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The Addiction
Author: BobR
Date: 09/25/2009 12:30:29
Addiction is an awful thing. Whether addicted to drugs, or whether one is an "adrenaline junky", there's nothing one will stop at to get that next fix. The other aspect of the addiction is the contradictory problems of always trying to recapture that first time, and the reality that each time it takes a little more just to get to the same level as before. The body adjusts and works against the craving. This is why adrenaline junkies take on bigger risks. In my opinion, Glenn Beck is addicted to fame.
He is certainly an admitted addict. He has battled booze and drugs and is in recovery for those. Like a lot of addicts though, they simply replace their completely destructive addiction with one less so (or more socially acceptable) like coffee or cigarettes. In Beck's case, however, I feel he has replaced it with the rush he gets from fame. It matters not whether it is favorable or critical, he just craves the attention, and he'll do whatever it takes to get it in bigger doses.
After several unsuccessful stints in radio doing the zany zoo crew thing, he found his voice in political talk. After six years on the radio, he found his way onto TV via CNN (thanks CNN
). Two years later, he jumped ship for FOX.
For Beck, this must have been akin to the junky walking into the heroin factory. The atmosphere there seems to reward feeding one's id, and so it has been with Beck. He's applied the outrageous "stunts" behavior of a morning zoo crew to the very serious discussion of politics, with ever increasing offensiveness:
His ratings have been stellar, so there's definitely an audience for it (there was an audience for Jerry Springer too - perhaps the same audience). However, his comment about President Obama was a little too over the top; his advertisers have been jumping ship like rats as the boat goes down. Color of Change has been at the forefront of pushing the advertising boycott, and have done very well at it. According to their website, 62 advertisers have pulled out of his show.
In the TV/Radio business, rating are key because ratings translate to money. However, if the ratings don't translate to money, then there is a problem for FOX. They can keep propping him up and hope the controversy fades, or they can drop him. In the story of the goose that lays the golden egg, the family got greedy and cut open the goose. In this case, FOX's golden egg layer eviscerated himself.
For junkies, it usually requires that they "hit bottom" before the actually get help. With the advertising boycott, the outrage over the frog incident, and the recent murder of a census worker after Beck's conflating the census and ACORN and painting both with the brush of fear, one can only hope that bottom is fast approaching.
Then it will be time for Beck to admit he has a problem. That's always the first step.
EDIT: Apparently, the YouTube that everyone's seen was edited to remove Beck's final comment that the frog was fake. Here's a video segment that shows what happened (note: it's Beck explaining what happened, so steel yourselves). I find it irritating that someone would purposely misrepresent what actually happened in this way. It does not help us.
That said - I think the fact that he pulled this stunt in the first place knowing full well it would create a ruckus does not change the conclusions I drew in today's blog.
He is certainly an admitted addict. He has battled booze and drugs and is in recovery for those. Like a lot of addicts though, they simply replace their completely destructive addiction with one less so (or more socially acceptable) like coffee or cigarettes. In Beck's case, however, I feel he has replaced it with the rush he gets from fame. It matters not whether it is favorable or critical, he just craves the attention, and he'll do whatever it takes to get it in bigger doses.
After several unsuccessful stints in radio doing the zany zoo crew thing, he found his voice in political talk. After six years on the radio, he found his way onto TV via CNN (thanks CNN
). Two years later, he jumped ship for FOX.For Beck, this must have been akin to the junky walking into the heroin factory. The atmosphere there seems to reward feeding one's id, and so it has been with Beck. He's applied the outrageous "stunts" behavior of a morning zoo crew to the very serious discussion of politics, with ever increasing offensiveness:
- Asking Muslim congressman-elect Keith Ellison, a guest on his show, to "prove to me that you are not working with our enemies..."
- Saying about President Obama: "This guy is - I believe - a racist"
- Tossing a live frog into boiling water.
His ratings have been stellar, so there's definitely an audience for it (there was an audience for Jerry Springer too - perhaps the same audience). However, his comment about President Obama was a little too over the top; his advertisers have been jumping ship like rats as the boat goes down. Color of Change has been at the forefront of pushing the advertising boycott, and have done very well at it. According to their website, 62 advertisers have pulled out of his show.
In the TV/Radio business, rating are key because ratings translate to money. However, if the ratings don't translate to money, then there is a problem for FOX. They can keep propping him up and hope the controversy fades, or they can drop him. In the story of the goose that lays the golden egg, the family got greedy and cut open the goose. In this case, FOX's golden egg layer eviscerated himself.
For junkies, it usually requires that they "hit bottom" before the actually get help. With the advertising boycott, the outrage over the frog incident, and the recent murder of a census worker after Beck's conflating the census and ACORN and painting both with the brush of fear, one can only hope that bottom is fast approaching.
Then it will be time for Beck to admit he has a problem. That's always the first step.
EDIT: Apparently, the YouTube that everyone's seen was edited to remove Beck's final comment that the frog was fake. Here's a video segment that shows what happened (note: it's Beck explaining what happened, so steel yourselves). I find it irritating that someone would purposely misrepresent what actually happened in this way. It does not help us.
That said - I think the fact that he pulled this stunt in the first place knowing full well it would create a ruckus does not change the conclusions I drew in today's blog.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/25/2009 12:45:26
wickedpam on 09/25/2009 12:45:26
Morning 
I can totally see Beck as a famewhore but I think there's something else there too, I just don't know what to call it. Almost like he's a media angel of death or something.
I can totally see Beck as a famewhore but I think there's something else there too, I just don't know what to call it. Almost like he's a media angel of death or something.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 13:24:00
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 13:24:00
Morning all & Happy Fridee! 
Just saw this hit the news wire.. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg hospitalized
Just saw this hit the news wire.. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg hospitalized
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/25/2009 13:27:10
TriSec on 09/25/2009 13:27:10
Morning folks!
Say, since they got all riled up over the President swatting a fly, has PETA issued a statement about the boiled frog?
Say, since they got all riled up over the President swatting a fly, has PETA issued a statement about the boiled frog?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/25/2009 13:30:17
This has to be a stunt.. are we sure it wasn't just cool water with some dry ice in it?
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 13:30:17
Quote by TriSec:
Morning folks!
Say, since they got all riled up over the President swatting a fly, has PETA issued a statement about the boiled frog?
This has to be a stunt.. are we sure it wasn't just cool water with some dry ice in it?
Comment by 
Raine on 09/25/2009 13:42:58
Raine on 09/25/2009 13:42:58
Th question isn't whether or not he killed a frog -- or poisoned Nancy Pelosi -- it was the actions.
and the real question -- the ultimate question, did his actions kill a census worker?
and the real question -- the ultimate question, did his actions kill a census worker?
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 13:43:50
Good morning everyone!
Raine on 09/25/2009 13:43:50
Good morning everyone!
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 13:53:17
Raine on 09/25/2009 13:53:17
From CNN
The feds are still involved -- and the story is changing fast... I smell
The word “fed” was scrawled on the body of a census worker in Kentucky whose corpse was found nearly two weeks ago, a coroner said Friday.
Clay County Coroner Jim Trosper told CNN that “fed” was written on the body of William E. Sparkman Jr., 51, in felt tip pen.
He was found with a rope around his neck near a cemetery in Clay County, in southeastern Kentucky, state police said. The rope was tied to a tree, but his body was touching the ground, authorities said.
The feds are still involved -- and the story is changing fast... I smell
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/25/2009 14:01:02
m-hadley on 09/25/2009 14:01:02
Mornin' Everybodee - Happee Fridee indeed 
Have a great one! BTB, another excellent post, Ms. Raine.
Cheers,
mfaye
Have a great one! BTB, another excellent post, Ms. Raine.
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 14:20:54
Raine on 09/25/2009 14:20:54
over 500 amendments -- they are streaming things on the 'span right now. Been voting on them since last nite.
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 14:24:19
Raine on 09/25/2009 14:24:19
The asshattery hurts. Ensign a 10ther says that is they think a law is unconstitutional they should be allowed to break the law. 
What a circle jerk!
What a circle jerk!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/25/2009 14:58:02
wickedpam on 09/25/2009 14:58:02
Comment by 
BobR on 09/25/2009 15:24:55
ahem???
BobR on 09/25/2009 15:24:55
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybodee - Happee Fridee indeed
Have a great one! BTB, another excellent post, Ms. Raine.
Cheers,
mfaye
ahem???
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 15:24:59
Raine on 09/25/2009 15:24:59
Gumby meets Shawn of the Dead. This is for the Zombie lovers out there.
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 15:26:21
And yet they bring a lawsuit in MA because the Gov wants Kirk to start immediately...
BobR on 09/25/2009 15:26:21
Quote by Raine:
The asshattery hurts. Ensign a 10ther says that is they think a law is unconstitutional they should be allowed to break the law.
What a circle jerk!
And yet they bring a lawsuit in MA because the Gov wants Kirk to start immediately...
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 15:27:28
BobR on 09/25/2009 15:27:28
Apparently, it was fake frog.
That does not change the tone of the blog one bit - the desired end result was the same.
That does not change the tone of the blog one bit - the desired end result was the same.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/25/2009 15:34:02
wickedpam on 09/25/2009 15:34:02
Quote by Raine:
Gumby meets Shawn of the Dead. This is for the Zombie lovers out there.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/25/2009 15:58:36
Some jackass client who's three months past due on his account just had the nerve tell me how my company should operate, and how to do my job when he can't even handle his. And on top of it he insulted my intelligence.
My laughter at his hypocrisy, for the moment, outweighs my rage for having my ego bruised.
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 15:58:36
Some jackass client who's three months past due on his account just had the nerve tell me how my company should operate, and how to do my job when he can't even handle his. And on top of it he insulted my intelligence.
My laughter at his hypocrisy, for the moment, outweighs my rage for having my ego bruised.
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 15:59:21
BobR on 09/25/2009 15:59:21
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 16:00:32
Raine on 09/25/2009 16:00:32
Comment by 
Random on 09/25/2009 16:49:55
Random on 09/25/2009 16:49:55
*humming to himself (Spider-Random)*
*sips tea*
Hello everyone.
*starts reading newspaper*
*sips tea*
Hello everyone.
*starts reading newspaper*
Comment by Scoopster on 09/25/2009 17:00:48
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 17:00:48
Random!
We need a bromance emote heh..
We need a bromance emote heh..
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 17:02:24
Random on 09/25/2009 17:02:24
...Random is scared of the bromance...
But thanks for the love anyway...
But thanks for the love anyway...
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/25/2009 17:06:14
It's the same ole, same ole....wRight wing loons think death is funny...even the death of a frog.
They're asshats.
starling310 on 09/25/2009 17:06:14
Quote by BobR:
Apparently, it was fake frog.
That does not change the tone of the blog one bit - the desired end result was the same.
It's the same ole, same ole....wRight wing loons think death is funny...even the death of a frog.
They're asshats.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 17:14:51
Something to think about.
If the frog was fake, what was the point?
Because up until the moment he tossed it in, he was going on about how we should be frogs and jump out of the boiling water Obama is shoving down our throats.
Random on 09/25/2009 17:14:51
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:
Apparently, it was fake frog.
That does not change the tone of the blog one bit - the desired end result was the same.
It's the same ole, same ole....wRight wing loons think death is funny...even the death of a frog.
They're asshats.
Something to think about.
If the frog was fake, what was the point?
Because up until the moment he tossed it in, he was going on about how we should be frogs and jump out of the boiling water Obama is shoving down our throats.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/25/2009 17:52:25
wickedpam on 09/25/2009 17:52:25
Random and Star visit all in one week!
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 17:58:16
Raine on 09/25/2009 17:58:16
OK this guy on Thom is an idiot.
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 18:01:24
Raine on 09/25/2009 18:01:24
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 18:15:05
BobR on 09/25/2009 18:15:05
I added an edit to the blog. Apparently, not only was the frog fake, he said so at the end of the segment (paraphrase: "Dems are fake, Reps are fake, and the frog was fake"). As I mentioned in the edit, I don't think that changes the conclusion drawn in the blog.
However, it doesn't help us when someone deliberately edits the video to deceive us into thinking the situation was worse than it was. That makes us look dishonest and willing to discredit Beck at any cost. This actually helps Beck.
Very disappointing. I hate getting punked.
However, it doesn't help us when someone deliberately edits the video to deceive us into thinking the situation was worse than it was. That makes us look dishonest and willing to discredit Beck at any cost. This actually helps Beck.
Very disappointing. I hate getting punked.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:04:44
Raine, nobody loves zombies. One needs to know the enemy, their methods, strengths and weaknesses. I know Mala has a plan, I have one, do you and Bob have one for the coming zombpacaylpse?
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:04:44
Quote by Raine:
Gumby meets Shawn of the Dead. This is for the Zombie lovers out there.
Raine, nobody loves zombies. One needs to know the enemy, their methods, strengths and weaknesses. I know Mala has a plan, I have one, do you and Bob have one for the coming zombpacaylpse?
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 19:09:01
It's FRIDAY ya bastahds!!!
Bounce em if got em!!!
Raine on 09/25/2009 19:09:01
Bounce em if got em!!!
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 19:09:35
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS...
BOUNCE!
BobR on 09/25/2009 19:09:35
BOUNCE!
Comment by TriSec on 09/25/2009 19:10:51
Getting ready for Cub Scout kickoff this evening!
TriSec on 09/25/2009 19:10:51
Getting ready for Cub Scout kickoff this evening!
Comment by TriSec on 09/25/2009 19:13:28
TriSec on 09/25/2009 19:13:28
Well, the air tanker war is back on.
Now correct me if I'm wrong....but isn't this for the UNITED STATES air force? Shouldn't Americans be building the damn things?
Now correct me if I'm wrong....but isn't this for the UNITED STATES air force? Shouldn't Americans be building the damn things?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:20:51
I think this is a no-brainer myself. The US Air Force buys American.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:20:51
Quote by TriSec:
Well, the air tanker war is back on.
Now correct me if I'm wrong....but isn't this for the UNITED STATES air force? Shouldn't Americans be building the damn things?
I think this is a no-brainer myself. The US Air Force buys American.
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 19:36:04
Anyone listening to Randi?
Raine on 09/25/2009 19:36:04
Anyone listening to Randi?
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 19:41:23
Raine on 09/25/2009 19:41:23
For those that keep saying that teachers are indoctrinating Children to Obama Socialistic policies:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:54:11
Ack! Jesus Camp. Thems some scary people. Loved the almost constant speaking in tongues though. Note to to Pentecostals, speaking in tongues is not spouting gibberish that the Holy Spirit compels you to, it is the ability to speak in and understand other languages by the Grace of the Holy Spirit. Look it up morons.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 19:54:11
Quote by Raine:
For those that keep saying that teachers are indoctrinating Children to Obama Socialistic policies:
Ack! Jesus Camp. Thems some scary people. Loved the almost constant speaking in tongues though. Note to to Pentecostals, speaking in tongues is not spouting gibberish that the Holy Spirit compels you to, it is the ability to speak in and understand other languages by the Grace of the Holy Spirit. Look it up morons.
Comment by BobR on 09/25/2009 20:15:03
Fixity!
BobR on 09/25/2009 20:15:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Ack! Jesus Camp. Thems some scary people. Loved the almost constant speaking in tongues though. Note to to Pentecostals, speaking in tongues is not spouting gibberish that the Holy Spirit compels you to, it is the ability to speak in and understand other languages by the Grace of the Holy Spirit. Look it up morans.
Fixity!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:17:20
Why Bobber, how could I forget! Thanks for the fixity.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:17:20
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Ack! Jesus Camp. Thems some scary people. Loved the almost constant speaking in tongues though. Note to to Pentecostals, speaking in tongues is not spouting gibberish that the Holy Spirit compels you to, it is the ability to speak in and understand other languages by the Grace of the Holy Spirit. Look it up morans.
Fixity!
Why Bobber, how could I forget! Thanks for the fixity.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:18:44
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:18:44
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:47:17
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 20:47:17
I was watching the TV mosheen awaiting the Prez's presser. MSNBC, first talking head was Pat Buchan..(click)
Comment by Raine on 09/25/2009 21:50:45
And yet -- the FBI is still involved -- Like I said earlier the KY police are starting to make the issues look a lot more gray -- I smell I really do.
First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
Raine on 09/25/2009 21:50:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
I really do. First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 22:10:23
Wasn't it reported that his feet were on the ground?
Random on 09/25/2009 22:10:23
Quote by Raine:And yet -- the FBI is still involved -- Like I said earlier the KY police are starting to make the issues look a lot more gray -- I smellQuote by Mondobubba:
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
Wasn't it reported that his feet were on the ground?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 22:13:37
In defense of LE, when they find a body, until the coronor makes find of cause of death, they don't rule out anything, so they sorta have to say, could be murder, suicide or accidental death. Which is pretty stupid, but that is the way they roll. So put away the foil hat.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 22:13:37
Quote by Raine:And yet -- the FBI is still involved -- Like I said earlier the KY police are starting to make the issues look a lot more gray -- I smellQuote by Mondobubba:
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
In defense of LE, when they find a body, until the coronor makes find of cause of death, they don't rule out anything, so they sorta have to say, could be murder, suicide or accidental death. Which is pretty stupid, but that is the way they roll. So put away the foil hat.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 22:41:04
True, even for obvious suicides most trained Professionals treat it as a murder until proof (usually a coroners report) says suicide.
Random on 09/25/2009 22:41:04
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:And yet -- the FBI is still involved -- Like I said earlier the KY police are starting to make the issues look a lot more gray -- I smellQuote by Mondobubba:
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
In defense of LE, when they find a body, until the coronor makes find of cause of death, they don't rule out anything, so they sorta have to say, could be murder, suicide or accidental death. Which is pretty stupid, but that is the way they roll. So put away the foil hat.
True, even for obvious suicides most trained Professionals treat it as a murder until proof (usually a coroners report) says suicide.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 22:59:11
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 22:59:11
Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 23:05:02
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
Random on 09/25/2009 23:05:02
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/25/2009 23:11:15
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
Scoopster on 09/25/2009 23:11:15
Quote by Raine:And yet -- the FBI is still involved -- Like I said earlier the KY police are starting to make the issues look a lot more gray -- I smellQuote by Mondobubba:
The KY state police are not ruling out suicide in census worker's death. Just reported on MSNBC. Yeah sure he wrote "fed" on his own chest.
First they say cemetary then national forest then cemetary they say the computer was in the truck, then they say it wasn't -- He was found on 9/12 and they still haven't released the body for burial -- suicide? I don't believe it for a minute.
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 23:21:59
No. Murder isn't a fed crime, but a crime commited on Fed land, or if it being considered a hate crime of violation of civil right, FBI.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 23:21:59
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
No. Murder isn't a fed crime, but a crime commited on Fed land, or if it being considered a hate crime of violation of civil right, FBI.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 23:37:35
Hm...good point. But I'd be surprised if the FBI didn't have a finger into the pie, even if it is unofficial, whenever a federal employee is murdered.
and I'm sure if an FBI agent is offed the FBI would be a part of it.
Of course, my knowledge of the FBI is based of Numb3rs, which seems to say that the FBI investigates just about every murder in the LA area.
Random on 09/25/2009 23:37:35
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
No. Murder isn't a fed crime, but a crime commited on Fed land, or if it being considered a hate crime of violation of civil right, FBI.
Hm...good point. But I'd be surprised if the FBI didn't have a finger into the pie, even if it is unofficial, whenever a federal employee is murdered.
and I'm sure if an FBI agent is offed the FBI would be a part of it.
Of course, my knowledge of the FBI is based of Numb3rs, which seems to say that the FBI investigates just about every murder in the LA area.
Comment by Random on 09/25/2009 23:40:03
Random on 09/25/2009 23:40:03
I'll be honest...
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 23:41:18
Ah there's the rub! Everybody thinks things move really fast in a death investigation thanks to TV. Body found on 9/12, no COD yet. Not surprising.
Mondobubba on 09/25/2009 23:41:18
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
No. Murder isn't a fed crime, but a crime commited on Fed land, or if it being considered a hate crime of violation of civil right, FBI.
Hm...good point. But I'd be surprised if the FBI didn't have a finger into the pie, even if it is unofficial, whenever a federal employee is murdered.
and I'm sure if an FBI agent is offed the FBI would be a part of it.
Of course, my knowledge of the FBI is based of Numb3rs, which seems to say that the FBI investigates just about every murder in the LA area.
Ah there's the rub! Everybody thinks things move really fast in a death investigation thanks to TV. Body found on 9/12, no COD yet. Not surprising.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/26/2009 00:02:05
I could only take 3 1/2 minutes of the "drunken idiot redneck"
trojanrabbit on 09/26/2009 00:02:05
Quote by Random:
I'll be honest...
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
I could only take 3 1/2 minutes of the "drunken idiot redneck"
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 00:05:29
I was joking about the Numb3rs thing.
I know it takes awhile.
My only point is the FBI would have a finger in the pie on a murder of a Federal Employee. Even if it's at the lowest level of just being kept in the loop.
Random on 09/26/2009 00:05:29
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Oh, Raine, they found the guy on Federal land, that is why the FBI is there.
wouldn't the FBI be involved anyway because he's a federal employee?
No. Murder isn't a fed crime, but a crime commited on Fed land, or if it being considered a hate crime of violation of civil right, FBI.
Hm...good point. But I'd be surprised if the FBI didn't have a finger into the pie, even if it is unofficial, whenever a federal employee is murdered.
and I'm sure if an FBI agent is offed the FBI would be a part of it.
Of course, my knowledge of the FBI is based of Numb3rs, which seems to say that the FBI investigates just about every murder in the LA area.
Ah there's the rub! Everybody thinks things move really fast in a death investigation thanks to TV. Body found on 9/12, no COD yet. Not surprising.
I was joking about the Numb3rs thing.
I know it takes awhile.
My only point is the FBI would have a finger in the pie on a murder of a Federal Employee. Even if it's at the lowest level of just being kept in the loop.
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 00:06:53
Learn anything?
Cause reading some of the comments on Wonkette, and when some can't go 30 seconds you know it's bad. Which means I don't dear watch it.
Random on 09/26/2009 00:06:53
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I'll be honest...
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
I could only take 3 1/2 minutes of the "drunken idiot redneck"
Learn anything?
Cause reading some of the comments on Wonkette, and when some can't go 30 seconds you know it's bad. Which means I don't dear watch it.
Comment by 
clintster on 09/26/2009 00:11:53
He's "fuckin' pissed off" that there's allegedly an upcoming ban on "flavored dip" (snuff) "That's fuckin' gay.", says the YouTuber, named skoalrebel. Apparently, he misunderstood a new FDA ban on flavored cigarettes.
So, to clarify, FTFA:
Peach blunts=still okay
"Flavored dip"=hilariously okay
Clove cigarettes=pretentious AND illegal
Newports=exempted and swag
clintster on 09/26/2009 00:11:53
Quote by Random:
I'll be honest...
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
He's "fuckin' pissed off" that there's allegedly an upcoming ban on "flavored dip" (snuff) "That's fuckin' gay.", says the YouTuber, named skoalrebel. Apparently, he misunderstood a new FDA ban on flavored cigarettes.
So, to clarify, FTFA:
Peach blunts=still okay
"Flavored dip"=hilariously okay
Clove cigarettes=pretentious AND illegal
Newports=exempted and swag
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 00:18:31
thank you brave Clinster.
Random on 09/26/2009 00:18:31
Quote by clintster:Quote by Random:
I'll be honest...
I want to know what this is about, but I'm afraid to look...so any brave 4Fers, please inform random.
He's "fuckin' pissed off" that there's allegedly an upcoming ban on "flavored dip" (snuff) "That's fuckin' gay.", says the YouTuber, named skoalrebel. Apparently, he misunderstood a new FDA ban on flavored cigarettes.
So, to clarify, FTFA:
Peach blunts=still okay
"Flavored dip"=hilariously okay
Clove cigarettes=pretentious AND illegal
Newports=exempted and swag
thank you brave Clinster.
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 00:30:09
Random on 09/26/2009 00:30:09
apparently the COD has been determined.
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 01:00:21
Random on 09/26/2009 01:00:21
Okay...the SNL thing was pretty funny.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/26/2009 01:27:46
The Obama on many cable shows thingy?
Mondobubba on 09/26/2009 01:27:46
Quote by Random:
Okay...the SNL thing was pretty funny.
The Obama on many cable shows thingy?
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 01:40:12
yeah, that guy seems to be getting better at doing Obama.
And the Beck bit, could have easily been form his show...except the skit made more sense.
Random on 09/26/2009 01:40:12
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Okay...the SNL thing was pretty funny.
The Obama on many cable shows thingy?
yeah, that guy seems to be getting better at doing Obama.
And the Beck bit, could have easily been form his show...except the skit made more sense.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/26/2009 01:41:04
The Obama is becoming spot on. Beck is such a nut he is easy to do.
Mondobubba on 09/26/2009 01:41:04
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Okay...the SNL thing was pretty funny.
The Obama on many cable shows thingy?
yeah, that guy seems to be getting better at doing Obama.
And the Beck bit, could have easily been form his show...except the skit made more sense.
The Obama is becoming spot on. Beck is such a nut he is easy to do.
Comment by Random on 09/26/2009 01:50:42
Yeah, the food network guy was pretty funny. "I'll just let myself out"
Course...what I wouldn't have given for a more obvious reference to Twillight with the vampire part.
Random on 09/26/2009 01:50:42
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Okay...the SNL thing was pretty funny.
The Obama on many cable shows thingy?
yeah, that guy seems to be getting better at doing Obama.
And the Beck bit, could have easily been form his show...except the skit made more sense.
The Obama is becoming spot on. Beck is such a nut he is easy to do.
Yeah, the food network guy was pretty funny. "I'll just let myself out"
Course...what I wouldn't have given for a more obvious reference to Twillight with the vampire part.
Comment by TriSec on 09/26/2009 02:01:28
I hate my life.
TriSec on 09/26/2009 02:01:28
I hate my life.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/26/2009 02:26:43
What'sa matter, Tri
livingonli on 09/26/2009 02:26:43
Quote by TriSec:
I hate my life.
What'sa matter, Tri
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/26/2009 16:24:15
velveeta jones on 09/26/2009 16:24:15
Sorry I'm late to this blog party. I will take exception with one thing on your post BobR: Beck is not in recovery. Recovery implies that one has some sort of program (be it AA or Religion or whatever) that means you do not do the things that cause you to drink. Things like: Lie, gossip, cheat, bully, to name a few, and, that you DO do things that keep you focused on your recovery like: Honesty and open mindedness. So, you can see where I think Beck is not telling us the truth.