by Scoopster on 05/21/2009 20:11:12
Scoopster on 05/21/2009 20:11:12
Ahh a good day's work is now done, and now it's time to pillage iTunes for all the new music I downloaded while I was here. :lol:
Comment by TriSec on 05/21/2009 20:33:26
TriSec on 05/21/2009 20:33:26
Well gang, I'm heading up to the store in a bit. I'm starting a new job there Saturday, and we need to finish CPR and First Aid training. (gee, I am *so* worried about that.) Plus, I hope to get a couple more miles on the road in the bus tonight.
Comment by Mondobubba on 05/21/2009 21:12:49
Oh it has been unseasonably chilly here as well.
Mondobubba on 05/21/2009 21:12:49
Quote by TriSec:
*snort*
Sounds like a New England spring. Only we get that weather in March and April, so in addition to a gray, overcast, rain-soaked pall....it's freakin' COLD!
Oh it has been unseasonably chilly here as well.
Comment by livingonli on 05/21/2009 22:33:41
livingonli on 05/21/2009 22:33:41
It's a nice day here for a change. At least I was able to get outside for a bit even if it was only to go to Target, the drug store, and get some pizza.
It's still going to take a lot (winning the lottery would be nice) to get me out of this funk.
It's still going to take a lot (winning the lottery would be nice) to get me out of this funk.
Comment by Random on 05/21/2009 22:44:19
Random on 05/21/2009 22:44:19
Wow...aparantly we're gonna set the Terrorists free, and pay them to be in this country.
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 23:18:20
Raine on 05/21/2009 23:18:20
:rofl: HOW did I miss this? (language NWF)
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 23:19:17
Oh yeah? Who said that? 'Jack' Boener?
Raine on 05/21/2009 23:19:17
Quote by Random:
Wow...aparantly we're gonna set the Terrorists free, and pay them to be in this country.
Oh yeah? Who said that? 'Jack' Boener?
Comment by Raine on 05/21/2009 23:22:30
Here too. I keep asking myself if I am in Atlanta or NY.
Raine on 05/21/2009 23:22:30
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
*snort*
Sounds like a New England spring. Only we get that weather in March and April, so in addition to a gray, overcast, rain-soaked pall....it's freakin' COLD!
Oh it has been unseasonably chilly here as well.
Comment by livingonli on 05/22/2009 02:45:36
livingonli on 05/22/2009 02:45:36
So, who watched the special comment tonight?