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Stimulus 2.0 -- or how I learned to love the lie.
Author: Raine
Date: 07/09/2009 12:39:49
Yesterday, above or below the noise and the din of the Jackson Palin Media channels was another discussion that political wonks seems to be having. It was talk of a second stimulus. With questions being bandied about cable news, online media and the blogosphere like 'will we need a Stimulus 2.0?' and 'are we spending enough?' to the constant drumbeat of how 'the stimulus has been a failure', I was wondering where this idea of a Stimulus 2.0 came from. I have watched the President, I have paid fairly close attention to what is going on. I simply couldn't recall where the meme came from.
Poking around, asking a few questions, as I am known sometimes to do, it turns out that it came from -- you got it --- the media. The title of this article With a Caveat, Hoyer Says He's Open to Second Economic Stimulus sites the following from Steney Hoyer In that very same article, Harry Reid stated that there were no plans for an additional stimulus. Then there was this last paragraph: Whew-- so glad we got that tiny piece of truth out of the way... or did we? Understandably, there has been talk that more work needs to be done. Hoyer and others have stated that additional actions could include extending unemployment benefits, releasing more of the stimulus money sooner, passing new tax cuts, payroll holidays, etc. Everyone is saying it is too early to be talking this idea. It seems as though the meme of a Stimulus 2.0 is still out there thriving.
The Republicans are going to have a talking point field day with something that is not true. During his June 23 press conference, the President stated the following: So about 8-10% of the package has been spent, the President, Harry Reid and others have not stated we need a second one, and still the meme continues. It's my understanding that the bulk of the original package was to be spent in 2010, as people thought things of this sort were supposed to get really bad. Both the President and Vice President said things are worse than we thought. Joe Biden stated on July 5th that is was premature to think of a new stimulus bill. I will let others pontificate on those issues. The ship is, in my opinion still turning around, This chart is a nice little visual. The media seems unable to report subtle things that might require nuance to tell a complete story.
Stimulus 2.0 is a media created story. It a classic example of political projection. It frustrates the heck out of me, because this is just the kind of thing that the GOP will grab onto like a rabid dog. You think the teabaggers aren't going to go nuts about this? There is no second stimulus right now. The only people pushing this idea are the media. I just googled Second Stimulus and there were tons of stories all starting out with the question: Is another Stimulus needed?
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." For our corporatist media-- This seems to be a truth.
:peace: and
Raine
Poking around, asking a few questions, as I am known sometimes to do, it turns out that it came from -- you got it --- the media. The title of this article With a Caveat, Hoyer Says He's Open to Second Economic Stimulus sites the following from Steney Hoyer
"I think we need to be open to whether we need additional action. We need to continue to focus on bringing the economy back to a place where we're not losing jobs."
Hoyer made no specific proposals for a possible additional stimulus. Others have suggested extended unemployment compensation benefits and a payroll tax holiday.
But on Tuesday, according to news reports, Laura Tyson, a member of the president's Economic Advisory Panel, said that while the current stimulus is of an appropriate size and includes "a significant amount of investment in long-term growth," another may be necessary to put the economy on the right track. Speaking at an economic forum in Singapore, Tyson said she was expressing her own views, not the administration's position.
The Republicans are going to have a talking point field day with something that is not true. During his June 23 press conference, the President stated the following:
Q: Thank you, Mr. President. If I can just return to the economy more generally. When you were selling the economic stimulus package, you talked and your advisors and economists talked about keeping unemployment below 8 percent. Last week you acknowledged that unemployment is likely to reach double digits, being 10 percent. Do you think you need a second stimulus package?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, not yet, because I think it's important to see how the economy evolves and how effective the first stimulus is. I think it's fair to say that -- keep in mind the stimulus package was the first thing we did, and we did it a couple of weeks after inauguration. At that point nobody understood what the depths of this recession were going to look like. If you recall, it was only significantly later that we suddenly get a report that the economy had tanked.
And so it's not surprising then that we missed the mark in terms of our estimates of where unemployment would go. I think it's pretty clear now that unemployment will end up going over 10 percent, if you just look at the pattern, because of the fact that even after employers and businesses start investing again and start hiring again, typically it takes a while for that employment number to catch up with economic recovery. And we're still not at actual recovery yet.
So I anticipate that this is going to be a difficult -- difficult year, a difficult period.
Stimulus 2.0 is a media created story. It a classic example of political projection. It frustrates the heck out of me, because this is just the kind of thing that the GOP will grab onto like a rabid dog. You think the teabaggers aren't going to go nuts about this? There is no second stimulus right now. The only people pushing this idea are the media. I just googled Second Stimulus and there were tons of stories all starting out with the question: Is another Stimulus needed?
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." For our corporatist media-- This seems to be a truth.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
TriSec on 07/09/2009 12:46:04
TriSec on 07/09/2009 12:46:04
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Aw come on, that's just Hitler talking. (or was it Goebbels?)
:peace:
Morning, folks!
Aw come on, that's just Hitler talking. (or was it Goebbels?)
:peace:
Morning, folks!
Comment by 
Raine on 07/09/2009 12:54:51
It was Goebbels, and it was one thing that I sadly agree with.
Raine on 07/09/2009 12:54:51
Quote by TriSec:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Aw come on, that's just Hitler talking. (or was it Goebbels?)
:peace:
Morning, folks!
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 12:59:35
Raine on 07/09/2009 12:59:35
Keeeristontoast.
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by 
Random on 07/09/2009 13:09:21
One thing you can said about the Nazis. They knew how to get a message across.
Random on 07/09/2009 13:09:21
Quote by Raine:It was Goebbels, and it was one thing that I sadly agree with.Quote by TriSec:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Aw come on, that's just Hitler talking. (or was it Goebbels?)
:peace:
Morning, folks!
One thing you can said about the Nazis. They knew how to get a message across.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:12:31
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:12:31
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:14:18
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:14:18
Morning all! 
:hug:
...or if you want to use the Bush version...
"See, in my line of work you have to repeat things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."
:hug:...or if you want to use the Bush version...
"See, in my line of work you have to repeat things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 13:18:29
Raine on 07/09/2009 13:18:29
One more thing that is really pissing me off about this stimulus thing is that the Money that HAS gone to the states isn't being spent. How pray tell is that The Presidents fault?
:waiting:
:waiting:
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 13:20:06
Do we need more proof he wasn't a Nazi? Can't even make his message coherent.
Random on 07/09/2009 13:20:06
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all!
...or if you want to use the Bush version...
"See, in my line of work you have to repeat things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."
Do we need more proof he wasn't a Nazi? Can't even make his message coherent.
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/09/2009 13:35:27
starling310 on 07/09/2009 13:35:27
Well done Raine. So true...and people just eat it up with a spoon.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:35:28
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:35:28
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 13:35:41
Raine on 07/09/2009 13:35:41
See this caller is proving my point ---- So sad.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:35:43
I think the Repub run VA congress voted not to take it - the Gov was PISSED. He wanted that money for roads and jobs projects
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:35:43
Quote by Raine:
One more thing that is really pissing me off about this stimulus thing is that the Money that HAS gone to the states isn't being spent. How pray tell is that The Presidents fault?
:waiting:
I think the Repub run VA congress voted not to take it - the Gov was PISSED. He wanted that money for roads and jobs projects
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:40:06
TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:40:06
Ya know, just listening to Keith reading Sarah's tweets makes my brain atrophy...
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:43:39
That's odd. The way I read the Bible, slavery is VERY Christian. All Christ was concerned about was that they were treated well, not that they were emancipated...
TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:43:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Here's a topic.. Slavery was neither Judeo nor Christian. Discuss!
That's odd. The way I read the Bible, slavery is VERY Christian. All Christ was concerned about was that they were treated well, not that they were emancipated...
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 13:48:22
Raine on 07/09/2009 13:48:22
Comment by 
BobR on 07/09/2009 13:49:29
BobR on 07/09/2009 13:49:29
This is going to be our job for the next 4 years - grabbing the talking points from the jibber jabberers, find the source and the truth, and then feed it back out into the atmosphere. I am way past sick of the pseudo-legitimate media using the FAUX News model of "some say" as a way to report out and out lies as if they were the truth.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 13:50:27
And that is just the federal Agencies -- there is a link for the state monies as well.
Raine on 07/09/2009 13:50:27
Quote by Raine:
In case anyone wants to know -- here is how the Stimulus Money has been Paid out.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 13:53:29
Random on 07/09/2009 13:53:29
I don't get this caller...
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 13:54:26
Random on 07/09/2009 13:54:26
Hasn't the States basically been in Debt since 1774?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:54:58
Think that comes from the whole "conquering nations conquer" theroy. In wars nations (or kingdoms) would take the people of other lands and turn them in to slaves. It was the wages of war. I'm not saying its not bad I'm just saying that's my vague notion of ancient history
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 13:54:58
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Scoopster:
Here's a topic.. Slavery was neither Judeo nor Christian. Discuss!
That's odd. The way I read the Bible, slavery is VERY Christian. All Christ was concerned about was that they were treated well, not that they were emancipated...
Think that comes from the whole "conquering nations conquer" theroy. In wars nations (or kingdoms) would take the people of other lands and turn them in to slaves. It was the wages of war. I'm not saying its not bad I'm just saying that's my vague notion of ancient history
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:58:02
From Massachusetts:
84.389 Title I Grants to Local Educational Agencies $165,204,537
This is part of my beef with the City of Waltham right now. The school budget was off by just $4m. Didn't we get any of the stimulus money to help close the gap? Not to mention the $15m in the city's "rainy day fund"?
Nay, the mayor came up with a complex scheme to bump up against the prop 2 1/2 cap and raise the property taxes without actually bringing it to an override vote, while at the same time laying off 130 teachers and gutting the school administration.
Fortunately, City Council overrode her and restored the budget. Which has touched off the anti-incumbent backlash in town right now. (Mayor and School Committee, primarily. Although every City Council seat is challenged this year, too.)
TriSec on 07/09/2009 13:58:02
Quote by Raine:
In case anyone wants to know -- here is how the Stimulus Money has been Paid out.
From Massachusetts:
84.389 Title I Grants to Local Educational Agencies $165,204,537
This is part of my beef with the City of Waltham right now. The school budget was off by just $4m. Didn't we get any of the stimulus money to help close the gap? Not to mention the $15m in the city's "rainy day fund"?
Nay, the mayor came up with a complex scheme to bump up against the prop 2 1/2 cap and raise the property taxes without actually bringing it to an override vote, while at the same time laying off 130 teachers and gutting the school administration.
Fortunately, City Council overrode her and restored the budget. Which has touched off the anti-incumbent backlash in town right now. (Mayor and School Committee, primarily. Although every City Council seat is challenged this year, too.)
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:58:46
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a Christian thing - it was more a Roman or Egyptian practice, though the Jews did own slaves as well.. Of course, the Romans did eventually adopt Christianity. I just think it was more of an accepted practice at the time when the bulk of the Bible's events take place, and you have to take that into account when interpreting the stories and lessons it contains to today's world society where slavery is, for the most part, no longer practiced or acceptable.
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 13:58:46
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Scoopster:
Here's a topic.. Slavery was neither Judeo nor Christian. Discuss!
That's odd. The way I read the Bible, slavery is VERY Christian. All Christ was concerned about was that they were treated well, not that they were emancipated...
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a Christian thing - it was more a Roman or Egyptian practice, though the Jews did own slaves as well.. Of course, the Romans did eventually adopt Christianity. I just think it was more of an accepted practice at the time when the bulk of the Bible's events take place, and you have to take that into account when interpreting the stories and lessons it contains to today's world society where slavery is, for the most part, no longer practiced or acceptable.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:00:58
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:00:58
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:03:43
Very true.
Slavery in the bible is far from the slavery of the founding of this country. Those enslaved then were often on the losing side of a war. By the time this country was founded, the slaves were just random people who were kidnapped.
If that makes sense at all...
Random on 07/09/2009 14:03:43
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Scoopster:
Here's a topic.. Slavery was neither Judeo nor Christian. Discuss!
That's odd. The way I read the Bible, slavery is VERY Christian. All Christ was concerned about was that they were treated well, not that they were emancipated...
Think that comes from the whole "conquering nations conquer" theroy. In wars nations (or kingdoms) would take the people of other lands and turn them in to slaves. It was the wages of war. I'm not saying its not bad I'm just saying that's my vague notion of ancient history
Very true.
Slavery in the bible is far from the slavery of the founding of this country. Those enslaved then were often on the losing side of a war. By the time this country was founded, the slaves were just random people who were kidnapped.
If that makes sense at all...
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:10:21
That's fine. Doesn't he have a Secret Service detail for the next 10 years? Shouldn't they (and us) be paying for all this, instead of making Dallas duplicate the effort?
(and as we all know, Presidents used to get SS protection for life....Newtie and the Repugs cut it back to 10 years as a dig on Mr. Clinton.)
TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:10:21
That's fine. Doesn't he have a Secret Service detail for the next 10 years? Shouldn't they (and us) be paying for all this, instead of making Dallas duplicate the effort?
(and as we all know, Presidents used to get SS protection for life....Newtie and the Repugs cut it back to 10 years as a dig on Mr. Clinton.)
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/09/2009 14:12:19
Why don't they just put up a full sized cut out of Dick Cheney with a hunting rifle in his hands? That'll slow down the riff raff.
Morning all.
velveeta jones on 07/09/2009 14:12:19
Why don't they just put up a full sized cut out of Dick Cheney with a hunting rifle in his hands? That'll slow down the riff raff.
Morning all.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:14:09
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:14:09
Am I the only one who doesn't find sasha baron cohen funny?
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:14:48
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:14:48
Oooh Gaming/MMO news time!
With merger completed, experienced MMO maker Mythic (Dark Age of Chaos, Warhammer Online) is now teamed up with KOTOR creator Bioware on Star Wars Old Republic MMO
I also got word on a possible offline beta group signup for Final Fantasy XIV. It was advertised on a Japanese website though so no word on whether it'll be available to NA clients.
With merger completed, experienced MMO maker Mythic (Dark Age of Chaos, Warhammer Online) is now teamed up with KOTOR creator Bioware on Star Wars Old Republic MMO
I also got word on a possible offline beta group signup for Final Fantasy XIV. It was advertised on a Japanese website though so no word on whether it'll be available to NA clients.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:15:38
Oh, no. I find some of his stuff mildly amusing, but for the most part it's juvenile and irritating to me.
TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:15:38
Quote by wickedpam:
Am I the only one who doesn't find sasha baron cohen funny?
Oh, no. I find some of his stuff mildly amusing, but for the most part it's juvenile and irritating to me.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:22:41
dang on - bet it's not going to come out in any verision I can play...
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:22:41
Quote by Scoopster:
Oooh Gaming/MMO news time!
With merger completed, experienced MMO maker Mythic (Dark Age of Chaos, Warhammer Online) is now teamed up with KOTOR creator Bioware on Star Wars Old Republic MMO
I also got word on a possible offline beta group signup for Final Fantasy XIV. It was advertised on a Japanese website though so no word on whether it'll be available to NA clients.
dang on - bet it's not going to come out in any verision I can play...
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:23:21
No...no you aren't.
Random on 07/09/2009 14:23:21
Quote by wickedpam:
Am I the only one who doesn't find sasha baron cohen funny?
No...no you aren't.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:27:11
He's abrasive and EXTREMELY satirical with his material, and he also mixes in a lot of just plain insane antics.
I want to say he's cutting edge for our time, like Lenny Bruce or Andy Kaufman or George Carlin were when they came on the scene.. it's a hard sell though.
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:27:11
Quote by wickedpam:
Am I the only one who doesn't find sasha baron cohen funny?
He's abrasive and EXTREMELY satirical with his material, and he also mixes in a lot of just plain insane antics.
I want to say he's cutting edge for our time, like Lenny Bruce or Andy Kaufman or George Carlin were when they came on the scene.. it's a hard sell though.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:29:54
Random on 07/09/2009 14:29:54
ACtually, what the CIA is being accused of lieing about, by Pelosi, and What Panetta has said they were lieing about are two different things...
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:33:30
Which FF or SW:TOR? Both should be playable on a current mid-range gaming computer and FFXIV will be on PS3 as well, though I'm not sure the beta will.
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:33:30
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oooh Gaming/MMO news time!
With merger completed, experienced MMO maker Mythic (Dark Age of Chaos, Warhammer Online) is now teamed up with KOTOR creator Bioware on Star Wars Old Republic MMO
I also got word on a possible offline beta group signup for Final Fantasy XIV. It was advertised on a Japanese website though so no word on whether it'll be available to NA clients.
dang on - bet it's not going to come out in any verision I can play...
Which FF or SW:TOR? Both should be playable on a current mid-range gaming computer and FFXIV will be on PS3 as well, though I'm not sure the beta will.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:33:49
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:33:49
See now Carlin I thought was hysterical, seen some Lenny Bruce, he was really funny too, Kaufman - he had to really grow on me before I got the joke - but Cohen just comes off as crude to me.
And granted, I get that there is humor in crudity but he keeps going until its loses its funny
And granted, I get that there is humor in crudity but he keeps going until its loses its funny
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:35:13
I just don't do the, what do they call it, MPORPG? and I don't have a PS3
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:35:13
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oooh Gaming/MMO news time!
With merger completed, experienced MMO maker Mythic (Dark Age of Chaos, Warhammer Online) is now teamed up with KOTOR creator Bioware on Star Wars Old Republic MMO
I also got word on a possible offline beta group signup for Final Fantasy XIV. It was advertised on a Japanese website though so no word on whether it'll be available to NA clients.
dang on - bet it's not going to come out in any verision I can play...
Which FF or SW:TOR? Both should be playable on a current mid-range gaming computer and FFXIV will be on PS3 as well, though I'm not sure the beta will.
I just don't do the, what do they call it, MPORPG? and I don't have a PS3
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:37:11
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:37:11
no one is saying you can't have private insurance.
dude, your just ignorant....
dude, your just ignorant....
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:37:43
Carlin has the exact opposite effect...as he got older, his jokes became less appealing. Still funny as hell, but not as much as in the 60's and 70's
Random on 07/09/2009 14:37:43
Quote by wickedpam:
See now Carlin I thought was hysterical, seen some Lenny Bruce, he was really funny too, Kaufman - he had to really grow on me before I got the joke - but Cohen just comes off as crude to me.
And granted, I get that there is humor in crudity but he keeps going until its loses its funny
Carlin has the exact opposite effect...as he got older, his jokes became less appealing. Still funny as hell, but not as much as in the 60's and 70's
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:37:44
TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:37:44
Say now, I just learned the Bluenose is going to be in town this weekend as part of SailBoston...
I sure hope we enjoy this one, since the tall ships won't ever come back to Boston as long as Menino is Mayor. (you could look it up; he essentially threatened to cancel the whole thing unless the organizers came up with $1m for "security". Payola, is more like it.)
I sure hope we enjoy this one, since the tall ships won't ever come back to Boston as long as Menino is Mayor. (you could look it up; he essentially threatened to cancel the whole thing unless the organizers came up with $1m for "security". Payola, is more like it.)
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 14:37:46
Raine on 07/09/2009 14:37:46
Let's discuss 2 arguments that have been proposed against healthcare reforn:
1. A government health care system would be terrible; just look at [insert any industrialized country here]
2. If people were offered the option of public health insurance, no private insurance company would be able to compete.
If #1 were true, Why worry about the private insurance companies? It would seems to me that people against a reform would be happy...
1. A government health care system would be terrible; just look at [insert any industrialized country here]
2. If people were offered the option of public health insurance, no private insurance company would be able to compete.
If #1 were true, Why worry about the private insurance companies? It would seems to me that people against a reform would be happy...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:38:22
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:38:22
I can't get a doctor right now, unless I'm dying, dummy 
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:39:27
some of the best things is still "a place for my stuff" and the words you can't say on tv
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:39:27
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:
See now Carlin I thought was hysterical, seen some Lenny Bruce, he was really funny too, Kaufman - he had to really grow on me before I got the joke - but Cohen just comes off as crude to me.
And granted, I get that there is humor in crudity but he keeps going until its loses its funny
Carlin has the exact opposite effect...as he got older, his jokes became less appealing. Still funny as hell, but not as much as in the 60's and 70's
some of the best things is still "a place for my stuff" and the words you can't say on tv
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:40:24
TriSec on 07/09/2009 14:40:24
Hey Scoop, did you ever get FSX? I'm still flying FS9 (ACOF) and I've been mulling over upgrading while I still can, since MSoft exterminated the franchise...
My computer is 5 years old now. Ancient history, I know, but I put a lot of upgrades into it to run FS9 at an acceptable level.
Of course, I could go the other way and dust off my old copy of 98. I never did have any problems with that version. (2000 sucked prong; I never got 02.)
My computer is 5 years old now. Ancient history, I know, but I put a lot of upgrades into it to run FS9 at an acceptable level.
Of course, I could go the other way and dust off my old copy of 98. I never did have any problems with that version. (2000 sucked prong; I never got 02.)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:40:58
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:40:58
ya know that actually is part of staying healthy, you can't anti-bacterial everything that's how we get super bugs
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2009 14:41:03
starling310 on 07/09/2009 14:41:03
Mala that's exactly what I was just going to say. If I felt really sick when I woke up this morning and I called the Doctor, I would NOT, I repeat NOT be able to get a Dr. appointment today. I would either have to go to a Walk-in clinic, where I am seeing someone who ISN'T my Doctor, or I would have to go to the ER. Do you wait at the ER? I can't remember. Hmmm....
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 14:42:21
Raine on 07/09/2009 14:42:21
I am so glad people are calling into the show with the healthcare stories.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:43:57
I'm still sad I'll never see him live.
Why didn't he get all the media coverage when he died like Michael Jackson?
He was a consistant preformer, preforming for 40 years, providing 40 years of material.
Random on 07/09/2009 14:43:57
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:
See now Carlin I thought was hysterical, seen some Lenny Bruce, he was really funny too, Kaufman - he had to really grow on me before I got the joke - but Cohen just comes off as crude to me.
And granted, I get that there is humor in crudity but he keeps going until its loses its funny
Carlin has the exact opposite effect...as he got older, his jokes became less appealing. Still funny as hell, but not as much as in the 60's and 70's
some of the best things is still "a place for my stuff" and the words you can't say on tv
I'm still sad I'll never see him live.
Why didn't he get all the media coverage when he died like Michael Jackson?
He was a consistant preformer, preforming for 40 years, providing 40 years of material.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:44:28
Nah I didn't.. Flight Sim wasn't really my thing I'm more a fantasy/rpg or 1P-shooter kinda person. I did play around with one of the early versions back in my school days though.
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 14:44:28
Quote by TriSec:
Hey Scoop, did you ever get FSX? I'm still flying FS9 (ACOF) and I've been mulling over upgrading while I still can, since MSoft exterminated the franchise...
My computer is 5 years old now. Ancient history, I know, but I put a lot of upgrades into it to run FS9 at an acceptable level.
Of course, I could go the other way and dust off my old copy of 98. I never did have any problems with that version. (2000 sucked prong; I never got 02.)
Nah I didn't.. Flight Sim wasn't really my thing I'm more a fantasy/rpg or 1P-shooter kinda person. I did play around with one of the early versions back in my school days though.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:47:53
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:47:53
THe first time I actually went to the emergency room, back when I sprained my ankle really badly and the doctor told me to go to get it xrayed in case it was broken, there was a girl who came in after me that was doubled over in pain.
I was fine sitting in a wheelchair, watching tv and trying not to fall asleep. A few hours after I got there they finally came out to get me and I told them they should take the girl before me because it was obvious she was in really hurting, they said they couldn't cause there system only allows for them to talk people in the order they came in unless it was by ambulance.
That was about the silliest thing I'd ever heard.
I was fine sitting in a wheelchair, watching tv and trying not to fall asleep. A few hours after I got there they finally came out to get me and I told them they should take the girl before me because it was obvious she was in really hurting, they said they couldn't cause there system only allows for them to talk people in the order they came in unless it was by ambulance.
That was about the silliest thing I'd ever heard.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:50:10
bloggy mind meld :)
Yeah exactly, when I had strep throat I had to wait a day before I could get in to see a doc, I was just lucky I didn't infect anyone else
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 14:50:10
Quote by starling310:
Mala that's exactly what I was just going to say. If I felt really sick when I woke up this morning and I called the Doctor, I would NOT, I repeat NOT be able to get a Dr. appointment today. I would either have to go to a Walk-in clinic, where I am seeing someone who ISN'T my Doctor, or I would have to go to the ER. Do you wait at the ER? I can't remember. Hmmm....
bloggy mind meld :)
Yeah exactly, when I had strep throat I had to wait a day before I could get in to see a doc, I was just lucky I didn't infect anyone else
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 14:54:11
Random on 07/09/2009 14:54:11
Random remembers when he broke his arms.
He went in about 8-9.
Didn't actually get in till bout midnight, when i had stiches into my chin (from the same accident).
and then had to wait another 24 hours till a doctor would actually set my bones.
So...that wasn't waiting?
And yes, Random is insured.
He went in about 8-9.
Didn't actually get in till bout midnight, when i had stiches into my chin (from the same accident).
and then had to wait another 24 hours till a doctor would actually set my bones.
So...that wasn't waiting?
And yes, Random is insured.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 15:02:01
Raine on 07/09/2009 15:02:01
I remember when doctors were brought into emergency rooms to set broken bones.
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2009 15:04:01
Yes, he's juvenile and crude, but the genius of his comedy is showing how other people react in uncomfortable situations. Howard Stern used to do that with the Stuttering John bit, where his reporter would fake a stutter, the interviewee would soften up because he felt sorry for him, and then John would toss the zinger. In particular, I remember him asking Imelda Marcos "when you fart, do blame it on the family dog?". Watching her face transform from self-important pity to shock to outrage was a thing of beauty.
Of course - this works best on those that are full of themselves. I squirm a little when Cohen does his thing on unexpectant regular "nice" people. I loved it in "Borat" when he took down the holier-than-thou preachers and the obnoxious frat boys; it was less enjoyable when he was pranking the nice people in the south that invited him to dinner.
BobR on 07/09/2009 15:04:01
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
Am I the only one who doesn't find sasha baron cohen funny?
He's abrasive and EXTREMELY satirical with his material, and he also mixes in a lot of just plain insane antics.
I want to say he's cutting edge for our time, like Lenny Bruce or Andy Kaufman or George Carlin were when they came on the scene.. it's a hard sell though.
Yes, he's juvenile and crude, but the genius of his comedy is showing how other people react in uncomfortable situations. Howard Stern used to do that with the Stuttering John bit, where his reporter would fake a stutter, the interviewee would soften up because he felt sorry for him, and then John would toss the zinger. In particular, I remember him asking Imelda Marcos "when you fart, do blame it on the family dog?". Watching her face transform from self-important pity to shock to outrage was a thing of beauty.
Of course - this works best on those that are full of themselves. I squirm a little when Cohen does his thing on unexpectant regular "nice" people. I loved it in "Borat" when he took down the holier-than-thou preachers and the obnoxious frat boys; it was less enjoyable when he was pranking the nice people in the south that invited him to dinner.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 15:06:02
Random on 07/09/2009 15:06:02
Actually, my fear of needles came from that exact incident.
Because they were going to "Operate" that night, i wasn't allowed to eat anything. and that meant since lunch, I had barely eaten.
and since they didn't know how severe the damage was to my arms. they didn't want to put the IV there, so they put it into my leg. And about 20 tries it took them. because, Random hadn't eaten, so the veins had shrunk making it hard to hit.
Random doesn't like needles...
Because they were going to "Operate" that night, i wasn't allowed to eat anything. and that meant since lunch, I had barely eaten.
and since they didn't know how severe the damage was to my arms. they didn't want to put the IV there, so they put it into my leg. And about 20 tries it took them. because, Random hadn't eaten, so the veins had shrunk making it hard to hit.
Random doesn't like needles...
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2009 15:06:57
Two ER visits for me:
1st) I gashed my thumb with a knife and ended up sitting in the waiting room with my thumb in a glass of iodine watching an entire Braves game before they stitched it up.
2nd) I broke my knee and waited at least 6 hours before they x-rayed it and confirmed it was broken. They slapped a brace on it, and told me to get to an orthopedic surgeon the next day to schedule a surgury.
BobR on 07/09/2009 15:06:57
Quote by wickedpam:
THe first time I actually went to the emergency room, back when I sprained my ankle really badly and the doctor told me to go to get it xrayed in case it was broken, there was a girl who came in after me that was doubled over in pain.
I was fine sitting in a wheelchair, watching tv and trying not to fall asleep. A few hours after I got there they finally came out to get me and I told them they should take the girl before me because it was obvious she was in really hurting, they said they couldn't cause there system only allows for them to talk people in the order they came in unless it was by ambulance.
That was about the silliest thing I'd ever heard.
Two ER visits for me:
1st) I gashed my thumb with a knife and ended up sitting in the waiting room with my thumb in a glass of iodine watching an entire Braves game before they stitched it up.
2nd) I broke my knee and waited at least 6 hours before they x-rayed it and confirmed it was broken. They slapped a brace on it, and told me to get to an orthopedic surgeon the next day to schedule a surgury.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 15:09:43
TriSec on 07/09/2009 15:09:43
You can go to the head of the line in the ER very easily.
No matter what the injury or complaint, call for an ambulance and tell them you're having chest pains.
I used to be an EMT; we knew people were abusing the system this way, but you have to take the patient at his word. If you think he's faking and it turns out he's not and he dies...
No matter what the injury or complaint, call for an ambulance and tell them you're having chest pains.
I used to be an EMT; we knew people were abusing the system this way, but you have to take the patient at his word. If you think he's faking and it turns out he's not and he dies...
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 15:10:34
Raine on 07/09/2009 15:10:34
From thinkprogress
Steele on Wednesday brushed off the recent incidents as “old news, old school.”
“That’s not the generation of candidates I’m trying to groom, he said.
Steele said the party needs to get back to its small-government roots. Daniels and fellow governors Haley Barbour of Mississippi, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana are great examples, he said.
“These guys are the laboratories for the ideas we believe in,” Steele said.
:huh:
Steele on Wednesday brushed off the recent incidents as “old news, old school.”
“That’s not the generation of candidates I’m trying to groom, he said.
Steele said the party needs to get back to its small-government roots. Daniels and fellow governors Haley Barbour of Mississippi, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana are great examples, he said.
“These guys are the laboratories for the ideas we believe in,” Steele said.
:huh:
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/09/2009 15:11:36
livingonli on 07/09/2009 15:11:36
Good morning everyone. 
This working late makes it really hard for me to get up and enjoy the fun.
This working late makes it really hard for me to get up and enjoy the fun.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 15:16:13
Err.. did he just compare governors who are recycled party figureheads and congresscritters to a baseball farm system?
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 15:16:13
Quote by Raine:
From thinkprogress
Steele on Wednesday brushed off the recent incidents as “old news, old school.”
“That’s not the generation of candidates I’m trying to groom, he said.
Steele said the party needs to get back to its small-government roots. Daniels and fellow governors Haley Barbour of Mississippi, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana are great examples, he said.
“These guys are the laboratories for the ideas we believe in,” Steele said.
:huh:
Err.. did he just compare governors who are recycled party figureheads and congresscritters to a baseball farm system?
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2009 15:24:35
livingonli on 07/09/2009 15:24:35
Gotta love it when an EMS test goes out on XM and cuts into Momma.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 15:47:27
Raine on 07/09/2009 15:47:27
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 15:51:27
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 15:51:27
Maybe they should be the party of roadblocks?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 16:12:52
Raine on 07/09/2009 16:12:52
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 16:21:07
TriSec on 07/09/2009 16:21:07
Rich/Republican's heads set to explode
WASHINGTON—House Democrats working on President Barack Obama's goal of health legislation are narrowing in on an income tax surcharge on the highest-paid wage earners to help subsidize insurance for the 50 million people who lack it.
Pushing to complete a comprehensive health care overhaul plan by Friday and bring it up for committee votes next week, House Democrats abandoned earlier money-raising proposals, including a payroll tax. They met behind closed doors Thursday to fine-tune the details.
Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said he expected to have a draft bill on Friday.
"The leadership's doing meetings with lots of members to hear their concerns, talk it through. But legislation doesn't come together until we actually start working on specific amendments on specific language and that's what we'll do next week," said the California Democrat.
The action in the House stood in contrast to the Senate, where Democrats edged away from their goal of passing health care legislation by early August amid heightening partisan controversy over tax increases and a proposed new government role in providing insurance to consumers.
As discussed in the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, the surtax would apply to individuals with adjusted gross income of more than $200,000 and couples over $250,000, according to officials involved in the discussion. Most spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks were private.
Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., a member of the panel, said the panel is looking at a surtax around 3.5 percent.
"The Haters" have already taken over the comments forum, but as I noted:
Lest we forget, during WWII, the highest wage-earners were taxed at nearly 90% to fund the war effort. Was it socialism then?
It all depends on what your priorities are as a society.
WASHINGTON—House Democrats working on President Barack Obama's goal of health legislation are narrowing in on an income tax surcharge on the highest-paid wage earners to help subsidize insurance for the 50 million people who lack it.
Pushing to complete a comprehensive health care overhaul plan by Friday and bring it up for committee votes next week, House Democrats abandoned earlier money-raising proposals, including a payroll tax. They met behind closed doors Thursday to fine-tune the details.
Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said he expected to have a draft bill on Friday.
"The leadership's doing meetings with lots of members to hear their concerns, talk it through. But legislation doesn't come together until we actually start working on specific amendments on specific language and that's what we'll do next week," said the California Democrat.
The action in the House stood in contrast to the Senate, where Democrats edged away from their goal of passing health care legislation by early August amid heightening partisan controversy over tax increases and a proposed new government role in providing insurance to consumers.
As discussed in the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, the surtax would apply to individuals with adjusted gross income of more than $200,000 and couples over $250,000, according to officials involved in the discussion. Most spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks were private.
Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., a member of the panel, said the panel is looking at a surtax around 3.5 percent.
"The Haters" have already taken over the comments forum, but as I noted:
Lest we forget, during WWII, the highest wage-earners were taxed at nearly 90% to fund the war effort. Was it socialism then?
It all depends on what your priorities are as a society.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 16:40:02
Raine on 07/09/2009 16:40:02
Watch out Barack!
The G8 first ladies were left shaken but not stirred after having a go on an earthquake simulator as they visited the devastated city of L'Aquila.
George Clooney was on hand for the Ladies...
The G8 first ladies were left shaken but not stirred after having a go on an earthquake simulator as they visited the devastated city of L'Aquila.
George Clooney was on hand for the Ladies...
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/09/2009 17:16:48
Will in Chicago on 07/09/2009 17:16:48
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent post, Raine!
Well, I wrapped up my online AZ Constitution course, so I will check on the grade in the next day or so to see if I need to take the final. (I went with the pass/fail option.)
If you know anyone else in Phoenix who is looking for work, Monster.com is having a big job fair in Scottsdale tomorrow morning. While it is not education, I will check it out.
Well, I wrapped up my online AZ Constitution course, so I will check on the grade in the next day or so to see if I need to take the final. (I went with the pass/fail option.)
If you know anyone else in Phoenix who is looking for work, Monster.com is having a big job fair in Scottsdale tomorrow morning. While it is not education, I will check it out.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:18:29
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:18:29
Oy the sinuses! Oy the throat! I didn't go to class today. :head throbs from sinus pressure:
But I am getting watch "Tokyo Gore Police." Netflix has it available for viewing online. Kind, so kind. This picture is mashed up bag of wrong turned up to 11! On steroids!
NOT WORK SAFE! EXTREME GORE!
But I am getting watch "Tokyo Gore Police." Netflix has it available for viewing online. Kind, so kind. This picture is mashed up bag of wrong turned up to 11! On steroids!
NOT WORK SAFE! EXTREME GORE!
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 17:30:03
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 17:30:03
euuuuggghghhghgh... I really don't like it when a client lies to me about their five-month old bills.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/09/2009 17:38:10
Will in Chicago on 07/09/2009 17:38:10
Several media sources are reporting that there are massive protests in Iran, with a strong response by the police.
I would urge people to check out the Iran Uprising Blogging (Thursday July 9) for many stories and videos.
Here is an excerpt from the Reuters story:
I would urge people to check out the Iran Uprising Blogging (Thursday July 9) for many stories and videos.
Here is an excerpt from the Reuters story:
Iranian police fire in air to disperse protesters
By Parisa Hafezi
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Riot police fired in the air to disperse pro-reform demonstrators in central Tehran on Thursday, nearly four weeks after a disputed election triggered mass protests across Iran, a witness said.
Police detained several people among hundreds of protesters who turned up near Tehran University in defiance of a ban on gatherings for the anniversary of violent student demonstrations in 1999, the witness told Reuters. Another witness said police also used tear gas.
It appeared to be the worst outbreak of unrest in Tehran since security forces last month quelled days of opposition protests over the June 12 election, which moderate opponents of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad say was rigged in his favor.
Even though Thursday's rally was a far cry from those that erupted after the vote, it was a sign of continuing discontent among at least some opposition supporters, who took part in the demonstration despite a heavy presence by the security forces.
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 17:44:20
...I'm a bit more than just a little bit sick from that...
Random on 07/09/2009 17:44:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oy the sinuses! Oy the throat! I didn't go to class today. :head throbs from sinus pressure:
But I am getting watch "Tokyo Gore Police." Netflix has it available for viewing online. Kind, so kind. This picture is mashed up bag of wrong turned up to 11! On steroids!
NOT WORK SAFE! EXTREME GORE!
...I'm a bit more than just a little bit sick from that...
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:57:03
Oh poor TNG worshiping baby.
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:57:03
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oy the sinuses! Oy the throat! I didn't go to class today. :head throbs from sinus pressure:
But I am getting watch "Tokyo Gore Police." Netflix has it available for viewing online. Kind, so kind. This picture is mashed up bag of wrong turned up to 11! On steroids!
NOT WORK SAFE! EXTREME GORE!
...I'm a bit more than just a little bit sick from that...
Oh poor TNG worshiping baby.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:58:31
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 17:58:31
I think I killed the blog with "Tokyo Gore Police!" I rule! 
:metal: :metal:
:metal: :metal:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:01:37
TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:01:37
Ah, Herr Mondo!
TriSec is obsessing (as he often does) over trip planning for a future vacation. (2 years off!)
Would you care to discuss the various merits of taking I-95 through the heart of Jacksonville vs. staying on the I-295 beltway, especially at the lunch hour?
TriSec is obsessing (as he often does) over trip planning for a future vacation. (2 years off!)
Would you care to discuss the various merits of taking I-95 through the heart of Jacksonville vs. staying on the I-295 beltway, especially at the lunch hour?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:04:54
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:04:54
Look I'm sick and freaking tired of these callers and pundits and all bitching cause we didn't turn into of fucking magical fairyland the minute or the first 6 months that Obama was elected. EVERY PERSON elected to the office of President GETS 4 YEARS, to try and shape the country for what they believe is the betterment of the people they serve.
Just because we don't have pixies to brush our teeth for us, or elves to bring us sweet tea on the the veranda, or a unicorn in every home does not mean the have reached fucking failure!
I, a democrat from the time of the first mock voting we did in elementary school, even gave Bush (both of them) the benefit of the doubt. I'm an AMerican its what I do. I trust that the people in charge have there shit together enough to make sure that our beautiful country isn't put in danger.
I'm sorry for the swearing but I'm really sick of people saying how disappointed they are cause they only see with single mindedness.
Just because we don't have pixies to brush our teeth for us, or elves to bring us sweet tea on the the veranda, or a unicorn in every home does not mean the have reached fucking failure!
I, a democrat from the time of the first mock voting we did in elementary school, even gave Bush (both of them) the benefit of the doubt. I'm an AMerican its what I do. I trust that the people in charge have there shit together enough to make sure that our beautiful country isn't put in danger.
I'm sorry for the swearing but I'm really sick of people saying how disappointed they are cause they only see with single mindedness.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:05:48
:spit:
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:05:48
Quote by Mondobubba:
I think I killed the blog with "Tokyo Gore Police!" I rule!
:spit:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:10:34
TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:10:34
Sorry, Mala. No Unicorn? Obama sucks.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:13:31
I'm still giving him 4 years, if I don't get at least a card for a unicorn IOU then he sucks ;)
wickedpam on 07/09/2009 18:13:31
Quote by TriSec:
Sorry, Mala. No Unicorn? Obama sucks.
I'm still giving him 4 years, if I don't get at least a card for a unicorn IOU then he sucks ;)
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:18:04
TriSec on 07/09/2009 18:18:04
That just goes to show you that it's easier to break a country than fix it. He was in office 8 years, but the country has been broken since September 12.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 18:18:53
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 18:18:53
Okay..gotta re-focus here! Ms. rude deadbeat customer kinda got my biscuits burnin' and now I can't concentrate. :wacko:
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 18:39:26
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 18:39:26
Agh.. I kicked the power button and lost a buncha work now! :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2009 18:41:11
livingonli on 07/09/2009 18:41:11
And time for me to head off to the salt mine to train another AD. I don't get to have as much fun blogging.
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2009 19:30:08
TriSec on 07/09/2009 19:30:08
I have just been informed that the local cable channel, WCAC, has sent me a registered letter that Mrs. TriSec had to sign for.
Debate? Interview? TV appearance?
(she didn't open it.)
Debate? Interview? TV appearance?
(she didn't open it.)
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 20:19:06
Random on 07/09/2009 20:19:06
Have fun poking away Mondo.
Random'll have his revenge.
Random'll have his revenge.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 20:46:01
Stay on the beltway, Sir. Even two years from now 95 will most likely be under construction. Better to avoid the aggrevation.
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 20:46:01
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, Herr Mondo!
TriSec is obsessing (as he often does) over trip planning for a future vacation. (2 years off!)
Would you care to discuss the various merits of taking I-95 through the heart of Jacksonville vs. staying on the I-295 beltway, especially at the lunch hour?
Stay on the beltway, Sir. Even two years from now 95 will most likely be under construction. Better to avoid the aggrevation.
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2009 21:19:47
livingonli on 07/09/2009 21:19:47
I think I just had my most recent ultimate geek-out. I was in a 1/2 hour conversation with two of my co-workers on Doctor Who.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2009 22:49:58
Raine on 07/09/2009 22:49:58
Caption it!
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2009 23:11:19
livingonli on 07/09/2009 23:11:19
Baby got back! 
Comment by Random on 07/09/2009 23:17:43
Random on 07/09/2009 23:17:43
that is a nice ass.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2009 23:33:55
Scoopster on 07/09/2009 23:33:55
WHOA.. The very house I live in has gone national.
Projo.com - RI Tea Party group kicked out & BANNED from Bristol Fourth of July Parade
Shit.. it's on Freeperville.
My landlord is the person who ran the Float Committee for this year's parade and is the person who threw this idiot out. He did it because they were handing out fliers (copies of the Constitution) from their float. In turn, this psycho bitch GAVE OUT HIS PHONE NUMBER IN A MASS EMAIL TO HER TEA PARTY PSYCHO FRIENDS and said she was kicked out for handing out copies of the Constitution. She also lied and said that another float was handing things out and they were not penalized.
He's been on phone patrol all day and all night, received non-stop calls from mindless GOOperatoms across the country including a veiled death threat from some retired General in South Carolina (who eventually turned around, apologized and said he would support the committee financially AND break all ties with the nutjob who runs RITP, has been defamed on two radio hosts in the state, and has been asked to give interviews on local television and radio.
Yikes. Good thing I'm goin' to visit my mom this weekend! I'm gonna make sure we lock the doors for now on too.
Projo.com - RI Tea Party group kicked out & BANNED from Bristol Fourth of July Parade
Shit.. it's on Freeperville.
My landlord is the person who ran the Float Committee for this year's parade and is the person who threw this idiot out. He did it because they were handing out fliers (copies of the Constitution) from their float. In turn, this psycho bitch GAVE OUT HIS PHONE NUMBER IN A MASS EMAIL TO HER TEA PARTY PSYCHO FRIENDS and said she was kicked out for handing out copies of the Constitution. She also lied and said that another float was handing things out and they were not penalized.
He's been on phone patrol all day and all night, received non-stop calls from mindless GOOperatoms across the country including a veiled death threat from some retired General in South Carolina (who eventually turned around, apologized and said he would support the committee financially AND break all ties with the nutjob who runs RITP, has been defamed on two radio hosts in the state, and has been asked to give interviews on local television and radio.
Yikes. Good thing I'm goin' to visit my mom this weekend! I'm gonna make sure we lock the doors for now on too.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 23:55:02
Sarcozy: Yeah, I tapped that, Mr President.
Mondobubba on 07/09/2009 23:55:02
Quote by Raine:
Caption it!
Sarcozy: Yeah, I tapped that, Mr President.
Comment by BobR on 07/10/2009 00:07:57
OBAMA: Oh yeahhhhh.....
SARKOZY: That's what I'm talking about!
BobR on 07/10/2009 00:07:57
Quote by Raine:
Caption it!
OBAMA: Oh yeahhhhh.....
SARKOZY: That's what I'm talking about!
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2009 00:27:29
Wow! that is scary!
Raine on 07/10/2009 00:27:29
Quote by Scoopster:
WHOA.. The very house I live in has gone national.
Projo.com - RI Tea Party group kicked out & BANNED from Bristol Fourth of July Parade
Shit.. it's on Freeperville.
My landlord is the person who ran the Float Committee for this year's parade and is the person who threw this idiot out. He did it because they were handing out fliers (copies of the Constitution) from their float. In turn, this psycho bitch GAVE OUT HIS PHONE NUMBER IN A MASS EMAIL TO HER TEA PARTY PSYCHO FRIENDS and said she was kicked out for handing out copies of the Constitution. She also lied and said that another float was handing things out and they were not penalized.
He's been on phone patrol all day and all night, received non-stop calls from mindless GOOperatoms across the country including a veiled death threat from some retired General in South Carolina (who eventually turned around, apologized and said he would support the committee financially AND break all ties with the nutjob who runs RITP, has been defamed on two radio hosts in the state, and has been asked to give interviews on local television and radio.
Yikes. Good thing I'm goin' to visit my mom this weekend! I'm gonna make sure we lock the doors for now on too.
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2009 00:37:21
Raine on 07/10/2009 00:37:21
WOw -- Watch it the WHOLE way thru....
You GO GIRL!!!
You GO GIRL!!!
Comment by Raine on 07/10/2009 02:12:07
Raine on 07/10/2009 02:12:07