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What would Jesus Do
Author: Raine
Date: 11/29/2007 13:23:13
I watched the debate last night, Wine and Nyquil and homeade chocolate chunk cookies make it all do able. I think Jesus would have had some wine and cookies with me.
I woke up this morning with a fresher set of eyes about what happened and what was said, and you know what? Nothing was said! Instead of addressing the serious questions, they all tried to out do each other, almost as if this race was between themselves, and not for the most important position a person can hold. It was mean, contentiuos and lacking substance.
There were some great questions. One of my faves was in regards to the Death penalty, and whether Jesus would have supported it. Huckabee, after not answering the question was cornered by Anderon Cooper about that finally said: Jesus was too smart to run for office".
Fred Thomson will only make a pledge to the American people in regards to taxes. (to which I ask, how about the United States of America there Fred, or maybe a pledge to uphold the Consitution?)They all barely touched on the economic agenda instead either saying that they would cut taxes or make a pledgee to Grover -- no one mentioned the deficit or how we got to 9 trillion dollars in debt. There was no economic plan at all. Everyone wanted to out untax each other.
Immigration was the big topic. HUGE. Some people had answers. Tancredo was happy to be out Tancredo'd. (How nice it must be to see people trying to look even more intolerant than you Tom...) Being a liberal type of person, I was not real fond of too many of them. I heard the word Sanctuary City, a rather new word for me in this lexicon of catch phrases. (perhaps that should be added to the debate drinking games!) And Rudy took a beating for this issue, saying that NYC was not, and that under certain circumstances, which he laid out, undocumented immigrants were reported to the federal government. I don't think the undocumented immigrants of NYC would say they felt any sanctuary under the Giuliani...
When the issue of hiring undocumented immigrants came up, Rudy said Mitt should better vet his employees I got a nice chuckle out of that one. (hello pot, meet Bernie Kettle)
I must say I was rather disgusted by Mitt Romney's response to a wonderful question regarding "Black -on-Black" Crime. And the question was great. A father and a son from Atlanta, Georgia wanted to know what the candidates would do about it because, as the child said 'it feels like the Taliban is right outside my door'. Mitt, he dropped the ball big time, instead saying how nice it was to see a man with his son. We heard nothing from the candidates about what they would do to help the people in THIS country. Mitt's answer was simply to say that we need to stop single parenthood. This was an opening to talk about crime in our nation, as well as the racial tensions that exist. This was a chance to talk about civil rights, a chance to address people of color.
McCain and Romney argued about torture. And I must say McCain came out looking alright. Mitt, well, he would say if Waterboarding is torture, he only said that he would listen to Cofer Black and what his recommendations on torture would be. I was surprised he mentioned Cofer's name at all. But Mitt is glad that Gitmo is still opened and he doesn't want *those* people in OUR justice sytsem. How very constitutional of you Mitt.
The rest was very typical fear mongering and 911™ branding. Ron Paul said he would like to get rid of the department of education, among other things, when asked. Most people wanted to cut SS or over haul, but in all reality no one knew what programs they would cut. (once again no economic plans there) It was brutal, it was mean and it was a rather depressing look at the upcoming election cycle. I found myself missing Bob Dole last night, dammit!
2 important things to note: Fred didn't fall asleep. although he was caught fidgeting. Mitt seems to have dyed his hair again...
Alrighty then..... Fair Coffee and Tea are over at the caffeine bar. Fresh Bagels have been brought in from Murray's in NYC. Donuts are from Tim Horton's today.... I will see you inside.
I woke up this morning with a fresher set of eyes about what happened and what was said, and you know what? Nothing was said! Instead of addressing the serious questions, they all tried to out do each other, almost as if this race was between themselves, and not for the most important position a person can hold. It was mean, contentiuos and lacking substance.
There were some great questions. One of my faves was in regards to the Death penalty, and whether Jesus would have supported it. Huckabee, after not answering the question was cornered by Anderon Cooper about that finally said: Jesus was too smart to run for office".
Fred Thomson will only make a pledge to the American people in regards to taxes. (to which I ask, how about the United States of America there Fred, or maybe a pledge to uphold the Consitution?)They all barely touched on the economic agenda instead either saying that they would cut taxes or make a pledgee to Grover -- no one mentioned the deficit or how we got to 9 trillion dollars in debt. There was no economic plan at all. Everyone wanted to out untax each other.
Immigration was the big topic. HUGE. Some people had answers. Tancredo was happy to be out Tancredo'd. (How nice it must be to see people trying to look even more intolerant than you Tom...) Being a liberal type of person, I was not real fond of too many of them. I heard the word Sanctuary City, a rather new word for me in this lexicon of catch phrases. (perhaps that should be added to the debate drinking games!) And Rudy took a beating for this issue, saying that NYC was not, and that under certain circumstances, which he laid out, undocumented immigrants were reported to the federal government. I don't think the undocumented immigrants of NYC would say they felt any sanctuary under the Giuliani...
When the issue of hiring undocumented immigrants came up, Rudy said Mitt should better vet his employees I got a nice chuckle out of that one. (hello pot, meet Bernie Kettle)
I must say I was rather disgusted by Mitt Romney's response to a wonderful question regarding "Black -on-Black" Crime. And the question was great. A father and a son from Atlanta, Georgia wanted to know what the candidates would do about it because, as the child said 'it feels like the Taliban is right outside my door'. Mitt, he dropped the ball big time, instead saying how nice it was to see a man with his son. We heard nothing from the candidates about what they would do to help the people in THIS country. Mitt's answer was simply to say that we need to stop single parenthood. This was an opening to talk about crime in our nation, as well as the racial tensions that exist. This was a chance to talk about civil rights, a chance to address people of color.
McCain and Romney argued about torture. And I must say McCain came out looking alright. Mitt, well, he would say if Waterboarding is torture, he only said that he would listen to Cofer Black and what his recommendations on torture would be. I was surprised he mentioned Cofer's name at all. But Mitt is glad that Gitmo is still opened and he doesn't want *those* people in OUR justice sytsem. How very constitutional of you Mitt.
The rest was very typical fear mongering and 911™ branding. Ron Paul said he would like to get rid of the department of education, among other things, when asked. Most people wanted to cut SS or over haul, but in all reality no one knew what programs they would cut. (once again no economic plans there) It was brutal, it was mean and it was a rather depressing look at the upcoming election cycle. I found myself missing Bob Dole last night, dammit!
2 important things to note: Fred didn't fall asleep. although he was caught fidgeting. Mitt seems to have dyed his hair again...
Alrighty then..... Fair Coffee and Tea are over at the caffeine bar. Fresh Bagels have been brought in from Murray's in NYC. Donuts are from Tim Horton's today.... I will see you inside.
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Comment by 
Raine on 11/29/2007 13:35:49
Raine on 11/29/2007 13:35:49
Rudy is in HOT water.
They asked him about this last night and he denied it all... Should be interesting to watch!
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:11:40
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:11:40
:rofl: Neil Boortz. Pride of the south...
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:12:32
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:12:32
The tide is turning?!?!?!
Comment by 
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:13:47
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:13:47
I found it interesting that Mitt thought Roe V. Wade would be the biggest issue on his agenda.
:star: --------> Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..........wha wha what?
:star: --------> Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..........wha wha what?
Comment by 
BobR on 11/29/2007 14:15:30
BobR on 11/29/2007 14:15:30
FOR EVERYONE NOT ABLE TO LOGIN:
Please click on "Change Password" and set your password again.
Please click on "Change Password" and set your password again.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:19:34
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:19:34
I think I am all by myself this morning.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:21:56
You know, they are still trying to make abortion an issue... it cracks me up that Mitt said he was wrong before he was right about the issue.
I was for it before I was against it!
:rolleyes:
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:21:56
Quote by starling310: I found it interesting that Mitt thought Roe V. Wade would be the biggest issue on his agenda. :star: --------> Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..........wha wha what?
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:24:52
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:24:52
Good morning everyone. 
Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.
Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:31:31
WOWZER! Wayne Barret has always had the goods on Rudy. I hope you are gonna post this one Liv.
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:31:31
Quote by livingonli: Good morning everyone.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:32:17
Raine on 11/29/2007 14:32:17
Great... 4$ dollars a gallon. snap just like that. I was reading the 3 of 4 pipe fires are now out.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:34:32
Did you read his book on Rudy and the whole 9-11 crap? Since it did have all the stuff about the radios, the command center in 7 WTC, and how he has been using 9-11 to make a ton of money.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:34:32
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: Good morning everyone.
Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.
WOWZER! Wayne Barret has always had the goods on Rudy. I hope you are gonna post this one Liv.
Did you read his book on Rudy and the whole 9-11 crap? Since it did have all the stuff about the radios, the command center in 7 WTC, and how he has been using 9-11 to make a ton of money.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:39:59
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:39:59
Shelagh! 
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:41:18
TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:41:18
Hi folks...finally made it in after some password problems.
This one's for Bob:
This one's for Bob:
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:44:37
TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:44:37
Gas across the street is still $2.99 for regular. Hitest is $3.21, and diesel is $3.45
Most of our local product comes from the big Irving refineries in St. John, NB via barge.
Most of our local product comes from the big Irving refineries in St. John, NB via barge.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:44:42
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:44:42
Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:50:42
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:50:42
I would call Guilani a scumbag.
Mgm with the Dennis Miller joke generator.
Mgm with the Dennis Miller joke generator.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:03
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:03
Saying "The Troops" is their Freebird!
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:33
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:33
MGM is Chris in Yankton?
NICE!
:clap:
NICE!
:clap:
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:55:56
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:55:56
Momma 
and I with the mindmeld. 
and I with the mindmeld.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:56:29
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:56:29
Exactly....every ? was about guns or abortion.
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:57:36
TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:57:36
AthenaHealth in the news!
And a photo of the first cousin:
I talked to the reporters yesterday too, but they didn't use any of my material in the story.
And a photo of the first cousin:
I talked to the reporters yesterday too, but they didn't use any of my material in the story.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:57:46
What about trying to lock up/deport all those brown immigants.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:57:46
Quote by starling310: Exactly....every ? was about guns or abortion.
What about trying to lock up/deport all those brown immigants.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:59:26
starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:59:26
You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too.
Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy.
:thud:
Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy.
:thud:
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:01:17
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:01:17
Headline News is re-running the Republican debate from last night
:waits for the Mitt/Rudy catfight:
:waits for the Mitt/Rudy catfight:
Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:02:57
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:02:57
Morning! :hug:
Yeah I was able to login normal! Good Work!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I was able to login normal! Good Work!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:04:03
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:04:03
HAd a little internet burp. I hate when that happens.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:07:23
that pissed me off to know end!
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:07:23
Quote by starling310: You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too. Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy. :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:07:55
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:07:55
Good morning Mala.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:09:29
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:09:29
Heyya Liv and all!
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:11:08
well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:11:08
Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:11:20
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:11:20
amoreto 
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:15:27
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:15:27
The 3rd(?) Annual Blogger Joe!!!!!!
BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa)
It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP!
If you would like to participate just...
1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.).
2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift.
3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift.
4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24.
5) Enjoy and have fun!
BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa)
It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP!
If you would like to participate just...
1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.).
2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift.
3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift.
4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24.
5) Enjoy and have fun!
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:15:40
I'm sure he did a heckuva job with something.
Either that, or he has a really wide stance.
TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:15:40
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.
well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?
I'm sure he did a heckuva job with something.
Either that, or he has a really wide stance.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:17:01
Probably for trying to impeach Bill Clinton while carrying on his own extra maritial affair. Then again Newt Gingrich could also win for that.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:17:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.
well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?
Probably for trying to impeach Bill Clinton while carrying on his own extra maritial affair. Then again Newt Gingrich could also win for that.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:18:52
Ms Mala... Might I suggest that you also make this a spearate Blog entry? It is entirely up to you, but then it would not get lost in rthe shuffle! :peace:
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:18:52
Quote by wickedpam: The 3rd(?) Annual Blogger Joe!!!!!! BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa) It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP! If you would like to participate just... 1) Email me (snotra@comtekmail.com) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.). 2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift. 3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift. 4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24. 5) Enjoy and have fun!
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:19:08
TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:19:08
Re: Blogger Joe...
WP, do you have the power? Why not create a blog entry for this?
WP, do you have the power? Why not create a blog entry for this?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:20:59
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:20:59
Good Idea you two! I totally forgot I can do that!
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:21:58
TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:21:58
on TRMS...
Why the hell are corporate entities sponsoring the debates?
Anyone?
Why the hell are corporate entities sponsoring the debates?
Anyone?
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:21:59
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:21:59
The PRess release for Hyde's medal said:
I am sure MRs. Snodgrass would agree.... 
"A veteran, a lawyer, and a public servant, Henry Hyde has served his country with honor and dedication. During his 32-year career in the House of Representatives, he was a powerful defender of life, a leading advocate for a strong national defense, and an unwavering voice for liberty, democracy, and free enterprise around the world. A true gentleman of the House, he advanced his principles without rancor and earned the respect of friends and adversaries alike. The United States honors Henry Hyde for his distinguished record of service to America."
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:23:28
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:23:28
Tri and myself with the mindmeld... :foil:
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:24:21
TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:24:21
So when my house catches fire, do I succumb, Branch-Davidian style, or let the firemen in without a warrant?
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:28:11
Oh. Me too! Totally.
And, being the Anal Literal thinker that I am; I was thinking "Hm. I only saw a dad in that video. Could be, he was a single Dad. Is that okay Mitt? As long as it isn't a single Mom, or a *gasp* GAY COUPLE???" : drama sting :
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:28:11
Quote by Raine:that pissed me off to know end!Quote by starling310: You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too.
Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy.
:thud:
Oh. Me too! Totally.
And, being the Anal Literal thinker that I am; I was thinking "Hm. I only saw a dad in that video. Could be, he was a single Dad. Is that okay Mitt? As long as it isn't a single Mom, or a *gasp* GAY COUPLE???" : drama sting :
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:28:16
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:28:16
I think I am gonna go back to sleep after the show. I still feel pretty sick.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:29:16
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:29:16
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:31:25
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:31:25
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:31:53
It's Wabbit Season.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:31:53
Quote by Raine:
It's Wabbit Season.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:34:35
WEll that was the most interesting thing about that clip. Mitt assumed an awful lot about things... and the reality is, the question itself was a great one. When a kid says he feels like the Taliban is outside his door, doncha thinkl we have a real problem here in america?
What a maroon.
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:34:35
Quote by starling310:Oh. Me too! Totally. And, being the Anal Literal thinker that I am; I was thinking "Hm. I only saw a dad in that video. Could be, he was a single Dad. Is that okay Mitt? As long as it isn't a single Mom, or a *gasp* GAY COUPLE???" : drama sting :Quote by Raine:that pissed me off to know end!Quote by starling310: You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too. Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy. :thud:
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:40:06
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:40:06
Rudy must be stopped.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:41:24
I said that to my girlfriend...."Wow. He is being presumptuous."
And, really what could he say at that point. They had just spent 10 minutes talking about arming everyone in America to the teeth. That would have been in instant Karma Flip Flop!
So, he redirected and reminded everyone that the enemies are single moms, gay people, and women seeking abortions.
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:41:24
Quote by Raine: WEll that was the most interesting thing about that clip. Mitt assumed an awful lot about things... and the reality is, the question itself was a great one. When a kid says he feels like the Taliban is outside his door, doncha thinkl we have a real problem here in america?
What a maroon.
I said that to my girlfriend...."Wow. He is being presumptuous."
And, really what could he say at that point. They had just spent 10 minutes talking about arming everyone in America to the teeth. That would have been in instant Karma Flip Flop!
So, he redirected and reminded everyone that the enemies are single moms, gay people, and women seeking abortions.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:49:31
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:49:31
THOM!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:49:39
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:49:39
Thom!
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:49:48
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:49:48
Thom Hartmann teaming up with Momma.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:50:03
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:50:03
THOM! :wub2:
:wub2:
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:50:37
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:50:37
I just got all 17 year old girl when Momma said Thom was there.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:51:51
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:51:51
Truthfully, I went thru a lot of the videos submitted and I did not see any about healthcare... And trust me, I did look.
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:53:22
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:53:22
I wonder if Jim pulls Thom aside when he's there. 
Psst. Listen Thom. I stopped drinking now and I can't take working for a slag who french kisses her dogs anymore. You have any need for a voice deity in your studio?"
Psst. Listen Thom. I stopped drinking now and I can't take working for a slag who french kisses her dogs anymore. You have any need for a voice deity in your studio?"
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:54:15
I posted the Voice article on the MB.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:54:15
Quote by Raine: Rudy must be stopped.
I posted the Voice article on the MB.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:55:37
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:55:37
Am I the only one whofinds the fact that going after Obama as tho he were a muslim just hateful?
Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:56:52
Aw Raine. you're cute. like a kid on christmas morning.
starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:56:52
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one whofinds the fact that going after Obama as tho he were a muslim just hateful?
Aw Raine. you're cute. like a kid on christmas morning.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:57:16
:rofl:
Raine on 11/29/2007 15:57:16
Quote by starling310: I wonder if Jim pulls Thom aside when he's there.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:57:18
No. I do too.
Now when did they start interrupting the debates with commercial breaks? I thought debates were supposed to be commercial-free.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:57:18
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one whofinds the fact that going after Obama as tho he were a muslim just hateful?
No. I do too.
Now when did they start interrupting the debates with commercial breaks? I thought debates were supposed to be commercial-free.
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:00:19
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:00:19
morning, folks... :coffee:
back at the office today... I haven't been here since Tues of last week.
back at the office today... I haven't been here since Tues of last week.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 16:01:04
Raine on 11/29/2007 16:01:04
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:04:02
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:04:02
BTW, Edwards and Naomi Klein are supposed to be on Countdown tonight.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:06:29
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:06:29
So, under the Second Amendment, do I have the right to an anti-tank missile or even a tank? How about a nuclear weapon in case I have to protect myself from the guvinment? 
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:08:03
Wow! I so badly want Edwards to be the nom it hurts!
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:08:03
Quote by Raine:
IT is only 35 seconds. But Edwards needs to be the man.
Wow! I so badly want Edwards to be the nom it hurts!
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:08:40
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:08:40
If I was home, I would have been glad I don't have the HD set hooked up yet.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:10:41
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:10:41
Okay that was me on AAP! 
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:11:03
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:11:03
:yawn: I wanna go to shweep... but I really want to listen to the show!
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:11:38
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:11:38
How much does Mitt's hair gel stand out in HD?
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:11:44
TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:11:44
Here's the story about those firefighters that I made the cryptic comment about somewheres below...
Homeland security turns firefighters into 'domestic spies'
Homeland security turns firefighters into 'domestic spies'
A year ago, Homeland Security gave security clearances to nine New York City fire chiefs and began sharing intelligence with them. Even before that, fire department personnel were being taught how "to identify material or behavior that may indicate terrorist activities" and were also "told to be alert for a person who is hostile, uncooperative or expressing hate or discontent with the United States." [So shut down this website before you let the firemen in. - TriSec]
Unlike law enforcement officials, firemen can go onto private property without a warrant, not only while fighting fires but also for inspections. "It's the evolution of the fire service," said a Phoenix, AZ fire chief of his information-sharing arrangement with law enforcement.
Keith Olbermann turned to Mike German, a former FBI agent who is now with the ACLU, for insight on the potential threats to civil liberties raised by what the program asks firefighters to do. "This program seems to be turning them, essentially, into legally protected domestic spies, does it not?" Olbermann asked.
"That's the entire intent," German replied, noting that the program raises serious legal issues.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:12:45
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:12:45
Only 49 minutes to go then anyone who needs to sleep can do so.
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:13:30
I do?...
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:13:30
Quote by BobR:I wanna go to shweep... but I really want to listen to the show!
I do?...
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:17:55
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:17:55
I watched all of the Fame show and I have no clue what Steph is talking about. Was it Bruno or Danny?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:20:06
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:20:06
God uses a notebook :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:20:09
:rofl: I did it again!
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:20:09
Quote by BobR:
I do?...
:rofl: I did it again!
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 16:21:41
yay!
Raine on 11/29/2007 16:21:41
Quote by wickedpam: Okay that was me on AAP!
yay!
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 16:24:10
It's illegal search and siezure. Unless firemen have been trained as law enforcment personall they cannot do thhis.
Raine on 11/29/2007 16:24:10
Quote by TriSec: Here's the story about those firefighters that I made the cryptic comment about somewheres below...
Homeland security turns firefighters into 'domestic spies'A year ago, Homeland Security gave security clearances to nine New York City fire chiefs and began sharing intelligence with them. Even before that, fire department personnel were being taught how "to identify material or behavior that may indicate terrorist activities" and were also "told to be alert for a person who is hostile, uncooperative or expressing hate or discontent with the United States." [So shut down this website before you let the firemen in. - TriSec]
Unlike law enforcement officials, firemen can go onto private property without a warrant, not only while fighting fires but also for inspections. "It's the evolution of the fire service," said a Phoenix, AZ fire chief of his information-sharing arrangement with law enforcement.
Keith Olbermann turned to Mike German, a former FBI agent who is now with the ACLU, for insight on the potential threats to civil liberties raised by what the program asks firefighters to do. "This program seems to be turning them, essentially, into legally protected domestic spies, does it not?" Olbermann asked.
"That's the entire intent," German replied, noting that the program raises serious legal issues.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/29/2007 16:25:53
Mondobubba on 11/29/2007 16:25:53
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 16:33:44
Raine on 11/29/2007 16:33:44
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:35:47
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 16:35:47
And I was thinking I couldn't hate that song more.
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:36:13
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:36:13
I saw that on KO - OMG, it IS worse with the video...
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:38:38
Ha - I recognized him immediately.
That's a good choice - he was always politically active...
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:38:38
Quote by Mondobubba: The New Australian Mister of the Environment, The Hon Peter Garrett
Ha - I recognized him immediately.
That's a good choice - he was always politically active...
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 16:40:32
BobR on 11/29/2007 16:40:32
Did Jim just say "Palistinia"??
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:52:01
TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:52:01
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:54:30
Someone needs a
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:54:30
Quote by TriSec:
Someone needs a
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:54:51
TriSec on 11/29/2007 16:54:51
Grey winter hanging
over me like clouds of doom
see the new year come.
over me like clouds of doom
see the new year come.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:58:29
livingonli on 11/29/2007 16:58:29
Daffy Duck as Rudy Guilaini.
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 17:16:43
TriSec on 11/29/2007 17:16:43
Messing around with the sloganizer again...
«The ideal Romney.»
«Rudy, it's as simple as that!»
«Ron Paul on the outside, tasty on the inside.»
«Feel good with Hilary.»
«There's a bit of Obama in all of us.»
«Make yourself at home with NH Primary.»
«Thanks Four Freedoms.»
and....
«George W. Bush is back.»
«The ideal Romney.»
«Rudy, it's as simple as that!»
«Ron Paul on the outside, tasty on the inside.»
«Feel good with Hilary.»
«There's a bit of Obama in all of us.»
«Make yourself at home with NH Primary.»
«Thanks Four Freedoms.»
and....
«George W. Bush is back.»
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 17:19:43
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 17:19:43
off to run errands back later gators!
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 17:21:11
livingonli on 11/29/2007 17:21:11
I got, < I lost weight with Dick Cheney>
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 17:57:19
BobR on 11/29/2007 17:57:19
lunch awaits me, indeed. 
be back later...
be back later...
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 18:03:08
TriSec on 11/29/2007 18:03:08
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 19:14:48
manUnkind...
BobR on 11/29/2007 19:14:48
Quote by TriSec: Ah, mankind.
Some days I wonder if the world would be better off without us.
manUnkind...
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 19:16:51
«Share moments, share Kucinich.»
:coffee2:
BobR on 11/29/2007 19:16:51
Quote by TriSec: Messing around with the sloganizer again...
«The ideal Romney.»
«Rudy, it's as simple as that!»
«Ron Paul on the outside, tasty on the inside.»
«Feel good with Hilary.»
«There's a bit of Obama in all of us.»
«Make yourself at home with NH Primary.»
«Thanks Four Freedoms.»
and....
«George W. Bush is back.»
«Share moments, share Kucinich.»
:coffee2:
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 19:27:58
«Let's EDWARDS!»
«EDWARDS, where success is at home.»
«GORE is better than chocolate.»
«GORE for a professional image.»
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 19:27:58
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec: Messing around with the sloganizer again...
«The ideal Romney.»
«Rudy, it's as simple as that!»
«Ron Paul on the outside, tasty on the inside.»
«Feel good with Hilary.»
«There's a bit of Obama in all of us.»
«Make yourself at home with NH Primary.»
«Thanks Four Freedoms.»
and....
«George W. Bush is back.»
«Share moments, share Kucinich.»
:coffee2:
«Let's EDWARDS!»
«EDWARDS, where success is at home.»
«GORE is better than chocolate.»
«GORE for a professional image.»
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 20:02:41
livingonli on 11/29/2007 20:02:41
Time for me to head off to the salt mine.
Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 20:52:50
Well, that's that.
TriSec on 11/29/2007 20:52:50
Well, that's that.
Comment by velveeta jones on 11/29/2007 20:58:53
velveeta jones on 11/29/2007 20:58:53
sorry I'm late getting on line today.
Last night I dreamed I was trapped in Mitts hair helmet. I was screaming for help and going from hard hair bar to hard hair bar searching for an opening, all in vain. I found some other lost souls that had been trapped for quite awhile and made a rudimentary home as best they could. They invited me to stay and get warm by the hair gel fire.
Last night I dreamed I was trapped in Mitts hair helmet. I was screaming for help and going from hard hair bar to hard hair bar searching for an opening, all in vain. I found some other lost souls that had been trapped for quite awhile and made a rudimentary home as best they could. They invited me to stay and get warm by the hair gel fire.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/29/2007 21:39:06
:Dieter: I find that disturbing, yet compeling. :kraftwerk: NOW IS THE TIME ON SPROCKETS VEN WE DANCE!
Mondobubba on 11/29/2007 21:39:06
Quote by velveeta jones: sorry I'm late getting on line today.
Last night I dreamed I was trapped in Mitts hair helmet. I was screaming for help and going from hard hair bar to hard hair bar searching for an opening, all in vain. I found some other lost souls that had been trapped for quite awhile and made a rudimentary home as best they could. They invited me to stay and get warm by the hair gel fire.
:Dieter: I find that disturbing, yet compeling. :kraftwerk: NOW IS THE TIME ON SPROCKETS VEN WE DANCE!
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 21:46:19
livingonli on 11/29/2007 21:46:19
I am glad I didn't watch the debate. I probably would have had a nightmare where I would have been chased by Rudy Guiiani with a plunger.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 22:10:47
livingonli on 11/29/2007 22:10:47
Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 22:13:23
wickedpam on 11/29/2007 22:13:23
just a drive by but does Randi's story about Fireman remind anyone but me of Farenheit 451?
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 22:19:26
Keith Olbermann said it last night on his show, so you are not alone. He did a whole segment on it.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 22:19:26
Quote by wickedpam: just a drive by but does Randi's story about Fireman remind anyone but me of Farenheit 451?
Keith Olbermann said it last night on his show, so you are not alone. He did a whole segment on it.
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 22:40:42
Raine on 11/29/2007 22:40:42
ugh. This time I do not blame randi for yelling at the tool. I do however find it more grating than usual. My head is till pounding from the cold.
Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 22:42:10
Note that he's a Democrat...
EDIT: Although a lawyer, not a politician...
BobR on 11/29/2007 22:42:10
Quote by livingonli: Trent Lott's Brothe-in-Lawr indicted on Bribery charges.
Note that he's a Democrat...
EDIT: Although a lawyer, not a politician...
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 22:55:44
Fireman's and EMT's... This is crazy shit.
Raine on 11/29/2007 22:55:44
Quote by livingonli:Keith Olbermann said it last night on his show, so you are not alone. He did a whole segment on it.Quote by wickedpam: just a drive by but does Randi's story about Fireman remind anyone but me of Farenheit 451?
Comment by velveeta jones on 11/29/2007 23:03:10
velveeta jones on 11/29/2007 23:03:10
Off topic:
Wasn't someone looking for a dj emoticon? Found one:
Wasn't someone looking for a dj emoticon? Found one:
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 23:24:32
That's a neat one.
livingonli on 11/29/2007 23:24:32
Quote by velveeta jones: Off topic:
Wasn't someone looking for a dj emoticon? Found one:
That's a neat one.
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 23:38:49
livingonli on 11/29/2007 23:38:49
Tonight I have the Islanders-Rangers game from MSG in HD.
Knicks are playing the Celtics on TNT tonight if you want to catch the game, Raine.
Knicks are playing the Celtics on TNT tonight if you want to catch the game, Raine.
Comment by TriSec on 11/30/2007 00:27:29
TriSec on 11/30/2007 00:27:29
I used to bleed green up here, Livin....
Lar-REE!
Lar-REE!
Lar-REE!
Lar-REE!
Lar-REE!
Lar-REE!
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 00:39:11
livingonli on 11/30/2007 00:39:11
Interesting with the Canadian flag there.. I guess that was for hockey.
I'm just wondering how badly the Knicks are gonna lose.
I'm just wondering how badly the Knicks are gonna lose.
Comment by TriSec on 11/30/2007 01:58:59
TriSec on 11/30/2007 01:58:59
Hmm, that game looks like it's in Boston....
So why are the Knicks wearing their home whites?
So why are the Knicks wearing their home whites?
Comment by TriSec on 11/30/2007 02:11:42
TriSec on 11/30/2007 02:11:42
And now thanks to the magic of the internets, I think my Xmas shopping is done!
There's some trinkets yet to buy, but the big-ticket items are bought and some have already arrived on my doorstep.
And I haven't been near a mall yet.
<-- Christmas Carols
There's some trinkets yet to buy, but the big-ticket items are bought and some have already arrived on my doorstep.
And I haven't been near a mall yet.
<-- Christmas Carols
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2007 02:30:35
Raine on 11/30/2007 02:30:35
:yawn: This is good news indeed trisec! The internets are a wonderful thing.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:30:37
livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:30:37
Rangers beat the Islanders 4-2.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2007 02:33:00
muy coolio!
Raine on 11/30/2007 02:33:00
Quote by velveeta jones: Off topic:
Wasn't someone looking for a dj emoticon? Found one:
muy coolio!
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:42:54
livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:42:54
I did my store stuff this week. Except for food, I will pretty much be shopping on the internets until the end of the year.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:45:00
livingonli on 11/30/2007 02:45:00
This was the DJ one I was thinking of, but it is too big to fit into the box.
Comment by TriSec on 11/30/2007 02:59:14
TriSec on 11/30/2007 02:59:14
Well, the Celtics are up by about a million points. I'm going to head upstairs and read a bit.
G'nite.
G'nite.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 03:02:59
livingonli on 11/30/2007 03:02:59
Good nite Tri. Pleasant dreams.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 03:10:17
livingonli on 11/30/2007 03:10:17
This one's for Tri.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2007 04:11:53
livingonli on 11/30/2007 04:11:53
How badly do the Knicks suck? Let me count the ways.