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I'm pretty sure the Porn isn't what caused the economy to crash. Sorry - Not pleased about it, but this is not the outrage that we should be having.



It's a distraction.

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Hmmm- I have to wonder if I'm blocked or on if I'm now on some kinda twitter watchlist since I just told Boner (or most likely a staffer) to sit down and cross his legs on the whole healthcare thing

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Hmm.. good point!

Dick Armey, president of Tea Party organizer FreedomWorks, acknowledged in an interview that his group has yet to make its mark on the debate.



“We haven’t had a chance to study it,” Armey said. “We have a general skepticism that [Democrats] wouldn’t know how to regulate the financial industry.”



Karen Hoffman, founder of the conservative group DC Works for US, attributed the lack of interest primarily to the Tea Partiers’ continued involvement in health care. For Congress, the debate over the Affordable Care Act ended with its passage, but the Tea Party movement is still organizing long-shot campaigns to repeal the law, challenge it in court, and undermine its provisions on a state level.

“It’s almost like the whole grassroots movement can’t get loose of it,” Hoffman said. “Because of the repeal issue, the battle isn’t over. The Tea Party movement is not moving on.”



Phillip Dennis, founder of the Dallas Tea Party and state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, said he was largely unaware of the finance legislation, but expected it to stir a reaction eventually.



“I think it will become more on the radar as it becomes closer to a vote,” he said. “I don’t think a lot of people understand it yet and the details are just starting to come out.”

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Hmm.. good point!

Here's why.

Dick Armey, president of Tea Party organizer FreedomWorks, acknowledged in an interview that his group has yet to make its mark on the debate.



“We haven’t had a chance to study it,” Armey said. “We have a general skepticism that [Democrats] wouldn’t know how to regulate the financial industry.”



Karen Hoffman, founder of the conservative group DC Works for US, attributed the lack of interest primarily to the Tea Partiers’ continued involvement in health care. For Congress, the debate over the Affordable Care Act ended with its passage, but the Tea Party movement is still organizing long-shot campaigns to repeal the law, challenge it in court, and undermine its provisions on a state level.

“It’s almost like the whole grassroots movement can’t get loose of it,” Hoffman said. “Because of the repeal issue, the battle isn’t over. The Tea Party movement is not moving on.”



Phillip Dennis, founder of the Dallas Tea Party and state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, said he was largely unaware of the finance legislation, but expected it to stir a reaction eventually.



“I think it will become more on the radar as it becomes closer to a vote,” he said. “I don’t think a lot of people understand it yet and the details are just starting to come out.”

TRanslation: they haven't gotten the marching orders yet. You wait -- it's coming.

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Glenn beck would have us go back to this very lovely part of our history:

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AND like clockwork -- the Teabaggers got the marching orders.... complete with Freedom works/Koch industry written email....

The teabagger movement by the 1% for the 1%. Or as Bush called them the haves and have mores.

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AND like clockwork -- the Teabaggers got the marching orders.... complete with Freedom works/Koch industry written email....

The teabagger movement by the 1% for the 1%. Or as Bush called them the haves and have mores.

I don't necessarily think a lot of them are the "haves"...

Troubling new data show there are an average of 950 suicide attempts each month by veterans who are receiving some type of treatment from the Veterans Affairs Department.



Seven percent of the attempts are successful, and 11 percent of those who don’t succeed on the first attempt try again within nine months.



The numbers, which come at a time when VA is strengthening its suicide prevention programs, show about 18 veteran suicides a day, about five by veterans who are receiving VA care.



Access to care appears to be a key factor, officials said, noting that once a veteran is inside the VA care program, screening programs are in place to identify those with problems, and special efforts are made to track those considered at high risk, such as monitoring whether they are keeping appointments.



A key part of the new data shows the suicide rate is lower for veterans aged 18 to 29 who are using VA health care services than those who are not. That leads VA officials to believe that about 250 lives have been saved each year as a result of VA treatment.



VA’s suicide hotline has been receiving about 10,000 calls a month from current and former service members. The number is 1-800-273-8255. Service members and veterans should push 1 for veterans’ services.



Dr. Janet Kemp, VA’s national suicide prevention coordinator, credits the hotline with rescuing 7,000 veterans who were in the act of suicide — in addition to referrals, counseling and other help.



Suicide attempts by Iraq and Afghanistan veterans remains a key area of concern. In fiscal 2009, which ended Sept. 30, there were 1,621 suicide attempts by men and 247 by women who served in Iraq or Afghanistan, with 94 men and four women dying.



In general, VA officials said, women attempt suicide more often, but men are more likely to succeed in the attempt, mainly because women use less lethal and less violent means while men are more likely to use firearms.